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Speaker 1: Vandermaer and John Harris with you, and we have some

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Speaker 1: all coming up, including thoughts from Johnny on various things

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Speaker 1: in just a few moments. But first, Jacques Cesaire, former charger,

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Speaker 1: It's been absolutely fantastic. The people have been extremely nice

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you this, How does it feel to be

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Speaker 1: To me, that means to first and foremost, to be

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Speaker 1: That's what it's about. And um and and that's what

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Speaker 1: I take that job very seriously. So. But when you're

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Speaker 1: UH just helping them understand situational awareness. UH, really teach

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Speaker 1: maybe weren't gonna be there. We're gonna quote unquote Poycott

428
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Speaker 1: that they'll be there and go through the testing and

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Speaker 1: do whatever they gotta do. All right. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: Ben McDaniels, receivers coach and pass game coordinator. Let's hear

431
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Speaker 1: from Ham his thoughts on Nico Collins, Davis Mills, among

432
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: other things here on Texans Radio. Moving right along on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access, Mark Vanderman, John Harris with you the

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Speaker 1: Hyunday Texans Radio studio. Let's get to Ben McDaniels. You

435
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: know his brother, Josh is the head coach of the

436
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: LA Raiders, former Patriots assistant. Well, Ben's been around the

437
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: league and then some over the years, and last year

438
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 1: was an assistant wide receivers coach here. Now he's the

439
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: wide receivers coach and the passing game coordinator, and he

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00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: reacts to the changes in the building. It's been awesome.

441
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: A lot of moving parts, some new faces obviously that

442
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: we've added to the building, which is great. But then

443
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: on the other side of that, there's plenty of familiar faces.

444
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of us that there were a part

445
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: of it a year ago and and grateful to be

446
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: to continue to be part of it. Coaches, the game

447
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: has evolved, and I know you've been around it for

448
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: a long time. We've seen positions run game coordinator, pass

449
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: game coordinator. I think we're a lot of fans what

450
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: does that mean to be pass game coordinator? What does

451
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: that What does that allow you to do, be it

452
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Speaker 1: during the week, game day, et cetera, to be the

453
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Speaker 1: past game coordinator. What does that allow you to do? Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: I think it just puts my focus on the passing

455
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: game for us offensively. UM and Pap and and Lovey

456
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: have you know, put their trust and U in me

457
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: to you know, UM, use my expertise and in my uh,

458
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: my vision and and UH to be able to help

459
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: our our our passing game and in numerous ways, um,

460
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: both through the weekend, on game day. All right, So

461
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: wide receivers in the off season, they it felt like

462
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: there were forty seven receivers in the building, and you know,

463
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: and I know it whittled down you got to the

464
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: regular season. But let's focus on Nico for the moment,

465
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: because he's entering a so called sophomore campaign in the NFL.

466
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: What did you make of his progress throughout his rookie campaign.

467
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I thought he made great progress. UM. I was really

468
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Speaker 1: impressed with how he came in. Uh. You know, first

469
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: and foremost, I had a past with Nico. UM I was.

470
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Speaker 1: I was with Nico at Michigan UM for a handful

471
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Speaker 1: of years. So I had a familiarity with him, um,

472
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: and even saying that I was that much more impressed

473
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Speaker 1: with how he came into the building. Um, his readiness, UM,

474
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: his his his physical shape um, and just uh and

475
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: then from there really all the traits that he already

476
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: is kind of took over. He's uh, he's a great person. Um.

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Speaker 1: He works as hard as as you could possibly wanting

478
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Speaker 1: to work. Um. He wants to be great. Um, you know,

479
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: and and a lot of those things contributed to his

480
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: success a year ago. He opted out in twenty twenty.

481
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Speaker 1: Did you see any sort of rust that he had

482
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Speaker 1: to sort of bang off, if you will, to kind

483
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Speaker 1: of get ready for twenty No, I mean that's kind

484
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: of where I'm going with that, you know. I mean

485
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't have a twenty twenty season, so

486
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Speaker 1: I had missed a year uh, you know watching him play.

487
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Speaker 1: So Um again, I give him a lot of credit

488
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Speaker 1: for how he came in. Um. Last year. At the

489
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Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum is a crystal vet Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: What do you see with Brandon last year? What did

491
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Speaker 1: he mean to this offense? And what can he mean

492
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: going forward? Yeah, he's uh, he's a pretty pretty special person. UM,

493
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: really important to our building. Um. He's a great professional. Uh.

494
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Speaker 1: He's a great leader both in uh in the receiver room,

495
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: in our locker room. Um. Uh he's he's a he's

496
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: a vital piece to all the young guys that that

497
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: need to look for somebody to follow. UM Brandon for

498
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 1: sure is that UM, and uh it was it was

499
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: it was special for me to be around him. Um.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of years in this league and

501
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: has had a significant amount of success. So UM, uh

502
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: it was. Uh he's a vital piece. Ben McDaniels joining

503
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: us on Texans Radio coach tell us about the Pep

504
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Hamilton offense and how it's gonna be different if at

505
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: all this year the system. Yeah, I'll let everybody else

506
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: UM either talk about that or watch that whenever that

507
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: becomes the case. UM. But uh, but I know Pep

508
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: does a great job of organizing who we want to

509
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: be UM. And really UM, utilizing our our people is

510
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: really the truth. UM. Utilizing the skills of our players

511
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: and and letting our our players talents UM shine within

512
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Speaker 1: the within the system and within the offense. And and

513
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: that's obviously the goal, UM, you know, to help us

514
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: scores make points as we can. Growing up, did you

515
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: know coaching was it for you? Like? Did you think

516
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: coaching that like it was it was written in stone

517
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: you were going to be a coach. Did you know

518
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: that growing up or just kind of evolved that way?

519
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: I think so. UM, I think so. There was a

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Speaker 1: period of time I think, UM probably in my college

521
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: years where UM, I wondered what avenue that is? Um? Um,

522
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: especially within sports yea, UM, but I grew up in it.

523
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm grateful to have grown up in it. I grew

524
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: up in a place where you learn how to love football. UM.

525
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: That has never left me. And um that's that's really

526
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: what has driven me into the into the profession and

527
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: and uh and allowed me to love what I do.

528
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: You could probably write a book on the differences of

529
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: coaching high school athletes, college athletes, pro athletes who are

530
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: at Canton McKinley quarterbacks coach Warren G. Harding, that's where

531
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: you started your career. And also you've been numerous NFL

532
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: teams in Michigan. You were just mentioning that what are

533
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: the key differences here? Coach Um, I think uh, I

534
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: think every level of football, UM, the uh, the maturity

535
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: of the player changes obviously, UM, both physically and mentally. UM.

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00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: I think Uh, I think as you continue to grow

537
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: into college in the NFL game, UM, your expectations for

538
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: what the players can and can't know, UM changes great

539
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: and in your ability to push push who they are mentally,

540
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: push who they are physically. UM. I think that just

541
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: continues to grow as you get older and play at

542
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: the different levels. I've always been on a mindset you

543
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: can coaching, coach. If you can coach, I mean, you

544
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: can coach little guys, you can coach big guys. I

545
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: mean I've always been of that mindset, UM, that you

546
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: can do that. Now, receivers are always tied into one

547
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: particular position that everybody wants to talk about. Coach, what'd

548
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: you see with Davis Mills and how did he create

549
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: that synergy with your receivers, especially when he came back

550
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: in the lineup to start back in December. Yeah, I

551
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: just I think he has a great confidence about who

552
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: he is. UM. He's very comfortable in his own shoes,

553
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: and UM, he does a great job communicating with the

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: receiver group. UM. I think he got more and more

555
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: comfortable a year ago. And uh, and I think the

556
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: production on the field showed that. Um but um, yeah,

557
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: he you know, he has a great demeanor about how

558
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: he goes for ball. Uh, goes about football both in

559
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: the building and out on the out on the practice field.

560
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: What are some of the tougher things about coaching receivers

561
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Because look to the lay person, all right, you're running

562
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard out. Well, if you're starting at the

563
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: forty three or whatever, count fifteen yards and run the out.

564
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: So how much of it is timing that you have

565
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: to work on versus feel, versus whatever. Coach that's all

566
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: of that. It is, it's all of that. Um. We're

567
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: doing some math every once in a while, yeah, um

568
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: but uh, but there's it's really developing habits and developing

569
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a rhythm, um with how you go about um, kind

570
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: of getting yourself open. Um. There's there's a lot of

571
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: pieces parts to go into that, both at the start

572
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: of the route uh and at the top of the route, um,

573
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: and then before before any of that, um, you know,

574
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: it's my job to help them anticipate what what is

575
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: it going to be post snap? You know, based on

576
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: what it looks like pre snap. So there's a lot

577
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: of things that go into that in the passing game,

578
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: receiver or otherwise. Just because your coach the position doesn't

579
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: mean that you grew up loving that particular position. But

580
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: did you have a player or two that you looked

581
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: up to and thought those are my guys? Um? Uh

582
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: you know I was in Ohio in um and this

583
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: is this is blasphemous in some ways. Um, but I

584
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: really wasn't a Browns fan. Um. Okay, I was from

585
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: northeast Ohio, so you know, um, Cincinnati really wasn't a

586
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: part of it either. Um. Um. I probably was a

587
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: Joe Montana forty nine ers guy growing up as much

588
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: as anything, but more than anything, uh, I grew up.

589
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: I grew up loving high school football. My dad was

590
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: high school head coach my entire life. So my favorite players,

591
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: my favorite teams, um, are all high school teams and

592
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: high school players from my childhood. So give us one. Uh,

593
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: well you coachy? Yeah, yeah, you know Ryan Henry, Um,

594
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: you know Jeff Richardson. Um, guys that came up through

595
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: the eighties playing for my dad when I was just

596
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: a little boy. Um. You know, just just I mean

597
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: the names are endless for me. Um. You know, being

598
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: on sidelines, run around Uh, the huddle and run around

599
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: and practice and those things. But yeah, the names are

600
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: endless of all those great Ken McKinley teams. All right,

601
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: so you go to Kent State, all right, So we

602
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: were talking about your brother and how hey you have

603
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: d one here. Okay, Golden Flashes Kent stayed all the

604
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: way but an American conference. I used to be in

605
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: the back too as an announcer. So I feel that.

606
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: But tell us why why you go there? Um? I

607
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: think Uh, I think being um, being close meant something

608
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: to me more than I even realized then. Um, it's

609
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: not far from Kenton and so uh so I appreciated that,

610
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: and I think that was um something that was inviting

611
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: to me. Um Dean ps Um. I was excited to

612
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: go play for him. Um. He's been around this league

613
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: for a long time, UM in different capacities, and um

614
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: he was phenomenal to play for and and be a

615
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: part of his program. Um. I had teams that went there,

616
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: um from my high school team. UM. So it was

617
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: really a a pretty easy fit for me. And and

618
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: uh it was a good place for me. So when

619
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: people want to visit and they come visit you in

620
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: canat or they meet you, like, let's go to the

621
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Is that some place they all want

622
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: to go? I mean, how many times have you been there? Uh? Yeah,

623
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: I've been there an uncountable amount of times. Uh really honestly, um,

624
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: multiple times a year most years of my life, especially

625
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: growing up. Um. Uh yeah you should if you know,

626
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: if you're if you're going to Canton. Um, there's there's

627
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: there's no reason that you shouldn't go to the Hall

628
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: of Fame. It's a special place all right outside. By

629
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: the way, before I get to this next question, working

630
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: at Michigan being from Ohio, that had to be a

631
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: little bit weird, right, I mean that uniform you have,

632
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: you were conditioned to not like those guys. Again I

633
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: I say this again. I you know, my dad was

634
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: a head football coach at Ken McKenley High School. And

635
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: that's really all that mattered to us growing Yeah, okay, Um,

636
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: we didn't grow up Buckeyes. We didn't you know, we

637
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: didn't grow up Browns fans. We grew up you know,

638
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: fans of my dad's teams. And uh. And that probably

639
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: disconnected me from all the things that you're talking about, Mark,

640
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: because and and to be honest, I probably uh was

641
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: as much of a Michigan fan growing up as as

642
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: as anything um and and UM. I don't particularly even

643
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: remember all those reasons. UM, but I yeah, I grew up.

644
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: I grew up a Canton McKinley Bulldog fan, and then

645
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: everything else was just kind of on the outside. It's

646
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: interesting hear you say that, because I was a Marinette

647
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Marine fan forever, and just like you, I can I

648
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: can remember the guys that played for for my dad.

649
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: I can remember being the same like you talked. I

650
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you about that run around on the

651
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: sideline as a little kid. I mean, I was just

652
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: doing that all the time. Those are the guys that

653
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: I grew up. I wanted to be like Marinette Marines.

654
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I can't be Houston that I realized,

655
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: holy cow, there's another world of there's another world of

656
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: of football out there. But your time at Michigan and

657
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: just being at the Big House, being with Pep there

658
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: at Michigan, I can't remember if you were on the

659
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: staff they went to Rome, where you on the staff

660
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: they ended up. That was a year that was a

661
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: year ahead of ahead of me being there. Jim was

662
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: always kind of pushing the envelope with different things. What

663
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: was it like to work for Jim and to be

664
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: there with the Wolverines. Um, it's uh, it's what you

665
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: just said. He pushes the envelope. He's uh. He thinks

666
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: outside the box on how he approaches the game, how

667
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: he approaches the program and and uh and does a

668
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: great job building the program. Um, you know, for the

669
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: players to coaches. Um. And obviously he has done a

670
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: great job at the university. All right. So after a

671
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: living in ann Arbor, Denver, suburban New York, when you're

672
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: at Rutgers all these different places, how you're leaving out

673
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of places. Yeah, I know, I can't go

674
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: through them all. But what do you think of Houston

675
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: being here being a resident? Love it? Love it? Um.

676
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: More importantly, my wife loves it h She's a warm

677
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: weather girl. Um. She's from Denver, which wouldn't suggest she's

678
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: a warm weather girl, but um, she went to school

679
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: at Arizona UM. And I think she's been stamped that

680
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: way since. So more importantly, she loves it here. We've

681
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the community, really love the people, really love

682
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: all the things that we get to do with our kids.

683
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: Are our kids are young almost nine six and one,

684
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: So as a million thanks for us to do with

685
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: our kids and for the most of our we get

686
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: to do it outside. All right, coach, thanks a lot

687
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: for joining us school bas guys appreciate. There's Josh McDaniels,

688
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: Wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator for your Texans

689
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Miles Smith coming up linebackers coach. Let's talk to him

690
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: about his group next here on Texans Radio. Final guests

691
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: tonight on Texans All Access. As we're catching up with

692
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. Is Miles Smith, linebackers coach, the coach's son,

693
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: his boss. His job pretty much remains the same in

694
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Well, with me personally, I don't think

695
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of change. You know, we still

696
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: have the same defensive coordinator as far as I'm concerned. Yeah,

697
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna keep doing the same things we've been doing.

698
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: And it might be a guy you know for a

699
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: while that might help a little bit. It does. I

700
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: asked him this question, and having been and having been

701
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: a coaches kid, I always wondered what I knew what

702
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: it was like to play for my dad. I don't

703
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: know what have been like to coach with my pops?

704
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: How is it for you? Does that even come into

705
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: play at all? I know when we talked, he was like,

706
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Miles and I were talking about twenty four seven, How

707
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: is it coaching with your pops? Well, first off, I

708
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: did not know you're a coach's kid. That's awesome, he

709
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: went up in my book. You know, coaching with him

710
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: has been an absolute blessing as much as anything. I'm

711
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: able to work with somebody who is well known for

712
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: linemacker play, defensive play. So before I even go to

713
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: the familial thing, I think that that's the biggest thing

714
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: that six out to me. Yea, what made you decide

715
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: to get into the profession, Miles? I mean, obviously you

716
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: had somebody to look up to and to inspire you,

717
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: but what else? You know? I just love ball, you know,

718
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: every fall of my life it's been about football season.

719
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: And when I got older, started thinking about what I

720
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: actually want to do with my life, and I couldn't

721
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: think of anything better than coaching football every day. Miles,

722
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: You're at University Illinois coaching college. Come to the NFL?

723
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: Was the biggest difference from college to the NFL as

724
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: far as coaching gameplay. Imagine the games faster. I know

725
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: when I go watch college games now, I'm like, wow, man,

726
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: the NFL is really that much faster. What were the

727
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: differences like for you going from college coaching college to

728
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. Well, the first thing is now

729
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: having to recruit. You know, you have a lot more

730
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: time just to focus on the ex's nose. Gameplay wise,

731
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: the game is definitely a lot faster. Players are faster, bigger, stronger,

732
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So that is something that

733
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: comes into play. But ultimately, when it comes down to

734
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: a football, still football, So I don't think there's that

735
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: much of a difference. What was the welcome to the

736
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: NFL moment back to the NFL, because you were with

737
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: the Bucks before. Then you go to Illinois, but you're

738
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: back in the NFL. And then was there a certain

739
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: time where you just said, wow, this is different. I

740
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: know you said football is football, but it had to

741
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: be really interesting to you to be out here for

742
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: OTA's last spring. Absolutely. I think the first thing was,

743
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I was used to spring ball,

744
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: where you know, you have to be there and dealing

745
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: with a situation where you know things all Ary kind

746
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: of had to attack it a little bit differently. You know,

747
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: maybe it can't be as hard as you may want

748
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: to be you want to scare guys off. But other

749
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: than that, again, I just don't think there's a whole

750
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of difference Biles. Last year it was an interesting

751
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: group because in training camp I think there were eight

752
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: linebackers in training camp from remember correctly seven of them

753
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: grizzled vets, if you will. Then you add a rookie

754
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: and Garrett Wallow kind of trying to merge that group

755
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: together and coach that group. What was it like coaching

756
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: that group last year in particular, because you did have

757
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: so many vets and yet then you had this green

758
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Garrett Wallow coming from TCU. What was it kind of

759
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: like coaching that group last year? Well, I think things

760
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: were a little different last year because we might have

761
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of vets, but we didn't have a

762
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of vets that were here the years prior to it,

763
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: so everybody learned the system for the first time. There

764
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: really wasn't a huge difference at first. Obviously, being a VET,

765
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: you kind of know a little bit more about what

766
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: to expect, and Garrett kind of had to figure a

767
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: little bit more of that out as he went, but he,

768
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of has a a vet mentality,

769
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: I should say, so he attacked it and by the

770
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: end of the sea and there really wasn't a big

771
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: difference between Well, we talked to Como and people like

772
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: Dak Christian Kirksey and they loved the system. So what

773
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: is it about this system that players love and that

774
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: you love to coach. Well, once you give them the

775
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: base rules that they have to go with on each play,

776
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: it allows linebackers to play fast and there's a lot

777
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: of I guess they had the freedom to do a

778
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: lot of different things where they could put checks on plays,

779
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: they could do a lot where our linebackers really are

780
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of the defense. So if you're somebody that

781
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: wants to take charge and wants to really lead linebackers

782
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a way to go in our system. And I think

783
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: over the years we've shown that Miles last year about

784
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: this time, we're still trying to figure out what the

785
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: linebacker crew is supposed to be. And that obviously is

786
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: one difference from college to the NFL. I guess the

787
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: transfer portal has changed a little bit, but you sure

788
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: know by this time what you're gonna have in your

789
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: stable of linebackers once you get ready as your approach

790
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: spring ball. Right now, you're going, well, I don't know

791
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: where we're gonna sign this guy. We do know Garrette here,

792
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: you know Guarretteer. That's a that's a good start. But

793
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: is it disruptive for you at all? And sense the

794
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: fact that I don't know, we don't know who we're

795
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna have, and we're probably not gonna know until obviously

796
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the draft comes by, maybe there's a draft pick, maybe

797
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: there's some guys sign. Is it disruptive at all or

798
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: how does it change things for you kind of knowing

799
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: what your stable of linebackers is heading into the season. Well,

800
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: I think at this point it's not too big of

801
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: a big deal, just because you know, we're not really

802
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: working one on one with the players yet. So by

803
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: the time we're really getting gonna get going, there's gonna

804
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: be a stable of linebackers and whoever we have, we're

805
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna go with. Yeah, obviously we're gonna have a little

806
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: bit more, you know, a little bit different of a

807
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: room probably next year. But hopefully we're gonna have some

808
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: continuity there. All right, So what about Houston? What do

809
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: you think of the city? Living here, being here, of

810
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I would say the first thing

811
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: that comes to mind is this winner was awesome. You know.

812
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: I used to you know, shoveling driveways and that type

813
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: of thing. And you know, my wife and I we've

814
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: never lived in Texas, so just the weather aspect has

815
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: been something that, uh, I'm not looking forward to, uh leaving.

816
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: What is it like for you when you hear your

817
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: dad talk about Texas with the love that he has

818
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: for the load Star state, and here you are describing

819
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: being here for the first time long term? You know,

820
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: I it was hard for me to really understand before

821
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: I came down here. I've always heard the stories about

822
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: Texas and just to be a Textan what that really means.

823
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: And I kind of, you know, I'll roll my eyes

824
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: at it. But being down here now, there's just a

825
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: it's just it's just different down here. It's it's hard

826
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: to put words on it, but just you know, everybody,

827
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: when you say you're a Texan, it means something to

828
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: other Texans. You know. He'll talk about you know, apparently

829
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: there's a there's some song they all sing in school,

830
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: and all these deals that you know from Illinois, I

831
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm just not used to, so it. Uh, there's definitely

832
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: just a you know, a common element to that. Whereas

833
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: pledge of allegiance, Yes, that's what exactly exactly. So where

834
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: do you claim home? Chicago? Where you play home? Absolutely?

835
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: I went to college up there as well, so definitely Chicago.

836
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: So like Lake Forest? Right? Lake Forest? What is that? Like?

837
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: Lake Forest is one of the best places out there

838
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: that is home. You know, I went to high school

839
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: in college there. You know, it's just different, you know,

840
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: obviously as close as Chicago, but it's far enough away

841
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: and right on the beach like Michigan. There's really nothing

842
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: better than that. Okay, you your dad skirted this question,

843
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: and I can understand why. But I asked him one time,

844
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: was there a player that he enjoyed coaching more than

845
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: the other? And I understand the fact he just want

846
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: to say, because you know, he said at one time

847
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: and then the guy called him like, hey, coach, what

848
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: about me? But growing up, was there a player that

849
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: you loved watching more than any other? Whether you played

850
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Speaker 1: for your dad or not. Was there a guy that

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Speaker 1: you loved watching more than the other? Yes, absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 1: um Brian Urlocker. There's something about Brian. Obviously he's a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer now, but he wasn't a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer because he was the best athlete out there. He

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Speaker 1: was a pretty good athlete, but he was able to

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Speaker 1: rise his game up just because he was an intelligent

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Speaker 1: football player, and it showed that being the quarterback of

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Speaker 1: the defense, you could impact a game more than any

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Speaker 1: guy that could jump fifty inches and run a four

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Speaker 1: three forty. You bring up a great point with r

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Speaker 1: Locker because I think when people watched Irlocker from Afar,

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Speaker 1: knowing the defense that y'all run, you look at it

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Speaker 1: go Erlocker was a great fit. But that fit for Irlocker.

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Speaker 1: How important is fit for a linebacker into your defense, Miles,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's more of a mental fit than

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Speaker 1: it is a physical fit. Yeah, we want to have

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Speaker 1: great athletes. Coach Smith always talks about that, but you

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Speaker 1: have to be an intelligent football player to play in

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Speaker 1: our system. You have to know the ins and outs

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Speaker 1: of it, and you really have to be a coach

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Speaker 1: on the field. I think that's the biggest fit there is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you tell if a guy has that or not?

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Speaker 1: Does that surface at a young age or can it

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Speaker 1: be developed? Does it need to be developed? I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that's a loaded question, but tell us about that part

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Speaker 1: of it. Because when you say that Brian Urlacker was

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Speaker 1: not the greatest athlete in the world, yet you look

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Speaker 1: at what he did, that's incredible stuff right there. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be disrespectful of the Brian. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there's an element of both of those. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think you have to have a natural intelligence. Obviously in

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Speaker 1: the world you can't you know, just can't wing it

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Speaker 1: like that. But I do think there's the other side

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Speaker 1: of it. If you are a hard working player and

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Speaker 1: you're willing to grind your butt off, then you're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to develop a certain understanding of our

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Speaker 1: defense that somebody who may be more naturally intelligent isn't

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Speaker 1: going to be able to develop. Miles, great stuff, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Good luck, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. There's Texans linebackers coach Miles Smith

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Speaker 1: joining us on Texans All Access. Thank you everyone for

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Speaker 1: listening tonight. Thank you Austin for producing have a great

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Speaker 1: night everyone. Tomorrow night we'll have Nick Casserio on the show,

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Speaker 1: Go Texans,