WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ KRS-One | (Ep. 5)

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's something y'all was going on?

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<v Speaker 2>But he's a legendary Queen's rapper.

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<v Speaker 3>Is your boy in I E.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is dj

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<v Speaker 4>E f N?

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<v Speaker 5>Together they drink it up with some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 5>players in music and sports? You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the most professional unprofessional podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>This is drinks every day is New Year's Eve. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>hay hank Segreea. This is your boy in r E.

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<v Speaker 4>What up this d J E f N?

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<v Speaker 2>And right now we are blessed with the legendary.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye blessed, So we gotta we gotta make some noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, because the intro was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy right here, like listen, listen, they have

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<v Speaker 2>the they have the Godfathers, and this man is directly

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<v Speaker 2>like my father in lyrics, like in in style, and

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<v Speaker 2>I directly tried to be like this man right here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I send out the APB try to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's big up a Hakeem Green off top Channel Channel

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<v Speaker 2>Live Squark Madism. We love you, Haqeen. But we got

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<v Speaker 2>the blast Master, we got the teacher, we got the

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<v Speaker 2>father directly Temple of Hip Hop, all that. The Master,

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<v Speaker 2>the dude who made it cool to learn in music

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<v Speaker 2>and still be entertained.

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<v Speaker 4>You could be smart and you could still Doug Get

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<v Speaker 4>the fuck out, yo.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day, I'm gonna be honest, I'm watching Ride

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<v Speaker 2>Along Too. And at the end of Ride Along Too,

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<v Speaker 2>my kids they are eight and they are six, and

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<v Speaker 2>they sung, they said, whoa, whoa, this the son out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Police.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that moment, I knew I was a great father.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew at that very moment, I was a great

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<v Speaker 2>father when my kids knew the sign of the police.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the one and only legendary you can't say

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop without KRS one in the building. Drake tails Man,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Yo, you know what the crazy shi

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I'm gonna start the interview offs like this.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was locked up in a juvenile detention center,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a.

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<v Speaker 1>CEO who was taking care of me right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, you know, holding me down, and he could

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<v Speaker 2>have snuck me weed, he could have snucked me liquor,

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<v Speaker 2>he could have snucked me books.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted that criminal minded. This is real ship.

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<v Speaker 1>This is you know how much of a big KRS fan.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the track I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Is y'all to together that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the biggest kress One fan. Man, Let's just make

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<v Speaker 2>some noise for him being in the building.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, come on, cheers, cheers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, yo, we got the fucked up most naked So.

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<v Speaker 2>Blast master karas One. How does it feel to be

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<v Speaker 2>in Miami? How long you been coming out here?

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<v Speaker 6>Man, don't even know we get into the history of that, right, yo. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>I've been coming to Miami since what like eighty seven?

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<v Speaker 6>We were coming up here, man, struggling, trying to be heard,

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<v Speaker 6>and there was only a few places that actually like

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<v Speaker 6>embraced us. Philly was always right there. Philly, Philadelphia, just

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<v Speaker 6>the whole Philly. Is that like we went from New

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<v Speaker 6>York to Philly.

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<v Speaker 1>That was let me start.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think that New York artists is that like

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<v Speaker 2>the first market? Is that that is for me too?

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<v Speaker 2>Like Philly was the first? Then Connecticut, Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And see and look how you said that Philly was

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<v Speaker 6>the next, and then Connecticut. Connecticut is right on top,

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<v Speaker 6>like right there next to the Bronx. Philly would get

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<v Speaker 6>it first. Philly would hit you first if you did

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<v Speaker 6>New York in Philly, Connecticut Yonkers all up Boston was

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<v Speaker 6>trying to see you. Maybe some of the South like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So going down the I, I and five, man was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, big up the VA, North Kaka, Lax, South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 6>It was sort of like a rights of passage. You

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<v Speaker 6>had to get out of New York, go down each city,

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<v Speaker 6>each state on the I nine to five, and your

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<v Speaker 6>final victory was Miami if you made it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you talking about Oh man, see this what MC's

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<v Speaker 3>was real? Straight up.

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<v Speaker 6>You had to do clubs. Let me take you to

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<v Speaker 6>the nineties. Let's come around ninety two. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 6>somewhere around nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Right around there, college was just starting. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>thing called the Temple before that, even before that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>mother Superior.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait wait, actually I got you know who war is.

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<v Speaker 5>No, he's this guy who interviews people and he brings

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<v Speaker 5>out props that would remind you of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is what I got. Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make some noise tennis ball.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my autograph too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's authentic, authentic, So you put that on e BIT.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a show supposed to be at the spot

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<v Speaker 5>Cast underground compound and it got shut down by the cops.

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<v Speaker 4>And we moved it to Zulu headquarters. That's right. There

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<v Speaker 4>was no the AC wasn't on.

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<v Speaker 3>We took the people were faking in the audio. It

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<v Speaker 3>was one of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And he started throwing these balls. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>That was ninety three four.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in high schools, like ninety two, ninety three at.

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<v Speaker 3>The least, at the least, right, well, let's start it

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<v Speaker 3>right there. That's what was.

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<v Speaker 1>He been coming to Miami since then.

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<v Speaker 6>Since then, breaking it down, crushing Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't a hip hop scene out here back then.

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<v Speaker 6>Well back then, Luke was the man out here. Two

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<v Speaker 6>Live Crew was straight just straw in the South like

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<v Speaker 6>was there was nothing else really happening, to be honest

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<v Speaker 6>with you. But there was always that boom back element

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<v Speaker 6>in I mean just I just have to say Florida

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<v Speaker 6>because you know from Miami all the way up to

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<v Speaker 6>what Tallahassee, even even Gainesville, Jacksonville or that boom bap

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<v Speaker 6>that that's all hard core op then.

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<v Speaker 5>But Luke, but there was that divide it for us

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<v Speaker 5>in the city between the fay scene and the n scene.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, there wasn't divide. I mean, it had its

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<v Speaker 6>own audience. You know what I'm saying. It had its

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<v Speaker 6>own It.

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<v Speaker 5>Was seen a lot as a New York thing, right,

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<v Speaker 5>but we were trying to build that identity for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think it was way smaller. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>the New York thing was way smaller. Two Live Crew

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<v Speaker 6>Luke Luke that whole sound.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying from the beginning, when Tu Live Coup came,

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<v Speaker 2>the South immediately accepted them as opposed to new in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. You had to be hot in New York first. No,

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<v Speaker 2>actually you go to Philly. Wait a minute, the second

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<v Speaker 2>part is true. Yes, you had to be hot in

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<v Speaker 2>New York first to go to Philly. With the exception

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<v Speaker 2>of like Tap Money three Times, Dove, Steady b even

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<v Speaker 2>Jazzy Cheff, Fresh Prince Uh, they blew up in Philly

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<v Speaker 2>and convinced New York what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>But you have back then the base scene. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 6>to think of dudes that were not so popular, but

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<v Speaker 6>Miami had a base scene that let me come on,

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<v Speaker 6>that's right, and there were these dudes with.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>So Lutha Campbell and Two Live Crew was on top

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<v Speaker 6>of that. They came up out of that scene. They

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<v Speaker 6>didn't really invent it, but they was just sort of

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<v Speaker 6>the the popular ones that that that was doing it,

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<v Speaker 6>and Luke was just I went to one of these

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<v Speaker 6>concerts one night, Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't believe what was going on.

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<v Speaker 6>And then on top of that, what makes it really

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<v Speaker 6>really hip hop on on on that level is that

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<v Speaker 6>two Live Crew was was the ones that were dragged

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<v Speaker 6>into court on obscenity charges and had they lost that case,

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<v Speaker 6>rock would be sounding a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make no noise for that happen. Pick yet out.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when you roll in the blunt man, stop and

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<v Speaker 2>clap your hands, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the blast master in the building, all right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You got that, you got that, that that thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to set up alright, play that, play that

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<v Speaker 2>real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play something for you.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the one of the greatest calls I ever

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<v Speaker 2>got in my life, and it set up as it's

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<v Speaker 2>cool hurt, what's uping brother? That's right, My brother was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. Man, I just missed your call. Man, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got you on speaker for him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let them let them dudes know baby, Let them dudes

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<v Speaker 2>know you the godfather that hip hop cool Hurt, not.

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<v Speaker 6>Number one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, baby, you the original o G. Yeah, that's right. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I love you absolutely, you know I love

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<v Speaker 1>you to death. Cool work man, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, baby, hold on, I'm gonna take this off

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<v Speaker 2>of the system and you can speak private.

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<v Speaker 1>But yo, man, just let the people know one more time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my Dyslexia album. Man, tell them niggas.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got an album called Dyslexia, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you man.

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<v Speaker 2>This this, this is the godfather, Cool Hurt of the

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<v Speaker 2>game speaking to y'all, fucking assholes. Cool Hurt right here,

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<v Speaker 2>the father, not the godfather.

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<v Speaker 4>Secondary you got father, the father?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, my brother, hold on, I gonna hit you

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<v Speaker 2>right back, I Hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>So one day I got a call from Cool Hurt, okay, right, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is for me. I'm a real hip hop guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I respect everything that came before me. And when Cool

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<v Speaker 2>Hurt called me, I had call him something.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you're the godfather of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said it once and he let us lie,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I said it again and he let us lie.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the third time I said it, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, Cork, let these motherfuckers know you the godfather of

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, normal, hold on, let me stop you. I

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<v Speaker 1>am the father. Do you agree with that statement? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with the statement.

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<v Speaker 6>There's huge debate on it, okay, because everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 6>take credit for hip hop now for its origins, we called,

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<v Speaker 6>technically to be scholarly correct, Coolhark is called the recognized

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<v Speaker 6>father of hip hop, the recognized father of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 6>We call him the father of hip hop, all right.

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<v Speaker 6>And the reason we call him the father of hip

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<v Speaker 6>hop is because Bam called him the father of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 6>Grandmaster Kaz called him the father of hip hop, Peewee Dance,

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<v Speaker 6>and Grandmaster Flash from this group called him the father

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<v Speaker 6>of hip hop. Now, this is a family situation. All

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<v Speaker 6>these guys, we all know each other and they.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're their younger homies.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, no doubt, no doubt. Her calls me the

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<v Speaker 6>son of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, because okay, let me break it down for me,

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<v Speaker 2>right for me, all right, for me. When I heard

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<v Speaker 2>her say that he was the father, I automatically saluted

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<v Speaker 2>that never and then I thought of Bambata as the godfather,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I think of you Rock Kim, Big Daddy

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<v Speaker 2>Kane as the father's right and then then after that

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<v Speaker 2>comes Wu Tang like where are your little cousins, Wu Tang,

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<v Speaker 2>Mob Deep the Fat, Joe's the component, Noriega's the mop.

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<v Speaker 2>We're actually your sons direct like I don't know Pauls.

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<v Speaker 2>I know New Generation, but you're actually our father, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You rock him Big Daddy Kane.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I have to ask this question with that

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<v Speaker 2>being said, with the name being like.

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<v Speaker 1>How how is hip hop supposed to respond to the bambada?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how are we supposed to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>What you want to take it from?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know. That's why it said generic question,

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<v Speaker 2>what should we do? Because you being our father? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you say, I have to move accordance to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, with the first of all, controversy is

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<v Speaker 6>not truth. What you want is truth right now? You

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<v Speaker 6>want truth? But truth is also not information. It's not gossip.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not even conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>For me.

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<v Speaker 6>If you keep it hip hop, nothing could be taken

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<v Speaker 6>away from Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>At all. Just keep it hip hop.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you want to dig in the dude's personal

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<v Speaker 6>life and accusations that's being made and so on. Personally, Me, personally,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't give a flock personally. Look if somebody was

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<v Speaker 6>harmed or whatever was done or whatever, y'all deal with

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<v Speaker 6>that ship?

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<v Speaker 3>What what deal with it?

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<v Speaker 6>That don't stop hip hop, that don't stop, take away

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<v Speaker 6>none of the history's history. But deal with your deal

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<v Speaker 6>with that? That's personal. I don't you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>even know what to set past the no. But even

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<v Speaker 6>if you knew the facts, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>A person like me, I deal with with dudes that

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<v Speaker 6>are questionable all the time, not just if if the

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<v Speaker 6>accusation is rape. I I know dudes that are doing

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying. If you if you know

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<v Speaker 6>anybody from prison, if you don't anything to shelter, if

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<v Speaker 6>you know anybody, if you live really in the hoods,

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<v Speaker 6>you know shooters, you know dudes running from the you

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<v Speaker 6>know your man might have an open warrant on them

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<v Speaker 6>right now, like right now, Like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>You know I'm not nudging these motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's my nigga right here, Yo. That's it. Now.

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<v Speaker 6>What you do and your crime and your ship and

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<v Speaker 6>your bullshit. Whatever you do it, that's on you. That's you,

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<v Speaker 6>my ge, that's whatever you're doing. That's how I always

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<v Speaker 6>dealt with I can't pick and choose. Say, Yo, this

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<v Speaker 6>dude right here, I mean I was producing Justice album.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Who's crazy? I heard he came to Queen's Bridge

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<v Speaker 2>by hisself?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this story true?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make some just like every change the subject too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the subject. Let's go yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean here was on America's Most wanted Is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is real?

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<v Speaker 3>This is real hip hop? Shot man.

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<v Speaker 6>Hip hop is in the world like everybody else, like

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<v Speaker 6>every other culture.

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<v Speaker 3>We in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Politicians with dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Politicians with bottom line is we we We are humans, humans,

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<v Speaker 2>We are all humans. But now with that being said, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your favorite EMC battle, Because I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to, you can include yourself if you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>But what is your favorite MC battle?

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<v Speaker 6>To be honest with you, I mean there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>This this is que that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Really whichever comes to the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 6>The first one that comes to my head is Freeway

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<v Speaker 6>in Cassidy.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, Let's make some noise knowing what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's going on in the streets.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, that that's I mean, it's an old battle.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you talk about showmanship, you know, instant rhymes

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<v Speaker 6>on deck right there?

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<v Speaker 4>That was hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I got to ask you about the Drake

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<v Speaker 1>and meek Mill?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you like?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you like?

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<v Speaker 1>It? Was it? It isn't your?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Even at twenty battles?

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<v Speaker 6>I think I think it gave both of them credibility

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<v Speaker 6>in what way? I well, because for me as an MC,

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<v Speaker 6>like like when people say top five, Okay, everybody got

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<v Speaker 6>their top five.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you ain't battle, if you ain't did tours,

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<v Speaker 6>if you ain't putting no hits out, if you ain't

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<v Speaker 6>put somebody else on or came from a legacy that

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<v Speaker 6>was wild, you ain't even nowhere near the top five. So, dudes,

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<v Speaker 6>is like, I'm looking for young cats today to really

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<v Speaker 6>rise up to the criteria. First, First, where's your battle?

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<v Speaker 6>You say, you dope, bring it right now? Because this

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<v Speaker 6>nigga's like me out here, like straight up, I stay

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<v Speaker 6>stay hungry. So you claim you hungry, you claim oh yo,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm the mayor humming this and now today with social media,

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<v Speaker 6>you could claim anything and everybody. So with Draking males,

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<v Speaker 6>to me, it gave them the credibility that they needed

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<v Speaker 6>for even me to get them as real mcs. I

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<v Speaker 6>like both of these lyrics. By the way, Drake I

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<v Speaker 6>think is underrated in terms of because maybe he's doing

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<v Speaker 6>the pop thing or whatever, but his lyrics is still

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<v Speaker 6>dope from an MC perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let me I don't I don't want to cut

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<v Speaker 2>you off, but there's been allegations that he had help

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<v Speaker 2>on his lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Writers, you, how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very curious of this look, but because you do

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<v Speaker 2>come from a day where people were writing Bizmarck lyrics

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<v Speaker 2>right and biz Mark was upfront about it ice Cube said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, ice Cube write the rhymes that I say,

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<v Speaker 2>and to me, he was one of the most killer there.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you feel when you found out that

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<v Speaker 2>Drake might have had some help.

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<v Speaker 6>Was that doesn't disturb me at all. It diminishes him

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<v Speaker 6>in front of those that write their own lyrics. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>now those of us just spit the raw from our

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<v Speaker 6>own heart. You really got to step up and come

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<v Speaker 6>up to the played on that level. But we're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about m seeing as a whole art, talk about rap

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<v Speaker 6>as a whole art. No, if you got a dope

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<v Speaker 6>writer that can make you sound like something, God ahead

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<v Speaker 6>and get with dude. The issue is writing. This is

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<v Speaker 6>the issue writing dope rhymes. I don't give a funk

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<v Speaker 6>where it comes from.

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<v Speaker 3>Writer whoever.

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<v Speaker 6>Some of the dopest dudes and I'm not gonna call

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<v Speaker 6>no names rhymes.

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<v Speaker 4>You say, Yo, it's like there's secrets in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, the dopest dudes and dude right for them, that's

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<v Speaker 6>not a problem. Now me, I never had the privilege

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<v Speaker 6>of anyone writing for me. Okay, I you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're too smart.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me tell you. Let me tell you. If rock

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<v Speaker 6>Kim came to me with a rhyme, I just say.

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<v Speaker 1>That ship this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I say that this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ike you listen, Drake sent me to check.

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<v Speaker 1>I have just said you just saved you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are that cool and every community y krs has

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<v Speaker 2>set it on a drink chest podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's okay, No, I'm okay, look, not real spinners,

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<v Speaker 6>that right, they rhymes.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll never be okay with real spinners, it right?

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<v Speaker 6>They shit Okay, but that's our lane, that's our category.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a level of excellence that you have to get to. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 6>but my issue is, look, here's the opposite. Some dude

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<v Speaker 6>write your rhymes and they whack and you say them

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<v Speaker 6>ships anyway. I heard dudes say why rhymes that they

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<v Speaker 6>ain't even write. That's corny. Okay, But if you got

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<v Speaker 6>a real shooter with you, dude is right and raw shit.

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<v Speaker 6>Well make sure he paid the brother. Make sure he

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<v Speaker 6>gets some credit at some point in your career. Say

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<v Speaker 6>that ship, say that dope shit. Hip hop needs dope lyrics.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't need dope MC's understand, we need dope lyrics.

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<v Speaker 6>We need to write. I don't care where it comes from.

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<v Speaker 6>Your moms could write you some ship. That ship is

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<v Speaker 6>don't lyrics.

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<v Speaker 4>You're saying it's just a vessel.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just the MC's or the vessel. Look, if you

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<v Speaker 6>really get down to it, I don't write my own lyrics.

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<v Speaker 6>God writes my lyrics, goddamn it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you.

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<v Speaker 6>Think about it, none of us are writing our own lyrics.

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<v Speaker 6>We all any MC that writes his lyrics. You know

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<v Speaker 6>you're sitting there with the panda patter, whatever your phone,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it is, and you hum your ship out.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear that ship from someplace else. You're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Criminal mands, so I know what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>And DJ don't even start with that.

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<v Speaker 6>You as producers, you hear the beats before you hit

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<v Speaker 6>the thing. You know what you're gonna do before you

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<v Speaker 6>do it. You hum it out, you bang it out,

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<v Speaker 6>but you hear something. So no one is original, no

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<v Speaker 6>art is original. We are all being influenced by everything

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<v Speaker 6>and everyone. The corny motherfucker is the one who doesn't say, yo,

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<v Speaker 6>my g wrote this. Give it three years, four years.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you made some success after he got on

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<v Speaker 6>speaking man, acknowledgement, acknowledge your dude, man, Yo, this is

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<v Speaker 6>what it is. Hit him with his cash, yo. He

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<v Speaker 6>know you know he helped you get where You gotta go.

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<v Speaker 6>Hit him with his cash. Make sure he's good and

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<v Speaker 6>his family is good. That's respecting hip hop. That's big

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<v Speaker 6>respect Now in.

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<v Speaker 2>This day, like a lot of the ogs, they'll sit

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<v Speaker 2>back and they'll be like, you know, I don't like this,

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<v Speaker 2>or do you listen to what's going on now?

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<v Speaker 3>Or no. They had their chance, they're over finished. They

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<v Speaker 3>had the chances. That ship is over. That ship so

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<v Speaker 3>fu all that old school, all that shit's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok you do listen to the new school?

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, I listen to everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Okay, I listen to everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just with my man La Sunshine. He put

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<v Speaker 6>a book out. We was just kicking it up in

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<v Speaker 6>the Bronx. That's my g right there, coum o D

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<v Speaker 6>that's my G. Busy b No doubt. These are my dogs,

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<v Speaker 6>no doubt. But let me let me let me see

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<v Speaker 6>Joey badass right now, let me see you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying, like like I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to call names, but I'm just.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me just say.

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<v Speaker 6>Please please, you know, but no, I listen to everything, man,

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<v Speaker 6>I just yeah, I just absorb it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you having that attitude because now I

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<v Speaker 2>am They call me a og. Now thirty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 2>You know hip hop was born in what yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hip hop, Well, seventy three is a scholarly seventy three.

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<v Speaker 1>I was born in seventy seven. So now they calling

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<v Speaker 1>me a og.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to sit back and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give back to this life. So we we we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. I want to give people like you a

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<v Speaker 2>platform to say whatever the fuck you want to see

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<v Speaker 2>anytime you yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't get another drink.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, this has been one of my.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh accomplishments in life. You know, people got bucket lists.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, You've always been a person that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned from.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, whether you know it direct or indirect. They ain't

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<v Speaker 2>even asked me to pass the blank. Some foul people,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's okay, I understand from kindle, so I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking so you directly, you directly. Somebody said to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me the other day, it's that jay Z and Jada

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<v Speaker 2>Kiss raised me with their bars and they fucked me

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<v Speaker 2>up because I was like, damn well.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I always told.

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<v Speaker 2>People, if you take care of as one and then

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<v Speaker 2>you take a little bit of Biz mocky and a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of granddaddy I you, that's when you get

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<v Speaker 2>in our e.

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<v Speaker 1>But you notice I never took none of your styles.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, all right, that's that's three totally

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<v Speaker 2>different people.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's who made.

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<v Speaker 2>Me because you taught me that black is beautiful and

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<v Speaker 2>be yourself. Biz taught me. Biz taught me life. Ain't

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 2>that serious, homie? How so fucking fun? And then granddaddy

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you told me how to be exact opposite of him

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 2>because he was so smooth, Like I feel like Granddaddy

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:29.400
<v Speaker 2>You was like.

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<v Speaker 1>The cainge that never I'm gonna take it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my first interview ever smoking you know, big of

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<v Speaker 2>haw King Green, My brother, my brother. Another legend is

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<v Speaker 2>in the building, spark madism. Let's just get into that, man,

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.439
<v Speaker 2>how did spark madism come about?

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<v Speaker 3>Damn Well?

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, Hawk was a was a school teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I never knew that let's make some noise the school.

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<v Speaker 1>What the teacher? Okay, what's the teacher?

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<v Speaker 6>So he was one of the many teachers and professors

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<v Speaker 6>I was rolling with about ninety three. Hot rolled up

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 6>and said, yo, so he kept coming to my lectures.

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 6>I was doing lectures around, so he kept coming to

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:14.719
<v Speaker 6>the lectures. So I said, you know, you look like

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<v Speaker 6>you were MC. It looked like you know, you get there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>He was just started that's right, little twists, and I said, Yo,

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 6>you look like a MC. He was like, wow, how

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 6>did you so make a long story short?

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<v Speaker 3>I heard him.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved it, but I said, the solo MC thing

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<v Speaker 6>not going to work. We need two people. This is

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<v Speaker 6>like Das's effects was hitting nice and smooth. Signed yes

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<v Speaker 6>well technically to my wife Jem mad g Simone was

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 6>running Front Page Records. Technically Korest was with the label

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 6>Channel Live Mad Lion for a minute, even Fat Joe,

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 6>But we was closing the label at the closing the

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 6>company management company at the time when Joe just started

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<v Speaker 6>to blow.

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<v Speaker 3>We was just coming down.

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<v Speaker 6>On on on that level, same thing with excuse me,

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<v Speaker 6>praz and and no not before they would have oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>actually the refuge geez it was just prose.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had a chance to sign yes.

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<v Speaker 6>We we we We did some of their first shows.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, no, no, no, that was not no. We

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 6>wasn't in no position whatsoever to deal with them. They

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 6>they you could white Cluff used to pull out a

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<v Speaker 6>guitar that he still does in the middle of a.

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 3>He still doesn't.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 4>He just walking out like you know.

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<v Speaker 6>We was like, you know what, you got ahead and

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<v Speaker 6>uh but but it was dope. So anyway, we got

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<v Speaker 6>in the studio and you know, I grew up in

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 6>a herb culture, you know what I'm saying. I grew

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<v Speaker 6>up in Flatbush, Brooklyn Church Avenue right there and Erasmus

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 6>High School, wing Gate High School, shout out.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 4>The Prospect Park, the whole nine.

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 6>So I grew up there in the seventies when you

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 6>were born seventies seventy seven, I was in the parks.

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Memory, we went in Brooklyn and bro you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get Brooklyn some process?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that?

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:19.239
<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Hockey?

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>So there we was in Flatbush.

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<v Speaker 6>So I grew up in in in herb culture and

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<v Speaker 6>not from the point of view like oh, we.

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Just gonna smoke mud.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 6>I was with with Rosters and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 6>You had the Bible open, dudes was smoking towards the

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 6>east chilice burned down room. Every time the childice burned,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 6>you had to say, yo. We was like in that

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 6>culture for real. So it was like I grew up

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 6>with like no problem, Like yo, burn the bud Why

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 6>is no big deal? What moved up to the bronx

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 6>when I became homeless, like around nineteen eighty one or two.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 6>So that story is true, you was, oh, yeah, no

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 6>doubt about four years. That's how I met Scott Larad.

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 6>Wow he was a social worker in the shelter. But

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 6>we'll get back to that, okay.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 3>So I grew up in the culture.

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<v Speaker 6>So for me, Peter Tash since nineteen seventy one was

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 6>yelling for the legalization of marijuana. Since seventy one, everybody

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 6>know that. You know, the judges are smoking, the cops smoke.

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 6>The doctor's been saying, this is the safest plant. In fact,

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 6>this is the healing of the nation. This right here,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 6>all timers, cancers, you name it.

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Herb is the healing for that.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 6>But now you got this tax issue, and you got

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 6>this dude that don't want to give up their power.

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 6>They get more money and more power selling it illegally.

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 6>You really don't want the government selling weed. You really

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 6>don't want that because the ideas that it's.

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Gonna get whack.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 6>It's like whatever the government put they they can't even

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 6>teach English correctly, Like you know what I'm saying, Like

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 6>anything that the government puts his hand in, it starts

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 6>to get sterough, it starts to get wag. You don't

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 6>have no competition water it down. So dude is like, nah,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 6>we want to grow that shit right there in Mexico,

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 6>right there, in Afghanistan right there up and now Colorado, Seattle.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 6>They just went rogue with it and just said, you

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 6>know what, We're just going to do it. And I

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 6>think it was done for the kids in the area

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 6>because they're not locking their kids up, you know what

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 3>They're not going to do that.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 6>They rather change the laws than see their kids in

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 6>the family go through that. That's why I think it

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 6>really got legalized. You could cite medical list or medical that,

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 6>but really it's an issue of going to prison. Families

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 6>have been ruined by just smoking a joint or having

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 6>herb on you. This is a plant that grows in

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 6>the world. Like, how is the government like even allowed

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 6>to tell you how you should think? Like that's to

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 6>be like like if I smoke butt and I'm like, yeah,

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 6>I feel great on this, Why are you telling me

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<v Speaker 6>I don't like the use of the word nigga for instance,

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 6>same shit, this is my nigga right there. I know

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying, nigga, I got three PhDs, nigga, I

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 6>write books, nigga. What I know what the fuck I'm saying.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 6>But Nah, black people ain't supposed to think. We're not

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 6>supposed to have governance over our own mouth, over our

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 6>own thinking. So if I tell you, listen when I

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 6>say my nigga. I'm talking. I really mean my brother.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 6>Listen to how I say it, my nigga, that's my

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 6>brother right there.

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 6>I just told you what it is. The problem is

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 6>there's no law in the United States made by black

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 6>people that white people are bound to respect. Imagine we

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 6>follow all their laws. What law they follow of ours?

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.479
<v Speaker 6>There's no Latino brother the kings. I said, look, this

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 6>is what helps Latino people right here, y'all. We want blacks, whites, everybody.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna follow our laws. We follow the Constitution, we

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 6>follow state ordinances.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>All that's white law.

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 6>But here's now the Native American law while we not. Nah,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 6>this country's not built on following anybody else's law except

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.719
<v Speaker 6>their own. And when it comes to marijuana, it becomes

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 6>an issue of freedom of thought, like this is how

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 6>I think. Do you have the right to tell me

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 6>what state of mind I should be into? Like, no,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 6>this is the state of mind that I feel I

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 6>should be in. And as a matter of fact, the

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 6>US Constitution, it's federal law to be happy in the

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:44.959
<v Speaker 6>United States. The pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 6>of happiness.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>So if you get happiness, that's illegal.

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 6>If you're sad and depressed in the US, you broke

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 6>federal law. Wow, you broke federal law. The government should

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 6>be doing the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 3>The spirit of it.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 6>It's all about liberty, justice, freedom, happiness for all. The

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 6>pursuit of happiness is law.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna change it up real quick.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Come on, a crazy hip hop story is you went

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 2>to the Palladium and you three PM down off the stage.

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get this story that makes a noise story.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>You yo, that's really like you. You've been my hero.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>But like it's like that's when I made my choice

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>from Malcolm and Martin. It was like Martin, like I

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>still think Mario was killing people at night, like when

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>he went.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I think I still think mar was a shoot up,

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Still in my heart, in my heart. But but Malcolm,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Malcolm was like, straight up, I'm gonna shoot you back.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So when Chris.

0:32:56.280 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 2>Chris, I'm very I feel like I'm honored to So

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I felt like the minute you threw PM down on stages, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he could teach me and he'll still we.

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what I wanted.

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly.

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>So what did he do for you to throw him

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>off the stage? I never really got that part of

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you want the scholarly approach.

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 6>Approach, okay, yeah, yeah, So dude start mouthing off in

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 6>Details magazine. Okay, now this is now, this is the

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 6>mood that we're in. Around this time, I think I

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 6>forgot what year.

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<v Speaker 3>This was eighty eight? No, no, no, oh no, it

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>was ninety two. Ninety two. Okay, it's ninety two, and

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It the Pladium was No, it wasn't the play It

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 6>was a small club in Manhattan. I don't remember that.

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 6>It was one of them clubs that had like car wash.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Was it wasn't.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 6>That wasn't the name of the of the place. That's

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 6>just the name of the night, the night right it was.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 6>It sounds fast, so sound factory.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait a minute, Now here's the mood of it.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Ninety two.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, around this time, this is when, like you said,

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 6>knowledge was just hitting hip hop. Hip hop was some

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 6>ignorant as. Okay, of course you did have run DMC,

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 6>you had Houdini, you had those who are actually rocking

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 6>on on a supposedly more intelligent level, especially Run DMC

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 6>with it's like that and and all type of records.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to salute you in the mid interview. Just

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 2>do that, Okay, you know what I'm saying. First off,

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 2>you know the viewers to know caras One is drinking

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 2>of my time and drinking.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 1>With a drink.

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 2>If you have traveled, you probably don't know what the

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>fuck of my tie is. Okay, So this is you got.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>This is a Hawaii drink. I would like to you

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>continue to drink. That's how you know.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm making money for long he was in Tahiti

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 3>or something. I mean I'm with this ship.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, thank you for thank you for coming again.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Thanks opening your door. Okay. So anyway, so anyway, so

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 3>so the mood and nothing.

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm good. I'm gonna get you later though. Look this

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 6>this mood this time is when I had just put

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 6>out you must learn to stop the violence movement?

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Why is that?

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And then what is what's the door?

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:26.479
<v Speaker 3>And joint?

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>What's the joint?

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 3>He got out?

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why why did.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't just me.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Well he did say he tested more people. Yes, okay.

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 6>In his Details magazine he had said something pertaining to

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 6>the fact he said n w A is nothing. Chuck

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 6>d is making mountains out of mole hills, and chaos.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 6>One is chaos. One wants to be a teacher, but

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 6>a teacher of what. And for me it didn't matter

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 6>for me, but Chuck at the time was receiving death

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 6>threats because of the controversy with Griff. Griffith had the

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 6>Jewish comments, griff had made a statement, so Public Enemy

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 6>was under real heat in America. Okay, and this dude

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 6>just sold like a million records, so I had a

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 6>really good year, you know, selling records. So he's just

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 6>mouthing off like it's our time now these these.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Dudes.

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Story about you know, these dudes is over.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 6>N w A, Ain't you nothing, Chuck de Public Enemy

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:32.959
<v Speaker 6>ain't saying nothing.

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Ka arrest this. So I let it go for a minute.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>So this, this was like over months.

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 6>This no, no, no, no, this is over a peer and

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't just him. So I had also a little

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 6>running with X Clan around the same time. Okay, me

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 6>and ex Clan were going back and forth with with

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 6>I mean brother Jay.

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Was you know, calling me Captain human.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>And this that and the other.

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:04.479
<v Speaker 6>Well it wasn't that wasn't directed to us, but it

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 6>was them yeah and if and if you're battling me,

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 6>then maybe it was wow. So there was ex clam

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 6>bam chilled it all out back then was right, okay,

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 6>So he cooled.

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 3>It all out.

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 6>We had a press conference and just kissed the maid up.

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 6>That was into that cool. But there were others dudes

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 6>in the hood. They for some reason, they felt people

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 6>felt that if you come out advocating.

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Peace, knowledge, wisdom.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 6>I was coming with you somehow we're supposed to be

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 6>soft or somehow, well you're gonna run up or I don't.

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Know what it was.

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 6>And I was naive because all my dudes was straight gangsters.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.439
<v Speaker 6>Like I'm talking about. I'm trying to take dudes off

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 6>the street. Convince them, yo, we can go on tour. Man,

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 6>you ain't got to do this. You ain't got to

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 6>do that. Dudes is like, Yo, if you can show

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 6>me another way out of here, we could do this.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 6>So I'm trying to take these dudes and we're trying

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 6>to leave the hood. Okay, we're trying to be positive.

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 6>We got to stop the violence.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Movement is let's get to Okaysha baba.

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 6>He just got finished with ex clan with that Lynch

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 6>Mob had made a statement ice Cube self destruction, don't

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 6>pay the fucking rent.

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>This is after something.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Something, this is after all, this is what it is.

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 8>Him.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 3>You ain't gonna.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stop the violence.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 6>And so for some reason they thought it was soft

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 6>in my corner and.

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>So PM doing is not from New York correct, No,

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>what is?

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that was.

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>And so I want to know the altercation.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 6>What did you say something to him or just no, no, no, no, no.

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>No no, this is what happened.

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 6>So he made his allegation, and he made some other

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 6>allegation on the radio or something like that about he

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 6>was ready to battle or something or some kind of

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 6>lyrical something.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, great, let's just take it right

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 3>there and leave it there.

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 6>You calling my name out? What I got to do

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 6>with you. I'm doing my own thing over here. But

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 6>he was riding a wave that was saying that groups

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 6>like NWA, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, they bullshit and

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 6>we this shit, right hood dudes, this bullshit, this is

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 6>the news shit. And so there was a big party

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 6>for Team Money back in the day's tea Money was

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 6>a your MTV raps host with Ed Love and Doctor Trey.

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 6>Big party in New York. Everybody in the industry was there,

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 6>which is why we had two chances. He was gonna

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 6>play in somewhere. He was gonna play with his own show.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 6>He was gonna either go there or we could go

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 6>right here to Manhattan where it was popping. And we said,

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 6>you know what, let's do Manhattan because the industry is there.

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 6>This is Tea Money's birthday party. We said, you know what,

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 6>let's set it straight real quick.

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Right there.

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 6>A couple of other dudes was in the crowd. They

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 6>was called yourko rest ain't shill? What the fun that?

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 6>They went in the crowd too. So when I got there,

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 6>we were so amped, like we was just so And

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 6>when I say we and again, I don't want to

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 6>call no names and put nobody on the line, but

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, just the color of the story and give

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 6>you some background on it. So it was me. There

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 6>was justice. Queen Latifa. Latifa had her crew, naughty by nature,

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 6>Naughty had they.

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Crew because he did naughty and and and them too and.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Them two well, no, no, no, they were just there

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 3>with me.

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 6>This is the early days of flavoring n this is

0:40:50.440 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 6>the early days, early Okay, they all kiddy like, yo,

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 6>when do we go?

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>So you set it up? You know. Let me just

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 1>tell you something.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know that is a trend

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 2>now when a person has a beef with somebody, they

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 2>booked them for a show, and then when the person

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 2>that come out, they'll do one or two songs and then.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>They bum rush the ship. But you set that trend.

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you know that.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know what, Yes, I don't know if we

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 6>didn't mean to, but you set the trend.

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's make some noise.

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Look, he so we went up.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't a setup in the sense that we knew

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 6>we were gonna go there, but we knew we had

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 6>two choices and it was like the day before, so

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 6>we chose this one.

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 2>So did you actually talk to him prior to No, No, no,

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you just waited for him to just.

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 6>Waited for As a matter of fact, the word had

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 6>gotten out because I said, yo, I'm here a battle.

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't about throwing nobody off stage. Listen, I'm still

0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 6>stopped the violence.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like this, that's why it was a controversy.

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 6>So when I jumped up what happened was I think

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 6>one of his boys or something. He had a little

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 6>crew with him and somebody with him. So when we

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 6>jumped on stage, I remember a super Cat. I can't

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 6>even fuck up man super Cat. He said, Chris, let

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 6>me go on first month, let me go on first

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 6>mine before you do thatt me wan first.

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I was like yo, and Cat went on. He did

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 3>his thing. Then PM doing went on.

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 6>We let him get through one song and then we

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 6>all jumped on this stage. It's like, yo, let's battle.

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:36.280
<v Speaker 6>Let's get it popping right now. So the whole crowd

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, let's go. But something happened is man,

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 6>somebody jumped out. It was like, fuck that trying to

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 6>do some ship. It was like, yo, fuck that. We

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 6>were all shoot this my nigga one and't fuck that

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 6>through them niggas off the stage.

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 3>That's what it want. Fuck that, no ship.

0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Yoh, Trey AF just did that tow I love Cannon

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 2>in New York, in New York. This is the fact

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I love I love I love my Cannon. I love

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>for Troy AF. But when it happened, immediately, now you

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>are so I immediately when I seenked it, I said

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>this is I don't even think Troy af know that

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 2>this originated from that very moment. Like if you disrespect

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.240
<v Speaker 2>and you come to the person town, you are liable

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>to go off the stage and drinks is liable to

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 2>throw at you, and you were allowed to feel uncomfortable.

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 2>But you started that trending and applaud you for that, sir,

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Come on one more time, everybody, being.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 5>That we're on the topic of self destruction, stopped the violence.

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 5>One thing that I've always wondered, why do you think

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 5>that we haven't been able to recreate those movements in

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 5>hip hop? Because when that came out and we're on

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 5>the same game came out those records, they were cool to.

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 4>The youth at the time. We love those records. We

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 4>knew the lyrics.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 3>But see the people I.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 5>Know you've been doing, You've done, You've continued to do

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 5>those records, but they haven't touched the pulse of the

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 5>youth anymore.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 6>Now hip hop is not conscious, Okay, Like people got

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 6>to understand that hip hop it's raw essence. That ship

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 6>has got a ghetto. Hip hop is ignorant. Okay, that

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 6>ship is I'm that and it's core. That ship is

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 6>raw ignorance, man, just straight up. But all the best

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 6>things come out of that shit. Okay, the darkness. That's

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 6>where the best ship comes from. Out of this ship. Look,

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 6>it takes feces to make things grow. All we eating

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 6>is ship.

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 3>It is the most honest.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.760
<v Speaker 6>So that's why I say, go back to the movement

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 6>when we did those records, stop the violence and self destruction.

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 6>Look at the dudes that were doing them. Those were

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 6>street du That's why we love Okay, that's why right.

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 6>But now all them dudes got shot up and went

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 6>to jail. Nobody there's no one else, Like maybe some

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 6>younger kids today or maybe some of the younger artists today,

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 6>if they care about their community.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 3>When we were coming up.

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 6>With gangs and excuse me and cruise and stuff like that,

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 6>we cared about the community still, Like we would still

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 6>smack a young kid up and be like, Yo, you

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 6>better go to school, motherfucker. I know your moms. You

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 6>know what I'm saying. You would still get gangs like that.

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 6>Today it's too individualistic. Even dude to a real gangsters,

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 6>they not really in the hood. They do they gangster

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 6>on the phone. They they pushing they thing through on

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 6>different mediums. Now, we didn't have none of this shit

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 6>when we was coming up.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to cut you off, but you know what

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the crazy shit is. I just thought about it, like

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you know hip hop. We got our own little version

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>of chitpling circuit, like where you go. So back then

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 2>in the nineties, I'll say in ninety seven ninety eight,

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I had to go to Virginia. I had to go

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 2>to North Carolina, and when the dude told me, yo,

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I run the block, I had the choices. It was

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>fifteen seconds, not fifteen seconds on the internet, but it's

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 2>fifteen seconds that I had to say I believe him

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 2>or I fucking don't. Right, we didn't have Instagram like

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 2>right now, dude, we were like, yo, I run the town.

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Check my Instagram. Check them that shit don't fucking register

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>with me.

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>But you know what I'm saying, cause they don't have

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a picture with like you know, whoever's the popper popular

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 2>people at the time.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 1>But back then in the nineties, I had to go

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to a.

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Town and I had to make a decision in fifteen seconds.

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.479
<v Speaker 2>When the dude caught me in foot locker and said,

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 2>you're Norri I run the town. Fuck with me and

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I had to study with you.

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 4>To do.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes these guy's lying, they're good, but a lot of

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 1>the times they're official.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>You don't have time to go look at and nowadays

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and google them.

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>When I go to a.

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Town now they'll be like, yo, go get with such

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 2>and such, and I gotta look at this guy's Instagram.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 2>But it was real and and your generations before mines.

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>So how was that like? Just traveling the US back then?

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 6>You had to know people, man, you had to really know.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 6>Like what you just said right there brought me back

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 6>to like, Okay, tell your story, Ice Tea, Okay, this

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 6>is way.

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Back big of Ice Tea coming on the show.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 6>A shout out to Icy and Coco. This goes back

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 6>to Darlen. Okay, this is first wife on the cover

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 6>of Okay, Ice Tea, this is the realest dude ever.

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what y'all know about TV and well

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what that ship is. Okay, But in

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 6>the eighties Ron Syndicate in l a OA, you had

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 6>to know these dudes or you wasn't playing.

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>You said you couldn't even go to you couldn't even play.

0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't even play date.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 6>Today you can book shows, you know, live national book.

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't ran in the hood. This ship is all good.

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 6>No, back then, it was only dudes that were hustling

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 6>that was booking rappers. So it was like you know,

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 6>and and and it wasn't never no shit, it was not.

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 6>It was actually the time. We always having a good time.

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 6>It's like we've left.

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 3>All the guns, all the product that shit, leave that

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 3>ship down.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 6>Let's just go to Latin Quarters and have a good

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 6>fucking time. Car Let's just go down to you know,

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 6>the rooftop or or whatever feeve or whatever. Everybody just

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 6>was like that. Everybody left their shit in the car.

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 6>If there was any beef in the cub. You'd see

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 6>dudes running outside today ride and that the ship would

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 6>pop off in the parking lot. But we had to

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 6>know people. You couldn't just be a rap. There were

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 6>so many rappers that were dope on the mic and

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 6>even had hit records, but they couldn't tour, They couldn't travel,

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, because back then people were still getting robbed

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 6>for they change just the.

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Idea of wearing the gold chain.

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 6>Well you know what I'm saying, you know, but look

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 6>I tell you this on YouTube though now.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.320
<v Speaker 4>And it's for YouTube.

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 1>It's for YouTube now.

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 6>You know MC search, you know far right, the third base.

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 6>These were the only white dudes ever ever to walk

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 6>in Latin Quarters with big gold on.

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Latin Quarters, the original Latin Quarters, because I went to

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 2>stream Broadway on ninety six in Broadway, the original quarters.

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 6>Was on forty eight Street and Broadway, across the street

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 6>from Popeye's Chicken. We used to eat that bullshit and

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 6>go across the street and tear that ship down. Nothing

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 6>but hustlers in there. And if your rhymes was whack,

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 6>you did not make it out like you without insults

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 6>or sneaking scheming on you, or like you had to

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 6>have security walk you out like you. You know what

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying. And I took pride in that ship. I

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 6>was like, fuck niggas, man, I'm getting this shit in

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.919
<v Speaker 6>right now. And they just loved, they loved my whole shit.

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 6>And the point was was that we were spitting conscious shit.

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 6>We called the reality rap yo, man, Fuck these cops,

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 6>this court, this shit we were going through. Fuck the DA.

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 6>These motherfuckers are corrupt. Let's talk about the government. That

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 6>shit became conscious rap. All of a sudden in the nineties,

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.760
<v Speaker 6>the title switched right and now, all of a sudden,

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 6>we were supposed to play this role of being conscious

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 6>rappers who didn't fight or argue and this shit, and

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 6>it was like, I never rested. I'm wrestled. I never

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 6>settled this in my own career, you know me. I

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 6>consider myself a god man straight up. I'm all about peace.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:51.359
<v Speaker 6>But this world the minute you say you standing up

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 6>for justice and wisdom, these dudes want to try to

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 6>see you. And I love shit like that. I'm like,

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm God's like worst. I'm said here to make you

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 6>think like, yo, that's that. You know we can get

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 6>that dude right there, I'm like.

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 3>You and ship changes in the dark.

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 6>Come on, follow me down here, Yeah, and then see

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 6>the skirt of wearing the skirt, come on, tell you, come.

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>On, that's where I want to go.

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 2>How did the b start with Shan a Regular? Was

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 2>it the record or was it something on the side.

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I have to notice for my own because you're my

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>favorite rapper.

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know that we wanted to

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 3>be down with hated you when you did the Bridges.

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I's got to be clear with you let me tell

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you something.

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:46.280
<v Speaker 4>You mean, any any killers and Queens.

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 2>You made them, because I'm gonna tell you because you

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 2>said we didn't. That's horrible, horrible, it's a great, it's

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>a great, horrible thing, because you know why we had

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 2>on records. Island at that time was the toughest place.

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was the hard chorus place to go.

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you was from Queens, you would just.

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Walk by and people would be like Queens, right. And

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know if you started this,

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.319
<v Speaker 2>but you said I didn't hear a peak from a

0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 2>place called Queens, And we had to fight every each

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>neow y'all nigga, every bra snaker. For niggas to be

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 2>like Queens niggas is a fish like he just took

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 2>out Shan. He didn't, damn, I wrote it that wrong,

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and she shanned, don't don't, don't blow me up, listen.

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just being.

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Honest, no doubt.

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And at that time.

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>You changed the face of hip hop because you single handedly.

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:48.800
<v Speaker 2>So I don't need to know how did this start?

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Was it beef with Marley? Was it beef with Shan?

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Was this this rock pum a sneaker?

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 1>What was it, Chris, to make you go off like that?

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 2>First off, we and queens didn't know it was a

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>South bron We didn't know it was a North bron

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>We just though it was the Bronx. So when all right,

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 2>so I need to know this, this is from my

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 2>own history.

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>How did they start?

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Rest in Peace to mister Magic? Let me start right.

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 6>Smoke right now, come on, man, come on, Rest in

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 6>Peace to mister Magic. Okay, straight up. Now that's who

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 6>started it.

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>He started its magic, mister match.

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 6>Rest in Peace. We wanted to be down with the

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 6>Juice Crew. Let's start right there.

0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 2>So and this is Molly Ma, this is Magic, Okay,

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Magic and Molly.

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 6>Magic was the first of all. There was another Juice

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 6>Crew before matching. Let's name the original, the original Juice Crew.

0:53:58.000 --> 0:53:58.399
<v Speaker 3>I was first.

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 6>I don't know all of them. I think email Caz, Yeah,

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 6>this is Juice Crew. Juice Crew out a disco fever.

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:12.720
<v Speaker 6>They the original Juice Crew. Magic was part of that crew, okay,

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:16.240
<v Speaker 6>So he kind of took the name. And the second

0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 6>generation came up, which was us, and so he named

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 6>his crew the Juice Crew.

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 3>But he is the only one with the ring.

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 6>It was rings it was like thirteen rings that were

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 6>given out for this Juice Crew, so hering one of his.

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 3>He was one of these dudes with the ring.

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 6>So he named the things Juice Crup with his man

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 6>fly tie as well. Tyers was big, you know, with

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:42.240
<v Speaker 6>promotion and marketing, so the idea was battles were huge

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 6>on the street anyway. If he was an MC, he

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 6>was always battling your man. He was always in a

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.879
<v Speaker 6>cipher spitting shit. So that's what it was. But none

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 6>of that was ever reflected in mainstream media and rap

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 6>whatever run DMC. They was crushing shit, but they were

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 6>still you know, wrapping. They were still like performers, you know.

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 6>They It never was really what it was on the

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:08.880
<v Speaker 6>street level. So we went to Magic. We wanted to

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 6>be part of the Juice Cree. We wanted to be

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 6>produced by Mally mal Okay. But Magic was the Juice Crew.

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 6>He's the one that put everybody down. So Rox Sane

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:22.120
<v Speaker 6>Chante just came off of a battle with UTFO Nice Battle.

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 3>All these rock Sands came out of that battle.

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Big little Sister Fast team. While I went to school,

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Wow continued.

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 6>Rock Sanshani came out UTFO Nice Battle so mc shan

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 6>came out and dissed LL called him a beat vida

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 6>because the word on the street was the LL bit,

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:47.360
<v Speaker 6>his stop, the kango Dadidas, the step pumas and the

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 6>track suit, and in a way it looked just like

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 6>L from the early days. If you look at early LL,

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.839
<v Speaker 6>it was some kind of similarity. So LLL was mad

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 6>about that, I guess, and started going out. I'm not Ell,

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:02.279
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry. Shan was mad at that and started going

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 6>after LLLLLL never answered.

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Him, but I did.

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 6>Because Magic took our demo. So the story goes, an

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 6>engineer told us this we handed in. Our record was

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 6>two records criminal Minded in elementary, oh and a record

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 6>called Advance three records. We have got to advance three records.

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:27.200
<v Speaker 6>We gave it to him, they said, Magic said this

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.479
<v Speaker 6>is corny. No, we're not doing it, and supposedly flung

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 6>it in the in the garbage. This is an engineer

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.320
<v Speaker 6>telling us. First of all, we couldn't even talk to Magic. Okay,

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 6>he was not huge, Okay, security he was the man. Okay,

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 6>we couldn't even see. We handed out. We handed dude

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 6>the CD, threw somebody through somebody through somebody and the

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 6>word got back, Yo, wack.

0:56:57.120 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Get a body here.

0:56:58.480 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 8>Wow.

0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 6>So mind you. I'm a homeless in the street. I'm

0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.720
<v Speaker 6>riding the train back and forth to D train. Scott

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 6>land Rock is a social worker at the shelter. I

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 6>get to you know, sometimes I'm at the shelter. Sometimes

0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 6>I'm not me and Justice was in the shelter together.

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 6>So some nice we hang out all night. Some nights

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 6>we get up a Scott. I had to go to

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 6>work every day and worked there at that shelter. So

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 6>we got back and Scott was like, yo, they said

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 6>it was wat my g I was like, yo, why

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 6>Shan is whack? How much my shit ain't whack? Wa.

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 6>So I'm twenty, you know what I'm saying, twenty one twenty,

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 6>I'm cocky, I'm arrogant. I'm already known in the Bronx.

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm a graffiti writer really named kr Rest and I'm

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 6>writing on the six train and the five to two

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 6>and the five we hitting the bus yards Ford and

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 6>Rod bus yards. So I'm already on my shit in

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 6>the graffiti world. And I was graffiti.

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing it out there.

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 6>I was on my ship bombing buses and trains, and

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 6>we were trying to get into the rap deal, hopefully

0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:12.479
<v Speaker 6>to get some money and get out the hood. They said,

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 6>you whack, So I wrote I was. I wrote the

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 6>Bridges Over first, before the south Brook, before the south Bronx.

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 6>I wrote the Bridges Over because that was more my ship.

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 6>I was on some reggae ship. So I was like, yo,

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 6>I used to listen to shine Head. Actually was my inspiration,

0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 6>shine Hand. I used to listen to shine Hand. Michigan

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 6>is Smiley yellow Man, Lieutenant Stitchy.

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Major Macronesia Man. I just go on.

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 4>I used to blast all that.

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 6>So he was like, see what are you doing this? Okay,

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 6>So so it's like so I'm listening to all that.

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 6>But Scott was like, First of all, Scott started to

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 6>get down in his spirit because he had already shopped

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 6>our music to everybody, and they all turned us down.

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 6>They said it was too educated, too preachy. You don't

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 6>sound like the rappers out here because we were talking

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 6>about nuclear.

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Wall, the government this kind of thing. Was like, nah, rap, don't.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Need I know about Illuminati because you I'm just so

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 2>we were eighty four.

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm just telling you that anyway. So we was like,

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, nobody was gonna sign this. No one wanted us.

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 6>So I was like, you know what, fuck it? I

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 6>wrote the Bridges over. I said it to Scott. Scott

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:34.440
<v Speaker 6>was like, nah, man, because nobody's gonna gonna play that

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 6>reggae ship. Nobody want to hear that ship. They want

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 6>to hear like run DMC and this.

0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:41.160
<v Speaker 2>So you're telling me the Bridges over was wrote before

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Shan actually dropped the bridge or no bridge out.

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 6>No, the bridge was out, and I wrote the bridges over.

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, So now let me just tell you this

0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>is where you also crushed my dreams as a child.

0:59:56.720 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 7>Fair as I read this, hip hop thought it out

1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 7>the job, I thought, even to the.

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Two, I'm a child, all right, I born in nineteen

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:12.080
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven, right, what what year did Shan.

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<v Speaker 1>Drop that record?

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<v Speaker 3>That was like eighty six eighty six?

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<v Speaker 1>So technically how old are if?

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<v Speaker 6>Nine?

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<v Speaker 4>Like ten? Nine years old?

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<v Speaker 1>Nine?

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<v Speaker 4>So I believe she as a nine year old?

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<v Speaker 3>Well I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been in Lebron.

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<v Speaker 3>But wait a minute, here's the real of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we both were wrong. Okay, wait, wait me and

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<v Speaker 2>you or meet you and Shane, me and Shan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>tell them.

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<v Speaker 6>He said, you love to hear the story again and

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<v Speaker 6>again how it all got started way back when the

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<v Speaker 6>monument is right in your face.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit and listen for a while. For the name of

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<v Speaker 3>the place, the bridge. Okay, that caused the battle, that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you knew hip hop originated.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to one twenty three park watching BAM right,

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<v Speaker 2>so now we as as as as we go. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was that line that made you, well, no, it's magic,

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<v Speaker 2>said we was garbage that made us fery. Combined with

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<v Speaker 2>that line, well, that line was the excuse. But magic

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't from Queen's Bridge.

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<v Speaker 6>No magic is from magic. He's from Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>I think from Brooklyn. From Brooklyn. No, but but you

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<v Speaker 1>hear this record and it bothers you.

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<v Speaker 6>Why Well, first of all, magic justic us and and

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<v Speaker 6>basically was hopping on the fact that his number one

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<v Speaker 6>MC was this dude right here, mc shan.

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<v Speaker 3>So being from the Bronx, hungry, broke poor.

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<v Speaker 6>With nothing, we said, you know what, that's food right there,

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go get him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy and so food.

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<v Speaker 6>We said, yo, we wrote up. I wrote the bridges

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<v Speaker 6>over first. Got didn't like it, said, no, nobody's listening. No,

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<v Speaker 6>reggae ship. If you really want to go at dude,

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<v Speaker 6>come with some ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So the original Bridge is Over was a reggae Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it was super Cat books boom boom boom boom

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<v Speaker 3>boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.

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<v Speaker 6>Big up the super Cat for that right, supercant a

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<v Speaker 6>little left right for a little while. No O, that

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<v Speaker 6>was I was all in the super Cat right there.

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<v Speaker 6>And he had a record called said Bop Staying said

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<v Speaker 6>go on and get him up, hey, say bo standing

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<v Speaker 6>the boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

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<v Speaker 6>boom boom boom. I was like, yes, put that to

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<v Speaker 6>some boom back the same ship we used to do

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<v Speaker 6>in the in the in the shelter, we used to

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<v Speaker 6>hit the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then what happened?

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<v Speaker 6>You went back and he put on this record, goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>bro I got that good cheap a cheever boom boom

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<v Speaker 6>boom boom, Hey bro I got that good cheeper Chief.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to keep cutting that far out, So Scott's

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<v Speaker 6>cutting that ship. I was like, way back in the

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<v Speaker 6>days when hip hop began with coke LaRock wol Hurrican

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<v Speaker 6>damn bam people. The Scott was like, oh yo, you

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<v Speaker 6>need to come with that next like three days later

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<v Speaker 6>he got his check.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to the studio.

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<v Speaker 6>It was fifty dollars, twenty five dollars an hour and

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<v Speaker 6>you get an acetate at the answer was a bargain,

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<v Speaker 6>like the acetate was twenty five dollars, but they said

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five dollars and the acetate two hour minimum. We

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<v Speaker 6>spent fifty dollars. We made a four track. We did

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<v Speaker 6>South Bronx and the PS three the same day, two hours,

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<v Speaker 6>one day, Bridges No no, No, South Bronx and the PS

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<v Speaker 6>free the original with d Knights on the beach.

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<v Speaker 3>And we got a dumb played out of it.

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<v Speaker 6>So we took that down to Latin Quarters and Raoul

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<v Speaker 6>was playing Red Alert wasn't even on yet.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a dude named Raoul.

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<v Speaker 1>There was bigger Raoul. That is side bar owner.

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<v Speaker 3>Right rose Ma Hoomie.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out the sidebar, shout out the sidebar.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the older people?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this mingo?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I stopped, no, no, no no, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>figured Raoul, so continue this story.

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<v Speaker 3>We gave him. We gave nasty take We gave him

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<v Speaker 3>the dumb player. He put the ship on. From the

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<v Speaker 3>second that ship came on Bridges No, the South, Bronx

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<v Speaker 3>the South.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Queens Break.

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<v Speaker 6>After Queens Queensbridge is a huge hit record. I should

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<v Speaker 6>play on the radio every day, thro the ship on

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<v Speaker 6>the club, dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is we were very proud. How long do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>How long do we have? How long queens were we?

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<v Speaker 3>It was about a month. It was about a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Only had a month taken We had six months? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that was right, give us two months even.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like to two months. It was on the radio.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like one month.

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<v Speaker 6>The ship was he was in the club already and

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<v Speaker 6>then came back.

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<v Speaker 3>No, then Shan came back.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, let's not skip.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we only had a month where it was

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<v Speaker 2>okay to be from Queensbridge, left Frack forty projects and then.

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<v Speaker 6>No, wait a minute, rephrase the question. No, you guys

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<v Speaker 6>had like three left. You had like three four years.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, because when see when when run DMC came

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<v Speaker 6>out and ll and then Shante.

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<v Speaker 1>You was cool with them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm cool with all of that.

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<v Speaker 6>So why did you and sh Wait a minute, no, lyrically,

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't I got it lyrically, I wasn't see.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the time.

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<v Speaker 6>This was a time where you had to prove Run

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<v Speaker 6>DMC said an amazing lyric. I think it was DMC,

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<v Speaker 6>he said. Other rappers can't stand us, but give us respect.

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<v Speaker 6>That sums up the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighties with Do you feel like Run DMC was like

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<v Speaker 1>a pop group to you? Bet?

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, it was nothing pop about Run DMC.

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<v Speaker 6>No them know fuckers was straight hood? Okay, Jam asked,

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<v Speaker 6>did Jay okay? Okay? Okay? J was hood hood? Okay okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Now Run and d they were straight hood as well.

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<v Speaker 6>They came from different other parts of Queens, right, but

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<v Speaker 6>queens the whole of Queen's hood.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was like Run DMC was just kings like

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<v Speaker 6>they was just it and and you always took a

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<v Speaker 6>shot at those who was on the top if you

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<v Speaker 6>was the little guy on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like even rock sand Chante had a line

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<v Speaker 6>where I met Run and I met d MC, and

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<v Speaker 6>I said so and it was like one of hadopas,

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<v Speaker 6>like one of her lines and she had put it.

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<v Speaker 6>But that was the attitude like you ain't lodge. You

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<v Speaker 6>ain't you know even though you are and you the man.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you this question.

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<v Speaker 2>When he's said hip hop started out in the dark,

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<v Speaker 2>was was that something that.

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<v Speaker 1>Directly bothered you because you knew the truth?

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<v Speaker 6>Scholarly? Yes, but I didn't know the truth. I thought

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<v Speaker 6>I knew the truth. See this is young arrogance. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>hanging out in the Bronx, North Bronx, South Bronx, East

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<v Speaker 6>West Bronx. I'm the whole Bronx Gunhill Road to Milburgh Projects.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, whole Bronx.

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<v Speaker 6>First, I'm a graph writer, so I walked the entire Bronx.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Okay, I'm the whole Bronx. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm running in the parties. Dudes, you know we know ship.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't hear.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear Queen, No we did. We used to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Queens. Queens had the dopest party.

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<v Speaker 7>But so you did hear people, no doubt. Let's Queen's

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<v Speaker 7>no what it was no childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say this say this.

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<v Speaker 6>My wife is from Queen's Okay, Queen, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the queen right.

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<v Speaker 1>Your wife Jasmine in the building queens, Queens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna big you up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, big up your wife.

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<v Speaker 4>He's looking for queen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for my queens. Saint Albans, Sane Orbans.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm talking about. Man, Niggas don't respect

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<v Speaker 2>this part. The nigga that married a woman. Let's leave

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<v Speaker 2>this because listen, on the island, people used to be

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<v Speaker 2>like queens, like you started something. So niggas from queens

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<v Speaker 2>at that time on the island spit out raises and

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<v Speaker 2>buck fifties. You might have originated buck fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you knew that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you knew that. But because queens, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I do, Master, you don't care, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like my father, like I mean, and you blame your

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<v Speaker 3>father for everything, don't we all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't we all?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't we all?

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<v Speaker 8>So?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you heard hip hop started out an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew that.

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<v Speaker 6>You knew that it didn't No, I knew Cool Heirk existed,

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<v Speaker 6>I knew Bam, I knew Flash she existed. I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>know them, but their names were in the hood crazy,

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<v Speaker 6>so you knew was froning. Yeah, basically, well I.

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<v Speaker 3>Knew he didn't know. I don't even know if he

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<v Speaker 3>was frighting.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just that one of queens we go because we

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<v Speaker 6>seen that and he wrote about what he saw from

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<v Speaker 6>his perspective, and so I put out the record South

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<v Speaker 6>Bronx and today it's to be scholarly correct. Hip hop

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<v Speaker 6>started in the West Bronx. It never started in the South.

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<v Speaker 6>See that was my next question. This it's the Westbrooks

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<v Speaker 6>cool Heart fifteen twenty Sadgwick Avenue, the Bronx. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 6>West Bronx. But we were so ghetto ignorant and gas

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<v Speaker 6>to get on a record we South Bronx, South South

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<v Speaker 6>Bronx because that was one of my other history books.

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<v Speaker 2>Was with people from the other part of the Bronx

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<v Speaker 2>where they still chair oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody North Bronx, East West was all from the South.

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<v Speaker 2>Because even now, like when Biggie you hear you hear yeah, Biggie,

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<v Speaker 2>or you hear nahs.

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<v Speaker 1>So nobody shout out the Bronx. They never say the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 1>they say the South Bronx.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always wondered with people from the other side, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they offended by that. It's like Biggie shout it out

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<v Speaker 2>on one record when God bless it that.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, when Big was alive, he was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, I shout it out queens Bridge, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Left Frack, Like I don't really get that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're not shout out the whole Queens when you

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<v Speaker 2>shout out queens Bridge. Queensbridge is a ninety six building

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<v Speaker 2>that you come over Manhattan and that's just that section.

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<v Speaker 1>But people that's right next door to it, ravers would

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<v Speaker 1>the story of they don't recognize queens Bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>We understand what you mean by shouting out Queensbridge and

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<v Speaker 2>thinking it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole Queens, but it's really not.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always wanted it was that the opposite when

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<v Speaker 2>you said South Bronx.

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<v Speaker 1>Was people in the West brook.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bronx took it differently because the Bronx wasn't on

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<v Speaker 3>the map. Brooklyn was on the map.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn is still on the map, and well there it

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<v Speaker 1>is Brooklyn. Rules You could be du Journey and you

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<v Speaker 1>say you're Brooklyn in the house.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like the fuck Brooklyn washere?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there was nobody was There was a record called

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<v Speaker 3>Gold Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's sonics still might mister, somebody go Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 6>Gold Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 3>That was it. That that was the club anthem. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what we did. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 6>So when I came to South Bronx, that's where I

1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:40.280
<v Speaker 6>want to go. That's where the Bronx was on the map.

1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:44.360
<v Speaker 6>And then I mentioned dudes that were heavy in the Bronx,

1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:49.280
<v Speaker 6>you know, Nine Lives Crew, Cyprus Boys, real rock.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're telling me is after you drop the

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<v Speaker 2>South Bronx, shan drop kill that noise, that's what made

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<v Speaker 2>you drop Bridges over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh this is terrible. Bridges never was horrible. First

1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:04.200
<v Speaker 3>of all, I would have been over it was horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>This is terrible.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, you know what you know, let me tell you.

1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:10.519
<v Speaker 6>When kill that Noise came out, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a hit.

1:12:11.600 --> 1:12:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Was it was a hit.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, that beat think of the Casey Sunshine

1:12:16.280 --> 1:12:21.400
<v Speaker 3>band beat. That was easy. Biggy even used it again,

1:12:21.680 --> 1:12:22.920
<v Speaker 3>no way, he used it.

1:12:23.040 --> 1:12:26.000
<v Speaker 6>That the don't don't jun't the jun't junk junk and

1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:29.559
<v Speaker 6>don't don't jun't don't jun't yun't don't don't.

1:12:29.920 --> 1:12:32.519
<v Speaker 3>That that that that was the Casey in the Sunshine

1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:34.160
<v Speaker 3>when he dow that on.

1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:36.880
<v Speaker 4>It was hot. It was like, oh he came back.

1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:40.840
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't it wasn't whacked until the bridge is over

1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:41.679
<v Speaker 6>came out.

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<v Speaker 1>My feelings. But I need to know how this happens.

1:12:47.800 --> 1:12:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I need to know, like, because you're my favorite artist

1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:52.880
<v Speaker 1>at the time.

1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm a child.

1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And you broke my dreams.

1:13:02.960 --> 1:13:04.440
<v Speaker 3>With murder people.

1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:08.120
<v Speaker 1>All around the boy my whole life.

1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:10.160
<v Speaker 4>It's good's.

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<v Speaker 1>He's my god. So how did this session did? How

1:13:19.040 --> 1:13:19.640
<v Speaker 1>did how did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you said you originally recorded original version it was

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<v Speaker 2>a reggae version.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I never recorded it. Oh, I just

1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:30.360
<v Speaker 3>said it in Scott's living room.

1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>As Scott said no, he said no, wow, So you

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<v Speaker 1>did the South Bronx. So I did the South Bronx

1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and Killis came out and did Now you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, Scott got on the reggae when he heard the

1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:44.000
<v Speaker 6>ps free when I did South Bronx and then the

1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:45.679
<v Speaker 6>ps free on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>When we used to do that in the club. That

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<v Speaker 6>was the rock that that was the wreck is. So

1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Scott was like, what's up this reggae?

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<v Speaker 3>Should like what?

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<v Speaker 6>He started getting me now he was on it. But

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<v Speaker 6>then Shan answered us would kill that noise. If you

1:14:05.280 --> 1:14:08.040
<v Speaker 6>knew what I knew, you'd kill that noise. And the

1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:12.519
<v Speaker 6>record was hot for its time, and so we was like,

1:14:12.640 --> 1:14:14.720
<v Speaker 6>you know what, we got this joint right here. And

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<v Speaker 6>Scott didn't even recorded, no, it was all my record.

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<v Speaker 6>Scott never recorded the bridges over, he never even well,

1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:25.040
<v Speaker 6>he came for the mix of the second one. But

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<v Speaker 6>when when when Shan put out his record, I went

1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:33.920
<v Speaker 6>back to said G from Ultra Magnetic, who was doing

1:14:33.960 --> 1:14:38.519
<v Speaker 6>our beats, and he said, actually was sampling. He was

1:14:38.560 --> 1:14:42.040
<v Speaker 6>he had to sp twelve. So I asked him, Yo,

1:14:42.160 --> 1:14:44.360
<v Speaker 6>give me some drums. I'm gonna go in the studio

1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:47.439
<v Speaker 6>up the block from Latin Quarters. I found some little

1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:51.160
<v Speaker 6>rinkyding studio like two blocks up, and I said, yo,

1:14:51.280 --> 1:14:54.400
<v Speaker 6>Shan came out with this joint. I'm coming back. Went

1:14:54.479 --> 1:14:57.360
<v Speaker 6>in there and I produced the whole record. I took

1:14:57.479 --> 1:14:58.599
<v Speaker 6>said G's drums.

1:14:59.000 --> 1:15:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Boom boom back bat, boom bat, boom boom bat.

1:15:03.000 --> 1:15:06.040
<v Speaker 6>That's the same beat we did on the bathroom wall

1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:10.280
<v Speaker 6>and the shelter boom boom back back boom bat, and dudes,

1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:12.599
<v Speaker 6>just get it in. That was just the standard beat.

1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:15.280
<v Speaker 6>So we did that, put the super cat to it.

1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:17.960
<v Speaker 6>Boom boom boom ba boom boom. I played the piano

1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:21.160
<v Speaker 6>one take one time you listen to the instrumental.

1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:23.760
<v Speaker 4>That's the sloppiest playing ever.

1:15:23.920 --> 1:15:27.720
<v Speaker 6>As error's mistakes, all types of shit, but no one

1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:31.040
<v Speaker 6>heard all that put my lyric down. The Bridge is over.

1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:34.880
<v Speaker 6>I did that shit strictly for Brooklyn, straight up Bronx,

1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:38.640
<v Speaker 6>South Bronx. That was straight up Gunhill Road, straight up

1:15:38.800 --> 1:15:43.320
<v Speaker 6>west Chester, Jerome Brand concourse, that would that this one.

1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.200
<v Speaker 6>We said, Yo, this is what Brooklyn is on right now,

1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:47.479
<v Speaker 6>and nobody knows it.

1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Nobody.

1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:51.360
<v Speaker 6>Nobody goes to the jams like well, actually what it's

1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:54.720
<v Speaker 6>called the donzie the dance all they don't go to that.

1:15:55.040 --> 1:15:55.479
<v Speaker 3>We be it.

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<v Speaker 6>We was up in it with Stone Love and GT

1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:01.880
<v Speaker 6>International and all of that. So when he was talking

1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:04.920
<v Speaker 6>about battle, he was like, Yo, were gonna battle the

1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:07.839
<v Speaker 6>way they do in Jamaica. We're gonna spin the record

1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:13.120
<v Speaker 6>back up, gunshot. We're gonna and America's never hurt it.

1:16:13.320 --> 1:16:16.559
<v Speaker 6>They was like, what the fuck the bridge is over?

1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:16.720
<v Speaker 4>What?

1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:19.880
<v Speaker 3>They didn't know what the fun was. It was like, Yo,

1:16:20.160 --> 1:16:20.439
<v Speaker 3>it was.

1:16:22.600 --> 1:16:23.920
<v Speaker 4>That's what it was called sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even from the bridge I'm just from Queens,

1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:27.759
<v Speaker 2>but it still hurts Karen.

1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take a moment of silence.

1:16:30.080 --> 1:16:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Take that moment. Let's drink.

1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:32.479
<v Speaker 6>Drink.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't share.

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<v Speaker 1>Fund it out. So why did why did.

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<v Speaker 2>You even respond to Shan Shannon? Listen, let me just say,

1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Shannon is still a godfather, no doubt off Queen's Bridge

1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:52.200
<v Speaker 2>of Queens.

1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:56.679
<v Speaker 1>He's still a forefather. But this time, why did you respond?

1:16:56.840 --> 1:17:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Like Shan is the reason, Hey, a restaurant has a career.

1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Damn this okay, this is let's make some noise for

1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that man.

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, the greatest battle on the record, no

1:17:12.120 --> 1:17:15.040
<v Speaker 2>doubt on record. To me, it was the greatest battle

1:17:15.080 --> 1:17:18.599
<v Speaker 2>because it affected like it changed people lives. Like right now,

1:17:18.680 --> 1:17:20.920
<v Speaker 2>when I see people battle, it don't change people lives.

1:17:20.960 --> 1:17:22.280
<v Speaker 1>We just laugh at them.

1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:26.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know, but this, like Queen's had to prove ourselves,

1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:29.080
<v Speaker 2>like we had to like you know what I mean,

1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like South Bronx was was was the position where.

1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Y'all had to dig out the rubble. I got outside,

1:17:38.360 --> 1:17:38.839
<v Speaker 4>I could.

1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:40.360
<v Speaker 1>What he said.

1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:43.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like Brooklyn has always been recognized. I can remember

1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:46.919
<v Speaker 2>back in ninety seven, I used to go to Atlanta

1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and be like, yo is Atlanta in the house, and

1:17:50.040 --> 1:17:54.240
<v Speaker 2>nobody from Atlanta would never, you know, say anything.

1:17:54.320 --> 1:17:56.720
<v Speaker 1>And when I said New York in the house, people

1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:59.040
<v Speaker 1>go crazy. And I would say Brooklyn. We were always

1:17:59.120 --> 1:18:00.160
<v Speaker 1>my first choice.

1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:03.519
<v Speaker 4>Brooklyn, and people will go issue.

1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:06.360
<v Speaker 1>We see him, I see him backstage and be like,

1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you're from Brooklyn.

1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Where're at that?

1:18:08.920 --> 1:18:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Like Queens Boulevard. God damn it. This motherfucker is a

1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:17.840
<v Speaker 1>lion motherfucker. But you changed the game from that, And.

1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:22.160
<v Speaker 3>So Shan.

1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>Responded to you recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wow, he started and started that, he started.

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:31.799
<v Speaker 1>He just he did an interview.

1:18:33.680 --> 1:18:34.439
<v Speaker 3>It's a record.

1:18:34.960 --> 1:18:35.759
<v Speaker 4>No, no, he didn't.

1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Well wait he didn't do a record, No he did,

1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:40.840
<v Speaker 3>he did. He did.

1:18:40.960 --> 1:18:43.599
<v Speaker 4>Uh wait wait, let me go back. Just for the record.

1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:48.879
<v Speaker 4>I was battling some other dude in Pittsburgh recently.

1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe three months strike come out to the supermar

1:18:59.880 --> 1:19:01.160
<v Speaker 3>like young Gris. I would have got it.

1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:04.320
<v Speaker 6>I have an eggs and bread in my hand and ship.

1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:14.160
<v Speaker 6>But I give the young kids a run for their money. Somebody,

1:19:15.439 --> 1:19:19.599
<v Speaker 6>the young shooters gotta know somebody. The young kids don't

1:19:19.640 --> 1:19:22.479
<v Speaker 6>know my history, so don't tell them. Don't tell them.

1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:26.080
<v Speaker 6>Let me give me spank that. But but they but

1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:28.280
<v Speaker 6>but but the point is is that I was battling

1:19:28.360 --> 1:19:30.160
<v Speaker 6>some others. Some dude jumped on stage. He was this,

1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:35.200
<v Speaker 6>and he was dressed like L, holding L's album album,

1:19:35.520 --> 1:19:38.600
<v Speaker 6>and I was freestyling. I said some wax ship about L.

1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:40.880
<v Speaker 6>I apologize for that because.

1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:42.559
<v Speaker 3>L is up here.

1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:45.599
<v Speaker 6>You know, he's even before me. You know what I'm saying.

1:19:45.640 --> 1:19:49.200
<v Speaker 6>There's no disrespect there. But I was battling and the

1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:52.479
<v Speaker 6>battle is for. He was like, he held up L's album.

1:19:52.520 --> 1:19:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you telling me some kids just

1:19:54.680 --> 1:20:00.679
<v Speaker 2>jumped one. Yeah, well he jumped on, gave a shot.

1:20:00.800 --> 1:20:01.760
<v Speaker 7>Why what you got?

1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:05.960
<v Speaker 3>He's smittish ship. It was corny, And so I started going,

1:20:06.160 --> 1:20:08.080
<v Speaker 3>where where was this at Pittsburgh?

1:20:08.200 --> 1:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you did say that this is Pittsburgh.

1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:14.439
<v Speaker 6>So in that he put up Shan's album and I said,

1:20:14.479 --> 1:20:16.200
<v Speaker 6>we took Shan out already?

1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:22.320
<v Speaker 3>What them up for? Shann heard that and said fuck him, man, Yeah,

1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:25.400
<v Speaker 3>he ain't never took me out. This, that, and the other.

1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you agree with his theory?

1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:31.240
<v Speaker 2>His theory is that y'all should have been in front

1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 2>of each other like how the Battle Rappers do.

1:20:33.800 --> 1:20:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Now do you agree with that theory.

1:20:35.920 --> 1:20:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he just never showed up. Dude.

1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:40.920
<v Speaker 4>It's thirty years.

1:20:41.080 --> 1:20:44.680
<v Speaker 6>It's thirty years, dude, not the festival all up and down.

1:20:44.840 --> 1:20:50.799
<v Speaker 6>Queens should make happen. Talk right only in Queen's Bridge,

1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:55.760
<v Speaker 6>There's no excuse outdoor festivals.

1:20:55.800 --> 1:20:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Come on summer Champ.

1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:01.479
<v Speaker 1>It's thirty years and now he wants to do it face.

1:21:02.160 --> 1:21:03.640
<v Speaker 6>That would be the end of his ship. If you

1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:08.000
<v Speaker 6>ever want to see them all, that ship will be destructive.

1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:11.080
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what he's asking for, but you know,

1:21:11.280 --> 1:21:12.040
<v Speaker 6>I eat.

1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Off this ship. Man, this is my ship right here.

1:21:15.160 --> 1:21:16.479
<v Speaker 7>You know he'll have it in you.

1:21:21.439 --> 1:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shoot somebody.

1:21:23.479 --> 1:21:24.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna.

1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>So you really written the studio arm recorded a new rend.

1:21:30.040 --> 1:21:32.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, he came out with something he did.

1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:35.640
<v Speaker 6>He did an interview and he said some rhymes on

1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:39.200
<v Speaker 6>the interview that he's coming at me. So I'm from

1:21:39.280 --> 1:21:41.240
<v Speaker 6>you don't just say that's like pulling your gun and

1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:44.240
<v Speaker 6>that ship like what you're gonna pull your ship out?

1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:45.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm blasting you. That's it.

1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:49.040
<v Speaker 6>That's I'm not what that's the end of. So he

1:21:49.080 --> 1:21:51.280
<v Speaker 6>said his little piece put a piece out.

1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:54.639
<v Speaker 1>So what did he exactly say? He like freestyle a cappella.

1:21:55.080 --> 1:21:57.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it sounds like it was written though it

1:21:57.240 --> 1:21:59.439
<v Speaker 6>had no heart to it, like a real freestyle. He

1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:02.559
<v Speaker 6>was reading some ship and he read some ship off

1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:06.320
<v Speaker 6>and that you and I just fuck. Yeah, I'm going

1:22:06.360 --> 1:22:08.719
<v Speaker 6>to Atlanta. I'm going to Atlanta.

1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:10.160
<v Speaker 3>That's what, dude? Is that? Oh?

1:22:10.200 --> 1:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>That's what?

1:22:10.960 --> 1:22:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1:22:11.240 --> 1:22:13.519
<v Speaker 6>Sham work is sham work at a place called Club

1:22:13.640 --> 1:22:18.479
<v Speaker 6>Babes in Atlanta. Okay, I'm going there. Okay, that's why

1:22:18.560 --> 1:22:19.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what I just started.

1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what. No, no, no, you want to

1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:26.600
<v Speaker 3>see it. Let's get it popping so.

1:22:27.040 --> 1:22:29.760
<v Speaker 5>You will be willing drink champs. I think it's an

1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:31.439
<v Speaker 5>opportunity for us, right, No, no, no.

1:22:31.439 --> 1:22:31.640
<v Speaker 8>No no.

1:22:32.000 --> 1:22:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to do with this battle. I

1:22:34.280 --> 1:22:35.400
<v Speaker 1>just want to see it online.

1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Queens lorda queens man, listen, I don't really want to

1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:41.439
<v Speaker 2>see this battle happen.

1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Can you? Is there anywhere we can chill you out?

1:22:45.600 --> 1:22:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Or no?

1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:48.160
<v Speaker 6>Not? You know what?

1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>What What did he say that ignited you to want

1:22:50.880 --> 1:22:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to go?

1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:54.280
<v Speaker 6>It's not what is being said, it's so it's the

1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:59.880
<v Speaker 6>audacity to even think that, after thirty years, you you

1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:04.000
<v Speaker 6>got something for me. You are crazy. You obviously want

1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:07.080
<v Speaker 6>more hits on your ship or whatever it is. Let

1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:08.640
<v Speaker 6>me give them to you, Let me give it to you,

1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:11.080
<v Speaker 6>let me bleak you up. Because again, let me also

1:23:11.200 --> 1:23:14.519
<v Speaker 6>say this, if Shan never answered me, I would not

1:23:14.680 --> 1:23:18.560
<v Speaker 6>have a career, okay saying from the South from the

1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:21.720
<v Speaker 6>South Bronx. Okay, that record could have been a one hit.

1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:24.040
<v Speaker 6>Like if South Bronx came out, we would have had

1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:30.000
<v Speaker 6>one hit. Okay, we had no other shot. Shan answered,

1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:31.880
<v Speaker 6>would kill that noise, and andever he.

1:23:31.960 --> 1:23:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Didn't have to.

1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:35.559
<v Speaker 6>So we came back with the bridges over and that's

1:23:35.560 --> 1:23:37.799
<v Speaker 6>when we was able to follow up with Criminal Minded.

1:23:38.080 --> 1:23:41.000
<v Speaker 6>We had four songs on the market. Now, Shan is

1:23:41.040 --> 1:23:43.160
<v Speaker 6>the reason I exist. So the least I could do

1:23:43.320 --> 1:23:48.720
<v Speaker 6>is Busses asked. That's the least I could do. You

1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:51.559
<v Speaker 6>know what I'm saying, show them that love and hopefully

1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.120
<v Speaker 6>I say, yo, somebody should write for Chancy.

1:23:54.280 --> 1:23:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Back to your first question, Back to the first verson.

1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:02.439
<v Speaker 6>Now, see if someone wrote for Sham, I would not

1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:03.479
<v Speaker 6>be mad at all.

1:24:03.880 --> 1:24:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Fuck that man. Save that nigga man, please.

1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:08.960
<v Speaker 2>So you kept saying to him, you told him, you

1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:13.599
<v Speaker 2>told him his name is Na spelled backwards, your father.

1:24:14.920 --> 1:24:15.800
<v Speaker 3>He's the opposite.

1:24:16.000 --> 1:24:18.639
<v Speaker 6>Yo, yo, let me pick up my nigga noads real quick,

1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:31.120
<v Speaker 6>because he said Queen's Bridge was done until Illmatic came out. Okay,

1:24:31.360 --> 1:24:34.599
<v Speaker 6>just for the history, Okay, Queens Bridge was criminal minded?

1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:37.280
<v Speaker 6>Was was the ship and that ship that was it? Okay,

1:24:38.920 --> 1:24:44.360
<v Speaker 6>I think Illmatic was better than criminal Minded. That's my opinion.

1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Me being a Queen's kid, I can understand where you're

1:24:50.520 --> 1:24:55.120
<v Speaker 2>coming from. But me living in that era, I gotta

1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>say criminal minded. If it wasn't a criminal minded, it

1:24:58.000 --> 1:24:59.080
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be an ill matter.

1:24:59.160 --> 1:25:00.920
<v Speaker 3>You could say that, no doubt, no doubt. We can

1:25:00.960 --> 1:25:02.679
<v Speaker 3>say so. Yeah, we can say.

1:25:02.520 --> 1:25:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm a real hip hop kid.

1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:04.280
<v Speaker 6>No no, no, no, no, no no.

1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:06.560
<v Speaker 2>No.

1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>He turned into real niggas. You influenced knaves too.

1:25:13.400 --> 1:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, you know what you are starting

1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:15.680
<v Speaker 3>right now.

1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:19.000
<v Speaker 6>Whoever's listening to us right now, go and listen to

1:25:19.080 --> 1:25:21.639
<v Speaker 6>both albums right now, back to back, back to back.

1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.240
<v Speaker 6>Listen to the whole Criminal Minded, and listen to the

1:25:24.280 --> 1:25:25.120
<v Speaker 6>whole Illmatic.

1:25:25.240 --> 1:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I did that this morning. That's the crazy ship.

1:25:28.840 --> 1:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Listen, listen, listen, you know that's what Criminal Mind is

1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:34.400
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite albums. I just it's two records

1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't really listen to but I listened to them.

1:25:38.600 --> 1:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But this morning I just woke up and I was like,

1:25:41.840 --> 1:25:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to listen to ill Madic. I don't know why,

1:25:45.080 --> 1:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>and I just listened to it, and then I listened

1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:50.479
<v Speaker 2>to Criminal Another Mind. If you want to switch the

1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:55.519
<v Speaker 2>champagne right yo. So so I understand what you're saying.

1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>But me living in that era, that's.

1:25:58.000 --> 1:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I can one hundred percent tell you NAS answer the

1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:01.680
<v Speaker 1>question the same way.

1:26:01.920 --> 1:26:03.840
<v Speaker 2>He'd be like, if it wasn't for her Criminal Minded,

1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.080
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't know because you made us step.

1:26:05.880 --> 1:26:08.680
<v Speaker 6>Our game up, you know what, that game, but that

1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:11.839
<v Speaker 6>game got stepped up to the point where hip hop changed.

1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.080
<v Speaker 2>No, but you changed hip hop too, just in case,

1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I know you're imagine and you humble,

1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:19.439
<v Speaker 2>but you changed hip hop. You You was the first

1:26:19.560 --> 1:26:23.640
<v Speaker 2>person you was. You was our Malcolm X. Let me

1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>break that down to you. It is because hip hop

1:26:27.040 --> 1:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>had took up like the PM dolls, and it had

1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:36.120
<v Speaker 2>took a hey, we're cool approach. But we wanted to

1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:39.679
<v Speaker 2>keep that attitude. But we also wanted to learn something

1:26:39.920 --> 1:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's the position you fulfilled. That's why that's why

1:26:42.960 --> 1:26:45.960
<v Speaker 2>your your name as a teacher would never be testing

1:26:46.920 --> 1:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>at all. No one could ever say he's not a

1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:53.759
<v Speaker 2>teacher because you taught us the wool tangs, the mob deeps,

1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the kabon and noriegas the nases. So I can't agree

1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>with your statement. I know your statement is humo saying

1:27:01.000 --> 1:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>that is better, but it is beat for beat.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but that's not But that's not how history happened.

1:27:12.080 --> 1:27:15.759
<v Speaker 2>How history happens is they say, you know this happened

1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:17.120
<v Speaker 2>in order for this to that way.

1:27:18.439 --> 1:27:22.320
<v Speaker 3>So that when I was coming from a different perspective about.

1:27:23.000 --> 1:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Talk about Shan, you're a great guy, a great guy.

1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:30.240
<v Speaker 6>We understand when you wait a minute, how else was

1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:32.200
<v Speaker 6>Queen's been supposed to come back?

1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>So now let's let's now let's answer Shan's question. Because

1:27:38.120 --> 1:27:41.479
<v Speaker 2>I listened to the interview, Shan is also a guard

1:27:41.600 --> 1:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>to me. He said that Molly told him not to respond.

1:27:48.120 --> 1:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of that?

1:27:49.560 --> 1:27:55.200
<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's pussy. It was right for him him

1:27:55.960 --> 1:28:05.719
<v Speaker 3>that My god, that's.

1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:09.040
<v Speaker 6>Grown ass man gonna tell you not to respond? We

1:28:09.160 --> 1:28:11.679
<v Speaker 6>eating your ass right now, nigga, somebody.

1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Respond as ship right, Oh man, this is real for me,

1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>this is so surreal. I don't even know where to go.

1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:33.000
<v Speaker 5>If we're gonna wrap this up, you know, get out

1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:34.960
<v Speaker 5>of here, man before we wrap this up.

1:28:35.160 --> 1:28:37.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm the only Miami represented here right now.

1:28:37.200 --> 1:28:39.120
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so it wouldn't be right for you to walk

1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:43.000
<v Speaker 5>away without me to represent my generation of Miami hip hopatogia.

1:28:44.160 --> 1:28:48.000
<v Speaker 5>And when you recorded with Mother Superior this album didn't really.

1:28:47.880 --> 1:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>See the like lame is this is your usually?

1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Lie?

1:28:50.720 --> 1:28:51.679
<v Speaker 1>What's Mother Superior?

1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:55.760
<v Speaker 5>Mother Superior is this dope MC that came out of

1:28:55.800 --> 1:28:59.160
<v Speaker 5>Miami in the mid nineties early mid nineties, and she

1:28:59.520 --> 1:29:01.680
<v Speaker 5>was spear heading our movement. I mean, there was those

1:29:01.720 --> 1:29:05.320
<v Speaker 5>funky bastards, there was Society Home Team, there was there

1:29:05.439 --> 1:29:08.040
<v Speaker 5>was We had a bubble of movement that was parallel

1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:10.960
<v Speaker 5>to the bass movement. Base, no doubt is a part

1:29:11.040 --> 1:29:14.479
<v Speaker 5>of our Miami culture. But we had we had a

1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:16.200
<v Speaker 5>hip hop and the way you guys were talking about

1:29:16.200 --> 1:29:18.200
<v Speaker 5>how everybody was talking about the Brooklyn and the Bronx

1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:20.880
<v Speaker 5>or whatever in the clubs, we had that problem here.

1:29:22.080 --> 1:29:25.200
<v Speaker 4>So what we're trying to do is build our own

1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:29.559
<v Speaker 4>identity record. So she did this album.

1:29:29.640 --> 1:29:33.320
<v Speaker 5>She got signed to Island Music, you know, strictly off

1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:36.960
<v Speaker 5>of underground radio, she did a song called rock Bottom,

1:29:37.880 --> 1:29:41.599
<v Speaker 5>which was totally representative of Miami, and then he did

1:29:41.640 --> 1:29:44.720
<v Speaker 5>a record with her, maybe a couple but this one

1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:46.439
<v Speaker 5>record I put on one of my mixtapes, but her

1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:47.240
<v Speaker 5>album never came out.

1:29:47.280 --> 1:29:50.280
<v Speaker 4>It got shelved. And he said, where you at? Where

1:29:50.320 --> 1:29:50.720
<v Speaker 4>you at?

1:29:51.000 --> 1:29:54.439
<v Speaker 5>Miami's on the map, if you remember that, And that

1:29:56.600 --> 1:30:00.439
<v Speaker 5>made the world of difference for a Miami hip ho kid.

1:30:02.320 --> 1:30:04.280
<v Speaker 5>And I just you couldn't leave without me telling you

1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:06.000
<v Speaker 5>that because it made the world of difference for all

1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:06.599
<v Speaker 5>of us out here.

1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's make that.

1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:13.479
<v Speaker 3>I felt some mother superior to the superior she was.

1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:14.599
<v Speaker 3>She was hot man.

1:30:14.600 --> 1:30:18.040
<v Speaker 4>When Stone words.

1:30:20.400 --> 1:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>One question, where was your mind at when you made

1:30:22.760 --> 1:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the sound of the police?

1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:27.519
<v Speaker 6>I was sick of these pigs man shooting us down

1:30:27.600 --> 1:30:30.280
<v Speaker 6>in the street. And it's still going on still what

1:30:30.400 --> 1:30:32.479
<v Speaker 6>it was going on since we got here?

1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So what was the sound? What year was that?

1:30:34.800 --> 1:30:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Technically? Ninety five? Damn?

1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>What what year are you at now?

1:30:38.720 --> 1:30:41.679
<v Speaker 3>Twenty sixteen? That's twenty years, twenty one.

1:30:41.680 --> 1:30:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Years and you made that record then, yeah, and it's

1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>still going on.

1:30:46.439 --> 1:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Now still to this table, little n W A man

1:30:49.360 --> 1:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>fucked the police?

1:30:50.400 --> 1:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>What was what year was fuck to the police.

1:30:52.240 --> 1:30:55.160
<v Speaker 3>That was eighty eighty nine.

1:30:55.720 --> 1:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And see, this is the thing is when people say,

1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, black people are overdoing it, we have documents.

1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Records that says no doubt that these people was doing it.

1:31:11.120 --> 1:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So I was just like to say, what was the Mondster?

1:31:13.520 --> 1:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You woke this in the South Bronx.

1:31:15.840 --> 1:31:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, keep in mind that. Wow, I don't even know

1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:20.600
<v Speaker 3>how to say this, but.

1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:30.160
<v Speaker 6>In the Bronx, if you was really successful with your

1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:33.879
<v Speaker 6>hustle in the hood, the cops was your friends.

1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Larry Davis day, Yeah, it were.

1:31:38.479 --> 1:31:41.639
<v Speaker 6>Larry Davis was right on our block like Webster Project.

1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:43.519
<v Speaker 6>He was up the block from Webster Project. The whole

1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:49.200
<v Speaker 6>thing went down, the cops was like they were gangster like.

1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:53.320
<v Speaker 6>It's like, oh boom, okay, they speed this up. Training

1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:57.760
<v Speaker 6>Day in the movie Training Day, that is every day

1:31:58.200 --> 1:32:00.960
<v Speaker 6>all day. Okay, just go watch Training Day and you'll

1:32:01.000 --> 1:32:04.120
<v Speaker 6>know what it is. It's just there's just another gang

1:32:04.200 --> 1:32:08.080
<v Speaker 6>with another jurisdiction. And then and this is what we

1:32:08.160 --> 1:32:10.880
<v Speaker 6>were dealing with. So if you remember in Bookie Down Productions,

1:32:11.439 --> 1:32:13.720
<v Speaker 6>we had a we had a dude called RoboCop that

1:32:13.920 --> 1:32:17.320
<v Speaker 6>was with us and there were two of them. One

1:32:18.000 --> 1:32:22.880
<v Speaker 6>was a Bounce was the lead bouncer at Latin Quarters

1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:27.400
<v Speaker 6>who is known for breaking dudes up in Latin Court.

1:32:27.479 --> 1:32:30.280
<v Speaker 6>He had a reputation. You didn't want to deal with

1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:36.160
<v Speaker 6>this dude, okay. And there was another dude, uh that

1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:40.760
<v Speaker 6>was a state trooper, New Jersey State trooper. When I'm

1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:43.760
<v Speaker 6>posting on the on the cover by all these necessary

1:32:43.880 --> 1:32:46.679
<v Speaker 6>with the uzzi, the uzi is from a New Jersey

1:32:46.840 --> 1:32:54.280
<v Speaker 6>state trooper, smer in the studioper.

1:32:54.560 --> 1:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't look at I didn't look as cool as you.

1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:59.200
<v Speaker 3>That was from a New Jersey state. You was so

1:32:59.320 --> 1:32:59.800
<v Speaker 3>with us.

1:33:00.680 --> 1:33:02.160
<v Speaker 6>It was like it got to a point where he

1:33:02.280 --> 1:33:05.640
<v Speaker 6>was like, you know what, we can't associate with you

1:33:05.880 --> 1:33:09.200
<v Speaker 6>anymore because of what was going on. It was a

1:33:09.320 --> 1:33:12.680
<v Speaker 6>split like in our own community, because like if you

1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:15.280
<v Speaker 6>really in the hood, like like you could be selling

1:33:15.400 --> 1:33:19.800
<v Speaker 6>mad drugs, but your brother's a cop, Like your cousin's

1:33:19.880 --> 1:33:23.360
<v Speaker 6>a cop, your uncle's a cop. Like you know, it's

1:33:23.400 --> 1:33:26.040
<v Speaker 6>not just oh, I'm a cop and everybody around me

1:33:26.240 --> 1:33:30.759
<v Speaker 6>is clean. It's the exact opposite. Dudes that are cops

1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:35.479
<v Speaker 6>even today, they gotta live with people like like, imagine

1:33:35.520 --> 1:33:38.160
<v Speaker 6>you a cop and every day you see crime all

1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:40.519
<v Speaker 6>around you. Every day, but you can just pick. Okay,

1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:41.719
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna arrest you today.

1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>How did you come up with the analogy from officer overseas?

1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:47.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh, but that's that's the most shit because when we

1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:50.880
<v Speaker 6>when we were first, when we were first brought here

1:33:52.040 --> 1:33:55.400
<v Speaker 6>not as slaves but really as soldiers on the Spanish

1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:59.920
<v Speaker 6>side and then slaves on the English side or the

1:34:00.160 --> 1:34:01.680
<v Speaker 6>that's controversial too.

1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:04.679
<v Speaker 3>But yo, heart, Yo here.

1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yo, we're gonna get your new phone care.

1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I need that one. I need that ship. I need

1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:13.240
<v Speaker 3>that ship is eighty.

1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Can't do that.

1:34:16.040 --> 1:34:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm bringing that ship back.

1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Forget you, personally buying you.

1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I gotta beep a nikes I got.

1:34:23.479 --> 1:34:23.519
<v Speaker 4>You.

1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Listen, is no word I said. Yah, I want to be.

1:34:29.840 --> 1:34:30.080
<v Speaker 6>Ship.

1:34:30.760 --> 1:34:37.080
<v Speaker 3>I got serious, serious, I got a bee beeper.

1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Bring beepers back. Yo.

1:34:41.960 --> 1:34:43.040
<v Speaker 4>You want to get with dream camps.

1:34:43.040 --> 1:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>You gotta beep.

1:34:43.720 --> 1:34:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you gotta beat us. I'm personally buying cares.

1:34:47.479 --> 1:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, okay, So you remember you're talking about

1:34:51.000 --> 1:34:52.720
<v Speaker 2>because you can forget it and.

1:34:55.320 --> 1:34:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I did.

1:34:56.200 --> 1:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's okay.

1:34:57.479 --> 1:35:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Listen, we wanted to take the community, Oh, cops in

1:35:00.720 --> 1:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>the community.

1:35:01.320 --> 1:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>That's right, signing the police.

1:35:04.040 --> 1:35:07.360
<v Speaker 6>So the cops is always your friends in the hood,

1:35:07.400 --> 1:35:10.640
<v Speaker 6>which is the weirdest ship because when you really in

1:35:10.720 --> 1:35:14.479
<v Speaker 6>the hood, cops ain't arresting you and shooting you. These

1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:18.040
<v Speaker 6>are bitches that are shooting at us. This motherfuckers. That

1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:22.240
<v Speaker 6>ain't no real ship. That's some bullshit. Okay, that's that's scared.

1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:25.519
<v Speaker 6>They said, we scared. You know, that's what we shooting

1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:31.880
<v Speaker 6>because we're scared. Real cops they know exactly who's selling

1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:37.200
<v Speaker 6>who they hit the d a yo, go watch training day.

1:35:38.160 --> 1:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>The d ain't tell you.

1:35:39.320 --> 1:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, this dude to this one.

1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I say all the time, when we have police brutality

1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:50.240
<v Speaker 2>is when they stop letting the cops from the.

1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Hood, the hood, you know, you know what you call it,

1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>from down the block. He went to school with him.

1:35:57.960 --> 1:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>You know he's a thief, right, you don't need to

1:36:00.280 --> 1:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>kill him.

1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>But when what happened is they take the cops from

1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>our hood and they bring them to another place, and

1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:09.679
<v Speaker 2>then they bring the cops from another place, and that's.

1:36:11.080 --> 1:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Borderline.

1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:16.439
<v Speaker 2>That's that's one of the essential reasons why police brutality exists.

1:36:16.479 --> 1:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Because if you had Jamal that that's from Soundview Projects

1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and that went to school in Soundview, and then now

1:36:24.960 --> 1:36:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I was patrolling Soundview, he's going to be different as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to Walter as a Walter who's from wherever wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>But now he's patrolling Soundview. He's never seen a kid

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<v Speaker 2>with braids. He's never seen a kid either since I see.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's going to just do whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's one.

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<v Speaker 3>Add on.

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<v Speaker 6>The police are supposed to be the model citizen in

1:36:54.200 --> 1:36:57.800
<v Speaker 6>the community, no matter who you are, white cop, black cop,

1:36:58.160 --> 1:37:00.599
<v Speaker 6>you cop, Asian cop, Arab cop, fuck.

1:37:00.439 --> 1:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Who you are?

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<v Speaker 6>You take police training, You're supposed to be the model citizen.

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<v Speaker 6>Should you should have the most restraint. Okay, kids are

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<v Speaker 6>looking at you. They should be able to look at

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<v Speaker 6>you and be like, yo, dad, I want to be

1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:17.639
<v Speaker 6>a cop, and your dad be like, yo, you gotta

1:37:17.680 --> 1:37:20.080
<v Speaker 6>really be a good man to be a cop. And

1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:23.760
<v Speaker 6>that that's what it's supposed to be. But our children

1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:29.639
<v Speaker 6>forget adults. Okay, children know the cops are corrupt. Okay,

1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:33.000
<v Speaker 6>that's the state we are, right, Kids, not forget the adults.

1:37:34.080 --> 1:37:37.200
<v Speaker 6>Kids know I'm not safe around this dude. I'd rather

1:37:37.320 --> 1:37:39.880
<v Speaker 6>be around my shooters over here, we're in the rag

1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:42.960
<v Speaker 6>on their head. I'm more safe around crips and bloods.

1:37:43.479 --> 1:37:45.600
<v Speaker 6>I rather hot yo, I'm even gonna say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just saying I rather hire them, which we do

1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:55.040
<v Speaker 6>as opposed to some some off duty cop. Years ago,

1:37:55.160 --> 1:37:59.120
<v Speaker 6>we used to hire off duty cops x FBI. These

1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:01.360
<v Speaker 6>dudes need jobs. You just go ahead and you hire

1:38:01.400 --> 1:38:03.040
<v Speaker 6>them for and now you give them some money. You're

1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:06.400
<v Speaker 6>doing your country, your service. These are veterans and shit,

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<v Speaker 6>you do your thing now. It's like, nah, man, let

1:38:10.360 --> 1:38:14.280
<v Speaker 6>me organize these blogs over here. Hit them with some money,

1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:16.200
<v Speaker 6>because I say, go on the street. Four.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me hit them with some cashing. Y'all go.

1:38:18.720 --> 1:38:21.559
<v Speaker 6>Y'all can stand there and just do what you're supposed

1:38:21.560 --> 1:38:23.720
<v Speaker 6>to do and get organized. I'd rather hire them as

1:38:23.800 --> 1:38:26.840
<v Speaker 6>long as we know that we're not safe around the police.

1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:28.960
<v Speaker 6>This whole shit is corrupt, and let me show you

1:38:29.080 --> 1:38:32.439
<v Speaker 6>this on some Illuminati shit if you really want to know.

1:38:33.479 --> 1:38:40.640
<v Speaker 6>Years ago, like eighty two, there was supposedly a conspiracy

1:38:40.800 --> 1:38:45.360
<v Speaker 6>theory going around about eighty two eighty three. It said

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<v Speaker 6>that the new World Order is going to include a

1:38:49.720 --> 1:38:55.400
<v Speaker 6>global police force, and the way to implement the global

1:38:55.520 --> 1:39:00.719
<v Speaker 6>police force was for local police to become so hated

1:39:00.880 --> 1:39:05.400
<v Speaker 6>by the local community that the local communities cry out

1:39:05.840 --> 1:39:11.920
<v Speaker 6>for international interference. So now you have these cops today

1:39:13.320 --> 1:39:16.960
<v Speaker 6>randomly just shooting down black people, just shooting and it's stupid.

1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:21.000
<v Speaker 6>It's like, it's ridiculous. Now the rest of the world

1:39:21.800 --> 1:39:25.519
<v Speaker 6>is saying, Yo, what's up with America? What's what's somewhere?

1:39:25.600 --> 1:39:27.320
<v Speaker 6>You go to other places, you know, Norway, you go

1:39:27.360 --> 1:39:30.599
<v Speaker 6>to places, dude's looking at us like wea crazy, Like Yo,

1:39:30.680 --> 1:39:33.800
<v Speaker 6>what's going I got Africans asking me, yo, bro, what's up?

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<v Speaker 8>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>A black man?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you land in these different countries, they be like welcome, like.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, you're here, like you survived.

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<v Speaker 2>And dudes, do you think that's because because Barack became

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<v Speaker 2>president it got worse or.

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<v Speaker 6>No no, yeah, no, no, no, no, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>he got to do. You got a lot of factors

1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:59.240
<v Speaker 6>in it. First of all, people want black people in jail. Okay,

1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:01.719
<v Speaker 6>people make him money on it. Black people are making

1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:03.519
<v Speaker 6>money on black people in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1:40:04.560 --> 1:40:10.120
<v Speaker 6>This black DA sends no doubt this Black DA sending

1:40:10.160 --> 1:40:12.920
<v Speaker 6>black people a prison. Black judges are sending black people

1:40:13.000 --> 1:40:13.360
<v Speaker 6>are prison.

1:40:13.600 --> 1:40:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Black cops are sending black people Black.

1:40:16.280 --> 1:40:20.080
<v Speaker 6>Cops black stop shooting black Peobo were all gonna drop

1:40:21.120 --> 1:40:25.360
<v Speaker 6>I got you, you know. So it's like it's like,

1:40:26.600 --> 1:40:29.400
<v Speaker 6>are we really at war with any outside for us?

1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:32.320
<v Speaker 6>Or we at war with ourselves? Are we just going

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<v Speaker 6>along with the script that they have planned for us?

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<v Speaker 6>And it's like straight up and down they just had

1:40:38.920 --> 1:40:41.479
<v Speaker 6>Tyler Qualle was just with me the other day. He

1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:42.759
<v Speaker 6>came over so Washington.

1:40:47.240 --> 1:40:49.759
<v Speaker 3>He just told me he just came from the White

1:40:49.800 --> 1:40:53.519
<v Speaker 3>House with a couple other rappers were there, and really

1:40:53.640 --> 1:40:56.719
<v Speaker 3>nothing got discussed, you know. And they never call people

1:40:56.840 --> 1:40:59.880
<v Speaker 3>like me or Chuck or m One or I mean,

1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:07.120
<v Speaker 3>they don no doubt that they never know. But you

1:41:07.200 --> 1:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>know what they had Rick there. You know what I'm saying.

1:41:12.200 --> 1:41:12.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

1:41:13.000 --> 1:41:14.880
<v Speaker 6>So I'm saying, no, why don't they because they know

1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:16.880
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna come with the truth. Look, here's the point

1:41:17.080 --> 1:41:23.160
<v Speaker 6>is that is that we're moving into this script. The

1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:27.600
<v Speaker 6>United States has to become what its name is in

1:41:27.760 --> 1:41:31.920
<v Speaker 6>order to for it to survive. United fu all this

1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:37.519
<v Speaker 6>black ship, give me this, Yes, this is this legendary.

1:41:37.560 --> 1:41:41.759
<v Speaker 6>This is a bit right, America. You gotta become united.

1:41:41.880 --> 1:41:46.360
<v Speaker 6>United America got to stand up for America, like straight

1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:48.880
<v Speaker 6>up when you go to other countries, niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>This in US man, this in Americas. This is not everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Because first game President, everybody overseas, they was like black

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<v Speaker 2>man ship, like the like the first year word.

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<v Speaker 4>Then after that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you know what, there's a rumor that

1:42:12.800 --> 1:42:16.519
<v Speaker 1>you didn't fly. I was taking boats yep, and.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt and reatha Franklin.

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<v Speaker 1>So so do you do you fly now?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'll fly privately. I love flying.

1:42:25.000 --> 1:42:28.679
<v Speaker 6>I fly helicopters. I'll fly private jets, you know, things

1:42:28.720 --> 1:42:30.920
<v Speaker 6>like that. Take a few private jets in there. But

1:42:31.920 --> 1:42:35.559
<v Speaker 6>commercial airlines for me, it is too much. The love

1:42:35.640 --> 1:42:38.240
<v Speaker 6>in the hood is too much. For char rest, I

1:42:38.280 --> 1:42:42.000
<v Speaker 6>don't I can't do nothing like you know, like to

1:42:42.080 --> 1:42:44.320
<v Speaker 6>get to the airport. It takes me an hour, the

1:42:44.400 --> 1:42:47.519
<v Speaker 6>baggage clean, bucking the whole baggage claim. I gotta take

1:42:47.560 --> 1:42:50.760
<v Speaker 6>pictures with everybody pun I'm not leaving my people. I'm

1:42:50.800 --> 1:42:53.559
<v Speaker 6>not just gonna walk past you. So everybody said, yo, Chris,

1:42:53.640 --> 1:42:55.840
<v Speaker 6>I gotta stop. I gotta take pictures. I got signs ship,

1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:58.640
<v Speaker 6>get on the plane, the stewardess bucket, the people on

1:42:58.760 --> 1:43:02.479
<v Speaker 6>the on the plane again, Captain, I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>And this was ninety seven, I said, forget it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not flying. I'm not flying no more. I can't.

1:43:08.080 --> 1:43:12.200
<v Speaker 3>You haven't since ye, since ninety seven, actually ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make some noise for me being rich.

1:43:15.920 --> 1:43:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:43:16.600 --> 1:43:21.200
<v Speaker 2>You gotta retreat the line it's a rich listen there, God,

1:43:21.840 --> 1:43:22.559
<v Speaker 2>it's not rich.

1:43:22.760 --> 1:43:24.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a rich man. I'm a very poor man.

1:43:24.680 --> 1:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>No, no, me too, I say the same.

1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:29.479
<v Speaker 3>I take poverty. I'm not rich, me too.

1:43:34.120 --> 1:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>But you want the private things, let's talk about it.

1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:39.760
<v Speaker 6>But but I will privately. Look, I take very good

1:43:39.800 --> 1:43:42.000
<v Speaker 6>care of my wife and my children. Okay, that's what

1:43:42.080 --> 1:43:45.200
<v Speaker 6>it is. I don't need anything, but they need a lot.

1:43:46.040 --> 1:43:48.320
<v Speaker 6>So you know, I say, Look, I don't want to

1:43:48.360 --> 1:43:50.479
<v Speaker 6>have a career where I'm away from my kids or

1:43:50.600 --> 1:43:51.960
<v Speaker 6>my wife and this, that and the other.

1:43:52.160 --> 1:43:53.840
<v Speaker 3>So and I can't be away from my wife. She

1:43:53.920 --> 1:43:54.800
<v Speaker 3>books on the tours.

1:43:55.160 --> 1:43:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Did you book a boat to London?

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that too.

1:43:58.680 --> 1:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I heard this story.

1:43:59.439 --> 1:44:01.360
<v Speaker 3>But that's why I'm rushing out of here and now

1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:03.519
<v Speaker 3>to get Yeah, I'm going.

1:44:03.479 --> 1:44:04.360
<v Speaker 4>To Spain tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk about are you getting in a boat?

1:44:12.960 --> 1:44:14.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm going tomorrow?

1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:17.920
<v Speaker 6>Is Norwisian Norwesian Cruise pulls right up to your port.

1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:20.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm getting on that ship and then it goes to

1:44:21.000 --> 1:44:23.000
<v Speaker 6>it goes to Spain many days.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen days, I'll be in Barcelona.

1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>What so, No, this is you in college? Is like

1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the only two left?

1:44:34.840 --> 1:44:35.040
<v Speaker 6>You know?

1:44:35.160 --> 1:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>College don't fly neither?

1:44:36.560 --> 1:44:41.280
<v Speaker 3>No, I think he got it. I expected why should

1:44:41.360 --> 1:44:42.840
<v Speaker 3>college fly? Why should he fly?

1:44:43.240 --> 1:44:43.280
<v Speaker 4>So?

1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Why what? What?

1:44:44.200 --> 1:44:45.720
<v Speaker 1>What? Why you wouldn't fly?

1:44:46.280 --> 1:44:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Well?

1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, well, first of all, like I told you, commercial

1:44:49.080 --> 1:44:52.640
<v Speaker 6>travel to me is just hectic. Besides like you now,

1:44:52.840 --> 1:44:55.439
<v Speaker 6>besides that, I have books to write. I got rhymes

1:44:55.520 --> 1:44:58.639
<v Speaker 6>to right, I read a lot. My life is slower,

1:44:59.040 --> 1:45:01.559
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying. I take time with my family,

1:45:01.720 --> 1:45:04.599
<v Speaker 6>my wife, my daughter, my sons, like you need time

1:45:04.840 --> 1:45:08.680
<v Speaker 6>for that. So you know, fourteen days at see, I'm

1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:10.880
<v Speaker 6>finishing up three books that I'm just finishing.

1:45:10.960 --> 1:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying you just zone out, zone out, you

1:45:14.240 --> 1:45:16.479
<v Speaker 2>zone try that one? You should you should try right

1:45:16.560 --> 1:45:19.120
<v Speaker 2>and rhyme at I got a d D.

1:45:19.360 --> 1:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Hit that water. You don't have a d D. Smoke

1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:21.800
<v Speaker 3>too much?

1:45:24.280 --> 1:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I might just jump over.

1:45:25.520 --> 1:45:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Actually is cured marijuana, curreus, That's what I'm saying.

1:45:29.800 --> 1:45:30.800
<v Speaker 4>So it doesn't have it.

1:45:30.920 --> 1:45:33.639
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is the weed I smoke is so loud,

1:45:33.800 --> 1:45:35.280
<v Speaker 2>like it's gonna be a judge.

1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>That come out.

1:45:35.920 --> 1:45:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell your story, right, let me tell you story.

1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I was in Hawaii because I remember this story because

1:45:40.960 --> 1:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>he's drinking my ties. So I'm in Hawaii, right, I'm out,

1:45:45.600 --> 1:45:48.080
<v Speaker 2>hold on, hold on, I'm smoking weed.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my first marriage, it's my first I'm married again,

1:45:55.560 --> 1:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's my second.

1:45:56.160 --> 1:45:56.280
<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 1>Pray for me.

1:45:58.920 --> 1:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sitting there smoking. The people at the Four Seasons,

1:46:04.040 --> 1:46:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the Four Seasons Maui. So they call me and they say, yo, are.

1:46:09.880 --> 1:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>You smoking up there?

1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what I paid

1:46:14.439 --> 1:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>for this room, but I just know my accountant lost

1:46:17.240 --> 1:46:21.240
<v Speaker 2>her mind. So I'm like, yeah, I'm smoking. They're like,

1:46:21.360 --> 1:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>cauld you would you mind not smoking on the terrace?

1:46:24.200 --> 1:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>So I said, now you're inviting me to smoke in

1:46:26.439 --> 1:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the room.

1:46:28.200 --> 1:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>They're like, you're right.

1:46:29.760 --> 1:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we have a very important guess that is upstairs.

1:46:34.000 --> 1:46:36.120
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, did the guests pay more than me?

1:46:37.200 --> 1:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And they're like no.

1:46:38.640 --> 1:46:42.479
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, well, they're like, mister Santiago, that's my

1:46:42.600 --> 1:46:44.240
<v Speaker 2>last name. I don't know if you don't buy Puerto

1:46:44.320 --> 1:46:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Rican makes a noise from Latina.

1:46:45.960 --> 1:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm black and Latin.

1:46:48.240 --> 1:46:50.840
<v Speaker 3>So they say, I'm actually performing in Santiago.

1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>This is a gift. So they say to me, they say,

1:46:55.240 --> 1:46:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you're right, You're actually outside. You can't do it. Bo I.

1:46:58.479 --> 1:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Look on the news.

1:47:00.040 --> 1:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>This is when Oprah step son had drowned in Hawaii

1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and Maui. So the person I was telling them to

1:47:09.360 --> 1:47:12.599
<v Speaker 2>tell them the funk that I paid the same amount

1:47:13.240 --> 1:47:14.160
<v Speaker 2>was fucking Oprah.

1:47:16.360 --> 1:47:18.320
<v Speaker 4>This is morbid story.

1:47:20.400 --> 1:47:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I liked it.

1:47:21.680 --> 1:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I actually paid square for square. We had the same

1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:27.080
<v Speaker 2>exact room. God bless you know the people who passed

1:47:27.120 --> 1:47:30.640
<v Speaker 2>away and and everything. But that ship was just the

1:47:30.800 --> 1:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>moment for It was a moment for just me standing

1:47:33.920 --> 1:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>in my ground. But now I'm aging and trying to

1:47:37.640 --> 1:47:38.320
<v Speaker 2>make this one work.

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<v Speaker 3>Second was always the best.

1:47:40.400 --> 1:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>You'd you're the second one to first year.

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<v Speaker 3>And a half, and big up to her, Rest in peace, blessed.

1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:51.200
<v Speaker 8>I did not that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm every religion, by the way, So if you see

1:47:53.720 --> 1:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>me do that, I'm a Muslim.

1:47:57.240 --> 1:48:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Christian, God body, Kay, thank you for so much for

1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:02.280
<v Speaker 2>hanging out with us.

1:48:02.439 --> 1:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna we can and I'll come back.

1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:09.679
<v Speaker 3>No about fourteen days when I come back. The people

1:48:09.800 --> 1:48:10.080
<v Speaker 3>need you.

1:48:10.280 --> 1:48:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Let's just break it down for these people. You are

1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:15.840
<v Speaker 2>going fourteen days. So now, how does this cruise happen?

1:48:15.920 --> 1:48:17.559
<v Speaker 2>You leave Miami, do.

1:48:17.560 --> 1:48:18.559
<v Speaker 1>You stop anywhere?

1:48:18.760 --> 1:48:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1:48:19.400 --> 1:48:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Who do you stop at?

1:48:20.880 --> 1:48:23.360
<v Speaker 4>We stop in Pune, call Africa, we stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>All you go from Miami to Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we got real quick from Miami Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of.

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<v Speaker 3>This.

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<v Speaker 6>Some Bahamas, A little Bahamas, O Bahamas. Then you get

1:48:36.640 --> 1:48:39.160
<v Speaker 6>out to Africa. Then you get done this trip before.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, no doubt not on this ship. But I've

1:48:41.760 --> 1:48:42.840
<v Speaker 6>done other ships. I've done that.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many times do you say you dim this?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, saund yes, oh at least thirty times? And you

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<v Speaker 6>believe in them both.

1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>You've never been Titanic.

1:48:52.640 --> 1:48:55.880
<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, there's no Titanic anyway in the Atlantic Ocean.

1:48:55.920 --> 1:48:57.599
<v Speaker 6>The coast got will get you in ten minutes.

1:48:58.840 --> 1:48:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

1:49:00.360 --> 1:49:02.960
<v Speaker 6>It ain't all that boat. That's bullshit. That's this movie ship.

1:49:03.240 --> 1:49:06.000
<v Speaker 6>This rich motherfucker's on that boat. That boat ain't going nowhere.

1:49:07.360 --> 1:49:11.120
<v Speaker 6>There's no there's nothing, there's nothing now mind you. Now

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<v Speaker 6>come on now, Caribbean Cruises and.

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<v Speaker 3>All that you the cruise. Do I get them, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt. You get platinum gold status.

1:49:26.680 --> 1:49:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Passengers, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But the triangle, the Bermuda Triangle. You ever been there?

1:49:32.439 --> 1:49:35.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're in the part of the Bermuda Triangle.

1:49:35.960 --> 1:49:37.840
<v Speaker 1>You've been to the right through it.

1:49:38.280 --> 1:49:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Get the Bermuda.

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<v Speaker 6>Triangle only acts up when when like you know you

1:49:43.800 --> 1:49:47.519
<v Speaker 6>you have to go through that and like like it's

1:49:47.560 --> 1:49:51.200
<v Speaker 6>like certain seasons where they say it's like hurricane season

1:49:51.320 --> 1:49:52.080
<v Speaker 6>or this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, everything gets me. The bottom line. You trust a

1:49:55.320 --> 1:49:59.160
<v Speaker 2>boat more than a plane? No, no, no, okay, I.

1:49:59.240 --> 1:50:03.280
<v Speaker 6>Trust me driving ship more than anything. I would prefer

1:50:03.880 --> 1:50:07.600
<v Speaker 6>to get my own boat and sail across the sea myself.

1:50:07.960 --> 1:50:10.320
<v Speaker 6>But I'm not going to settle for a small yacht.

1:50:10.720 --> 1:50:13.160
<v Speaker 6>Like you know, I could do a small yacht right now,

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<v Speaker 6>but that's not what I want. What I want is

1:50:15.760 --> 1:50:18.160
<v Speaker 6>an actual ship that I could go across and that

1:50:18.280 --> 1:50:21.439
<v Speaker 6>costs mad money. So I'm just holding out till I

1:50:21.479 --> 1:50:23.040
<v Speaker 6>can get my own ship, and then I could I

1:50:23.080 --> 1:50:23.679
<v Speaker 6>could see.

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<v Speaker 2>Some motherfuckers want to buy planes. They want to ship,

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<v Speaker 2>pay us one and more owner ship goddam.

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<v Speaker 3>Straight up, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think I'm gonna give you this last one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the last question.

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<v Speaker 2>Boxing don't have no representative, which means that if you're boxer,

1:50:47.520 --> 1:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you make it, you make it. If you're a boxer,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't make it, you're fucked up. There's no there's

1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:57.479
<v Speaker 2>no reparations, there's no like you know, type of you know,

1:50:57.600 --> 1:50:58.360
<v Speaker 2>to hold you down.

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<v Speaker 1>Hip hop is the only other.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, entertainment company that we might have

1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:08.479
<v Speaker 2>thirty people, that's down with us.

1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But when you go on that vocal ble for you

1:51:10.920 --> 1:51:12.720
<v Speaker 1>go to perform that record, it's just you.

1:51:13.720 --> 1:51:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Similar to boxing, we don't have nothing to representing us

1:51:17.360 --> 1:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>in hip hop. We hear that the president just recently

1:51:20.640 --> 1:51:23.240
<v Speaker 2>met with these people to our lib quality brothers that

1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:26.200
<v Speaker 2>we know busta rhyms. What do you think is our

1:51:26.240 --> 1:51:30.080
<v Speaker 2>solution to make we need a hip hop You you

1:51:30.200 --> 1:51:32.320
<v Speaker 2>wanted the life insurance or the health insurance.

1:51:32.400 --> 1:51:34.280
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm even further than that now.

1:51:35.000 --> 1:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well let me because like right now, like DC right,

1:51:40.479 --> 1:51:44.160
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal guy lost his voice, there should have been health

1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:46.560
<v Speaker 2>insurance that kind of helped him restore that.

1:51:47.000 --> 1:51:47.640
<v Speaker 3>We didn't have that.

1:51:47.760 --> 1:51:51.160
<v Speaker 2>And right now, because Jadakis said something on our podcast,

1:51:51.240 --> 1:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>he said, we're the only people who have a hip

1:51:53.720 --> 1:51:58.400
<v Speaker 2>hop South, a hip hop regions. Well, there's no hip hop.

1:51:58.840 --> 1:52:02.240
<v Speaker 2>There's no rock and rolls out, there's no rock and roll.

1:52:02.479 --> 1:52:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Why are we segregating?

1:52:03.680 --> 1:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Why are we say and do we need this?

1:52:06.479 --> 1:52:11.200
<v Speaker 2>This this policies where we if HRC gets sick, we

1:52:11.320 --> 1:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>can go and help it.

1:52:13.080 --> 1:52:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Do we need that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes we do, Yes we do, and and and and

1:52:17.760 --> 1:52:21.400
<v Speaker 6>and I advocate it absolutely. Unity is the only thing

1:52:21.479 --> 1:52:24.519
<v Speaker 6>we talked about, American unity. Let's let's tweak it down

1:52:24.600 --> 1:52:28.519
<v Speaker 6>to hip hop unity. Hip hop is the greatest urban

1:52:28.720 --> 1:52:34.200
<v Speaker 6>movement to hit human history. Let's just start human history. Okay,

1:52:34.600 --> 1:52:40.439
<v Speaker 6>human history, Okay, hip hop breaking him seeing graffiti, DJ

1:52:40.600 --> 1:52:45.160
<v Speaker 6>and beatboxing. You can add street fashion, language, knowledge, all

1:52:45.240 --> 1:52:49.240
<v Speaker 6>of that, that movement in the hood. That that right there,

1:52:50.479 --> 1:52:55.479
<v Speaker 6>hip hop is is what America really is. It's like

1:52:55.600 --> 1:53:00.320
<v Speaker 6>the true declaration of Independence. It's what America is. But

1:53:00.479 --> 1:53:03.880
<v Speaker 6>we got these old people. You ask me also about

1:53:04.000 --> 1:53:06.880
<v Speaker 6>hip hop's old school. Okay, I have respect for the

1:53:06.960 --> 1:53:09.640
<v Speaker 6>old school. We all we should. Those are the ancestors,

1:53:09.880 --> 1:53:13.160
<v Speaker 6>those are the elders, those are the fathers, godfathers and

1:53:13.720 --> 1:53:17.120
<v Speaker 6>so on. That's that's what it is, right. But when

1:53:17.160 --> 1:53:21.280
<v Speaker 6>you don't do your job. You don't deserve the respect

1:53:21.360 --> 1:53:26.000
<v Speaker 6>of the youth. Elders always asking for respect that they

1:53:26.080 --> 1:53:31.360
<v Speaker 6>don't deserve me. I try to earn the respect of

1:53:31.479 --> 1:53:34.080
<v Speaker 6>the youth. I don't look down on them. I think

1:53:34.160 --> 1:53:37.360
<v Speaker 6>they're smarter than me. I think they're faster than me.

1:53:37.880 --> 1:53:40.479
<v Speaker 6>I think they think of things beyond what I can

1:53:40.600 --> 1:53:41.200
<v Speaker 6>think about.

1:53:41.600 --> 1:53:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course I tell them, Hey, look, I'm the old

1:53:45.000 --> 1:53:47.400
<v Speaker 6>head in the room, and I like that shit. I'm fifty.

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<v Speaker 6>Fuck this shit, Okay, that's my shit. I got an

1:53:50.439 --> 1:53:51.679
<v Speaker 6>AARP cord.

1:54:08.800 --> 1:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Dude, got this.

1:54:14.080 --> 1:54:31.000
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. What fifty percent off hotels? What? Yo?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you. Okay, we yo, we're the eldest

1:54:36.480 --> 1:54:36.720
<v Speaker 3>in this.

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<v Speaker 6>Young people are supposed to look up to us and

1:54:41.360 --> 1:54:44.560
<v Speaker 6>be like, Yo, that's what it means to be fifty

1:54:44.640 --> 1:54:48.360
<v Speaker 6>in hip hop world. You got your knowledge downpack, your

1:54:48.480 --> 1:54:52.640
<v Speaker 6>family straight, you got your money right, You're doing your thing.

1:54:52.840 --> 1:54:56.720
<v Speaker 6>That's what young people need to see and see. More blueprint,

1:54:56.880 --> 1:55:03.480
<v Speaker 6>the blueprint. Now we're gonna do it. Shows like this,

1:55:03.680 --> 1:55:07.280
<v Speaker 6>your ship bringing people together right now as we speak.

1:55:07.680 --> 1:55:10.000
<v Speaker 6>Right now, as we speak, dude is hearing what it is.

1:55:10.520 --> 1:55:13.640
<v Speaker 6>What we gotta do is really unite And here's what

1:55:13.760 --> 1:55:16.200
<v Speaker 6>it's gonna take. Here's you asked this about to stop

1:55:16.240 --> 1:55:18.720
<v Speaker 6>the violence movement? About why brothers ain't doing that today?

1:55:18.800 --> 1:55:21.160
<v Speaker 6>What like what we're so hard to do that today?

1:55:22.240 --> 1:55:28.160
<v Speaker 6>Too much, too much competition, not enough cooperation. Okay, we

1:55:28.480 --> 1:55:34.120
<v Speaker 6>live in a capitalist sidey we we we we live

1:55:34.280 --> 1:55:42.240
<v Speaker 6>in a capitalist society where uh uh, where competition.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the number one order of the day.

1:55:45.720 --> 1:55:48.840
<v Speaker 6>So the young a train to kill the all so

1:55:49.000 --> 1:55:51.080
<v Speaker 6>that you can get so that you could be what

1:55:51.200 --> 1:55:53.440
<v Speaker 6>it is the younger train to kill the all? The

1:55:53.640 --> 1:55:56.360
<v Speaker 6>all a train to kill the young so you can

1:55:56.440 --> 1:55:59.400
<v Speaker 6>stay in power. Kill these young as as they coming up.

1:56:00.040 --> 1:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>What you take hip hop the only generation like you know,

1:56:03.360 --> 1:56:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the brothers could talk forever.

1:56:05.800 --> 1:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Why do they try to kill the older?

1:56:08.520 --> 1:56:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's that it's that competition. It's still competition.

1:56:12.960 --> 1:56:15.880
<v Speaker 6>Look when we start, when we stop thinking of hip

1:56:15.920 --> 1:56:19.120
<v Speaker 6>hop as a music and start thinking of it as

1:56:19.160 --> 1:56:21.320
<v Speaker 6>a culture, a nation.

1:56:21.640 --> 1:56:22.360
<v Speaker 3>A community.

1:56:22.480 --> 1:56:25.840
<v Speaker 6>When you start realizing that you are a nation, you're

1:56:25.880 --> 1:56:29.680
<v Speaker 6>a sovereign nation, all we gotta do is unite.

1:56:29.760 --> 1:56:32.080
<v Speaker 4>There's no ages, just just unite.

1:56:32.240 --> 1:56:35.800
<v Speaker 6>Just here's the unity I hear it is. Let's print

1:56:35.880 --> 1:56:39.120
<v Speaker 6>our own currency. All right, start right. This is the

1:56:39.280 --> 1:56:43.480
<v Speaker 6>unity of any nation starts with trust. We print one

1:56:43.600 --> 1:56:47.680
<v Speaker 6>hundred thousand dollars for every hip hop citizen in existence.

1:56:47.680 --> 1:56:51.560
<v Speaker 6>We have a million citizens. We print one hundred million

1:56:51.720 --> 1:56:52.520
<v Speaker 6>of our currency.

1:56:52.560 --> 1:56:52.960
<v Speaker 3>We get.

1:56:54.360 --> 1:56:54.839
<v Speaker 4>Currency.

1:56:55.640 --> 1:57:03.160
<v Speaker 6>Right, he'll be a fifty cent I'm coming right now here.

1:57:03.200 --> 1:57:05.840
<v Speaker 6>He'll be a fifty cent piece of fifties.

1:57:05.480 --> 1:57:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Worth more than that.

1:57:06.440 --> 1:57:09.680
<v Speaker 4>But what I'm saying, no, print our own currency.

1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And let's see if the people spend that.

1:57:11.840 --> 1:57:14.840
<v Speaker 4>No, they will. You'll be instantly rich.

1:57:15.120 --> 1:57:18.320
<v Speaker 2>So instead of people buying albums, we give them, give

1:57:18.360 --> 1:57:19.040
<v Speaker 2>them currency.

1:57:19.240 --> 1:57:23.560
<v Speaker 6>Buy our currency, not an albums. Right, I forget selling

1:57:23.640 --> 1:57:24.000
<v Speaker 6>an album.

1:57:24.080 --> 1:57:25.360
<v Speaker 3>We did that. We know that game.

1:57:25.720 --> 1:57:29.839
<v Speaker 6>Now let's sell currencies in which you got the KRS currency.

1:57:29.880 --> 1:57:31.640
<v Speaker 6>And dude, be like, yo, this shit is worth this

1:57:31.840 --> 1:57:35.560
<v Speaker 6>this week up against the American dollar against this is

1:57:35.640 --> 1:57:39.440
<v Speaker 6>the end, up against the euro, up against the ship. Yo. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>if you gave me one hundred thousand dollar, let's say

1:57:42.720 --> 1:57:44.440
<v Speaker 6>you get no, let's say I gave you one hundred

1:57:44.440 --> 1:57:47.840
<v Speaker 6>thousand Okay, I'll give you one hundred thousand hip hop

1:57:48.000 --> 1:57:50.280
<v Speaker 6>currency currency Okay, hip hop.

1:57:50.440 --> 1:57:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Now you're gonna spend it with my man.

1:57:52.720 --> 1:57:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Right here, what we want is specialized people to have

1:57:58.120 --> 1:57:58.640
<v Speaker 6>this money.

1:57:59.280 --> 1:58:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Electricians. Right now, hip hop is old enough.

1:58:01.360 --> 1:58:05.160
<v Speaker 6>We got doctors, lawyers, your ps workers, We got all

1:58:05.360 --> 1:58:10.840
<v Speaker 6>kinds of entrepreneurs, okay, huge entrepreneurs. All we gotta do

1:58:11.480 --> 1:58:15.560
<v Speaker 6>is trade our own currency with each other, with each other.

1:58:16.240 --> 1:58:20.440
<v Speaker 6>This hip hop is it own stores, farms. Look due,

1:58:20.560 --> 1:58:22.200
<v Speaker 6>funk that American dollar.

1:58:30.200 --> 1:58:31.880
<v Speaker 4>D I here, I can't, can't.

1:58:32.880 --> 1:58:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see if you're gonna hit the blind.

1:58:36.760 --> 1:58:39.200
<v Speaker 3>This is brown ship.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, I gotta be up till four in the

1:58:43.120 --> 1:58:50.240
<v Speaker 6>morning to the plastic I'm noting its plastic.

1:58:53.280 --> 1:58:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Ship.

1:58:54.440 --> 1:58:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Ger enjoint. We gotta joint. We gotta joint.

1:58:57.480 --> 1:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Somewhere around here, somewhere around your care rest. I love

1:59:00.640 --> 1:59:03.280
<v Speaker 2>you so much much, man, Thank you so much for

1:59:03.480 --> 1:59:05.240
<v Speaker 2>joining us and being a great sport.

1:59:05.720 --> 1:59:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Took a drink, you even tried to smoke.

1:59:08.160 --> 1:59:15.480
<v Speaker 3>You didn't want to drink.

1:59:15.600 --> 1:59:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Bring you back to the old school. Dude, brother, I'm

1:59:18.720 --> 1:59:21.080
<v Speaker 2>a dude. Pass over there, can pass it over there,

1:59:21.280 --> 1:59:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that's the drink. We gotta take one picture with you

1:59:25.320 --> 1:59:28.480
<v Speaker 2>over there, came green. There's no way I could thank

1:59:28.520 --> 1:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>you ever in my life.

1:59:29.520 --> 1:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm be in your video.

1:59:32.160 --> 1:59:32.680
<v Speaker 3>We have a home.

1:59:32.760 --> 1:59:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Man, I'm being your video, but it's no way I

1:59:34.760 --> 1:59:36.120
<v Speaker 1>can thank you ever in life.

1:59:35.920 --> 1:59:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Because this is this is actually like one of the

1:59:39.880 --> 1:59:41.720
<v Speaker 2>first hip hop albums I ever listened to.

1:59:42.600 --> 1:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>This man right here, one of the first.

1:59:44.840 --> 1:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>People that ever said that I thought about, Like my

1:59:48.520 --> 1:59:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Mom's like what you're.

1:59:49.280 --> 1:59:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Going to be in life? And I was just like,

1:59:51.240 --> 1:59:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I knew I couldn't be a teacher,

1:59:54.560 --> 1:59:55.120
<v Speaker 1>not like you.

1:59:55.440 --> 1:59:58.600
<v Speaker 4>But I am a teacher, but not like you.

1:59:58.840 --> 2:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm a different teacher because I show him a different past.

2:00:02.280 --> 2:00:04.600
<v Speaker 1>But if I've never already heard you, I would have

2:00:04.640 --> 2:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>never wanted to speak. I will never be here.

2:00:07.040 --> 2:00:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Wow, you know what I'm saying. So Hakim Green, you

2:00:09.800 --> 2:00:12.160
<v Speaker 2>know that's my brother. He called me, and when he

2:00:12.320 --> 2:00:14.720
<v Speaker 2>called me, I said, I knew the number, but I

2:00:14.880 --> 2:00:15.440
<v Speaker 2>hit him back.

2:00:15.680 --> 2:00:18.120
<v Speaker 6>You know, I just said a record with hot called

2:00:18.240 --> 2:00:19.760
<v Speaker 6>Madism Sucking.

2:00:19.480 --> 2:00:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Madness, And he got a website. Right, come on, come

2:00:22.560 --> 2:00:26.120
<v Speaker 2>over here, come over here, ahead, hit that money.

2:00:26.320 --> 2:00:26.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

2:00:26.560 --> 2:00:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you shout out your website.

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<v Speaker 9>Green, We got the madism dot org popping off, the

2:00:31.560 --> 2:00:33.560
<v Speaker 9>Ultimate cannabis journal. You know you got to you got

2:00:33.640 --> 2:00:36.360
<v Speaker 9>the Madism popping off internationally. It's big money right now.

2:00:36.400 --> 2:00:38.000
<v Speaker 9>I want to make sure my people get a taste

2:00:38.040 --> 2:00:38.160
<v Speaker 9>of that.

2:00:38.240 --> 2:00:38.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

2:00:38.640 --> 2:00:40.920
<v Speaker 9>So see us off at madism dot org. So you

2:00:40.960 --> 2:00:43.400
<v Speaker 9>can keep up with all the latest grow techniques. You

2:00:43.440 --> 2:00:45.880
<v Speaker 9>know what I mean. Grow When you say grow, listen,

2:00:48.240 --> 2:00:50.880
<v Speaker 9>I'm talking about cannabis. I'm talking about that goodness, that

2:00:51.000 --> 2:00:53.760
<v Speaker 9>chronic that. You know what we do, what we got

2:00:53.800 --> 2:00:56.080
<v Speaker 9>going on? Your casts need to know how to grow

2:00:56.200 --> 2:00:59.040
<v Speaker 9>for themselves. It's not not just about smoking it, but

2:00:59.160 --> 2:01:02.800
<v Speaker 9>industrial head is a multi billion A pipe in the

2:01:02.880 --> 2:01:07.000
<v Speaker 9>mail you got, Yeah, I got the whole. We got

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<v Speaker 9>the hot box.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 9>How we are different ways of you know, the vapor, got,

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<v Speaker 9>the smoke in the leaves, the paper, the blood, whole,

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<v Speaker 9>we got the hot box. It's just a special way

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<v Speaker 9>of inhaling.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. It's real, real good is important.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one more.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye Are you a vegetarian?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you? Yeah? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't eat no fish?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I try to eat.

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<v Speaker 3>I lean toward a vegetarian die, but I do eat fish.

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<v Speaker 3>You eat fish? How about you?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not a vegetarian, right, but I am about my health.

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<v Speaker 9>I do a lot of juicing and I say, you

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<v Speaker 9>keep up with the bartender?

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<v Speaker 3>Were trying? Happy about that? Trying up? Did I drink?

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<v Speaker 4>You're running?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for bugging this saying my brother Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>I called you Chris for the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>In my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I never called you Chris. No, no, what you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's through the records. It's like I never knew

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<v Speaker 1>if I had the ability to call you Chris. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate with.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest sport you actually sat down and drink. I didn't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I was gonna be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>away with it. Shout out to thank you so much everybody.

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