1 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Renee Stubs. 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Hey, Katelyn, Wow Wow wow wow. Do you actually exist 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: in the podcast world of the Rene Stubs Center's podcast anymore. 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: I have been lurking. I've been lurking on all of 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: these French Connection episodes because they're so good, and also 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: because you know that there's almost nothing I love more 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: in tennis, and if there is one thing, it's the Olympics. 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: That's a true fact, you know. I like the Olympics. 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Listen, I love the Olympics so much. I have been 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: watching the Australian swimming trials of a morning because the 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: finals are of a morning. The heats are at night, 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: which aren't anywhere near as exciting, clearly because the heats 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of sort of matter but sort of don't. But 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: the finals are amazing, to the point that this morning 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: we had two swimmers in the women's two hundred meter 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: freestyle break the world record that was held by one 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: of them, Molly O'Callahan. O callahan and Ariana Titmas broke 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: it and beat o callahan by about a millisecond. So 19 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: it was just an amazing race. So it just got 20 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: me so pumped for the two hundred freestyle. First of all, 21 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: at the Olympics, which will include some great Americans and 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: of course another a young Canadian. So I'm just like, 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: swimming to me is like when you grow up in Australia, 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: you don't have to understand something. Swimming is like hockey, 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: like ice hockey right to Canadians. You're a Canadian, and 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: so swimming is like our pastime. Like you get thrown. 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: I got thrown in the pool when I was like 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: two and said kick and Paul and good luck, like 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: it's just in our bloodstream. And you know, swim as 30 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: a superstars in Australia, whereas in the US, for example, 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: unless your name is Katie Ladecci. And even Katie Ladecki 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: probably wasn't known by a lot of people in this country. 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Like she could probably walk by one hundred people in 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: New York and they'd be like, who's that, you know 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's a shame that swimming doesn't 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: get a lot more publicity because goddamn, it's a hard sport. 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: So I am pumped already. I'm watching the Australian swim 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: trials and actually speaking of the Olympics, as we've been 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: talking about, and I've been talking a lot already is. 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: I think July sixteenth is the start of the American 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: trials to get into the American Olympic team, so it's 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: going to be just fuck it. I love the Olympics, dude. 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I love it. You know, Joe Wilfred Sunger was carrying 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: the Olympic torch today or yesterday, and wow his hometown 45 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: and I believe he's from southern France. Cool to see 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: the flame torch slowly making its way to Paris ahead 47 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: of the Games. I love that it goes to all 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: the corners of the country, goes through all the towns. 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Everyone can get excited about it. You know, there's no 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that the IOC and the people 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: who run the Olympics couldn't seem to be more corrupt 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: and awful and the works. It doesn't keep me from 53 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: loving the Olympics because it's truly the best of humanity. 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: It's like FIFA. I mean, I don't know if it's 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: a toss up between FIFA and the IOC of who's 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: the most corrupt and and the worst. 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: That's a that's a race that would have been like 59 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: today's race with Molly and Ariana, I would have. 60 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Been millimeters neck and millimeters milic. 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: Fingertip. But having said that, we all love the World 62 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Cup and we all love. 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Sports, is the best. To me, what I love about 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: the Olympics is that everybody has their sport that they 65 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: like the most, or many sports that they like the most, 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: which is you. But for me, what I like about 67 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: the Olympics so much is it is everybody's time to 68 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: everybody gets into it. You can get into multiple sports, 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: you can only care about your one sport. You can 70 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: care about just a random obscure sport that you only 71 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: see every so often. Like I just love that it's 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: for everyone. It's for everyone. Everyone has a way into 73 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: the Olympics. And I dare you listeners to give me 74 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: a reason that you don't like the Olympics, because I 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: don't think you can. And even for people who don't 76 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: like sports, watching the Olympic opening ceremonies and seeing all 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: the outfits is the Olympics of fashion basic. I've already 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: had multiple conversations with people about how some of these 79 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: kit reveals for what fashion will be revealed during them 80 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: or not with the or maybe overly revealed with the 81 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: toga Togo's you know, flame throwing. Those guys are nude 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: and covered in oil. Like, it's amazing. I love it. 83 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: France's team will be wearing I believe BRIONI and if 84 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: they're styled by Korean Routefeld, who used to be French 85 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: Bergues editor in chief, Like, we need to step it up. 86 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: Who's staling Americans. I'm not talking about the fashion brands. 87 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about who do we have a creative 88 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: director on this? Like Ralph? 89 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: Is it Ralph Lauren? 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Again? 91 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: For the Americans, Well, there'll be a lot of red, 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: white and blue. 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: My friend, they just stepped out a yacht. 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 95 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: Well it's kind of the bible American America gives. 96 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Us, I know. But anyway, we are both very excited 97 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: about the Olympics coming up, and I for one, will 98 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: be glued to the swimming. I'll be glued to watch 99 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 2: some own biles make it comeback to in the Olympics 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: at gymnastics. What a great story. They're just so many 101 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: great stories. I can't get enough of it. It's like 102 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: so depressing when it's over. It's kind of like the 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Grand Slans. I'm a little depressed. The French is over 104 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: and but I'm getting very excited about Wimbledon. So you know, 105 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: that's the way it is. We have a plethora of 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: thoughts to just digest this year, and you know my 107 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: love with the WNBA right now, so I'm just loving 108 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: it all. 109 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: No, it's amazing, I think. Now. What makes me so 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: excited is that sports has truly, truly started to live 111 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: up to its promise, not just not just people in 112 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: America who love the NFL, not just Europeans who love football, 113 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: not just this country who loves their thing. Like it 114 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: seems like all of these sports have gone global, and 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: all of these sports are sort of unifying, like is 116 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: there a huge cricket following here in the US, especially 117 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: like you know South Asian enclaves not so much? Like 118 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: sure are people that into Badmanute and Asia? 119 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: Have you seen the crowds out of the T twenty 120 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: on Long Island? There's the T twenty Woke up is 121 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: on here and it was packed the other day because 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: Pakistan we're playing India and cool Bourban fans, so that 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: was packed. And I had a friend that went great. 124 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: Wasn't very well organized, but it was a great. It 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: was great one. And as you can Maitlan is dealing 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: with the ambulance outside of her apartment. 127 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: Me. 128 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: I am in a perfect quiet apartment building and she's 129 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: sitting next to the window. Just let me all take 130 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: it in the New York background. 131 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: This is what's happening on the Lower East Side. Guys, 132 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: we got to keep it real well. Listen, I don't 133 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: want to make you do a French Open recap because 134 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: you've been doing French Ship in show after show after show. 135 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: The recaps have been amazing. Andy was amazing, Sam's been amazing, 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Juell Lloyd amazing tennis player. I mean, all the guests 137 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: have been starllar. Starting of lids, we. 138 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: Only get the sports athletes that are well known that 139 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: have won gold medals at the Olympics, which both of 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: them have, and they are obsessed with tennis, and both 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: of them are obsessed with tennis and not bad. I 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: got to say, I haven't seen Juel play, but apparently 143 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: she's pretty good, and Lindsay's sending me videos and she's 144 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: getting better and better all the time. And for somebody 145 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: who just had knee replacement to get back on the 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 2: court as quickly as she's done, I give her tons 147 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: of credit. So both of them just obsessed with tennis. 148 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: So we're going to keep doing that, but we thought 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: we'd give you a little bit of the old Stubbs 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: and the old Tomo again. That's right, that's what you 151 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: would be in Australia. So Caitlin, Yeah, the French Open, 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: it was awesome. One interesting fact about the US Open, 153 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: the French Open is that no more NBC, no more 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Tennis Channel. It is now Warner Media. Therefore like T 155 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: and T, so basically they lost the NBA, so they 156 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: had shiploads of money to spend and they decided to 157 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: spend it on tennis. What do we think about this? 158 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: I hope they keep spending Well, yeah, I know. 159 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: But what do you think about it going from Tennis 160 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: Channel NBC to Warner You. 161 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Know, I've been very critical of Tennis Channel for a 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: lot of years for a lot of reasons, and I 163 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: actually think they're coverage generally has gone a lot better 164 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: in the last couple of months, maybe the last year. 165 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: They've increased their roster. I like what they're doing some 166 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: of their channels. I think T two is a good offering. 167 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: I like that show Second Serve. It's fun, it's vibrant, 168 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: it can keeps it moving. It's a good sort of 169 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: like second screen companion show. I am gonna miss hearing 170 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: Mary Carillo on NBC. I hope to god she finds 171 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: a job with this new regime because to me, nobody's 172 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: better than Mary Carillo at calling big matches. No, I 173 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: love you very much, you're great at tactics, but Mary 174 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: Carilla is my north dark you know that, you know what, 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: I'd be honest about it. 176 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: You've just given you shit, man. 177 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Mary Carrilla is to me the best, and making the 178 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: case for Mary to join this new team hopefully shouldn't 179 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: be so hard because it's actually kind of the old team, 180 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: so Discovery Warner as we know CNT as you said, 181 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: but they also own HBO or what has become of HBO, 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: which is called Max, and HBO has all of the 183 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: old archives for Wimbledon and a ton of old archives 184 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: for many, many many tennis entities, including like a lot 185 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: of old World Team Tennis matches. So my hope is 186 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: somehow we can revive a lot of this old archival 187 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: material because the people at HBO slash Discovery slash Warner 188 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: slash whatever conglomorate you want to call it care enough 189 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: about tennis to buy this thing. Look in past, people 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: who buy tennis don't necessarily care enough about it to 191 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: make it good. I'm looking at you Amazon, I'm looking 192 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: at you certainly, Tennis Channel. I have a lot of 193 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: critiques of the ESPN broadcasts. You're not one of them. 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: You're the best one, you and Darren. But like I 195 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: do think that there are some people on the ESPN 196 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: broadcast who need to go candidly and it's been a 197 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: long time since they played a pro match and they 198 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of prep necessarily, and it's just 199 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: it's it's I got to see it going. So honestly, 200 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if they all ended up on Warner. 201 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: I think that would be a good outcome. Well, are 202 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: in the same place, and there's a broadcast component, so 203 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: it's not just on OTT. 204 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: Well listen, I am an independent contractor, so anyone out 205 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: there at want to be home me. I am available. 206 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm also fun and I take us very seriously, and 207 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: I think that's the vibe of you know, when you 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: think about the way that they covered the NBA, that's 209 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: kind of perfect. That's right up my alley. I'm just saying, 210 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: so we'll see who they decide to bring onto their 211 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, list of commentators and hosts and all that 212 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But it's a ten year deal, so 213 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: they will be there for a long time, and you 214 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: know what, it's going to be fun. It'll be I mean, listen, 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit disappointed that the East ben didn't 216 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: pick it up just so we would have all four 217 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: Grand Slams. But hey, listen, new Blood French Open, it's 218 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: a it'll be a different vibe. I'm excited for it, 219 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you. So we'll see how 220 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: it goes. 221 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: I like when people throw their hat in the ring. 222 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: I like when people get new blood. I like when 223 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: people get excited about things. And I like when there's 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a disruptor, you know. I think one thing that's happened 225 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: in tennis in every component of the sport, with the 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: exception of some of this like infrastructure, is like more 227 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: people are playing more recreational stuff, more people are buying tickets. 228 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, the AMX pre sales sold out of the 229 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: US Open essentially, and nobody could buy tickets, which is 230 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: both a good and a bad thing. But like you know, 231 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: tennis is. Tennis is on fire in a way that 232 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: it hasn't been really since like the heyday in the 233 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, and we not use is to really 234 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: optimize itself. And I think for me that the days 235 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: in which you can get away with not doing that 236 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: are numbered. And anybody who comes to the space new 237 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: with a bunch of money and a lot of motivation, 238 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: I will assume the best until I improve it otherwise. 239 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: And so far, a new entrant buying a slam, let's 240 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: give them the benefit of doubt. Assume they're going to spend 241 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: enough to make it really good, and hopefully it will be, 242 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: and it'll be either a kick in the ass for 243 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: everybody else to do better, or competition that that'll that'll 244 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: that'll drive the quality up, or either or both. 245 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: Well, we know they're putting a lot of money into it. 246 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: Ten years is a long time the final number. I 247 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: can pull that up, but it's a lot. We know 248 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: how popular tennis is because we went to try and 249 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: play tennis today on the east side of the I know, 250 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: and I ended up staying and waiting for a court. 251 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Can you imagine I'm standing there waiting for a fucking 252 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: tennis court. But that was me on the East side 253 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: of New York City today and I had to wait. 254 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh good hour I was there. Well, I got there 255 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: at ten thirty, I think, yeah, I got no what 256 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: time were we supposed to hit ten thirty? I went 257 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: in tught around eleven thirty or something like that. So 258 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: I waited an hour. But there were people behind me. 259 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: There were four people in front of me. It was crazy. 260 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: So don't tell me the tennis isn't popular. And by 261 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: the way, New York City, just take a look at 262 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: the tennis courts and how many people waiting to get 263 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: on them. Where you stupid people keep building fucking pickleball 264 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: courts in Central Park. 265 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, are they are they still. 266 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: Didn't they put that pickleball thing back up in Central Parks. 267 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: I just feel like this is like it's a ticking 268 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: tab button, Like this is truly the n FT of sports. 269 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Like at this point, are we are we? Like are 270 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: we at the point where everyone realizes that their apes 271 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: are all stolen? Or we at the point where everyone's 272 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: NFTs are worthless? Like I feel like we're rounding into 273 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: between one and going to the other. 274 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: No, remember the NFTs. Whatever happened to them? 275 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean people came to me and talk to 276 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: me about NFTs. Oh, I've got this NFT startup bracketally 277 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: should do all these NFTs. You guys should make every 278 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: cover into an NFT. I was like, look, I don't 279 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: understand what this thing is. It's for doors, I can 280 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: tell you that much. And hard pass. No thanks. Oh 281 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: you're so stupid. You're gonna make miss all this money. 282 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: It's like, look, I've already missed all this money on 283 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: other stuff. I'm not trying to miss the money on 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: this door key thing. Like you know what, Like I'll 285 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: go down, I go down trying something cool. I'm not 286 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: going down on this nonsense. And you guys putting all 287 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: your apes and your avtars like oh that's right. 288 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, well listen, I know how much you 289 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: love the fact that you guess you take one another 290 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: French open. But you know, here's the thing, Caitlin, Because 291 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: I had a bit of an argument with the one 292 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: or two people on Twitter as I do on a database. 293 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: What am I telling you you caim somebody. 294 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: Because you're going to agree with this person. This person 295 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I just I can't. It's eager. She's 296 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: you know, just not appealing. She's not this, She's not that. 297 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: I'll read you the exact tweet because I don't want to, 298 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: you know, put words in somebody else's mouth, as people 299 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: do with me all the time. But it's like, and 300 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: I wrote back, and I was just like, why does 301 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: she have to be entertaining? Why does she have to 302 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: make you feel better about yourself? This is arguably one 303 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: of the greatest players we've seen on a clay court ever. 304 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: You know, she is up there now and when you 305 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: show the numbers that she's doing what she's doing on 306 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: the clay court, it's phenomenal. And I am I have 307 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: said that I think she can win upwards of ten 308 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: French opens. So I just I want to hear it 309 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: from you because you're like on the side of this person. 310 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: You're not really you're not really an eager fan. It's 311 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: because of X, because of why, And I want to 312 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: know why. 313 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think for me knowing you and 314 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: knowing how smart you are, especially when it comes to 315 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: the tactics of the game, understanding the mentality of the game, 316 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, there really is almost nobody else said rather 317 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: including Mark Rollo, who was always a great color commentator, 318 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: But as an analyst, I don't know that anybody is 319 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: better than you and Darren at breaking down. Here's the mechanics, 320 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: here's why this is bouncing up on her, Here's why 321 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: the serve is, you know, trending left because she's opening 322 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: your shoulder. Like, I learned so much listening to you guys, 323 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it and I think it's great. But 324 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: what you just described to me, and what you're attempting 325 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: to bait me into as a very good friend, is 326 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: the difference of opinions. Yeah, that's fine, but why does 327 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: it this person doesn't find her entertaining? Are you going 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: to convince this person to find her entertaining by telling 329 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: her or him all these great stats? Is that going 330 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: to change how watching EGA makes feel emotionally? If somebody says, listen, Renee, 331 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I just really don't like chocolate ice cream, I really 332 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: like vanilla, are you going to list off the properties 333 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: of chocolate and why it's superior and expect them to 334 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: change their taste? Buds? I will refer you to an 335 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: article that our good friend Andrea wrote in her very 336 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: very good substack finite Jest that comes out every Friday. 337 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: You should subscribe to it. 338 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: Did you raise brand of it? 339 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: And I did? And what I liked about it was 340 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: it was comparing and contrasting the way that even herself 341 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: included IgA Zverev, Djokovic, others work the point. They work 342 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: the point. It's work. Players that I like play the point. 343 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: They have joy, creativity, Carlitos Odds for better or worse better, 344 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the Francesca Scavones of the world, the Justine Hennahs, 345 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: the Last Halloween Palloeeni right. And so for me it 346 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: was a very useful breakdown and what is it that 347 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: is appealing to me? And I like the play, I 348 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: don't like the work. I know that there's so much 349 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: work that goes into being able to play, as anyone 350 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: who listened to Roger Fetter's excellent Dartmouth graduation speech. And 351 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: so all I can say is, while I share this 352 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: person's opinion, and I share your desire to defend this 353 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: woman who is going to be all these things that 354 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: you say she is. She is going to win all 355 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: these grand slam She is going to be a beacon 356 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: of perfect footwork and incredible RPMs. On the forehand, she 357 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: has improved her serve, She's gotten ten miles more on it. 358 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: I can sit here and look at all the stats 359 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: and be really impressed, but I won't be moved because 360 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: the truth is she's chocolate and I like vanilla. And 361 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: that's it. 362 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is the fucking most Switzerland way 363 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: of saying what you have said to me. 364 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: I just think I just don't like watching your plate 365 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: tennis all that. 366 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: This is, This is where I have a problem. This 367 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: person said, that's my opinion. I heard you the first time, 368 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: so do you Yes, I heard you the first time. 369 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: But my issue in this circumstance is what I'm talking about, 370 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: as this person says, I just can't with schon tech. 371 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: She doesn't have Sabalanca's charisma and what let me finish, 372 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: She doesn't have Sabalankas charisma or charm or remarking as 373 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: exciting power hitting tennis. She obviously unnaturally gifted tennis player, 374 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 2: which is again not correct. She is not naturally gifted. Okay, 375 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: naturally gifted is Roger Federer. It's you know, Molima Resma, 376 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: like you know, there's like naturally gifted is one thing 377 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: that she's a little bit more of a manufactured player, right, 378 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: So that was wrong. Naturally gifted tennis player, but she's 379 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: so awkward and unappealing to me. Wish I wish I 380 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: didn't feel this way. 381 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Roland Garris, So this person was looking for hug not 382 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: getting yelled at. 383 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeap So I said, honestly, she is who she is. 384 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Who she is, an incredibly shy young woman who's a 385 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: really good tennis player. Why do players have to entertain 386 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: you with their smile or face or looks. Why can't 387 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: people just appreciate the absolute enormous talent this young woman is, 388 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: my god, that was my response. So my thing is saying, 389 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm just saying if this person is awkward and shy 390 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: and all the things that she is, naturally that's who 391 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: she is. There's a lot of people that would have 392 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: said back thirty years ago that Stephie is boring and 393 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: not appealing and not exciting and all the things that 394 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: they're sort of describing egerciontek as and it's just not 395 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: the case. And my thing is, you can't change somebody. 396 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: You can't change if you're chocolate to be vanilla, and 397 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: she is giving everything that she can do the sport 398 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: as well as she can. And I'm not okay with 399 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: people going on Twitter or on social media's and saying 400 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: things like, you know, she's so awkward and unappealing to me. 401 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: Like that to me is like, why can't you say, listen, 402 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: I think she's great player, blah blah blah, all the things. 403 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: I just wish, you know, she had a little bit more. 404 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: I mean, actually nothing. I just wish people wouldn't fucking 405 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: go on Twitter and say things about great tennis players 406 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: about things that they can't change about themselves. Do you 407 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? 408 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: No, I think you well, I think you just I 409 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: think you just disagree with this person and you're looking 410 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: for an intellectual aup but. 411 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: You don't have you and I have this argument all 412 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: the time about her. 413 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think you understand where I'm coming from. 414 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: No, you just want you want slashy, dashy, fun drop shots, 415 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: a little bit of this and a little bit of that. 416 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: But that doesn't make you contechill not win a tennis 417 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 2: match doing that. So she has to be this person. 418 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't want her to change. I just don't need 419 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: to be a fan of hers and neither does this person, 420 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: and you trying to make them into the fan is 421 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: the same as you're accusing this person of trying to 422 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: make Maybe this person doesn't want you get to play differently. 423 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't want you to play differently. I just don't 424 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: want to watch her play tenants. 425 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. 426 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, here's the blessing I'll say about this 427 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: My probably my favorite player of all time. My favorite 428 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: player of all time was similarly awkward. She was similarly 429 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: not glamorous. She was similarly definitely not a locker room favorite. 430 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: Ego seems way more beloved than this one. Was also 431 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: wore a hat and obscured her face. Also had some 432 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of strange interaction with other people on the tour, 433 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: people who accused her of cheating probably honestly, credibly, And 434 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: she was my favorite player on the tour. Would I 435 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: like to hang out with her and have a beer? 436 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: Absolutely not? But did I think her game was breathtaking 437 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: and transcendent in such a way that. 438 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: It, oh, my God, showed me. 439 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Possibilities of what the sports should be. You know who 440 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: it is? Not? I Justine Hannah. 441 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, no, but come on, you just see. 442 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: The do you see the similarities. 443 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: Because everyone always talked about, oh my god, her backhand, 444 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: her one hand and back end, she's such a beautiful. 445 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: But she didn't have charisma, she wasn't liked, she was awkward. 446 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: She did like her game, you liked how she played correct. 447 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: And so my point is that's why I don't like Ego, 448 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: not because of all those other things. And I think 449 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: maybe this person on the internet is kind of trying 450 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: to say the same thing. I don't wish Ego played differently. 451 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: I just wish different people want. Well, so I watched. 452 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't watch the women's final. 453 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I can honestly say, and you've heard 454 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: me say this on many occasions. Have I not said 455 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: that Jasmine Paulini is one of my favorite players to watch? 456 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: Have I not said that on our pod? 457 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: She's literally you can't you can't not say it on 458 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: our party. 459 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: My favorite player that I've like. I literally go up 460 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: to her, you can ask her this question. I went 461 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: up tour in Cincinnati a couple of years ago. Is 462 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: when I was working with Sam and she I think 463 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: Sam with Ei the hitting with her, or she was 464 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: hitting before or something, And I said Jasmine just so 465 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, you're my favorite player, and she started laughing. 466 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: I'm serious, you're my favorite player. So I'm so happy 467 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: that she had such a great French Open. Carlos and 468 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: Yannick semi was unbelievable. Yanik going to number one in 469 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: the world very deserved. It's a twelve month rotation. A 470 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: lot of people like, well, is he number one? Carlos 471 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: beat him? Blah blah blah. That's what happens over twelve 472 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: month period. Is also the Australian Open champion. So calm 473 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: the farm everybody. 474 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Now. 475 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: Carlos has two Grand Slams on the calendar, and that 476 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: just proves you how much more consistent Yanick was on 477 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: tour since this moment last year till now right that 478 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: he wonted moments our. Karaz has been injured quite a bit, 479 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: so that's another reason why Yanick's number one and Carlos 480 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 2: is number two. But it'll be interesting see and they 481 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: will be one and two at Wimbledon. So thankfully if 482 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: they get through again, they will play each other in 483 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: the final and not in the semifinals. 484 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Look, Alex Zurup is that in the mix. 485 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: I'll be hard well, I was right on saying that 486 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: he would choke in the final. I did say he 487 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: was going to get to the final. 488 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he played great tennis and then he choked it. 489 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. But I just I'm I'm here for Carlos, 490 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm here for Yanick. I'm here for them for the 491 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: next ten years. And that's how I feel about it. 492 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: Naomi Osaka, I did mention on Twitter, it's you folks 493 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: that follow me on the EPs or whatever that hell 494 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: you want to call it. I did. Maybe it was 495 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: a little maybe I was a little excited about how 496 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: well Naomi was playing at the French after she literally 497 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: was one point away from taking out somebody that is 498 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: virtually unbeatable at Roland Garross in Eager Chantec was the 499 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: match of the tournament on the women's side, arguably, And 500 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: I would say that I tweeted out immediately she's going 501 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: to win the US Open. Now, I might be a 502 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: little bit jumping the gun, but I'll tell you what, 503 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: if she plays remotely like she did at the French 504 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: and I feel like she's won a bunch of matches 505 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: in the quarters on the grass that she's playing, I 506 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: think she's a favorite or close to one of the 507 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: favorites to win the US Open, thops totally. 508 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: I think if she can come back and win a 509 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: tough couple rounds and then come within one point of 510 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: beating the eventual champion. The only real match that Ega 511 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: had the entire tournament, and one that she was lucky 512 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: to escape against Naomi on her least favorite surface. Second 513 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: least favorite surface. 514 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: I would say probably called grass. I don't think she 515 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: says comp I see her playing on grass. Her movement 516 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: looks a little bit with What impressed me the most 517 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: about her, not only in fact she's hitting winners all 518 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: over the shop and serving unbelievably well, which is what's 519 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: gonna win our matches on hardcore, is the fact that 520 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: she moved really well on the clay, Like I was impressed. 521 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, she looked fit, she was moving well, she grinded. 522 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: I actually think that's like the best possible outcome, which 523 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: is that she gets confidence, she has no pressure, she 524 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: has a good natural court sort of season, gets herself 525 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: back into sort of fighting and grinding shape, and gets hungry. 526 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: She looked hungry out there, so hungry in her first 527 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: grass match, the first in five years that she won 528 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: yesterday against Lisa Marten's like she's now one too. She's 529 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: into the third ground and where she served. 530 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: In in her tugbash on it. 531 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right, she's in Libema Open, she's in 532 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: the Netherlands, like, yeah, great tennis is better with her 533 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: in it. It's better with her competing and her being happy. 534 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: And it looks like she's all those things, which I 535 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: think a confidence boost coming out of the French with 536 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: very little expectation is like kind of what the doctor ordered. 537 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like Andrea Pekovich said to me, and I 538 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: think in her in her writings the other day, is 539 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: that Janick Sinner didn't look happy coming off the court 540 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: at the French and I know that Naomi Osaka was 541 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: not happy leaving that court at the French Open as well, 542 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: and that just fuels great champions fire. And those two 543 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: are great champions. They're both Grand Slam champions, both being 544 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: number one in the world. So it's going to be 545 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: interesting to see how they respond and it'll be a 546 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: lot of fun. Andy Murray looks like he's coming down 547 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: the last mountain, my friend, and he lost to Jiron 548 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: today on grass, but going into Wimbledon, it's going to 549 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: have so much support behind him. I don't know just 550 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: her thoughts on you know, Andy Rafa, all these guys 551 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: just coming to the end of the creer. 552 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna like what I have to say. 553 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh I know what you're gonna say. 554 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I just it's time, Like let's keep it moving, Yeah, Andy, 555 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Andy probably should have been done like a year or two. Again, 556 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: I'm not the kind of person who's like they need 557 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: to retire when I say they need to retire, because 558 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I know and they don't. But just like I've seen 559 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: that Andy Murray goodbye tour. I love Andy Murray. I 560 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: want him to go spend time with his kids. It 561 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: doesn't look like he is happy or his body more 562 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: importantly is happy when he plays tennis, So like, what's 563 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: going what's this? Fore? You know, it's like, do you 564 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: not have anything going on at home? I know you 565 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: do because you're cool and you have cool wife and 566 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: you have cool kids. So like maybe one last chance 567 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: at Wimbledon and then shut it down. I don't know, 568 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Like I just I'm ready to be done with all 569 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: these guys. 570 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: I just think he wants to be feel good on 571 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: the tennis court and then be done, and I think 572 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: Wimbledon will be the last we see of Andy Murray, 573 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: the last we might see if Rafa, although I have 574 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: to say, I mean we knew it was an absolute 575 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: shite drawl when he had to play Zverev in the 576 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: very first round of French Open. I mean, how bad 577 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: a draw was that, considering severav ended up making the 578 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: finals and really become very close to winning the tournament. 579 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: I mean it sort of makes you think, should they 580 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: have seeded Rafa? I don't know, but I'll tell you what. 581 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: He looked really good. That's the best I've seen him 582 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 2: play in clearly a long time. Even as much as 583 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: he won leading into the French he didn't look that great. 584 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: He was playing players that he should beat, no problem, 585 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: but just the fact that he was up a break 586 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: sir for the second set, up a break in the third. 587 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: Ended up losing both of those sets, But I think 588 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: that would have given him a ton of confidence. Especially 589 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: with Zvera playing the way he was when he then 590 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: making the finals. He's got to feel like, oh shit, 591 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: what if I get back to rollingd Garrison at the Olympics, 592 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: I might be able to do a little bit of damage, 593 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: especially best of three sets. 594 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: I want to pick that up. I think, get Peter. 595 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I'll be back in two minutes. I'm an I'm just 596 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: getting him downstairs. I think for me with Rafa at 597 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the Olympics, this is only about winning a medal with 598 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: curly Jos Alvarez. Yes, he looked good. He looked better 599 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: than we thought he was going to. I still don't 600 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: think had he played many of the other players, he 601 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: would have even gotten a set. Like, yes, the level 602 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: was better than we thought, but I don't think seating 603 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: him was the right move. Like he's still last really bad. 604 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: We didn't play really bad, really bad. 605 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: Come on, losing really bad is six two six two 606 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: sixty three. That's just why I served for the second 607 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: set and was up. 608 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: He was in the third, up a break in one 609 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: of those sets. 610 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: In both sets, Caitlin, he served for the set in 611 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: the second set, and he played a horrific game, and 612 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: then he lost a tide break, and then he lost 613 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: upper break again in the third. So if he'd had 614 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: more matches under his belt, would he have won that 615 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: second set, no question? 616 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: Or would his legs have fall enough? 617 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: And that's very possible, which is why I brought up 618 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: the part of that he's playing best to three at 619 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: the Olympics, and yes, that another little thing that can 620 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: help him get through a match. 621 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: I actually don't think you should play singles at the Olympics. 622 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: Here's what I think. 623 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: He's one can play singles, I'm. 624 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: Sure, but I don't think he should. If I were coach, 625 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: if I were Uncle Tony, I would say, look, you 626 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: already got a gold singles medal. That's cool. But here's 627 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: what which does rough have a gold doubles medal too? 628 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: Did he win with? 629 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Gold in both. He's golden. He's a golden boy 630 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: in every sense he's here. 631 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I think he should do. I think he should sit 632 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: out doubles singles and play mixed doubles with a newly 633 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: unretired Garbinia Magarutha. 634 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: No, well that's not going to happen. But here's the 635 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: thing that I am hearing, and this is other words 636 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: of Jessica Bagoula, who was on our podcast. The French 637 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: connection was that she was saying, apparently now that you 638 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: can switch out your partners in mixed doubles, and I, yes, 639 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: apparently that's a possible. A new rule is you clearly 640 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: weren't listening to us when we were doing the podcast. 641 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: No, I was listening to it, and I even was 642 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: googling it as she spoke. But I still don't quite 643 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: understand the implication of it. Is she saying that during 644 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: the tournament, I play round one with Rage Brown, Sure, 645 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and then I don't. We don't do so well, but 646 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: we advance round two. I'm with Ben Shelton. Ben. Yeah, 647 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: but just for example, I remind this. 648 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because what they're saying is it's 649 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: an incentive to have everyone play every event right. And 650 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: then also if you are a little bit tired, for example, 651 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: if you played singles and doubles and you're exhausted and 652 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: you've got another mixed doubles and you're like, oh my god, 653 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if I Hey, don't worry. Francis didn't 654 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: play doubles yesterday. He can play for you know, Austin 655 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: Crychek or whoever the team's going to be this time. 656 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: I don't mind it. I think it's a good idea. 657 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: I think it makes it a little bit more team aspect. 658 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: Is that in mixed and doubles. 659 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: I just think in mixed and I'm here for it 660 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: because that I mean for in all. 661 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: Of the events. I actually think more, more team pride, 662 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: the better. To your point, I think the emblinks is 663 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: about representing your country. And if you know you're part 664 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: of the gold winning metal winning squad in mixed doubles, 665 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: even if you didn't play every single match, but you 666 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: helped get clinch the you know whatever, if you if 667 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: you want to match, you helped. So for me, I 668 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: love it. I think more team stuff, I think more 669 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: to me. And this is why I like John core coaching. 670 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: This is why I don't like best of five typically, 671 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: I just want although I've decided that this is a 672 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: year that I just like, don't care about anything anymore. 673 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm not fighting pickaball and not fighting Saudi Arabia, I'm 674 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: not fighting best of fight like I am. You can 675 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: just let them just they can do whatever they want. 676 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: But I do think that the idea of having a 677 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: team competition where more people are incentivized to like get 678 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: in and out and whatever results in the best tennis 679 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: is what we should do. And if that means swapping 680 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: somebody and or swapping rough in for the very end 681 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: of the match so we can finish his career with 682 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: carl If carly cho's Alcarez, that's cool and we should. 683 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: Do playing bubbles together. 684 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's I love that. I'm so into it 685 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: as well. 686 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: I will be covering the Olympics, sadly not from Paris, 687 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: but from Stamford, Connecticut, because that's. 688 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Where which is the Paris of Connecticut, Which. 689 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: Is the Paris of Connecticut. But it isn't. It ain't Paris, Caitlin, 690 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 2: I can tell you that. So again, Warner Media, I'd 691 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: like to go back to the French next year, thank 692 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: you very much. Anyone out there wants to deploy. 693 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: Me, I think if this is if you're going to 694 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: miss any year in Olympics coverage, I've heard Paris is 695 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: a total shit. 696 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: Che Yeah, it's it sounds like a bit of a disaster. 697 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: But you know what, I've heard that a bunch of 698 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: times about a lot of Olympics and the pulling it 699 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: together at the last second. 700 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: So hopefully, actually this is a this is a little 701 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: bit of fan service. And forgive me for shilling in 702 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: this manner, but a guy I used to work with 703 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: in public radio mere moments ago send me a message saying, 704 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: this is a long shot, but I have four tickets 705 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: to the Paris Olympics ten yes, four first round evening 706 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: set Roast twelve on the twenty eighth of July. Do 707 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: I know anyone who wants them? I'm sure I do, 708 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: but as a thank you for listening to the show, 709 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: because somebody want to buy them. I don't know how 710 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: what she's charging, but I'll facilitate the deal if you 711 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: shoot me a note on the twitters, because that is 712 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: where this gentleman is doing business. It's not gonna be 713 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to Paris. I'm going to friends, but 714 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm standing far clearer of Pars. You're going to Cans. 715 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Can we talk about this a little bit. I want 716 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: to get our audience a sense of what you and 717 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: I have been doing when we're not on the show. 718 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: For example, I'll start with me when I'm not. You 719 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: know a gourmet home chef, incredible wife, mother, you know 720 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: a cool dresser, et cetera. I have been busting my 721 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: ass to make sure Racket comes back bigger and better. 722 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: We just sent our twenty fourth issue to the printer. 723 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: It is probably the finest issue we've ever printed. It 724 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: is chock full of incredible stories. Caro Connor is writing 725 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: about a twentieth anniversary of the movie Wimbledon, and she 726 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: got a lot of the people in it, including our 727 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: friend Mary Carolo, to talk about their roles. Murphy Jensen 728 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: plays Ivan Dragomir, the main villain. The director talks about it. 729 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. We have a story about a woman who 730 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: got into the dark arts, and I'll let you decipher 731 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: what exactly that means about her fanship over Roger Federer 732 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: and how much she didn't like one of Fred Fetter's rivals. 733 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: Story is hilarious. 734 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: That story is probably one of my favorite things we've 735 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: ever published, ever, ever, Ever, it is bananas, and we 736 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: had to change the woman's name so she does not 737 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: get death threats. The whole thing was conceived, executed, and 738 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: brought to you by a whole bunch of really thoughtful, 739 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: amazing people, some of which are new to the Wreki universe, 740 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: a lot of which are not. And we shot the 741 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: cover story at west Side Tennis Club with Gucci by 742 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 1: putting everyday players age twenty to ninety in the most 743 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: glorious Gucci plos you can imagine, and photograph them like 744 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: they were walking out at Center Court. So I'm really 745 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: proud of it. I think it's amazing. It's coming out 746 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: July one. You can get your copy now, and then 747 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: soon after that, almost immediately, I'm going to be going 748 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: right back into the studio with my idol, my mentor, 749 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: David Granger of Esquire Fame, to help him guest edit 750 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: issue number twenty five, which I'll tell you more about later. 751 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: So that is a huge amount of what I've been 752 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: doing lately. I'm very proud of it. It's at the 753 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: printer now and you can get your copy. For those 754 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: of you have subscribed to the magazine and wondered, hey, 755 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: what happened to this magazine I subscribe to? Will I 756 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: ever get another issue? The answer to my friend is yes, 757 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: and it's coming to you. And I appreciate everyone's patience 758 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: because it has been hopefully worth the wait. But yeah, 759 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: that is what I've been up to. You've been up 760 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: to all sorts of things, and you're headed to France 761 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: next week. Tell people what is going on when you're 762 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: not dropping all sorts of wisdom bombs on various platforms regarding. 763 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: And nobody really wants to hear about machine ending is. 764 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: But I'm going I think Fline next week, or we're 765 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: going to be doing a lot of stuff for Deep 766 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: Blue Sports and Entertainment and the Female Quotient as well, 767 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: doing some panels and working with some brands and just 768 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: you know, getting into the sphere of the world of 769 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: sports and branding and et cetera. And then I was 770 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: staying on for Wimbledon of course, to bring you the 771 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: coverage of Wimbledon for ESPN. So yeah, and then we've 772 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: got a little Shenanigan happening with iHeartRadio as well. Hopefully 773 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: you're going to be hearing our sumptuous voices coming to 774 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: you very soon on iHeartRadio. Of course, bringing Andrea Pekevich 775 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: back into the fray as well when she decides to 776 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: move get her ask back to New York. So it's 777 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun, we hope and love 778 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: our listeners. I know you guys have been patient. They've 779 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: been asking for Caitlin a lot lately, actors. I don't 780 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: know why, but anyway, she's here. 781 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: I've read about my mum, I'm sure. 782 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we are excited to get onto iHeartRadio 783 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: and to bring that to you on a weekly basilist 784 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: Yesso weekly. 785 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: Weekly basis with copious guest stars. And also for anyone 786 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: who has complained correct clear about our microphones. Sometimes we 787 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: have them, sometimes we break them, sometimes we drop them, 788 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't work. We'll try to be recording a 789 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: lot of it in the studio, which is amazing, and 790 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: we are thankful to the our team for making that available, 791 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: and we're joining an incredible plan up of shows. Some 792 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: of what you've maybe heard a little bit about more 793 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: you'll be hearing from soon as that launch is made. 794 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: I believe it's all being announced and launched at can 795 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: Actually is that ready for it? 796 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: Is? It's going to be had with a lot of 797 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: interesting women. It's a it's an audio, it's a basically 798 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: a network for women's sports only on iHeart. So we're 799 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: really thankful to iHeart for investing in women's sports because 800 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: it's not it's not a moment, it's the moment right 801 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: now with women's sports. So I'm excited. And that's the 802 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 2: spain very different to Ryl Swoops myself, like a lot 803 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: of really cool people are going to be involved, so 804 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: we're excited. 805 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: That's where I want to end it with you today 806 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: because obviously people can listen to us disagree in any way, 807 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: shape or form on any platform, and now that the 808 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: quality of those disagreements will increase in terms of audio 809 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: frequency and by very But I'm really impressed with you, 810 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's really cool, and I want you 811 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: to speak a little bit as we part for today 812 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: about what being part of this larger movement of women's sports, 813 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: optimizing them, going to can to launch things, getting more 814 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: brands involved. Like if you had to tell me over 815 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: the course of your multi decade career being one of 816 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: the most prominent athletes in the world, what is this 817 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 1: moment like watching these people finally get their shit together 818 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: and realizing, oh, hey, this is a product that has 819 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: been under optimized for so long and now everybody's on 820 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: the stick. Like what's that been like? Not as a fan, 821 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: not as a friend of some of these athletes, but 822 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: just like as a person who's been in this ecosystem 823 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: for so long to finally see it get some of 824 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: the support and shine it deserves. 825 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's great. I mean, let's face it, 826 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: this has been happening. It's probably how Billy Jane felt, 827 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: you know, watching the WTA grow as much as it 828 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: did back when she you know, signed a one dollar 829 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: contractor start the WTA and with you know, some of 830 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: phenomenal women. So I feel like, you know, look, I'm 831 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: not shying my love of the WNBA and going and 832 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: watching Liberty games here in New York. I just think 833 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: women's basketball doesn't get enough publicity. It is now thanks 834 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: to Caitlin Clark and bringing some light to the pro game, 835 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: which is awesome. So I just you know, women's golf. 836 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: I've been out watching the women's golf over the last 837 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 2: couple of you know, last month. I'm obsessed with all sports, 838 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: and particularly women's sports, and I'm glad that finally it's 839 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: getting an audience that it deserves. So you know what 840 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: bottom line is, I'm happy to be a part of it. 841 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 2: I'm happy to you know, network through that and help 842 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: as many people as I can. You know, That's something 843 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: I've always loved to do. So I just think it's great. 844 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: So I'm glad I'm involved with the Deep Blue and 845 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: various different companies with Freemail, Quotient and Dblue Sports and Entertainment, 846 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 2: and so it's just been a lot of fun. And 847 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: of course now with iHeart and of course my gig 848 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: with ESPN. I'm I'm just happy to work. I just 849 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 2: love I love watching sports, I love talking about it. 850 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: I'm enthusiastic about it all and I'm so happy to 851 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 2: bring it to you guys, and happy to have Caitlin 852 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 2: back today for a little We just decided to do 853 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 2: one today, no reason, just to wrap up the French 854 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: a little bit, sort of get everyone excited about Wimbledon 855 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: before we leave. I want you quick tips. Who's going 856 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 2: to win Wimbledon Men's and women's Caitlin. 857 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: Amstaber and Carlico Zakarez. 858 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: Okay, I think Carlos and I think Rebarkina. Those are 859 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: my two. 860 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: Picks for women defending. 861 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: I've already said that. I think Naomio Saka is going 862 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: to be a real threat at the US Open and 863 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 2: Yannick Sinner is going to win the men's at the 864 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 2: US Open. That's those my predictions, because some people are 865 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: just got to put themselves out there and I do it, 866 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: and I did it at the French and I'm going 867 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 2: to do it again. And that's what I think. 868 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mark Hetevonresoz, the defender Wimbledon champ one two 869 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: years ago. But I do think we'rebaking to Carlos is 870 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: a good pick Naomio saka Sinner. Definitely. I feel like 871 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: Cinner is the right call on the woman. 872 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 2: I think it's a bookend for Sinner winsy Strain Open, 873 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 2: wins the US Open, Carlos wins the two in between, 874 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: and we have this new rivalry. Thank god for ten 875 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 2: more years at least on the men's tour and the women's. Hey, 876 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 2: it's deep, it's except on play. 877 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: It's just, Oh, I'm gonna make something. I'm gonna say 878 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: something totally random. You're ready, You're gonna hate it. 879 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: Maria Sachary at Wimbledon or Okay, we'll see. She's got 880 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: to get through the first round. That's what her issue 881 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 2: is at the Grand slams Maria. I love her, so hopefully. 882 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Good idea. Thank you fans or fans 883 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: or paid actors for requesting my presence. It's nice to 884 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: be nice wanted. But honestly, Renee and Sam have been 885 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: doing such a good job with friendship connection. It's been 886 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: fun to listen to lurking. Thanks everybody, Uh, hit us up, 887 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: especially if you want some Wimbledon. Sorry, if you want 888 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: some Olympics tickets. I know some, I know a guy, 889 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: and we'll come back soon. 890 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get back to real soon people. And as 891 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 2: I said, Andrea and I are going to try and 892 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: do a lot at Wimbledon as well. We'll be back 893 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: with this French connection, and Caitlin and I will be 894 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: here for you as well. But we appreciate you guys 895 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: always listening to us. And for now, bye bye,