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Speaker 1: Episode five fourteen. It's Brandon Lancaster of Lanco. So it's

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Speaker 1: a great story of do you want to say redemption?

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys were crushing it and then basically

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Speaker 1: COVID hit like it did a lot of other artists

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Speaker 1: and I lost the record deal, change management. They had

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Speaker 1: to kind of start over, and Brandon talks about that

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Speaker 1: a lot. I really like Brandon, and it's crazy because

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Speaker 1: they've been nominated for so many awards like CNA's American

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Speaker 1: Music Awards ACMs, where they won New Duo Group of

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Speaker 1: the Year, and then just a couple of things went

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Speaker 1: wrong that snowballed, but now they are back. It's a

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Speaker 1: really great story here he is Brandon Lancaster, which is

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Speaker 1: how the band name Lanco came about. Of Lanco, Brandon,

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Speaker 1: good to see again, Buddy, good to see you. Although

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like I haven't seen you, because social

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Speaker 1: media exists in a way that you know, you kind

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Speaker 1: of feel.

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Speaker 2: Like you do CP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird because I don't know that you and

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Speaker 1: I have spent any time together in literally years at

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Speaker 1: this point, right.

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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think it'd be years. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's same thing. I feel like I know your life.

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Speaker 1: Because like when I walked down, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: my wife was like, who's down? It said, uh, Brandon,

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Speaker 1: this a friend of mine sings. She's like, I never

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Speaker 1: met him. And I was like, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: that I've seen you since I've been married.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Last time we did this, we did it up in

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Speaker 1: a tiny bedroom yep of a house across town. And

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Speaker 1: for you, that wasn't weird because I knew you. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes it'd be people that would come over to the

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Speaker 1: house and they have to like come into the house

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Speaker 1: and go upstairs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking back, that's a lot invasive, Mike.

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Speaker 3: It's our fault.

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Speaker 2: It was our fault.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird.

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Speaker 1: Right by your bedroom, yeah, walk by the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's first thing Brandon said.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, we did. Last time we did

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Speaker 1: this was in a small room. That's when it hit me.

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Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't seen you in a long time.

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Speaker 1: But welcome to the new studio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. Thanks for having me take a.

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Speaker 1: Dip in the pool if you'd like after it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of guests that what they say is if.

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Speaker 2: It's been a good interview.

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Speaker 1: They like to jump in the pool, so you let

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Speaker 1: me know at the end and you can jump right in.

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Speaker 4: How warm is the pool?

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Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Really, it might all right, it has to be a

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Speaker 3: really good interview.

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Speaker 1: If it's a nice plunge, it always is. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's see where do I want to start. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you've because I asked you how you been? You

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Speaker 1: said good bad in between. I feel like that's kind

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Speaker 1: of been. I don't know if you're talking about personal

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Speaker 1: or professional, but I know professionally. You know, you guys

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Speaker 1: come out and you have the big hit it's going

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 2: Or forever you're going to be.

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Speaker 1: And then did you did you'd lose your deal and management?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, how much do you want to get

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Speaker 4: into this?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean as much as you want to know

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Speaker 1: we can because the reason I want to get back

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Speaker 1: into it is because it's not like that anymore, because

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Speaker 1: it's been the complete op. Actually we have the same

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Speaker 1: agents sort of now. Yeah, so, but I kind of

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Speaker 1: wanted to go. We saw each other, it was going good.

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Speaker 1: And this is a testament of sometimes things don't go

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Speaker 1: right for a long time, but if you just keep

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Speaker 1: on going and you have the heart determination you're putting

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Speaker 1: in the work. I'm just gonna tell you where the

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Speaker 1: whole timeline of this interview is gonna go with me

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Speaker 1: that you push hard long enough eventually the rock moves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's and yeah, it's funny because seriously coming

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Speaker 3: here and like last time I did this was just

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Speaker 3: used to see you more often back then, just run

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Speaker 3: in the same circles. And it's just been anytime I

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Speaker 4: Time, and there there, you know how you've been.

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, since I last saw you, I've been

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Speaker 3: everything and the highs, highs, lows, loose and everything in between.

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Speaker 4: Beause that, you know, so kind of being funny.

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Speaker 3: But also yeah, I mean since I since I've seen

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Speaker 3: you last, since we've kind of done this, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had had a huge hit.

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Speaker 4: With Love Story.

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Speaker 3: It's like I don't know five it's a a hundred

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Speaker 3: quadrillion times spots or something. But uh, and then we

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Speaker 3: had Born to Love You after that and and really

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Speaker 3: sing that one. Uh it was born to Love You.

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Speaker 3: I could serve from South and North Born to love you.

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Speaker 1: Uh the do the Course melody though, Uh that's don't

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Speaker 1: don't sing it hard, but do it again. But you

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Speaker 1: were going to swirl from south north, but are found well.

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Speaker 3: Looking for wherever I go, whatever I do. It was

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Speaker 3: born to love you, was born I love you.

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Speaker 2: Got it, got it, got it, got all right.

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Speaker 3: We actually sang that on Dancing with the Stars. Uh

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Speaker 3: what the season you were on? Yeah, you didn't dance.

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Speaker 2: To I didn't dance I danced to Jansen, But you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that episode the country thing with like the plastic

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Speaker 1: Whole group dance with Platt and I remember getting so

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Speaker 1: frustrated at that because they were like, it's country night,

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Speaker 3: Guys, It's really not what it is.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah that was That was That was cool.

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Speaker 1: You guys do that, Okay, walk me through it.

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Speaker 4: So we do that. We put out that album.

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Speaker 3: That album debuted at number one on the album chart

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Speaker 4: And then toured us sold out our headline tour.

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Speaker 3: And that that's the beginning of Act two.

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Speaker 2: Really COVID that started the unraveling.

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Speaker 3: Oh dude, like, honey, and I hate here's the thing

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Speaker 3: I hate, especially in the season of my life.

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Speaker 4: I hate being woe is Me and I hate.

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Speaker 2: I don't take that as what was mean. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I literally asked you the question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a thing where it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, we were we were going and but we

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, you get the And then we started getting

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Speaker 1: Start to feel like because a lot of people went

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Speaker 1: when did you start to feel like, hey, we're kind

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Speaker 3: But once that single got pulled from from radio, then

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Speaker 4: And then they really did.

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Speaker 3: They kept hitting us with the social media thing, which

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Speaker 3: It seems like everyday life now, but the time, people

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Speaker 4: And it was just so different than what we had

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Speaker 3: And we would try, we'd try to make it work,

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Speaker 3: That was and I mean, this conversation all happened. It's like, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: because it's like a partnership. And so found that relationship

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Speaker 3: and then we did I mean we had because we

441
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Speaker 3: have a name, like if you people know Lanco, Like

442
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,399
Speaker 3: that's one thing I've learned that's just crazy, you know,

443
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 3: moving out side of the city and just kind of

444
00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 3: living a normal life.

445
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,960
Speaker 4: My daughter's and.

446
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,720
Speaker 3: Like a little school, you know, and we talk to parents.

447
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 3: You're like, oh man, people like people know Lanco, and

448
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 3: so the industry knows Lanco. So there were labels like

449
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 3: even from day one that were kind of intered that

450
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 3: you go get coffee, you'd go to the meetings, you go.

451
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 3: But then finally we played a show and Jennifer Johnson

452
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 3: from Riserhouse was there and just jumped on, I mean

453
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 3: just all in pretty much immediately, and so that was

454
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 3: really exciting.

455
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Speaker 2: I was a new.

456
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Speaker 3: Team, more on the independent side, which was fun, but

457
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 3: not so independent that it was independent because there's some

458
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 3: success there. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. And so that's the

459
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 3: thing that's always and that's like a perfect medium for me,

460
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 3: is if you can find it's not this huge corporation

461
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 3: you know, controlled by New York or whatever. You know,

462
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: it's like if it's it's it's in house, but there's

463
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 3: also connections and it's big enough there can be there

464
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 3: can be movement and all the connections there, all the

465
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 3: relationships are there that are important, and.

466
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: There can be leverage with other successful acts.

467
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 2: Who else is on Riserhouse.

468
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 3: So Mitchell tim Penny is with has A has a

469
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 3: joint partnership with with Riser and then uh Sony and

470
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: then Megan Patrick Deal and Carmichael and then they're also

471
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: a publishing house too, so they have they've got writers

472
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 3: that have written I mean Landy Wilson, John Party and

473
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 3: Luke Combs with you know, just so they're they're in

474
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 3: the game for sure.

475
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Speaker 1: And that's the benefit of having somebody that has some

476
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Speaker 1: leverage because they have other artists that they can for

477
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, trade in and out, meaning

478
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: they could also use you, right, they have new artists like, yeah,

479
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,719
Speaker 1: we can get Chu Lanco, but you have to take

480
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: on Jimmy Johnson here and let him do so that

481
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: that's part of the part.

482
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: Of the business as well.

483
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Speaker 1: So, okay, you have this hungry I won't say new

484
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: but new ish but semi established label. You have a manager.

485
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Speaker 1: Do you have an agent?

486
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 4: Yes, we have an agent.

487
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: Did you have an agent?

488
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 4: We had an agent we yes.

489
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: Now we have a new agent, yes, all new.

490
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 4: Did you get all new team?

491
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Speaker 3: Did you get dropped by your agency?

492
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: No?

493
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 3: It was another it's an I don't know how in

494
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 3: the weeds I want to get It's another thing where

495
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: it's those it's those conversations where it's like, you know,

496
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: maybe another relationship, just you want that hunger that fire,

497
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: and you want to be kind of it's nice and

498
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 3: entertainment if you can be.

499
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 4: It's sometimes it's nice to be the shiny new toy.

500
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to also feel wanted and feel like

501
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: there's a tension being put on you. Like I was

502
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: at CIA for a long time and it was great.

503
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: And my first agent was a new agent when I

504
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: was getting my first agent, and that was awesome because

505
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: we came up together and I was like one of

506
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Speaker 1: her first clients and we were together for like twelve years.

507
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Speaker 1: But she started to get really successful in like the

508
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Speaker 1: news political space, and she was out of New York.

509
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: She was amazing, but she was growing so fast in

510
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: that area that really wasn't the area that I needed

511
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: to have my work done.

512
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: I didn't need in Nashville. I was fine here.

513
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: My was in LA. So they had like a secondary

514
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: agent at CEA and I was not paid much attention to.

515
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: Is this kind of an afterthought?

516
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's tough.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, we kind of had the same situation where

518
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: you're almost starting with someone and you're growing, but then

519
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: the reality is as you're kind of going down this

520
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: mountain and you're trying to figure it out and pick

521
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: up the pieces their career. They're still yeah, they've now

522
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 3: got other things. Yeah, sometimes they don't match, yeah, And

523
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 3: it is what it is.

524
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Speaker 1: So I left. I left CIA, yeah, because I wasn't

525
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was being prioritized enough and

526
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Speaker 1: it was a difficult decision to make. And I remember

527
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Speaker 1: I did a thing where I was talking to a

528
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: bunch of agencies and you know, for a second, it's

529
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: fun because everybody's like, I want to have a meeting

530
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: and telling you what they can offer you. And but

531
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: I ended up and you'll see where this this come

532
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: back around to you. I ended up signing with an

533
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Speaker 1: agency that was one of the big agencies, not as

534
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: big as CAA, CIA and William Worse were like the monsters, right,

535
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: they're the big ones. But I signed with an agency

536
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: that was big but not as big, but felt hungry

537
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: because they were not as big.

538
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: And that was UTA.

539
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: And so for that reason, it kind of like when

540
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: you talk about signing with the Riserhouse. That's why I

541
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: signed with my agent now, because could I have picked

542
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: a bigger agent out of New York in LA That

543
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: for sure, yes, But I also felt like at times

544
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: I was getting lost in the mix because I wasn't

545
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: always in front of their eyeballs. So but my relationship

546
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: with Uta has been excellent. Yeah, so that's and I

547
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: saw a picture the other day with view of Lanka

548
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: with Uta.

549
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't.

550
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 4: I didn't.

551
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know you're at Uta any talk about that more.

552
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm already I'm now getting mad. They're not telling everybody.

553
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, that speaks to them that they're Their

554
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 3: pitch is like, hey, this is what we really want

555
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: you to want to work for you, and this is

556
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: this is our plan and our strategy. And we're excited

557
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: about two thousand tickets sold as opposed to wea, you

558
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: did two thousand tickets, but these people did twenty thousand.

559
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: Twice last night.

560
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 5: You know.

561
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 4: It's like and so yeah, I love it over there.

562
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: And it's been but no, I love We have a

563
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: new team and new energy and we are it is

564
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: kind of a version two point zero, but it's been.

565
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 4: It's it's been fun to tackle this again.

566
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: But even with different perspective, different life perspective, different even

567
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: sitting here doing this right now, I remember doing this

568
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: ten years ago.

569
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: I remember my feeling.

570
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: I remember how I felt about I remember, and I

571
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: remember back then being nervous about everything because I so

572
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: felt that like every moment, my entire life was hinging

573
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: on it. Where now that's true, it's very important, but

574
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: it's also my career. I also have, you know, like

575
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: right now, my family's at the zoo and I'm like, oh, yeah,

576
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'll finish it. It might meet you

577
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: all there, because that's also important to me. So a

578
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: little healthier perspective now, and yeah, I've just grown up

579
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: a little more a little.

580
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: But you also know what you want, what you don't want. Yeah,

581
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: you also know what worked and what didn't work. It

582
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: doesn't mean to won't working in a different time, but

583
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: at least you have gained what is kind of the

584
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: most expensive to gain, and that it's perspective. You said

585
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: the word perspective is the hardest thing to get because

586
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: you don't get it because it's fun. Yeah, you get

587
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: perspective because it was kind of forced upon you. But

588
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: it is also the most valuable. So once you have

589
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: a like, cool, I got it, man. Sure we shouldn't

590
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: have to go through that to get it, but you

591
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: have it, right, and so you treat everything differently some

592
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: things are more precious, some things aren't nearly as precious,

593
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: and you learn not every single little thing can take

594
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: your whole world down. Yeah, that's what so reminds me

595
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: of Like as a new artist, you're like, oh my god,

596
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure that I could get this exactly right,

597
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: get that exactly right.

598
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, hang tight, The Bobby Cast will be right back,

599
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

600
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Your record is called We're not Gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna,

601
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it. Yeah, I think we don't think.

602
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Marry telling Moore first time I saw it,

603
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: because that theme song goes.

604
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna make it after.

605
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: So we're gonna make it. I'm assuming that's kind of

606
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: about that.

607
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's the title track

608
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: the album, because really this album, this is you know,

609
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: years in the making, and it's our life. Like our

610
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: first album, Halle Andights was so autobiographical. It's so where

611
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: we were and where we were headed, and you know,

612
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: and it was even like the biggest song on that record,

613
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: Greatest Love Story, and the even Born to Love You.

614
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: It's this coming of age discovering love and what that

615
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: means and then this you know, as much as social

616
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: media as a thing and and all of that, there

617
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: is an aspect where with your fans, the way that

618
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 3: you communicate to them is through your music. That's how

619
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 3: they get to know you, and that's how they have

620
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: this relationship with you. And so we wanted the different

621
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: pieces of our lives to be on this record. And

622
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: when you know we we're gonna make it, actually the

623
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: last song we recorded for the record, and when you

624
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: listen to the record, you realize there is this theme

625
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: of ups and downs and trial and tribulation and good

626
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: times but also some really hard times, and through it

627
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: all there was this theme in our personal lives of

628
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: we're going to make it out of this valley. We're

629
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: in a valley right now, We're gonna make it to

630
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 3: that hilltop, and we're gonna look back and be better

631
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: because of it. And so that's a yeah, it kind

632
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: of summarized the whole album.

633
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Reminds me of the story of the king that had

634
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: this too shall Pass ring, and when times are really tough,

635
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: he would look at the ring and he'd remind himself,

636
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: this too shall pass.

637
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: Hang in.

638
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: But when times were amazing, he would look at the

639
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: ring and go, this too shall pass, So treasure it

640
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: because in the future it will not be like this,

641
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: and so this too shall pass. Was always the theme,

642
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: and it wasn't to not appreciate and value what's happening now.

643
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: It was to have an understanding and perspective of how

644
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: quickly things can change, but when they change, and if

645
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: they do change, they can change back. Based on as

646
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: I mentioned at the very beginning of this, like if

647
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: you work hard enough and long enough and smart enough,

648
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: you can move the rock.

649
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes the rocks heavier. Yeah, sometimes the.

650
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: Rock's not very heavy at all. But if you work

651
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: long enough, hard enough and smart enough, you can move

652
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: the rock. I think about you guys when riding. Do

653
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: you guys pull many outside writers to write with you?

654
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: And why I asked that is because that's a lot

655
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: of people, that's a lot of cutters. You gave to

656
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: cut a song like five or six different ways?

657
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we do everything everything in between.

658
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: So like we have a song called Low Class Lovers

659
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: on the record, that's a solo right that. I just

660
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: wrote that one by myself after going out with my

661
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: wife on a date night and fell out of place.

662
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: In the environment that I was in and wrote a

663
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: song about it, and then like Honey, out's my job today.

664
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: I actually wrote that one by myself, but then Jeremy Spilman.

665
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: It was such a heavy topic to discuss unemployment, especially

666
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: when yes, it was scary for me and I didn't

667
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: know the future, but there also were people that were

668
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: in way worse situations than me, so kind of like

669
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: being a poster child having a song like that, I

670
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: felt like a heavy responsibility. So I brought Jeremy into

671
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: make like, hey, you help me work on this song

672
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: and word it right. Then there are times where it's

673
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: the whole band, and you know, we bring in one

674
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: writer and we may just start jamming in the studio

675
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: literally just having like band practice and come up with

676
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: a vibe and so on, that's a cool idea and

677
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 3: we just start singing. So it's everything, everything all in between.

678
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: What about other guys, Do they write themselves for other artists?

679
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

680
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Chandler's actually it all right right now, and

681
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: yeah everyone Chandler trip and Jared all right, and then

682
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: Jared's like a writer.

683
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Producer and that's never caused any sort of issue. No,

684
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: you do, do you encourage that.

685
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, I you know, Lanco's a

686
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: Landco's a thing. It's a specific thing. And it doesn't

687
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: mean that there's a lot of songs that I hear

688
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: on the radio or whatever that I'm like, oh that

689
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: could Landco could have sang this, So you know, there's

690
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: but it's a specific enough thing that we know the

691
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: goal we're trying to achieve, and we're together and working

692
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: on a Lanco thing. And and if they're working, I

693
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: think they like it too because it gives them an

694
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: outlet because there are things that we just wouldn't sing

695
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: or they're just not our vibe, even sonically, and it

696
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 3: gives everyone an outlet to be able to do that.

697
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Do you ever think about doing even a couple of

698
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: songs by yourself and its sounding completely different than Lanco?

699
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: That'd be the only reason you would do it. Yeah,

700
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: But it's like I want to do this garage rock, Yeah,

701
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: a couple of songs. Do you ever think about that?

702
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And that's something I'd like to do

703
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: and I think would be cool just to see because

704
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: I love love love, I mean, it's literally the I have.

705
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: There's one reason I fight so hard for is because

706
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: I have the best job in the world because I

707
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: get to be creative and I get to go with

708
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: my best friends and create with them, and it's really fun.

709
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: But there's a thing where I have my own a

710
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: cool thing about land because we all have different influences

711
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: and sonic influences and we can all throw that into

712
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: kind of the pot, and that is Lanco. But yeah,

713
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: it'd be interesting. I've definitely thought about and I've talked

714
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: like it. You know, it's not like a secret. At

715
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: some point, I could see myself just you and I

716
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: just recorded in like my little home studio and just

717
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: throw it out, you know who you know, just this

718
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: is me?

719
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Uh like if you like a trip onto a hip

720
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: hop album, yeah, or hip hop couple of tracks?

721
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I could see that like letter rip right, Yeah, yeah,

722
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: I don't if any I mean, you know, we're land

723
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: Co's a thing, but we also are all artists in

724
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: our own right. We all have our own creative outlets

725
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: and if yeah, I mean, yeah, whatever, just create.

726
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: What are you doing for fun?

727
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: What am I doing for fun? I'm trying to raise

728
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: two children, which is the most fun thing but also

729
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: the hardest thing.

730
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: I've ever done in my life.

731
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: If not that, I don't know, man' pretty basic all.

732
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: I used to fish a lot. That's gotten harder, trip

733
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: and I used to, like seriously fish, Like tournaments.

734
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Don't get you that, you guys tournament fish.

735
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's specially due that was a big thing during

736
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: the pandemic. We like got it was us. Morgan Wallen

737
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: was out there like these little fishing tournaments.

738
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: So is it one because I've early earlier version of

739
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: my life.

740
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: I used to fish the tournaments and all the boats

741
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: would lunch, are on the same It's just like go

742
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: and all the boats launched. So that kind of you

743
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: guys were fishing in real tournament.

744
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, bass tournaments. Oh yeah, we we came in second.

745
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: We never we never won, never brought it home.

746
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: To put the little weights in. I know, puts in

747
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: the f man.

748
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: There's that's there's some sketchy stuff that started frustrating me.

749
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: It's kind of like golf too. It's the thing where

750
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, I know that I'm not the best,

751
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: but I know some of y'all are not beating me.

752
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: But no, I go.

753
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: I try to golf and then man, just real basic stuff.

754
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean, well, you know, I still try to have

755
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: friends over, like just have fires and and but golf

756
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: is a is an outlet for sure, not good at it,

757
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: but try just get out. You haven't gotten pickleball yet, no,

758
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: so I actually man, pickleball is tough though, because it's

759
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: it's like golf. You can go, you can get with

760
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: the group buddies, but you also can go and do

761
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: it by yourself or just go to the driving something pickleball.

762
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: I love pickleball. I've had a hard time coordinating getting.

763
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: People together to do it.

764
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Okay, fair, I would meet that with because I used

765
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: to play a lot of golf, but I I don't

766
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: want to be that guy. But I'm a bagga for

767
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: a second. I don't have four hours anymore. Yeah yeah,

768
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: it sucks.

769
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

770
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: And I'm a member of a club and I haven't

771
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: been to the club in eight months. Yeah yeah, And

772
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: so I'm paym a DU's and I love it, but

773
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't have four hours. Or by the time I

774
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: drive fifteen minutes to the club and I get on

775
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: the range and hit thirty minutes, then I drive back

776
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: that that hour's gone. Where I can just I have

777
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: a court here at the house. If I get I

778
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: get an hour workout at and play pickleba. Yeah, we

779
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: have to play with who do you play? Like?

780
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: Great point.

781
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: That's why you hire people that are your friends and

782
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: then you go so like today Reid and I are

783
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna play, Uh, asked Brandon, and Brandon was already away

784
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: over here and he had closed. He's like, I'm in

785
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: jeans and but yes, I could see where coordinating the

786
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: other person.

787
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: I guess my thing was time. I just have the time.

788
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like man if I could get I I

789
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: literally I went through a pickleball phase like the end

790
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: of last year, and I'm like, this is my new identity.

791
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna be one of those guys. But yeah,

792
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: it was just tough fun with people I love. I

793
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: also like pickleball because golf is fun, but I do

794
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: like I was like to play basketball. And there was

795
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: a game that was going on a lot with a

796
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: bunch of like songwriter and artists stuff in town like

797
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: Gordon as.

798
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we played over there once together there Travis that pandemic. Yeah,

799
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: oh it's for Travis's video. It's for like a content shoot.

800
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: They always played like nine o'clock I'll get a call,

801
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Hey we're playing again?

802
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Okay, what time?

803
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: Nine pm?

804
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: Like as don't you know?

805
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I wake up? But like butt whole o'clock. Yeah, there's

806
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: no chance.

807
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: So you're not playing basketball anymore.

808
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: And that game, I you know, I just texted, uh

809
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: texted one of the guys in that in that group,

810
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: and I don't know. I lose, Like is there a

811
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: new game? I texted the John Chris goes out there

812
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: and plays. I text shandals like is there do I

813
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: get kicked out of the chat? Like is there a game?

814
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: I don't know about? But it seems like it's it's

815
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: just now that you want to talk about coordinating people,

816
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: that's a lot of you need like fifteen people because

817
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: unless yeah, so that's tough. But I like pickleball because

818
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: it's active. I like, you know, you're breathing hard, you're sweating,

819
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: you endorphins are going.

820
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: How far do you live from here?

821
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: Uh? It took me thirty minutes.

822
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's too far for what to invite you?

823
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: Dude, I drive here, I gotn't. I drive every day

824
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: and that's that's pretty far. We'll move if it means

825
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: having a pickleball got yeah, And we're moving out for sure.

826
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll invite you to come play because we I mean,

827
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: we're always looking to.

828
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Have people over to play. Let's do it.

829
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: That's been the heart is just finding if if but

830
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: no driving thirty minutes. That's that's kind of I did

831
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: it on because I used to live in East Nashville.

832
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: We moved out and I live like a half hour

833
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: outside of the city. But it's very it's very normal

834
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: to me to for rights and I'm gonna come to

835
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: town a lot.

836
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: So I got thirty minutes is forever.

837
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: I can tell you, Yeah, I can tell you you

838
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: You get to bring people to your world.

839
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: That's for the most part. We all still go into

840
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: the studio, the downtown studio. But you're talking about I

841
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: George work and nobody's on the road. So it's nine minutes,

842
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: yeah to get downtown. And then I mostly don't leave

843
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: unless for anything, Yeah, unless I'm traveling to go somewhere. Yeah,

844
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: because we'll work here out of here. I got a

845
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: gym trainer comes here, like pick a ball back there.

846
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: Vet comes here. That's our friend though, that's our close friends.

847
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: So that way you just need to have So what

848
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: you're saying is I need to you to make sure

849
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: all your friends.

850
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. My Vet is my friend. However, she

851
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: was a VET before a friend. I think I didn't.

852
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't our friend walk she went to VET school.

853
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: I met her, my wife actually met her. But she

854
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: does a podcast now for us too, doctor Josie. But yeah,

855
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: that's right, all my Yeah. Somehow I either hire all

856
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: my friends or people that I work closely with, I

857
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: make on my friend.

858
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: That way I never have to leave my I get that.

859
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: I try to that I'm in a band. I yeah

860
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: that too. Well you're saying I need to hit up

861
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: our crew and get them to play.

862
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: Or hire new crew that you would like to play

863
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: sports with. That's that's the thing. Like Brandon for example,

864
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: Brandon Ray who's over there, and Brandon has been one

865
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: of my closest friends for a decade and one of

866
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: those friends where you don't have to see them every week.

867
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: You know. I have friends like that from college who

868
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: I would be like, you need a kidney. I'm still

869
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: here with you, but you don't talk. But you do

870
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: have those friendships. But Brandon is a plus singer, a

871
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: plus player, players with raging idiots. When we do our

872
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: charity stuff, plays guitar, and Reid has been my guy

873
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: doing all my digital for five years. Like Reid was

874
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: a pup and emailed me and was like, I like

875
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: to do some videos for you.

876
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: That's his voice, Yeah, it's pretty much.

877
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

878
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 4: Well I haven't heard him talk yet.

879
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: But he doesn't.

880
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: But when he does hit, I was like, dudn okay.

881
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: And so I didn't know him, but he was a

882
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: kid from Arkansas, and I was like, I'll probably related,

883
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: So I go ahead and hire you. You're from Texas,

884
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: you get it. Yeah, And so my cousin, Yeah, I

885
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: hired him, and he's been here for five years, right,

886
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: and and everybody going travels with me, but he's does

887
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: photos and videos and we go and we do shows

888
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: and like he's just been like at my hip for

889
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: for the last five years. And so Read's like, Read goes, well,

890
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I gotta move, Like where you move? Are you?

891
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

892
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: You gotta move.

893
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: I gotta move to Saint Louis. Saint Louis.

894
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: His wife's about to be a doctor, got to a medicool.

895
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: So Reads leaving, I'm looking for a new person right

896
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: to run the digital operation, which has become big, you

897
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: know how this sometimes it just grows and you look

898
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: down and you're like, oh man, this is actually quite robust.

899
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: And if that person's gone, we're So. I was interviewing

900
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of people and Brandon, who was writing all

901
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: this sync music for like TV shows and commercials, hits

902
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: me up and he's like, hey, would you ever think

903
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: about me for that job? And I was like, no, sure, what, No,

904
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: not at all. I never thought And so ended up

905
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: hiring Brandon. And so now Brandon's doing this, So I

906
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: guess I just hired another friend.

907
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: I guess I perfect keep it. That's I'm just giving you.

908
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, keeping the family your friends. Yeah, I love that.

909
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, then they come over you. My wife is always like,

910
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: who are you hiring now? And I'm like, don't worry

911
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: a friend, you already already know them.

912
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

913
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: the Bobby Cast.

914
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: Did your wife ever while with you on the road? Yes? Yeah,

915
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: two kids. Yeah, we bring the kids too. We're we're

916
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: traveling circus, man. We yeah, like just a few weeks ago,

917
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 3: and especially we'll work it now. Like they do seem

918
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: to go places like they came on the road.

919
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: A few weeks ago because we were in Florida.

920
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: Uh so like Sarasota and Tampa and like that bus

921
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: road or they fly so both so they so they

922
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 3: flew let me think how they Okay, So they flew

923
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: the Florida one.

924
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: They flew to Florida.

925
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: We have family in Florida, they say with and then

926
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: they just like met us there and then a few

927
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: and then the last week of the tour Northeast, they

928
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: flew to Boston fam or she has my in law

929
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: or my sister in law's family is from Boston area.

930
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: So it flew up stay with them, then hopped on

931
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: the bus with us, went to Buffalo, and then busted

932
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: down to Nashville with us. And yeah, my, my, we

933
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: have some bunks open, so my daughter just jumps in

934
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: a little bunk and then we set up like a

935
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: pack and play thing in the back and my wife

936
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: sleeps back there with it. It's yeah, make it work,

937
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: just carnies.

938
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Whenever you decided to go back on the road, which

939
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: inevitably you knew what you would do, a bit nervous

940
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: put tickets back out there.

941
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, terrified and what was so weird at that time?

942
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: That was still we went out, start going out, and

943
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: like end of twenty one, twenty and then twenty two

944
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: that was still the whole country handled that whole thing differently.

945
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: So we might play in like Montana and it'd be

946
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: like thousand people like, oh we're back baby. Then we'd

947
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: go play a show and there's like seventeen people at

948
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: tables cause it was just the vibe was still, and

949
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: people like, I'm not going out to a shit and so,

950
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 3: and then that we would play shows like is it us?

951
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Is it the world? Is it the We just couldn't

952
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: get a because here's a thing that was really weird

953
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: about our career. Everyone, unless you're like George Straight, there

954
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: are some that get to hack this and don't, but

955
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: everyone does. Eventually you do have that last and even

956
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: George Straight, you have that last hit, that last single,

957
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: and then you start you do get a phone call like, hey,

958
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 3: it's not you know, they're not biting, it's not reacting.

959
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: You know it's and then you get to if you're huge,

960
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: you get to choose like are we going to be legacy?

961
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, what are we going to do? Or for

962
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: most artists, you have this career and then you have

963
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: a song and it doesn't any You try again and

964
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: it and you go from say you're doing five thousand

965
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: tickets to them maybe you're doing thirty five to two

966
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: and you it.

967
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: But it's years of this, like you're seeing it.

968
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: We went from like top of the world selling out

969
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: in different cun trees.

970
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: Two we play a show and there's fifteen pe and like, wait, is.

971
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: This because of us or the world or did we

972
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: fall off that hard or what is it? And it

973
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: was a really weird whiplash because it wasn't a fair representation.

974
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: We didn't know where we were.

975
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: We didn't know like do people do we have fans

976
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: out there? And so that was a that was definitely

977
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: a really scary process and and what'd you find out?

978
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: What was it?

979
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: Then?

980
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: I think it was, I mean, we definitely found we

981
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: found that we still i mean we sold out shows

982
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: on this We have not had like a hit, like

983
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: a number one song in like eight years, and we

984
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: still can go to certain markets and you know, clear

985
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: thousand tickets and sell out and we go to a

986
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: lot of these you know exit in type venues and

987
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: sell it out. And that was honestly, even at the time,

988
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: that was still like around. You know, we're kind of

989
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: we somehow do have this fan base that really a

990
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: lot of people know it's for Grace Love Story, but

991
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: like our fans, they'll sing the other songs and they'll

992
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: talk to us about how these other songs have impacted them.

993
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: And so we still have this fan base. We can

994
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: go out and do our thing. Now it's just trying

995
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: to capitalize on that and grow from there and kind

996
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: of relaunch.

997
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, you talked about a song you wrote on

998
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: this record by yourself, which was Low Class Lovers. So

999
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: first I'm gonna ask you about that. Where were you

1000
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: with your wife where you're like, we don't belong?

1001
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: Why I don't everyone it's called it.

1002
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: It was a restaurant in Green Hills and part of

1003
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: the not belonging thing too. That was our first time

1004
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: going out after having a baby and with the COVID,

1005
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: so we had been like living in sweatpants and like

1006
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: it was the first time we'd like seen society went out,

1007
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: so we already felt, you know, it's like, oh okay,

1008
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: like out in the world. And then also, yeah, we'd

1009
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: been like living in sweatpants and just chilling, and now

1010
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: we're like a you know, white tablecloths, whatever, and it

1011
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: was it was really nice, but it was you know,

1012
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: things on the menu. You're like a kind of a cheeseburger,

1013
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: like I don't know. I'm sure it's good, but I

1014
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: don't know if I want the whatever type of eggs

1015
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: as a garnish on that thing.

1016
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: When you write a song by yourself, that one specifically,

1017
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: when you done, you really can't send it and have

1018
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: somebody give you critiques or changes, right, because then they.

1019
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: Co wrote it.

1020
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you know fine line.

1021
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, you know, I think that my process

1022
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: of that is if I write a song that I

1023
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: think is cool, I'll take it to the guys and

1024
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: be like and then they're they generally don't yeah, they

1025
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: don't try to like get in on it and be like,

1026
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, well maybe if the second verse, it's like

1027
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: this is when I wrote yeah or nay, because I

1028
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: do bring like a pretty much completed thing and it's

1029
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: like is this cool or not? And that one was

1030
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: cool like on guitar, And then we got in the

1031
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: studio and I told Jay he produced that one. I

1032
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: was like, I want this to be like a Bohemian

1033
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: rhapste like this up and down and in and it

1034
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: just this kind of this. He kept calling it my opus.

1035
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: And so once we start in the studio attacking it

1036
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: like that, it.

1037
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: Just became really fun.

1038
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, will they ever say nay, Yeah, if you

1039
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: bring in the song by yourself, you're like, this is it,

1040
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: they'll go and naw, I don't think this is it.

1041
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: They never say that. They'll say that could be cool.

1042
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 3: But now you know what that means exactly. So you know, God,

1043
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: what about Greatest Love Story?

1044
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: When you wrote?

1045
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: You wrote that by yourself?

1046
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1047
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: What was that?

1048
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 2: Did you? Did you write that before them? I wrote

1049
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: that around.

1050
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: The time we'd start as a band, but I had

1051
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: a bun I'd written all the songs like and had

1052
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 3: these songs I wanted to put a band around it.

1053
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: And so that was one I wrote right as it

1054
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: was forming, and we had finished rehearsal and we were

1055
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: on this back patio and I was we were like,

1056
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: what do we do you know, cause we kind of

1057
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: practice the songs, and uh, I was like, I kind

1058
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: of I wrote this little thing and I wrote it

1059
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: played like the first chorus, and everyone was like, yeah,

1060
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: that's cool. And so we just went right in and

1061
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: started putting music to it. Yeah, they liked that one.

1062
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: What do you chase now?

1063
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Meaning there are like eight versions of finger quote success,

1064
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: There's lots of streams, there's viral, there's radio, there's and

1065
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: one or two of them without the others is great. Yeah,

1066
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: because it cut right. There's many ways to cut, but

1067
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: you almost have to pick your lanes that you chase

1068
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: because if you're chasing all day, if you're chasing eight rabbit,

1069
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: you're not going to catch any of them. Yeah, Like

1070
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: what are you guys as a band, Like, what are

1071
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: you chasing?

1072
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'd say I'd say, you know, for the for

1073
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: the past few years, we've been focusing on like building

1074
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: socials and then and streaming and that's you know, and

1075
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 3: that's how people consume music. Uh, Like they're not buying

1076
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: CDEs as much anymore, you know, if at all. So

1077
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: that's part of it. But I would say, I mean,

1078
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: right now we really are.

1079
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: We have an.

1080
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: Opportunity to be at radio and go because that does

1081
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: take I mean, that takes a team of people around

1082
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: you as far as like the industries, because like you

1083
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: have to have a radio team and stuff, and right

1084
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: now we have that and they're really great, and it

1085
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: does get to put you out in front of an audience,

1086
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: and it does put you in a lane of when

1087
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: you're looking at those festivals and you're looking at these

1088
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: tours like that is kind of a qualifier.

1089
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: It is an investment though, when I say Chase to

1090
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: do that version, to do the radio version, you got

1091
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: to be places. Yeah, And that's time and effort and money.

1092
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: Yes, So okay, the thing is so the thing is

1093
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: with us, Like I wish that I was a talented

1094
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: enough content creator that I just knew because it is

1095
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: an art form, like they know the lighting, getting the back,

1096
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: like they just know. Like I know artists that are

1097
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: so good at that and they don't feel silly doing it.

1098
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: I also know artists that honestly feel a little silly

1099
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 3: on stage, and they where I don't I feel silly

1100
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: like pointing to nothing and then putting captions over it.

1101
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: They don't. I don't feel silly on stage. I don't

1102
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: care if it's at some event where there's twenty people.

1103
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: This is like, this is my home, and so I

1104
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: don't mind. Like I like going out on the road

1105
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: and playing shows and even going into a station and

1106
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: playing some songs I like talking. I like hanging out.

1107
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: So for me, that's a that's a I don't mind

1108
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: at all investing my time there and even you know,

1109
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: going to these cities and playing shows and partnering with

1110
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: with radio. H it's I like, it's a partnership. Hey,

1111
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: you give us some you know, like you we give

1112
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: each other attention, and we work together and you're playing

1113
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: our music and we, you know, come out of the

1114
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: show and let's hang and meet your listeners or you know,

1115
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: whatever it is.

1116
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: You're right about qualifiers in the way.

1117
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: Of their different qualifiers for the different rabbits.

1118
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I'll just use rabbits as you know, the analogy here

1119
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: that's chasing rabbits. Like if you have a top ten,

1120
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: top five, number one song on radio, that is a

1121
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: qualifier for festivals, that is a qualifier for award shows.

1122
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: If you have one hundred million streams, if you have

1123
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: there's a number, there's a qualifying number. If you have

1124
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: this many followers, but you don't have the radio, like,

1125
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: that's a qualifier. And it's like the more qualifiers you

1126
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: can have, the more qualified the people that are making

1127
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: the decisions think you are right right, yeah, and so

1128
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: and if I and I have friends of mine that

1129
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: have chosen to try them all at once, and it

1130
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: never works when they try to do them all with

1131
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: the ut most priority, because priorities aren't doing everything the same. Yeah,

1132
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: but you can literally just be a streaming artist and

1133
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: crush and do everything anybody else can do, if that's

1134
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: what you have dedicated, if that's the rabbit, you were

1135
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: totally into. Same thing with being viral, if you're like

1136
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about a social media artist and I'm not

1137
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: even saying that as any sort of slide, No, of

1138
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: course not. If that's your thing and you have four

1139
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: and a half million followers and you have videos that

1140
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: are doing three four hundred thousand every time, that's a

1141
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: freaking qualifier as much as anything else is. So it's

1142
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: interesting to see the roads that people go down. But

1143
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: what's crazy about you is most people that would talk

1144
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: like you would be older. You're young. You just did

1145
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: it way early and you got to go through a

1146
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of trials and tribulations young, so you have the

1147
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: perspective of someone that's a lot older.

1148
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1149
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean that's the thing where for me,

1150
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: it's everything you know, you don't they're all opportunities like

1151
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: social media's a opportunity, it's a marketing opportunity, put yourself

1152
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: out there. You get to communicate and use it as

1153
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: a way to communicate with your fans. Streaming is, you know,

1154
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: a big way that people invest in music and consume music,

1155
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: and that's great. And then yeah, radio it's it's it's

1156
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: still a platform that that people really invest in and

1157
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: pay attention to. And and especially you know, I think

1158
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: even you know, a country music demographic a lot, it's

1159
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: still getting their work.

1160
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 4: They go, they can still get in.

1161
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: Their car and go to work, and more so than

1162
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: any other formul Yeah, and turn that on and I

1163
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: even find myself there's times where yeah, I can like

1164
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm in the driveway trying to find something, but it's

1165
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: I end up doing this with TV. I'm just scrolling

1166
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: trying to find something. It's easier for me to just

1167
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: turn on all right, you know, and what's on the radio,

1168
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 3: and and it definitely has an impact and it's a yeah,

1169
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: but I don't know, it's it's I've we've we've pursued

1170
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: it all. We've had success and all I mean, we've

1171
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: had some songs of and it's interesting too This is

1172
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: a hard thing too. There's songs that stream really well

1173
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: that will not work at in the country music space

1174
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: at radio, you know, and and vice versa even and

1175
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: so it's it's a crazy puzzle that that I know

1176
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: a lot about. I don't have the crystal or the

1177
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: magic answer it, and I don't think anybody does what

1178
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: they did then they would be uh, yeah, I don't know.

1179
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

1180
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: This is the Bobby Cast.

1181
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: Who do you look at? And I give you an

1182
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: example as I asked the question to give you time

1183
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: to think. This is an interview technique called I will

1184
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: ask you a difficult question, then I will talk for

1185
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: a second to give you time to think about an answer. Yeah,

1186
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: who do you see? And you go, man, how they

1187
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: strategize that. That's pretty freaking cool. I give you an example.

1188
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: Drew Baldridge, who who had it all fell off, like

1189
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: it all fell off for him and really with no options,

1190
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: dude's playing backyards. One social media video blows up and

1191
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: he's like, well, crap, I'll just do this over and

1192
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: over again. Well, I really don't know how to do

1193
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: a label. And since no label will sign me off,

1194
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: figure it out, creates his own label, hires his own

1195
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: independent and did it and did it and is doing

1196
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: it again. Like I said, got another. So I look

1197
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: at Drew, who I didn't really know. I'd seen him around,

1198
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: and he had just turned into it.

1199
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't think he would care, and I would

1200
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: actually don't care if he thinks if he cares.

1201
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: But he was just another guy that had a second

1202
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: was gone, which there's one hundred of them in town, yeah,

1203
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: every year. And he was like, oh yeah, that guy

1204
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: people kind of believe thought he was a shiny toy

1205
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: for a second, not anymore. But he like figured it

1206
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: out through necessity.

1207
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I look at Drew.

1208
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: When I say, man, this is the guy who strategized

1209
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: it and never had it figured out. Still doesn't, but

1210
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: like didn't stop figuring it out right until he had

1211
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: some success. He kept chasing it. Who do you Who

1212
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: do you see that does that?

1213
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: Well?

1214
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: Man, there's there's a few. If you wouldn't have said

1215
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: you can say Drew too. I'll just say if you

1216
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't have said Drew deaf because we played dude, I've

1217
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: played shows with him ten years ago.

1218
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: You know, he's open for us.

1219
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: We've over him, like and I've just known him, and yeah,

1220
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: just the it's there's it's never a straight line, and

1221
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: his story is definitely an example of that. But you

1222
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: do just figure it out, I would say him. I'd

1223
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: say Walker Hayes, like we knew Walker years ago, years

1224
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: before the Applebee's thing, and and you know, good, I

1225
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 3: love his music, like I thought it was so honest

1226
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 3: and raw, but uh, just actually continuing to do that

1227
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: kind of real left of center thing until you just

1228
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: catch the right wave, right. I'd also say, like a

1229
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: Muscatine bloodline right now they've done it from a non

1230
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: terrestrial radio side, but really just engaging a fan base

1231
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: and continuing to just uh you know, be a you know,

1232
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 3: a unified small business that is music and continuing to

1233
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: put out music for your fans.

1234
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, and those are three people that did it

1235
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: completely different.

1236
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: I know that's what I was because completely they'd all

1237
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: chase different rabbits.

1238
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: And made it in their own way. Yeah, what do

1239
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: you listen to?

1240
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh podcast?

1241
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: Now what about music?

1242
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, we could do both. No, I with music like true,

1243
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: it's funny. That's probably why I say the top of

1244
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: mine is mustling. I was listening to their stuff. I listened, man,

1245
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: I listened to competitors. I hate giving them such such

1246
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 3: a what are you out out? But like Flatland Cavalry,

1247
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 3: like I like that stuff. I also like like Jason

1248
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: Isabel and and some like Americana kind of Americana folk

1249
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: type stuff. But then even like then like bumping this

1250
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: guy Forrest Frank, who you know is a great dance

1251
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: party for the family, and uh, trying to think I

1252
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: have to get on my Spotify. I music consumption is

1253
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: weird for me, to be totally honest, Like I sometimes

1254
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: it's very hard for me to to not listen to

1255
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 3: music critically, like I have like a steam son it

1256
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 3: sure you're in it, yeah, And so like if I'm

1257
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: if I like getting my son and I'm trying to chill,

1258
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: I literally put on a spa music playlist because there's

1259
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: no uh, there's no tempo, there's no time signature, there's

1260
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: it's just ambient noise, and that helps me like and

1261
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: then that's like podcasts too. It's at least I'm critically

1262
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: thinking about words people are saying as opposed to like

1263
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: why did they do that? Why did they and the

1264
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 3: chorus there, well you know like that. So sometimes music

1265
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: is honestly tough to listen to.

1266
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: What podcast do you listen to?

1267
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: Oh? Uh, I listened to this one. I listened to like,

1268
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: I mean just pretty basic stuff. Listened like Joe Rogan.

1269
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: But then I'll listen what's your number one listen to podcast?

1270
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: If they did a rap as of whatever? Today is

1271
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: April May, like so far this year, you probably listen

1272
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 1: to what podcast the most?

1273
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm gonna sound real weird. Sorry, there's a

1274
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 3: podcast called Blurry Creatures.

1275
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Shut Out.

1276
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't know them, tell me more.

1277
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so, it's called Blurry Creatures. It started as

1278
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: a big Foot podcast because every photo of Bigfoot is blurry?

1279
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: Do you know it? The podcast, Oh you just love Bigfoot?

1280
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I was like real read also listens and no, no

1281
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: read love Bigfoot? Got it? Yeah, it's like you're in

1282
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: a city Bakersville.

1283
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah Bigfoot. Okay, we got to see they're Bigfoot fans.

1284
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 4: I'm not even a Bigfoot guy like that.

1285
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: But it's called Burry Creatures because there is you know,

1286
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, every but does he exist? So it

1287
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: turned but what it is now it's like a super

1288
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: natural podcast from kind of like a religious perspective, like

1289
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: a worldview of like Okay, they're really weird things like

1290
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: in the Bible there, like do the aliens, you know,

1291
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: do these things.

1292
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: It's the weird. It's a weird podcast, but it's fun.

1293
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: They like I'll just listen to a guest I was

1294
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: talking about near death experiences, so they'll have really interesting,

1295
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: like qualified people on there that just that once again

1296
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: from my mind, like near death experiences I have no

1297
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: I can't really analyze that or critically. I can just

1298
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: turn my brain off and like clean the house or

1299
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: do something around the house and listen to a guy

1300
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: talk about studying thousands of people who have had near

1301
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 3: death experiences.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good because it's so different than what you

1303
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Speaker 1: do all the time, so you're not comparing it to

1304
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Speaker 1: what you do, or you're not comparing it to other

1305
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: things that are like what you do. That's why I

1306
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: what sucks is I now do a lot of sports,

1307
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: but that's why we listen to all sports podcasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1308
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: because it just took me away from this place completely.

1309
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: Not that I don't love the place, but there gets

1310
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: to be a point where I've had enough for the day.

1311
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah in every way. Yeah, and so but then, like

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: I typically do, I just started was like I think

1313
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll do it now too. And so now I got

1314
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: like two sports podcasts. I can't even listen to them

1315
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: and enjoy them like I used to because now I'm

1316
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: either thinking about, man, this guy's really good.

1317
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: This guy I like how.

1318
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: He does it, or this sucks or what a terrible guest,

1319
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: or now I'm thinking I never booked this guest.

1320
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: So now I've kind of run that for myself.

1321
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that you you're a person. I'm like that

1322
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 3: you turn your you take your passions and then turn

1323
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: them into something, and then your passion them becomes I

1324
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: even got like that with golf, Like in same fish,

1325
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm in fishing, I was in fish tournaments, got into golf,

1326
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 3: joined a golf league, and like was trying to be

1327
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: the number one ranks in.

1328
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: My little dumb league. And I'm like, I can turn

1329
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 4: things into like.

1330
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get a little serious.

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00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: My wife will tell me to stop turning hobbies into

1332
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: things that I'm monetizing. Yeah, And I tell her I

1333
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: don't start them to monetize them, but I do them

1334
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: and get so obsessed. And I also can go, I

1335
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: can monetize this while also loving it. But then it

1336
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: gets to the point then I have to create the product.

1337
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: Then then it becomes obsession with product creation, and I

1338
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of lose what I originally got in. So every

1339
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: hobby I've ever had, I've turned it into content and

1340
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: then not loved it as much.

1341
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: Well, and it's hard for you because your career is

1342
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: like you're a facilitator of conversation and ideas and people,

1343
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: and so if it's if you get you could do

1344
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 3: that with anything, Like for a musician, no matter how

1345
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: much I'm into golf, Like I'm not gonna write golf songs,

1346
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, And so where I could see that being

1347
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: a challenge for you because it's it's definitely anything you

1348
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: get into you could take this format and you could

1349
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 3: use the tools and the resources that you have to

1350
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: I think golf.

1351
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: So pretty good, man, What I think golf's long be

1352
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: pretty good?

1353
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is one out there if we

1354
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: get the artists.

1355
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: I started listening to Blurry Bigfoots or whatever.

1356
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: It's coloring creatures, dude, it's a it's an out there.

1357
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: It's just literally when it's just top my mind, I

1358
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: was listened to it last night. But I will listen

1359
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: to things that are not I love sports too, but

1360
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: I'll like watch I was like Sports Center, you know,

1361
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: something like that on no sports podcasts don't really listen

1362
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: to cause I kind of I'll like watch high. I

1363
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: get on social and like look at like what's if

1364
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: Niko's wanting four million dollars whatever, Like I'll go down

1365
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: a rabbit hole of that. But sometimes I'll listen to

1366
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: like sports radio, like in the car, but I don't

1367
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: a lot of times intentionally cigret that.

1368
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.

1369
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're always writing songs in your head? Is there

1370
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: always something you're going, Oh, that could be a concept,

1371
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: that could be a that could be a yeah.

1372
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: So I actually am I've discovered this in my life

1373
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: the past few years, is that I am a seasonal writer.

1374
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: So I'll go through seasons of that.

1375
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: I'll go through now now there's it's always kind of

1376
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: there because they like even today, I could get my

1377
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: car like, oh you know what, and I will write

1378
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: it down. But when I'm in like a season of writing,

1379
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: then everything the faucet is always on it, everything is

1380
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: a song at the point where it's like obsessive. I

1381
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: can roll down my window and roll everything is something

1382
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: that could be in a song.

1383
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: But sometimes I don't want to.

1384
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the too long because then

1385
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: everything nothing really sticks out Like I don't I'm not

1386
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: actually captivating. I'm just like in that obsessive mode where

1387
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: everything's a lyric, where right now something stands out to me.

1388
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, in the midst of everything that stood out,

1389
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: that's probably pretty cool.

1390
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: The album, We're gonna make it. You guys still have

1391
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: dates all the way till I see end of August,

1392
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: still doing shows, right, Yeah.

1393
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, We're headed into like kind of that summer festival

1394
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: season thing. We're all over the place and then gonna

1395
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: do like a fall winter tour.

1396
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: All the seasons you just said all the seasons.

1397
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: Well, summer for anyone listening, Spring and summer for a

1398
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: lot of artists. There are summer tours, but for a

1399
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: lot of artists it's it's not routed.

1400
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,479
Speaker 4: It's just a crazy festival season.

1401
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 3: You're flying all over the place because if Charlotte's gonna

1402
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: have you on Saturday, and then San Francisco, you know

1403
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: LA's gonna have you on Wisconsin. Madison you're just all

1404
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: over the place because you're going where the festivals and

1405
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: fairs are. But then like fall, winter is more where

1406
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: you're like routing theaters and clubs and you're like go, like.

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01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna go to Chicago.

1408
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: We're going to Cincinnati, Chicago, Madison, Minneapolis. It's a little

1409
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: more organized, but some are literally is like a thrown

1410
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: a dart darts of a map.

1411
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 2: What's good to see again?

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: Man? Yeah it is again. I don't feel like I

1413
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: haven't seen you. It's the weird thing. It hasn't been.

1414
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a long time since we've actually

1415
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: spent time together. But yeah, I find that sometimes because

1416
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: somebody will come over and I haven't seen them forever,

1417
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: and I don't even make a big deal about seeing

1418
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: them again because it feels like I've seen them because

1419
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: of what socials.

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm quite social media.

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01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: I can't, though I would say I can't either.

1422
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 4: I just had a social media meeting yesterday.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: How'd that go?

1424
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 4: It never goes well.

1425
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: What I find problematic about those meetings, especially if I

1426
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: talk to people about the algorithm, is they never really know.

1427
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: There's never any actual knowledge backed by data they can

1428
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: give you that will be the same next week. So

1429
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: it's always this is what it was, but based on

1430
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: what we know about algorithms, it will not be this

1431
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: way next week. So uh yeah, good luck.

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that could be a whole winding trail we go.

1433
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: But it's tough because for me, I just want to

1434
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 3: put out I want to showcase our music and our

1435
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: our shows and our lifestyle whatever. But a lot of

1436
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: things at work it's like, hey, this trend is happening.

1437
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: Can you do this trend? It's like, well, yeah, it's

1438
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: I can.

1439
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1440
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: It's always a it's a it's a dance that never ends.

1441
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 3: But and when I say it didn't go well, it's

1442
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: not it doesn't go well. It just is like for me,

1443
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: it's way more fun like writing a song or the show.

1444
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: So it's hard when you're not like I don't love it,

1445
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: and so it's just trying to find what I love

1446
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: about it and what excites me to put on there.

1447
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: But a lot of times what excites me may not

1448
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: be the trendiest, most captivating. I don't know, it's a

1449
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: I just want to do blurry bigfoot. Yeah, just to

1450
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: start talking about bigfoot.

1451
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: All right? Follow at Lanco Music for Lanco and Brandon Lanka.

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: That's just it.

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: It's Brandon lank renan out of characters.

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01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh. Yeah. I'm never on my personal but

1455
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: you are.

1456
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: No, that's why it was lefted second here. But I

1457
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: thought I would just know Brandon Linka out there because

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01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: it looks weird.

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01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not your whole name. There were two any characters.

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01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should just get a new page now, I know.

1461
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: I like run all the Lanco stuff, so I'm always

1462
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: on there.

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: And it would have just made did you do Brandon

1464
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: Lanka before at Lanco Music?

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01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: Dude, I made Brandon Lanka before Instagram was even It

1466
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: was like a photo editing because I would have said,

1467
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 3: you could have just.

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01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Done Brandon Lanco instead of Brandon Lankab.

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01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: But your name is Lancaster but yeah, yeah, well I

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01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: was Bob Man seventeen for a long time.

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01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's like a.

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01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: It's an old screen name from like high school, Brandon Lanka.

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01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 4: That they just like automatically a sign don't.

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01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: Worry about Brandon Lanka. Go follow at Lanco Music and

1475
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: you guys check out the music and tell all the

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: boys it said hello, I will it'd be awesome.

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01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: There is Brandon lincash

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Speaker 5: Every Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production