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Speaker 1: back here for episode number thirty of the Mets Up podcast.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm your co host draftneck Mark here with

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Speaker 1: James Sheiano. Jeter had no range talking about the series

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Speaker 1: that just wrapped up earlier tonight against the Milwaukee Brewers.

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Speaker 1: Mets took two of three in the series. Could have

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Speaker 1: very been a sweep, but as we know, the Mets

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Speaker 1: have an inability to close out series and get sweeps.

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Speaker 1: Funny enough with this episode, we actually went like five

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Speaker 1: minutes before realizing that James didn't hit the record button.

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Speaker 1: So hey, listen, second time, third time is the charm?

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is? Here, we got the intro. We're going.

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Speaker 1: James just literally caught a mosquito live on Zoom while

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Speaker 1: we're watching this, So if you're on the YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: and watching, you're gonna see James actually catch a mosquito.

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Speaker 1: Like mister Miagi, I can't think of a better way

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Speaker 1: to lead you in here. How you doing, Mike guy?

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Speaker 1: You just called him mosquito.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great besides the fact it just ruined like

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Speaker 2: a pristine start of the episode, though, I'm glad I

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Speaker 2: caught it when I did. But you know what, catching

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Speaker 2: them with you they got me right back on track.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: It could have been catastrophic, but catching a Mosquito. Mets

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Speaker 1: still win the series against one of the hottest teams

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Speaker 1: in baseball. We beat two aces, two of the better

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Speaker 1: pictures in baseball this season. This team has kind of

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Speaker 1: changed a little bit. It's a little depressed in Game three,

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Speaker 1: but a really, really good series win.

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Speaker 2: I think, nonetheless, definitely someone had the take on Twitter

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Speaker 2: that if we would just flipped this series and gotten

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Speaker 2: Woodrifrom Corbyn Burns back to back games to win, Mets

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Speaker 2: fans would have been like singing our praises been a

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Speaker 2: world Series parade coming down after this series so well,

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Speaker 2: perspective will positively little optimism. I think we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling really good. There's still a few things to

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Speaker 1: the most part, things are good in New York Mets Land.

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Speaker 1: I don't have many complaints. We beat the Brewers, literally,

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Speaker 1: one of the hottest teams coming into the series. I

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Speaker 1: we beat their two best pitchers. So again, the narrative

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Game one here. That was you know,

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Speaker 2: and Mets couldn't muster up anything against Woodroff. And I

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Speaker 3: Like Brandon Woodriff anymore. He feels like a throwback to me.

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Speaker 2: He's got like big shoulders, big beard, like thighs.

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Speaker 1: He's a dude who gets big from lifting haybales and

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Speaker 1: He was literally perfect against us. I had to put

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Speaker 2: out the jinxing Woodriff tweet as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wa. We both knew that we had to

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Speaker 3: Actually, this office wasn't gonna get going without us.

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Speaker 1: No, of course, not everyone knows that the Mess Up

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Speaker 1: Podcast boys have a direct impact on the performance by

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Speaker 1: the New York Mets on the field. Course, absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: let's talk about what happened here. Woodrof first time through

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Speaker 2: The Lindor bunting stuff is becoming weird, Like there were

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Speaker 2: he's sepecifically like I told him on the one him

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a hot take here, and I don't

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Speaker 1: he's not there to bunt. He's getting paid three hundred

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Speaker 1: he's been hitting well. The bunt feels like almost a

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Speaker 1: But this is something that is now happening multiple times

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Speaker 1: on multiple occasions where Francisco Lindor is choosing to bunt

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Speaker 2: Dude, absolutely, And you mentioned specifically that Lindor has been

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Speaker 2: He got a hit and he drew two walks.

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Speaker 2: So for him to take the bat out of his

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Speaker 2: Why are we giving Brandon woodrofin out. He's good enough

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Speaker 2: But you almost are telling everyone you're content was scoring

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Speaker 2: that looks kind of foolish tonight because we saw the

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Speaker 2: twenty eight minutes. I think maybe it's a confidence thing

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Speaker 2: with lindor maybe like I don't know how I'm supposed

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Speaker 2: to phrase this, but to the booze get to him

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Speaker 2: living in a world where Francisco Indoor is the second

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Speaker 2: most sacrifice bunch in all baseball, behind only David Fletcher.

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Speaker 1: And that's like David Fletcher, the meme and everything, But

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Speaker 1: he's not a good player.

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Speaker 2: No, David Dave Fletcher should be sacrificed bunting if he's

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Speaker 1: Is insane because Joe Madden doesn't understand how baseball works anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dave Joe Madden's whole thing is like, you're struggling,

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Speaker 3: Underrated. Really, Holy crap, this guy's good, really really good.

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Speaker 1: Damn He's picked up some really really big outs for us,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason ever throw him pitch low and the

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Speaker 1: low in the zone, and luckily for us, Pete took advantage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was nice to see Confordo actually get

436
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Speaker 2: a hit and provide some insurance. It was even though

437
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,480
Speaker 2: he's shown no signs of life besides that bat and

438
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Speaker 2: the rest of the series.

439
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Confordo is I don't know like I think or uh.

440
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Speaker 1: Gary mentioned it on the broadcast today that Brandon Nemo

441
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Speaker 1: told the Mets the reason it took him so long

442
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 1: to come back was that he told the Mets, I'm

443
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 1: not ready yet, Like I feel physically fine, but my

444
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,399
Speaker 1: baseball like game readiness is not there yet. He waited,

445
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,639
Speaker 1: and what do you know, Brandon Neimo has jumped right

446
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 1: back into this lineup as one of the best offensive

447
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Speaker 1: players on the team, where Michael Conforida, who maybe got

448
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 1: rushed back a.

449
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,359
Speaker 3: Little McNeil would put him in that McNeil, who.

450
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Speaker 1: Maybe got rushed back a little bit, haven't yet clicked

451
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Speaker 1: like they should be.

452
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Speaker 2: That's a good point, honestly, that's probably is what is

453
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Speaker 2: happening here, and that's a shame. But again, at least

454
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Speaker 2: he came through here, came through here.

455
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Speaker 1: At least, Yeah, he came through for us, And luckily

456
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Speaker 1: for us, they left in Woodroff just a little too long,

457
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Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. I thought that they would

458
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Speaker 1: have pulled him sooner, especially.

459
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Speaker 2: Because like while he was mowing us down, like I

460
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 2: mentioned before, there were no whifs happening. It's one of

461
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Speaker 2: his low whiff games of the entire season. He had

462
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Speaker 2: nine whiffs the whole game. Only two other starts this

463
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Speaker 2: year he had that many or fewer, and the Mets

464
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 2: as a team only had six strike as the entire game.

465
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Speaker 2: That's so rare for not only the Mets but any

466
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Speaker 2: team in baseball. So it did feel like a matter

467
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Speaker 2: of I don't want to say his a maunt of times,

468
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,400
Speaker 2: I didn't think we were going to get to him,

469
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Speaker 2: just because I'm so negative about this offense after watching

470
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Speaker 2: it this year. But it was nice to see the

471
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Speaker 2: ball hit the ground a few times and it happened.

472
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Speaker 1: It was and we even like you know, started to

473
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Speaker 1: hit the ball a little bit in the eighth Grante

474
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't off Woodruff. Bruce smacking around a little bit

475
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 1: there too, which was nice to see. Although Pete big

476
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 1: double play because Pete loves a good hard ground ball

477
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Speaker 1: sometimes right to the shortstop, and you know it's gonna

478
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 1: happen with Pete, that's what you get.

479
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Speaker 3: Catch it in the inning before I'm okay with it, Yeah, exactly.

480
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 1: Overall, though, Mets big win. This was a game that

481
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Speaker 1: you thought at the beginning was going to be just

482
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Speaker 1: a loss, and the Mets ended up winning. Now, there

483
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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a hysteria in the ninth

484
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Speaker 1: inning as Edwin Diaz came in and made it really

485
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Speaker 1: really interesting. Little sweaty I was not feeling comfortable with this.

486
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Speaker 1: He came in and immediately struggled, and.

487
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Speaker 2: I think this has been a habit of dwin, not

488
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Speaker 2: including the second game of Wednesday's double head, but the

489
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Speaker 2: few addings before where he just doesn't have this peak control.

490
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Speaker 3: Immediately. I think, didn't he walk the first guy or

491
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Speaker 3: hit a bather?

492
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Speaker 1: I think he hit a guy, walked a guy like.

493
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Speaker 1: It was a very very sloppy inning. He got a

494
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: head on like Tyrone Taylor, I think, and ended up

495
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 1: walking him.

496
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Speaker 3: Taylor sick name. It's crazy.

497
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Speaker 1: It's just a very very strong name. Unfortunately playwise, he's okay.

498
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: It's fine, strong name. But Diaz in the past has

499
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: always been a guy that wants to throw a lot too,

500
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Speaker 1: and he was coming off five days rest, so it

501
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 1: did seem like he just needed a little bit of

502
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: time to get back into the rhythm of things. He

503
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Speaker 1: got it done, though, he did it. It was real interesting,

504
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: but he got it done.

505
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Speaker 2: It worked, like thank god. It wasn't a one rough game.

506
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: Could that insurance back and forth, there was everything, but

507
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: it worked.

508
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Speaker 3: It happened.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, the

510
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: Mets won this one. As much as Edwin made us uncomfortable,

511
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Speaker 1: and we got flashbacks to old Edwin a little bit

512
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Speaker 1: of like, oh here we go again. Is this it? No,

513
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 1: he got it done, which leads is not a game too.

514
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Speaker 1: Feeling good off the Brandon Woodruff win where we got

515
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Speaker 1: our weird doubleheader that let's just go through what happened

516
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: yesterday because me James and our friend Ernie Big Jonathan

517
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Speaker 1: VR Fan of course, we were supposed to be going

518
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Speaker 1: to the Mets Brewers game on was that it was

519
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Speaker 1: Tuesday on Tuesday, and we hopped in an uber. Within

520
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: five seconds, we start looking at Twitter like there's gonna

521
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: be a delace. So we're like, hey, Uber, we're done here.

522
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 1: You gotta drop us off. So luckily he let us out.

523
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Speaker 3: We got out of the red light like three blocks

524
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Speaker 3: away from where he picked us up.

525
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like literally just like did like a little half circle.

526
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Speaker 1: And then we were around the corner about yeah, about

527
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Speaker 1: to get on the highway, and we're like, all right,

528
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the bar. We're gonna hang out,

529
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Speaker 1: the rain's gonna blow over. We're looking at like a

530
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Speaker 1: nine to ten o'clock start. Somewhere in that time, we

531
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Speaker 1: got to the bar, we're having some drinks, played a

532
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Speaker 1: little trivia. We didn't think we're gonna finish the game

533
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Speaker 1: of trivia, but we ended up doing it fifth out

534
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Speaker 1: of ninth buzz Light Year. We did okay, first time ever,

535
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Speaker 1: but we were so amped to be like one of

536
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Speaker 1: like two to three hundred people in the stadium because

537
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: the Mets and everybody on Twitter was like, Mets are

538
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Speaker 1: determined to get this game, and they want to ground

539
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: the pitch. They're gonna do it whatever it takes. And

540
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 1: then at like nine thirty, they were like, no, we

541
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Speaker 1: can't play, and it ended up being the right move

542
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: because it just continued to like monsoon and nor'easter over here,

543
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: the wind, the rain, it was unbelievable. But boy was

544
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Speaker 1: that a letdown, which then led into our doubleheader of today.

545
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Speaker 2: So close to having a legendary Tuesday night. It turned

546
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Speaker 2: out to be an okay Tuesday, but it was so

547
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 2: close to being one of those crazy things that would

548
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: have happened in Mets history that we could have talked

549
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: about forever.

550
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: And like being in Queens, we have like the affordability

551
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: to be like it's ten minutes to get to City Field,

552
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: like we can wait around literally all night and head

553
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: over in ten minutes. It's not that big of a deal.

554
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: Almost almost happened. We'll get one at some point, I'm

555
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: sure of it. I'm determined to get a ray now,

556
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: ten o'clock start that I'm at. But Game two got

557
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Speaker 1: moved to today of course Wednesday where we got the

558
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: double header, so we got two seven inning games. Corbyn

559
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Speaker 1: Burns now going up against Jake but with de Gram

560
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: a lot different than you know, the ace that is

561
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Speaker 1: Brett Anderson going up against a Gram.

562
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Speaker 3: And this switch up scared you a lot, scared.

563
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Speaker 1: Me a lot because I was like, oh, hey, that's

564
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game to win because Corbyn Burns,

565
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: as we said with Woodruff, is one of the better

566
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Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball. The dude had fifty eight strikeouts without

567
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Speaker 1: a walk to start the year. And that's not because

568
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, getting two or three strikeouts a

569
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: game and like he's just a control pitcher. No, he

570
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: just has nasty stuff and was dominating people. And he

571
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Speaker 1: kind of dominated the Mets a little bit to start.

572
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Speaker 1: I know, the first thing we got to run, but

573
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: it was the Mets weren't really hitting that well against

574
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Speaker 1: him early.

575
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Speaker 2: I mean I think that we should have gotten more

576
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 2: runs in that first setting between the double, the bloop

577
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: single and then Dom did he a single?

578
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 3: He woke.

579
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Speaker 1: Dom had the terrible at bat where he faked the sacks.

580
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he with one ship. Yeah, yeah, that's what happened.

581
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

582
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Speaker 2: But the fact that we were two batters into a

583
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Speaker 2: game where we were down by one run and had

584
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: to run off Corbyn Burns, I was like, oh, this

585
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: is great, We're gonna move off him, and we did not.

586
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: And there was no move no, And then yeah, Corden

587
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Burns went back to being Corbyen Burns for a little bit,

588
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: stimy the offense for a few and Jacob mgrom weird,

589
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: weird start for him. I mean, he was still awesome,

590
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: of course, because I don't think you're ever gonna see

591
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: this guy really be bad by any means or even Okay,

592
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: he gave up that weird home run to Luisa Riaske

593
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: the lead off the game, and then gave up the

594
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Speaker 1: home run to who who was it? Jase Oh freaking

595
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: Jace Peterson. That dude, Oh I hate Jase Peterson. That

596
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: guy goes back to killing the Mets from like twenty

597
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: eleven and twenty twelve, when he was like a young

598
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: up and coming Braves prospect that had no business being

599
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: anywhere on this on the field with the Mets, but

600
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Speaker 1: he hit that home run. He was still good to

601
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Speaker 1: Grom today, it was just again like he's a very

602
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: scheduled guy, as we've said in the past, and it

603
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: seems like whenever he is not exactly to have schedule,

604
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: there will be a rough patch. Albeit two batters, yeah,

605
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: literally two batters, but there's just like a little glimpse

606
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: of him being a human sometimes.

607
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is now the third consecutive start where

608
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: he seemed to just be like slightly off. Like you said,

609
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: like he's a schedule guy. He's very regimented. The fact

610
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Speaker 2: that he probably did prepare as if he was starting yesterday,

611
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: threw his full ballpen, stayed loose until about nine to

612
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Speaker 2: fifteen pm, and then had to turn around immediately start

613
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: the game at two o'clock today. I'm sure it threw

614
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: him off a little bit again for being so freaking regimented,

615
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: but he was still like dominant. When he became Doant dominant,

616
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Speaker 2: he didn't throw him win seventeen pitches in any inning today.

617
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Speaker 1: That's very good.

618
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Speaker 3: That's incredible. It did take him.

619
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Speaker 2: Four innings to reach like peak de gram, which was

620
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Speaker 2: like he didn't throw in one hundred miles an hour

621
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Speaker 2: without a round up until the fourth inning, and he

622
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Speaker 2: still only gave up four hits in seven innings. Of course,

623
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Speaker 2: two of those were solo home runs. We still only

624
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Speaker 2: gave four hits in seven innings, Like damn. Like, he's

625
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: so good. Even when he's not his best, he's by

626
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: far the best picture in baseball.

627
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Speaker 1: What's crazy is in between those two home runs, he

628
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: got every single batter out consecutive. I think it was

629
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Speaker 1: like thirteen in a row. Yeah, So, like he just

630
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense sometimes because even when he doesn't have it,

631
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: he's still so good, like you just said.

632
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: But the one troubling thing is that this is now

633
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: consecutive first innings where he hasn't found the fastball, which

634
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: is not that cool because we are like pretty close

635
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: to that stretch where he retired. I believe it was

636
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: thirty one consecutive batters in the first inning. So it

637
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: seems like something about his routine is maybe a little

638
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: bit off. There's some type there's some lack of comfortability

639
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: for Jacob de Gram early. Again, this could just be

640
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: the fact that today it was a day game after

641
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: what was like a late night or last weekend Atlanta.

642
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: He just the top of that Atlanta. Or there's just very dominant.

643
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: There's something maybe there, something to possibly keep an eye on.

644
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen. And again, as bad

645
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: as it felt, there was still ten strikeouts of seven innings,

646
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: but two runs and four us.

647
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: I know he still had a fantastic He already just

648
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: barely snuck up over one. Like the horror which he

649
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: was terrifying Jacob de Gram at one point, Oh.

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Speaker 1: What is one point?

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Speaker 3: He's one point o five?

652
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Speaker 1: What a what a bad year for Jacob da Gram.

653
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Speaker 3: Bob gives him turnover in his grave.

654
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even in his bad days, he's still so good

655
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Speaker 1: and gives us a chance to beat one of the

656
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Speaker 1: best pictures in bas I was.

657
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Speaker 2: Literally just about to say that, like Jacob de Gram,

658
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: we said struggle today a sports center with said Jacob

659
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: de Graam struggled and he went towed to toe with

660
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Speaker 2: one of the top ten pitchers I'd say in baseball

661
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: are goodly top seven, top five and bested him a

662
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: day with his best stuff. But again, Corpen Burton's also sick,

663
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: and it's just been pissing me off that whenever a

664
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: guy's like spin rates drop, everyone's like spider tech merchant,

665
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: sticky stuff merchant.

666
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Like this guy's terrible.

667
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: Now, Corpen Burns still is like a thirty two percent

668
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: k rate since the sticky stuff and enforcement has begun. Like, sure,

669
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: he may have gotten worse and spin rates may have dropped,

670
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: but this was always a crazy spin rate guy, going

671
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: as far back to like when he was in Double A.

672
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: That's how he was even noticed as a prospect, especially

673
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: early on the fantasy baseball circles. The guy is still good.

674
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: Guys can lose access to sticky stuff and still be

675
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: very good. There's no they're not all Garrett Cole like

676
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: with these guys know how to pitch on like Garrett Cole.

677
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: There's something there.

678
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Garrett Cole went from being like he should be good,

679
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: let's cheat, Oh he is good, back to being not

680
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: very good anymore because he can't cheat, like you said,

681
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: Corden Burns. From the day that he was found as

682
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: a baseball player. This is what intrigued the Brewers. The

683
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: spin rates stuff. It's getting to be a really old

684
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: narrative that every like, I hate it, I hate twitter

685
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: webs every single time a pitcher gives up a home

686
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: run or struggles sticky stuff, sticky stuff, sticky stuff merchant,

687
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: everyone's trying to be the next investigative reporter and break

688
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: the news of who's using sticky stuff. Guys, here's the

689
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: breaking news. Every pitcher used some sort of sticky stuff

690
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. The numbers show it. The spin

691
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: rates around the league, every team, every player down. There's

692
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: no one who's getting better spin rates since that things happened,

693
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: so like enough.

694
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: It's crazy how many people have discovered baseball savant in

695
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: the last month. Like their traffic must be off the

696
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: fucking charts right now.

697
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: But even then, people don't even know how to use it.

698
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Because let's just go back like this foreshadowing Miguel castro

699
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: struggle today in Game three, he seems to have lost it.

700
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: People were like, he's a sticky stuff merchant. His spin

701
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: rate has like dropped ever so slightly since the stuff No.

702
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I put up the tweet Miguel Castro, only one of

703
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: his pitches is slide. There actually would benefit from added

704
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: spin because this change up is not like the airbender

705
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: like Devin Williams. It's a standard change up. You want

706
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: to spin less, so it drops so as we say,

707
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: the bottom falls out, sameless sinker. You want a sinker

708
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: that act like a bowling ball, spin less and move

709
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: heavily down in the zone. And Miguel Castro slither spin

710
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: rate has stayed ever so level across all his outings.

711
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: He actually had one adding where all the pitches and

712
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: the spin ray and all of his pitches dropped sharply,

713
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: but clearly that was either something in the environment or

714
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: something wrong with the track man the stadium that night,

715
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: or just something wrong with Castro in general, because besides

716
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: it its level. Like you can look at the average

717
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: spin rate player breakdown on Savan every single day and

718
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, he's down eighteen RPMs like

719
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: he's using sticky stuff. No, you have to look at

720
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: the whole season as a whole, look at every individual outing,

721
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: see where these spin rates are and where they exist,

722
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: and actually be able to tell whether something has happened,

723
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: and even whether that's something has happened is meaningful. Spin

724
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: does not dictly correlated with success. Sometimes it helps, it'll

725
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: make your pitches move more if you're getting more active spin,

726
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: more gyro spin. We don't even know how that stuff works,

727
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: and I'm getting way too deep into the spin, but

728
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: it's just very annoying that everyone's twyter is like a

729
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: fucking detective.

730
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's it's intolerable, and I really hope it

731
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: stops soon. I'll beat the Garrett Cole is a sticky

732
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: stuff merchant with like a dead horse. I will continue

733
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: to do it just because it's great. It's it's that's

734
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: good comedy, that's funny. But like the like we're gonna

735
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: start calling sticky stuff out on guys like yen cd

736
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: as like come on now, wrong pipe. James's took a

737
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: sip of his water bottle and it went down the

738
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: wrong pipe. So YouTube viewers, you shall enjoy that. I'll

739
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: take over here as James is trying to remember how

740
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: to breathe. What was really cool about this game is

741
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: that the Mets beat Josh haters. The Mets beat Josh hater,

742
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: who's who's seemingly unbeatable. Twenty for twenty unsaved opportunities this

743
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: year hadn't given up a single home run and who

744
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: did the home run, but Jose friggin Piazza, who is

745
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: maybe one of the most Mets, maybe one of the

746
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: most clutch Mets that we've seen in recent history. He's

747
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: channeling his inner Wilmer Flores and just saying, I come

748
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: up in the ninth inning, I drive in a run

749
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: where I hit a home run, I get the big hit.

750
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: I think I saw a thing that was when Jose

751
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: Prazs's pinchhitting, He's hitting five to fifty five on the air.

752
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: That's disgusting.

753
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy that this Mets team has neither right handed

754
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: bat seemingly the whole season someone to hit lefties, and

755
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: it's become Jose Prazza, who's done it.

756
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Yes, like where.

757
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: That's so random and so just chaotic and just bullshit,

758
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: And it's come out of nowhere and it's working, and

759
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: we're going to ride this train until it falls off

760
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: the tracks.

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00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: Bench Mob Man, bench Mom. Bench Mob continues to do it.

762
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Speaker 1: And of course, if you want to buy any merch,

763
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Speaker 1: we dropped our first piece of merch, the bench Mob

764
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Speaker 1: t shirt. It's gonna be pin tweet on our Twitter,

765
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Speaker 1: so check it out if you want to get it.

766
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to we actually did have someone buy one.

767
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Speaker 1: I don't know where your name is. I lost it,

768
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Speaker 1: but thank you for buying it. I believe his name

769
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Speaker 1: was Nicholas. Thank you Nicholas for buyingla first official outside

770
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Speaker 1: of like my dad buying it, but that doesn't count.

771
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: And then Diaz comes in, Yeah, and it was not

772
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: a safe situation and he stunk.

773
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Yes, but I think that this narrative is being blown

774
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: out of proportion a little bit. I also think that

775
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: it's a different animal when it's an extra inning nonsafe

776
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: situation as opposed to a ninth to ning of a

777
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: Thai game, or when the Mets are losing, are up

778
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: four and this happens, because that does have happened, those

779
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 2: are more worrisome. But they've read multiple occasions this year

780
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: where Edwin Diaz came in the game in extra innings.

781
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: I specifically remember that game against the Marlins on a

782
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: Friday night where he just like strutted on the mound

783
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: and dominated and he got amped up. And today it

784
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: was going well at the beginning at first, very well, easy, easy,

785
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: like so easy, and then he just lost it.

786
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: Something just happened mechanics with him, his mechanics just got

787
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: super super sloppy. He almost got like a little too comfortable.

788
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: And then it seems like when Edwin Diaz like starts

789
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: to lose it, he's almost like, oh fuck, like what

790
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: do I do? How do I fix it? And like

791
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: overcompensates for stuff. As we saw when he drilled Christian

792
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: Yelich immediately right away, it was like, which like, oh

793
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: my god, I didn't We shouldn't have even seen him

794
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: in that ending. He had no business being up the plate.

795
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: It took literally walking everybody for Christian Yelllich to get

796
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: to the plate. You also gotta remember that you call

797
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: it another one. Why are there so many mosquitos in

798
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: your house this summer? That's too many mosquitos? You're too

799
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: is too many? I have zero in my part.

800
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: I guarantee you if I one in there, that's maybe

801
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: you're also you're also afraid of bugs, so.

802
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, terrified they're filthy creatures. But besides the fact that

803
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: James's mister Miyagi today, seemingly Diez also got an inherited

804
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: runner with the guy at second base, so like technically

805
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: he walked the bases loaded, yeah, instead of like walking

806
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: in a run.

807
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's those are semantics he did. It wasn't

808
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: under and run, but he did create a situation where

809
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: the Mets were losing. But we've also said time and

810
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: time again that in this extra anything, if you give

811
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: up one run, that is fine. Like that's that's kind

812
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: of like in the college footble over time allowing a

813
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: field goal rather than a touchdown. You know, yeah, like, sure,

814
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: you could allow no runs, and that's incredible. Edwin Diaz

815
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: should be able to do that because he is one

816
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: of the best relievers in baseball. Stuff is electric and

817
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: he has been dominant at times this season. But it's

818
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: not really a complete failure to allow run. It wasn't

819
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: failure the way he allowed the run. If Edwin Diaz

820
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: was given up a single to the first batter and

821
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: struck out the next three, I'll know if we would

822
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: feel the same way as him, just crumbling for a

823
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: three battist stretch.

824
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, definitely, And I think we have

825
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: to bring this up as well. People were getting on Rojas.

826
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: We'll bring him in a non safe situation again, to

827
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: which I go, who's coming in, guys, who's coming in?

828
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: Lugo pitched the night before the only thing that you

829
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: could have like a legitimate qualm with Why wouldn't Luke

830
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: come in there to face Yelich like he's seemingly there

831
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: to get our left handed batters. But I don't like

832
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: blaming Rojas on this, like he has to go to

833
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: his best arm in the bullpen, and whether you want

834
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: to believe it or not, guys Edwin Diaz is the

835
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: best arm in the Mets.

836
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: Bullpen, absolutely no doubt. Like there could be some days

837
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: where Lugo is just because Lugo is that good. But

838
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz, especially in situation, was a man on second

839
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: nobody out. He is who I want on the mound

840
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: the most. And just to blame Luis Rojas for this,

841
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: I think is borderline egregious. This guy has proven time

842
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: and time again to be a very good manager, a

843
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: guy who's ascending, Like he made a very savvy move

844
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: in the sixth inning of this game when the Mets

845
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: how the rally going peek out the double off of

846
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns, which either eventually knocked him out that batther

847
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: or the next batther. And you and I were texting

848
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: about getting a pinch runner for Pete and I didn't

849
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: think it was going to happen, and I think one

850
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: of us specifically mentioned Polar coming up to pinch run,

851
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: but the Mets sent McKinney out, and that was Rojas

852
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: being aware that Josh Hater was going to pitch the

853
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: seventh inning and he wanted Kevin Pollar, one of the

854
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: better Mets bats against left handed pitchers, to face Hater.

855
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: It didn't work out with Polar, but that was the

856
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: exact same sentiment with not using Parazza because Parazza, who

857
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm sure is faster than Billy McKinney, as I think

858
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Polar probably is as well, but McKinney can't hit Josh Heather.

859
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be able to hit him an or the

860
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: fact that he saved Polar and Parazza kind of shows

861
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: like a growing awareness of Luis Rojas. He is understanding

862
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: the game more. It's coming slower to him and he's

863
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: only getting better, which is why I really don't like

864
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: blame being heaped on him for a situation where his

865
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: closer just didn't execute.

866
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Set a time and time again, Louis Ross is our guy.

867
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: Louis Rojas is the manager of this team. He'd better

868
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: not be going anywhere anytime soon. He's really solidified himself

869
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: as a dude who deserves to be a manager of

870
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: this team. He did so great with the Triple A

871
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: and DOAA lineup. He's still doing great. He's getting good

872
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: performance out of guys. He's handling the bullpen well. Like

873
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: I think Edward or I think Louis Rojas deserves to

874
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: continue to stay with this team. And I think there's

875
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: people around Mets Twitter and around Mets World that want

876
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: this guy out and want Buck Showalter as some other idiot.

877
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: But Louis Rojass is the guy. He's the dude. We

878
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: want him there. I was so high on Luis Rojas

879
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: when they signed him or hired him as the manager

880
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: after Beltron, because this is the guy that they were

881
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: essentially grooming to eventually be the manager of the New

882
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: York Mets. He was one of the best minds in

883
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: the minor leagues. He was the quality like assurance coach

884
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: or whatever they call those now quality control guy, which

885
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Brian Schneider is now doing, who will eventually be a

886
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: manager somewhere. That's like the role where you groom your managers,

887
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: because that's a guy who's smart. You want them around

888
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: your players because they know something. They help your team.

889
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Louis rojass is guy, so please stop the Luis Rojas lander.

890
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: This team is not where we're at without Luis Rojas

891
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: as well.

892
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: Definitely.

893
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of Mets fans who just

894
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: cling to negativity and they want to find something to

895
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: be upset about, and we just gotta let that go.

896
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: This team is good, and let's jump back into how

897
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: we won this game in the top in the bottom

898
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: of the eighth inning because the fucking Bats picked up

899
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz.

900
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: We did they did against it. Bruce Souter, Bruce, Brent, Brent,

901
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: Brent Suter, Yes, yeah, Brent Brent ivy league guy. Yeah,

902
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: I interviewed him. Super nice guy, really nice. He is

903
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: like a really quirky, funny dude, which you would expect

904
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: from a left. He gave a great Jim carry.

905
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: You expect from a left.

906
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, great Jim carrier pressure. He's also very eco friendly,

907
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: super big on that. He like sells reusable water bottles,

908
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: So if you're into that, check out Brent Bruce whatever

909
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: his name is, suitor's.

910
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: Like whole cause what's his actual name. I think it's

911
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: Brent is Brent Souther.

912
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Brent Suitor. I've come across zero Brentson my life.

913
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: He's the first one. But anyway, he's the guy who's

914
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: been really good for the Bruce this year. And he

915
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: just lost it in that and he walked into everybody.

916
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: He did, and he's had control problems in his past.

917
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: He's like just always been one of those off throwing,

918
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: like change up sinker guys.

919
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: And he walked everybody, and Jeff McNeil came through.

920
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: He did it, needed it so badly. He hasn't been

921
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: struggling this year, specifically with runs in scoring position. And also,

922
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: weirdly enough, that's his first ever walk off RBI for

923
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: the Mets.

924
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy, and he hasn't been struggling runs in the

925
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: scoring position. They flashed it. I don't know if it

926
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: was this at bat or the bat before, because he

927
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: was up multiple times guys in scoring position. It's batting

928
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: average hovering around one hundred. We don't like using batting average,

929
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: but that's still a scary number.

930
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's very few players, I mean, maybe one who

931
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: can have a one in their batting average as the

932
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: first number and be positive offensively. And that's he has

933
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Moni Grondal and Jeff McNeal's not that guy, so he

934
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: needs to hit three hundred to be effective.

935
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: And Jeff McNeil has been injured, missed the large chunk

936
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: of the season. But they still came into this game

937
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: with only ten RBIs in the season and I think

938
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty at bats, which is a

939
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: pretty troubling number to say the least.

940
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like Luis germe'z RBIs I think

941
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: he has won on the season, has like one hundred

942
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: and fifty at bats as well. Two guys are not

943
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: driving in a runs. But McNeil got it when we

944
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: needed it. Thank you, Jeff, friend of the channel, friend

945
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: of the podcast. Glad to see him. He needed that,

946
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: he really needed.

947
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: I'm I'm happy to see him get it. And then

948
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: as we moved to Game three, he just wasn't in

949
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: a lineup.

950
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they sat him in NEMO because we were facing

951
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Brett Anderson. I don't know, again, Broas is not making

952
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: these lineups. We know that this is coming from up top.

953
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't like it. I don't

954
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: understand it.

955
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: No, no, stop, We did the exact same thing when

956
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: we a couple of weeks ago, the Friday double header

957
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: against the Phillies and Dom had the walkoff single and

958
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: against Matt Moore, he sat the second game.

959
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: Mets love punting the second game of a doubleheader. They

960
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: love saying hey, maybe.

961
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 3: Dude, we can't sweep anybody.

962
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: The Mets have just two sweeps of at least three

963
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: games on the season, and one of them did include

964
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: a double header with a walk off that Friday, that

965
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: doubleheader you were at, you know, I think that was April.

966
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: The Mets end up sweeping the series the Phillies four games.

967
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I was at that one, yes.

968
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: And then the the Diamondback series with the Raccoon fiasco.

969
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: So these are only two sweeps in the season that

970
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 2: since May, and we had a sweep and we continue

971
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: to just win two out of three, two ed of three,

972
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: two three two three, Well, I just finish it one time.

973
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: The second Manny Pina hit that home run tonight, it

974
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: was all over. There was no chance we're going to

975
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: hit the ace that is Brett Anderson.

976
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: No Manny Pineapples, who is not a very good hitter

977
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: by any means, seemingly of course, hits another I think

978
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: he owns the Mets, by the way. I think he's

979
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: another guy who just statistically hits very well against the Mets,

980
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: because why wouldn't he. I don't know how we can't

981
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: touch Brett Anderson. I know, like he's a sinker ball, pitcher, curveball, right,

982
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: he's a curveball guy.

983
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: Definitely a curveball guy.

984
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw a lot of curveballs, and

985
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: we know that the Mets can hit a curveball for their.

986
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: Doing that too. There was a point in the game

987
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: where Burns with like over seventy percent curveballs.

988
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: It just felt like the Mets were pounding everything into

989
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: the ground. But that being said, the Bets had a

990
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: freaking chance. Yeah, we had a shot, and we just

991
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: slipped through our fingers in the middle of the order.

992
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: Shit the bed. Oh my god.

993
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: We shouted out Brad Bocksberger before this series because it's

994
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: a shock that the Brewers have gotten anything out of

995
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: that guy. He's been bad for what feels like a generation.

996
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: He's just not a he doesn't have much.

997
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't have much, and they get something out

998
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: of nothing. But he walked three consecutive batters. Nemo drew

999
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: a crazy tough walk in a pinch the situation. My god,

1000
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: that guy have balls of steel. McNeil also drew one,

1001
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: it seeming happenstance. But again another I like that Rojas

1002
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: is maneuvering these lineups.

1003
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: He's pinch. There's getting guys in the game when the

1004
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: matchups do suit.

1005
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: And then VR just kind of got a walk because

1006
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: he was just standing there and he just he gotta

1007
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: walk his brad boxer and he couldn't find the strike zone.

1008
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: And then fuck Lindor, Dom and Pete all strike out.

1009
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: It was the ending of the three outcomes, but we

1010
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: just didn't get the third one.

1011
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Lindor missed the fat pitch, Yep missed a couple of

1012
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: fat pitches, and then took a pitch that was too

1013
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: close on the black tough pitch. But you got a swing.

1014
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: Especially with the base, you gotta put something in play.

1015
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: You have to put the ball in frigging play, even

1016
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: a even a ground ball. There scores one, yeah, scores

1017
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: one run, which we could have used. Dom had a

1018
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: god awful at bat, which Tom seems to do this

1019
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: and in like these these big big press ninth inning,

1020
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: he shortens up. I don't know what happens in the

1021
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: ninth he figures it out and he had besides the

1022
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: ninth he doesn't know what to do. It seems like

1023
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: in these pressure situations.

1024
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: Now and he had to pitch right down the middle,

1025
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: he swung out of his shoes on and went right

1026
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: through it, right through.

1027
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh, Mets, we're looking for the Grand Slam. We haven't

1028
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: hit one this year they were hunting for at that inning.

1029
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: Our whole lifetime is the Mets seems to stink with

1030
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: the basis loading. There's no I don't I remember so

1031
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: few Grand slams in my lifetime.

1032
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: Robin Ventura, that's about Fernando slams.

1033
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, David Wright, that one time.

1034
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Listen to what we're saying. Yeah, that one time he

1035
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: hit a Grand Slam.

1036
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: Literally, it's not And that was that's the first game

1037
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: of the City Field against the Padre is when the

1038
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Mets gave up tons of runs in the first inning. No,

1039
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: what other franchise to give up tons of runs in

1040
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: the first inning of the new ballpucker home run the

1041
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: first pitch.

1042
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: And and the old City Field with the great wall

1043
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: flushing where nobody it had a Jason Bay's career, Nobody

1044
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: could hit a home run there. It was impossible to

1045
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: score runs. The Padres figured out. But we're, you know,

1046
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: living in the past here.

1047
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: Ten years ago.

1048
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: We yeah, only ten years ago, but we had we

1049
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to really get the Brewers back again,

1050
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: let them off the hook. The middle of the line

1051
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: just has to be better. It's really what comes down.

1052
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: It does.

1053
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: But it's also comes down to is that the Mets

1054
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: beat the Brewers two out of three games. One of

1055
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: the best teams in the National Leagues. Now the Mets

1056
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: have taken the season series from the Padres, beating the

1057
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Brewers two out of three times and ended the Cup season.

1058
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Yes, that's pretty good in retrospect.

1059
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: And we've also, you know, in our division beaten around.

1060
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: The Braves beat the Phillies. The Nationals were kind of

1061
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: evenish with them.

1062
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: No, I think they have our numbers so far, do they?

1063
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they smacked us that last year. But regardless,

1064
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: the Mets are beaten. The Mets have beaten teams and

1065
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: beaten good teams, two teams that will be contending for

1066
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: World Series titles. The Mets have had their number this year.

1067
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling good about this team. Game three you're

1068
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna lose some games. It's stunk that we did. But

1069
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: we won game one in game two, which was huge,

1070
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: And like you said, if you just flipped it, we're

1071
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: riding frigging high after this season.

1072
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: We're cruising.

1073
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: And now we just played multiple series against good teams

1074
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: in a row, and now we have a series against

1075
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: someone who's not good for the first time, and it

1076
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: feels like a month. The Mets have a series against

1077
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: the team who we should beat. We should beat them.

1078
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: Gary Roys had the best. It's kind of like the

1079
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: old like football adage of a trap game. You could

1080
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: not let this be a trap series. We cannot look

1081
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: ahead to the All Star break. The Mets have four

1082
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: games coming up against a shit team in the Pittsburgh Pirates,

1083
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: and we have to beat the piss.

1084
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: Out of them.

1085
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: The Pirates are bad. The Pirates are really bad. Now

1086
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: they do have some redeemable players.

1087
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, a couple for sure.

1088
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: Key Brian Hayes is sick. He's a top ten third

1089
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: baseman in the league. I'm willing to say, because his

1090
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: glove and his bat are fund hitting great, He'll get there.

1091
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: He'll be fair fa yeah, yeah, of course.

1092
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: But Brian Reynolds is sick. Brian Reynolds has turned into

1093
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: not only one of the better defensive center fielders in baseball,

1094
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: but he's also hitting for power, which is something he

1095
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: has not shown until this year. Fifteen or sixteen home

1096
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: runs on the year while hitting for a high average

1097
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: like he does. He's an all Star. Adam Fraser hitting

1098
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: for high average. While you don't fear Adam Fraser by

1099
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: any means, this is a guy who's going to be

1100
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: a pest, you know what. He's going to do some

1101
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: shitty little bloop over the shortstop every once in a

1102
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: while for a couple of hits that are going to

1103
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: be real pay in the ass. But that being said,

1104
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: the rest of this team is not major League Baseball players,

1105
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: so you should stop the Pirates.

1106
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: I mean, we're facing JT.

1107
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: Brew Baker on Thursday night, so tonight probably when you're

1108
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: listening to this, he's decent.

1109
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: He's fine, like he knows how to pitch, he's aware.

1110
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: The Pirates have not named a.

1111
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: Starlar for Friday because it seems like for half of

1112
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: the Pirates games this year they do not name a

1113
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: Starla ahead of time because they simply don't have that many.

1114
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Then we get Tyler Anderson on Saturday, and Chase to

1115
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: Young I think on Sunday, and wow, is Chase too young?

1116
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: Bad?

1117
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: He might be Really, he's gonna join that list for

1118
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: the Anderson brothers, for us and whoever else we put

1119
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: on that.

1120
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: I think Chee Chee's on that list.

1121
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chee Chee's on there.

1122
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just guys who we could probably step in the

1123
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: box against and not look like children.

1124
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we could touch a baseball against Chase to Young.

1125
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: I'll try whatever.

1126
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: And then for the on the Mets side, we have

1127
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 2: Taiwang against Brew Baker on Thursday Strow Strow Show going

1128
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: on Friday, Tyl Laura McGill continuing his rampant charge through

1129
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball on Saturday, and then a question mark

1130
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: for Sunday, which there's been some speculation.

1131
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: That might be Jacob de Gram. We don't know. I

1132
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: don't know if they should be. I want your take

1133
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: on that. Would you like Jacob de Gram to pitch

1134
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: on Sunday?

1135
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: So yes, I would. I'd like to see de Gram.

1136
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1137
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you start him or if you

1138
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: use him as an opener. He's not pitching more than

1139
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: three innings Moost, I would start. He's got He's got

1140
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: like probably like forty five to fifty pitches in him

1141
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: whatever he does on like his aggressive bullpen days. The

1142
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: weird thing is that if he doesn't pitch this, he

1143
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: has like nine I think that's where I got nine

1144
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: days from. I think he has nine days off until

1145
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: his next start. So I don't like that, because he

1146
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: is a guy who's very scheduled. I'd rather him. You're

1147
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: playing the Pirates. It's not the craziest lineup in the

1148
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: world by any means. Sure, like it's a bullpen. It's

1149
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: just that now the Pirates hitters are up at the

1150
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: plate against you. I think that's very.

1151
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Doable, and we just don't have anyone else who I

1152
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: feel like can fill in this day. That would be

1153
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, so as Well's on the IL.

1154
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: That's like a Drew Flow start game.

1155
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: Probably Yeah, that would just be a straight up nine

1156
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: inning bullpen day against Chase too Young. So that would

1157
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: be kind of gross, to be honest with you.

1158
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: And I think depending on how the series goes the

1159
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: first three games, you'll see if the Grom pitches at all.

1160
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: If anything, I don't like that.

1161
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Really, I don't want even if we lose a game

1162
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: against the Pirates before Sunday, I don't want to feel

1163
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: like we're pressing against the Pirates, we have to throw

1164
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: the ground. I feel like he should just get them

1165
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: innings in because he's going to have nine days off,

1166
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: you know.

1167
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, like he needs to throw at something.

1168
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: And he's not a he's not a baby like Jacob

1169
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: de Gram is not made of glass. He doesn't have bones,

1170
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: of skin of paper.

1171
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: It is an osteoporosis. Like this dude out there.

1172
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's this physical specimen. He's one of the greatest

1173
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: pitchers of all time. Like he can he can handle

1174
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: it people, and like, don't even risk it against the Pirates.

1175
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Get into the All Star break. No, this is not

1176
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 2: this is not like the greatest risk in the world.

1177
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: We're not like snipping the right wire. We're gonna blow

1178
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: up the whole organization if we fuck this up. You

1179
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: the grom could face the Pirates. That's like one in

1180
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: the hand vers two in the bush. Win a fucking game.

1181
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Like every game's gonna become very important as we move forward,

1182
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: and we need to do it. I will rephrase that

1183
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: not that we need to pitch it the Graham against

1184
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: the Pirates. We need to make sure we're in the

1185
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: best position to win every game. I don't want to

1186
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: punt this game with I don't even know who would.

1187
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: I literally don't know who could pitch it. I costs

1188
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: not on the rust the organization anymore.

1189
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: Oswelt's on the iel. So Bucky is that? Is he

1190
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: still around?

1191
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna pitch the Pucky. That guy

1192
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: look terrible.

1193
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: You find me another option, find me, oh, Nick Tropiano, Fine,

1194
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: it might be Nick. Yeah, find me a human being

1195
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: with a pulse and an arm. That would be the picture.

1196
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: Besides the Grom.

1197
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: I guess Robert Stock could be the guy too.

1198
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: But he also threw today.

1199
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: He also didn't look that bad.

1200
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: We actually did look really good. We should have mentioned

1201
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: that he looked fine. I didn't realize how acclaimed of

1202
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: him of a draft pick he was.

1203
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: He was as a catcher, right, yeah, and he was

1204
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: like a slugger apparently back in the day.

1205
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: And he had a great quote after the game by

1206
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: how like motivated he was to get back into the

1207
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: league after he was DFA by the Cubs. He's like

1208
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: one of Google Maps. I found the nearest field through

1209
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: the balls of the fence for a couple of days.

1210
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: That's sick.

1211
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: No, this dude is a ballplayer, and I think he

1212
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: has a spot somewhere somewhere. I don't know if in

1213
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: my heart to him. Yeah, I don't know if the

1214
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Mets will hold on to him, but I think he's

1215
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: good enough to be a major league pitcher for some

1216
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: team somewhere. Someone could use it.

1217
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: It's better than Chase the Young, I'm sure.

1218
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Definitely better than Chase the Young, And I feel better

1219
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: with him on the mound than maybe even a guy

1220
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: like Yea, I'm a moto so and we also got

1221
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: JD news that he's not gonna come off until after

1222
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: the All Star break. Yea, They're gonna use all the

1223
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: rehab days. He'll be back after the All Star break,

1224
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: which I think is the right move.

1225
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: To Yeah, at that point, like will we rushing for?

1226
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: It's okay?

1227
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: And then you have a very personal pirate to watch

1228
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: this week. Who's that gonna be?

1229
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to make a personal because I

1230
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: think this guy is a very int talented pitcher. I'

1231
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: want you take anything away from he's good Yeah, he's

1232
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: very good. This David Bednar, my buddy Ross, great friend

1233
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: of mine from college, actually coming this weekend to catch

1234
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: his cousin Dave at City Field. But the guy's a

1235
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: freaking really good reliever. He was just kind of buried

1236
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: in the Padres bullpen for a couple of years. He

1237
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: couldn't break through because of how many talented arms I

1238
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: have back there, and they just kept seemed to keep

1239
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: acquiring them, and he kept pushing him back, which thinks

1240
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: because the guy showed flashes and he's turned out to

1241
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: be very good. He came to the Pirates and the

1242
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Joe Musgrove trade, and damn has he been impressive this year.

1243
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: He throws the fourth hardest splither in all of Major

1244
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: League Baseball, which in of himself is a pretty impressive feat.

1245
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: And the little scoop I got from the inside is

1246
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: that this splither was passed on to Dave from mister

1247
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Kirby Yates, so as a very good splitter, one of

1248
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: the best spliyers we've seen in this generation of baseball.

1249
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: So as Kirby Yates dissolved into baseball dust, dissipated, flew

1250
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: away in the wind, he passed on his greatest gift

1251
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: to a new young reliever break through, and it's helping

1252
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: him along with that splither, Dave sits ninety seven, he

1253
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: can touch one hundred. If you pull up his page

1254
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: on Baseball Savant, there's just read ink everywhere. He's near

1255
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: the ninety eight percentile and pullin's ex velocity with rate

1256
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: strikeout percentage, Like, this guy's a good reliever. We're gonna

1257
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: probably see the Pirates. I'm sure we'll probably find a

1258
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: way to win one game this series. They just took

1259
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: a series from the Braves. When they are ahead, you're

1260
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: gonna see David Bednar setting up for probably Richard Rodriguez,

1261
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: and you can be like, wow, this guy does that

1262
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: pretty good stuff.

1263
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: That's cool, and that's a very talented baseball family, as

1264
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: we've learned, because Dave Bednar's brother Will Bednar from Mississippi State.

1265
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: Is our perfect segue into our draft preview because the

1266
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: New York Mets have the number ten overall pick and

1267
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: a guy that could be picked is Dave Bednar's brother,

1268
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Will Bednar, who is flying up boards for the MLB

1269
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: draft based on his performance to the College World Series.

1270
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: This is a guy who is a borderline first round

1271
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: pick before the College World Series performance, but after he

1272
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: like almost no hit Texas and had great games against Vandy.

1273
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: He just kept going up and up and up to

1274
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: the point where he might be a legitimate possibility for

1275
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: the Mets at ten. He's sick. He's got a really

1276
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: good fastball, disgusting slider, which some believe could be the

1277
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: best pitch in the entire draft class, best pitch out

1278
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: of any pitcher, doesn't matter who is. His slider might

1279
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: be the best pitch in the entire draft class. He's

1280
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: a good pitcher. He's very like you don't have to

1281
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: fix a lot with.

1282
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: Him, no, and he has it like whatever it could

1283
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: possibly be, Like Will Bednar, He's tenacious, he's aggressive, he's confident.

1284
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: He pitches with the right amount of emotion, which I

1285
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: think we see if from a lot of the college

1286
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: baseball players, especially in the College World Series. But he

1287
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: just felt very much in control of the things happening

1288
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: around him. Like I think back to that Game three

1289
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: where he went up against Kumar Rocker, a noto, a

1290
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: Mets target w I'm sure you'll get to and he

1291
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: had a very shaky first inning coming off three days

1292
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: rest in the clinching game. Mississippi State as an university

1293
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: has never won an organized like a team sport championship. Ever,

1294
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: Wild Fangras reported that an estimated one percent of the

1295
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: post population of Mississippi made their way to Omahad some

1296
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: point during the World Series. An entire state on Will

1297
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: Bednar's back, the broad shoulders of Bednar, and he dominated

1298
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: the vaunted Vandy line up.

1299
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: No hits. I think it was six or seven innings.

1300
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vandy is a loaded college baseball team. For those

1301
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: of you aren't keen on the college baseball scene, Vandy

1302
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: is essentially the Los Angeles Dodgers of college baseball. Every

1303
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: single year they're very good. They almost win the SEC

1304
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: every single year. They're a College World Series contender every year.

1305
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: They have some of the best college prospects every single year.

1306
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: To shut them down is quite the feat. Three days

1307
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: shut down, three days rest, and to go up against

1308
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Kamar Rocker, who at one point was the consensus number

1309
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: one overall draft pick. Everyone thought he was gonna be

1310
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: number one. He slid a little bit because of poor

1311
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: performances in the College World Series. There's also concerns with

1312
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: some command with him, and really what you're gonna get

1313
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: from him. Here's the thing with Kamar Rocker. You hear

1314
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: those negatives and you think, why would you take him? Well,

1315
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good reasons why. If available at ten,

1316
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: I think the Mets will one hundred percent take Kamar

1317
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Rocker if he is there. One the talent is there.

1318
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 1: He was one of the best college pitchers in baseball

1319
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: for the last three years. Threw a no hitter as

1320
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: a freshman against Duke. That was his big coming out party,

1321
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: and then he had just dominated ever since. Fastball not

1322
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: a particularly fantastic pitch. That was one thing that people

1323
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: are concerned about that as fastball, it's its high nineties.

1324
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: Like he's he's a absolutely massive dude. I believe his

1325
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: dad was an NFL player. I don't remember what is

1326
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: the dad's name is, but he played in the NFL.

1327
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: Huge dude. Also call him Kamar, not Kumar Kamar. He

1328
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: was very specific about that, like Francisco, Indorth, Frankie fastball good,

1329
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: but it's flat that pitch gets hit. His slider, that's

1330
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: the pitch that's really really good and that makes people go, hey,

1331
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: that's his swing and miss pitch along with its change ups,

1332
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: also very strong, still needs this kind of develop a

1333
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: fourth pitch. I think he throws a curveball every once

1334
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: in a while that's also strong, but at times tends to hang,

1335
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: which is gonna happen with these young pitchers. But if

1336
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: Kamar's available at ten, Mets will also take him. Because

1337
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: this was a guy, like I said, at the beginning

1338
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: of the year, was possibly a number one overall pick.

1339
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: People thought for sure he was a lock there. Dropped

1340
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: with a little bit of a down season, But that's

1341
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen when you also have a year off from

1342
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: college baseball. Some other guys that the Mets could take

1343
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: at the number ten overall pick A lot of college

1344
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: players here. The Mets have been a little aggressive with

1345
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: the prep bats recently, but as we know, Sandy Alderson

1346
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: likes college players, David Peterson, Michael confordo just to name

1347
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: a few some college players, even a Jeff McNeil college player,

1348
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: Matt McClain, guy from UCLA. UCLA great baseball school. A

1349
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: lot of these schools that we're gonna mention are really

1350
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: good baseball schools. Mattmcain's a very safe pick. He's a

1351
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: middle and field prospect, probably more of a second baseman.

1352
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: Good athlete, good speed, good glove, hits for average, little

1353
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: bit of pop in his bat, not anything that's you're

1354
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna go crazy about. He's essentially a guy that the

1355
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Mets would take that would go high into their prospect

1356
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: rankings right now and be used as a trade. Matt

1357
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: McLean wouldn't be anybody that you'd expect to see on

1358
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: the future of the New York Mets. Colton Kowser is

1359
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: a guy from sam Houston State, which might make you

1360
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: go where the hell is that Texas school. Colton Kowser

1361
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: profiles a lot like Christian Yelich. He's a big, lanky

1362
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: kid who hits for average. The power is there, and

1363
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: he showcased it this year in college baseball. I think

1364
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: he had like somewhere around fifteen to twenty home runs

1365
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: this year, which we hadn't seen from Colton Cowsan in

1366
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: a while. Really good athlete, can play center field, can

1367
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: stick there for a little bit. He's got a good bat.

1368
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: That's why you would take him. But of course with

1369
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: college players, the development is always key because these guys

1370
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: are drafting them at twenty two to twenty three, twenty

1371
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: one they've got to be able to fly through the

1372
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: minor league system. You take some risk when you draft

1373
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: some college players that are outfielders. South Frelick from Boston College.

1374
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: This is a guy I'm not particularly high on. I

1375
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: don't understand the hype with it, but I think we

1376
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: have to mention it because I've seen him connected to

1377
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: the Mets a lot. He's five foot.

1378
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 3: Him and McLean have been connected to them as in

1379
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: every mock draft.

1380
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I've seen, yes, and neither of those guys are particularly exciting.

1381
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: When you think of a top ten pick, you want

1382
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: someone who's exciting. South freylic is the definition of unexciting.

1383
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: He is pretty boring to me. Now, maybe I'm being

1384
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: a little bit harsh here because I don't see a

1385
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: high ceiling with this guy. His floor is very high.

1386
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: One of the safer picks in the draft right now.

1387
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: But he's essentially to me a Brett Gardner type player.

1388
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: He's five foot nine, short, stocky guy who's got some

1389
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: nice speed. Plays a corner outfield spot, plays it pretty

1390
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: well as well, just like Brett Gardner. Not particularly great

1391
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: arm hits for average, slaps the ball around conteal bases.

1392
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: Very good college player, this guy came out of nowhere

1393
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: from Boston College. You don't typically hear of a lot

1394
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: of hitters coming from that school. I just am not

1395
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: crazy about this pick. And I'm sure from what you're

1396
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: hearing too, James, you're not excited about a college hitter.

1397
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: That's just kind of fine.

1398
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: No, I mean, based on would you tell me I'm

1399
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: not very advanced in the college scating game that has

1400
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: definite marks forte And I believe everything you say full throttle.

1401
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 2: I will take all those takes as gospel. But Feelick

1402
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to me to have the power ceiling

1403
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: you'd want from a top ten pick. And I think

1404
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: about these aren't the same players, because the guy Who'm

1405
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: gonna mention is much more prolific, especially in college. But

1406
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: I think a lot about Nick Madrigal, where everyone knew

1407
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: exactly who Nick Madge's gonna be. He's gonna play great defense,

1408
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: he had great speed, contact skills out the wazoo, and

1409
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: was never gonna give you power just simply because of

1410
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: his size and the way he swinks and just like

1411
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: his makeup. Like there are short guys who generate tons

1412
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: of power. I think about how two Van Bregman specifically,

1413
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: but Madrigal just doesn't have that kind of stocky buildin

1414
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: Freelick reminds me of that where I'm sure he'll be

1415
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: a fine baseball player for a period of time, but

1416
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: there's just not the like the height I want a

1417
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: top ten pick to reach.

1418
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: If you told me I'm taking south Relic in the second, third,

1419
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: fourth round, hell, yeah, sounds like a great little baseball player.

1420
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: Sounds a little bit like a Jeff McNeil type. But

1421
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: with your number ten overall pick, I don't like it.

1422
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that he's not gonna be good

1423
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: at number ten. I don't like it. Another college player

1424
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: that could be really interesting, but there are some health

1425
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: concerns is Sam Bachman out of Miami of Ohio. He's

1426
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: a right handed pitcher who has flown up boards this year,

1427
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: thrown really really hard, a little like three quarters side army.

1428
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: He's a starting pitcher for sure, throws about ninety eight

1429
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: on average with some armside run. Has hit like one

1430
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: oh one, one oh two this year, which is the

1431
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: thing that excites people. Has like three very very strong pitches.

1432
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: Buddy has some injury concerns, so that is what could

1433
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: scare off Sam Bachman from the Mets.

1434
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: I kind of put Gunner Hoagland in the category of

1435
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: Bachmann right now too, as being like a more polished

1436
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: college pitcher where the stuff will jump out. But he's

1437
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: literally in the process of Tommy john rehabilitation right now.

1438
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gunner Hogland, if he didn't have Tommy John's a

1439
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: top ten pick, that's a fact. But because of the

1440
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Johnny's gonna drop to him maybe the middle of

1441
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: the first round.

1442
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: He still could be a top ten pick anyway, because

1443
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 2: something the Mets have liked to do in years past

1444
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: is take like a bit of a safer first round

1445
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: pick and then shoot overslot as the rounds go on.

1446
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: And Hogland's a guy who you could negotiate with in

1447
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: a way to get him under slot and then take

1448
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: more risks on prep bats in the mid round.

1449
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 3: Again, something the Mets have.

1450
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Done, which I want to now lead into a prep

1451
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: bat that could be. I don't know if it's a

1452
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: safer pick, and I don't know if he'll necessarily cost less,

1453
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: but they could reach on a guy like Colson Montgomery,

1454
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: who's this really big, left handed hitter, lanky kid. He's

1455
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: technically a short stop, probably more of a third baseman really,

1456
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, I don't know how he's gonna

1457
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: play shorts up at like a professional baseball level. But

1458
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: saw this guy directly at the Combine. Huge, massive kid,

1459
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: and like you can only imagine he's gonna get stronger

1460
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: and bigger. The one thing that concerned me is he

1461
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: had a lot of top spin on the balls that

1462
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: he was hitting. But when he hit the ball, everyone

1463
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: stop what they were doing when he hits it, right.

1464
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's eighteen, nineteen years old whatever he is,

1465
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: and he's hitting the ball like four hundred and thirty

1466
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: four hundred and forty feet with a wood bat. That

1467
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: is really really good stuff. He was turning the heads

1468
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: at the Combine. He was a first round pick to

1469
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: begin with anyway, but there's a chance that the Mets

1470
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: cou go after him. Mets have been linked to him

1471
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. The Mets were heavily scouting him apparently

1472
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: at the Combine as well, so that's worth noting. A

1473
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: couple pictures that I want to mention we talked about

1474
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: with Will Bednar being that guy we talked about. Kamar

1475
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: Rocker also want to bring up Jackson Job, who is

1476
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: the best high school arm in this draft class without

1477
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: a doubt. Throws about ninety five. That's where he sits

1478
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: can hit like ninety seven to ninety eight. And of

1479
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: course he's a high school kid, so there's room for

1480
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: growth there. But his slider, just like we said will

1481
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: Bednor slider might be the best in the class. I

1482
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: was hearing, Jackson Job has the best picture of being

1483
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: the slider in the class. His RPM on the slider

1484
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: is about thirty two to thirty four hundred. For you

1485
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: guys at home who are wondering what that compares to

1486
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: a major League Baseball pitcher, that would be the best

1487
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: slider at Major League Baseball this year. And that's what

1488
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: sticky stuff being included. So Jackson Job has a filthy,

1489
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: filthy slider, one of the nasty sliders I've ever seen,

1490
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: really really repeatables that are like super compact, super easy

1491
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: to you know, do multiple times. This is a good pitcher.

1492
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: Might go in the top five. It depends how aggressive

1493
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: teams want to be. But there's also a chance that

1494
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: he drops to ten if teams aren't gonna be as aggressive.

1495
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: Very very talented guy, also son of a former professional golfer.

1496
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: The dad has like some weird name, but Jobe's the

1497
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: last name. Tim Madden's a guy that I know you

1498
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: talked about, a little bit pitcher from Texas, big dude,

1499
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: very strong, has a lot of pitches. I think, like

1500
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: four legit pitches here. I'm not as high on Time

1501
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: Madden because I just didn't see anything that jumped off

1502
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: the page.

1503
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: To me.

1504
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: It seems like a guy who's like, he's got the

1505
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: four pitches and they all except the fastball. The fastball

1506
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: is a little hard. All kind of rank average right

1507
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: now to a little above average. But he's huge, big,

1508
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: strong kid, and of course people think that you're gonna

1509
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: be able to get more out of him. So I

1510
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: understand it wouldn't be my first pick, especially if there

1511
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: are some guys on the board, but I could understand

1512
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: why the Mets would do that.

1513
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Madden a lot, specifically for the Mets,

1514
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: because I feel like he'll be able to impact this

1515
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: organization relatively quickly, and the timeline that the Mets are

1516
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: on right now, we kind of I want a pitcher

1517
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: who can contribute in the next three years, you know,

1518
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: I feel like we'll still be having peaked a gram.

1519
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen though Cinderguard's contract, and

1520
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 2: then by that time we'll have Matthew Allen about breaking through.

1521
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: I'd say so.

1522
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: I think the Mets do need another pitcher to be

1523
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: on that same path with Matthew Allen, to be nearing

1524
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: the major leagues by say twenty twenty four. And I

1525
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 2: think that is why I believe the Mets are gonna

1526
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: go pitture with this pick.

1527
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: And I will say that this draft class is super weird.

1528
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: The last few years in the draft it has been

1529
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: pitcher pitcher heavy. Now, of course, Spencer Torclsen number one,

1530
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: Adlee Rushman, that's what you're thinking of the last few years.

1531
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: But this year you've got Jack Lighter and Kamar and

1532
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: we'll throw Will Bedner in there too. Those are the

1533
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: three most like hype pitching prospects that have like some

1534
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: really really plus stuff right out the gate. It's not

1535
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: a very deep pitching class. You're getting later in the

1536
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: first round, second round, where you're seeing guys that are

1537
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: really high school arms throwing like ninety two ninety three,

1538
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: hitting ninety five teams hoping they can mold them into

1539
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: being this top front line pitcher. There's not a lot

1540
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: of huge arms right now in the draft, so maybe

1541
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: the Mets do get aggressive because they know that in

1542
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: the later rounds you might not be able to find

1543
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: some of these guys. The last guy I want to

1544
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: mention that the Mets could maybe take at the number

1545
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: ten overall pick again big, maybe he might probably won't

1546
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: drop to here is Brady House. First off, great name,

1547
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: because this dude is literally built like a fucking house.

1548
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: He's eighteen years old, he's six foot four, like two

1549
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 1: thirty five, and he plays shortstop and is gonna stick

1550
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: at shortstop, which is the craziest thing. He's actually got

1551
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: a pretty good glove. He has some bath to ball

1552
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: issues because he is such a big dude. He tries

1553
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: to crush some pitches. He gets like a little home

1554
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: run happy with his swing, but boy, when he hits

1555
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: it, it goes really really far as you can imagine for

1556
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: a six foot four to two thirty five high schooler,

1557
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: really really talented player. Most likely is not making it there.

1558
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: But there have been some people who think that Brady

1559
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: House will drop because there is concern with this bat

1560
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: to ball swing and misissue I'm cool with it. I

1561
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: don't mind taking guys who have that huge, huge potential

1562
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: in the draft because you get twenty friggin' picks, and

1563
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: I would rather sell out for a guy who could

1564
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: be a generational All Star kind of player at number

1565
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: ten then go safe like a Matt McLain herself free. Look,

1566
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: like we mentioned, I hope the Mets get risky with

1567
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: this pick here. I hope we go after someone that's

1568
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: big All Star potential and we don't play it safe.

1569
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: I agree with that at one hundred percent. That's just

1570
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: like game theory in a way.

1571
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: And I also, like, just from talking to you and

1572
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: like the reading I've done about the draft, it feels

1573
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: like there's like fifteen ish top ten guys in this draft,

1574
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: if you catch my drift, and that the Mets are

1575
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of in a very advantageous spot at number ten

1576
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: to either take a shot on someone who could be

1577
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: a generational talent or take a guy who's gonna be

1578
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: a very safe major leaguer. The fact that those are

1579
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: both gonna be options at the tenth pick in the

1580
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: draft is astounding and puts the Mets in a great position.

1581
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's really cool, Like you said, with the ability

1582
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: to have that many guys who are top ten ish players,

1583
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: is that you wait to see who's there, and then

1584
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: you have your picks, and there's going to be somebody

1585
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: that you want to take. There's going to be someone

1586
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: that's available that is a good pick, and that sometimes

1587
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: doesn't happen in the MLB draft. You sometimes get a

1588
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: little handcuffed you missed your guy. The Mets probably have

1589
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen guys that they want here, and that's

1590
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: a really, really good problem to have some other guys

1591
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: that the Mets could look at later. These are not

1592
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: first round picks by any means. These are just guys

1593
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: that I've simply watched some stuff on that I like, second, third, fourth,

1594
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: twentieth round. I hope that the Mets at least look

1595
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: at these guys and take them. And number one on

1596
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: my list is a guy I've been telling you about

1597
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: since I saw him take one swing at the combine.

1598
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: His name is Ryan Spikes. Shout out to this kid,

1599
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: follows me on Twitter. I've been hyping him up ever

1600
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: since I've seen him play. Great baseball name, great baseball name.

1601
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: But he is a great baseball player and I will

1602
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: be Pipeline. He's ranked I think like one ninety five

1603
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: out of two fifty right now, so not particularly hot.

1604
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you shout up to the top hundred

1605
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 3: this week.

1606
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, well that's on Baseball America. I think he

1607
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: jumped one hundred spots on Baseball America's rankings. Now I

1608
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: can't see where because I don't pay for Baseball America,

1609
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: but he jumped one hundred spots. And I talked to

1610
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: JJ Cooper, who's at Baseball America there at the combine.

1611
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: He was watching Ryan Spikes closely. This dude is a player.

1612
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: He's five foot eight or five foot nine. He's a

1613
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: short dude, but he's strong. He's built like an ox.

1614
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: He's very, very strong. He's a shortstop right now, probably

1615
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: turns into a second baseman. But you're looking at a

1616
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: Jose Altuve ish player at that second base spot, and

1617
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: with a mid round pick, third, fourth, I don't know

1618
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: if he's gonna make it that far. I don't really know.

1619
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: It's tough for the draft teams take who they want.

1620
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 1: Ryan Spikes is a guy I would love to see

1621
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: the Mets take. Hits the ball to all fields, great

1622
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: contact hitter, He's also got pop. He was putting up

1623
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: some of the best eggs Velos at the Draft Combine.

1624
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: Going up against guys who are bigger, stronger, older, you're

1625
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: going up against college players, and he was putting up

1626
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: some of the best eggs of Velo's, hitting some of

1627
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: the furthest home runs. He put on a show at

1628
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: the combine. I love this kid.

1629
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: He seems like a great pivot off of Matt McClain.

1630
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: To take a high upside pitcher or just like a

1631
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: really physically mature high schooler, and then to take Ryan

1632
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: Spikes either jump him in the second or third round,

1633
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: probably be able to sign him under slot because he

1634
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have that much hype. I think you are actually

1635
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: driving the Ryan Spikes hype train.

1636
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 3: You were.

1637
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. I don't think that he was

1638
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: getting as much hype until I started to tweeting about

1639
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: this guy non stop at the combine.

1640
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: It's true, and it's good. That's good for him. You're

1641
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: gonna make the kids of money. That's incredible.

1642
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: Yes, another guy that I really liked at the combine

1643
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: TJ White. Shout out to TJ. He also follows me.

1644
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: It's just a pure coincidence that I really like the

1645
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: guys that followed me, I swear to God, but they

1646
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: saw me hyping them up and then they followed me like, oh,

1647
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: thirty thousand followers, let's follow this guy met his parents,

1648
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: great people. They thanked me very much for tweeting about him.

1649
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: Have I not told you this?

1650
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: No, he did not tell me that.

1651
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: I was sitting down watching, you know, the high school

1652
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: kids play, and a parents sit down next to me.

1653
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, thank you so much, Like have you

1654
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: been tweeting about my son? And I was like, who's

1655
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: your son? They're like TJ.

1656
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: Way.

1657
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I love that kid swing. I'm like,

1658
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: he's a ballplayer. They're like, thank you so much. You

1659
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: like made our day. He followed you like he was

1660
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: so happy that he saw that tweet. I felt great

1661
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: about that. That was really it was a really cool moment.

1662
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: Also South Carolina people, which is cool. He's a guy

1663
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: who's seventeen, so he's super super young. I'd love to

1664
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: see the Mets take this guy whenever he's available, Like

1665
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: he's not. He's probably not like even a first ten

1666
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: rounds guy, but he's seventeen, runs really well. Switch hitter,

1667
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: hits for power from both sides, outfielder, corner, first baseman

1668
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: as well, maybe at some point. So that's why his

1669
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: thocks a little bit lower, is that he's not one

1670
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: of those up the middle positions that you crave. But

1671
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: I like the guts of this kid, and at seventeen,

1672
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: he's frigging huge and he's super underrated because he comes

1673
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: from a baseball state in South Carolina, hotbeds all around,

1674
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: and the University of Indiana snuck him and they got him.

1675
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: He was going. He's going to the University of Indiana

1676
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get drafted or signed. Some other names

1677
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw out. I'll mention some guys that,

1678
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: like I think, have some really cool stuff. Brock Selvage,

1679
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: left handed pitchers, sits around mid nineties at like his

1680
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: max ninety two ninety three. He's been working with a

1681
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: pitching group. I don't remember which one it is, but

1682
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: I tweet out about him and they were throwing love that. Like,

1683
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: this guy has been working his ass off the last

1684
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: year and his stock has risen. He's an LSU commit,

1685
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: so clearly has some talent. I'd like to see the

1686
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: Mets look at him. James Wood is a really really

1687
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: interesting player that the Mets can maybe take in the

1688
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: second round. He's about six foot seven, He's like two twenty.

1689
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong kid, plays the outfield, great athlete.

1690
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: The back to ball skills are very, very, very sketchy,

1691
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: but he hit one of the furthest home runs I've

1692
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: ever seen with a wood bat. Granted was from a

1693
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: Twitter video, but if you look it up you might

1694
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: remember if you guys have seen it. He's this big,

1695
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: left handed played at IMG Academy, crushed the ball that

1696
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: was above his head with a wood bat and just

1697
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: watched it.

1698
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: No exactly what you're talking about.

1699
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: Yes, James would, I'm interested in that. That's a load

1700
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: to go. I'm willing to take a shot out of him.

1701
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: So I want to see James Wood. Spencer Schwallenbach. I

1702
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: believe he's going to or he's from the University of Nebraska.

1703
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: Weirdly a shortstop and right handed pitcher throws ninety five.

1704
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: People like what he's got on the mound. Really good guy.

1705
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: Might sneak into the first round, probably around that fifty

1706
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: is range, though Bradon Montgomery another very good out athlete

1707
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: in the outfield switch hitter, Edwin Arroyo, shortstop out of

1708
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Very very good glove, has some pop in

1709
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: the bat that he showed at the combine. He just

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01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: kind of falls in that he doesn't hit the ball

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: that hard, so that's where you might get a little concerned.

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: Malachai Knight another one of these really really good, high potential,

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: high ceiling guys. Strong names, and he's a guy who's

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna go to UCLA. UCLA prospects have been getting drafted

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,959
Speaker 1: up like crazy recently and have turned out really good.

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01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: Malachai Knight. Two guys have no hype that I like,

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: Cam McGee, Cameron Muller, Ethan Wilson out the University of

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: South Alabama, Robbie Martin out of Florida State. We got

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01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: an Ohio State Buckeye here with Seth Lonsway, left handed

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01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: pitcher who was actually hyped up as a possible first

1721
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: round pick last year but ended up not getting picked.

1722
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: He just I don't think was ready to go. He

1723
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: has some crazy case stuff. Met should keep an eye

1724
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: out on him. This is a dude who could be

1725
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: a very very sneaky late pick that is going to

1726
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: be very good seth Lonsway, keep an eye out for

1727
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: that Chase Mason who the Padres were all over there.

1728
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: And if the Padres are all over a guy, I

1729
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: want him South or North Dakota so they don't play

1730
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: much baseball out there. He's a big, strong cad. He's

1731
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: like again six for five or six three six, six

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01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: five two ten. He only hits fly balls. This is

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: super interesting. He only hits fly balls, has no idea

1734
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: how to hit a ground ball, hits him really really

1735
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: far or really really high. So those are your two

1736
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: outcomes or swing and miss three true outcome guy, and

1737
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: he is one of the fastest players available in the draft.

1738
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: Play center field, good prospect, Jackson Lynn, strong kid. You

1739
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: can see what I like. I like big, strong guys

1740
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: because I want high potential players, and I think that's

1741
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: what the Mets should be doing. The Mets as an

1742
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: organization have been a little safe recently iNTS with some

1743
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: of the players that they've been picking. Now that we

1744
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: have a very good major league roster, I think it's

1745
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: time for the Mets to take a little bit of

1746
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: a risky approach, take guys with more tools as opposed

1747
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: to the safe picks that you know what you're gonna get.

1748
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: Let's be aggressive, Let's try to get some top talent here.

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good players. The Mets can really

1750
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: strengthen this farm system and even use these guys to

1751
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: then be trade pieces in future future drafts, whatever it's good,

1752
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: or future trade deadlines, whatever it's gonna be. This is

1753
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: a very very talented draft. And I just talked about

1754
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: the draft for like super super long here. We're going

1755
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: on our longest episode easily. But I love the MLB Draft.

1756
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: I fall in love with it since last year. Super exciting.

1757
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: I was money last year. I'm trying to be money

1758
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: again this year.

1759
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 3: Cash money, cash money, cash money.

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna wrap up episode number thirty

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Speaker 1: of the Mess Up Podcast. Here. I'm your co host

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: Draft Neckmark here with James Sheiano. Jeter had no rage.

1763
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,840
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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,559
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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,519
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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: you after the pirates series here. Thanks for listening, Thanks

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01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: for watching, See you guys next time.

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Speaker 3: Peace Out