1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Mink here with Garrett Downing, and we are 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: gonna be talking today about a pair of the newcomers 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: to the Ravens, DeAndre Hopkins and Jaye Alexander, and what 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: we've seen from them and expect from them this season, 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: as well as some under the radar standouts. Okay, we 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: hit some of the big names in our last episode, 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: you know, Rokwan, some of those some of those big 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: guys who are playing really well. But we're gonna go 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: a little deeper to give you some under the radar standouts. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: But Garrett, let's let's start with first with DeAndre Hopkins. 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: And uh, you know now he missed one practice because 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: he had landed on his knee or whatever out of 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: an abundance of caution. He missed one practice. But when 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: he's been out there on the field, I'll tell you 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: this guy looks like a difference maker. Yeah. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: I've been really impressed with DeAndre Hopkins. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: You might be leading, You might be like head of 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: the fan click. I think seriously, like you have not 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: stopped talking about DeAndre Hopkins. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Every time he makes a play out there on the field, 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: which has been often early in training camp, I got 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: to look around and just take notice of who is 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: now hopping on board by bandwagon. 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: That is one of our favorite things to do in 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: training camp. Is like you kind of get your guys 27 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: that like you think you're going to do well or 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: you're rooting for to do well, especially of course do well. 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: But like you got your guys and you plant your 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: flag and then whenever that guy makes a play, you 31 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: look down. 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: If you look down and make eye content, you see 33 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: he just making sure you saw that. 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: But then your notebook, take out the pen and paper 35 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: right now, right in the notebook, you. 36 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Do the whole the lick the pen thing right now, Hopkins? 37 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: Is that for me? I really do think that he 38 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: is going to add an important element of this offense. 39 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: And the thing that everybody has known about him is that, 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: like throughout his career, just throw it in his direction 41 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: and he's going to make the catch even if he's 42 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: not open. He's open. That's like been his mo o, 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: the back shoulder stuff. He's as good as anybody in 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: the league that has been throughout his career at that 45 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: contest to catch nobody better. And we're seeing that early 46 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: in camp, like all of that stuff, it still seems 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: like he has all that ability. 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: Here's one thing about that is, you know, now DeAndre 49 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: posted his his stats like the role of numbers of 50 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: how fast he's moving and whatnot, and he's he's run 51 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: as fast as the guys that are a decade younger 52 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: than him, right, and he's so he's. 53 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Moving really well. 54 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: But on top of that, like if he's made is 55 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: he's his bread and butter has been contested catches that 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: never goes away, like if they're still contested, because if 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: he if he's a dick slower than he was five 58 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: or ten years ago, if it contests and guesses were 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: was always your thing, they can still be your. 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: Thing, right right, I totally agree with that, But I 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: also do think, like I was wondering, you always wonder 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: when you sign a veteran player, the question is like 63 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: how much do they have left? Are they still moving? Well, 64 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: they're still fast enough, like all that stuff, And he 65 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: does not seem at all to be a guy that's 66 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: like it's slowing down, that doesn't have juice anymore, that's 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: lagging by behind, like none of those things, like he's 68 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: still he's separating. He's accelerating after the catch, like when 69 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: he gets the ball in his hands, he turns up 70 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: field and he still has burst. And then he's still 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: making all those contested catches. Like there was a play 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: in practice on Friday on the contested catch front where 73 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: it looked to me like it was just gonna be 74 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: an incompletion a little too far outside of his reach. 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: He goes to the ground, makes a really tough catch. 76 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: He came back, came back on the ball. 77 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it was just a veteran catch and and 78 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: a diving grab, right and he. 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: Just felt like one You're like, oh, that's gonna be off. 80 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: Whoa he ended up catching that one, Okay. I like that. 81 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 82 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: And I just think his ability, like I think on 83 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 3: third and eight, if you're like right now it's it's 84 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and against Buffalo and you're you're you 85 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: need to throw at the d hot like he he 86 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: might be your your best guy in that situation. Like 87 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: on the a third and eight, you gotta have it 88 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: catch and there aways have a lot of good options 89 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: to be honest, there and that and that which I 90 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: think is going to help all of them. 91 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing, right. 92 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: You know, you're looking at Zay Flowers and we're bateman 93 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: out there on the field potentially to in addition to 94 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: the tight ends, and who are those safeties watching or 95 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: he's getting the double coverage. It ain't gonna be DeAndre Hopkins, right, 96 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: like you know, say Flowers exactly. They're gonna be worried 97 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: about getting beat over the top by one of those guys. 98 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Yep. And so I think d Hop's gonna get a 99 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: lot of one on ones. 100 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: And I think he's he's been basically an impossible guy 101 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: to cover one on one in his career. And if 102 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: you can make these contested catches like we're talking about 103 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: eight situation, like that's that's easy money. 104 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: Yep. Yep. He just bullies. 105 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: He just bullies cornerbacks like and he has that knack, 106 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: you know, that veteran nack if he knows when he 107 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: can get a little contact and break open and all 108 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: that stuff. 109 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Like he's just a pro. 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: And I'll kind of go back, And the more I 111 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: think about this, the more I think it rings true. 112 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Is like if you are. 113 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: A veteran player an agent in your thirties or whatever, 114 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: but you have a calling card that is like uniquely 115 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: yours and it ain't going anywhere. I think you have 116 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: a really good chance of like continuing to have success. 117 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry the physicality, right like, it ain't going anywhere. 118 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: He's still going to truck you when he's thirty five, 119 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: when he's forty, he's still probably truck people, right like. 120 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: And so if you if that calling card never leaves, like, 121 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: I think you can have an extended run of success. 122 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what DeAndre Hopkins has. 123 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: I mean there's a throw of a catch he made 124 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: last year in Kansas City, like between three defenders. 125 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: When I was watching that game on TV, I was like. 126 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, it looks like the DeAndre Hopkins 127 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: you know of like twenty fourteen yea with the Texans. 128 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: Like it was an incredible play. And I think he's 129 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: definitely going to make those plays this year. He is 130 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: he is a quarterbacks. He's just a quarterback's best friend. 131 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: That's just what he is. And Lamar's had that in 132 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: like Mark Andrews and isaa likely is going into that 133 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: for Lamar and and like Lamar loves throwing to Day 134 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: and Bait and all those guys. But like it's just 135 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: different that having that trust, can touch it, can test 136 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: the skin. It's like a wide receiver security blanket quarterbacks 137 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: best front. 138 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 3: To go back to your point about having a calling card, 139 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: I think that if you have a calling card as 140 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: a veteran, that can be great. But I think certain 141 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: calling cards go out of style quickly, Like if your 142 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: calling card is speed, then you're in trouble. Even like 143 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: being really physical, that gets harder when you get older 144 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: in your career. Just being able to hold up physically 145 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: like that becomes more challenging. But being able to catch 146 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: the ball in traffic like that's one that rings true, 147 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: Like that always works, that always plays, And I think 148 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: that he has that And and again, I've just been 149 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: impressed with the way that he's been moving, the acceleration 150 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: that he's shown. And I think that as a as 151 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: a the Ravens have a lot of talent in that 152 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: receiver room now, but bringing in a veteran player who's 153 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: done it at a high level, who has like the 154 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: mindset that we've talked about so far in camp, as 155 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: a veteran who wants to win a championship, I think 156 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: that all that stuff is going to help this offense. 157 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: And I could not have been more impressed with him 158 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: through the first week of camp. 159 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's not that far removed from a 160 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: thousand yard season. No, he topped a thousand yards in 161 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Yeah here before last yeah, right, So, 162 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: like this guy was a very productive player. So last year, 163 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: you know, he put up six hundred and ten receiving 164 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: yards split between the Titans and Kansas City. But like, 165 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it's anywhere. I don't think it's absurd 166 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: to say that. You know, we saw kind of the 167 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: decline in numbers with Derrick Henry and then he came 168 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: here and like the other way, right, Like, I think 169 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: that a lot of people sometimes assume with these thirty 170 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: year old offensive players that like, once they start to 171 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: decline in the numbers, it's going to keep going on 172 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: that trajectory. I don't think it's impossible to think for 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins that it could who just reverse. Now the 174 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: issue is the other weapons around him, right, Like, Kansas 175 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: City was extremely banged up and he was kind of 176 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: like he was a starter. He was like kind of 177 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: the guy for them down the stretch with Worthy, But 178 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: like here there's there's more mouths to feed and so 179 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: that's gonna eat into his numbers a little bit. 180 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: Well the other thing too, Like in Tennessee, you look 181 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: at the whole picture of his season last year. Tennessee 182 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: had major quarterback issues last year. There were teams that struggled. 183 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: They obviously finished with the number one overall pick and 184 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: drafted cam Ward. Then you get traded to Kansas City 185 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: and he ultimately ended up being like a go to 186 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: guy there along with David Worthy, like you mentioned, But 187 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: getting traded mid season and stepping into a big role 188 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: like that is a challenging role, learning a new offense, 189 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: new system and all that. He still came up with 190 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: a big place in Kansas City. But I think that, 191 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: like you look at his season on the whole, and 192 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 3: you can just look at the numbers, but if you 193 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: want to dig into it, you can understand why it 194 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: wasn't a thousand yard season. Like that's a pretty easy explanation, right, 195 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: And so I like, I'm just everything that I have 196 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: seen shows me that he still has gas left in 197 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: the tank and that he's going to be a difference 198 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: maker for this offense. 199 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we talk about how they're going to 200 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: change the team, I think it also schematically could change 201 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: what the Ravens want to do on offense. I think 202 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: that last year they really lived a lot in twelve personnel, 203 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: one running back, two tight ends. Now they were dynamic 204 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: in that formation and in that personnel, I should say, 205 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: and so they don't want to I don't think they 206 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: want to stray too far from that. You know, if 207 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: it ain't broke, don't fix it. But also I do 208 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: think that they have the capability of going three wide, 209 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: you know, playing more thirteen one running back, three wide 210 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: receivers and doing a lot of damage in that personnel 211 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: as well. 212 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, it is tough because you start thinking about 213 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: it and you're going to have all these situations where 214 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: you're like, man, I'd love to get Andrews and Likely 215 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: on the field together. Man I would love to get Hopkins, 216 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: Bateman Ansey on the field together. Man I'd love Could 217 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: there be a way that you get Dereck Henry and 218 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Keith Mitchell in the backfield with Lamar Jackson like that 219 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: is that's an exciting potential, And so it's an embarrassment 220 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: of Richie. 221 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's the thing. We go with three 222 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: offensive then there. 223 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: We go all skill all speed, all flash. I like 224 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: you should pitch that to Monkey. Yeah, I think you'd 225 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: like that. So yeah, I think that like the Ravens 226 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: are going to figure all that out. But whatever, like 227 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: personnel groups they end up using, how and whatever the 228 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: scheme looks like. I just firmly believe that Hopkins is 229 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: going to be a difference maker for this team this year. 230 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: Completely agree. 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: All right, let's flip it over the defensive side. I hear, Alexander. 232 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: This guy's just been fun to watch so far in 233 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: training camp. What what do you think he does for 234 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens and how does he change them? 235 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Well, I think vibe and culture culture might be too strong. 236 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: I don't think he's changing the culture. 237 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I think that he's he is bringing energy plugged into 238 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: the culture the culture. Really is bringing his own swagger. 239 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's bringing his own swagger and he's got this 240 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: like energy that's infectious. It's kind of fun. Even like 241 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: just there was a period of practice today where I 242 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: was like, I'm just gonna watch try e Alexander even 243 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 3: after the play, and even after the play when he's 244 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: not in, he walks up and down the sidelines, he's 245 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: talking to everybody. He has great energy and then if 246 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: something good happens, like he is celebrating, the first guy 247 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: out on the field celebrating. There was a point in 248 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: practice where him and Nate Wiggans are celebrating. They're doing 249 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: this the double seat belt. That was celebration. 250 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: It was awesome. That was awesome. 251 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: They broke up a pass intended for bait and it 252 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: was good play by Nate and. 253 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Jayyar and him, just face to face. 254 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: Double big exaggeratedself seat belts. The biggest seatbelts is like 255 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: a mac truck seat belt. 256 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: They gotta do it. 257 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: They gotta do the combo. Put him in the box, 258 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: thumbs down seat belt. There's gonna be multiple steps here 259 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: to the celebration. 260 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: To be honest, the only negative that I can say 261 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: about Jay Alexander is that I'm a little bit worried 262 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: about the box and does the box go away because 263 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: it gets replaced by the seat belt. I'm a little 264 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: concerned about that. The seatbelt's kind of taken over early 265 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: in training camp. So it's a storyline. 266 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: It's a big storyline, which celebration of the ray was 267 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: gonna use it. You gotta talk to Nate about this. Yeah, 268 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: well he did the seat belt. He was, can you 269 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: go seat belt? 270 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Double thumbs down. 271 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: I think you've got to figure out a way to 272 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: do a combo. That's what where they're headed. Kyle, And like, 273 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: in all honesty, Kyle Hamilton and Marlon Humphrey both talked 274 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: about how JayR is bringing this energy and the swagger 275 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: to the secondary and like, I give him that it 276 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: kind of needed, it needed, they said, kind of needed. 277 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: And I give him credit because I don't think it's easy, 278 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: even for a player of his pedigree to come into 279 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: a new team and in three days everyone's talking about 280 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: this guy brought like the energy that we needed in 281 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: the secondary, especially when you have Pro Bowl first round picks, 282 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: all pro level players and a really good team. And 283 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: so for you to come in and have that type 284 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: of attitude and and and also do it in a 285 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: way that's not like overbearing, like. 286 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: It's easy to in like a fun way like he's 287 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: it's just fun to watch him. 288 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know, it's great, it's great. 289 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: What JayR said was he's like a I think he 290 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: very much expects himself to play at a high level. 291 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: But he said, if if there's. 292 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: One thing, you know, I'm gonna bring you can count 293 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: on I'm bringing the juice you. I will absolutely do that. 294 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: I can guarantee it. And uh and yeah, it really 295 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: is infectious. I mean you look at the secondary last 296 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: year and the people in it. Okay, Marlin's his own guy. 297 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean Marlin's is a self proclaimed weirdo. J here 298 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: was like I thought I was weird, Marlon might have 299 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: me be yeah, right, And like Marlin gets is very 300 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: hype like when he's out on the field, like just 301 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: he just screams all the time. 302 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: We've had him micd up a number of times and 303 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: he's just always yelling. 304 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: And so like he brings the juice, but it's kind 305 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: of a different way, you know. Brandon Stevens last year 306 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: is a very cool call and collected guy. 307 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Confident, but like not a he's a quiet, quiet guy. 308 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 309 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton very professional, quiet guy, like not a big 310 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: showy guy at all. Right, Marcus Williams not not a 311 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: showy guy. Ard Areaswashing not a showy guy at all. 312 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Right. 313 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: Like so you kind of go down the list and 314 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: like there weren't a lot of those big personality guys 315 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: and it was a rookie and it was a rookie, 316 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: so you know, he had the box a few times, 317 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: but like also not like a big loud guy. 318 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's a pretty quiet, chill dude. You're ain't 319 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: a chill, quiet guy. 320 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: And and so I really do think like that it 321 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: is bringing a different dynamic and swagger to this defense 322 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: that wants to have more of that edge. 323 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and in terms of the play, I similar to 324 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: the conversation we just had about DeAndre Hopkins certainly looks 325 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: like a guy who has plenty of plenty of gas 326 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: left in the tank. 327 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean he's not. I mean he's like it's still 328 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: in the prime age. He's in his late twenties, and. 329 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: And he's like he's moving really well. The injuries that 330 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: he dealt with last year seemed like they're distant. Said, 331 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: he feels great. Didn't really want to get into when 332 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: we had a chance to talk to him, get into 333 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: like the whole injury history and all that stuff, but 334 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: which he just said. He's moving on. He's looking looking ahead, 335 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: not backwards, but like he's practicing. He's moving well. He 336 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: looks good, and I think that he's he's he had 337 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: some it's been kind of fun to watch him and 338 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Hopkins have some some battles in practice on the On 339 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: the first day, Lamar tested Uh Jai with a back 340 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: shoulder throw to Hopkins. Hopkins caught it but might have 341 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: been out of bounce and then uh and then in 342 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: practice on Friday, Uh, there was another one where Hopkins 343 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: had a crossing route ended up catching that one against Jaire. Yeah, 344 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: but like they've had. 345 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: About another back shoulder one where JayR kind of give 346 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: him a little bow, you know, JayR went up high 347 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: and broke up that the one intended for I think, wait, 348 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: Dan Wade. Yeah, so like he's he's playing well too. 349 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: And what I really like also is, you know, with 350 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Cheeto out there, also, I think the Ravens can be 351 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: a little bit situational in how they want to deploy 352 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: these guys. You know, like just because they signed Jaiyir 353 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that Cheeto is just. 354 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Cast to the sideline. 355 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 356 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: And like, you know, Cheetoh is a really good run defender, 357 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: Jahir is a really really good pass defender. Like is 358 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: there a combination there that you can kind of and 359 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: also if if if you can rotate them a little bit, 360 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: it keeps them both a little bit fresher. Maybe it 361 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: prevents it keeps them a little healthier potentially, you know, 362 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: for two guys that have dealt with injuries, I don't know. 363 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: You know, if you have six DB's on the field, 364 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: who with the six? In your mind? 365 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: The six so it's Kyle Malachi uh and then the 366 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: four corners, I mean Marlon, Wiggy Cheeto and Jay yr Yeah, 367 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: it go six. 368 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: Of course, last year the Rave has had a different personnel, 369 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: but there were plenty of times that they used three 370 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: safe saties. Yeah, and so my point here is really 371 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: in that situation, then Marlon is plays a lot of 372 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: it plays a lot of slot this year, and so 373 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: you use him in there, and then you have the 374 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: three corners rather than extra safety on the field. 375 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 376 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: The other possibility in that if you're having six, like 377 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Armor Davis is another guy who's kind of cross 378 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: trained both a corner and safety, so he can kind 379 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: of play both roles as well. 380 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean Kyle, yeah, yeah, I mean they can. 381 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: I think there's also do you take a linebacker off 382 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: the field, you know, I think there's a lot of 383 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: questions there. 384 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So long story short on that, I think that 385 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: Jai year has shown that he is going to be 386 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: also a difference maker for this defense, and I love 387 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: the energy and I love what I'm seeing from him 388 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: on the fields from a football standpoint. So I like, 389 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: both of those guys have me fired up, and. 390 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: They're the kind of signings. 391 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: I thought they were both really great signings when they happen, 392 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: but watching them on the field, I'm like, these are 393 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: the kind of additions, editions that could put you at 394 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: the top quite honestly. 395 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels that way, and the early returns are 396 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: all positive, yep on those two guys. So we're gonna 397 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: take a quick break when we come back, we'll dive 398 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: into some of the guys a little bit under the 399 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: radar that we're having a really strong start to training camp. 400 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: You're listening to the last podcast we were coming to 401 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: you from the Sea Geek Studio. We want to mention 402 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: our partners with Drafticking sports Book. They are an official 403 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sports Book. 404 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. So the Ravens have wrapped up 405 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: the first week of training, can't practice. The pads come 406 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 3: on today, so they're gonna be putting the pads on, 407 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: and that's when things ramp up a little bit and 408 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: we get to see some more of the physicality that 409 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 3: we're all excited about in training camp. But we got 410 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: a good taste over the first the first week of 411 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: camp with what this team could look like at some 412 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 3: of the impact players. So we also want to talk 413 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: about guys a little bit under the radar. These are 414 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: guys that are potentially competing for roster spots, starting jobs, 415 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: or just looking for somebody that can take another step. 416 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: So one of the highlights of players who have caught 417 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: our attention in the first week, and the first one 418 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: that we'll mention is someone who I mentioned just a 419 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: minute ago is Jalen Armor Davis cornerback safety Combo, and 420 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: he's had a good start to training camp. He's in 421 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: his fourth season. This is a big year for him 422 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: on the roster bubble a little bit when you consider 423 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: pieces of the Ravens have added and his first three seasons. 424 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: But it's been a good start to him for training camp. 425 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: You're coming around, You're coming around to my guy. Yeah, 426 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: that's one of my guys that when he makes a play, I. 427 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Look down and make sure you saw it. Yeah, Uh, yeah, 428 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: I think. 429 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: I think Jalen, like especially the first two days, multiple 430 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: plays on the ball, forcing incompletions. 431 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Uh, just a tough cover guy and. 432 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: Like I felt that way about him before, like when 433 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: he when he's been healthy and on the field, like 434 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: he moves really well, he's big, can be, he's physical. 435 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: I think that uh, Jalen Armor Davis is making a 436 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: good case here early on that he's too good to 437 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: uh to pass up. 438 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the the I agree with everything you said, 439 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: and of course Jalen has shown that ability in his career. 440 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: I think now it's going to be a big test 441 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: for him. Now it gets more physical. The pass come on, 442 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: you get into the grind of training camp, but how 443 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: do you hold up physically in this next phase of 444 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: things as you get into preseason games and the joint 445 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: practices of the Ravens have like the physical nature and 446 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 3: that of these next three weeks are going to be telling. 447 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: But I think that it's been. 448 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: You're not saying like the physicality of the play. You're 449 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: saying like how does your body like as days stack 450 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: and you're kind of getting to grinding and it's really 451 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: hot and all that stuff to you hold up. 452 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, because I like the ability, and I think 453 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: that he's versatile, and I think that he's really smart, 454 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: and I think that he works hard. So all that 455 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: stuff I think is like positive. It's just you kind 456 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: of withstand the riggers as you get into the later 457 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: stage as a training camp. 458 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: Yep, all right. 459 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: I'll point to another player who I'm sure I'm sure 460 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: you're gonna give you a hard time about this. 461 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sure you're going to say that Mar Jackson. 462 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: Here we go. What do you get, Derek Ander, give 463 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: it to me. What do you got going with? 464 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: David Ajabo? 465 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: Okay? 466 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: I think that a Jaba has looked pretty good so far. 467 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: And had a nice had a nice uh sack in 468 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: Friday's practice, followed by shortly after just his spin move. 469 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, looks pretty darn good early on. And 470 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: I think I think he's practicing well. I mean, we're 471 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: talking about a former second round pick. We've all been 472 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: like hoping for man. You've been rooting for him to 473 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: be healthy and kind of put it together and stay healthy, 474 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: just like Jalen. We got done talking about that's part 475 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: of the equation here. But I think he looks good. 476 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: Or I'm with you. Actually I had him on my 477 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: list too. I think that he's someone he also is 478 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: like just physical at the point of attack, like he's 479 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: he's holding up well to blockers, like he's not getting 480 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 3: pushed around at all. I just think that it's been 481 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 3: a good start to him. And and you know, John 482 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: Harball kind of dis on Thursday, kind of dismissed a 483 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: question about a Jabo and made the point that that, like, 484 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: this is a highly touted guy and so plenty of 485 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: people have been doubting him and questioning whether it's going 486 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: to work out and all this stuff, and he doesn't 487 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: like that. And I think that he is. The Ravens 488 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: have confidence and belief in him. Like I remember, like 489 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 3: I go back to when we sat down with Eric 490 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: the Kosta after the draft and we were talking about 491 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: Mike Green and the you know, some of the additions 492 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: of the Ravens have made to this defense, and he 493 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: made the point that, like, we still have a lot 494 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: of faith in David A Jaba and what he can do. 495 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: And so I think the Ravens like his potential still 496 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: and I'm encouraged by what I've seen from him this 497 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 3: first week. I'm with you. I'm with you on that. 498 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: I am as well. Next guy that I'll go point 499 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 3: two is Lowry. 500 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Now this is really off under the radar here, Yeah, I. 501 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: Mean this is is off the radar, off the tradar. 502 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: Undrafted rookie defensive back had an interception. Uh, he's just 503 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: around the ball. 504 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: Where do you play college ball? 505 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: Oh, well, I forget what is it? Chattanooga? And so 506 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: like he's we have talked about it before. I've said 507 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: this before, but like, if you just consistently make plays, 508 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna put yourself in a position they can play 509 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 3: a day. And that's easier said than done. But if 510 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: you can do that, you can put yourself in position 511 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: to catch the attention of the coaches and the scouts 512 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: and and Acosta and where they say, like this guy 513 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: should should stick around either on the fifty three or 514 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 3: on the practice squad. The thing for him is gonna 515 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 3: have And John Harball talked about him at the end 516 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: of the week as well, uh, and talking about guys 517 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: in the secondary and he called him out and. 518 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: Well, you got a question. 519 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: Well the question was about Malachi and like, and then 520 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: Harball started talking about Ruben Lowry and the pick he made, Like, 521 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: I know you're asking. 522 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: About the first round picks. 523 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't drave the guy, but he's I mean 524 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: he said like that was one of the best places 525 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: you can see. Yeah, like just a really good red 526 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: react cut right in front of receiver. 527 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, great play, great. 528 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: Pick, catch the attention to the head coach. I mean, 529 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty good thing. Now. The thing 530 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: for like, the thing for anybody who's in like that 531 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 3: type of situation is you need to be consistent with it, 532 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: like you have you have the player early flash, but 533 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: can you sustain it over the course of the summer. 534 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: That's gonna be the question for him. Yeah, But I 535 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: mean he. 536 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: Was one of the I'll say that he was one 537 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: of the OTAs in mini camp standouts. So he sustained 538 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: it through that and now the beginning of training camp. 539 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: But he's far he's far from locking up a lot 540 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: a roster spot. Yeah, so far. 541 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: And but but I like he's given himself a chance. 542 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: And you know, hey, safety behind Kyle Hamilton, Malachi Starks, 543 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: I mean I would probably say Snoosy Kane would be 544 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: the next guy in line number three, and then it 545 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: would be Bo Braid and Rubin Lowry. You know, I 546 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: like Bo. I think he's a good player, and he 547 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: flashed during the preseason and like this and he's turped, 548 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: so I'm naturally going to root for him. 549 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: But like he was an undrafted rookie. You made it 550 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: last year. 551 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the same position that Ruben Lowry 552 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: is right now, and he made it. So like that's 553 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: a that's an open competition. Really, Snoozy's in that too, 554 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: you know, like that is open behind Kyle and Malachi. 555 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: The next guy at all point two is a late 556 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: round rookie from this year, a Nias Peebles defensive lineman, 557 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 3: six round pick out of Virginia Tech, undersized defensive lineman. 558 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: He's you know, he's looks a lot different than Travis Jones. 559 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: Uh but he is a guy that has like these 560 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: this quick twitch ability, quick hands, you can get into 561 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: the backfield. 562 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: He always had a pick when you always got a 563 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: big man pick in your first trading gamp that you're 564 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: doing something good, you're doing something well. Yeah, so uh yeah, 565 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: I like Nias, Like I just think he's moving well. 566 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: You could you notice him every once in a while 567 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: and you say, oh, who's ad in the backfield pretty quick. 568 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: That's the nis peeples And that's what we saw in 569 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: when the Ravens drafted him, is this dude. He is 570 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: a gap shooter and he's quick feet, quick hands, like 571 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: you're saying. 572 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: And yeah he can he can get you. 573 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: You know, he'll surprise, he'll surprise an offensive lineman say whoa. 574 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys buy me. 575 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: And I think, like I mentioned earlier, the pads come 576 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: on that big time for him. I think that's like 577 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 3: he's one of the guys at the top of the 578 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: list that you really want to say, like how do 579 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: they handle things when the pads come on? Because the 580 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: knock on him is that he's a smaller guy, and 581 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 3: so how do you withstand physically when you're going up 582 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: against Tyler Linderbaumer, you're going up against Ben Cleveland or 583 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: Andrew Vorheeves or Daniel fall Lele like these much bigger guys. 584 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 3: Can you still have that type of success in getting 585 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: into the backfield? 586 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Pa, It might be twice the size. 587 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's much bigger. But actually he's the next 588 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: guy that we have on our list here exactly. 589 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: He looks good and he's definitely lost weight. 590 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: Under the radar. That's where we're that's where we're stretching 591 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: a little bit under the. 592 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: Radar, and the pads haven't come on yet. 593 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: Okay, right guards, So I'll knock both of us for 594 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: having him on a right. 595 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: Guard, like I'm sticking by the foul A pick. And yeah, 596 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: he's lost weight, he absolutely has. Tyler Linderbaum talked about 597 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: it about how he kind of accepted the challenge of 598 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: losing weight this offseason and getting in better shape, and 599 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: he he won that challenge, and he's moving well. I 600 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: mean I noticed him on the first day a trading 601 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: camp practice just a little I think it was a 602 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: wide receiver screen or something like that, or running back 603 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: screen to a running back I think, and he got 604 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: out front of that thing. 605 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: And was moving. I was like, look at down the field, 606 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: he's moving well. 607 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: And look, we all know like fole A took way 608 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: too much heat last year in my opinion, and and 609 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was because of that 610 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Week two game against the Raiders where he's matched up 611 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: against Max Crosby, who knock knock, He's one of the 612 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: best defensive lineman the league. He's made a lot of 613 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: people look bad and like Crosby, had some quick wins. 614 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to sit here and say those 615 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: were the only times. 616 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: He got beat because whatever his first time starting, he 617 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: was a former tackle converted to right guard, who was 618 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: drafted as more a little bit more of a raw project, 619 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: and it was his first time in their starting But 620 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: like that guy took way too much heat. 621 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: He just did. 622 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: And I thought he improved over the course of the 623 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 2: season by year season's end, Like none of us were 624 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: watching those games and being. 625 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Like, man, file Ale is the problem. 626 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just we weren't he. 627 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: Like And that's a comment to an offense line And 628 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: if you're not talking about him at the end of 629 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: the game, they did their job and we weren't talking 630 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: about File down the stretch. 631 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: He was playing well well enough. 632 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: In the Steelers game. When Derrick Henry ran wild in 633 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 3: that playoff game, no one was talking about, like, man, 634 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: this offensive lines problem with File the right guard exactly exactly. 635 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: And so like I'm excited about Daniel going into year four. 636 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 2: It's a big year for him as a contract year, 637 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: and honestly, and he looks good. The guy also, by 638 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: the way, I think he was one of the only 639 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: players he might. I think he played the most snaps 640 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: of any player on the team last year. Like that's 641 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: part of the equation here, availability and credit to him, 642 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: and when he wasn't in the best shape of playing 643 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: the whole year, and like now he's in better shape. 644 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: I honestly look at him and I think, you know, 645 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: could could he be like a Makai Becton, you know, 646 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: like and and some of these guys who have converted 647 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: from these big tackles to guard and there's just a 648 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: big old guard and they get in good shape a 649 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: little bit and and they have a lot of success. 650 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: Like I'm excited for Faula and the kind of season 651 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: that he could have. And I'm just gonna say it now, 652 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be shocked if by year's end, at 653 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: the end of the season and we're going to the 654 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: free agency, if people were saying if is gonna get paid, 655 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna be shocked. 656 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: Well, the Ravens have a really good, honestly track record 657 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: of guards who have left here and gotten paid exactly. 658 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: Like who was saying that about Ben Powers before he 659 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: had his last year? 660 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: Ben Powers did it, John Simpson did it. And one 661 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: was saying about it either. Actually guys, Pat McCarey, that 662 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: was a different situation, but he just got a nice 663 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: contract yep in Jacksonville. So like there's been a number 664 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: of guys who have had that type of track record. 665 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: And when I compare last year to this year, for 666 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: a follow, like the early practices last year, like they 667 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: were a struggle. He was like he was struggling to 668 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: get through them where he was kind of wearing down 669 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 3: at the end. 670 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: We were giving him props because like the year before that, 671 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: he would have to he would have to be pulled, 672 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: he'd be on the sideline on the knee getting the 673 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: fluids yea, and like it was like too much. Last year, 674 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: it was like, hey, give him credit, he's getting through practice. 675 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: Huh. 676 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: This year he's thriving through practice. Yeah, you know, like hey, 677 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: that's improvement. 678 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so I'm encouraged by him. And if he 679 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: takes a step that you're talking about, then man, this 680 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: offensive line could be in really good shape. 681 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all right, I'm all I thought I was 682 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: off my podium here. But one last thing is like 683 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm just sick of tired of seeing like people being 684 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: like when are we going to bring in a new right, Gord, 685 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: we gotta sign somebody in free agency. 686 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Still, that's the last piece, Like, it's not happening. It's 687 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: not happening. 688 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: You can just give it, you can just stop, you 689 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: just stop, it's not happening. 690 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Is gonna be the starter and I think he's gonna 691 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: play well. 692 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. So we're excited to see the pads come on 693 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: today and really dive into uh kind of the next level, 694 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: the next step of training camp, which should be really 695 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: fun to watch. So we're gonna continue breaking down everything 696 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: that happens over the course of camp. As always, you 697 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 698 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: dot net. Thank you so much for listening and we 699 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: will be back with you again soon