Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something y'all was going on?
Speaker 2: But he's a legendary Queen's rapper.
Speaker 3: Is your boy in I E.
Speaker 4: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is dj
Speaker 4: E f N?
Speaker 5: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest
Speaker 5: players in music and sports? You know what I mean,
Speaker 5: the most professional unprofessional podcast.
Speaker 1: This is drinks every day is New Year's Eve. Yo,
Speaker 1: hay hank Segreea. This is your boy in r E.
Speaker 4: What up this d J E f N?
Speaker 2: And right now we are blessed with the legendary.
Speaker 4: Ye blessed, So we gotta we gotta make some noise.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, because the intro was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy right here, like listen, listen, they have
Speaker 2: the they have the Godfathers, and this man is directly
Speaker 2: like my father in lyrics, like in in style, and
Speaker 2: I directly tried to be like this man right here,
Speaker 2: and I send out the APB try to make it happen.
Speaker 2: Let's big up a Hakeem Green off top Channel Channel
Speaker 2: Live Squark Madism. We love you, Haqeen. But we got
Speaker 2: the blast Master, we got the teacher, we got the
Speaker 2: father directly Temple of Hip Hop, all that. The Master,
Speaker 2: the dude who made it cool to learn in music
Speaker 2: and still be entertained.
Speaker 4: You could be smart and you could still Doug Get
Speaker 4: the fuck out, yo.
Speaker 2: The other day, I'm gonna be honest, I'm watching Ride
Speaker 2: Along Too. And at the end of Ride Along Too,
Speaker 2: my kids they are eight and they are six, and
Speaker 2: they sung, they said, whoa, whoa, this the son out
Speaker 2: of the Police.
Speaker 1: And at that moment, I knew I was a great father.
Speaker 2: I knew at that very moment, I was a great
Speaker 2: father when my kids knew the sign of the police.
Speaker 2: We have the one and only legendary you can't say
Speaker 2: hip hop without KRS one in the building. Drake tails Man,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yo, you know what the crazy shi
Speaker 2: it is. I'm gonna start the interview offs like this.
Speaker 2: When I was locked up in a juvenile detention center,
Speaker 2: I had a.
Speaker 1: CEO who was taking care of me right.
Speaker 2: He was, you know, holding me down, and he could
Speaker 2: have snuck me weed, he could have snucked me liquor,
Speaker 2: he could have snucked me books.
Speaker 1: But I wanted that criminal minded. This is real ship.
Speaker 1: This is you know how much of a big KRS fan.
Speaker 4: That's the track I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: Is y'all to together that.
Speaker 2: I'm the biggest kress One fan. Man, Let's just make
Speaker 2: some noise for him being in the building.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 1: Yo, yo, we got the fucked up most naked So.
Speaker 2: Blast master karas One. How does it feel to be
Speaker 2: in Miami? How long you been coming out here?
Speaker 6: Man, don't even know we get into the history of that, right, yo. Man,
Speaker 6: I've been coming to Miami since what like eighty seven?
Speaker 6: We were coming up here, man, struggling, trying to be heard,
Speaker 6: and there was only a few places that actually like
Speaker 6: embraced us. Philly was always right there. Philly, Philadelphia, just
Speaker 6: the whole Philly. Is that like we went from New
Speaker 6: York to Philly.
Speaker 1: That was let me start.
Speaker 2: So you think that New York artists is that like
Speaker 2: the first market? Is that that is for me too?
Speaker 2: Like Philly was the first? Then Connecticut, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6: And see and look how you said that Philly was
Speaker 6: the next, and then Connecticut. Connecticut is right on top,
Speaker 6: like right there next to the Bronx. Philly would get
Speaker 6: it first. Philly would hit you first if you did
Speaker 6: New York in Philly, Connecticut Yonkers all up Boston was
Speaker 6: trying to see you. Maybe some of the South like that.
Speaker 6: So going down the I, I and five, man was like,
Speaker 6: I mean, big up the VA, North Kaka, Lax, South Carolina.
Speaker 6: It was sort of like a rights of passage. You
Speaker 6: had to get out of New York, go down each city,
Speaker 6: each state on the I nine to five, and your
Speaker 6: final victory was Miami if you made it down.
Speaker 3: Yeah you talking about Oh man, see this what MC's
Speaker 3: was real? Straight up.
Speaker 6: You had to do clubs. Let me take you to
Speaker 6: the nineties. Let's come around ninety two. That's what I'm
Speaker 6: somewhere around nineties.
Speaker 3: Right around there, college was just starting. He had a
Speaker 3: thing called the Temple before that, even before that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: mother Superior.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, actually I got you know who war is.
Speaker 5: No, he's this guy who interviews people and he brings
Speaker 5: out props that would remind you of stuff.
Speaker 1: I okay, this.
Speaker 4: Is what I got. Show.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise tennis ball.
Speaker 3: That's my autograph too.
Speaker 1: It's authentic, authentic, So you put that on e BIT.
Speaker 5: It was a show supposed to be at the spot
Speaker 5: Cast underground compound and it got shut down by the cops.
Speaker 4: And we moved it to Zulu headquarters. That's right. There
Speaker 4: was no the AC wasn't on.
Speaker 3: We took the people were faking in the audio. It
Speaker 3: was one of that.
Speaker 4: And he started throwing these balls. That was crazy.
Speaker 6: That was ninety three four.
Speaker 4: I was in high schools, like ninety two, ninety three at.
Speaker 3: The least, at the least, right, well, let's start it
Speaker 3: right there. That's what was.
Speaker 1: He been coming to Miami since then.
Speaker 6: Since then, breaking it down, crushing Miami.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a hip hop scene out here back then.
Speaker 6: Well back then, Luke was the man out here. Two
Speaker 6: Live Crew was straight just straw in the South like
Speaker 6: was there was nothing else really happening, to be honest
Speaker 6: with you. But there was always that boom back element
Speaker 6: in I mean just I just have to say Florida
Speaker 6: because you know from Miami all the way up to
Speaker 6: what Tallahassee, even even Gainesville, Jacksonville or that boom bap
Speaker 6: that that's all hard core op then.
Speaker 5: But Luke, but there was that divide it for us
Speaker 5: in the city between the fay scene and the n scene.
Speaker 6: That's right, there wasn't divide. I mean, it had its
Speaker 6: own audience. You know what I'm saying. It had its
Speaker 6: own It.
Speaker 5: Was seen a lot as a New York thing, right,
Speaker 5: but we were trying to build that identity for ourselves.
Speaker 6: But I think it was way smaller. But I think
Speaker 6: the New York thing was way smaller. Two Live Crew
Speaker 6: Luke Luke that whole sound.
Speaker 2: So you're saying from the beginning, when Tu Live Coup came,
Speaker 2: the South immediately accepted them as opposed to new in
Speaker 2: New York. You had to be hot in New York first. No,
Speaker 2: actually you go to Philly. Wait a minute, the second
Speaker 2: part is true. Yes, you had to be hot in
Speaker 2: New York first to go to Philly. With the exception
Speaker 2: of like Tap Money three Times, Dove, Steady b even
Speaker 2: Jazzy Cheff, Fresh Prince Uh, they blew up in Philly
Speaker 2: and convinced New York what it was.
Speaker 6: But you have back then the base scene. I'm trying
Speaker 6: to think of dudes that were not so popular, but
Speaker 6: Miami had a base scene that let me come on,
Speaker 6: that's right, and there were these dudes with.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 6: So Lutha Campbell and Two Live Crew was on top
Speaker 6: of that. They came up out of that scene. They
Speaker 6: didn't really invent it, but they was just sort of
Speaker 6: the the popular ones that that that was doing it,
Speaker 6: and Luke was just I went to one of these
Speaker 6: concerts one night, Yo.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe what was going on.
Speaker 6: And then on top of that, what makes it really
Speaker 6: really hip hop on on on that level is that
Speaker 6: two Live Crew was was the ones that were dragged
Speaker 6: into court on obscenity charges and had they lost that case,
Speaker 6: rock would be sounding a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Let's make no noise for that happen. Pick yet out.
Speaker 2: Even when you roll in the blunt man, stop and
Speaker 2: clap your hands, all right.
Speaker 1: You got the blast master in the building, all right, So.
Speaker 2: You got that, you got that, that that thing, and
Speaker 2: I want to set up alright, play that, play that
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 1: I want to play something for you.
Speaker 2: One of the one of the greatest calls I ever
Speaker 2: got in my life, and it set up as it's
Speaker 2: cool hurt, what's uping brother? That's right, My brother was
Speaker 2: going on. Man, I just missed your call. Man, Man,
Speaker 2: I got you on speaker for him right now.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Let them let them dudes know baby, Let them dudes
Speaker 2: know you the godfather that hip hop cool Hurt, not.
Speaker 6: Number one.
Speaker 1: That's right, baby, you the original o G. Yeah, that's right. Baby.
Speaker 1: You know I love you absolutely, you know I love
Speaker 1: you to death. Cool work man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: All right, baby, hold on, I'm gonna take this off
Speaker 2: of the system and you can speak private.
Speaker 1: But yo, man, just let the people know one more time.
Speaker 1: This is my Dyslexia album. Man, tell them niggas.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, I got an album called Dyslexia, man.
Speaker 1: Thank you man.
Speaker 2: This this, this is the godfather, Cool Hurt of the
Speaker 2: game speaking to y'all, fucking assholes. Cool Hurt right here,
Speaker 2: the father, not the godfather.
Speaker 4: Secondary you got father, the father?
Speaker 2: All right, my brother, hold on, I gonna hit you
Speaker 2: right back, I Hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2: So one day I got a call from Cool Hurt, okay, right, which.
Speaker 1: Is for me. I'm a real hip hop guy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I respect everything that came before me. And when Cool
Speaker 2: Hurt called me, I had call him something.
Speaker 1: I said, you're the godfather of hip hop.
Speaker 2: And I said it once and he let us lie,
Speaker 2: and then I said it again and he let us lie.
Speaker 1: But then the third time I said it, I.
Speaker 2: Said, Cork, let these motherfuckers know you the godfather of
Speaker 2: hip hop.
Speaker 1: He said, normal, hold on, let me stop you. I
Speaker 1: am the father. Do you agree with that statement? Yes,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with the statement.
Speaker 6: There's huge debate on it, okay, because everyone wants to
Speaker 6: take credit for hip hop now for its origins, we called,
Speaker 6: technically to be scholarly correct, Coolhark is called the recognized
Speaker 6: father of hip hop, the recognized father of hip hop.
Speaker 6: We call him the father of hip hop, all right.
Speaker 6: And the reason we call him the father of hip
Speaker 6: hop is because Bam called him the father of hip hop.
Speaker 6: Grandmaster Kaz called him the father of hip hop, Peewee Dance,
Speaker 6: and Grandmaster Flash from this group called him the father
Speaker 6: of hip hop. Now, this is a family situation. All
Speaker 6: these guys, we all know each other and they.
Speaker 1: But you're their younger homies.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, no doubt, no doubt. Her calls me the
Speaker 6: son of hip hop.
Speaker 2: Listen, because okay, let me break it down for me,
Speaker 2: right for me, all right, for me. When I heard
Speaker 2: her say that he was the father, I automatically saluted
Speaker 2: that never and then I thought of Bambata as the godfather,
Speaker 2: and then I think of you Rock Kim, Big Daddy
Speaker 2: Kane as the father's right and then then after that
Speaker 2: comes Wu Tang like where are your little cousins, Wu Tang,
Speaker 2: Mob Deep the Fat, Joe's the component, Noriega's the mop.
Speaker 2: We're actually your sons direct like I don't know Pauls.
Speaker 2: I know New Generation, but you're actually our father, like.
Speaker 1: You rock him Big Daddy Kane.
Speaker 2: And so I have to ask this question with that
Speaker 2: being said, with the name being like.
Speaker 1: How how is hip hop supposed to respond to the bambada?
Speaker 1: Like how are we supposed to do that?
Speaker 3: What you want to take it from?
Speaker 2: I just don't know. That's why it said generic question,
Speaker 2: what should we do? Because you being our father? Sure,
Speaker 2: whatever you say, I have to move accordance to it.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, with the first of all, controversy is
Speaker 6: not truth. What you want is truth right now? You
Speaker 6: want truth? But truth is also not information. It's not gossip.
Speaker 6: It's not even conversation.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 6: If you keep it hip hop, nothing could be taken
Speaker 6: away from Africa.
Speaker 3: At all. Just keep it hip hop.
Speaker 6: But if you want to dig in the dude's personal
Speaker 6: life and accusations that's being made and so on. Personally, Me, personally,
Speaker 6: I don't give a flock personally. Look if somebody was
Speaker 6: harmed or whatever was done or whatever, y'all deal with
Speaker 6: that ship?
Speaker 3: What what deal with it?
Speaker 6: That don't stop hip hop, that don't stop, take away
Speaker 6: none of the history's history. But deal with your deal
Speaker 6: with that? That's personal. I don't you know, I don't
Speaker 6: even know what to set past the no. But even
Speaker 6: if you knew the facts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: A person like me, I deal with with dudes that
Speaker 6: are questionable all the time, not just if if the
Speaker 6: accusation is rape. I I know dudes that are doing
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. If you if you know
Speaker 6: anybody from prison, if you don't anything to shelter, if
Speaker 6: you know anybody, if you live really in the hoods,
Speaker 6: you know shooters, you know dudes running from the you
Speaker 6: know your man might have an open warrant on them
Speaker 6: right now, like right now, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You know I'm not nudging these motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Man, it's my nigga right here, Yo. That's it. Now.
Speaker 6: What you do and your crime and your ship and
Speaker 6: your bullshit. Whatever you do it, that's on you. That's you,
Speaker 6: my ge, that's whatever you're doing. That's how I always
Speaker 6: dealt with I can't pick and choose. Say, Yo, this
Speaker 6: dude right here, I mean I was producing Justice album.
Speaker 2: Right, Who's crazy? I heard he came to Queen's Bridge
Speaker 2: by hisself?
Speaker 1: Is this story true?
Speaker 3: Yes it is.
Speaker 2: Let's make some just like every change the subject too.
Speaker 1: I was the subject. Let's go yeah.
Speaker 3: But I mean here was on America's Most wanted Is.
Speaker 1: This is real?
Speaker 3: This is real hip hop? Shot man.
Speaker 6: Hip hop is in the world like everybody else, like
Speaker 6: every other culture.
Speaker 3: We in the world.
Speaker 4: Politicians with dirty.
Speaker 2: Politicians with bottom line is we we We are humans, humans,
Speaker 2: We are all humans. But now with that being said, right,
Speaker 2: what is your favorite EMC battle, Because I mean you
Speaker 2: don't have to, you can include yourself if you want to.
Speaker 2: But what is your favorite MC battle?
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 6: This this is que that I.
Speaker 1: Really whichever comes to the top of your head.
Speaker 6: The first one that comes to my head is Freeway
Speaker 6: in Cassidy.
Speaker 2: For me, Let's make some noise knowing what's going on?
Speaker 2: Do you know what's going on in the streets.
Speaker 6: No, No, that that's I mean, it's an old battle.
Speaker 6: But if you talk about showmanship, you know, instant rhymes
Speaker 6: on deck right there?
Speaker 4: That was hot.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I got to ask you about the Drake
Speaker 1: and meek Mill?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: How did you like?
Speaker 3: Did you like?
Speaker 1: It? Was it? It isn't your?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 1: Even at twenty battles?
Speaker 6: I think I think it gave both of them credibility
Speaker 6: in what way? I well, because for me as an MC,
Speaker 6: like like when people say top five, Okay, everybody got
Speaker 6: their top five.
Speaker 3: Everybody, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But if you ain't battle, if you ain't did tours,
Speaker 6: if you ain't putting no hits out, if you ain't
Speaker 6: put somebody else on or came from a legacy that
Speaker 6: was wild, you ain't even nowhere near the top five. So, dudes,
Speaker 6: is like, I'm looking for young cats today to really
Speaker 6: rise up to the criteria. First, First, where's your battle?
Speaker 6: You say, you dope, bring it right now? Because this
Speaker 6: nigga's like me out here, like straight up, I stay
Speaker 6: stay hungry. So you claim you hungry, you claim oh yo,
Speaker 6: I'm the mayor humming this and now today with social media,
Speaker 6: you could claim anything and everybody. So with Draking males,
Speaker 6: to me, it gave them the credibility that they needed
Speaker 6: for even me to get them as real mcs. I
Speaker 6: like both of these lyrics. By the way, Drake I
Speaker 6: think is underrated in terms of because maybe he's doing
Speaker 6: the pop thing or whatever, but his lyrics is still
Speaker 6: dope from an MC perspective.
Speaker 2: Now let me I don't I don't want to cut
Speaker 2: you off, but there's been allegations that he had help
Speaker 2: on his lyrics.
Speaker 1: Writers, you, how do you feel?
Speaker 2: I'm very curious of this look, but because you do
Speaker 2: come from a day where people were writing Bizmarck lyrics
Speaker 2: right and biz Mark was upfront about it ice Cube said,
Speaker 2: he said, ice Cube write the rhymes that I say,
Speaker 2: and to me, he was one of the most killer there.
Speaker 2: So how did you feel when you found out that
Speaker 2: Drake might have had some help.
Speaker 6: Was that doesn't disturb me at all. It diminishes him
Speaker 6: in front of those that write their own lyrics. Okay,
Speaker 6: now those of us just spit the raw from our
Speaker 6: own heart. You really got to step up and come
Speaker 6: up to the played on that level. But we're talking
Speaker 6: about m seeing as a whole art, talk about rap
Speaker 6: as a whole art. No, if you got a dope
Speaker 6: writer that can make you sound like something, God ahead
Speaker 6: and get with dude. The issue is writing. This is
Speaker 6: the issue writing dope rhymes. I don't give a funk
Speaker 6: where it comes from.
Speaker 3: Writer whoever.
Speaker 6: Some of the dopest dudes and I'm not gonna call
Speaker 6: no names rhymes.
Speaker 4: You say, Yo, it's like there's secrets in hip hop.
Speaker 6: Okay, the dopest dudes and dude right for them, that's
Speaker 6: not a problem. Now me, I never had the privilege
Speaker 6: of anyone writing for me. Okay, I you know.
Speaker 1: You're too smart.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you. Let me tell you. If rock
Speaker 6: Kim came to me with a rhyme, I just say.
Speaker 1: That ship this is crazy.
Speaker 3: I say that this is crazy.
Speaker 2: Ike you listen, Drake sent me to check.
Speaker 1: I have just said you just saved you.
Speaker 2: You are that cool and every community y krs has
Speaker 2: set it on a drink chest podcast.
Speaker 6: And he's okay, No, I'm okay, look, not real spinners,
Speaker 6: that right, they rhymes.
Speaker 4: It'll never be okay with real spinners, it right?
Speaker 6: They shit Okay, but that's our lane, that's our category.
Speaker 6: That's a level of excellence that you have to get to. Okay, now,
Speaker 6: but my issue is, look, here's the opposite. Some dude
Speaker 6: write your rhymes and they whack and you say them
Speaker 6: ships anyway. I heard dudes say why rhymes that they
Speaker 6: ain't even write. That's corny. Okay, But if you got
Speaker 6: a real shooter with you, dude is right and raw shit.
Speaker 6: Well make sure he paid the brother. Make sure he
Speaker 6: gets some credit at some point in your career. Say
Speaker 6: that ship, say that dope shit. Hip hop needs dope lyrics.
Speaker 6: We don't need dope MC's understand, we need dope lyrics.
Speaker 6: We need to write. I don't care where it comes from.
Speaker 6: Your moms could write you some ship. That ship is
Speaker 6: don't lyrics.
Speaker 4: You're saying it's just a vessel.
Speaker 6: It's just the MC's or the vessel. Look, if you
Speaker 6: really get down to it, I don't write my own lyrics.
Speaker 6: God writes my lyrics, goddamn it.
Speaker 3: So if you.
Speaker 6: Think about it, none of us are writing our own lyrics.
Speaker 6: We all any MC that writes his lyrics. You know
Speaker 6: you're sitting there with the panda patter, whatever your phone,
Speaker 6: whatever it is, and you hum your ship out.
Speaker 3: You hear that ship from someplace else. You're like.
Speaker 1: Criminal mands, so I know what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: And DJ don't even start with that.
Speaker 6: You as producers, you hear the beats before you hit
Speaker 6: the thing. You know what you're gonna do before you
Speaker 6: do it. You hum it out, you bang it out,
Speaker 6: but you hear something. So no one is original, no
Speaker 6: art is original. We are all being influenced by everything
Speaker 6: and everyone. The corny motherfucker is the one who doesn't say, yo,
Speaker 6: my g wrote this. Give it three years, four years.
Speaker 6: You know you made some success after he got on
Speaker 6: speaking man, acknowledgement, acknowledge your dude, man, Yo, this is
Speaker 6: what it is. Hit him with his cash, yo. He
Speaker 6: know you know he helped you get where You gotta go.
Speaker 6: Hit him with his cash. Make sure he's good and
Speaker 6: his family is good. That's respecting hip hop. That's big
Speaker 6: respect Now in.
Speaker 2: This day, like a lot of the ogs, they'll sit
Speaker 2: back and they'll be like, you know, I don't like this,
Speaker 2: or do you listen to what's going on now?
Speaker 3: Or no. They had their chance, they're over finished. They
Speaker 3: had the chances. That ship is over. That ship so
Speaker 3: fu all that old school, all that shit's done.
Speaker 1: Ok you do listen to the new school?
Speaker 3: Or yeah, I listen to everything.
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, I listen to everything.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: I was just with my man La Sunshine. He put
Speaker 6: a book out. We was just kicking it up in
Speaker 6: the Bronx. That's my g right there, coum o D
Speaker 6: that's my G. Busy b No doubt. These are my dogs,
Speaker 6: no doubt. But let me let me let me see
Speaker 6: Joey badass right now, let me see you know. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, like like I don't want
Speaker 6: to call names, but I'm just.
Speaker 1: Saying you can.
Speaker 3: Let me just say.
Speaker 6: Please please, you know, but no, I listen to everything, man,
Speaker 6: I just yeah, I just absorb it at all.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you having that attitude because now I
Speaker 2: am They call me a og. Now thirty eight years old.
Speaker 2: You know hip hop was born in what yeah.
Speaker 3: Hip hop, Well, seventy three is a scholarly seventy three.
Speaker 1: I was born in seventy seven. So now they calling
Speaker 1: me a og.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: And I want to sit back and I want to
Speaker 2: give back to this life. So we we we're doing
Speaker 2: this podcast. I want to give people like you a
Speaker 2: platform to say whatever the fuck you want to see
Speaker 2: anytime you yeah.
Speaker 7: We don't get another drink.
Speaker 1: First off, this has been one of my.
Speaker 2: Uh accomplishments in life. You know, people got bucket lists.
Speaker 2: You know, You've always been a person that.
Speaker 1: I've learned from.
Speaker 2: Like, whether you know it direct or indirect. They ain't
Speaker 2: even asked me to pass the blank. Some foul people,
Speaker 2: but it's okay, I understand from kindle, so I'm not.
Speaker 1: Looking so you directly, you directly. Somebody said to.
Speaker 2: Me the other day, it's that jay Z and Jada
Speaker 2: Kiss raised me with their bars and they fucked me
Speaker 2: up because I was like, damn well.
Speaker 1: Then I always told.
Speaker 2: People, if you take care of as one and then
Speaker 2: you take a little bit of Biz mocky and a
Speaker 2: little bit of granddaddy I you, that's when you get
Speaker 2: in our e.
Speaker 1: But you notice I never took none of your styles.
Speaker 2: But I was like, all right, that's that's three totally
Speaker 2: different people.
Speaker 1: But that's who made.
Speaker 2: Me because you taught me that black is beautiful and
Speaker 2: be yourself. Biz taught me. Biz taught me life. Ain't
Speaker 2: that serious, homie? How so fucking fun? And then granddaddy
Speaker 2: you told me how to be exact opposite of him
Speaker 2: because he was so smooth, Like I feel like Granddaddy
Speaker 2: You was like.
Speaker 1: The cainge that never I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 2: It's my first interview ever smoking you know, big of
Speaker 2: haw King Green, My brother, my brother. Another legend is
Speaker 2: in the building, spark madism. Let's just get into that, man,
Speaker 2: how did spark madism come about?
Speaker 3: Damn Well?
Speaker 6: First of all, Hawk was a was a school teacher.
Speaker 1: No, I never knew that let's make some noise the school.
Speaker 1: What the teacher? Okay, what's the teacher?
Speaker 6: So he was one of the many teachers and professors
Speaker 6: I was rolling with about ninety three. Hot rolled up
Speaker 6: and said, yo, so he kept coming to my lectures.
Speaker 6: I was doing lectures around, so he kept coming to
Speaker 6: the lectures. So I said, you know, you look like
Speaker 6: you were MC. It looked like you know, you get there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He was just started that's right, little twists, and I said, Yo,
Speaker 6: you look like a MC. He was like, wow, how
Speaker 6: did you so make a long story short?
Speaker 3: I heard him.
Speaker 6: I loved it, but I said, the solo MC thing
Speaker 6: not going to work. We need two people. This is
Speaker 6: like Das's effects was hitting nice and smooth. Signed yes
Speaker 6: well technically to my wife Jem mad g Simone was
Speaker 6: running Front Page Records. Technically Korest was with the label
Speaker 6: Channel Live Mad Lion for a minute, even Fat Joe,
Speaker 6: But we was closing the label at the closing the
Speaker 6: company management company at the time when Joe just started
Speaker 6: to blow.
Speaker 3: We was just coming down.
Speaker 6: On on on that level, same thing with excuse me,
Speaker 6: praz and and no not before they would have oh yeah,
Speaker 6: actually the refuge geez it was just prose.
Speaker 1: And we had a chance to sign yes.
Speaker 6: We we we We did some of their first shows.
Speaker 6: You know, no, no, no, that was not no. We
Speaker 6: wasn't in no position whatsoever to deal with them. They
Speaker 6: they you could white Cluff used to pull out a
Speaker 6: guitar that he still does in the middle of a.
Speaker 3: He still doesn't.
Speaker 4: He just walking out like you know.
Speaker 6: We was like, you know what, you got ahead and
Speaker 6: uh but but it was dope. So anyway, we got
Speaker 6: in the studio and you know, I grew up in
Speaker 6: a herb culture, you know what I'm saying. I grew
Speaker 6: up in Flatbush, Brooklyn Church Avenue right there and Erasmus
Speaker 6: High School, wing Gate High School, shout out.
Speaker 4: The Prospect Park, the whole nine.
Speaker 6: So I grew up there in the seventies when you
Speaker 6: were born seventies seventy seven, I was in the parks.
Speaker 2: Memory, we went in Brooklyn and bro you're trying to
Speaker 2: get Brooklyn some process?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Hockey?
Speaker 3: So there we was in Flatbush.
Speaker 6: So I grew up in in in herb culture and
Speaker 6: not from the point of view like oh, we.
Speaker 3: Just gonna smoke mud.
Speaker 6: I was with with Rosters and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
Speaker 6: You had the Bible open, dudes was smoking towards the
Speaker 6: east chilice burned down room. Every time the childice burned,
Speaker 6: you had to say, yo. We was like in that
Speaker 6: culture for real. So it was like I grew up
Speaker 6: with like no problem, Like yo, burn the bud Why
Speaker 6: is no big deal? What moved up to the bronx
Speaker 6: when I became homeless, like around nineteen eighty one or two.
Speaker 6: So that story is true, you was, oh, yeah, no
Speaker 6: doubt about four years. That's how I met Scott Larad.
Speaker 6: Wow he was a social worker in the shelter. But
Speaker 6: we'll get back to that, okay.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: So I grew up in the culture.
Speaker 6: So for me, Peter Tash since nineteen seventy one was
Speaker 6: yelling for the legalization of marijuana. Since seventy one, everybody
Speaker 6: know that. You know, the judges are smoking, the cops smoke.
Speaker 6: The doctor's been saying, this is the safest plant. In fact,
Speaker 6: this is the healing of the nation. This right here,
Speaker 6: all timers, cancers, you name it.
Speaker 3: Herb is the healing for that.
Speaker 6: But now you got this tax issue, and you got
Speaker 6: this dude that don't want to give up their power.
Speaker 6: They get more money and more power selling it illegally.
Speaker 6: You really don't want the government selling weed. You really
Speaker 6: don't want that because the ideas that it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna get whack.
Speaker 6: It's like whatever the government put they they can't even
Speaker 6: teach English correctly, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: anything that the government puts his hand in, it starts
Speaker 6: to get sterough, it starts to get wag. You don't
Speaker 6: have no competition water it down. So dude is like, nah,
Speaker 6: we want to grow that shit right there in Mexico,
Speaker 6: right there, in Afghanistan right there up and now Colorado, Seattle.
Speaker 6: They just went rogue with it and just said, you
Speaker 6: know what, We're just going to do it. And I
Speaker 6: think it was done for the kids in the area
Speaker 6: because they're not locking their kids up, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They're not going to do that.
Speaker 6: They rather change the laws than see their kids in
Speaker 6: the family go through that. That's why I think it
Speaker 6: really got legalized. You could cite medical list or medical that,
Speaker 6: but really it's an issue of going to prison. Families
Speaker 6: have been ruined by just smoking a joint or having
Speaker 6: herb on you. This is a plant that grows in
Speaker 6: the world. Like, how is the government like even allowed
Speaker 6: to tell you how you should think? Like that's to
Speaker 6: be like like if I smoke butt and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I feel great on this, Why are you telling me
Speaker 6: I don't like the use of the word nigga for instance,
Speaker 6: same shit, this is my nigga right there. I know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, nigga, I got three PhDs, nigga, I
Speaker 6: write books, nigga. What I know what the fuck I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But Nah, black people ain't supposed to think. We're not
Speaker 6: supposed to have governance over our own mouth, over our
Speaker 6: own thinking. So if I tell you, listen when I
Speaker 6: say my nigga. I'm talking. I really mean my brother.
Speaker 6: Listen to how I say it, my nigga, that's my
Speaker 6: brother right there.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: I just told you what it is. The problem is
Speaker 6: there's no law in the United States made by black
Speaker 6: people that white people are bound to respect. Imagine we
Speaker 6: follow all their laws. What law they follow of ours?
Speaker 6: There's no Latino brother the kings. I said, look, this
Speaker 6: is what helps Latino people right here, y'all. We want blacks, whites, everybody.
Speaker 6: You're gonna follow our laws. We follow the Constitution, we
Speaker 6: follow state ordinances.
Speaker 3: All that's white law.
Speaker 6: But here's now the Native American law while we not. Nah,
Speaker 6: this country's not built on following anybody else's law except
Speaker 6: their own. And when it comes to marijuana, it becomes
Speaker 6: an issue of freedom of thought, like this is how
Speaker 6: I think. Do you have the right to tell me
Speaker 6: what state of mind I should be into? Like, no,
Speaker 6: this is the state of mind that I feel I
Speaker 6: should be in. And as a matter of fact, the
Speaker 6: US Constitution, it's federal law to be happy in the
Speaker 6: United States. The pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit
Speaker 6: of happiness.
Speaker 1: So if you get happiness, that's illegal.
Speaker 6: If you're sad and depressed in the US, you broke
Speaker 6: federal law. Wow, you broke federal law. The government should
Speaker 6: be doing the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 3: The spirit of it.
Speaker 6: It's all about liberty, justice, freedom, happiness for all. The
Speaker 6: pursuit of happiness is law.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change it up real quick.
Speaker 2: Come on, a crazy hip hop story is you went
Speaker 2: to the Palladium and you three PM down off the stage.
Speaker 1: I gotta get this story that makes a noise story.
Speaker 1: You yo, that's really like you. You've been my hero.
Speaker 2: But like it's like that's when I made my choice
Speaker 2: from Malcolm and Martin. It was like Martin, like I
Speaker 2: still think Mario was killing people at night, like when
Speaker 2: he went.
Speaker 1: Like I think I still think mar was a shoot up,
Speaker 1: Like I'm.
Speaker 2: Still in my heart, in my heart. But but Malcolm,
Speaker 2: Malcolm was like, straight up, I'm gonna shoot you back.
Speaker 1: So when Chris.
Speaker 2: Chris, I'm very I feel like I'm honored to So
Speaker 2: I felt like the minute you threw PM down on stages, like, yes,
Speaker 2: he could teach me and he'll still we.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 3: That's exactly.
Speaker 2: So what did he do for you to throw him
Speaker 2: off the stage? I never really got that part of
Speaker 2: the story.
Speaker 3: Well, if you want the scholarly approach.
Speaker 6: Approach, okay, yeah, yeah, So dude start mouthing off in
Speaker 6: Details magazine. Okay, now this is now, this is the
Speaker 6: mood that we're in. Around this time, I think I
Speaker 6: forgot what year.
Speaker 3: This was eighty eight? No, no, no, oh no, it
Speaker 3: was ninety two. Ninety two. Okay, it's ninety two, and
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 6: It the Pladium was No, it wasn't the play It
Speaker 6: was a small club in Manhattan. I don't remember that.
Speaker 6: It was one of them clubs that had like car wash.
Speaker 3: Was it wasn't.
Speaker 6: That wasn't the name of the of the place. That's
Speaker 6: just the name of the night, the night right it was.
Speaker 6: It sounds fast, so sound factory.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait a minute, Now here's the mood of it.
Speaker 3: Ninety two.
Speaker 6: Okay, around this time, this is when, like you said,
Speaker 6: knowledge was just hitting hip hop. Hip hop was some
Speaker 6: ignorant as. Okay, of course you did have run DMC,
Speaker 6: you had Houdini, you had those who are actually rocking
Speaker 6: on on a supposedly more intelligent level, especially Run DMC
Speaker 6: with it's like that and and all type of records.
Speaker 2: It's going to salute you in the mid interview. Just
Speaker 2: do that, Okay, you know what I'm saying. First off,
Speaker 2: you know the viewers to know caras One is drinking
Speaker 2: of my time and drinking.
Speaker 1: With a drink.
Speaker 2: If you have traveled, you probably don't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck of my tie is. Okay, So this is you got.
Speaker 2: This is a Hawaii drink. I would like to you
Speaker 2: continue to drink. That's how you know.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm making money for long he was in Tahiti
Speaker 3: or something. I mean I'm with this ship.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, thank you for thank you for coming again.
Speaker 3: Thanks opening your door. Okay. So anyway, so anyway, so
Speaker 3: so the mood and nothing.
Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm gonna get you later though. Look this
Speaker 6: this mood this time is when I had just put
Speaker 6: out you must learn to stop the violence movement?
Speaker 3: Why is that?
Speaker 1: And then what is what's the door?
Speaker 3: And joint?
Speaker 1: What's the joint?
Speaker 3: He got out?
Speaker 1: I don't know why why did.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't just me.
Speaker 1: Well he did say he tested more people. Yes, okay.
Speaker 6: In his Details magazine he had said something pertaining to
Speaker 6: the fact he said n w A is nothing. Chuck
Speaker 6: d is making mountains out of mole hills, and chaos.
Speaker 6: One is chaos. One wants to be a teacher, but
Speaker 6: a teacher of what. And for me it didn't matter
Speaker 6: for me, but Chuck at the time was receiving death
Speaker 6: threats because of the controversy with Griff. Griffith had the
Speaker 6: Jewish comments, griff had made a statement, so Public Enemy
Speaker 6: was under real heat in America. Okay, and this dude
Speaker 6: just sold like a million records, so I had a
Speaker 6: really good year, you know, selling records. So he's just
Speaker 6: mouthing off like it's our time now these these.
Speaker 3: Dudes.
Speaker 4: Story about you know, these dudes is over.
Speaker 6: N w A, Ain't you nothing, Chuck de Public Enemy
Speaker 6: ain't saying nothing.
Speaker 3: Ka arrest this. So I let it go for a minute.
Speaker 1: So this, this was like over months.
Speaker 6: This no, no, no, no, this is over a peer and
Speaker 6: it wasn't just him. So I had also a little
Speaker 6: running with X Clan around the same time. Okay, me
Speaker 6: and ex Clan were going back and forth with with
Speaker 6: I mean brother Jay.
Speaker 3: Was you know, calling me Captain human.
Speaker 1: And this that and the other.
Speaker 6: Well it wasn't that wasn't directed to us, but it
Speaker 6: was them yeah and if and if you're battling me,
Speaker 6: then maybe it was wow. So there was ex clam
Speaker 6: bam chilled it all out back then was right, okay,
Speaker 6: So he cooled.
Speaker 3: It all out.
Speaker 6: We had a press conference and just kissed the maid up.
Speaker 6: That was into that cool. But there were others dudes
Speaker 6: in the hood. They for some reason, they felt people
Speaker 6: felt that if you come out advocating.
Speaker 3: Peace, knowledge, wisdom.
Speaker 6: I was coming with you somehow we're supposed to be
Speaker 6: soft or somehow, well you're gonna run up or I don't.
Speaker 4: Know what it was.
Speaker 6: And I was naive because all my dudes was straight gangsters.
Speaker 6: Like I'm talking about. I'm trying to take dudes off
Speaker 6: the street. Convince them, yo, we can go on tour. Man,
Speaker 6: you ain't got to do this. You ain't got to
Speaker 6: do that. Dudes is like, Yo, if you can show
Speaker 6: me another way out of here, we could do this.
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to take these dudes and we're trying
Speaker 6: to leave the hood. Okay, we're trying to be positive.
Speaker 6: We got to stop the violence.
Speaker 3: Movement is let's get to Okaysha baba.
Speaker 6: He just got finished with ex clan with that Lynch
Speaker 6: Mob had made a statement ice Cube self destruction, don't
Speaker 6: pay the fucking rent.
Speaker 1: This is after something.
Speaker 3: Something, this is after all, this is what it is.
Speaker 8: Him.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stop the violence.
Speaker 6: And so for some reason they thought it was soft
Speaker 6: in my corner and.
Speaker 1: So PM doing is not from New York correct, No,
Speaker 1: what is?
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: And so I want to know the altercation.
Speaker 6: What did you say something to him or just no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: No no, this is what happened.
Speaker 6: So he made his allegation, and he made some other
Speaker 6: allegation on the radio or something like that about he
Speaker 6: was ready to battle or something or some kind of
Speaker 6: lyrical something.
Speaker 3: So I was like, great, let's just take it right
Speaker 3: there and leave it there.
Speaker 6: You calling my name out? What I got to do
Speaker 6: with you. I'm doing my own thing over here. But
Speaker 6: he was riding a wave that was saying that groups
Speaker 6: like NWA, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, they bullshit and
Speaker 6: we this shit, right hood dudes, this bullshit, this is
Speaker 6: the news shit. And so there was a big party
Speaker 6: for Team Money back in the day's tea Money was
Speaker 6: a your MTV raps host with Ed Love and Doctor Trey.
Speaker 6: Big party in New York. Everybody in the industry was there,
Speaker 6: which is why we had two chances. He was gonna
Speaker 6: play in somewhere. He was gonna play with his own show.
Speaker 6: He was gonna either go there or we could go
Speaker 6: right here to Manhattan where it was popping. And we said,
Speaker 6: you know what, let's do Manhattan because the industry is there.
Speaker 6: This is Tea Money's birthday party. We said, you know what,
Speaker 6: let's set it straight real quick.
Speaker 3: Right there.
Speaker 6: A couple of other dudes was in the crowd. They
Speaker 6: was called yourko rest ain't shill? What the fun that?
Speaker 6: They went in the crowd too. So when I got there,
Speaker 6: we were so amped, like we was just so And
Speaker 6: when I say we and again, I don't want to
Speaker 6: call no names and put nobody on the line, but
Speaker 6: you know, just the color of the story and give
Speaker 6: you some background on it. So it was me. There
Speaker 6: was justice. Queen Latifa. Latifa had her crew, naughty by nature,
Speaker 6: Naughty had they.
Speaker 1: Crew because he did naughty and and and them too and.
Speaker 3: Them two well, no, no, no, they were just there
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 6: This is the early days of flavoring n this is
Speaker 6: the early days, early Okay, they all kiddy like, yo,
Speaker 6: when do we go?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: So you set it up? You know. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that is a trend
Speaker 2: now when a person has a beef with somebody, they
Speaker 2: booked them for a show, and then when the person
Speaker 2: that come out, they'll do one or two songs and then.
Speaker 1: They bum rush the ship. But you set that trend.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what, Yes, I don't know if we
Speaker 6: didn't mean to, but you set the trend.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise.
Speaker 3: Look, he so we went up.
Speaker 6: It wasn't a setup in the sense that we knew
Speaker 6: we were gonna go there, but we knew we had
Speaker 6: two choices and it was like the day before, so
Speaker 6: we chose this one.
Speaker 2: So did you actually talk to him prior to No, No, no,
Speaker 2: you just waited for him to just.
Speaker 6: Waited for As a matter of fact, the word had
Speaker 6: gotten out because I said, yo, I'm here a battle.
Speaker 6: It wasn't about throwing nobody off stage. Listen, I'm still
Speaker 6: stopped the violence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like this, that's why it was a controversy.
Speaker 6: So when I jumped up what happened was I think
Speaker 6: one of his boys or something. He had a little
Speaker 6: crew with him and somebody with him. So when we
Speaker 6: jumped on stage, I remember a super Cat. I can't
Speaker 6: even fuck up man super Cat. He said, Chris, let
Speaker 6: me go on first month, let me go on first
Speaker 6: mine before you do thatt me wan first.
Speaker 3: I was like yo, and Cat went on. He did
Speaker 3: his thing. Then PM doing went on.
Speaker 6: We let him get through one song and then we
Speaker 6: all jumped on this stage. It's like, yo, let's battle.
Speaker 6: Let's get it popping right now. So the whole crowd
Speaker 6: was like, oh, let's go. But something happened is man,
Speaker 6: somebody jumped out. It was like, fuck that trying to
Speaker 6: do some ship. It was like, yo, fuck that. We
Speaker 6: were all shoot this my nigga one and't fuck that
Speaker 6: through them niggas off the stage.
Speaker 3: That's what it want. Fuck that, no ship.
Speaker 2: Yoh, Trey AF just did that tow I love Cannon
Speaker 2: in New York, in New York. This is the fact
Speaker 2: I love I love I love my Cannon. I love
Speaker 2: for Troy AF. But when it happened, immediately, now you
Speaker 2: are so I immediately when I seenked it, I said
Speaker 2: this is I don't even think Troy af know that
Speaker 2: this originated from that very moment. Like if you disrespect
Speaker 2: and you come to the person town, you are liable
Speaker 2: to go off the stage and drinks is liable to
Speaker 2: throw at you, and you were allowed to feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: But you started that trending and applaud you for that, sir,
Speaker 2: Come on one more time, everybody, being.
Speaker 5: That we're on the topic of self destruction, stopped the violence.
Speaker 5: One thing that I've always wondered, why do you think
Speaker 5: that we haven't been able to recreate those movements in
Speaker 5: hip hop? Because when that came out and we're on
Speaker 5: the same game came out those records, they were cool to.
Speaker 4: The youth at the time. We love those records. We
Speaker 4: knew the lyrics.
Speaker 3: But see the people I.
Speaker 5: Know you've been doing, You've done, You've continued to do
Speaker 5: those records, but they haven't touched the pulse of the
Speaker 5: youth anymore.
Speaker 6: Now hip hop is not conscious, Okay, Like people got
Speaker 6: to understand that hip hop it's raw essence. That ship
Speaker 6: has got a ghetto. Hip hop is ignorant. Okay, that
Speaker 6: ship is I'm that and it's core. That ship is
Speaker 6: raw ignorance, man, just straight up. But all the best
Speaker 6: things come out of that shit. Okay, the darkness. That's
Speaker 6: where the best ship comes from. Out of this ship. Look,
Speaker 6: it takes feces to make things grow. All we eating
Speaker 6: is ship.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: It is the most honest.
Speaker 6: So that's why I say, go back to the movement
Speaker 6: when we did those records, stop the violence and self destruction.
Speaker 6: Look at the dudes that were doing them. Those were
Speaker 6: street du That's why we love Okay, that's why right.
Speaker 6: But now all them dudes got shot up and went
Speaker 6: to jail. Nobody there's no one else, Like maybe some
Speaker 6: younger kids today or maybe some of the younger artists today,
Speaker 6: if they care about their community.
Speaker 3: When we were coming up.
Speaker 6: With gangs and excuse me and cruise and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: we cared about the community still, Like we would still
Speaker 6: smack a young kid up and be like, Yo, you
Speaker 6: better go to school, motherfucker. I know your moms. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. You would still get gangs like that.
Speaker 6: Today it's too individualistic. Even dude to a real gangsters,
Speaker 6: they not really in the hood. They do they gangster
Speaker 6: on the phone. They they pushing they thing through on
Speaker 6: different mediums. Now, we didn't have none of this shit
Speaker 6: when we was coming up.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to cut you off, but you know what
Speaker 2: the crazy shit is. I just thought about it, like
Speaker 2: you know hip hop. We got our own little version
Speaker 2: of chitpling circuit, like where you go. So back then
Speaker 2: in the nineties, I'll say in ninety seven ninety eight,
Speaker 2: I had to go to Virginia. I had to go
Speaker 2: to North Carolina, and when the dude told me, yo,
Speaker 2: I run the block, I had the choices. It was
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds, not fifteen seconds on the internet, but it's
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds that I had to say I believe him
Speaker 2: or I fucking don't. Right, we didn't have Instagram like
Speaker 2: right now, dude, we were like, yo, I run the town.
Speaker 1: Check my Instagram. Check them that shit don't fucking register
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, cause they don't have
Speaker 2: a picture with like you know, whoever's the popper popular
Speaker 2: people at the time.
Speaker 1: But back then in the nineties, I had to go
Speaker 1: to a.
Speaker 2: Town and I had to make a decision in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2: When the dude caught me in foot locker and said,
Speaker 2: you're Norri I run the town. Fuck with me and
Speaker 2: I had to study with you.
Speaker 4: To do.
Speaker 1: Sometimes these guy's lying, they're good, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the times they're official.
Speaker 2: You don't have time to go look at and nowadays
Speaker 2: and google them.
Speaker 1: When I go to a.
Speaker 2: Town now they'll be like, yo, go get with such
Speaker 2: and such, and I gotta look at this guy's Instagram.
Speaker 2: But it was real and and your generations before mines.
Speaker 1: So how was that like? Just traveling the US back then?
Speaker 6: You had to know people, man, you had to really know.
Speaker 6: Like what you just said right there brought me back
Speaker 6: to like, Okay, tell your story, Ice Tea, Okay, this
Speaker 6: is way.
Speaker 1: Back big of Ice Tea coming on the show.
Speaker 6: A shout out to Icy and Coco. This goes back
Speaker 6: to Darlen. Okay, this is first wife on the cover
Speaker 6: of Okay, Ice Tea, this is the realest dude ever.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: I don't know what y'all know about TV and well
Speaker 6: I don't know what that ship is. Okay, But in
Speaker 6: the eighties Ron Syndicate in l a OA, you had
Speaker 6: to know these dudes or you wasn't playing.
Speaker 1: You said you couldn't even go to you couldn't even play.
Speaker 3: You couldn't even play date.
Speaker 6: Today you can book shows, you know, live national book.
Speaker 3: Couldn't ran in the hood. This ship is all good.
Speaker 6: No, back then, it was only dudes that were hustling
Speaker 6: that was booking rappers. So it was like you know,
Speaker 6: and and and it wasn't never no shit, it was not.
Speaker 6: It was actually the time. We always having a good time.
Speaker 6: It's like we've left.
Speaker 3: All the guns, all the product that shit, leave that
Speaker 3: ship down.
Speaker 6: Let's just go to Latin Quarters and have a good
Speaker 6: fucking time. Car Let's just go down to you know,
Speaker 6: the rooftop or or whatever feeve or whatever. Everybody just
Speaker 6: was like that. Everybody left their shit in the car.
Speaker 6: If there was any beef in the cub. You'd see
Speaker 6: dudes running outside today ride and that the ship would
Speaker 6: pop off in the parking lot. But we had to
Speaker 6: know people. You couldn't just be a rap. There were
Speaker 6: so many rappers that were dope on the mic and
Speaker 6: even had hit records, but they couldn't tour, They couldn't travel,
Speaker 6: you know, because back then people were still getting robbed
Speaker 6: for they change just the.
Speaker 3: Idea of wearing the gold chain.
Speaker 6: Well you know what I'm saying, you know, but look
Speaker 6: I tell you this on YouTube though now.
Speaker 4: And it's for YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's for YouTube now.
Speaker 6: You know MC search, you know far right, the third base.
Speaker 6: These were the only white dudes ever ever to walk
Speaker 6: in Latin Quarters with big gold on.
Speaker 2: Latin Quarters, the original Latin Quarters, because I went to
Speaker 2: stream Broadway on ninety six in Broadway, the original quarters.
Speaker 6: Was on forty eight Street and Broadway, across the street
Speaker 6: from Popeye's Chicken. We used to eat that bullshit and
Speaker 6: go across the street and tear that ship down. Nothing
Speaker 6: but hustlers in there. And if your rhymes was whack,
Speaker 6: you did not make it out like you without insults
Speaker 6: or sneaking scheming on you, or like you had to
Speaker 6: have security walk you out like you. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I took pride in that ship. I
Speaker 6: was like, fuck niggas, man, I'm getting this shit in
Speaker 6: right now. And they just loved, they loved my whole shit.
Speaker 6: And the point was was that we were spitting conscious shit.
Speaker 6: We called the reality rap yo, man, Fuck these cops,
Speaker 6: this court, this shit we were going through. Fuck the DA.
Speaker 6: These motherfuckers are corrupt. Let's talk about the government. That
Speaker 6: shit became conscious rap. All of a sudden in the nineties,
Speaker 6: the title switched right and now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: we were supposed to play this role of being conscious
Speaker 6: rappers who didn't fight or argue and this shit, and
Speaker 6: it was like, I never rested. I'm wrestled. I never
Speaker 6: settled this in my own career, you know me. I
Speaker 6: consider myself a god man straight up. I'm all about peace.
Speaker 6: But this world the minute you say you standing up
Speaker 6: for justice and wisdom, these dudes want to try to
Speaker 6: see you. And I love shit like that. I'm like,
Speaker 6: I'm God's like worst. I'm said here to make you
Speaker 6: think like, yo, that's that. You know we can get
Speaker 6: that dude right there, I'm like.
Speaker 3: You and ship changes in the dark.
Speaker 6: Come on, follow me down here, Yeah, and then see
Speaker 6: the skirt of wearing the skirt, come on, tell you, come.
Speaker 1: On, that's where I want to go.
Speaker 2: How did the b start with Shan a Regular? Was
Speaker 2: it the record or was it something on the side.
Speaker 2: I have to notice for my own because you're my
Speaker 2: favorite rapper.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know that we wanted to
Speaker 3: be down with hated you when you did the Bridges.
Speaker 2: I's got to be clear with you let me tell
Speaker 2: you something.
Speaker 4: You mean, any any killers and Queens.
Speaker 2: You made them, because I'm gonna tell you because you
Speaker 2: said we didn't. That's horrible, horrible, it's a great, it's
Speaker 2: a great, horrible thing, because you know why we had
Speaker 2: on records. Island at that time was the toughest place.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was the hard chorus place to go.
Speaker 1: And if you was from Queens, you would just.
Speaker 2: Walk by and people would be like Queens, right. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know if you started this,
Speaker 2: but you said I didn't hear a peak from a
Speaker 2: place called Queens, And we had to fight every each
Speaker 2: neow y'all nigga, every bra snaker. For niggas to be
Speaker 2: like Queens niggas is a fish like he just took
Speaker 2: out Shan. He didn't, damn, I wrote it that wrong,
Speaker 2: and she shanned, don't don't, don't blow me up, listen.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just being.
Speaker 3: Honest, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And at that time.
Speaker 2: You changed the face of hip hop because you single handedly.
Speaker 2: So I don't need to know how did this start?
Speaker 2: Was it beef with Marley? Was it beef with Shan?
Speaker 2: Was this this rock pum a sneaker?
Speaker 1: What was it, Chris, to make you go off like that?
Speaker 2: First off, we and queens didn't know it was a
Speaker 2: South bron We didn't know it was a North bron
Speaker 2: We just though it was the Bronx. So when all right,
Speaker 2: so I need to know this, this is from my
Speaker 2: own history.
Speaker 1: How did they start?
Speaker 3: Rest in Peace to mister Magic? Let me start right.
Speaker 6: Smoke right now, come on, man, come on, Rest in
Speaker 6: Peace to mister Magic. Okay, straight up. Now that's who
Speaker 6: started it.
Speaker 1: He started its magic, mister match.
Speaker 6: Rest in Peace. We wanted to be down with the
Speaker 6: Juice Crew. Let's start right there.
Speaker 2: So and this is Molly Ma, this is Magic, Okay,
Speaker 2: Magic and Molly.
Speaker 6: Magic was the first of all. There was another Juice
Speaker 6: Crew before matching. Let's name the original, the original Juice Crew.
Speaker 3: I was first.
Speaker 6: I don't know all of them. I think email Caz, Yeah,
Speaker 6: this is Juice Crew. Juice Crew out a disco fever.
Speaker 6: They the original Juice Crew. Magic was part of that crew, okay,
Speaker 6: So he kind of took the name. And the second
Speaker 6: generation came up, which was us, and so he named
Speaker 6: his crew the Juice Crew.
Speaker 3: But he is the only one with the ring.
Speaker 6: It was rings it was like thirteen rings that were
Speaker 6: given out for this Juice Crew, so hering one of his.
Speaker 3: He was one of these dudes with the ring.
Speaker 6: So he named the things Juice Crup with his man
Speaker 6: fly tie as well. Tyers was big, you know, with
Speaker 6: promotion and marketing, so the idea was battles were huge
Speaker 6: on the street anyway. If he was an MC, he
Speaker 6: was always battling your man. He was always in a
Speaker 6: cipher spitting shit. So that's what it was. But none
Speaker 6: of that was ever reflected in mainstream media and rap
Speaker 6: whatever run DMC. They was crushing shit, but they were
Speaker 6: still you know, wrapping. They were still like performers, you know.
Speaker 6: They It never was really what it was on the
Speaker 6: street level. So we went to Magic. We wanted to
Speaker 6: be part of the Juice Cree. We wanted to be
Speaker 6: produced by Mally mal Okay. But Magic was the Juice Crew.
Speaker 6: He's the one that put everybody down. So Rox Sane
Speaker 6: Chante just came off of a battle with UTFO Nice Battle.
Speaker 3: All these rock Sands came out of that battle.
Speaker 2: Big little Sister Fast team. While I went to school,
Speaker 2: Wow continued.
Speaker 6: Rock Sanshani came out UTFO Nice Battle so mc shan
Speaker 6: came out and dissed LL called him a beat vida
Speaker 6: because the word on the street was the LL bit,
Speaker 6: his stop, the kango Dadidas, the step pumas and the
Speaker 6: track suit, and in a way it looked just like
Speaker 6: L from the early days. If you look at early LL,
Speaker 6: it was some kind of similarity. So LLL was mad
Speaker 6: about that, I guess, and started going out. I'm not Ell,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Shan was mad at that and started going
Speaker 6: after LLLLLL never answered.
Speaker 4: Him, but I did.
Speaker 6: Because Magic took our demo. So the story goes, an
Speaker 6: engineer told us this we handed in. Our record was
Speaker 6: two records criminal Minded in elementary, oh and a record
Speaker 6: called Advance three records. We have got to advance three records.
Speaker 6: We gave it to him, they said, Magic said this
Speaker 6: is corny. No, we're not doing it, and supposedly flung
Speaker 6: it in the in the garbage. This is an engineer
Speaker 6: telling us. First of all, we couldn't even talk to Magic. Okay,
Speaker 6: he was not huge, Okay, security he was the man. Okay,
Speaker 6: we couldn't even see. We handed out. We handed dude
Speaker 6: the CD, threw somebody through somebody through somebody and the
Speaker 6: word got back, Yo, wack.
Speaker 3: Get a body here.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 6: So mind you. I'm a homeless in the street. I'm
Speaker 6: riding the train back and forth to D train. Scott
Speaker 6: land Rock is a social worker at the shelter. I
Speaker 6: get to you know, sometimes I'm at the shelter. Sometimes
Speaker 6: I'm not me and Justice was in the shelter together.
Speaker 6: So some nice we hang out all night. Some nights
Speaker 6: we get up a Scott. I had to go to
Speaker 6: work every day and worked there at that shelter. So
Speaker 6: we got back and Scott was like, yo, they said
Speaker 6: it was wat my g I was like, yo, why
Speaker 6: Shan is whack? How much my shit ain't whack? Wa.
Speaker 6: So I'm twenty, you know what I'm saying, twenty one twenty,
Speaker 6: I'm cocky, I'm arrogant. I'm already known in the Bronx.
Speaker 6: I'm a graffiti writer really named kr Rest and I'm
Speaker 6: writing on the six train and the five to two
Speaker 6: and the five we hitting the bus yards Ford and
Speaker 6: Rod bus yards. So I'm already on my shit in
Speaker 6: the graffiti world. And I was graffiti.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 6: I was on my ship bombing buses and trains, and
Speaker 6: we were trying to get into the rap deal, hopefully
Speaker 6: to get some money and get out the hood. They said,
Speaker 6: you whack, So I wrote I was. I wrote the
Speaker 6: Bridges Over first, before the south Brook, before the south Bronx.
Speaker 6: I wrote the Bridges Over because that was more my ship.
Speaker 6: I was on some reggae ship. So I was like, yo,
Speaker 6: I used to listen to shine Head. Actually was my inspiration,
Speaker 6: shine Hand. I used to listen to shine Hand. Michigan
Speaker 6: is Smiley yellow Man, Lieutenant Stitchy.
Speaker 3: Major Macronesia Man. I just go on.
Speaker 4: I used to blast all that.
Speaker 6: So he was like, see what are you doing this? Okay,
Speaker 6: So so it's like so I'm listening to all that.
Speaker 6: But Scott was like, First of all, Scott started to
Speaker 6: get down in his spirit because he had already shopped
Speaker 6: our music to everybody, and they all turned us down.
Speaker 6: They said it was too educated, too preachy. You don't
Speaker 6: sound like the rappers out here because we were talking
Speaker 6: about nuclear.
Speaker 3: Wall, the government this kind of thing. Was like, nah, rap, don't.
Speaker 2: Need I know about Illuminati because you I'm just so
Speaker 2: we were eighty four.
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you that anyway. So we was like,
Speaker 6: you know, nobody was gonna sign this. No one wanted us.
Speaker 6: So I was like, you know what, fuck it? I
Speaker 6: wrote the Bridges over. I said it to Scott. Scott
Speaker 6: was like, nah, man, because nobody's gonna gonna play that
Speaker 6: reggae ship. Nobody want to hear that ship. They want
Speaker 6: to hear like run DMC and this.
Speaker 2: So you're telling me the Bridges over was wrote before
Speaker 2: Shan actually dropped the bridge or no bridge out.
Speaker 6: No, the bridge was out, and I wrote the bridges over.
Speaker 2: All right, So now let me just tell you this
Speaker 2: is where you also crushed my dreams as a child.
Speaker 7: Fair as I read this, hip hop thought it out
Speaker 7: the job, I thought, even to the.
Speaker 2: Two, I'm a child, all right, I born in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy seven, right, what what year did Shan.
Speaker 1: Drop that record?
Speaker 3: That was like eighty six eighty six?
Speaker 1: So technically how old are if?
Speaker 6: Nine?
Speaker 4: Like ten? Nine years old?
Speaker 1: Nine?
Speaker 4: So I believe she as a nine year old?
Speaker 3: Well I don't.
Speaker 4: I've never been in Lebron.
Speaker 3: But wait a minute, here's the real of it.
Speaker 2: Okay, we both were wrong. Okay, wait, wait me and
Speaker 2: you or meet you and Shane, me and Shan. Okay,
Speaker 2: tell them.
Speaker 6: He said, you love to hear the story again and
Speaker 6: again how it all got started way back when the
Speaker 6: monument is right in your face.
Speaker 3: Sit and listen for a while. For the name of
Speaker 3: the place, the bridge. Okay, that caused the battle, that's what.
Speaker 1: Because you knew hip hop originated.
Speaker 2: I was going to one twenty three park watching BAM right,
Speaker 2: so now we as as as as we go. So
Speaker 2: it was that line that made you, well, no, it's magic,
Speaker 2: said we was garbage that made us fery. Combined with
Speaker 2: that line, well, that line was the excuse. But magic
Speaker 2: wasn't from Queen's Bridge.
Speaker 6: No magic is from magic. He's from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I think from Brooklyn. From Brooklyn. No, but but you
Speaker 1: hear this record and it bothers you.
Speaker 6: Why Well, first of all, magic justic us and and
Speaker 6: basically was hopping on the fact that his number one
Speaker 6: MC was this dude right here, mc shan.
Speaker 3: So being from the Bronx, hungry, broke poor.
Speaker 6: With nothing, we said, you know what, that's food right there,
Speaker 6: Let's go get him.
Speaker 1: This is crazy and so food.
Speaker 6: We said, yo, we wrote up. I wrote the bridges
Speaker 6: over first. Got didn't like it, said, no, nobody's listening. No,
Speaker 6: reggae ship. If you really want to go at dude,
Speaker 6: come with some ship.
Speaker 2: So the original Bridge is Over was a reggae Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, it was super Cat books boom boom boom boom
Speaker 3: boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 6: Big up the super Cat for that right, supercant a
Speaker 6: little left right for a little while. No O, that
Speaker 6: was I was all in the super Cat right there.
Speaker 6: And he had a record called said Bop Staying said
Speaker 6: go on and get him up, hey, say bo standing
Speaker 6: the boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
Speaker 6: boom boom boom. I was like, yes, put that to
Speaker 6: some boom back the same ship we used to do
Speaker 6: in the in the in the shelter, we used to
Speaker 6: hit the bathroom.
Speaker 3: He didn't like that.
Speaker 1: So then what happened?
Speaker 6: You went back and he put on this record, goes, hey,
Speaker 6: bro I got that good cheap a cheever boom boom
Speaker 6: boom boom, Hey bro I got that good cheeper Chief.
Speaker 6: You have to keep cutting that far out, So Scott's
Speaker 6: cutting that ship. I was like, way back in the
Speaker 6: days when hip hop began with coke LaRock wol Hurrican
Speaker 6: damn bam people. The Scott was like, oh yo, you
Speaker 6: need to come with that next like three days later
Speaker 6: he got his check.
Speaker 3: We went to the studio.
Speaker 6: It was fifty dollars, twenty five dollars an hour and
Speaker 6: you get an acetate at the answer was a bargain,
Speaker 6: like the acetate was twenty five dollars, but they said
Speaker 6: twenty five dollars and the acetate two hour minimum. We
Speaker 6: spent fifty dollars. We made a four track. We did
Speaker 6: South Bronx and the PS three the same day, two hours,
Speaker 6: one day, Bridges No no, No, South Bronx and the PS
Speaker 6: free the original with d Knights on the beach.
Speaker 3: And we got a dumb played out of it.
Speaker 6: So we took that down to Latin Quarters and Raoul
Speaker 6: was playing Red Alert wasn't even on yet.
Speaker 3: There's a dude named Raoul.
Speaker 1: There was bigger Raoul. That is side bar owner.
Speaker 3: Right rose Ma Hoomie.
Speaker 2: Shout out the sidebar, shout out the sidebar.
Speaker 1: What's the older people?
Speaker 4: Is this mingo?
Speaker 1: Because I stopped, no, no, no no, because I just
Speaker 1: figured Raoul, so continue this story.
Speaker 3: We gave him. We gave nasty take We gave him
Speaker 3: the dumb player. He put the ship on. From the
Speaker 3: second that ship came on Bridges No, the South, Bronx
Speaker 3: the South.
Speaker 1: He said, Queens Break.
Speaker 6: After Queens Queensbridge is a huge hit record. I should
Speaker 6: play on the radio every day, thro the ship on
Speaker 6: the club, dudes.
Speaker 1: Is we were very proud. How long do we have?
Speaker 1: How long do we have? How long queens were we?
Speaker 3: It was about a month. It was about a month.
Speaker 1: Only had a month taken We had six months? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was right, give us two months even.
Speaker 3: It was like to two months. It was on the radio.
Speaker 3: It was like one month.
Speaker 6: The ship was he was in the club already and
Speaker 6: then came back.
Speaker 3: No, then Shan came back.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, let's not skip.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we only had a month where it was
Speaker 2: okay to be from Queensbridge, left Frack forty projects and then.
Speaker 6: No, wait a minute, rephrase the question. No, you guys
Speaker 6: had like three left. You had like three four years.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because when see when when run DMC came
Speaker 6: out and ll and then Shante.
Speaker 1: You was cool with them.
Speaker 3: I'm cool with all of that.
Speaker 6: So why did you and sh Wait a minute, no, lyrically,
Speaker 6: I wasn't I got it lyrically, I wasn't see.
Speaker 3: This was the time.
Speaker 6: This was a time where you had to prove Run
Speaker 6: DMC said an amazing lyric. I think it was DMC,
Speaker 6: he said. Other rappers can't stand us, but give us respect.
Speaker 6: That sums up the whole.
Speaker 1: Eighties with Do you feel like Run DMC was like
Speaker 1: a pop group to you? Bet?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it was nothing pop about Run DMC.
Speaker 6: No them know fuckers was straight hood? Okay, Jam asked,
Speaker 6: did Jay okay? Okay? Okay? J was hood hood? Okay okay?
Speaker 6: Now Run and d they were straight hood as well.
Speaker 6: They came from different other parts of Queens, right, but
Speaker 6: queens the whole of Queen's hood.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: So it was like Run DMC was just kings like
Speaker 6: they was just it and and you always took a
Speaker 6: shot at those who was on the top if you
Speaker 6: was the little guy on the bottom.
Speaker 3: That that's what it was.
Speaker 6: It was like even rock sand Chante had a line
Speaker 6: where I met Run and I met d MC, and
Speaker 6: I said so and it was like one of hadopas,
Speaker 6: like one of her lines and she had put it.
Speaker 6: But that was the attitude like you ain't lodge. You
Speaker 6: ain't you know even though you are and you the man.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this question.
Speaker 2: When he's said hip hop started out in the dark,
Speaker 2: was was that something that.
Speaker 1: Directly bothered you because you knew the truth?
Speaker 6: Scholarly? Yes, but I didn't know the truth. I thought
Speaker 6: I knew the truth. See this is young arrogance. I'm
Speaker 6: hanging out in the Bronx, North Bronx, South Bronx, East
Speaker 6: West Bronx. I'm the whole Bronx Gunhill Road to Milburgh Projects.
Speaker 3: Okay, whole Bronx.
Speaker 6: First, I'm a graph writer, so I walked the entire Bronx.
Speaker 6: My name is Okay, I'm the whole Bronx. Okay, So
Speaker 6: I'm running in the parties. Dudes, you know we know ship.
Speaker 2: You didn't hear.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear Queen, No we did. We used to
Speaker 3: go to Queens. Queens had the dopest party.
Speaker 7: But so you did hear people, no doubt. Let's Queen's
Speaker 7: no what it was no childhood.
Speaker 3: Let me say this say this.
Speaker 6: My wife is from Queen's Okay, Queen, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: that's the queen right.
Speaker 1: Your wife Jasmine in the building queens, Queens.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna big you up.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, big up your wife.
Speaker 4: He's looking for queen.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for my queens. Saint Albans, Sane Orbans.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about. Man, Niggas don't respect
Speaker 2: this part. The nigga that married a woman. Let's leave
Speaker 2: this because listen, on the island, people used to be
Speaker 2: like queens, like you started something. So niggas from queens
Speaker 2: at that time on the island spit out raises and
Speaker 2: buck fifties. You might have originated buck fifties.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you knew that. But because queens, he.
Speaker 3: Was like everything.
Speaker 1: I do, I do, Master, you don't care, this is
Speaker 1: this is he's.
Speaker 3: Like my father, like I mean, and you blame your
Speaker 3: father for everything, don't we all?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Don't we all?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Don't we all?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: So when you heard hip hop started out an adult,
Speaker 1: you knew that.
Speaker 6: You knew that it didn't No, I knew Cool Heirk existed,
Speaker 6: I knew Bam, I knew Flash she existed. I didn't
Speaker 6: know them, but their names were in the hood crazy,
Speaker 6: so you knew was froning. Yeah, basically, well I.
Speaker 3: Knew he didn't know. I don't even know if he
Speaker 3: was frighting.
Speaker 6: It's just that one of queens we go because we
Speaker 6: seen that and he wrote about what he saw from
Speaker 6: his perspective, and so I put out the record South
Speaker 6: Bronx and today it's to be scholarly correct. Hip hop
Speaker 6: started in the West Bronx. It never started in the South.
Speaker 6: See that was my next question. This it's the Westbrooks
Speaker 6: cool Heart fifteen twenty Sadgwick Avenue, the Bronx. Okay, that's
Speaker 6: West Bronx. But we were so ghetto ignorant and gas
Speaker 6: to get on a record we South Bronx, South South
Speaker 6: Bronx because that was one of my other history books.
Speaker 2: Was with people from the other part of the Bronx
Speaker 2: where they still chair oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Everybody North Bronx, East West was all from the South.
Speaker 2: Because even now, like when Biggie you hear you hear yeah, Biggie,
Speaker 2: or you hear nahs.
Speaker 1: So nobody shout out the Bronx. They never say the Bronx,
Speaker 1: they say the South Bronx.
Speaker 2: And I always wondered with people from the other side, well,
Speaker 2: they offended by that. It's like Biggie shout it out
Speaker 2: on one record when God bless it that.
Speaker 1: Obviously, when Big was alive, he was like.
Speaker 2: Yo, I shout it out queens Bridge, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm from Left Frack, Like I don't really get that,
Speaker 2: Like you're not shout out the whole Queens when you
Speaker 2: shout out queens Bridge. Queensbridge is a ninety six building
Speaker 2: that you come over Manhattan and that's just that section.
Speaker 1: But people that's right next door to it, ravers would
Speaker 1: the story of they don't recognize queens Bridge.
Speaker 2: We understand what you mean by shouting out Queensbridge and
Speaker 2: thinking it's.
Speaker 1: The whole Queens, but it's really not.
Speaker 2: So I always wanted it was that the opposite when
Speaker 2: you said South Bronx.
Speaker 1: Was people in the West brook.
Speaker 3: The Bronx took it differently because the Bronx wasn't on
Speaker 3: the map. Brooklyn was on the map.
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is still on the map, and well there it
Speaker 1: is Brooklyn. Rules You could be du Journey and you
Speaker 1: say you're Brooklyn in the house.
Speaker 4: It was like the fuck Brooklyn washere?
Speaker 3: Okay, there was nobody was There was a record called
Speaker 3: Gold Brooklyn.
Speaker 6: I think that's sonics still might mister, somebody go Brooklyn,
Speaker 6: Gold Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: That was it. That that was the club anthem. That's
Speaker 3: what we did. That's what it was.
Speaker 6: So when I came to South Bronx, that's where I
Speaker 6: want to go. That's where the Bronx was on the map.
Speaker 6: And then I mentioned dudes that were heavy in the Bronx,
Speaker 6: you know, Nine Lives Crew, Cyprus Boys, real rock.
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is after you drop the
Speaker 2: South Bronx, shan drop kill that noise, that's what made
Speaker 2: you drop Bridges over.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh this is terrible. Bridges never was horrible. First
Speaker 3: of all, I would have been over it was horrible.
Speaker 3: This is terrible.
Speaker 6: Actually, you know what you know, let me tell you.
Speaker 6: When kill that Noise came out, it.
Speaker 3: Was a hit.
Speaker 4: Was it was a hit.
Speaker 3: First of all, that beat think of the Casey Sunshine
Speaker 3: band beat. That was easy. Biggy even used it again,
Speaker 3: no way, he used it.
Speaker 6: That the don't don't jun't the jun't junk junk and
Speaker 6: don't don't jun't don't jun't yun't don't don't.
Speaker 3: That that that that was the Casey in the Sunshine
Speaker 3: when he dow that on.
Speaker 4: It was hot. It was like, oh he came back.
Speaker 6: It wasn't it wasn't whacked until the bridge is over
Speaker 6: came out.
Speaker 1: My feelings. But I need to know how this happens.
Speaker 1: I need to know, like, because you're my favorite artist
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 3: I'm a child.
Speaker 1: And you broke my dreams.
Speaker 3: With murder people.
Speaker 1: All around the boy my whole life.
Speaker 4: It's good's.
Speaker 1: He's my god. So how did this session did? How
Speaker 1: did how did it?
Speaker 2: Because you said you originally recorded original version it was
Speaker 2: a reggae version.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I never recorded it. Oh, I just
Speaker 3: said it in Scott's living room.
Speaker 1: As Scott said no, he said no, wow, So you
Speaker 1: did the South Bronx. So I did the South Bronx
Speaker 1: and Killis came out and did Now you.
Speaker 6: Know, Scott got on the reggae when he heard the
Speaker 6: ps free when I did South Bronx and then the
Speaker 6: ps free on the other side.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: When we used to do that in the club. That
Speaker 6: was the rock that that was the wreck is. So
Speaker 6: Scott was like, what's up this reggae?
Speaker 3: Should like what?
Speaker 6: He started getting me now he was on it. But
Speaker 6: then Shan answered us would kill that noise. If you
Speaker 6: knew what I knew, you'd kill that noise. And the
Speaker 6: record was hot for its time, and so we was like,
Speaker 6: you know what, we got this joint right here. And
Speaker 6: Scott didn't even recorded, no, it was all my record.
Speaker 6: Scott never recorded the bridges over, he never even well,
Speaker 6: he came for the mix of the second one. But
Speaker 6: when when when Shan put out his record, I went
Speaker 6: back to said G from Ultra Magnetic, who was doing
Speaker 6: our beats, and he said, actually was sampling. He was
Speaker 6: he had to sp twelve. So I asked him, Yo,
Speaker 6: give me some drums. I'm gonna go in the studio
Speaker 6: up the block from Latin Quarters. I found some little
Speaker 6: rinkyding studio like two blocks up, and I said, yo,
Speaker 6: Shan came out with this joint. I'm coming back. Went
Speaker 6: in there and I produced the whole record. I took
Speaker 6: said G's drums.
Speaker 3: Boom boom back bat, boom bat, boom boom bat.
Speaker 6: That's the same beat we did on the bathroom wall
Speaker 6: and the shelter boom boom back back boom bat, and dudes,
Speaker 6: just get it in. That was just the standard beat.
Speaker 6: So we did that, put the super cat to it.
Speaker 6: Boom boom boom ba boom boom. I played the piano
Speaker 6: one take one time you listen to the instrumental.
Speaker 4: That's the sloppiest playing ever.
Speaker 6: As error's mistakes, all types of shit, but no one
Speaker 6: heard all that put my lyric down. The Bridge is over.
Speaker 6: I did that shit strictly for Brooklyn, straight up Bronx,
Speaker 6: South Bronx. That was straight up Gunhill Road, straight up
Speaker 6: west Chester, Jerome Brand concourse, that would that this one.
Speaker 6: We said, Yo, this is what Brooklyn is on right now,
Speaker 6: and nobody knows it.
Speaker 3: Nobody.
Speaker 6: Nobody goes to the jams like well, actually what it's
Speaker 6: called the donzie the dance all they don't go to that.
Speaker 3: We be it.
Speaker 6: We was up in it with Stone Love and GT
Speaker 6: International and all of that. So when he was talking
Speaker 6: about battle, he was like, Yo, were gonna battle the
Speaker 6: way they do in Jamaica. We're gonna spin the record
Speaker 6: back up, gunshot. We're gonna and America's never hurt it.
Speaker 6: They was like, what the fuck the bridge is over?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: They didn't know what the fun was. It was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 4: That's what it was called sound.
Speaker 2: I'm not even from the bridge I'm just from Queens,
Speaker 2: but it still hurts Karen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a moment of silence.
Speaker 3: Take that moment. Let's drink.
Speaker 6: Drink.
Speaker 3: I can't share.
Speaker 1: Fund it out. So why did why did.
Speaker 2: You even respond to Shan Shannon? Listen, let me just say,
Speaker 2: Shannon is still a godfather, no doubt off Queen's Bridge
Speaker 2: of Queens.
Speaker 1: He's still a forefather. But this time, why did you respond?
Speaker 3: Like Shan is the reason, Hey, a restaurant has a career.
Speaker 1: Damn this okay, this is let's make some noise for
Speaker 1: that man.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, the greatest battle on the record, no
Speaker 2: doubt on record. To me, it was the greatest battle
Speaker 2: because it affected like it changed people lives. Like right now,
Speaker 2: when I see people battle, it don't change people lives.
Speaker 1: We just laugh at them.
Speaker 2: And you know, but this, like Queen's had to prove ourselves,
Speaker 2: like we had to like you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like South Bronx was was was the position where.
Speaker 4: Y'all had to dig out the rubble. I got outside,
Speaker 4: I could.
Speaker 1: What he said.
Speaker 2: It's like Brooklyn has always been recognized. I can remember
Speaker 2: back in ninety seven, I used to go to Atlanta
Speaker 2: and be like, yo is Atlanta in the house, and
Speaker 2: nobody from Atlanta would never, you know, say anything.
Speaker 1: And when I said New York in the house, people
Speaker 1: go crazy. And I would say Brooklyn. We were always
Speaker 1: my first choice.
Speaker 4: Brooklyn, and people will go issue.
Speaker 1: We see him, I see him backstage and be like,
Speaker 1: you're from Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Where're at that?
Speaker 1: Like Queens Boulevard. God damn it. This motherfucker is a
Speaker 1: lion motherfucker. But you changed the game from that, And.
Speaker 3: So Shan.
Speaker 1: Responded to you recently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, he started and started that, he started.
Speaker 1: He just he did an interview.
Speaker 3: It's a record.
Speaker 4: No, no, he didn't.
Speaker 3: Well wait he didn't do a record, No he did,
Speaker 3: he did. He did.
Speaker 4: Uh wait wait, let me go back. Just for the record.
Speaker 4: I was battling some other dude in Pittsburgh recently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe three months strike come out to the supermar
Speaker 3: like young Gris. I would have got it.
Speaker 6: I have an eggs and bread in my hand and ship.
Speaker 6: But I give the young kids a run for their money. Somebody,
Speaker 6: the young shooters gotta know somebody. The young kids don't
Speaker 6: know my history, so don't tell them. Don't tell them.
Speaker 6: Let me give me spank that. But but they but
Speaker 6: but but the point is is that I was battling
Speaker 6: some others. Some dude jumped on stage. He was this,
Speaker 6: and he was dressed like L, holding L's album album,
Speaker 6: and I was freestyling. I said some wax ship about L.
Speaker 6: I apologize for that because.
Speaker 3: L is up here.
Speaker 6: You know, he's even before me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: There's no disrespect there. But I was battling and the
Speaker 6: battle is for. He was like, he held up L's album.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you telling me some kids just
Speaker 2: jumped one. Yeah, well he jumped on, gave a shot.
Speaker 7: Why what you got?
Speaker 3: He's smittish ship. It was corny, And so I started going,
Speaker 3: where where was this at Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: Okay, you did say that this is Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6: So in that he put up Shan's album and I said,
Speaker 6: we took Shan out already?
Speaker 3: What them up for? Shann heard that and said fuck him, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he ain't never took me out. This, that, and the other.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with his theory?
Speaker 2: His theory is that y'all should have been in front
Speaker 2: of each other like how the Battle Rappers do.
Speaker 1: Now do you agree with that theory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just never showed up. Dude.
Speaker 4: It's thirty years.
Speaker 6: It's thirty years, dude, not the festival all up and down.
Speaker 6: Queens should make happen. Talk right only in Queen's Bridge,
Speaker 6: There's no excuse outdoor festivals.
Speaker 3: Come on summer Champ.
Speaker 1: It's thirty years and now he wants to do it face.
Speaker 6: That would be the end of his ship. If you
Speaker 6: ever want to see them all, that ship will be destructive.
Speaker 6: I don't know what he's asking for, but you know,
Speaker 6: I eat.
Speaker 3: Off this ship. Man, this is my ship right here.
Speaker 7: You know he'll have it in you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot somebody.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: So you really written the studio arm recorded a new rend.
Speaker 3: Well, he came out with something he did.
Speaker 6: He did an interview and he said some rhymes on
Speaker 6: the interview that he's coming at me. So I'm from
Speaker 6: you don't just say that's like pulling your gun and
Speaker 6: that ship like what you're gonna pull your ship out?
Speaker 3: I'm blasting you. That's it.
Speaker 6: That's I'm not what that's the end of. So he
Speaker 6: said his little piece put a piece out.
Speaker 1: So what did he exactly say? He like freestyle a cappella.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it sounds like it was written though it
Speaker 6: had no heart to it, like a real freestyle. He
Speaker 6: was reading some ship and he read some ship off
Speaker 6: and that you and I just fuck. Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 6: to Atlanta. I'm going to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: That's what, dude? Is that? Oh?
Speaker 1: That's what?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Sham work is sham work at a place called Club
Speaker 6: Babes in Atlanta. Okay, I'm going there. Okay, that's why
Speaker 6: I don't know what I just started.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. No, no, no, you want to
Speaker 3: see it. Let's get it popping so.
Speaker 5: You will be willing drink champs. I think it's an
Speaker 5: opportunity for us, right, No, no, no.
Speaker 8: No no.
Speaker 1: I don't want them to do with this battle. I
Speaker 1: just want to see it online.
Speaker 2: Queens lorda queens man, listen, I don't really want to
Speaker 2: see this battle happen.
Speaker 1: Can you? Is there anywhere we can chill you out?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 6: Not? You know what?
Speaker 1: What What did he say that ignited you to want
Speaker 1: to go?
Speaker 6: It's not what is being said, it's so it's the
Speaker 6: audacity to even think that, after thirty years, you you
Speaker 6: got something for me. You are crazy. You obviously want
Speaker 6: more hits on your ship or whatever it is. Let
Speaker 6: me give them to you, Let me give it to you,
Speaker 6: let me bleak you up. Because again, let me also
Speaker 6: say this, if Shan never answered me, I would not
Speaker 6: have a career, okay saying from the South from the
Speaker 6: South Bronx. Okay, that record could have been a one hit.
Speaker 6: Like if South Bronx came out, we would have had
Speaker 6: one hit. Okay, we had no other shot. Shan answered,
Speaker 6: would kill that noise, and andever he.
Speaker 3: Didn't have to.
Speaker 6: So we came back with the bridges over and that's
Speaker 6: when we was able to follow up with Criminal Minded.
Speaker 6: We had four songs on the market. Now, Shan is
Speaker 6: the reason I exist. So the least I could do
Speaker 6: is Busses asked. That's the least I could do. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, show them that love and hopefully
Speaker 6: I say, yo, somebody should write for Chancy.
Speaker 3: Back to your first question, Back to the first verson.
Speaker 6: Now, see if someone wrote for Sham, I would not
Speaker 6: be mad at all.
Speaker 3: Fuck that man. Save that nigga man, please.
Speaker 2: So you kept saying to him, you told him, you
Speaker 2: told him his name is Na spelled backwards, your father.
Speaker 3: He's the opposite.
Speaker 6: Yo, yo, let me pick up my nigga noads real quick,
Speaker 6: because he said Queen's Bridge was done until Illmatic came out. Okay,
Speaker 6: just for the history, Okay, Queens Bridge was criminal minded?
Speaker 6: Was was the ship and that ship that was it? Okay,
Speaker 6: I think Illmatic was better than criminal Minded. That's my opinion.
Speaker 2: Me being a Queen's kid, I can understand where you're
Speaker 2: coming from. But me living in that era, I gotta
Speaker 2: say criminal minded. If it wasn't a criminal minded, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be an ill matter.
Speaker 3: You could say that, no doubt, no doubt. We can
Speaker 3: say so. Yeah, we can say.
Speaker 1: I'm a real hip hop kid.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: He turned into real niggas. You influenced knaves too.
Speaker 3: But you know what, you know what you are starting
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 6: Whoever's listening to us right now, go and listen to
Speaker 6: both albums right now, back to back, back to back.
Speaker 6: Listen to the whole Criminal Minded, and listen to the
Speaker 6: whole Illmatic.
Speaker 1: I did that this morning. That's the crazy ship.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen, you know that's what Criminal Mind is
Speaker 2: one of my favorite albums. I just it's two records
Speaker 2: I can't really listen to but I listened to them.
Speaker 2: But this morning I just woke up and I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to listen to ill Madic. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: and I just listened to it, and then I listened
Speaker 2: to Criminal Another Mind. If you want to switch the
Speaker 2: champagne right yo. So so I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But me living in that era, that's.
Speaker 1: I can one hundred percent tell you NAS answer the
Speaker 1: question the same way.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, if it wasn't for her Criminal Minded,
Speaker 2: he wouldn't know because you made us step.
Speaker 6: Our game up, you know what, that game, but that
Speaker 6: game got stepped up to the point where hip hop changed.
Speaker 2: No, but you changed hip hop too, just in case,
Speaker 2: because you know, I know you're imagine and you humble,
Speaker 2: but you changed hip hop. You You was the first
Speaker 2: person you was. You was our Malcolm X. Let me
Speaker 2: break that down to you. It is because hip hop
Speaker 2: had took up like the PM dolls, and it had
Speaker 2: took a hey, we're cool approach. But we wanted to
Speaker 2: keep that attitude. But we also wanted to learn something
Speaker 2: and that's the position you fulfilled. That's why that's why
Speaker 2: your your name as a teacher would never be testing
Speaker 2: at all. No one could ever say he's not a
Speaker 2: teacher because you taught us the wool tangs, the mob deeps,
Speaker 2: the kabon and noriegas the nases. So I can't agree
Speaker 2: with your statement. I know your statement is humo saying
Speaker 2: that is better, but it is beat for beat.
Speaker 1: No, but that's not But that's not how history happened.
Speaker 2: How history happens is they say, you know this happened
Speaker 2: in order for this to that way.
Speaker 3: So that when I was coming from a different perspective about.
Speaker 1: Talk about Shan, you're a great guy, a great guy.
Speaker 6: We understand when you wait a minute, how else was
Speaker 6: Queen's been supposed to come back?
Speaker 2: So now let's let's now let's answer Shan's question. Because
Speaker 2: I listened to the interview, Shan is also a guard
Speaker 2: to me. He said that Molly told him not to respond.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that?
Speaker 3: That's that's that's pussy. It was right for him him
Speaker 3: that My god, that's.
Speaker 6: Grown ass man gonna tell you not to respond? We
Speaker 6: eating your ass right now, nigga, somebody.
Speaker 1: Respond as ship right, Oh man, this is real for me,
Speaker 1: this is so surreal. I don't even know where to go.
Speaker 5: If we're gonna wrap this up, you know, get out
Speaker 5: of here, man before we wrap this up.
Speaker 4: I'm the only Miami represented here right now.
Speaker 5: Yes, so it wouldn't be right for you to walk
Speaker 5: away without me to represent my generation of Miami hip hopatogia.
Speaker 5: And when you recorded with Mother Superior this album didn't really.
Speaker 1: See the like lame is this is your usually?
Speaker 3: Lie?
Speaker 1: What's Mother Superior?
Speaker 5: Mother Superior is this dope MC that came out of
Speaker 5: Miami in the mid nineties early mid nineties, and she
Speaker 5: was spear heading our movement. I mean, there was those
Speaker 5: funky bastards, there was Society Home Team, there was there
Speaker 5: was We had a bubble of movement that was parallel
Speaker 5: to the bass movement. Base, no doubt is a part
Speaker 5: of our Miami culture. But we had we had a
Speaker 5: hip hop and the way you guys were talking about
Speaker 5: how everybody was talking about the Brooklyn and the Bronx
Speaker 5: or whatever in the clubs, we had that problem here.
Speaker 4: So what we're trying to do is build our own
Speaker 4: identity record. So she did this album.
Speaker 5: She got signed to Island Music, you know, strictly off
Speaker 5: of underground radio, she did a song called rock Bottom,
Speaker 5: which was totally representative of Miami, and then he did
Speaker 5: a record with her, maybe a couple but this one
Speaker 5: record I put on one of my mixtapes, but her
Speaker 5: album never came out.
Speaker 4: It got shelved. And he said, where you at? Where
Speaker 4: you at?
Speaker 5: Miami's on the map, if you remember that, And that
Speaker 5: made the world of difference for a Miami hip ho kid.
Speaker 5: And I just you couldn't leave without me telling you
Speaker 5: that because it made the world of difference for all
Speaker 5: of us out here.
Speaker 1: Let's make that.
Speaker 3: I felt some mother superior to the superior she was.
Speaker 3: She was hot man.
Speaker 4: When Stone words.
Speaker 1: One question, where was your mind at when you made
Speaker 1: the sound of the police?
Speaker 6: I was sick of these pigs man shooting us down
Speaker 6: in the street. And it's still going on still what
Speaker 6: it was going on since we got here?
Speaker 1: So what was the sound? What year was that?
Speaker 3: Technically? Ninety five? Damn?
Speaker 1: What what year are you at now?
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen? That's twenty years, twenty one.
Speaker 1: Years and you made that record then, yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: still going on.
Speaker 3: Now still to this table, little n W A man
Speaker 3: fucked the police?
Speaker 1: What was what year was fuck to the police.
Speaker 3: That was eighty eighty nine.
Speaker 2: And see, this is the thing is when people say,
Speaker 2: you know, black people are overdoing it, we have documents.
Speaker 1: Records that says no doubt that these people was doing it.
Speaker 1: So I was just like to say, what was the Mondster?
Speaker 1: You woke this in the South Bronx.
Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind that. Wow, I don't even know
Speaker 3: how to say this, but.
Speaker 6: In the Bronx, if you was really successful with your
Speaker 6: hustle in the hood, the cops was your friends.
Speaker 1: Larry Davis day, Yeah, it were.
Speaker 6: Larry Davis was right on our block like Webster Project.
Speaker 6: He was up the block from Webster Project. The whole
Speaker 6: thing went down, the cops was like they were gangster like.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh boom, okay, they speed this up. Training
Speaker 6: Day in the movie Training Day, that is every day
Speaker 6: all day. Okay, just go watch Training Day and you'll
Speaker 6: know what it is. It's just there's just another gang
Speaker 6: with another jurisdiction. And then and this is what we
Speaker 6: were dealing with. So if you remember in Bookie Down Productions,
Speaker 6: we had a we had a dude called RoboCop that
Speaker 6: was with us and there were two of them. One
Speaker 6: was a Bounce was the lead bouncer at Latin Quarters
Speaker 6: who is known for breaking dudes up in Latin Court.
Speaker 6: He had a reputation. You didn't want to deal with
Speaker 6: this dude, okay. And there was another dude, uh that
Speaker 6: was a state trooper, New Jersey State trooper. When I'm
Speaker 6: posting on the on the cover by all these necessary
Speaker 6: with the uzzi, the uzi is from a New Jersey
Speaker 6: state trooper, smer in the studioper.
Speaker 1: I didn't look at I didn't look as cool as you.
Speaker 3: That was from a New Jersey state. You was so
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 6: It was like it got to a point where he
Speaker 6: was like, you know what, we can't associate with you
Speaker 6: anymore because of what was going on. It was a
Speaker 6: split like in our own community, because like if you
Speaker 6: really in the hood, like like you could be selling
Speaker 6: mad drugs, but your brother's a cop, Like your cousin's
Speaker 6: a cop, your uncle's a cop. Like you know, it's
Speaker 6: not just oh, I'm a cop and everybody around me
Speaker 6: is clean. It's the exact opposite. Dudes that are cops
Speaker 6: even today, they gotta live with people like like, imagine
Speaker 6: you a cop and every day you see crime all
Speaker 6: around you. Every day, but you can just pick. Okay,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna arrest you today.
Speaker 2: How did you come up with the analogy from officer overseas?
Speaker 6: Oh, but that's that's the most shit because when we
Speaker 6: when we were first, when we were first brought here
Speaker 6: not as slaves but really as soldiers on the Spanish
Speaker 6: side and then slaves on the English side or the
Speaker 6: that's controversial too.
Speaker 3: But yo, heart, Yo here.
Speaker 1: Yo, we're gonna get your new phone care.
Speaker 3: I need that one. I need that ship. I need
Speaker 3: that ship is eighty.
Speaker 1: Can't do that.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing that ship back.
Speaker 1: Forget you, personally buying you.
Speaker 3: I gotta beep a nikes I got.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: Listen, is no word I said. Yah, I want to be.
Speaker 6: Ship.
Speaker 3: I got serious, serious, I got a bee beeper.
Speaker 1: Bring beepers back. Yo.
Speaker 4: You want to get with dream camps.
Speaker 3: You gotta beep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you gotta beat us. I'm personally buying cares.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, So you remember you're talking about
Speaker 2: because you can forget it and.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 3: Listen, we wanted to take the community, Oh, cops in
Speaker 3: the community.
Speaker 1: That's right, signing the police.
Speaker 6: So the cops is always your friends in the hood,
Speaker 6: which is the weirdest ship because when you really in
Speaker 6: the hood, cops ain't arresting you and shooting you. These
Speaker 6: are bitches that are shooting at us. This motherfuckers. That
Speaker 6: ain't no real ship. That's some bullshit. Okay, that's that's scared.
Speaker 6: They said, we scared. You know, that's what we shooting
Speaker 6: because we're scared. Real cops they know exactly who's selling
Speaker 6: who they hit the d a yo, go watch training day.
Speaker 2: The d ain't tell you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, this dude to this one.
Speaker 2: I say all the time, when we have police brutality
Speaker 2: is when they stop letting the cops from the.
Speaker 1: Hood, the hood, you know, you know what you call it,
Speaker 1: from down the block. He went to school with him.
Speaker 1: You know he's a thief, right, you don't need to
Speaker 1: kill him.
Speaker 2: But when what happened is they take the cops from
Speaker 2: our hood and they bring them to another place, and
Speaker 2: then they bring the cops from another place, and that's.
Speaker 1: Borderline.
Speaker 2: That's that's one of the essential reasons why police brutality exists.
Speaker 2: Because if you had Jamal that that's from Soundview Projects
Speaker 2: and that went to school in Soundview, and then now
Speaker 2: I was patrolling Soundview, he's going to be different as
Speaker 2: opposed to Walter as a Walter who's from wherever wherever.
Speaker 2: But now he's patrolling Soundview. He's never seen a kid
Speaker 2: with braids. He's never seen a kid either since I see.
Speaker 1: So he's going to just do whatever.
Speaker 4: So there's one.
Speaker 3: Add on.
Speaker 6: The police are supposed to be the model citizen in
Speaker 6: the community, no matter who you are, white cop, black cop,
Speaker 6: you cop, Asian cop, Arab cop, fuck.
Speaker 3: Who you are?
Speaker 6: You take police training, You're supposed to be the model citizen.
Speaker 6: Should you should have the most restraint. Okay, kids are
Speaker 6: looking at you. They should be able to look at
Speaker 6: you and be like, yo, dad, I want to be
Speaker 6: a cop, and your dad be like, yo, you gotta
Speaker 6: really be a good man to be a cop. And
Speaker 6: that that's what it's supposed to be. But our children
Speaker 6: forget adults. Okay, children know the cops are corrupt. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's the state we are, right, Kids, not forget the adults.
Speaker 6: Kids know I'm not safe around this dude. I'd rather
Speaker 6: be around my shooters over here, we're in the rag
Speaker 6: on their head. I'm more safe around crips and bloods.
Speaker 6: I rather hot yo, I'm even gonna say that.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying I rather hire them, which we do
Speaker 6: as opposed to some some off duty cop. Years ago,
Speaker 6: we used to hire off duty cops x FBI. These
Speaker 6: dudes need jobs. You just go ahead and you hire
Speaker 6: them for and now you give them some money. You're
Speaker 6: doing your country, your service. These are veterans and shit,
Speaker 6: you do your thing now. It's like, nah, man, let
Speaker 6: me organize these blogs over here. Hit them with some money,
Speaker 6: because I say, go on the street. Four.
Speaker 3: Let me hit them with some cashing. Y'all go.
Speaker 6: Y'all can stand there and just do what you're supposed
Speaker 6: to do and get organized. I'd rather hire them as
Speaker 6: long as we know that we're not safe around the police.
Speaker 6: This whole shit is corrupt, and let me show you
Speaker 6: this on some Illuminati shit if you really want to know.
Speaker 6: Years ago, like eighty two, there was supposedly a conspiracy
Speaker 6: theory going around about eighty two eighty three. It said
Speaker 6: that the new World Order is going to include a
Speaker 6: global police force, and the way to implement the global
Speaker 6: police force was for local police to become so hated
Speaker 6: by the local community that the local communities cry out
Speaker 6: for international interference. So now you have these cops today
Speaker 6: randomly just shooting down black people, just shooting and it's stupid.
Speaker 6: It's like, it's ridiculous. Now the rest of the world
Speaker 6: is saying, Yo, what's up with America? What's what's somewhere?
Speaker 6: You go to other places, you know, Norway, you go
Speaker 6: to places, dude's looking at us like wea crazy, Like Yo,
Speaker 6: what's going I got Africans asking me, yo, bro, what's up?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 3: A black man?
Speaker 2: Sometimes you land in these different countries, they be like welcome, like.
Speaker 6: Right, you're here, like you survived.
Speaker 2: And dudes, do you think that's because because Barack became
Speaker 2: president it got worse or.
Speaker 6: No no, yeah, no, no, no, no, you know what
Speaker 6: he got to do. You got a lot of factors
Speaker 6: in it. First of all, people want black people in jail. Okay,
Speaker 6: people make him money on it. Black people are making
Speaker 6: money on black people in jail.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: This black DA sends no doubt this Black DA sending
Speaker 6: black people a prison. Black judges are sending black people
Speaker 6: are prison.
Speaker 3: Black cops are sending black people Black.
Speaker 6: Cops black stop shooting black Peobo were all gonna drop
Speaker 6: I got you, you know. So it's like it's like,
Speaker 6: are we really at war with any outside for us?
Speaker 6: Or we at war with ourselves? Are we just going
Speaker 6: along with the script that they have planned for us?
Speaker 6: And it's like straight up and down they just had
Speaker 6: Tyler Qualle was just with me the other day. He
Speaker 6: came over so Washington.
Speaker 3: He just told me he just came from the White
Speaker 3: House with a couple other rappers were there, and really
Speaker 3: nothing got discussed, you know. And they never call people
Speaker 3: like me or Chuck or m One or I mean,
Speaker 3: they don no doubt that they never know. But you
Speaker 3: know what they had Rick there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I'm saying, no, why don't they because they know
Speaker 6: you're gonna come with the truth. Look, here's the point
Speaker 6: is that is that we're moving into this script. The
Speaker 6: United States has to become what its name is in
Speaker 6: order to for it to survive. United fu all this
Speaker 6: black ship, give me this, Yes, this is this legendary.
Speaker 6: This is a bit right, America. You gotta become united.
Speaker 6: United America got to stand up for America, like straight
Speaker 6: up when you go to other countries, niggas.
Speaker 3: This in US man, this in Americas. This is not everybody.
Speaker 2: Because first game President, everybody overseas, they was like black
Speaker 2: man ship, like the like the first year word.
Speaker 4: Then after that.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know what, there's a rumor that
Speaker 1: you didn't fly. I was taking boats yep, and.
Speaker 3: No doubt and reatha Franklin.
Speaker 1: So so do you do you fly now?
Speaker 3: No, I'll fly privately. I love flying.
Speaker 6: I fly helicopters. I'll fly private jets, you know, things
Speaker 6: like that. Take a few private jets in there. But
Speaker 6: commercial airlines for me, it is too much. The love
Speaker 6: in the hood is too much. For char rest, I
Speaker 6: don't I can't do nothing like you know, like to
Speaker 6: get to the airport. It takes me an hour, the
Speaker 6: baggage clean, bucking the whole baggage claim. I gotta take
Speaker 6: pictures with everybody pun I'm not leaving my people. I'm
Speaker 6: not just gonna walk past you. So everybody said, yo, Chris,
Speaker 6: I gotta stop. I gotta take pictures. I got signs ship,
Speaker 6: get on the plane, the stewardess bucket, the people on
Speaker 6: the on the plane again, Captain, I said, you know what,
Speaker 6: And this was ninety seven, I said, forget it.
Speaker 3: I'm not flying. I'm not flying no more. I can't.
Speaker 3: You haven't since ye, since ninety seven, actually ninety six.
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise for me being rich.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You gotta retreat the line it's a rich listen there, God,
Speaker 2: it's not rich.
Speaker 3: I'm not a rich man. I'm a very poor man.
Speaker 1: No, no, me too, I say the same.
Speaker 3: I take poverty. I'm not rich, me too.
Speaker 1: But you want the private things, let's talk about it.
Speaker 6: But but I will privately. Look, I take very good
Speaker 6: care of my wife and my children. Okay, that's what
Speaker 6: it is. I don't need anything, but they need a lot.
Speaker 6: So you know, I say, Look, I don't want to
Speaker 6: have a career where I'm away from my kids or
Speaker 6: my wife and this, that and the other.
Speaker 3: So and I can't be away from my wife. She
Speaker 3: books on the tours.
Speaker 1: Did you book a boat to London?
Speaker 4: I heard that too.
Speaker 1: I heard this story.
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm rushing out of here and now
Speaker 3: to get Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 4: To Spain tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Walk about are you getting in a boat?
Speaker 3: I'm going tomorrow?
Speaker 6: Is Norwisian Norwesian Cruise pulls right up to your port.
Speaker 6: I'm getting on that ship and then it goes to
Speaker 6: it goes to Spain many days.
Speaker 3: Fourteen days, I'll be in Barcelona.
Speaker 1: What so, No, this is you in college? Is like
Speaker 1: the only two left?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: College don't fly neither?
Speaker 3: No, I think he got it. I expected why should
Speaker 3: college fly? Why should he fly?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 3: Why what? What?
Speaker 1: What? Why you wouldn't fly?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 6: Well, well, first of all, like I told you, commercial
Speaker 6: travel to me is just hectic. Besides like you now,
Speaker 6: besides that, I have books to write. I got rhymes
Speaker 6: to right, I read a lot. My life is slower,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I take time with my family,
Speaker 6: my wife, my daughter, my sons, like you need time
Speaker 6: for that. So you know, fourteen days at see, I'm
Speaker 6: finishing up three books that I'm just finishing.
Speaker 2: So you're saying you just zone out, zone out, you
Speaker 2: zone try that one? You should you should try right
Speaker 2: and rhyme at I got a d D.
Speaker 3: Hit that water. You don't have a d D. Smoke
Speaker 3: too much?
Speaker 1: I might just jump over.
Speaker 3: Actually is cured marijuana, curreus, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it doesn't have it.
Speaker 2: And the thing is the weed I smoke is so loud,
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a judge.
Speaker 1: That come out.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell your story, right, let me tell you story.
Speaker 2: I was in Hawaii because I remember this story because
Speaker 2: he's drinking my ties. So I'm in Hawaii, right, I'm out,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, I'm smoking weed.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: This is my first marriage, it's my first I'm married again,
Speaker 1: it's my second.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: Pray for me.
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there smoking. The people at the Four Seasons,
Speaker 2: the Four Seasons Maui. So they call me and they say, yo, are.
Speaker 1: You smoking up there?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what I paid
Speaker 2: for this room, but I just know my accountant lost
Speaker 2: her mind. So I'm like, yeah, I'm smoking. They're like,
Speaker 2: cauld you would you mind not smoking on the terrace?
Speaker 2: So I said, now you're inviting me to smoke in
Speaker 2: the room.
Speaker 1: They're like, you're right.
Speaker 2: They're like, we have a very important guess that is upstairs.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, did the guests pay more than me?
Speaker 1: And they're like no.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, they're like, mister Santiago, that's my
Speaker 2: last name. I don't know if you don't buy Puerto
Speaker 2: Rican makes a noise from Latina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm black and Latin.
Speaker 3: So they say, I'm actually performing in Santiago.
Speaker 1: This is a gift. So they say to me, they say,
Speaker 1: you're right, You're actually outside. You can't do it. Bo I.
Speaker 1: Look on the news.
Speaker 2: This is when Oprah step son had drowned in Hawaii
Speaker 2: and Maui. So the person I was telling them to
Speaker 2: tell them the funk that I paid the same amount
Speaker 2: was fucking Oprah.
Speaker 4: This is morbid story.
Speaker 3: Because I liked it.
Speaker 2: I actually paid square for square. We had the same
Speaker 2: exact room. God bless you know the people who passed
Speaker 2: away and and everything. But that ship was just the
Speaker 2: moment for It was a moment for just me standing
Speaker 2: in my ground. But now I'm aging and trying to
Speaker 2: make this one work.
Speaker 3: Second was always the best.
Speaker 1: You'd you're the second one to first year.
Speaker 3: And a half, and big up to her, Rest in peace, blessed.
Speaker 8: I did not that.
Speaker 1: I'm every religion, by the way, So if you see
Speaker 1: me do that, I'm a Muslim.
Speaker 2: Christian, God body, Kay, thank you for so much for
Speaker 2: hanging out with us.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna we can and I'll come back.
Speaker 3: No about fourteen days when I come back. The people
Speaker 3: need you.
Speaker 2: Let's just break it down for these people. You are
Speaker 2: going fourteen days. So now, how does this cruise happen?
Speaker 2: You leave Miami, do.
Speaker 1: You stop anywhere?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Who do you stop at?
Speaker 4: We stop in Pune, call Africa, we stopped.
Speaker 1: All you go from Miami to Africa.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got real quick from Miami Africa.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 6: Some Bahamas, A little Bahamas, O Bahamas. Then you get
Speaker 6: out to Africa. Then you get done this trip before.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no doubt not on this ship. But I've
Speaker 6: done other ships. I've done that.
Speaker 1: And how many times do you say you dim this?
Speaker 6: Oh, saund yes, oh at least thirty times? And you
Speaker 6: believe in them both.
Speaker 1: You've never been Titanic.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, there's no Titanic anyway in the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 6: The coast got will get you in ten minutes.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 6: It ain't all that boat. That's bullshit. That's this movie ship.
Speaker 6: This rich motherfucker's on that boat. That boat ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 6: There's no there's nothing, there's nothing now mind you. Now
Speaker 6: come on now, Caribbean Cruises and.
Speaker 3: All that you the cruise. Do I get them, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: no doubt. You get platinum gold status.
Speaker 4: Passengers, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But the triangle, the Bermuda Triangle. You ever been there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in the part of the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 1: You've been to the right through it.
Speaker 3: Get the Bermuda.
Speaker 6: Triangle only acts up when when like you know you
Speaker 6: you have to go through that and like like it's
Speaker 6: like certain seasons where they say it's like hurricane season
Speaker 6: or this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Look, everything gets me. The bottom line. You trust a
Speaker 2: boat more than a plane? No, no, no, okay, I.
Speaker 6: Trust me driving ship more than anything. I would prefer
Speaker 6: to get my own boat and sail across the sea myself.
Speaker 6: But I'm not going to settle for a small yacht.
Speaker 6: Like you know, I could do a small yacht right now,
Speaker 6: but that's not what I want. What I want is
Speaker 6: an actual ship that I could go across and that
Speaker 6: costs mad money. So I'm just holding out till I
Speaker 6: can get my own ship, and then I could I
Speaker 6: could see.
Speaker 2: Some motherfuckers want to buy planes. They want to ship,
Speaker 2: pay us one and more owner ship goddam.
Speaker 3: Straight up, no doubt.
Speaker 1: So you think I'm gonna give you this last one.
Speaker 3: It's the last question.
Speaker 2: Boxing don't have no representative, which means that if you're boxer,
Speaker 2: you make it, you make it. If you're a boxer,
Speaker 2: you don't make it, you're fucked up. There's no there's
Speaker 2: no reparations, there's no like you know, type of you know,
Speaker 2: to hold you down.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is the only other.
Speaker 2: I want to say, entertainment company that we might have
Speaker 2: thirty people, that's down with us.
Speaker 1: But when you go on that vocal ble for you
Speaker 1: go to perform that record, it's just you.
Speaker 2: Similar to boxing, we don't have nothing to representing us
Speaker 2: in hip hop. We hear that the president just recently
Speaker 2: met with these people to our lib quality brothers that
Speaker 2: we know busta rhyms. What do you think is our
Speaker 2: solution to make we need a hip hop You you
Speaker 2: wanted the life insurance or the health insurance.
Speaker 3: No, I'm even further than that now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well let me because like right now, like DC right,
Speaker 2: phenomenal guy lost his voice, there should have been health
Speaker 2: insurance that kind of helped him restore that.
Speaker 3: We didn't have that.
Speaker 2: And right now, because Jadakis said something on our podcast,
Speaker 2: he said, we're the only people who have a hip
Speaker 2: hop South, a hip hop regions. Well, there's no hip hop.
Speaker 2: There's no rock and rolls out, there's no rock and roll.
Speaker 4: Why are we segregating?
Speaker 1: Why are we say and do we need this?
Speaker 2: This this policies where we if HRC gets sick, we
Speaker 2: can go and help it.
Speaker 3: Do we need that?
Speaker 6: Yes we do, Yes we do, and and and and
Speaker 6: and I advocate it absolutely. Unity is the only thing
Speaker 6: we talked about, American unity. Let's let's tweak it down
Speaker 6: to hip hop unity. Hip hop is the greatest urban
Speaker 6: movement to hit human history. Let's just start human history. Okay,
Speaker 6: human history, Okay, hip hop breaking him seeing graffiti, DJ
Speaker 6: and beatboxing. You can add street fashion, language, knowledge, all
Speaker 6: of that, that movement in the hood. That that right there,
Speaker 6: hip hop is is what America really is. It's like
Speaker 6: the true declaration of Independence. It's what America is. But
Speaker 6: we got these old people. You ask me also about
Speaker 6: hip hop's old school. Okay, I have respect for the
Speaker 6: old school. We all we should. Those are the ancestors,
Speaker 6: those are the elders, those are the fathers, godfathers and
Speaker 6: so on. That's that's what it is, right. But when
Speaker 6: you don't do your job. You don't deserve the respect
Speaker 6: of the youth. Elders always asking for respect that they
Speaker 6: don't deserve me. I try to earn the respect of
Speaker 6: the youth. I don't look down on them. I think
Speaker 6: they're smarter than me. I think they're faster than me.
Speaker 6: I think they think of things beyond what I can
Speaker 6: think about.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: Of course I tell them, Hey, look, I'm the old
Speaker 6: head in the room, and I like that shit. I'm fifty.
Speaker 6: Fuck this shit, Okay, that's my shit. I got an
Speaker 6: AARP cord.
Speaker 1: Dude, got this.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. What fifty percent off hotels? What? Yo?
Speaker 3: Let me tell you. Okay, we yo, we're the eldest
Speaker 3: in this.
Speaker 6: Young people are supposed to look up to us and
Speaker 6: be like, Yo, that's what it means to be fifty
Speaker 6: in hip hop world. You got your knowledge downpack, your
Speaker 6: family straight, you got your money right, You're doing your thing.
Speaker 6: That's what young people need to see and see. More blueprint,
Speaker 6: the blueprint. Now we're gonna do it. Shows like this,
Speaker 6: your ship bringing people together right now as we speak.
Speaker 6: Right now, as we speak, dude is hearing what it is.
Speaker 6: What we gotta do is really unite And here's what
Speaker 6: it's gonna take. Here's you asked this about to stop
Speaker 6: the violence movement? About why brothers ain't doing that today?
Speaker 6: What like what we're so hard to do that today?
Speaker 6: Too much, too much competition, not enough cooperation. Okay, we
Speaker 6: live in a capitalist sidey we we we we live
Speaker 6: in a capitalist society where uh uh, where competition.
Speaker 3: Is the number one order of the day.
Speaker 6: So the young a train to kill the all so
Speaker 6: that you can get so that you could be what
Speaker 6: it is the younger train to kill the all? The
Speaker 6: all a train to kill the young so you can
Speaker 6: stay in power. Kill these young as as they coming up.
Speaker 2: What you take hip hop the only generation like you know,
Speaker 2: the brothers could talk forever.
Speaker 1: Why do they try to kill the older?
Speaker 3: Well, it's that it's that competition. It's still competition.
Speaker 6: Look when we start, when we stop thinking of hip
Speaker 6: hop as a music and start thinking of it as
Speaker 6: a culture, a nation.
Speaker 3: A community.
Speaker 6: When you start realizing that you are a nation, you're
Speaker 6: a sovereign nation, all we gotta do is unite.
Speaker 4: There's no ages, just just unite.
Speaker 6: Just here's the unity I hear it is. Let's print
Speaker 6: our own currency. All right, start right. This is the
Speaker 6: unity of any nation starts with trust. We print one
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars for every hip hop citizen in existence.
Speaker 6: We have a million citizens. We print one hundred million
Speaker 6: of our currency.
Speaker 3: We get.
Speaker 4: Currency.
Speaker 6: Right, he'll be a fifty cent I'm coming right now here.
Speaker 6: He'll be a fifty cent piece of fifties.
Speaker 3: Worth more than that.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying, no, print our own currency.
Speaker 1: And let's see if the people spend that.
Speaker 4: No, they will. You'll be instantly rich.
Speaker 2: So instead of people buying albums, we give them, give
Speaker 2: them currency.
Speaker 6: Buy our currency, not an albums. Right, I forget selling
Speaker 6: an album.
Speaker 3: We did that. We know that game.
Speaker 6: Now let's sell currencies in which you got the KRS currency.
Speaker 6: And dude, be like, yo, this shit is worth this
Speaker 6: this week up against the American dollar against this is
Speaker 6: the end, up against the euro, up against the ship. Yo. Look,
Speaker 6: if you gave me one hundred thousand dollar, let's say
Speaker 6: you get no, let's say I gave you one hundred
Speaker 6: thousand Okay, I'll give you one hundred thousand hip hop
Speaker 6: currency currency Okay, hip hop.
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna spend it with my man.
Speaker 6: Right here, what we want is specialized people to have
Speaker 6: this money.
Speaker 3: Electricians. Right now, hip hop is old enough.
Speaker 6: We got doctors, lawyers, your ps workers, We got all
Speaker 6: kinds of entrepreneurs, okay, huge entrepreneurs. All we gotta do
Speaker 6: is trade our own currency with each other, with each other.
Speaker 6: This hip hop is it own stores, farms. Look due,
Speaker 6: funk that American dollar.
Speaker 4: D I here, I can't, can't.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see if you're gonna hit the blind.
Speaker 3: This is brown ship.
Speaker 6: No, no, I gotta be up till four in the
Speaker 6: morning to the plastic I'm noting its plastic.
Speaker 3: Ship.
Speaker 1: Ger enjoint. We gotta joint. We gotta joint.
Speaker 2: Somewhere around here, somewhere around your care rest. I love
Speaker 2: you so much much, man, Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining us and being a great sport.
Speaker 1: Took a drink, you even tried to smoke.
Speaker 3: You didn't want to drink.
Speaker 2: Bring you back to the old school. Dude, brother, I'm
Speaker 2: a dude. Pass over there, can pass it over there,
Speaker 2: that's the drink. We gotta take one picture with you
Speaker 2: over there, came green. There's no way I could thank
Speaker 2: you ever in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm be in your video.
Speaker 3: We have a home.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm being your video, but it's no way I
Speaker 1: can thank you ever in life.
Speaker 2: Because this is this is actually like one of the
Speaker 2: first hip hop albums I ever listened to.
Speaker 1: This man right here, one of the first.
Speaker 2: People that ever said that I thought about, Like my
Speaker 2: Mom's like what you're.
Speaker 1: Going to be in life? And I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I knew I couldn't be a teacher,
Speaker 1: not like you.
Speaker 4: But I am a teacher, but not like you.
Speaker 1: I'm a different teacher because I show him a different past.
Speaker 1: But if I've never already heard you, I would have
Speaker 1: never wanted to speak. I will never be here.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I'm saying. So Hakim Green, you
Speaker 2: know that's my brother. He called me, and when he
Speaker 2: called me, I said, I knew the number, but I
Speaker 2: hit him back.
Speaker 6: You know, I just said a record with hot called
Speaker 6: Madism Sucking.
Speaker 2: Madness, And he got a website. Right, come on, come
Speaker 2: over here, come over here, ahead, hit that money.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you shout out your website.
Speaker 9: Green, We got the madism dot org popping off, the
Speaker 9: Ultimate cannabis journal. You know you got to you got
Speaker 9: the Madism popping off internationally. It's big money right now.
Speaker 9: I want to make sure my people get a taste
Speaker 9: of that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 9: So see us off at madism dot org. So you
Speaker 9: can keep up with all the latest grow techniques. You
Speaker 9: know what I mean. Grow When you say grow, listen,
Speaker 9: I'm talking about cannabis. I'm talking about that goodness, that
Speaker 9: chronic that. You know what we do, what we got
Speaker 9: going on? Your casts need to know how to grow
Speaker 9: for themselves. It's not not just about smoking it, but
Speaker 9: industrial head is a multi billion A pipe in the
Speaker 9: mail you got, Yeah, I got the whole. We got
Speaker 9: the hot box.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 9: How we are different ways of you know, the vapor, got,
Speaker 9: the smoke in the leaves, the paper, the blood, whole,
Speaker 9: we got the hot box. It's just a special way
Speaker 9: of inhaling.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's real, real good is important.
Speaker 1: I got one more.
Speaker 4: Ye Are you a vegetarian?
Speaker 3: What are you? Yeah? Yes?
Speaker 1: So you don't eat no fish?
Speaker 4: No, I try to eat.
Speaker 3: I lean toward a vegetarian die, but I do eat fish.
Speaker 3: You eat fish? How about you?
Speaker 9: I'm not a vegetarian, right, but I am about my health.
Speaker 9: I do a lot of juicing and I say, you
Speaker 9: keep up with the bartender?
Speaker 3: Were trying? Happy about that? Trying up? Did I drink?
Speaker 4: You're running?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for bugging this saying my brother Yo,
Speaker 2: I called you Chris for the first time.
Speaker 4: In my life.
Speaker 1: I never called you Chris. No, no, what you know
Speaker 1: what it's through the records. It's like I never knew
Speaker 1: if I had the ability to call you Chris. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much.
Speaker 3: I appreciate with.
Speaker 1: Greatest sport you actually sat down and drink. I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: away with it. Shout out to thank you so much everybody.
Speaker 1: Let's take this, Let's take speck.
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