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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something y'all was going on?

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Speaker 2: But he's a legendary Queen's rapper.

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Speaker 3: Is your boy in I E.

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Speaker 4: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is dj

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Speaker 5: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest

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Speaker 5: players in music and sports? You know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: the most professional unprofessional podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is drinks every day is New Year's Eve. Yo,

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Speaker 1: hay hank Segreea. This is your boy in r E.

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Speaker 4: What up this d J E f N?

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Speaker 2: And right now we are blessed with the legendary.

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Speaker 4: Ye blessed, So we gotta we gotta make some noise.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, because the intro was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy right here, like listen, listen, they have

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Speaker 2: the they have the Godfathers, and this man is directly

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Speaker 2: like my father in lyrics, like in in style, and

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Speaker 2: I directly tried to be like this man right here,

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Speaker 2: and I send out the APB try to make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's big up a Hakeem Green off top Channel Channel

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Speaker 2: Live Squark Madism. We love you, Haqeen. But we got

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Speaker 2: the blast Master, we got the teacher, we got the

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Speaker 2: father directly Temple of Hip Hop, all that. The Master,

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Speaker 2: the dude who made it cool to learn in music

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Speaker 2: and still be entertained.

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Speaker 4: You could be smart and you could still Doug Get

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Speaker 4: the fuck out, yo.

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Speaker 2: The other day, I'm gonna be honest, I'm watching Ride

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Speaker 2: Along Too. And at the end of Ride Along Too,

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Speaker 2: my kids they are eight and they are six, and

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Speaker 2: they sung, they said, whoa, whoa, this the son out

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Speaker 1: And at that moment, I knew I was a great father.

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Speaker 2: I knew at that very moment, I was a great

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Speaker 2: father when my kids knew the sign of the police.

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Speaker 2: We have the one and only legendary you can't say

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Speaker 2: hip hop without KRS one in the building. Drake tails Man,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yo, you know what the crazy shi

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Speaker 2: it is. I'm gonna start the interview offs like this.

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Speaker 2: When I was locked up in a juvenile detention center,

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Speaker 2: I had a.

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Speaker 1: CEO who was taking care of me right.

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Speaker 2: He was, you know, holding me down, and he could

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Speaker 2: have snuck me weed, he could have snucked me liquor,

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Speaker 2: he could have snucked me books.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted that criminal minded. This is real ship.

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Speaker 1: This is you know how much of a big KRS fan.

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Speaker 4: That's the track I wanted to do.

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Speaker 3: Is y'all to together that.

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Speaker 2: I'm the biggest kress One fan. Man, Let's just make

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Speaker 2: some noise for him being in the building.

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, cheers, cheers.

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Speaker 1: Yo, yo, we got the fucked up most naked So.

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Speaker 2: Blast master karas One. How does it feel to be

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Speaker 6: Man, don't even know we get into the history of that, right, yo. Man,

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Speaker 6: I've been coming to Miami since what like eighty seven?

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Speaker 6: We were coming up here, man, struggling, trying to be heard,

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Speaker 6: and there was only a few places that actually like

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Speaker 6: embraced us. Philly was always right there. Philly, Philadelphia, just

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Speaker 6: the whole Philly. Is that like we went from New

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Speaker 1: That was let me start.

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Speaker 2: So you think that New York artists is that like

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Speaker 2: the first market? Is that that is for me too?

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Speaker 2: Like Philly was the first? Then Connecticut, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: And see and look how you said that Philly was

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Speaker 6: the next, and then Connecticut. Connecticut is right on top,

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Speaker 6: it first. Philly would hit you first if you did

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Speaker 6: New York in Philly, Connecticut Yonkers all up Boston was

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Speaker 6: trying to see you. Maybe some of the South like that.

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Speaker 6: So going down the I, I and five, man was like,

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Speaker 6: I mean, big up the VA, North Kaka, Lax, South Carolina.

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Speaker 6: It was sort of like a rights of passage. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah you talking about Oh man, see this what MC's

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Speaker 6: You had to do clubs. Let me take you to

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Speaker 6: the nineties. Let's come around ninety two. That's what I'm

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Speaker 6: somewhere around nineties.

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Speaker 3: Right around there, college was just starting. He had a

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Speaker 3: thing called the Temple before that, even before that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Wait wait, actually I got you know who war is.

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Speaker 5: No, he's this guy who interviews people and he brings

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Speaker 1: I okay, this.

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Speaker 4: Is what I got. Show.

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Speaker 1: Let's make some noise tennis ball.

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Speaker 3: That's my autograph too.

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Speaker 1: It's authentic, authentic, So you put that on e BIT.

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Speaker 5: It was a show supposed to be at the spot

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Speaker 5: Cast underground compound and it got shut down by the cops.

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Speaker 4: And we moved it to Zulu headquarters. That's right. There

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Speaker 3: We took the people were faking in the audio. It

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Speaker 4: And he started throwing these balls. That was crazy.

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Speaker 6: That was ninety three four.

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Speaker 4: I was in high schools, like ninety two, ninety three at.

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Speaker 3: The least, at the least, right, well, let's start it

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Speaker 3: right there. That's what was.

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Speaker 1: He been coming to Miami since then.

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Speaker 6: Since then, breaking it down, crushing Miami.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't a hip hop scene out here back then.

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Speaker 6: Well back then, Luke was the man out here. Two

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Speaker 6: Live Crew was straight just straw in the South like

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Speaker 6: was there was nothing else really happening, to be honest

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Speaker 5: But Luke, but there was that divide it for us

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Speaker 6: That's right, there wasn't divide. I mean, it had its

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Speaker 5: Was seen a lot as a New York thing, right,

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Speaker 5: but we were trying to build that identity for ourselves.

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Speaker 6: But I think it was way smaller. But I think

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Speaker 6: Luke Luke that whole sound.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying from the beginning, when Tu Live Coup came,

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Speaker 2: actually you go to Philly. Wait a minute, the second

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Speaker 6: But you have back then the base scene. I'm trying

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Speaker 6: Miami had a base scene that let me come on,

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Speaker 6: that's right, and there were these dudes with.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 6: So Lutha Campbell and Two Live Crew was on top

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Speaker 6: of that. They came up out of that scene. They

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Speaker 6: the the popular ones that that that was doing it,

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Speaker 6: and Luke was just I went to one of these

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe what was going on.

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Speaker 6: And then on top of that, what makes it really

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Speaker 6: rock would be sounding a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: Let's make no noise for that happen. Pick yet out.

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Speaker 2: Even when you roll in the blunt man, stop and

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Speaker 2: clap your hands, all right.

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Speaker 1: You got the blast master in the building, all right, So.

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Speaker 2: You got that, you got that, that that thing, and

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Speaker 2: I want to set up alright, play that, play that

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Speaker 2: real quick.

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Speaker 1: I want to play something for you.

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Speaker 2: One of the one of the greatest calls I ever

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Speaker 2: cool hurt, what's uping brother? That's right, My brother was

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Speaker 2: going on. Man, I just missed your call. Man, Man,

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Speaker 2: I got you on speaker for him right now.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Let them let them dudes know baby, Let them dudes

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Speaker 2: know you the godfather that hip hop cool Hurt, not.

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Speaker 6: Number one.

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Speaker 1: That's right, baby, you the original o G. Yeah, that's right. Baby.

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Speaker 1: You know I love you absolutely, you know I love

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Speaker 1: you to death. Cool work man, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: All right, baby, hold on, I'm gonna take this off

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Speaker 2: of the system and you can speak private.

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Speaker 1: But yo, man, just let the people know one more time.

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Speaker 1: This is my Dyslexia album. Man, tell them niggas.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got an album called Dyslexia, man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you man.

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Speaker 2: This this, this is the godfather, Cool Hurt of the

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Speaker 2: game speaking to y'all, fucking assholes. Cool Hurt right here,

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Speaker 2: the father, not the godfather.

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Speaker 4: Secondary you got father, the father?

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Speaker 2: All right, my brother, hold on, I gonna hit you

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Speaker 2: right back, I Hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 2: So one day I got a call from Cool Hurt, okay, right, which.

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Speaker 1: Is for me. I'm a real hip hop guy. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I respect everything that came before me. And when Cool

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Speaker 2: Hurt called me, I had call him something.

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Speaker 1: I said, you're the godfather of hip hop.

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Speaker 2: And I said it once and he let us lie,

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Speaker 2: and then I said it again and he let us lie.

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Speaker 1: But then the third time I said it, I.

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Speaker 2: Said, Cork, let these motherfuckers know you the godfather of

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Speaker 1: He said, normal, hold on, let me stop you. I

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Speaker 1: am the father. Do you agree with that statement? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with the statement.

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Speaker 6: There's huge debate on it, okay, because everyone wants to

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Speaker 6: take credit for hip hop now for its origins, we called,

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Speaker 6: technically to be scholarly correct, Coolhark is called the recognized

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Speaker 6: father of hip hop, the recognized father of hip hop.

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Speaker 6: We call him the father of hip hop, all right.

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Speaker 6: And the reason we call him the father of hip

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Speaker 6: hop is because Bam called him the father of hip hop.

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Speaker 6: Grandmaster Kaz called him the father of hip hop, Peewee Dance,

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Speaker 6: and Grandmaster Flash from this group called him the father

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Speaker 6: of hip hop. Now, this is a family situation. All

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Speaker 6: these guys, we all know each other and they.

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Speaker 1: But you're their younger homies.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, no doubt, no doubt. Her calls me the

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Speaker 2: Listen, because okay, let me break it down for me,

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Speaker 2: right for me, all right, for me. When I heard

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Speaker 2: that never and then I thought of Bambata as the godfather,

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Speaker 2: Mob Deep the Fat, Joe's the component, Noriega's the mop.

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Speaker 2: We're actually your sons direct like I don't know Pauls.

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Speaker 2: I know New Generation, but you're actually our father, like.

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Speaker 1: You rock him Big Daddy Kane.

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Speaker 2: And so I have to ask this question with that

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Speaker 1: How how is hip hop supposed to respond to the bambada?

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Speaker 1: Like how are we supposed to do that?

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Speaker 3: What you want to take it from?

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Speaker 2: I just don't know. That's why it said generic question,

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Speaker 2: what should we do? Because you being our father? Sure,

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Speaker 2: whatever you say, I have to move accordance to it.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, with the first of all, controversy is

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Speaker 6: want truth? But truth is also not information. It's not gossip.

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Speaker 6: It's not even conversation.

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Speaker 3: For me.

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Speaker 6: If you keep it hip hop, nothing could be taken

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Speaker 3: At all. Just keep it hip hop.

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Speaker 6: But if you want to dig in the dude's personal

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Speaker 3: What what deal with it?

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Speaker 6: That don't stop hip hop, that don't stop, take away

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Speaker 6: with that? That's personal. I don't you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. If you if you know

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Speaker 6: know your man might have an open warrant on them

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Speaker 6: right now, like right now, Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You know I'm not nudging these motherfuckers.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's my nigga right here, Yo. That's it. Now.

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Speaker 6: What you do and your crime and your ship and

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Speaker 6: your bullshit. Whatever you do it, that's on you. That's you,

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Speaker 6: my ge, that's whatever you're doing. That's how I always

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Speaker 6: dude right here, I mean I was producing Justice album.

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Speaker 2: Right, Who's crazy? I heard he came to Queen's Bridge

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Speaker 2: by hisself?

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Speaker 1: Is this story true?

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Speaker 3: Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Let's make some just like every change the subject too.

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Speaker 1: I was the subject. Let's go yeah.

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Speaker 3: But I mean here was on America's Most wanted Is.

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Speaker 1: This is real?

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Speaker 3: This is real hip hop? Shot man.

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Speaker 6: Hip hop is in the world like everybody else, like

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Speaker 3: We in the world.

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Speaker 4: Politicians with dirty.

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Speaker 2: Politicians with bottom line is we we We are humans, humans,

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Speaker 2: We are all humans. But now with that being said, right,

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Speaker 2: what is your favorite EMC battle, Because I mean you

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Speaker 2: don't have to, you can include yourself if you want to.

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Speaker 2: But what is your favorite MC battle?

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Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I mean there's a lot.

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Speaker 6: This this is que that I.

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Speaker 1: Really whichever comes to the top of your head.

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Speaker 6: The first one that comes to my head is Freeway

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Speaker 6: in Cassidy.

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Speaker 2: For me, Let's make some noise knowing what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's going on in the streets.

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Speaker 6: No, No, that that's I mean, it's an old battle.

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Speaker 6: But if you talk about showmanship, you know, instant rhymes

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Speaker 6: on deck right there?

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Speaker 4: That was hot.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I got to ask you about the Drake

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Speaker 1: and meek Mill?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 1: How did you like?

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Speaker 3: Did you like?

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Speaker 1: It? Was it? It isn't your?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Even at twenty battles?

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Speaker 6: I think I think it gave both of them credibility

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Speaker 6: in what way? I well, because for me as an MC,

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Speaker 6: like like when people say top five, Okay, everybody got

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Speaker 6: their top five.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: But if you ain't battle, if you ain't did tours,

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Speaker 6: if you ain't putting no hits out, if you ain't

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Speaker 6: put somebody else on or came from a legacy that

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Speaker 6: was wild, you ain't even nowhere near the top five. So, dudes,

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Speaker 6: is like, I'm looking for young cats today to really

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Speaker 6: rise up to the criteria. First, First, where's your battle?

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Speaker 6: You say, you dope, bring it right now? Because this

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Speaker 6: nigga's like me out here, like straight up, I stay

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Speaker 6: stay hungry. So you claim you hungry, you claim oh yo,

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Speaker 6: I'm the mayor humming this and now today with social media,

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Speaker 6: you could claim anything and everybody. So with Draking males,

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Speaker 6: to me, it gave them the credibility that they needed

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Speaker 6: for even me to get them as real mcs. I

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Speaker 6: like both of these lyrics. By the way, Drake I

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Speaker 2: Now let me I don't I don't want to cut

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Speaker 2: you off, but there's been allegations that he had help

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Speaker 2: on his lyrics.

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Speaker 1: Writers, you, how do you feel?

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious of this look, but because you do

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Speaker 2: come from a day where people were writing Bizmarck lyrics

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Speaker 2: right and biz Mark was upfront about it ice Cube said,

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Speaker 2: he said, ice Cube write the rhymes that I say,

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Speaker 2: and to me, he was one of the most killer there.

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Speaker 2: So how did you feel when you found out that

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Speaker 2: Drake might have had some help.

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Speaker 6: Was that doesn't disturb me at all. It diminishes him

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Speaker 6: in front of those that write their own lyrics. Okay,

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Speaker 6: now those of us just spit the raw from our

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Speaker 6: own heart. You really got to step up and come

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Speaker 6: up to the played on that level. But we're talking

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Speaker 6: about m seeing as a whole art, talk about rap

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Speaker 6: as a whole art. No, if you got a dope

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Speaker 6: writer that can make you sound like something, God ahead

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Speaker 6: and get with dude. The issue is writing. This is

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Speaker 6: the issue writing dope rhymes. I don't give a funk

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Speaker 6: where it comes from.

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Speaker 3: Writer whoever.

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Speaker 6: Some of the dopest dudes and I'm not gonna call

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Speaker 6: no names rhymes.

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Speaker 4: You say, Yo, it's like there's secrets in hip hop.

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Speaker 6: Okay, the dopest dudes and dude right for them, that's

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Speaker 6: not a problem. Now me, I never had the privilege

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Speaker 6: of anyone writing for me. Okay, I you know.

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Speaker 1: You're too smart.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you. Let me tell you. If rock

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Speaker 6: Kim came to me with a rhyme, I just say.

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Speaker 1: That ship this is crazy.

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Speaker 3: I say that this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Ike you listen, Drake sent me to check.

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Speaker 1: I have just said you just saved you.

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Speaker 2: You are that cool and every community y krs has

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Speaker 2: set it on a drink chest podcast.

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Speaker 6: And he's okay, No, I'm okay, look, not real spinners,

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Speaker 6: that right, they rhymes.

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Speaker 4: It'll never be okay with real spinners, it right?

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Speaker 6: They shit Okay, but that's our lane, that's our category.

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Speaker 6: That's a level of excellence that you have to get to. Okay, now,

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Speaker 6: but my issue is, look, here's the opposite. Some dude

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Speaker 6: write your rhymes and they whack and you say them

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Speaker 6: ships anyway. I heard dudes say why rhymes that they

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Speaker 6: ain't even write. That's corny. Okay, But if you got

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Speaker 6: a real shooter with you, dude is right and raw shit.

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Speaker 6: Well make sure he paid the brother. Make sure he

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Speaker 6: gets some credit at some point in your career. Say

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Speaker 6: that ship, say that dope shit. Hip hop needs dope lyrics.

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Speaker 6: We don't need dope MC's understand, we need dope lyrics.

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Speaker 6: We need to write. I don't care where it comes from.

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Speaker 6: Your moms could write you some ship. That ship is

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Speaker 6: don't lyrics.

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Speaker 4: You're saying it's just a vessel.

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Speaker 6: It's just the MC's or the vessel. Look, if you

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Speaker 6: really get down to it, I don't write my own lyrics.

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Speaker 6: God writes my lyrics, goddamn it.

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Speaker 3: So if you.

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Speaker 6: Think about it, none of us are writing our own lyrics.

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Speaker 6: We all any MC that writes his lyrics. You know

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Speaker 6: you're sitting there with the panda patter, whatever your phone,

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Speaker 6: whatever it is, and you hum your ship out.

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Speaker 3: You hear that ship from someplace else. You're like.

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Speaker 1: Criminal mands, so I know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: And DJ don't even start with that.

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Speaker 6: You as producers, you hear the beats before you hit

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Speaker 6: the thing. You know what you're gonna do before you

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Speaker 6: do it. You hum it out, you bang it out,

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Speaker 6: but you hear something. So no one is original, no

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Speaker 6: art is original. We are all being influenced by everything

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Speaker 6: and everyone. The corny motherfucker is the one who doesn't say, yo,

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Speaker 6: my g wrote this. Give it three years, four years.

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Speaker 6: You know you made some success after he got on

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Speaker 6: speaking man, acknowledgement, acknowledge your dude, man, Yo, this is

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Speaker 6: what it is. Hit him with his cash, yo. He

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Speaker 6: know you know he helped you get where You gotta go.

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Speaker 6: Hit him with his cash. Make sure he's good and

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Speaker 6: his family is good. That's respecting hip hop. That's big

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Speaker 6: respect Now in.

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Speaker 2: This day, like a lot of the ogs, they'll sit

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Speaker 2: back and they'll be like, you know, I don't like this,

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Speaker 2: or do you listen to what's going on now?

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Speaker 3: Or no. They had their chance, they're over finished. They

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Speaker 3: had the chances. That ship is over. That ship so

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Speaker 3: fu all that old school, all that shit's done.

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Speaker 1: Ok you do listen to the new school?

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, I listen to everything.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, I listen to everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: I was just with my man La Sunshine. He put

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Speaker 6: a book out. We was just kicking it up in

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Speaker 6: the Bronx. That's my g right there, coum o D

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Speaker 6: that's my G. Busy b No doubt. These are my dogs,

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Speaker 6: no doubt. But let me let me let me see

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Speaker 6: Joey badass right now, let me see you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, like like I don't want

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Speaker 6: to call names, but I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Saying you can.

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Speaker 3: Let me just say.

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Speaker 6: Please please, you know, but no, I listen to everything, man,

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Speaker 6: I just yeah, I just absorb it at all.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate you having that attitude because now I

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Speaker 2: am They call me a og. Now thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 2: You know hip hop was born in what yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hip hop, Well, seventy three is a scholarly seventy three.

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Speaker 1: I was born in seventy seven. So now they calling

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Speaker 1: me a og.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And I want to sit back and I want to

442
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: give back to this life. So we we we're doing

443
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: this podcast. I want to give people like you a

444
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: platform to say whatever the fuck you want to see

445
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: anytime you yeah.

446
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 7: We don't get another drink.

447
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: First off, this has been one of my.

448
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: Uh accomplishments in life. You know, people got bucket lists.

449
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, You've always been a person that.

450
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: I've learned from.

451
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: Like, whether you know it direct or indirect. They ain't

452
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: even asked me to pass the blank. Some foul people,

453
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: but it's okay, I understand from kindle, so I'm not.

454
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: Looking so you directly, you directly. Somebody said to.

455
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: Me the other day, it's that jay Z and Jada

456
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: Kiss raised me with their bars and they fucked me

457
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: up because I was like, damn well.

458
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: Then I always told.

459
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: People, if you take care of as one and then

460
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: you take a little bit of Biz mocky and a

461
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: little bit of granddaddy I you, that's when you get

462
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: in our e.

463
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: But you notice I never took none of your styles.

464
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 2: But I was like, all right, that's that's three totally

465
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: different people.

466
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: But that's who made.

467
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Me because you taught me that black is beautiful and

468
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: be yourself. Biz taught me. Biz taught me life. Ain't

469
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: that serious, homie? How so fucking fun? And then granddaddy

470
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: you told me how to be exact opposite of him

471
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: because he was so smooth, Like I feel like Granddaddy

472
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: You was like.

473
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: The cainge that never I'm gonna take it.

474
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: It's my first interview ever smoking you know, big of

475
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: haw King Green, My brother, my brother. Another legend is

476
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: in the building, spark madism. Let's just get into that, man,

477
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: how did spark madism come about?

478
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: Damn Well?

479
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 6: First of all, Hawk was a was a school teacher.

480
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: No, I never knew that let's make some noise the school.

481
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: What the teacher? Okay, what's the teacher?

482
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 6: So he was one of the many teachers and professors

483
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 6: I was rolling with about ninety three. Hot rolled up

484
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 6: and said, yo, so he kept coming to my lectures.

485
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 6: I was doing lectures around, so he kept coming to

486
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 6: the lectures. So I said, you know, you look like

487
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 6: you were MC. It looked like you know, you get there.

488
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

489
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 6: He was just started that's right, little twists, and I said, Yo,

490
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 6: you look like a MC. He was like, wow, how

491
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 6: did you so make a long story short?

492
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: I heard him.

493
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 6: I loved it, but I said, the solo MC thing

494
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 6: not going to work. We need two people. This is

495
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 6: like Das's effects was hitting nice and smooth. Signed yes

496
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 6: well technically to my wife Jem mad g Simone was

497
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 6: running Front Page Records. Technically Korest was with the label

498
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 6: Channel Live Mad Lion for a minute, even Fat Joe,

499
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 6: But we was closing the label at the closing the

500
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 6: company management company at the time when Joe just started

501
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 6: to blow.

502
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: We was just coming down.

503
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 6: On on on that level, same thing with excuse me,

504
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 6: praz and and no not before they would have oh yeah,

505
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 6: actually the refuge geez it was just prose.

506
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: And we had a chance to sign yes.

507
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 6: We we we We did some of their first shows.

508
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 6: You know, no, no, no, that was not no. We

509
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 6: wasn't in no position whatsoever to deal with them. They

510
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 6: they you could white Cluff used to pull out a

511
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 6: guitar that he still does in the middle of a.

512
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: He still doesn't.

513
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: He just walking out like you know.

514
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 6: We was like, you know what, you got ahead and

515
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 6: uh but but it was dope. So anyway, we got

516
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 6: in the studio and you know, I grew up in

517
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 6: a herb culture, you know what I'm saying. I grew

518
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 6: up in Flatbush, Brooklyn Church Avenue right there and Erasmus

519
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 6: High School, wing Gate High School, shout out.

520
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: The Prospect Park, the whole nine.

521
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: So I grew up there in the seventies when you

522
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 6: were born seventies seventy seven, I was in the parks.

523
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: Memory, we went in Brooklyn and bro you're trying to

524
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: get Brooklyn some process?

525
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 8: Is that?

526
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 3: What's going on?

527
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: Hockey?

528
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: So there we was in Flatbush.

529
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 6: So I grew up in in in herb culture and

530
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 6: not from the point of view like oh, we.

531
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: Just gonna smoke mud.

532
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 6: I was with with Rosters and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

533
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 6: You had the Bible open, dudes was smoking towards the

534
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 6: east chilice burned down room. Every time the childice burned,

535
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: you had to say, yo. We was like in that

536
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 6: culture for real. So it was like I grew up

537
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 6: with like no problem, Like yo, burn the bud Why

538
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 6: is no big deal? What moved up to the bronx

539
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 6: when I became homeless, like around nineteen eighty one or two.

540
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 6: So that story is true, you was, oh, yeah, no

541
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 6: doubt about four years. That's how I met Scott Larad.

542
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 6: Wow he was a social worker in the shelter. But

543
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 6: we'll get back to that, okay.

544
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: Cool.

545
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: So I grew up in the culture.

546
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 6: So for me, Peter Tash since nineteen seventy one was

547
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: yelling for the legalization of marijuana. Since seventy one, everybody

548
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 6: know that. You know, the judges are smoking, the cops smoke.

549
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 6: The doctor's been saying, this is the safest plant. In fact,

550
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: this is the healing of the nation. This right here,

551
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 6: all timers, cancers, you name it.

552
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: Herb is the healing for that.

553
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 6: But now you got this tax issue, and you got

554
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 6: this dude that don't want to give up their power.

555
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: They get more money and more power selling it illegally.

556
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 6: You really don't want the government selling weed. You really

557
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 6: don't want that because the ideas that it's.

558
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: Gonna get whack.

559
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 6: It's like whatever the government put they they can't even

560
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: teach English correctly, Like you know what I'm saying, Like

561
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 6: anything that the government puts his hand in, it starts

562
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 6: to get sterough, it starts to get wag. You don't

563
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 6: have no competition water it down. So dude is like, nah,

564
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 6: we want to grow that shit right there in Mexico,

565
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 6: right there, in Afghanistan right there up and now Colorado, Seattle.

566
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 6: They just went rogue with it and just said, you

567
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: know what, We're just going to do it. And I

568
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 6: think it was done for the kids in the area

569
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 6: because they're not locking their kids up, you know what

570
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

571
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 3: They're not going to do that.

572
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 6: They rather change the laws than see their kids in

573
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 6: the family go through that. That's why I think it

574
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: really got legalized. You could cite medical list or medical that,

575
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 6: but really it's an issue of going to prison. Families

576
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 6: have been ruined by just smoking a joint or having

577
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 6: herb on you. This is a plant that grows in

578
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 6: the world. Like, how is the government like even allowed

579
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 6: to tell you how you should think? Like that's to

580
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: be like like if I smoke butt and I'm like, yeah,

581
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: I feel great on this, Why are you telling me

582
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 6: I don't like the use of the word nigga for instance,

583
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 6: same shit, this is my nigga right there. I know

584
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, nigga, I got three PhDs, nigga, I

585
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 6: write books, nigga. What I know what the fuck I'm saying.

586
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 6: But Nah, black people ain't supposed to think. We're not

587
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: supposed to have governance over our own mouth, over our

588
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: own thinking. So if I tell you, listen when I

589
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 6: say my nigga. I'm talking. I really mean my brother.

590
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: Listen to how I say it, my nigga, that's my

591
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 6: brother right there.

592
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: Now.

593
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 6: I just told you what it is. The problem is

594
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 6: there's no law in the United States made by black

595
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 6: people that white people are bound to respect. Imagine we

596
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 6: follow all their laws. What law they follow of ours?

597
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 6: There's no Latino brother the kings. I said, look, this

598
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 6: is what helps Latino people right here, y'all. We want blacks, whites, everybody.

599
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 6: You're gonna follow our laws. We follow the Constitution, we

600
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 6: follow state ordinances.

601
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: All that's white law.

602
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 6: But here's now the Native American law while we not. Nah,

603
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 6: this country's not built on following anybody else's law except

604
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 6: their own. And when it comes to marijuana, it becomes

605
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 6: an issue of freedom of thought, like this is how

606
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 6: I think. Do you have the right to tell me

607
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 6: what state of mind I should be into? Like, no,

608
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 6: this is the state of mind that I feel I

609
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 6: should be in. And as a matter of fact, the

610
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 6: US Constitution, it's federal law to be happy in the

611
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 6: United States. The pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit

612
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 6: of happiness.

613
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: So if you get happiness, that's illegal.

614
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 6: If you're sad and depressed in the US, you broke

615
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 6: federal law. Wow, you broke federal law. The government should

616
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: be doing the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

617
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: The spirit of it.

618
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: It's all about liberty, justice, freedom, happiness for all. The

619
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 6: pursuit of happiness is law.

620
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change it up real quick.

621
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: Come on, a crazy hip hop story is you went

622
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: to the Palladium and you three PM down off the stage.

623
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: I gotta get this story that makes a noise story.

624
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: You yo, that's really like you. You've been my hero.

625
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: But like it's like that's when I made my choice

626
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: from Malcolm and Martin. It was like Martin, like I

627
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: still think Mario was killing people at night, like when

628
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: he went.

629
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Like I think I still think mar was a shoot up,

630
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: Like I'm.

631
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: Still in my heart, in my heart. But but Malcolm,

632
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Malcolm was like, straight up, I'm gonna shoot you back.

633
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: So when Chris.

634
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: Chris, I'm very I feel like I'm honored to So

635
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: I felt like the minute you threw PM down on stages, like, yes,

636
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: he could teach me and he'll still we.

637
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I wanted.

638
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: That's exactly.

639
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: So what did he do for you to throw him

640
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: off the stage? I never really got that part of

641
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: the story.

642
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: Well, if you want the scholarly approach.

643
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 6: Approach, okay, yeah, yeah, So dude start mouthing off in

644
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 6: Details magazine. Okay, now this is now, this is the

645
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: mood that we're in. Around this time, I think I

646
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 6: forgot what year.

647
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: This was eighty eight? No, no, no, oh no, it

648
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: was ninety two. Ninety two. Okay, it's ninety two, and

649
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: it was.

650
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 6: It the Pladium was No, it wasn't the play It

651
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 6: was a small club in Manhattan. I don't remember that.

652
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 6: It was one of them clubs that had like car wash.

653
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: Was it wasn't.

654
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 6: That wasn't the name of the of the place. That's

655
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 6: just the name of the night, the night right it was.

656
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 6: It sounds fast, so sound factory.

657
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: Okay, wait a minute, Now here's the mood of it.

658
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: Ninety two.

659
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 6: Okay, around this time, this is when, like you said,

660
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 6: knowledge was just hitting hip hop. Hip hop was some

661
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 6: ignorant as. Okay, of course you did have run DMC,

662
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 6: you had Houdini, you had those who are actually rocking

663
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 6: on on a supposedly more intelligent level, especially Run DMC

664
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 6: with it's like that and and all type of records.

665
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: It's going to salute you in the mid interview. Just

666
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: do that, Okay, you know what I'm saying. First off,

667
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: you know the viewers to know caras One is drinking

668
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: of my time and drinking.

669
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: With a drink.

670
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: If you have traveled, you probably don't know what the

671
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: fuck of my tie is. Okay, So this is you got.

672
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: This is a Hawaii drink. I would like to you

673
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: continue to drink. That's how you know.

674
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm making money for long he was in Tahiti

675
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: or something. I mean I'm with this ship.

676
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, thank you for thank you for coming again.

677
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: Thanks opening your door. Okay. So anyway, so anyway, so

678
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: so the mood and nothing.

679
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm gonna get you later though. Look this

680
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 6: this mood this time is when I had just put

681
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 6: out you must learn to stop the violence movement?

682
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: Why is that?

683
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: And then what is what's the door?

684
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 3: And joint?

685
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: What's the joint?

686
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: He got out?

687
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why why did.

688
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: But it wasn't just me.

689
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Well he did say he tested more people. Yes, okay.

690
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 6: In his Details magazine he had said something pertaining to

691
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: the fact he said n w A is nothing. Chuck

692
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 6: d is making mountains out of mole hills, and chaos.

693
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 6: One is chaos. One wants to be a teacher, but

694
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: a teacher of what. And for me it didn't matter

695
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 6: for me, but Chuck at the time was receiving death

696
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 6: threats because of the controversy with Griff. Griffith had the

697
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 6: Jewish comments, griff had made a statement, so Public Enemy

698
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 6: was under real heat in America. Okay, and this dude

699
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 6: just sold like a million records, so I had a

700
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 6: really good year, you know, selling records. So he's just

701
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 6: mouthing off like it's our time now these these.

702
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: Dudes.

703
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: Story about you know, these dudes is over.

704
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 6: N w A, Ain't you nothing, Chuck de Public Enemy

705
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 6: ain't saying nothing.

706
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: Ka arrest this. So I let it go for a minute.

707
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: So this, this was like over months.

708
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 6: This no, no, no, no, this is over a peer and

709
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 6: it wasn't just him. So I had also a little

710
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 6: running with X Clan around the same time. Okay, me

711
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: and ex Clan were going back and forth with with

712
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 6: I mean brother Jay.

713
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: Was you know, calling me Captain human.

714
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: And this that and the other.

715
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 6: Well it wasn't that wasn't directed to us, but it

716
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 6: was them yeah and if and if you're battling me,

717
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 6: then maybe it was wow. So there was ex clam

718
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 6: bam chilled it all out back then was right, okay,

719
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 6: So he cooled.

720
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: It all out.

721
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 6: We had a press conference and just kissed the maid up.

722
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 6: That was into that cool. But there were others dudes

723
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 6: in the hood. They for some reason, they felt people

724
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 6: felt that if you come out advocating.

725
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: Peace, knowledge, wisdom.

726
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 6: I was coming with you somehow we're supposed to be

727
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: soft or somehow, well you're gonna run up or I don't.

728
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: Know what it was.

729
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 6: And I was naive because all my dudes was straight gangsters.

730
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 6: Like I'm talking about. I'm trying to take dudes off

731
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 6: the street. Convince them, yo, we can go on tour. Man,

732
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: you ain't got to do this. You ain't got to

733
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 6: do that. Dudes is like, Yo, if you can show

734
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 6: me another way out of here, we could do this.

735
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to take these dudes and we're trying

736
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 6: to leave the hood. Okay, we're trying to be positive.

737
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: We got to stop the violence.

738
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: Movement is let's get to Okaysha baba.

739
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 6: He just got finished with ex clan with that Lynch

740
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 6: Mob had made a statement ice Cube self destruction, don't

741
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: pay the fucking rent.

742
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: This is after something.

743
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: Something, this is after all, this is what it is.

744
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 8: Him.

745
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna.

746
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna stop the violence.

747
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 6: And so for some reason they thought it was soft

748
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 6: in my corner and.

749
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: So PM doing is not from New York correct, No,

750
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: what is?

751
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was.

752
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: And so I want to know the altercation.

753
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 6: What did you say something to him or just no, no, no, no, no.

754
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: No no, this is what happened.

755
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 6: So he made his allegation, and he made some other

756
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 6: allegation on the radio or something like that about he

757
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 6: was ready to battle or something or some kind of

758
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 6: lyrical something.

759
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: So I was like, great, let's just take it right

760
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: there and leave it there.

761
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 6: You calling my name out? What I got to do

762
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: with you. I'm doing my own thing over here. But

763
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 6: he was riding a wave that was saying that groups

764
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 6: like NWA, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, they bullshit and

765
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: we this shit, right hood dudes, this bullshit, this is

766
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 6: the news shit. And so there was a big party

767
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 6: for Team Money back in the day's tea Money was

768
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: a your MTV raps host with Ed Love and Doctor Trey.

769
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 6: Big party in New York. Everybody in the industry was there,

770
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: which is why we had two chances. He was gonna

771
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 6: play in somewhere. He was gonna play with his own show.

772
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 6: He was gonna either go there or we could go

773
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 6: right here to Manhattan where it was popping. And we said,

774
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: you know what, let's do Manhattan because the industry is there.

775
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: This is Tea Money's birthday party. We said, you know what,

776
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 6: let's set it straight real quick.

777
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: Right there.

778
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 6: A couple of other dudes was in the crowd. They

779
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 6: was called yourko rest ain't shill? What the fun that?

780
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 6: They went in the crowd too. So when I got there,

781
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 6: we were so amped, like we was just so And

782
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 6: when I say we and again, I don't want to

783
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: call no names and put nobody on the line, but

784
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 6: you know, just the color of the story and give

785
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 6: you some background on it. So it was me. There

786
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 6: was justice. Queen Latifa. Latifa had her crew, naughty by nature,

787
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: Naughty had they.

788
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Crew because he did naughty and and and them too and.

789
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: Them two well, no, no, no, they were just there

790
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: with me.

791
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 6: This is the early days of flavoring n this is

792
00:40:50,440 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 6: the early days, early Okay, they all kiddy like, yo,

793
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 6: when do we go?

794
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

795
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: So you set it up? You know. Let me just

796
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: tell you something.

797
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that is a trend

798
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: now when a person has a beef with somebody, they

799
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: booked them for a show, and then when the person

800
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: that come out, they'll do one or two songs and then.

801
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: They bum rush the ship. But you set that trend.

802
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that.

803
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 6: Well, you know what, Yes, I don't know if we

804
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 6: didn't mean to, but you set the trend.

805
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise.

806
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: Look, he so we went up.

807
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 6: It wasn't a setup in the sense that we knew

808
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: we were gonna go there, but we knew we had

809
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 6: two choices and it was like the day before, so

810
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: we chose this one.

811
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: So did you actually talk to him prior to No, No, no,

812
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: you just waited for him to just.

813
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 6: Waited for As a matter of fact, the word had

814
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 6: gotten out because I said, yo, I'm here a battle.

815
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 6: It wasn't about throwing nobody off stage. Listen, I'm still

816
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 6: stopped the violence.

817
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like this, that's why it was a controversy.

818
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 6: So when I jumped up what happened was I think

819
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 6: one of his boys or something. He had a little

820
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 6: crew with him and somebody with him. So when we

821
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 6: jumped on stage, I remember a super Cat. I can't

822
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: even fuck up man super Cat. He said, Chris, let

823
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 6: me go on first month, let me go on first

824
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 6: mine before you do thatt me wan first.

825
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: I was like yo, and Cat went on. He did

826
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: his thing. Then PM doing went on.

827
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 6: We let him get through one song and then we

828
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 6: all jumped on this stage. It's like, yo, let's battle.

829
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 6: Let's get it popping right now. So the whole crowd

830
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 6: was like, oh, let's go. But something happened is man,

831
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 6: somebody jumped out. It was like, fuck that trying to

832
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: do some ship. It was like, yo, fuck that. We

833
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 6: were all shoot this my nigga one and't fuck that

834
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 6: through them niggas off the stage.

835
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: That's what it want. Fuck that, no ship.

836
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: Yoh, Trey AF just did that tow I love Cannon

837
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: in New York, in New York. This is the fact

838
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: I love I love I love my Cannon. I love

839
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: for Troy AF. But when it happened, immediately, now you

840
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: are so I immediately when I seenked it, I said

841
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: this is I don't even think Troy af know that

842
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: this originated from that very moment. Like if you disrespect

843
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: and you come to the person town, you are liable

844
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: to go off the stage and drinks is liable to

845
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: throw at you, and you were allowed to feel uncomfortable.

846
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: But you started that trending and applaud you for that, sir,

847
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: Come on one more time, everybody, being.

848
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: That we're on the topic of self destruction, stopped the violence.

849
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 5: One thing that I've always wondered, why do you think

850
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: that we haven't been able to recreate those movements in

851
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: hip hop? Because when that came out and we're on

852
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 5: the same game came out those records, they were cool to.

853
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: The youth at the time. We love those records. We

854
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: knew the lyrics.

855
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: But see the people I.

856
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: Know you've been doing, You've done, You've continued to do

857
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: those records, but they haven't touched the pulse of the

858
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: youth anymore.

859
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 6: Now hip hop is not conscious, Okay, Like people got

860
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 6: to understand that hip hop it's raw essence. That ship

861
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 6: has got a ghetto. Hip hop is ignorant. Okay, that

862
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 6: ship is I'm that and it's core. That ship is

863
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 6: raw ignorance, man, just straight up. But all the best

864
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 6: things come out of that shit. Okay, the darkness. That's

865
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 6: where the best ship comes from. Out of this ship. Look,

866
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 6: it takes feces to make things grow. All we eating

867
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: is ship.

868
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 8: You know.

869
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: It is the most honest.

870
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 6: So that's why I say, go back to the movement

871
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 6: when we did those records, stop the violence and self destruction.

872
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 6: Look at the dudes that were doing them. Those were

873
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 6: street du That's why we love Okay, that's why right.

874
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: But now all them dudes got shot up and went

875
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 6: to jail. Nobody there's no one else, Like maybe some

876
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 6: younger kids today or maybe some of the younger artists today,

877
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 6: if they care about their community.

878
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: When we were coming up.

879
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 6: With gangs and excuse me and cruise and stuff like that,

880
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 6: we cared about the community still, Like we would still

881
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 6: smack a young kid up and be like, Yo, you

882
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 6: better go to school, motherfucker. I know your moms. You

883
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. You would still get gangs like that.

884
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 6: Today it's too individualistic. Even dude to a real gangsters,

885
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 6: they not really in the hood. They do they gangster

886
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 6: on the phone. They they pushing they thing through on

887
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 6: different mediums. Now, we didn't have none of this shit

888
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 6: when we was coming up.

889
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to cut you off, but you know what

890
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: the crazy shit is. I just thought about it, like

891
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: you know hip hop. We got our own little version

892
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: of chitpling circuit, like where you go. So back then

893
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: in the nineties, I'll say in ninety seven ninety eight,

894
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: I had to go to Virginia. I had to go

895
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: to North Carolina, and when the dude told me, yo,

896
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: I run the block, I had the choices. It was

897
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds, not fifteen seconds on the internet, but it's

898
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds that I had to say I believe him

899
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: or I fucking don't. Right, we didn't have Instagram like

900
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: right now, dude, we were like, yo, I run the town.

901
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Check my Instagram. Check them that shit don't fucking register

902
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: with me.

903
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, cause they don't have

904
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: a picture with like you know, whoever's the popper popular

905
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: people at the time.

906
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: But back then in the nineties, I had to go

907
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: to a.

908
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: Town and I had to make a decision in fifteen seconds.

909
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 2: When the dude caught me in foot locker and said,

910
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: you're Norri I run the town. Fuck with me and

911
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: I had to study with you.

912
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 4: To do.

913
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes these guy's lying, they're good, but a lot of

914
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: the times they're official.

915
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: You don't have time to go look at and nowadays

916
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: and google them.

917
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: When I go to a.

918
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: Town now they'll be like, yo, go get with such

919
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: and such, and I gotta look at this guy's Instagram.

920
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: But it was real and and your generations before mines.

921
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: So how was that like? Just traveling the US back then?

922
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 6: You had to know people, man, you had to really know.

923
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: Like what you just said right there brought me back

924
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 6: to like, Okay, tell your story, Ice Tea, Okay, this

925
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: is way.

926
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: Back big of Ice Tea coming on the show.

927
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 6: A shout out to Icy and Coco. This goes back

928
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 6: to Darlen. Okay, this is first wife on the cover

929
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 6: of Okay, Ice Tea, this is the realest dude ever.

930
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

931
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what y'all know about TV and well

932
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 6: I don't know what that ship is. Okay, But in

933
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 6: the eighties Ron Syndicate in l a OA, you had

934
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 6: to know these dudes or you wasn't playing.

935
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: You said you couldn't even go to you couldn't even play.

936
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: You couldn't even play date.

937
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 6: Today you can book shows, you know, live national book.

938
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: Couldn't ran in the hood. This ship is all good.

939
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 6: No, back then, it was only dudes that were hustling

940
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 6: that was booking rappers. So it was like you know,

941
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 6: and and and it wasn't never no shit, it was not.

942
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 6: It was actually the time. We always having a good time.

943
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 6: It's like we've left.

944
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: All the guns, all the product that shit, leave that

945
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: ship down.

946
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 6: Let's just go to Latin Quarters and have a good

947
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 6: fucking time. Car Let's just go down to you know,

948
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 6: the rooftop or or whatever feeve or whatever. Everybody just

949
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 6: was like that. Everybody left their shit in the car.

950
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 6: If there was any beef in the cub. You'd see

951
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: dudes running outside today ride and that the ship would

952
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 6: pop off in the parking lot. But we had to

953
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 6: know people. You couldn't just be a rap. There were

954
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 6: so many rappers that were dope on the mic and

955
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 6: even had hit records, but they couldn't tour, They couldn't travel,

956
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 6: you know, because back then people were still getting robbed

957
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 6: for they change just the.

958
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: Idea of wearing the gold chain.

959
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 6: Well you know what I'm saying, you know, but look

960
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 6: I tell you this on YouTube though now.

961
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: And it's for YouTube.

962
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: It's for YouTube now.

963
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 6: You know MC search, you know far right, the third base.

964
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 6: These were the only white dudes ever ever to walk

965
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 6: in Latin Quarters with big gold on.

966
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: Latin Quarters, the original Latin Quarters, because I went to

967
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: stream Broadway on ninety six in Broadway, the original quarters.

968
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 6: Was on forty eight Street and Broadway, across the street

969
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: from Popeye's Chicken. We used to eat that bullshit and

970
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 6: go across the street and tear that ship down. Nothing

971
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 6: but hustlers in there. And if your rhymes was whack,

972
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 6: you did not make it out like you without insults

973
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 6: or sneaking scheming on you, or like you had to

974
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 6: have security walk you out like you. You know what

975
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I took pride in that ship. I

976
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 6: was like, fuck niggas, man, I'm getting this shit in

977
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 6: right now. And they just loved, they loved my whole shit.

978
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: And the point was was that we were spitting conscious shit.

979
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 6: We called the reality rap yo, man, Fuck these cops,

980
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 6: this court, this shit we were going through. Fuck the DA.

981
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 6: These motherfuckers are corrupt. Let's talk about the government. That

982
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 6: shit became conscious rap. All of a sudden in the nineties,

983
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 6: the title switched right and now, all of a sudden,

984
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 6: we were supposed to play this role of being conscious

985
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 6: rappers who didn't fight or argue and this shit, and

986
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 6: it was like, I never rested. I'm wrestled. I never

987
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 6: settled this in my own career, you know me. I

988
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: consider myself a god man straight up. I'm all about peace.

989
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 6: But this world the minute you say you standing up

990
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 6: for justice and wisdom, these dudes want to try to

991
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 6: see you. And I love shit like that. I'm like,

992
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 6: I'm God's like worst. I'm said here to make you

993
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 6: think like, yo, that's that. You know we can get

994
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 6: that dude right there, I'm like.

995
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: You and ship changes in the dark.

996
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 6: Come on, follow me down here, Yeah, and then see

997
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 6: the skirt of wearing the skirt, come on, tell you, come.

998
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: On, that's where I want to go.

999
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: How did the b start with Shan a Regular? Was

1000
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: it the record or was it something on the side.

1001
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: I have to notice for my own because you're my

1002
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: favorite rapper.

1003
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know that we wanted to

1004
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: be down with hated you when you did the Bridges.

1005
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: I's got to be clear with you let me tell

1006
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: you something.

1007
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 4: You mean, any any killers and Queens.

1008
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: You made them, because I'm gonna tell you because you

1009
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: said we didn't. That's horrible, horrible, it's a great, it's

1010
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: a great, horrible thing, because you know why we had

1011
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: on records. Island at that time was the toughest place.

1012
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it was the hard chorus place to go.

1013
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: And if you was from Queens, you would just.

1014
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: Walk by and people would be like Queens, right. And

1015
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know if you started this,

1016
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: but you said I didn't hear a peak from a

1017
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: place called Queens, And we had to fight every each

1018
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: neow y'all nigga, every bra snaker. For niggas to be

1019
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 2: like Queens niggas is a fish like he just took

1020
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: out Shan. He didn't, damn, I wrote it that wrong,

1021
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: and she shanned, don't don't, don't blow me up, listen.

1022
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just being.

1023
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 3: Honest, no doubt.

1024
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: And at that time.

1025
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: You changed the face of hip hop because you single handedly.

1026
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: So I don't need to know how did this start?

1027
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: Was it beef with Marley? Was it beef with Shan?

1028
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: Was this this rock pum a sneaker?

1029
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: What was it, Chris, to make you go off like that?

1030
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: First off, we and queens didn't know it was a

1031
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: South bron We didn't know it was a North bron

1032
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: We just though it was the Bronx. So when all right,

1033
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: so I need to know this, this is from my

1034
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: own history.

1035
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: How did they start?

1036
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: Rest in Peace to mister Magic? Let me start right.

1037
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 6: Smoke right now, come on, man, come on, Rest in

1038
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 6: Peace to mister Magic. Okay, straight up. Now that's who

1039
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 6: started it.

1040
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: He started its magic, mister match.

1041
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 6: Rest in Peace. We wanted to be down with the

1042
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: Juice Crew. Let's start right there.

1043
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: So and this is Molly Ma, this is Magic, Okay,

1044
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: Magic and Molly.

1045
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 6: Magic was the first of all. There was another Juice

1046
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 6: Crew before matching. Let's name the original, the original Juice Crew.

1047
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 3: I was first.

1048
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 6: I don't know all of them. I think email Caz, Yeah,

1049
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 6: this is Juice Crew. Juice Crew out a disco fever.

1050
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 6: They the original Juice Crew. Magic was part of that crew, okay,

1051
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 6: So he kind of took the name. And the second

1052
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 6: generation came up, which was us, and so he named

1053
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: his crew the Juice Crew.

1054
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 3: But he is the only one with the ring.

1055
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 6: It was rings it was like thirteen rings that were

1056
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 6: given out for this Juice Crew, so hering one of his.

1057
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: He was one of these dudes with the ring.

1058
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 6: So he named the things Juice Crup with his man

1059
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 6: fly tie as well. Tyers was big, you know, with

1060
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 6: promotion and marketing, so the idea was battles were huge

1061
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 6: on the street anyway. If he was an MC, he

1062
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 6: was always battling your man. He was always in a

1063
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 6: cipher spitting shit. So that's what it was. But none

1064
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 6: of that was ever reflected in mainstream media and rap

1065
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 6: whatever run DMC. They was crushing shit, but they were

1066
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 6: still you know, wrapping. They were still like performers, you know.

1067
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 6: They It never was really what it was on the

1068
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 6: street level. So we went to Magic. We wanted to

1069
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 6: be part of the Juice Cree. We wanted to be

1070
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 6: produced by Mally mal Okay. But Magic was the Juice Crew.

1071
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 6: He's the one that put everybody down. So Rox Sane

1072
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 6: Chante just came off of a battle with UTFO Nice Battle.

1073
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: All these rock Sands came out of that battle.

1074
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: Big little Sister Fast team. While I went to school,

1075
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: Wow continued.

1076
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: Rock Sanshani came out UTFO Nice Battle so mc shan

1077
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 6: came out and dissed LL called him a beat vida

1078
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 6: because the word on the street was the LL bit,

1079
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 6: his stop, the kango Dadidas, the step pumas and the

1080
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: track suit, and in a way it looked just like

1081
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: L from the early days. If you look at early LL,

1082
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 6: it was some kind of similarity. So LLL was mad

1083
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: about that, I guess, and started going out. I'm not Ell,

1084
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Shan was mad at that and started going

1085
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 6: after LLLLLL never answered.

1086
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 4: Him, but I did.

1087
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 6: Because Magic took our demo. So the story goes, an

1088
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 6: engineer told us this we handed in. Our record was

1089
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 6: two records criminal Minded in elementary, oh and a record

1090
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 6: called Advance three records. We have got to advance three records.

1091
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 6: We gave it to him, they said, Magic said this

1092
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 6: is corny. No, we're not doing it, and supposedly flung

1093
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 6: it in the in the garbage. This is an engineer

1094
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 6: telling us. First of all, we couldn't even talk to Magic. Okay,

1095
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 6: he was not huge, Okay, security he was the man. Okay,

1096
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 6: we couldn't even see. We handed out. We handed dude

1097
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 6: the CD, threw somebody through somebody through somebody and the

1098
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 6: word got back, Yo, wack.

1099
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Get a body here.

1100
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 8: Wow.

1101
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 6: So mind you. I'm a homeless in the street. I'm

1102
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 6: riding the train back and forth to D train. Scott

1103
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 6: land Rock is a social worker at the shelter. I

1104
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 6: get to you know, sometimes I'm at the shelter. Sometimes

1105
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 6: I'm not me and Justice was in the shelter together.

1106
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 6: So some nice we hang out all night. Some nights

1107
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 6: we get up a Scott. I had to go to

1108
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 6: work every day and worked there at that shelter. So

1109
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 6: we got back and Scott was like, yo, they said

1110
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 6: it was wat my g I was like, yo, why

1111
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: Shan is whack? How much my shit ain't whack? Wa.

1112
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 6: So I'm twenty, you know what I'm saying, twenty one twenty,

1113
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 6: I'm cocky, I'm arrogant. I'm already known in the Bronx.

1114
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 6: I'm a graffiti writer really named kr Rest and I'm

1115
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 6: writing on the six train and the five to two

1116
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 6: and the five we hitting the bus yards Ford and

1117
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 6: Rod bus yards. So I'm already on my shit in

1118
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 6: the graffiti world. And I was graffiti.

1119
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there.

1120
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 6: I was on my ship bombing buses and trains, and

1121
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 6: we were trying to get into the rap deal, hopefully

1122
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 6: to get some money and get out the hood. They said,

1123
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 6: you whack, So I wrote I was. I wrote the

1124
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 6: Bridges Over first, before the south Brook, before the south Bronx.

1125
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 6: I wrote the Bridges Over because that was more my ship.

1126
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 6: I was on some reggae ship. So I was like, yo,

1127
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 6: I used to listen to shine Head. Actually was my inspiration,

1128
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 6: shine Hand. I used to listen to shine Hand. Michigan

1129
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 6: is Smiley yellow Man, Lieutenant Stitchy.

1130
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: Major Macronesia Man. I just go on.

1131
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: I used to blast all that.

1132
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 6: So he was like, see what are you doing this? Okay,

1133
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 6: So so it's like so I'm listening to all that.

1134
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 6: But Scott was like, First of all, Scott started to

1135
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: get down in his spirit because he had already shopped

1136
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 6: our music to everybody, and they all turned us down.

1137
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 6: They said it was too educated, too preachy. You don't

1138
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 6: sound like the rappers out here because we were talking

1139
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 6: about nuclear.

1140
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: Wall, the government this kind of thing. Was like, nah, rap, don't.

1141
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: Need I know about Illuminati because you I'm just so

1142
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: we were eighty four.

1143
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 6: I'm just telling you that anyway. So we was like,

1144
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 6: you know, nobody was gonna sign this. No one wanted us.

1145
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 6: So I was like, you know what, fuck it? I

1146
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 6: wrote the Bridges over. I said it to Scott. Scott

1147
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 6: was like, nah, man, because nobody's gonna gonna play that

1148
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 6: reggae ship. Nobody want to hear that ship. They want

1149
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 6: to hear like run DMC and this.

1150
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: So you're telling me the Bridges over was wrote before

1151
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: Shan actually dropped the bridge or no bridge out.

1152
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 6: No, the bridge was out, and I wrote the bridges over.

1153
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: All right, So now let me just tell you this

1154
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: is where you also crushed my dreams as a child.

1155
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 7: Fair as I read this, hip hop thought it out

1156
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 7: the job, I thought, even to the.

1157
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: Two, I'm a child, all right, I born in nineteen

1158
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: seventy seven, right, what what year did Shan.

1159
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: Drop that record?

1160
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: That was like eighty six eighty six?

1161
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: So technically how old are if?

1162
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 6: Nine?

1163
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 4: Like ten? Nine years old?

1164
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: Nine?

1165
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 4: So I believe she as a nine year old?

1166
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: Well I don't.

1167
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: I've never been in Lebron.

1168
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: But wait a minute, here's the real of it.

1169
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we both were wrong. Okay, wait, wait me and

1170
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: you or meet you and Shane, me and Shan. Okay,

1171
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: tell them.

1172
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 6: He said, you love to hear the story again and

1173
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 6: again how it all got started way back when the

1174
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 6: monument is right in your face.

1175
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: Sit and listen for a while. For the name of

1176
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: the place, the bridge. Okay, that caused the battle, that's what.

1177
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: Because you knew hip hop originated.

1178
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: I was going to one twenty three park watching BAM right,

1179
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: so now we as as as as we go. So

1180
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: it was that line that made you, well, no, it's magic,

1181
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: said we was garbage that made us fery. Combined with

1182
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: that line, well, that line was the excuse. But magic

1183
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: wasn't from Queen's Bridge.

1184
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 6: No magic is from magic. He's from Brooklyn.

1185
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: I think from Brooklyn. From Brooklyn. No, but but you

1186
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: hear this record and it bothers you.

1187
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 6: Why Well, first of all, magic justic us and and

1188
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 6: basically was hopping on the fact that his number one

1189
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 6: MC was this dude right here, mc shan.

1190
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: So being from the Bronx, hungry, broke poor.

1191
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 6: With nothing, we said, you know what, that's food right there,

1192
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 6: Let's go get him.

1193
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: This is crazy and so food.

1194
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 6: We said, yo, we wrote up. I wrote the bridges

1195
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: over first. Got didn't like it, said, no, nobody's listening. No,

1196
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 6: reggae ship. If you really want to go at dude,

1197
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 6: come with some ship.

1198
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: So the original Bridge is Over was a reggae Yeah.

1199
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: Okay, it was super Cat books boom boom boom boom

1200
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 3: boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.

1201
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 6: Big up the super Cat for that right, supercant a

1202
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: little left right for a little while. No O, that

1203
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 6: was I was all in the super Cat right there.

1204
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,479
Speaker 6: And he had a record called said Bop Staying said

1205
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 6: go on and get him up, hey, say bo standing

1206
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 6: the boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

1207
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 6: boom boom boom. I was like, yes, put that to

1208
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 6: some boom back the same ship we used to do

1209
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 6: in the in the in the shelter, we used to

1210
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 6: hit the bathroom.

1211
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: He didn't like that.

1212
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: So then what happened?

1213
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 6: You went back and he put on this record, goes, hey,

1214
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 6: bro I got that good cheap a cheever boom boom

1215
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 6: boom boom, Hey bro I got that good cheeper Chief.

1216
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 6: You have to keep cutting that far out, So Scott's

1217
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 6: cutting that ship. I was like, way back in the

1218
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 6: days when hip hop began with coke LaRock wol Hurrican

1219
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 6: damn bam people. The Scott was like, oh yo, you

1220
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: need to come with that next like three days later

1221
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 6: he got his check.

1222
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: We went to the studio.

1223
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 6: It was fifty dollars, twenty five dollars an hour and

1224
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 6: you get an acetate at the answer was a bargain,

1225
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 6: like the acetate was twenty five dollars, but they said

1226
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 6: twenty five dollars and the acetate two hour minimum. We

1227
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 6: spent fifty dollars. We made a four track. We did

1228
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 6: South Bronx and the PS three the same day, two hours,

1229
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 6: one day, Bridges No no, No, South Bronx and the PS

1230
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 6: free the original with d Knights on the beach.

1231
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: And we got a dumb played out of it.

1232
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 6: So we took that down to Latin Quarters and Raoul

1233
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 6: was playing Red Alert wasn't even on yet.

1234
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 3: There's a dude named Raoul.

1235
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: There was bigger Raoul. That is side bar owner.

1236
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: Right rose Ma Hoomie.

1237
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: Shout out the sidebar, shout out the sidebar.

1238
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: What's the older people?

1239
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: Is this mingo?

1240
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: Because I stopped, no, no, no no, because I just

1241
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: figured Raoul, so continue this story.

1242
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: We gave him. We gave nasty take We gave him

1243
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: the dumb player. He put the ship on. From the

1244
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: second that ship came on Bridges No, the South, Bronx

1245
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 3: the South.

1246
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: He said, Queens Break.

1247
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 6: After Queens Queensbridge is a huge hit record. I should

1248
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 6: play on the radio every day, thro the ship on

1249
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 6: the club, dudes.

1250
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: Is we were very proud. How long do we have?

1251
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: How long do we have? How long queens were we?

1252
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: It was about a month. It was about a month.

1253
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: Only had a month taken We had six months? No, no, no,

1254
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: that was right, give us two months even.

1255
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: It was like to two months. It was on the radio.

1256
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 3: It was like one month.

1257
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 6: The ship was he was in the club already and

1258
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 6: then came back.

1259
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: No, then Shan came back.

1260
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, let's not skip.

1261
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So we only had a month where it was

1262
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: okay to be from Queensbridge, left Frack forty projects and then.

1263
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 6: No, wait a minute, rephrase the question. No, you guys

1264
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: had like three left. You had like three four years.

1265
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because when see when when run DMC came

1266
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 6: out and ll and then Shante.

1267
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: You was cool with them.

1268
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm cool with all of that.

1269
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 6: So why did you and sh Wait a minute, no, lyrically,

1270
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 6: I wasn't I got it lyrically, I wasn't see.

1271
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 3: This was the time.

1272
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 6: This was a time where you had to prove Run

1273
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 6: DMC said an amazing lyric. I think it was DMC,

1274
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 6: he said. Other rappers can't stand us, but give us respect.

1275
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 6: That sums up the whole.

1276
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: Eighties with Do you feel like Run DMC was like

1277
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: a pop group to you? Bet?

1278
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it was nothing pop about Run DMC.

1279
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 6: No them know fuckers was straight hood? Okay, Jam asked,

1280
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 6: did Jay okay? Okay? Okay? J was hood hood? Okay okay?

1281
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 6: Now Run and d they were straight hood as well.

1282
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 6: They came from different other parts of Queens, right, but

1283
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 6: queens the whole of Queen's hood.

1284
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

1285
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 6: So it was like Run DMC was just kings like

1286
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 6: they was just it and and you always took a

1287
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 6: shot at those who was on the top if you

1288
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: was the little guy on the bottom.

1289
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: That that's what it was.

1290
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 6: It was like even rock sand Chante had a line

1291
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 6: where I met Run and I met d MC, and

1292
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 6: I said so and it was like one of hadopas,

1293
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 6: like one of her lines and she had put it.

1294
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 6: But that was the attitude like you ain't lodge. You

1295
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 6: ain't you know even though you are and you the man.

1296
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this question.

1297
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 2: When he's said hip hop started out in the dark,

1298
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: was was that something that.

1299
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: Directly bothered you because you knew the truth?

1300
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 6: Scholarly? Yes, but I didn't know the truth. I thought

1301
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 6: I knew the truth. See this is young arrogance. I'm

1302
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 6: hanging out in the Bronx, North Bronx, South Bronx, East

1303
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 6: West Bronx. I'm the whole Bronx Gunhill Road to Milburgh Projects.

1304
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay, whole Bronx.

1305
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 6: First, I'm a graph writer, so I walked the entire Bronx.

1306
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 6: My name is Okay, I'm the whole Bronx. Okay, So

1307
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 6: I'm running in the parties. Dudes, you know we know ship.

1308
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: You didn't hear.

1309
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 3: I didn't hear Queen, No we did. We used to

1310
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 3: go to Queens. Queens had the dopest party.

1311
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 7: But so you did hear people, no doubt. Let's Queen's

1312
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 7: no what it was no childhood.

1313
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 3: Let me say this say this.

1314
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 6: My wife is from Queen's Okay, Queen, no, no, no, no,

1315
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 6: that's the queen right.

1316
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: Your wife Jasmine in the building queens, Queens.

1317
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna big you up.

1318
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, big up your wife.

1319
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: He's looking for queen.

1320
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm looking for my queens. Saint Albans, Sane Orbans.

1321
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about. Man, Niggas don't respect

1322
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: this part. The nigga that married a woman. Let's leave

1323
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: this because listen, on the island, people used to be

1324
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: like queens, like you started something. So niggas from queens

1325
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 2: at that time on the island spit out raises and

1326
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 2: buck fifties. You might have originated buck fifties.

1327
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that. I don't know

1328
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: if you knew that. But because queens, he.

1329
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 3: Was like everything.

1330
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: I do, I do, Master, you don't care, this is

1331
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 1: this is he's.

1332
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 3: Like my father, like I mean, and you blame your

1333
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: father for everything, don't we all?

1334
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1335
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: Don't we all?

1336
01:08:59,080 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1337
01:08:59,360 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: Don't we all?

1338
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 8: So?

1339
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: All right?

1340
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 1: So when you heard hip hop started out an adult,

1341
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: you knew that.

1342
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,919
Speaker 6: You knew that it didn't No, I knew Cool Heirk existed,

1343
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 6: I knew Bam, I knew Flash she existed. I didn't

1344
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 6: know them, but their names were in the hood crazy,

1345
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 6: so you knew was froning. Yeah, basically, well I.

1346
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: Knew he didn't know. I don't even know if he

1347
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 3: was frighting.

1348
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 6: It's just that one of queens we go because we

1349
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 6: seen that and he wrote about what he saw from

1350
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 6: his perspective, and so I put out the record South

1351
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 6: Bronx and today it's to be scholarly correct. Hip hop

1352
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 6: started in the West Bronx. It never started in the South.

1353
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,839
Speaker 6: See that was my next question. This it's the Westbrooks

1354
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 6: cool Heart fifteen twenty Sadgwick Avenue, the Bronx. Okay, that's

1355
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 6: West Bronx. But we were so ghetto ignorant and gas

1356
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 6: to get on a record we South Bronx, South South

1357
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,480
Speaker 6: Bronx because that was one of my other history books.

1358
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 2: Was with people from the other part of the Bronx

1359
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: where they still chair oh yeah, oh yeah.

1360
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: Everybody North Bronx, East West was all from the South.

1361
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: Because even now, like when Biggie you hear you hear yeah, Biggie,

1362
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 2: or you hear nahs.

1363
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: So nobody shout out the Bronx. They never say the Bronx,

1364
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: they say the South Bronx.

1365
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: And I always wondered with people from the other side, well,

1366
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 2: they offended by that. It's like Biggie shout it out

1367
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: on one record when God bless it that.

1368
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: Obviously, when Big was alive, he was like.

1369
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: Yo, I shout it out queens Bridge, and I was like,

1370
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm from Left Frack, Like I don't really get that,

1371
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: Like you're not shout out the whole Queens when you

1372
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: shout out queens Bridge. Queensbridge is a ninety six building

1373
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: that you come over Manhattan and that's just that section.

1374
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: But people that's right next door to it, ravers would

1375
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: the story of they don't recognize queens Bridge.

1376
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: We understand what you mean by shouting out Queensbridge and

1377
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: thinking it's.

1378
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: The whole Queens, but it's really not.

1379
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: So I always wanted it was that the opposite when

1380
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: you said South Bronx.

1381
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,839
Speaker 1: Was people in the West brook.

1382
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: The Bronx took it differently because the Bronx wasn't on

1383
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 3: the map. Brooklyn was on the map.

1384
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is still on the map, and well there it

1385
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: is Brooklyn. Rules You could be du Journey and you

1386
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: say you're Brooklyn in the house.

1387
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: It was like the fuck Brooklyn washere?

1388
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: Okay, there was nobody was There was a record called

1389
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 3: Gold Brooklyn.

1390
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 6: I think that's sonics still might mister, somebody go Brooklyn,

1391
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 6: Gold Brooklyn.

1392
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 3: That was it. That that was the club anthem. That's

1393
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: what we did. That's what it was.

1394
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 6: So when I came to South Bronx, that's where I

1395
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 6: want to go. That's where the Bronx was on the map.

1396
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 6: And then I mentioned dudes that were heavy in the Bronx,

1397
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 6: you know, Nine Lives Crew, Cyprus Boys, real rock.

1398
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is after you drop the

1399
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: South Bronx, shan drop kill that noise, that's what made

1400
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: you drop Bridges over.

1401
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh this is terrible. Bridges never was horrible. First

1402
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: of all, I would have been over it was horrible.

1403
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: This is terrible.

1404
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,560
Speaker 6: Actually, you know what you know, let me tell you.

1405
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 6: When kill that Noise came out, it.

1406
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 3: Was a hit.

1407
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 4: Was it was a hit.

1408
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 3: First of all, that beat think of the Casey Sunshine

1409
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: band beat. That was easy. Biggy even used it again,

1410
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: no way, he used it.

1411
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 6: That the don't don't jun't the jun't junk junk and

1412
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 6: don't don't jun't don't jun't yun't don't don't.

1413
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 3: That that that that was the Casey in the Sunshine

1414
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: when he dow that on.

1415
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: It was hot. It was like, oh he came back.

1416
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 6: It wasn't it wasn't whacked until the bridge is over

1417
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 6: came out.

1418
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: My feelings. But I need to know how this happens.

1419
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: I need to know, like, because you're my favorite artist

1420
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: at the time.

1421
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm a child.

1422
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: And you broke my dreams.

1423
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,440
Speaker 3: With murder people.

1424
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: All around the boy my whole life.

1425
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 4: It's good's.

1426
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: He's my god. So how did this session did? How

1427
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: did how did it?

1428
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: Because you said you originally recorded original version it was

1429
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: a reggae version.

1430
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I never recorded it. Oh, I just

1431
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: said it in Scott's living room.

1432
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: As Scott said no, he said no, wow, So you

1433
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: did the South Bronx. So I did the South Bronx

1434
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: and Killis came out and did Now you.

1435
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 6: Know, Scott got on the reggae when he heard the

1436
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 6: ps free when I did South Bronx and then the

1437
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 6: ps free on the other side.

1438
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1439
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 6: When we used to do that in the club. That

1440
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 6: was the rock that that was the wreck is. So

1441
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 6: Scott was like, what's up this reggae?

1442
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: Should like what?

1443
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: He started getting me now he was on it. But

1444
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 6: then Shan answered us would kill that noise. If you

1445
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 6: knew what I knew, you'd kill that noise. And the

1446
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 6: record was hot for its time, and so we was like,

1447
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 6: you know what, we got this joint right here. And

1448
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 6: Scott didn't even recorded, no, it was all my record.

1449
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 6: Scott never recorded the bridges over, he never even well,

1450
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 6: he came for the mix of the second one. But

1451
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 6: when when when Shan put out his record, I went

1452
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 6: back to said G from Ultra Magnetic, who was doing

1453
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 6: our beats, and he said, actually was sampling. He was

1454
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 6: he had to sp twelve. So I asked him, Yo,

1455
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 6: give me some drums. I'm gonna go in the studio

1456
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 6: up the block from Latin Quarters. I found some little

1457
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 6: rinkyding studio like two blocks up, and I said, yo,

1458
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 6: Shan came out with this joint. I'm coming back. Went

1459
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 6: in there and I produced the whole record. I took

1460
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 6: said G's drums.

1461
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 3: Boom boom back bat, boom bat, boom boom bat.

1462
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 6: That's the same beat we did on the bathroom wall

1463
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 6: and the shelter boom boom back back boom bat, and dudes,

1464
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 6: just get it in. That was just the standard beat.

1465
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 6: So we did that, put the super cat to it.

1466
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 6: Boom boom boom ba boom boom. I played the piano

1467
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 6: one take one time you listen to the instrumental.

1468
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 4: That's the sloppiest playing ever.

1469
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 6: As error's mistakes, all types of shit, but no one

1470
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 6: heard all that put my lyric down. The Bridge is over.

1471
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 6: I did that shit strictly for Brooklyn, straight up Bronx,

1472
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 6: South Bronx. That was straight up Gunhill Road, straight up

1473
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 6: west Chester, Jerome Brand concourse, that would that this one.

1474
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 6: We said, Yo, this is what Brooklyn is on right now,

1475
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 6: and nobody knows it.

1476
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: Nobody.

1477
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 6: Nobody goes to the jams like well, actually what it's

1478
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 6: called the donzie the dance all they don't go to that.

1479
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 3: We be it.

1480
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 6: We was up in it with Stone Love and GT

1481
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 6: International and all of that. So when he was talking

1482
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 6: about battle, he was like, Yo, were gonna battle the

1483
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,839
Speaker 6: way they do in Jamaica. We're gonna spin the record

1484
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 6: back up, gunshot. We're gonna and America's never hurt it.

1485
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 6: They was like, what the fuck the bridge is over?

1486
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 4: What?

1487
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 3: They didn't know what the fun was. It was like, Yo,

1488
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: it was.

1489
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 4: That's what it was called sound.

1490
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm not even from the bridge I'm just from Queens,

1491
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 2: but it still hurts Karen.

1492
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a moment of silence.

1493
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: Take that moment. Let's drink.

1494
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 6: Drink.

1495
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: I can't share.

1496
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: Fund it out. So why did why did.

1497
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: You even respond to Shan Shannon? Listen, let me just say,

1498
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: Shannon is still a godfather, no doubt off Queen's Bridge

1499
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: of Queens.

1500
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 1: He's still a forefather. But this time, why did you respond?

1501
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 3: Like Shan is the reason, Hey, a restaurant has a career.

1502
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: Damn this okay, this is let's make some noise for

1503
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: that man.

1504
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 2: In my opinion, the greatest battle on the record, no

1505
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: doubt on record. To me, it was the greatest battle

1506
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: because it affected like it changed people lives. Like right now,

1507
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: when I see people battle, it don't change people lives.

1508
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: We just laugh at them.

1509
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,520
Speaker 2: And you know, but this, like Queen's had to prove ourselves,

1510
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: like we had to like you know what I mean,

1511
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: like South Bronx was was was the position where.

1512
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: Y'all had to dig out the rubble. I got outside,

1513
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 4: I could.

1514
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: What he said.

1515
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: It's like Brooklyn has always been recognized. I can remember

1516
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,919
Speaker 2: back in ninety seven, I used to go to Atlanta

1517
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: and be like, yo is Atlanta in the house, and

1518
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: nobody from Atlanta would never, you know, say anything.

1519
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: And when I said New York in the house, people

1520
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: go crazy. And I would say Brooklyn. We were always

1521
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: my first choice.

1522
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: Brooklyn, and people will go issue.

1523
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: We see him, I see him backstage and be like,

1524
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: you're from Brooklyn.

1525
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 3: Where're at that?

1526
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: Like Queens Boulevard. God damn it. This motherfucker is a

1527
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: lion motherfucker. But you changed the game from that, And.

1528
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: So Shan.

1529
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: Responded to you recently.

1530
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, he started and started that, he started.

1531
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 1: He just he did an interview.

1532
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: It's a record.

1533
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 4: No, no, he didn't.

1534
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 3: Well wait he didn't do a record, No he did,

1535
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: he did. He did.

1536
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 4: Uh wait wait, let me go back. Just for the record.

1537
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,879
Speaker 4: I was battling some other dude in Pittsburgh recently.

1538
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe three months strike come out to the supermar

1539
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: like young Gris. I would have got it.

1540
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 6: I have an eggs and bread in my hand and ship.

1541
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 6: But I give the young kids a run for their money. Somebody,

1542
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 6: the young shooters gotta know somebody. The young kids don't

1543
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 6: know my history, so don't tell them. Don't tell them.

1544
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 6: Let me give me spank that. But but they but

1545
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 6: but but the point is is that I was battling

1546
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 6: some others. Some dude jumped on stage. He was this,

1547
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 6: and he was dressed like L, holding L's album album,

1548
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 6: and I was freestyling. I said some wax ship about L.

1549
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 6: I apologize for that because.

1550
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 3: L is up here.

1551
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 6: You know, he's even before me. You know what I'm saying.

1552
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 6: There's no disrespect there. But I was battling and the

1553
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 6: battle is for. He was like, he held up L's album.

1554
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,560
Speaker 2: I was like, are you telling me some kids just

1555
01:19:54,680 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: jumped one. Yeah, well he jumped on, gave a shot.

1556
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 7: Why what you got?

1557
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 3: He's smittish ship. It was corny, And so I started going,

1558
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: where where was this at Pittsburgh?

1559
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you did say that this is Pittsburgh.

1560
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 6: So in that he put up Shan's album and I said,

1561
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 6: we took Shan out already?

1562
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 3: What them up for? Shann heard that and said fuck him, man, Yeah,

1563
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 3: he ain't never took me out. This, that, and the other.

1564
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: Do you agree with his theory?

1565
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: His theory is that y'all should have been in front

1566
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: of each other like how the Battle Rappers do.

1567
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: Now do you agree with that theory.

1568
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just never showed up. Dude.

1569
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 4: It's thirty years.

1570
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 6: It's thirty years, dude, not the festival all up and down.

1571
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 6: Queens should make happen. Talk right only in Queen's Bridge,

1572
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 6: There's no excuse outdoor festivals.

1573
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 3: Come on summer Champ.

1574
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: It's thirty years and now he wants to do it face.

1575
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 6: That would be the end of his ship. If you

1576
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 6: ever want to see them all, that ship will be destructive.

1577
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 6: I don't know what he's asking for, but you know,

1578
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 6: I eat.

1579
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: Off this ship. Man, this is my ship right here.

1580
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 7: You know he'll have it in you.

1581
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot somebody.

1582
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

1583
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: So you really written the studio arm recorded a new rend.

1584
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: Well, he came out with something he did.

1585
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 6: He did an interview and he said some rhymes on

1586
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 6: the interview that he's coming at me. So I'm from

1587
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 6: you don't just say that's like pulling your gun and

1588
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 6: that ship like what you're gonna pull your ship out?

1589
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 3: I'm blasting you. That's it.

1590
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 6: That's I'm not what that's the end of. So he

1591
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 6: said his little piece put a piece out.

1592
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: So what did he exactly say? He like freestyle a cappella.

1593
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it sounds like it was written though it

1594
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 6: had no heart to it, like a real freestyle. He

1595
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 6: was reading some ship and he read some ship off

1596
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: and that you and I just fuck. Yeah, I'm going

1597
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 6: to Atlanta. I'm going to Atlanta.

1598
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 3: That's what, dude? Is that? Oh?

1599
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: That's what?

1600
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1601
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 6: Sham work is sham work at a place called Club

1602
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 6: Babes in Atlanta. Okay, I'm going there. Okay, that's why

1603
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 6: I don't know what I just started.

1604
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what. No, no, no, you want to

1605
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 3: see it. Let's get it popping so.

1606
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 5: You will be willing drink champs. I think it's an

1607
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 5: opportunity for us, right, No, no, no.

1608
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 8: No no.

1609
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't want them to do with this battle. I

1610
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: just want to see it online.

1611
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: Queens lorda queens man, listen, I don't really want to

1612
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: see this battle happen.

1613
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: Can you? Is there anywhere we can chill you out?

1614
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 5: Or no?

1615
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 6: Not? You know what?

1616
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: What What did he say that ignited you to want

1617
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: to go?

1618
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 6: It's not what is being said, it's so it's the

1619
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 6: audacity to even think that, after thirty years, you you

1620
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 6: got something for me. You are crazy. You obviously want

1621
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 6: more hits on your ship or whatever it is. Let

1622
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 6: me give them to you, Let me give it to you,

1623
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 6: let me bleak you up. Because again, let me also

1624
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 6: say this, if Shan never answered me, I would not

1625
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 6: have a career, okay saying from the South from the

1626
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 6: South Bronx. Okay, that record could have been a one hit.

1627
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 6: Like if South Bronx came out, we would have had

1628
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 6: one hit. Okay, we had no other shot. Shan answered,

1629
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 6: would kill that noise, and andever he.

1630
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 3: Didn't have to.

1631
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 6: So we came back with the bridges over and that's

1632
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 6: when we was able to follow up with Criminal Minded.

1633
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 6: We had four songs on the market. Now, Shan is

1634
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 6: the reason I exist. So the least I could do

1635
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 6: is Busses asked. That's the least I could do. You

1636
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, show them that love and hopefully

1637
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 6: I say, yo, somebody should write for Chancy.

1638
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 3: Back to your first question, Back to the first verson.

1639
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 6: Now, see if someone wrote for Sham, I would not

1640
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 6: be mad at all.

1641
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 3: Fuck that man. Save that nigga man, please.

1642
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: So you kept saying to him, you told him, you

1643
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 2: told him his name is Na spelled backwards, your father.

1644
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: He's the opposite.

1645
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 6: Yo, yo, let me pick up my nigga noads real quick,

1646
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 6: because he said Queen's Bridge was done until Illmatic came out. Okay,

1647
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 6: just for the history, Okay, Queens Bridge was criminal minded?

1648
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 6: Was was the ship and that ship that was it? Okay,

1649
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 6: I think Illmatic was better than criminal Minded. That's my opinion.

1650
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: Me being a Queen's kid, I can understand where you're

1651
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: coming from. But me living in that era, I gotta

1652
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: say criminal minded. If it wasn't a criminal minded, it

1653
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't be an ill matter.

1654
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: You could say that, no doubt, no doubt. We can

1655
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 3: say so. Yeah, we can say.

1656
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: I'm a real hip hop kid.

1657
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no.

1658
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 2: No.

1659
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: He turned into real niggas. You influenced knaves too.

1660
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: But you know what, you know what you are starting

1661
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 3: right now.

1662
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 6: Whoever's listening to us right now, go and listen to

1663
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 6: both albums right now, back to back, back to back.

1664
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 6: Listen to the whole Criminal Minded, and listen to the

1665
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 6: whole Illmatic.

1666
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: I did that this morning. That's the crazy ship.

1667
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen, you know that's what Criminal Mind is

1668
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: one of my favorite albums. I just it's two records

1669
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: I can't really listen to but I listened to them.

1670
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 2: But this morning I just woke up and I was like,

1671
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 2: I want to listen to ill Madic. I don't know why,

1672
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: and I just listened to it, and then I listened

1673
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: to Criminal Another Mind. If you want to switch the

1674
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: champagne right yo. So so I understand what you're saying.

1675
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: But me living in that era, that's.

1676
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: I can one hundred percent tell you NAS answer the

1677
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: question the same way.

1678
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: He'd be like, if it wasn't for her Criminal Minded,

1679
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: he wouldn't know because you made us step.

1680
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 6: Our game up, you know what, that game, but that

1681
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,839
Speaker 6: game got stepped up to the point where hip hop changed.

1682
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: No, but you changed hip hop too, just in case,

1683
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: because you know, I know you're imagine and you humble,

1684
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 2: but you changed hip hop. You You was the first

1685
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 2: person you was. You was our Malcolm X. Let me

1686
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: break that down to you. It is because hip hop

1687
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 2: had took up like the PM dolls, and it had

1688
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: took a hey, we're cool approach. But we wanted to

1689
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 2: keep that attitude. But we also wanted to learn something

1690
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: and that's the position you fulfilled. That's why that's why

1691
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: your your name as a teacher would never be testing

1692
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: at all. No one could ever say he's not a

1693
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 2: teacher because you taught us the wool tangs, the mob deeps,

1694
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: the kabon and noriegas the nases. So I can't agree

1695
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: with your statement. I know your statement is humo saying

1696
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: that is better, but it is beat for beat.

1697
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: No, but that's not But that's not how history happened.

1698
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 2: How history happens is they say, you know this happened

1699
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: in order for this to that way.

1700
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: So that when I was coming from a different perspective about.

1701
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Talk about Shan, you're a great guy, a great guy.

1702
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 6: We understand when you wait a minute, how else was

1703
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 6: Queen's been supposed to come back?

1704
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: So now let's let's now let's answer Shan's question. Because

1705
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: I listened to the interview, Shan is also a guard

1706
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 2: to me. He said that Molly told him not to respond.

1707
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: What do you think of that?

1708
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: That's that's that's pussy. It was right for him him

1709
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 3: that My god, that's.

1710
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 6: Grown ass man gonna tell you not to respond? We

1711
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 6: eating your ass right now, nigga, somebody.

1712
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: Respond as ship right, Oh man, this is real for me,

1713
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: this is so surreal. I don't even know where to go.

1714
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 5: If we're gonna wrap this up, you know, get out

1715
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 5: of here, man before we wrap this up.

1716
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm the only Miami represented here right now.

1717
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 5: Yes, so it wouldn't be right for you to walk

1718
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 5: away without me to represent my generation of Miami hip hopatogia.

1719
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 5: And when you recorded with Mother Superior this album didn't really.

1720
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: See the like lame is this is your usually?

1721
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 3: Lie?

1722
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 1: What's Mother Superior?

1723
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 5: Mother Superior is this dope MC that came out of

1724
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 5: Miami in the mid nineties early mid nineties, and she

1725
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 5: was spear heading our movement. I mean, there was those

1726
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 5: funky bastards, there was Society Home Team, there was there

1727
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 5: was We had a bubble of movement that was parallel

1728
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 5: to the bass movement. Base, no doubt is a part

1729
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 5: of our Miami culture. But we had we had a

1730
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 5: hip hop and the way you guys were talking about

1731
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 5: how everybody was talking about the Brooklyn and the Bronx

1732
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 5: or whatever in the clubs, we had that problem here.

1733
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 4: So what we're trying to do is build our own

1734
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 4: identity record. So she did this album.

1735
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 5: She got signed to Island Music, you know, strictly off

1736
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 5: of underground radio, she did a song called rock Bottom,

1737
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 5: which was totally representative of Miami, and then he did

1738
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 5: a record with her, maybe a couple but this one

1739
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 5: record I put on one of my mixtapes, but her

1740
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 5: album never came out.

1741
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 4: It got shelved. And he said, where you at? Where

1742
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 4: you at?

1743
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 5: Miami's on the map, if you remember that, And that

1744
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 5: made the world of difference for a Miami hip ho kid.

1745
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 5: And I just you couldn't leave without me telling you

1746
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 5: that because it made the world of difference for all

1747
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 5: of us out here.

1748
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: Let's make that.

1749
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 3: I felt some mother superior to the superior she was.

1750
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 3: She was hot man.

1751
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 4: When Stone words.

1752
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: One question, where was your mind at when you made

1753
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 1: the sound of the police?

1754
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 6: I was sick of these pigs man shooting us down

1755
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 6: in the street. And it's still going on still what

1756
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 6: it was going on since we got here?

1757
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 1: So what was the sound? What year was that?

1758
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 3: Technically? Ninety five? Damn?

1759
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: What what year are you at now?

1760
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen? That's twenty years, twenty one.

1761
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: Years and you made that record then, yeah, and it's

1762
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: still going on.

1763
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 3: Now still to this table, little n W A man

1764
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 3: fucked the police?

1765
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: What was what year was fuck to the police.

1766
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 3: That was eighty eighty nine.

1767
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: And see, this is the thing is when people say,

1768
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 2: you know, black people are overdoing it, we have documents.

1769
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: Records that says no doubt that these people was doing it.

1770
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: So I was just like to say, what was the Mondster?

1771
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: You woke this in the South Bronx.

1772
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind that. Wow, I don't even know

1773
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 3: how to say this, but.

1774
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 6: In the Bronx, if you was really successful with your

1775
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,879
Speaker 6: hustle in the hood, the cops was your friends.

1776
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Larry Davis day, Yeah, it were.

1777
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 6: Larry Davis was right on our block like Webster Project.

1778
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 6: He was up the block from Webster Project. The whole

1779
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 6: thing went down, the cops was like they were gangster like.

1780
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 6: It's like, oh boom, okay, they speed this up. Training

1781
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 6: Day in the movie Training Day, that is every day

1782
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 6: all day. Okay, just go watch Training Day and you'll

1783
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 6: know what it is. It's just there's just another gang

1784
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 6: with another jurisdiction. And then and this is what we

1785
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 6: were dealing with. So if you remember in Bookie Down Productions,

1786
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 6: we had a we had a dude called RoboCop that

1787
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 6: was with us and there were two of them. One

1788
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 6: was a Bounce was the lead bouncer at Latin Quarters

1789
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 6: who is known for breaking dudes up in Latin Court.

1790
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 6: He had a reputation. You didn't want to deal with

1791
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 6: this dude, okay. And there was another dude, uh that

1792
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 6: was a state trooper, New Jersey State trooper. When I'm

1793
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 6: posting on the on the cover by all these necessary

1794
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 6: with the uzzi, the uzi is from a New Jersey

1795
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 6: state trooper, smer in the studioper.

1796
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: I didn't look at I didn't look as cool as you.

1797
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 3: That was from a New Jersey state. You was so

1798
01:32:59,320 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 3: with us.

1799
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 6: It was like it got to a point where he

1800
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 6: was like, you know what, we can't associate with you

1801
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 6: anymore because of what was going on. It was a

1802
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 6: split like in our own community, because like if you

1803
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 6: really in the hood, like like you could be selling

1804
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 6: mad drugs, but your brother's a cop, Like your cousin's

1805
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 6: a cop, your uncle's a cop. Like you know, it's

1806
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 6: not just oh, I'm a cop and everybody around me

1807
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 6: is clean. It's the exact opposite. Dudes that are cops

1808
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 6: even today, they gotta live with people like like, imagine

1809
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 6: you a cop and every day you see crime all

1810
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 6: around you. Every day, but you can just pick. Okay,

1811
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 6: I'm gonna arrest you today.

1812
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: How did you come up with the analogy from officer overseas?

1813
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 6: Oh, but that's that's the most shit because when we

1814
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 6: when we were first, when we were first brought here

1815
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 6: not as slaves but really as soldiers on the Spanish

1816
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 6: side and then slaves on the English side or the

1817
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 6: that's controversial too.

1818
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 3: But yo, heart, Yo here.

1819
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Yo, we're gonna get your new phone care.

1820
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 3: I need that one. I need that ship. I need

1821
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 3: that ship is eighty.

1822
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Can't do that.

1823
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm bringing that ship back.

1824
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Forget you, personally buying you.

1825
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 3: I gotta beep a nikes I got.

1826
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 4: You.

1827
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Listen, is no word I said. Yah, I want to be.

1828
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 6: Ship.

1829
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 3: I got serious, serious, I got a bee beeper.

1830
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: Bring beepers back. Yo.

1831
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 4: You want to get with dream camps.

1832
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: You gotta beep.

1833
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you gotta beat us. I'm personally buying cares.

1834
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, So you remember you're talking about

1835
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 2: because you can forget it and.

1836
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah I did.

1837
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay.

1838
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 3: Listen, we wanted to take the community, Oh, cops in

1839
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 3: the community.

1840
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: That's right, signing the police.

1841
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 6: So the cops is always your friends in the hood,

1842
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 6: which is the weirdest ship because when you really in

1843
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 6: the hood, cops ain't arresting you and shooting you. These

1844
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 6: are bitches that are shooting at us. This motherfuckers. That

1845
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 6: ain't no real ship. That's some bullshit. Okay, that's that's scared.

1846
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 6: They said, we scared. You know, that's what we shooting

1847
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 6: because we're scared. Real cops they know exactly who's selling

1848
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 6: who they hit the d a yo, go watch training day.

1849
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 2: The d ain't tell you.

1850
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 3: Go ahead, this dude to this one.

1851
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 2: I say all the time, when we have police brutality

1852
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 2: is when they stop letting the cops from the.

1853
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Hood, the hood, you know, you know what you call it,

1854
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: from down the block. He went to school with him.

1855
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: You know he's a thief, right, you don't need to

1856
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 1: kill him.

1857
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: But when what happened is they take the cops from

1858
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 2: our hood and they bring them to another place, and

1859
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 2: then they bring the cops from another place, and that's.

1860
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 1: Borderline.

1861
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 2: That's that's one of the essential reasons why police brutality exists.

1862
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: Because if you had Jamal that that's from Soundview Projects

1863
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: and that went to school in Soundview, and then now

1864
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 2: I was patrolling Soundview, he's going to be different as

1865
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 2: opposed to Walter as a Walter who's from wherever wherever.

1866
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: But now he's patrolling Soundview. He's never seen a kid

1867
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 2: with braids. He's never seen a kid either since I see.

1868
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: So he's going to just do whatever.

1869
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 4: So there's one.

1870
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 3: Add on.

1871
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 6: The police are supposed to be the model citizen in

1872
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 6: the community, no matter who you are, white cop, black cop,

1873
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 6: you cop, Asian cop, Arab cop, fuck.

1874
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 3: Who you are?

1875
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 6: You take police training, You're supposed to be the model citizen.

1876
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 6: Should you should have the most restraint. Okay, kids are

1877
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 6: looking at you. They should be able to look at

1878
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 6: you and be like, yo, dad, I want to be

1879
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 6: a cop, and your dad be like, yo, you gotta

1880
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 6: really be a good man to be a cop. And

1881
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 6: that that's what it's supposed to be. But our children

1882
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 6: forget adults. Okay, children know the cops are corrupt. Okay,

1883
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 6: that's the state we are, right, Kids, not forget the adults.

1884
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 6: Kids know I'm not safe around this dude. I'd rather

1885
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 6: be around my shooters over here, we're in the rag

1886
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 6: on their head. I'm more safe around crips and bloods.

1887
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 6: I rather hot yo, I'm even gonna say that.

1888
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 3: Shit.

1889
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 6: I'm just saying I rather hire them, which we do

1890
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 6: as opposed to some some off duty cop. Years ago,

1891
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 6: we used to hire off duty cops x FBI. These

1892
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 6: dudes need jobs. You just go ahead and you hire

1893
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 6: them for and now you give them some money. You're

1894
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 6: doing your country, your service. These are veterans and shit,

1895
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 6: you do your thing now. It's like, nah, man, let

1896
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 6: me organize these blogs over here. Hit them with some money,

1897
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 6: because I say, go on the street. Four.

1898
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 3: Let me hit them with some cashing. Y'all go.

1899
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 6: Y'all can stand there and just do what you're supposed

1900
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 6: to do and get organized. I'd rather hire them as

1901
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 6: long as we know that we're not safe around the police.

1902
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 6: This whole shit is corrupt, and let me show you

1903
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 6: this on some Illuminati shit if you really want to know.

1904
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 6: Years ago, like eighty two, there was supposedly a conspiracy

1905
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 6: theory going around about eighty two eighty three. It said

1906
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,560
Speaker 6: that the new World Order is going to include a

1907
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 6: global police force, and the way to implement the global

1908
01:38:55,520 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 6: police force was for local police to become so hated

1909
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 6: by the local community that the local communities cry out

1910
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 6: for international interference. So now you have these cops today

1911
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 6: randomly just shooting down black people, just shooting and it's stupid.

1912
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 6: It's like, it's ridiculous. Now the rest of the world

1913
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 6: is saying, Yo, what's up with America? What's what's somewhere?

1914
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 6: You go to other places, you know, Norway, you go

1915
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 6: to places, dude's looking at us like wea crazy, Like Yo,

1916
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 6: what's going I got Africans asking me, yo, bro, what's up?

1917
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 8: Man?

1918
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 3: A black man?

1919
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes you land in these different countries, they be like welcome, like.

1920
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 6: Right, you're here, like you survived.

1921
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 2: And dudes, do you think that's because because Barack became

1922
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 2: president it got worse or.

1923
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 6: No no, yeah, no, no, no, no, you know what

1924
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 6: he got to do. You got a lot of factors

1925
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 6: in it. First of all, people want black people in jail. Okay,

1926
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 6: people make him money on it. Black people are making

1927
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 6: money on black people in jail.

1928
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1929
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 6: This black DA sends no doubt this Black DA sending

1930
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 6: black people a prison. Black judges are sending black people

1931
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 6: are prison.

1932
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 3: Black cops are sending black people Black.

1933
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 6: Cops black stop shooting black Peobo were all gonna drop

1934
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 6: I got you, you know. So it's like it's like,

1935
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 6: are we really at war with any outside for us?

1936
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 6: Or we at war with ourselves? Are we just going

1937
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 6: along with the script that they have planned for us?

1938
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 6: And it's like straight up and down they just had

1939
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 6: Tyler Qualle was just with me the other day. He

1940
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 6: came over so Washington.

1941
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,759
Speaker 3: He just told me he just came from the White

1942
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 3: House with a couple other rappers were there, and really

1943
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 3: nothing got discussed, you know. And they never call people

1944
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 3: like me or Chuck or m One or I mean,

1945
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 3: they don no doubt that they never know. But you

1946
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 3: know what they had Rick there. You know what I'm saying.

1947
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1948
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 6: So I'm saying, no, why don't they because they know

1949
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 6: you're gonna come with the truth. Look, here's the point

1950
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 6: is that is that we're moving into this script. The

1951
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 6: United States has to become what its name is in

1952
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 6: order to for it to survive. United fu all this

1953
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 6: black ship, give me this, Yes, this is this legendary.

1954
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:41,759
Speaker 6: This is a bit right, America. You gotta become united.

1955
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 6: United America got to stand up for America, like straight

1956
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 6: up when you go to other countries, niggas.

1957
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 3: This in US man, this in Americas. This is not everybody.

1958
01:41:53,080 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: Because first game President, everybody overseas, they was like black

1959
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 2: man ship, like the like the first year word.

1960
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 4: Then after that.

1961
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 1: It was like, you know what, there's a rumor that

1962
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 1: you didn't fly. I was taking boats yep, and.

1963
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 3: No doubt and reatha Franklin.

1964
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 1: So so do you do you fly now?

1965
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 3: No, I'll fly privately. I love flying.

1966
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 6: I fly helicopters. I'll fly private jets, you know, things

1967
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 6: like that. Take a few private jets in there. But

1968
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 6: commercial airlines for me, it is too much. The love

1969
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 6: in the hood is too much. For char rest, I

1970
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 6: don't I can't do nothing like you know, like to

1971
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 6: get to the airport. It takes me an hour, the

1972
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 6: baggage clean, bucking the whole baggage claim. I gotta take

1973
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 6: pictures with everybody pun I'm not leaving my people. I'm

1974
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 6: not just gonna walk past you. So everybody said, yo, Chris,

1975
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 6: I gotta stop. I gotta take pictures. I got signs ship,

1976
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 6: get on the plane, the stewardess bucket, the people on

1977
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 6: the on the plane again, Captain, I said, you know what,

1978
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 6: And this was ninety seven, I said, forget it.

1979
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm not flying. I'm not flying no more. I can't.

1980
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 3: You haven't since ye, since ninety seven, actually ninety six.

1981
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise for me being rich.

1982
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1983
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: You gotta retreat the line it's a rich listen there, God,

1984
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 2: it's not rich.

1985
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 3: I'm not a rich man. I'm a very poor man.

1986
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: No, no, me too, I say the same.

1987
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 3: I take poverty. I'm not rich, me too.

1988
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 1: But you want the private things, let's talk about it.

1989
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 6: But but I will privately. Look, I take very good

1990
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 6: care of my wife and my children. Okay, that's what

1991
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 6: it is. I don't need anything, but they need a lot.

1992
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 6: So you know, I say, Look, I don't want to

1993
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 6: have a career where I'm away from my kids or

1994
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 6: my wife and this, that and the other.

1995
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 3: So and I can't be away from my wife. She

1996
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 3: books on the tours.

1997
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: Did you book a boat to London?

1998
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 4: I heard that too.

1999
01:43:58,680 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: I heard this story.

2000
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm rushing out of here and now

2001
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 3: to get Yeah, I'm going.

2002
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 4: To Spain tomorrow.

2003
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 2: Walk about are you getting in a boat?

2004
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm going tomorrow?

2005
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 6: Is Norwisian Norwesian Cruise pulls right up to your port.

2006
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 6: I'm getting on that ship and then it goes to

2007
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 6: it goes to Spain many days.

2008
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 3: Fourteen days, I'll be in Barcelona.

2009
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: What so, No, this is you in college? Is like

2010
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: the only two left?

2011
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 6: You know?

2012
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: College don't fly neither?

2013
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 3: No, I think he got it. I expected why should

2014
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 3: college fly? Why should he fly?

2015
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 4: So?

2016
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 3: Why what? What?

2017
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:45,720
Speaker 1: What? Why you wouldn't fly?

2018
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 3: Well?

2019
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 6: Well, well, first of all, like I told you, commercial

2020
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 6: travel to me is just hectic. Besides like you now,

2021
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 6: besides that, I have books to write. I got rhymes

2022
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 6: to right, I read a lot. My life is slower,

2023
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I take time with my family,

2024
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 6: my wife, my daughter, my sons, like you need time

2025
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 6: for that. So you know, fourteen days at see, I'm

2026
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 6: finishing up three books that I'm just finishing.

2027
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: So you're saying you just zone out, zone out, you

2028
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 2: zone try that one? You should you should try right

2029
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 2: and rhyme at I got a d D.

2030
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 3: Hit that water. You don't have a d D. Smoke

2031
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 3: too much?

2032
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: I might just jump over.

2033
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 3: Actually is cured marijuana, curreus, That's what I'm saying.

2034
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 4: So it doesn't have it.

2035
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 2: And the thing is the weed I smoke is so loud,

2036
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a judge.

2037
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: That come out.

2038
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell your story, right, let me tell you story.

2039
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: I was in Hawaii because I remember this story because

2040
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: he's drinking my ties. So I'm in Hawaii, right, I'm out,

2041
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, I'm smoking weed.

2042
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 8: Right.

2043
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 1: This is my first marriage, it's my first I'm married again,

2044
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: it's my second.

2045
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 3: One.

2046
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Pray for me.

2047
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there smoking. The people at the Four Seasons,

2048
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: the Four Seasons Maui. So they call me and they say, yo, are.

2049
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: You smoking up there?

2050
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what I paid

2051
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: for this room, but I just know my accountant lost

2052
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 2: her mind. So I'm like, yeah, I'm smoking. They're like,

2053
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 2: cauld you would you mind not smoking on the terrace?

2054
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: So I said, now you're inviting me to smoke in

2055
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 2: the room.

2056
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: They're like, you're right.

2057
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 2: They're like, we have a very important guess that is upstairs.

2058
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 2: And I'm like, did the guests pay more than me?

2059
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: And they're like no.

2060
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, they're like, mister Santiago, that's my

2061
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 2: last name. I don't know if you don't buy Puerto

2062
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:45,759
Speaker 2: Rican makes a noise from Latina.

2063
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm black and Latin.

2064
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 3: So they say, I'm actually performing in Santiago.

2065
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: This is a gift. So they say to me, they say,

2066
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: you're right, You're actually outside. You can't do it. Bo I.

2067
01:46:58,479 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Look on the news.

2068
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 2: This is when Oprah step son had drowned in Hawaii

2069
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 2: and Maui. So the person I was telling them to

2070
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 2: tell them the funk that I paid the same amount

2071
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 2: was fucking Oprah.

2072
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 4: This is morbid story.

2073
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 3: Because I liked it.

2074
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 2: I actually paid square for square. We had the same

2075
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 2: exact room. God bless you know the people who passed

2076
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 2: away and and everything. But that ship was just the

2077
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 2: moment for It was a moment for just me standing

2078
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:37,640
Speaker 2: in my ground. But now I'm aging and trying to

2079
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 2: make this one work.

2080
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 3: Second was always the best.

2081
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: You'd you're the second one to first year.

2082
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 3: And a half, and big up to her, Rest in peace, blessed.

2083
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 8: I did not that.

2084
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm every religion, by the way, So if you see

2085
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 1: me do that, I'm a Muslim.

2086
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: Christian, God body, Kay, thank you for so much for

2087
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 2: hanging out with us.

2088
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: We're not gonna we can and I'll come back.

2089
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 3: No about fourteen days when I come back. The people

2090
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 3: need you.

2091
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 2: Let's just break it down for these people. You are

2092
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: going fourteen days. So now, how does this cruise happen?

2093
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 2: You leave Miami, do.

2094
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: You stop anywhere?

2095
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 3: Yes?

2096
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: Who do you stop at?

2097
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 4: We stop in Pune, call Africa, we stopped.

2098
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 1: All you go from Miami to Africa.

2099
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got real quick from Miami Africa.

2100
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: I've never heard of.

2101
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 3: This.

2102
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 6: Some Bahamas, A little Bahamas, O Bahamas. Then you get

2103
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 6: out to Africa. Then you get done this trip before.

2104
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no doubt not on this ship. But I've

2105
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 6: done other ships. I've done that.

2106
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: And how many times do you say you dim this?

2107
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 6: Oh, saund yes, oh at least thirty times? And you

2108
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 6: believe in them both.

2109
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: You've never been Titanic.

2110
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 6: No, no, no, there's no Titanic anyway in the Atlantic Ocean.

2111
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 6: The coast got will get you in ten minutes.

2112
01:48:58,840 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 3: Anyway.

2113
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 6: It ain't all that boat. That's bullshit. That's this movie ship.

2114
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 6: This rich motherfucker's on that boat. That boat ain't going nowhere.

2115
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 6: There's no there's nothing, there's nothing now mind you. Now

2116
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 6: come on now, Caribbean Cruises and.

2117
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 3: All that you the cruise. Do I get them, Oh yeah,

2118
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 3: no doubt. You get platinum gold status.

2119
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 4: Passengers, no doubt.

2120
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: But the triangle, the Bermuda Triangle. You ever been there?

2121
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in the part of the Bermuda Triangle.

2122
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: You've been to the right through it.

2123
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 3: Get the Bermuda.

2124
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 6: Triangle only acts up when when like you know you

2125
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 6: you have to go through that and like like it's

2126
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 6: like certain seasons where they say it's like hurricane season

2127
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 6: or this kind of thing.

2128
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: Look, everything gets me. The bottom line. You trust a

2129
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 2: boat more than a plane? No, no, no, okay, I.

2130
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 6: Trust me driving ship more than anything. I would prefer

2131
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 6: to get my own boat and sail across the sea myself.

2132
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 6: But I'm not going to settle for a small yacht.

2133
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 6: Like you know, I could do a small yacht right now,

2134
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 6: but that's not what I want. What I want is

2135
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 6: an actual ship that I could go across and that

2136
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 6: costs mad money. So I'm just holding out till I

2137
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 6: can get my own ship, and then I could I

2138
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:23,679
Speaker 6: could see.

2139
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 2: Some motherfuckers want to buy planes. They want to ship,

2140
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 2: pay us one and more owner ship goddam.

2141
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 3: Straight up, no doubt.

2142
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 1: So you think I'm gonna give you this last one.

2143
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 3: It's the last question.

2144
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 2: Boxing don't have no representative, which means that if you're boxer,

2145
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 2: you make it, you make it. If you're a boxer,

2146
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 2: you don't make it, you're fucked up. There's no there's

2147
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 2: no reparations, there's no like you know, type of you know,

2148
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 2: to hold you down.

2149
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 1: Hip hop is the only other.

2150
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 2: I want to say, entertainment company that we might have

2151
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 2: thirty people, that's down with us.

2152
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: But when you go on that vocal ble for you

2153
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: go to perform that record, it's just you.

2154
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: Similar to boxing, we don't have nothing to representing us

2155
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 2: in hip hop. We hear that the president just recently

2156
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: met with these people to our lib quality brothers that

2157
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 2: we know busta rhyms. What do you think is our

2158
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 2: solution to make we need a hip hop You you

2159
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 2: wanted the life insurance or the health insurance.

2160
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 3: No, I'm even further than that now.

2161
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well let me because like right now, like DC right,

2162
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 2: phenomenal guy lost his voice, there should have been health

2163
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 2: insurance that kind of helped him restore that.

2164
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 3: We didn't have that.

2165
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: And right now, because Jadakis said something on our podcast,

2166
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 2: he said, we're the only people who have a hip

2167
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 2: hop South, a hip hop regions. Well, there's no hip hop.

2168
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 2: There's no rock and rolls out, there's no rock and roll.

2169
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:03,520
Speaker 4: Why are we segregating?

2170
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: Why are we say and do we need this?

2171
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: This this policies where we if HRC gets sick, we

2172
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 2: can go and help it.

2173
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 3: Do we need that?

2174
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:17,600
Speaker 6: Yes we do, Yes we do, and and and and

2175
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 6: and I advocate it absolutely. Unity is the only thing

2176
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 6: we talked about, American unity. Let's let's tweak it down

2177
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 6: to hip hop unity. Hip hop is the greatest urban

2178
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 6: movement to hit human history. Let's just start human history. Okay,

2179
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 6: human history, Okay, hip hop breaking him seeing graffiti, DJ

2180
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 6: and beatboxing. You can add street fashion, language, knowledge, all

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Speaker 6: of that, that movement in the hood. That that right there,

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Speaker 6: hip hop is is what America really is. It's like

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Speaker 6: the true declaration of Independence. It's what America is. But

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Speaker 6: we got these old people. You ask me also about

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Speaker 6: hip hop's old school. Okay, I have respect for the

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Speaker 6: old school. We all we should. Those are the ancestors,

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Speaker 6: those are the elders, those are the fathers, godfathers and

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01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 6: so on. That's that's what it is, right. But when

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Speaker 6: you don't do your job. You don't deserve the respect

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01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 6: of the youth. Elders always asking for respect that they

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01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 6: don't deserve me. I try to earn the respect of

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Speaker 6: the youth. I don't look down on them. I think

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01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 6: they're smarter than me. I think they're faster than me.

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01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 6: I think they think of things beyond what I can

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Speaker 6: think about.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: Of course I tell them, Hey, look, I'm the old

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Speaker 6: head in the room, and I like that shit. I'm fifty.

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Speaker 6: Fuck this shit, Okay, that's my shit. I got an

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Speaker 6: AARP cord.

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Speaker 1: Dude, got this.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. What fifty percent off hotels? What? Yo?

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01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 3: Let me tell you. Okay, we yo, we're the eldest

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Speaker 3: in this.

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Speaker 6: Young people are supposed to look up to us and

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01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 6: be like, Yo, that's what it means to be fifty

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Speaker 6: in hip hop world. You got your knowledge downpack, your

2208
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 6: family straight, you got your money right, You're doing your thing.

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Speaker 6: That's what young people need to see and see. More blueprint,

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Speaker 6: the blueprint. Now we're gonna do it. Shows like this,

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01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 6: your ship bringing people together right now as we speak.

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01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 6: Right now, as we speak, dude is hearing what it is.

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01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 6: What we gotta do is really unite And here's what

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01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 6: it's gonna take. Here's you asked this about to stop

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01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 6: the violence movement? About why brothers ain't doing that today?

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01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 6: What like what we're so hard to do that today?

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01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 6: Too much, too much competition, not enough cooperation. Okay, we

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Speaker 6: live in a capitalist sidey we we we we live

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Speaker 6: in a capitalist society where uh uh, where competition.

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Speaker 3: Is the number one order of the day.

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01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 6: So the young a train to kill the all so

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01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 6: that you can get so that you could be what

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01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 6: it is the younger train to kill the all? The

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01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 6: all a train to kill the young so you can

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Speaker 6: stay in power. Kill these young as as they coming up.

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Speaker 2: What you take hip hop the only generation like you know,

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01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: the brothers could talk forever.

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Speaker 1: Why do they try to kill the older?

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01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 3: Well, it's that it's that competition. It's still competition.

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01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 6: Look when we start, when we stop thinking of hip

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01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 6: hop as a music and start thinking of it as

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Speaker 6: a culture, a nation.

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01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 3: A community.

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01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 6: When you start realizing that you are a nation, you're

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01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 6: a sovereign nation, all we gotta do is unite.

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01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 4: There's no ages, just just unite.

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01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 6: Just here's the unity I hear it is. Let's print

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01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 6: our own currency. All right, start right. This is the

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01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 6: unity of any nation starts with trust. We print one

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Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars for every hip hop citizen in existence.

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01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 6: We have a million citizens. We print one hundred million

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Speaker 6: of our currency.

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Speaker 3: We get.

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01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:54,839
Speaker 4: Currency.

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01:56:55,640 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 6: Right, he'll be a fifty cent I'm coming right now here.

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01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 6: He'll be a fifty cent piece of fifties.

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01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 3: Worth more than that.

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01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying, no, print our own currency.

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01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: And let's see if the people spend that.

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Speaker 4: No, they will. You'll be instantly rich.

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01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: So instead of people buying albums, we give them, give

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01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: them currency.

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01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 6: Buy our currency, not an albums. Right, I forget selling

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01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 6: an album.

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Speaker 3: We did that. We know that game.

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Speaker 6: Now let's sell currencies in which you got the KRS currency.

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01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 6: And dude, be like, yo, this shit is worth this

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 6: this week up against the American dollar against this is

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 6: the end, up against the euro, up against the ship. Yo. Look,

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Speaker 6: if you gave me one hundred thousand dollar, let's say

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Speaker 6: you get no, let's say I gave you one hundred

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01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 6: thousand Okay, I'll give you one hundred thousand hip hop

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01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 6: currency currency Okay, hip hop.

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna spend it with my man.

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01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 6: Right here, what we want is specialized people to have

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01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 6: this money.

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Speaker 3: Electricians. Right now, hip hop is old enough.

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01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 6: We got doctors, lawyers, your ps workers, We got all

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01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 6: kinds of entrepreneurs, okay, huge entrepreneurs. All we gotta do

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01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 6: is trade our own currency with each other, with each other.

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01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 6: This hip hop is it own stores, farms. Look due,

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01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 6: funk that American dollar.

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01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 4: D I here, I can't, can't.

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01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to see if you're gonna hit the blind.

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Speaker 3: This is brown ship.

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01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 6: No, no, I gotta be up till four in the

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01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 6: morning to the plastic I'm noting its plastic.

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Speaker 3: Ship.

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01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Ger enjoint. We gotta joint. We gotta joint.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere around here, somewhere around your care rest. I love

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 2: you so much much, man, Thank you so much for

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01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 2: joining us and being a great sport.

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01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 1: Took a drink, you even tried to smoke.

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01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 3: You didn't want to drink.

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01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Bring you back to the old school. Dude, brother, I'm

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01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 2: a dude. Pass over there, can pass it over there,

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01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 2: that's the drink. We gotta take one picture with you

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01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 2: over there, came green. There's no way I could thank

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01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 2: you ever in my life.

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01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm be in your video.

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01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 3: We have a home.

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01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Man, I'm being your video, but it's no way I

2293
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 1: can thank you ever in life.

2294
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 2: Because this is this is actually like one of the

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01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 2: first hip hop albums I ever listened to.

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01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: This man right here, one of the first.

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01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 2: People that ever said that I thought about, Like my

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01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 2: Mom's like what you're.

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01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: Going to be in life? And I was just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I knew I couldn't be a teacher,

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01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 1: not like you.

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01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 4: But I am a teacher, but not like you.

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01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm a different teacher because I show him a different past.

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02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: But if I've never already heard you, I would have

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Speaker 1: never wanted to speak. I will never be here.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I'm saying. So Hakim Green, you

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02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 2: know that's my brother. He called me, and when he

2308
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 2: called me, I said, I knew the number, but I

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02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 2: hit him back.

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Speaker 6: You know, I just said a record with hot called

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Speaker 6: Madism Sucking.

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Speaker 2: Madness, And he got a website. Right, come on, come

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Speaker 2: over here, come over here, ahead, hit that money.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you shout out your website.

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Speaker 9: Green, We got the madism dot org popping off, the

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Speaker 9: Ultimate cannabis journal. You know you got to you got

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02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 9: the Madism popping off internationally. It's big money right now.

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Speaker 9: I want to make sure my people get a taste

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Speaker 9: of that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: So see us off at madism dot org. So you

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02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,400
Speaker 9: can keep up with all the latest grow techniques. You

2324
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 9: know what I mean. Grow When you say grow, listen,

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Speaker 9: I'm talking about cannabis. I'm talking about that goodness, that

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Speaker 9: chronic that. You know what we do, what we got

2327
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 9: going on? Your casts need to know how to grow

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02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 9: for themselves. It's not not just about smoking it, but

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02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 9: industrial head is a multi billion A pipe in the

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Speaker 9: mail you got, Yeah, I got the whole. We got

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02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 9: the hot box.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 9: How we are different ways of you know, the vapor, got,

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02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 9: the smoke in the leaves, the paper, the blood, whole,

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Speaker 9: we got the hot box. It's just a special way

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Speaker 9: of inhaling.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's real, real good is important.

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Speaker 1: I got one more.

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Speaker 4: Ye Are you a vegetarian?

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Speaker 3: What are you? Yeah? Yes?

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02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 1: So you don't eat no fish?

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Speaker 4: No, I try to eat.

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02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,280
Speaker 3: I lean toward a vegetarian die, but I do eat fish.

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02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 3: You eat fish? How about you?

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02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 9: I'm not a vegetarian, right, but I am about my health.

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02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 9: I do a lot of juicing and I say, you

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Speaker 9: keep up with the bartender?

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02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 3: Were trying? Happy about that? Trying up? Did I drink?

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Speaker 4: You're running?

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02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for bugging this saying my brother Yo,

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02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 2: I called you Chris for the first time.

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Speaker 4: In my life.

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Speaker 1: I never called you Chris. No, no, what you know

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02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: what it's through the records. It's like I never knew

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02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 1: if I had the ability to call you Chris. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate with.

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02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 1: Greatest sport you actually sat down and drink. I didn't think.

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02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna be able to get

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Speaker 1: away with it. Shout out to thank you so much everybody.

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Speaker 1: Let's take this, Let's take speck.

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