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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 1: Game three other NBA Finals is in the books and
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks were not able to come up with
Speaker 1: a win. And the reason I said it that way
Speaker 1: is because you know there's this whole scriptwriter thing, you know,
Speaker 1: social media and stuff, and they say, like there's a script,
Speaker 1: and like the script be written, and that's just what
Speaker 1: it is. And as someone who play in the NBA,
Speaker 1: I wish I had the script because Jackson, my producer,
Speaker 1: who is an avid Boston Celtics fan, has on my rundown.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. We are here
Speaker 1: to break down Game three of the NBA Finals. The
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks got a big win without with Chris stops
Speaker 1: for zingis out and we have ourselves a series now.
Speaker 3: Thank god. I actually do my work before these things.
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, I just want to let you Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks fans know he jinks Yaw. He did this on
Speaker 1: purpose because he is a Boston Celtics fan and he
Speaker 1: and he jinks Shaw and so this rundown is wrong. However,
Speaker 1: we do not have our champs only guest tonight. A
Speaker 1: big shot Chance wasn't able to make it, so I
Speaker 1: do apologize to our audience. We will definitely have Chance
Speaker 1: on in the future, so we can talk about that
Speaker 1: some about the how bad the Warriors would beat the Pistons, uh,
Speaker 1: the four Pistons.
Speaker 3: That is.
Speaker 1: But for now, we'll talk a little bit about the game,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, if I'm honest, I don't really have
Speaker 1: much energy to talk about the game. Uh.
Speaker 3: And we'll talk about the legend the logo.
Speaker 1: Good friend the great Jerry West passing away, my relationship
Speaker 1: with him, and yeah, we'll just get into that.
Speaker 3: But first, the Celtics rode a monster second half on
Speaker 3: the way to the win.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown really got it going in the wind which.
Speaker 3: Put the Celtics up three.
Speaker 1: Oh. I thought, you know, that was a very big
Speaker 1: half of Jalen very big half of the Celtics. But
Speaker 1: even going back before we get into that, J T
Speaker 1: and six, Jalen Brown thirty eight and eight, twenty four
Speaker 1: in the second half, Luca twenty seven, six and six,
Speaker 1: Kyrie thirty five to assist three boards, and.
Speaker 3: You will ask the question, is this series over? Yes,
Speaker 3: this series is.
Speaker 1: Over, And quite frankly, you kind of knew this series
Speaker 1: was over towards the end of the first quarter when
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks went up twenty five. I'm sorry, y'all
Speaker 1: if I sound all over the place, that in my
Speaker 1: mind really has been all over the place, and I.
Speaker 3: Had a lot of stuff on my mind.
Speaker 1: So if I feel like I'm drifting a little bit,
Speaker 1: just bear with me, because my feelings are very hurt,
Speaker 1: my heart is very hurt, and I am very bothered today,
Speaker 1: So just bear with me. Appreciate you all tuning in,
Speaker 1: and I did not want to not show up at all,
Speaker 1: but just bear with me here. However, you kind of
Speaker 1: knew this series was over in the first quarter towards
Speaker 1: the end when Dallas had.
Speaker 3: A twenty five to twelve.
Speaker 1: League and then they did it, and you know, you
Speaker 1: give up a dunk at the end of the first quarter,
Speaker 1: it's tough, you know, you start giving up threes to
Speaker 1: Like Sam Hauser, that's how teams win championships. Always say
Speaker 1: championships are won six through ten, not one through five,
Speaker 1: And Boston is really proving that.
Speaker 3: Like Peyton Pritchard, a couple of big.
Speaker 1: Moments in game two, Sam Houser, big moments in game one,
Speaker 1: big moments in game three. You know, like you got
Speaker 1: other Xavier Tillman tonight, huge minutes from Xavier Tilman tonight.
Speaker 1: Defensively that all the energy that he brought to the floor,
Speaker 1: especially when the Celtics were lack of energy.
Speaker 3: X kind of went out there and.
Speaker 1: Was a stabilizer for them and brought great energy and
Speaker 1: kind of brought that group forward from an energy standpoint.
Speaker 1: Going in, you know you're going to Game three on
Speaker 1: the road up two oh, probably relaxed, and I think
Speaker 1: Xavier Tillman did a great job coming in and bringing energy.
Speaker 3: To a team that was struggling.
Speaker 1: Kind and then also, you know, the reality factor has
Speaker 1: set in for the Boston Celtics, which is like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're watching boxing, boxers come out, they do their thing,
Speaker 1: they box a little bit, but the first few rounds
Speaker 1: most boxers are kind of trying to figure out like
Speaker 1: their opponent, and once they take that first big shot,
Speaker 1: most boxers go one way or the other. And if
Speaker 1: you take that first big shot and you realize, like, wow,
Speaker 1: he can't knock me out, like he can't hurt me.
Speaker 1: The whole mindset of the boxer that took that took
Speaker 1: the other guys big shot is like, he can't hurt me.
Speaker 3: I'm pressing forward now.
Speaker 1: And you could tell that's kind of the mindset of
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. It's like their big shot can't hurt me.
Speaker 1: I'm pressing forward now. And every now and then you
Speaker 1: get relaxed in the seventh round and you make it dazed,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, like this guy can't knock
Speaker 1: me out. And the boxers usually going to finish the
Speaker 1: fight or stop the fight or.
Speaker 3: Win the fight.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where the Celtics are. They know
Speaker 1: Dallas's best shot can knock them out, and so they
Speaker 1: kind of mess around with the game. They go up,
Speaker 1: then they relax, they go up, they relax, come out,
Speaker 1: relax because you know they can't. And so that's kind
Speaker 1: of where it is. Needless to say when it was thirty.
Speaker 1: You looked up and you're the Dallas Mavericks. And after
Speaker 1: all you've went through. When you can't give up that
Speaker 1: dunk to Jason Tatum at the end of the quarter,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And after all you went through, you look
Speaker 1: up start the second quarter a few seconds in and
Speaker 1: you're down thirty two to thirty one. That's just like
Speaker 1: a huge, huge body blow, like you just kind of
Speaker 1: it takes with Knox is a win out of you
Speaker 1: because you realize like damn ah, like all right, let's
Speaker 1: just keep pushing. And now a big, big, big psychological
Speaker 1: thing is this.
Speaker 3: So last podcast I mentioned.
Speaker 1: With me and Lou we was talking about Jordan Poole's shot,
Speaker 1: and the reality is, if you remember that game, Boston
Speaker 1: had went on a crazy run in that quarter and
Speaker 1: then Jordan Poole hit the shot and we were went
Speaker 1: up one point. And the difference in between being up
Speaker 1: one point or we went up one or two points,
Speaker 1: the difference in between being up one or two or
Speaker 1: down one or two is drastic because if you're up
Speaker 1: one or two, one or two, you go into the
Speaker 1: huddle and you like, yo, they just gave us their
Speaker 1: best shot, like they spent all that spending all that energy.
Speaker 1: They still down like, let's go finish the game now, like,
Speaker 1: let's make our run. And so just from a confidence standpoint,
Speaker 1: from a belief standpoint, you solid. But if you up one,
Speaker 1: down one or two, and we had already lost, like
Speaker 1: a game that we weren't supposed to lose to Boston
Speaker 1: and that series, if you're down one or two, then
Speaker 1: you look up and it's like, ah, like we did
Speaker 1: all of that and we down one, like we're down
Speaker 1: two going into the next quarter.
Speaker 3: It does something to you.
Speaker 1: So Boston Dallas going into the half up one allowed
Speaker 1: Dallas to kind of hold on to the false hope
Speaker 1: of light.
Speaker 3: Yo, fellas they made they run, we still got the lead.
Speaker 3: Let's go. However, if you're Boston.
Speaker 1: In and you're going into the second half, you going
Speaker 1: in and you're like, yo, you see that they just
Speaker 1: gave their best shot.
Speaker 3: You know, they just gave their.
Speaker 1: Best shot, and look at the score. We don't want
Speaker 1: like come on, let's go close these boys. And then
Speaker 1: you come out like Boston and you like go up
Speaker 1: twenty points.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the way it goes.
Speaker 1: They realize that they can't hurt them, and so the
Speaker 1: series is effectively over. I do think it'll be a sweep,
Speaker 1: and not because like Dallas will quit. I just think
Speaker 1: they've shown that Boston don't have enough. And so for
Speaker 1: all of us out there that kind of thought like
Speaker 1: Boston was gonna trick it off, we're wrong and most
Speaker 1: people want to accept that. Uh. I also wasn't, like,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking that this will happen. But anyway, UH
Speaker 1: happy that Xavier Tillman gonna get a ring, another Barton
Speaker 1: dog getting a ring. Happy for my brother j T
Speaker 1: he gonna get a ring. Would have loved something to
Speaker 1: see some of the guys on Dallas get the ring too,
Speaker 1: JB playing incredible, Drew get another one. A funny story, right,
Speaker 1: really funny story is Joe Hell and b tweet did
Speaker 1: the Bucks give them the championship?
Speaker 3: Them being Boston?
Speaker 1: And the answer to Joel's question is yes, they actually
Speaker 1: did because they traded Drew away, and like I just
Speaker 1: think even in that trade, like you gotta find and
Speaker 1: do all you can to like keep Drew, because Drew
Speaker 1: can guard bigger. So like there's Drew can play off
Speaker 1: the ball or on the ball, like there's no fit
Speaker 1: mismatch with like Drew and Dame. And I think, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think Portland was hell bent on getting Drew Holiday. Like, ultimately,
Speaker 1: I think that's what they got, but I don't think
Speaker 1: they were hell bent on it being Drew. But and
Speaker 1: I think there are some other things that the Boston
Speaker 1: i mean, Milwaukee could have done to keep Drew.
Speaker 3: But yes, ah they did.
Speaker 1: Because if you think about it, it's crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: brid Stevens won Executive of the Year and well deserved,
Speaker 1: Like to pull off that Drew move was huge. Ah,
Speaker 1: he traded Marcus Smart away and either brid Stevens got
Speaker 1: some incredible intel on like Drew Holliday is going to
Speaker 1: get traded soon and he's going to go to Portland
Speaker 1: and y'all will be able to send out nothing to
Speaker 1: Portland to get Drew Holliday back, and so it's okay
Speaker 1: to trade markt Smart. And the reality is, to me,
Speaker 1: it felt like Boston just panicked and didn't know what
Speaker 1: direction they were going to go, and they just panicked
Speaker 1: and traded market Smart and then like lo and behold,
Speaker 1: Milwaukee SAIDs Drew Holliday to Portland. Who Drew Holliday does
Speaker 1: want to go to Portland. Drew Holliday also wants to
Speaker 1: get an extension. Drew Holliday also wants to play winning
Speaker 1: basketball and don't want to play like the losing basketball
Speaker 1: in Portland.
Speaker 3: And because they're rebuilding, and so lo and behold.
Speaker 1: Then Portland says Drew to Boston and bam, they have
Speaker 1: their point guard, in which they did not really have
Speaker 1: a plan for. I think they was going to have
Speaker 1: Derek White maybe as the point guard, which Derek White
Speaker 1: can play the point guard, but Derek White's natural position
Speaker 1: to me as a point guard, and the team looks
Speaker 1: a lot different without Drew. And so then bam, they like,
Speaker 1: here you go Brad Stevens, and Brad Stevens made the
Speaker 1: incredible move of bringing Drew Holliday in there, and so
Speaker 1: and I said all of that to say Joel and
Speaker 1: Bee's questioned that he knew the answer to is absolutely correct.
Speaker 1: It did give them the championship. And Boston has done
Speaker 1: the job of putting it together. Got to get all Scots,
Speaker 1: but no, he gave it to him.
Speaker 3: So that's that. Moving on.
Speaker 1: Through this game, and I think, you know, this will
Speaker 1: be the first sweep, This will be the first sweep
Speaker 1: since the Workers twenty eighteen. Wow, yeah, I mean these
Speaker 1: sweeps don't happen often in the finals. Uh So I
Speaker 1: want you all to know the stuff that I deal
Speaker 1: with during this podcast all the time. And I always
Speaker 1: tell you guys about how Jackson is a Celtics fan
Speaker 1: and like they'll win a championship and he'll be like, ah,
Speaker 1: we won a championship, as if I really care, we
Speaker 1: beat them don't matter to me. But like the things
Speaker 1: that he put on these rundowns, like I wish I
Speaker 1: could see him Sometimes it says, if the Celtics sweep
Speaker 1: the Mavericks, where does their season land in terms of
Speaker 1: the best season of all time?
Speaker 3: The best of all time?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the best team of all time, but the
Speaker 1: best season of all time? And it's just like, what
Speaker 1: like if that actually isn't the like Jackson, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but this is the type of like stuff that be
Speaker 1: popping up on like first take. It's like something like
Speaker 1: this is the best season. Of course, this is not
Speaker 1: the best season of all time.
Speaker 3: Of course it's not. Of course it's not.
Speaker 4: It's probably what I've been saying of the twenty the
Speaker 4: twenty first century it's probably like up the twenty.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just got more first taken, she said,
Speaker 1: the twenty first century.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. Wow. I mean.
Speaker 1: Fourteen game lead over second place in the East is
Speaker 1: what he got. Like the East sucks, we know that,
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Like seven game lead over number one
Speaker 1: in the West, Like the West is competitive?
Speaker 3: Like stop it.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jackson, I feel like the Warriors teams
Speaker 1: of oh we we we won one of those seasons
Speaker 1: by quite a few games. The only problem that we had, though,
Speaker 1: is like the San Antonio Spurs is always one game.
Speaker 1: So even when we create like these crazy seasons, you
Speaker 1: always just had the Spurs floating around at sixty two.
Speaker 3: Wins or something like that, real casual sixty sixty two
Speaker 3: wins on a down year.
Speaker 1: And so, needless to say, no, Jackson, I don't know
Speaker 1: why this is on the rundown. And then he got
Speaker 1: the nerves to put in there. Currently fifteen and twelve
Speaker 1: two in the postseason, Warriors in twenty seventeen wins, sixty
Speaker 1: seven and fifteen the regular season and sixteen and one
Speaker 1: in the postseason. All right, well, I guess that already
Speaker 1: makes us better than them. Hans Jackson, because we went
Speaker 1: since sixty sixty seven and fifteen in the regular season
Speaker 1: in the West, that's real, and sixteen to one in
Speaker 1: the postseason one loss, so you know against the great
Speaker 1: Lebron James didn't want to get swept. So yeah, Jackson,
Speaker 1: you asked, I don't know why this made the rundown.
Speaker 1: This is crazy. This is the stuff I have to
Speaker 1: deal with. You guys, fucking Celtics fan. Gotta be kidding me. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Moving on because my heart is hurting. Rest in peace
Speaker 1: to great Jerry West, passed away today at the age
Speaker 1: of eighty six. Worked in the NBA, has been in
Speaker 1: the NBA played an NBA coach executive since nineteen sixty which.
Speaker 3: Is thirty years prior to me being born.
Speaker 1: One time NBA champion as a player, eight time NBA
Speaker 1: champion as an executive. Nineteen sixty nine Finals MVP the
Speaker 1: only MVP of a series that they that the losing team.
Speaker 1: The MVP came from the losing team in the series,
Speaker 1: which you know you this man had to be cooking.
Speaker 1: Ten time All NBA First Team, fourteen time All Star
Speaker 1: famously said he would quit his job as a consultant
Speaker 1: for the Warriors if they traded Clay for Kevin Love.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can definitely believe that because logo is intense.
Speaker 1: But I must say I don't remember that being said,
Speaker 1: but like logo is as logo like, so I can
Speaker 1: believe that one of the most clutch players ever was
Speaker 1: a pioneer of the sport. And I had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to know him personally, uh, And he was such an
Speaker 1: incredible person, incredible man. And I think you know what
Speaker 1: I appreciated about the most. It's like you get in
Speaker 1: the truth whether you like it or not, Like you
Speaker 1: get in the truth. And he always, like I think,
Speaker 1: you know, he was a big supporter of me, and
Speaker 1: I've always been appreciative of that. And yet he was
Speaker 1: also extremely critical of me, and he'd voice that support
Speaker 1: to others, and he'd be critical of me to others,
Speaker 1: and he voiced that support to me, and he'd be
Speaker 1: critical of me.
Speaker 3: To me, And I always appreciated it because.
Speaker 1: A number one to have a conversation with the logo, like,
Speaker 1: you know, to ever even have that conversation was always
Speaker 1: special to me, Like that's the guy we grow up like,
Speaker 1: that's the logo, Like it's self explanatory, like we all
Speaker 1: see it, like we all know the the badge, like
Speaker 1: that's the logo like, and so number one just to
Speaker 1: have a conversation number number two, to be willing to
Speaker 1: support me, to uh coach me up in a sense,
Speaker 1: to give me advice, to stand up for me.
Speaker 3: I would always.
Speaker 1: And and to give his love to me. I'll always
Speaker 1: be appreciative of that. I mean he was, you know,
Speaker 1: to have him around the organ the Warriors organization the
Speaker 1: time that we had him, like you could feel his voice,
Speaker 1: you could always feel his presence, Like his presence in
Speaker 1: that organization was huge. You know, his his tutelage, like
Speaker 1: anytime you can have one of the best ever around,
Speaker 1: like the things that you just pick up, the knowledge
Speaker 1: that you pick up, the way that his voice carried.
Speaker 1: I think it was a huge help to everybody, Like
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the reasons that we
Speaker 1: had the success that we had. Obviously, you know Bob
Speaker 1: being as great as Bob was, and you know, our ownership, like,
Speaker 1: but having Logo around was huge because you just you
Speaker 1: get all that expertise and from evaluating talent from a
Speaker 1: draft possible excuse me, from a draft perspective, free agent perspective,
Speaker 1: building a team perspective like to to just have that
Speaker 1: type of knowledge around it was huge, and you know,
Speaker 1: to have his demeanor around like he took no shit
Speaker 1: from anybody, and he tell you in a heartbeat, like, oh, y'all, y'allesome, y'all,
Speaker 1: someome idiots like you guys don't know okay, and he
Speaker 1: just keeps saying okay, and like someone that holds you
Speaker 1: responsible the way he did. Ah, Like you can't replace
Speaker 1: those people in your life. Like those people, they're invaluable.
Speaker 1: And so I am extremely appreciative of my relationship with Logo,
Speaker 1: the times we've shared, sharing one of your sons with me. Johnny,
Speaker 1: who was a great, great, great friend of mine. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, me and Johnny have been with the Warriors
Speaker 1: for about the same amount of time. We've grown up
Speaker 1: in our professional lives in that organization together.
Speaker 3: And I know, hey, how much Johnny hurts and Ryan
Speaker 3: it's Karen. Uh send my love to them as.
Speaker 1: I know them extremely well personally, and then obviously uh
Speaker 1: to the other fellas. I send my love to all
Speaker 1: of them, Uh, but Johnny in particular, because like I said,
Speaker 1: we've been through uh, some incredibly incredibly high ups together
Speaker 1: and some incredibly low lows together. And you know, throughout
Speaker 1: all of that, the relationship, I won't say it's never
Speaker 1: wavered because it has. It's wavered one way, and that's
Speaker 1: to continue to grow no matter what the situation was.
Speaker 1: To have someone like Johnny in an organization like like
Speaker 1: these organizations, these are this is some of the top
Speaker 1: businesses in the world, like these organizations can be tricky
Speaker 1: to navigate. And to have someone like Johnny who's understood
Speaker 1: it from childhood and growing up in it as a
Speaker 1: friend to help you understand it and you know, to
Speaker 1: always keep a professional and not like I have a
Speaker 1: job to do, but there are some things that I
Speaker 1: can help you navigate just as a friend because I've
Speaker 1: seen X, Y and Z for so long and you know,
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to play arguably the best organization
Speaker 1: in the NBA. So it's not anything to navigate from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of like, oh, you're navigating your way.
Speaker 3: Through bullshit, because that's not the organization and I've been in.
Speaker 3: But how to grow.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: How to grow and remain true to yourself. You know.
Speaker 1: How to navigate certain conversations with certain people that you
Speaker 1: may need to have a conversation with how to approach
Speaker 1: different things, Like has always been one of those people
Speaker 1: that I could turn to and speak to and because
Speaker 1: of his expertise, although right around the same age, because
Speaker 1: of his expertise, because of his experience around it can
Speaker 1: give you a great answer from front Offics executive's perspective
Speaker 1: through the lens of a friend. It's just been incredible
Speaker 1: to me. And to see him go, like I know
Speaker 1: how close that bond was and to see Johnny go
Speaker 1: through what he's going through, it breaks my heart because
Speaker 1: Logo was the best. Like if you ever had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to interact with like he left you with something
Speaker 1: like when you finished in your interaction, you left with
Speaker 1: something more than you came with. And uh, not every
Speaker 1: day do you meet special people like that. So this
Speaker 1: has been a rough, rough few weeks in the NBA,
Speaker 1: losing uh some of our legends. You know, there's there's
Speaker 1: kind of always been like this, not always, but like
Speaker 1: at times, you know, you could feel like, man, some
Speaker 1: of the older guys don't support us the way like
Speaker 1: we would want them to support us like that you
Speaker 1: would hope they support us. Uh, you can sometimes feel
Speaker 1: like that, and it never felt that way with the logo.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he'd be extremely critical of you, but
Speaker 1: it came from a place that like want you to
Speaker 1: do better.
Speaker 3: It came from a place of Karen. And so just
Speaker 3: to have that.
Speaker 1: That those experiences with him, that I was able to
Speaker 1: have honored and I cherished him because I left with
Speaker 1: something better then I arrived with. And you know, to
Speaker 1: Johnny h Ryan Ms Karen, like I said, who I
Speaker 1: know extremely well personally, like I sent my love, it's
Speaker 1: a tough day. And you know, I think something that
Speaker 1: a lot of us don't think about when these things happen.
Speaker 3: Is like.
Speaker 1: There's one side of like seeing the outpour of love
Speaker 1: and support and feeling that and being thankful for that.
Speaker 1: There's another side of that of like it's in your
Speaker 1: face every day and like having to live and hold
Speaker 1: on to that every day, even in moments where your
Speaker 1: day may move forward and you're not thinking about it,
Speaker 1: Like you can quickly be reminded of it because it's
Speaker 1: all over social media, because you ride around and you
Speaker 1: see a mural and so as much as you appreciate that,
Speaker 1: I'll support the outpour of love. It can very much
Speaker 1: so be a burden, and you know it obviously is
Speaker 1: a gift and the curse that comes with the territory.
Speaker 1: But I just send my love to them because they'll
Speaker 1: continue to have to live that. And I'll continue to
Speaker 1: send my love and my well wishes to the family,
Speaker 1: but for everybody else out there, like, continue to send
Speaker 1: your love in a.
Speaker 3: Time of need.
Speaker 1: And I don't just mean that obviously to Logo's family,
Speaker 1: and you know, in a sense like when you got
Speaker 1: people that go through stuff, like you know, we tend to.
Speaker 3: Show our love and then forget and move on with
Speaker 3: our lives, and like they keep on going through that.
Speaker 3: So continue to sing your love.
Speaker 1: I'll continue to send my love RP to the right
Speaker 1: Jerry West the logo M man, He'll be missed and
Speaker 1: I'll definitely miss So that's a rap from this episode
Speaker 1: of The Draymond Green Show.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you tuning in this episode.
Speaker 1: We will have another episode of Champs Only on Friday
Speaker 1: with de Fish Derek Fisher, so make sure you subscribe.
Speaker 1: I think that will be our last Champs Only episode
Speaker 1: of this year until next time. That's a rap piece
Speaker 3: The volume