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Speaker 1: affiliates around the country. Mclovin poll question for the first hour,

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Speaker 1: which NFL team feels like it's in the worst shape.

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Speaker 1: We have a new leader. Pauli's Chicago Bears the w Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys won. Yeah, But we looked at the Giant schedule.

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Speaker 1: feels like this is a make or break year for

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Speaker 1: a couple of players, and maybe they're GM Dave Gettleman.

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Speaker 1: Ring chasing seems to have a negative connotation in the

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Speaker 1: world of sports, because we want our athletes to go

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Speaker 1: after championships with everything they have. We like it when

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Speaker 1: they stay with the team that drafted them. But if

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Speaker 1: you join an established team late in your career, there

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Speaker 1: seems to be a little bit of judgment. You know,

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman already has his Super Bowl ring. He won

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Speaker 1: that with Seattle, but he's joining the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: For Sherman, it's a no brainer. The NBA has a

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Speaker 1: lot of ring chasing going on. If you look the

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Speaker 1: entire twenty twelve NBA All Star Team has joined either

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Speaker 1: the Lakers or the Nets. Now I'm exaggerating a little

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Speaker 1: bit here, but guys like Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge, Paul

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Speaker 1: millsap DeAndre Jordan, Rajon Rondo Dwight Howard. And it doesn't

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Speaker 1: always work out. We remember two thousand and three when

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Speaker 1: Carl Malone and Gary Payton joined the Lakers. That was disappointing.

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Speaker 1: But if the strategy ends up in a championship parade,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Richard Sherman's going to have a problem

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Speaker 1: with this. I don't think Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge, Paul

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Speaker 1: problem with it either. Going out a winner, that's the

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Speaker 1: ultimate strategy for any professional athlete. But you start to

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Speaker 1: look at this and James Harden sat down with The

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Speaker 1: and I was just curious that he's got free agency

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Speaker 1: after this next season. This is an important season for

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Speaker 1: James Harden to stay in Brooklyn. Here is a portion

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Speaker 1: of that interview with Malika Andrews and James Harden. I

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Speaker 1: free agent before, so I've always just been you know,

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Speaker 1: a lawyer and just sign it, you know, a contract

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Speaker 1: be very, very difficult to leave here, but or even

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Speaker 1: I think this season, I just want to focus on

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Speaker 1: He says he's never been a free agent, and I

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Speaker 1: or less likely to leave the Brooklyn Nets. The Nets

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Speaker 1: not a big deal to get somebody like James Harden.

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Speaker 1: If Brooklyn can't trade Kyrie Irving? Are they going to

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Speaker 1: Can you keep everybody who you have on that roster?

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Speaker 1: And you know, with James Harden, I don't know him.

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Speaker 1: I think we've had him on maybe once, maybe twice,

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Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Durant, Hey, you can criticize me all

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Speaker 1: Belichick had another press conference. This is how he started

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Speaker 1: it's it's phrased in an unfortunate way because if you

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Speaker 1: at how much that reporter got Bill Belichick to speak

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Speaker 1: You know, he's won all these big games. You can't

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Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want Belichick to kind of dismiss my

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Speaker 1: of him. Belichick was asked about not meeting with Tom

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Speaker 1: didn't you meet after that at some point just to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we spent twenty plus years together and

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Speaker 1: don't you think you Brady is Brady doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: because that's not what Bill does. Tom would sit down,

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Speaker 1: somebody else. That's all. Yeah, seton. But what's funny about

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Speaker 1: and everybody believes it. Okay, but they didn't meet in person,

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Speaker 1: So it's important that we talked about this. It's important

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Speaker 1: that you know, even now while I'm here today is

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Speaker 1: to to you know, talk about our great partnership with Abbott,

424
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Speaker 1: because Abbott has come out with the Freestyle Librate two,

425
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Speaker 1: which has allowed us to be able to monitor, you know,

426
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Speaker 1: Walker's diabetes so much easier. You think about the technology

427
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Speaker 1: now that's existed over the over the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: and you know you're going on and on with people

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Speaker 1: with diabetes, and now you know we're able to track

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Speaker 1: and monitor his his blood sugar numbers through an app. Now,

431
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Speaker 1: So for anybody that wants to know anything about Freestyle

432
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Speaker 1: Librate two, you can go on the Freestyle Librate two

433
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Speaker 1: dot us and you can get that app for free

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Speaker 1: from the app store. But it certainly helped us, Like

435
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Speaker 1: right now as I sit here, I can go on

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Speaker 1: my phone and I can find out what Walker's numbers

437
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: are currently. So it gives me a piece of mind,

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Speaker 1: gives my wife peace of mind, and it enables us

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Speaker 1: to kind of help him grow a little bit better

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Speaker 1: and stronger. You think he would have died if this

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Speaker 1: was misdiagnosed. Yeah, I would not be sitting in his

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Speaker 1: room right now just thinking about We wouldn't have known anything.

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Speaker 1: We would just just mistook it as a fluid and

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Speaker 1: we just said go sleep, you know, and you know,

445
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Speaker 1: pounce and fluids and his blood sugar would have been

446
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Speaker 1: going through the roof. So I just implore every parent

447
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Speaker 1: when you go to the hospital, like you have to

448
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we trust in doctors, but we at

449
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Speaker 1: the same time we have to just obviously follow the

450
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Speaker 1: science and make sure that we be advocates and fight

451
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: for our children and make sure that they test for everything,

452
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to figure out what is wrong

453
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Speaker 1: with your child. It's spelled libre l I b r

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Speaker 1: E A freestyle libre too. We're talking to Ray on

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer. Last time I had on, you

456
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Speaker 1: were in studio and I I tried to correct your

457
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Speaker 1: shot and I felt bad about it. I'm not going

458
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Speaker 1: to apologize though, Ray, but I the first I really yeah, no, no.

459
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Speaker 1: Over the course of my career, you get new coaches

460
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: to come in and they're like, well, why don't you

461
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Speaker 1: try this, And I'm like, well, I made the All

462
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Speaker 1: Star team a couple of times. It's been working for

463
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Speaker 1: me thus far, so I'm just gonna ride this thing out.

464
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Speaker 1: I just remember, because I was always taught that you

465
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Speaker 1: had the ball on your fingertips, you had the ball

466
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Speaker 1: in the palm of your hand. No, I never had

467
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Speaker 1: a ball in the phone in my hand. I remember,

468
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Speaker 1: I got I got big hands. So because this is

469
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Speaker 1: what I stressed to my guys all day long, like

470
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be spacing here. It's got to be

471
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Speaker 1: in your fingertips. And you don't want me to go

472
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Speaker 1: to the videotape rank because you gotta go to the videotape.

473
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Speaker 1: I was right there. I was right there. I was,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, a foot away from your right hand. I said, Ray,

475
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Speaker 1: it's on yours, on your palmit on your hand. No,

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Speaker 1: I never put that. I can't see with the ball

477
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Speaker 1: in palmer. I know. That's what I tell you know,

478
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Speaker 1: all the other great shooters that I come in contact with.

479
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, could you help Ben Simmon? How would

480
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Speaker 1: you help Ben Simmons? Uh? Well yeah, I definitely could

481
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: help them. Um one you people think about shooting is

482
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: some talent that that you know, some of the best

483
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Speaker 1: that's ever done. It has, But it's just really just

484
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: getting in there and you know in your mind you

485
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: have to think about the game. You have to think

486
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Speaker 1: about you know, visualizing, you know what it is that

487
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: you want to do. Uh, what you foresee in your

488
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Speaker 1: free throw. So you have to have a mindset to

489
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Speaker 1: think about these things and then kind of absorb it

490
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Speaker 1: and then do it. And so you know, having the

491
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Speaker 1: right conversations first and foremost is important for him and

492
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: anybody struggles with shooting. And then it's like we have

493
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Speaker 1: the saying like if you have a full cup when

494
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Speaker 1: you walk into a crowd and somebody tries to put

495
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Speaker 1: something in your cup, you can't receive anything more because

496
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Speaker 1: you're already filled. So he's got to come to the

497
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Speaker 1: table with an empty cup and be willing to take

498
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Speaker 1: all this information, you know, for whatever he's thought about shooting,

499
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: kind of strip away and break all it down and

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Speaker 1: kind of rebuild back up. Because you know, one thing,

501
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, how you hold the ball in your hands.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be in your fingertips. So you don't

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Speaker 1: have a push shot, and you have to shoot shots

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Speaker 1: that you know you're going to be tested on in

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Speaker 1: a game. You know, if you think about a fourth

506
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Speaker 1: quarter scenario with somebody running out at you, how is

507
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: that lift on your jump shot gonna look? What that

508
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: what is that release going to look like? And that's

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Speaker 1: what you have to practice when you're in the gym

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Speaker 1: by yourself, because you know, far too often when I

511
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Speaker 1: walk in the gym, I seat kids just up there

512
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Speaker 1: just shooting with their upper body. And then it doesn't

513
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Speaker 1: stand when you come into a game situation because now

514
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Speaker 1: you have to measure a different release point. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, with Been a lot of people are running

516
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Speaker 1: out out at him. I mean they're testing him to

517
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Speaker 1: make that shot. So that was that is where I

518
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Speaker 1: would put him in in a gym environment, a work

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Speaker 1: situation and have him shoot under the rest. But would

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Speaker 1: you mess with his form? I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 1: wrong with his form. And when you have to remember,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest shooters I've ever seen

523
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Speaker 1: in Reggie Miller. You know he doesn't have form that

524
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Speaker 1: was taught, you know, by any means. When I first

525
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Speaker 1: got into the league, I thought to myself, I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be perfect. You just have to

527
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Speaker 1: know what it is that you're working with. So with Ben,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not a form thing. It's about explaining

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Speaker 1: to him what it is that he's doing when he's

530
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Speaker 1: missing and where he wants his energy to come from,

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Speaker 1: Like he's got to float through it he's a big guy,

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Speaker 1: like when he shoots and he extends, like shooting comes

533
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: from your feet all way through your body, and then

534
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: as you release the ball at your fingertips, it's not

535
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: just a heave here, it's it's all one motion. So

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00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: that's why for some of the best shooters in the

537
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Speaker 1: world and those that make it look so easy, that's

538
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Speaker 1: why it just looks like a fit flick because you're

539
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Speaker 1: using the motion from from your toes all way through

540
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Speaker 1: your fingertips. Can you step back just a little bit

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Speaker 1: on camera and show the audience what you mean when

542
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: you're saying, because a lot of people, you know, you

543
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: just practice the jumper up here up top, and what

544
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Speaker 1: you're saying, like Trey Young and Steph Curry aren't big guys,

545
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Speaker 1: but there they utilize their legs so well. So can

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Speaker 1: you stand up and just show us what Like where

547
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Speaker 1: you're if you're watching on radio or listening on radio,

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Speaker 1: we apologize, so all right, so show me what you mean.

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Speaker 1: So you know, when you look at step step and Trade,

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Speaker 1: they do have more of a push shot. So when

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Speaker 1: you when you come down, even my shot, I come

552
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Speaker 1: from here and then I go up and my motion

553
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: pushes me and pulls me, and I shoot the ball

554
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: and release, so it's just a flick. So when you

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Speaker 1: see guys coming to transition as they run and then

556
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: they stop, you see a lot of people kill their

557
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: their energy or the motion and they just push right here.

558
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: So what I want to get guys to understand is

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00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: when they run and then they take off, don't let

560
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: that energy, that inertia die at your feet, at your

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Speaker 1: lower body and where they just start pushing with their

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Speaker 1: up body. And it's important. And I'm also wondering about

563
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Speaker 1: this ray. It feels like you're seeing shooters maybe down

564
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: a little bit lower, whereas we were taught to be

565
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: a little bit higher with the release point. These longer shots,

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Speaker 1: it feels like these guys, yeah, they're starting down at

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Speaker 1: their chests. Like, are you teaching that to your kids? Well,

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00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: one of the things is fascinating. Even with my son Walker,

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Speaker 1: this is where his shot is and his release is

570
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: so low because you have to remember, for them, the

571
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: ball is bigger, so they have to use more muscle

572
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: and more of their body to get the ball up

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00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: and they're not in their wrists with the shots. So

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: it's super important to kind of gauze. That's why you know,

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00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: I put videos and my son's up when I'm working

576
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: them out over the summer. And you know, the younger ones,

577
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't mess their jump shot because they'll get on

578
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: the trampoline because they have a hoop on their trampoline

579
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: or a small ball and they'll shoot it just like

580
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: this and perfect form, rotation, everything. But when they get

581
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: the big ball, they have to push it from here

582
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: because they don't have the strength. And then what happens

583
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: is is the kid gets older, this is where their

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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: release is because they haven't evolved and you know, reconstructive.

585
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Where their jump shot is just where they're comfortable. So

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00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: that's what I think happens with a lot of kids

587
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: and they're jump shooting, is that they shoot one way.

588
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: When they're younger, they get the ball up and they

589
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: heave it and they never change or get to their

590
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: somewhat teenage years to their adult bodies where they're shooting

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00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: the shot that is conducive to them being now strong enough.

592
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: So I tell all the kids I'm in the gym

593
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: with us to listen, you're not in middle school anymore.

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00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: You have the strength in your wrists, and what I

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00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: do is I'll put them on their knees on the court,

596
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: and I'll have them first was walking to the gym

597
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: with the ball in your fingertips underneath the basket, and

598
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: you just I let them see that this is all

599
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: you need. And then then I'll let them get on

600
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: their knees on the floor and then shoot from there.

601
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: And then just let them work on that right there,

602
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: because this is all you need right here. If you're

603
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: using your body, this is it's not a heat. You

604
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: see a lot of people using their shoulders and their

605
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: lower body to try to get the ball up there,

606
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: and that's where form goes bad. And then if you

607
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: take that bad form, that's why it's a lot of

608
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: people end up not being able to shoot. Hey, the

609
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: Lakers are taking these old guys. You know, you think,

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Speaker 1: do you think you could give Lebron, you know, ten

611
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: minutes a game? Yeah, I can give them. I can

612
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: give them twenty minutes game. The problem is that next

613
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: day I'm gonna be struggled a little bit. It's the

614
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: recovery that gets you more than anything. That's all right. No,

615
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: no back to back for you, right, yeah? No back

616
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: to back? You know it's great now because I don't

617
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: know if you know this, but I started coaching. I'm

618
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Speaker 1: the head coach now Gulliver Prep down here in Miami,

619
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: and so now I get to work with these kids

620
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: every single day and you know, get them to see

621
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Speaker 1: and understand, you know, their their best potential because you know, physically,

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: I'll get on the court with them and run up

623
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Speaker 1: and down and try and get them to, you know,

624
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: be better than they were yesterday. And you know, if

625
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: they go to college or not, if they end up

626
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: going to their pros or not, whatever it may be,

627
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: it's got to be you know, high school sports has

628
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: to be a great experience for our kids. You know,

629
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: when you're thinking about the drafts and international players around

630
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: the world, they get drafted, and we got to make

631
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: sure that we made these experiences for kids in high

632
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: school a special experience and not not ruined by parents

633
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: or administrations, but just special for them. Then when they

634
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: go there, they feel like, man, I had a great

635
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: time playing on that team. When the lunch time you

636
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Speaker 1: went into a room and you weren't the best shooter

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Speaker 1: in the room, well, it's always arguable. It's been a while,

638
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Speaker 1: but listen, I I played in a golf tournament last

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Speaker 1: week with Steph and Dell Curry. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: depending on who you're asking, you know that There's Dale

641
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite shooters, you know, all time

642
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: favorites and greats. So it is we we had this

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Speaker 1: conversation all the time with buddies of mine. We always

644
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Speaker 1: talk about the greatest. And we were actually having this

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Speaker 1: conversation about comedians last night and they were trying to

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Speaker 1: say who the best comedian of all time wasn't And

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00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: somebody said, do you like Richard pryor Eddie Murphy? And

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Speaker 1: I said, we don't get Eddie Murphy without Richard Pryor.

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Speaker 1: And so it's important that we understand that a lot

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Speaker 1: of who we try to compare, like the next generators

651
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Speaker 1: that comes along, we don't get without that that previous player,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that is something you know, all of

653
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Speaker 1: us have Jordan DNA and us. We have doctor j

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00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: and Magic DNA and us. So to try to say

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Speaker 1: we're better or comparable any one of them is like

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Speaker 1: blast to me. Well, you don't have Trey Young without

657
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, but you don't have Steph Curry without you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it just always it's a cycle. But it's almost

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Speaker 1: like we''s just so focused on trying to say who's better,

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Speaker 1: but it's just everybody has their own preposes and that,

661
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: to me is what's special and great about sports. The

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Speaker 1: partnership is with Abbott and the maker of Freestyle Liebray

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Speaker 1: to Ray, it's great to talk to you. Hope Walker

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Speaker 1: does well and good luck coach in high school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank then, good seeing you take care of that state

666
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Speaker 1: up there for me. On No, it's getting cold. You

667
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Speaker 1: don't miss it at all, you know, No, You're done,

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Speaker 1: all right, Thank you, Ray. We'll take a break. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back phone calls after this. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

671
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine

672
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us

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00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live

674
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Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Hey, I'm Doug Gotlieb. The podcast

675
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Speaker 1: is called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all

676
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: the time, but it's more about the stories about what

677
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: made these people love their sport and all the interesting

678
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: interactions along the way. We talked to coaches, we talked

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: to players. We tell you stories, you download it, you

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00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: listen to it. I think you like it. Listen to

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Speaker 1: All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or ever you get your podcast. Got to get Denzel

683
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Speaker 1: involved in this. He got game. I know that they

684
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Speaker 1: were exploring Zion Williamson by the way, Zion Williamson with

685
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Speaker 1: a broken bone in his foot, like quietly coming back

686
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: from a broken bone in his foot. We talked about

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Speaker 1: can the body withstand the rigors of what the NBA

688
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: is and is he going to be on load management

689
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Speaker 1: at some point? Getting a foot injury. I go back

690
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Speaker 1: to Bill Walton. Bill Walton one of the greatest players

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: I ever saw when health, but he had so many

692
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: injuries issues with his feet, and it cut short his career.

693
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Speaker 1: He was not able to be as nimble as he

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Speaker 1: was at UCLA in those first couple of years when

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Speaker 1: he was with the Portland Trailblazers. But you know, he

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Speaker 1: got Zion, who who's not going to get smaller, thinner?

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Speaker 1: You know, as you get older you're adding more weight.

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Speaker 1: And he's only twenty one years of age, but broken

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Speaker 1: bone in his foot, I guess he's going to be

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Speaker 1: ready for the start of this season. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about camp yeah polling, but you remember what Charles Barkley

702
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: looked like coming out of Auburn and then Charles Barkley

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00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: with the Phoenix Suns. He didn't look like the same person.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the weight numbers, but he looked thirty

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Speaker 1: pounds forty pounds last Yeah, but he was known as

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Speaker 1: the round mound of rebounded Auburn and joked about his eating.

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00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Zion is in looked like he was in great shape

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Speaker 1: at Duke. I didn't look at him and go, boy,

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Speaker 1: he looks heavy. I thought that he looked heavy when

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Speaker 1: he got into the NBA. At times he looked heavier.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know, you get you

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Speaker 1: get on a diet, you get in a routine. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you'll have a chef that'll come in and that'll help

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Speaker 1: you because a lot of times you're eating late, you're

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Speaker 1: you're eating at different hours there and you know you've

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Speaker 1: got to you've gotta be more regimented. If you're looking

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Speaker 1: to have a long shelf life in the sport, then

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: you have to do that. And hopefully Zion is able

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Speaker 1: to do that. A couple of phone calls in here

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, mclovin has five good reasons to

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Speaker 1: watch the Bengals and the Jags tonight with against the Grain. No,

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Speaker 1: I have ten, ten, not possible ten reasons why to watch,

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Speaker 1: and I'm being told mclovan has an unbelievable Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 1: trivia question for me. It will stump you. I'm even

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Speaker 1: willing to once again. I will buy you lunch if

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Speaker 1: you get it right, which you never let me buy

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Speaker 1: you lunch anyway, even when I get it right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which happened last time. So lunch offer for this trivia

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Speaker 1: qu all right, Pete and Seattle. Hey Pete, what's on

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Speaker 1: your mind today? Hi? Dan? I wanted to get on

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Speaker 1: top of what Ray Allen was saying about that and

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Speaker 1: one other thing, that you got to track diabetes early.

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Speaker 1: I have a son who contracted diabetes when he was

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Speaker 1: fifteen months old, and he was given a life expectancy

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Speaker 1: about eighteen to nineteen. He's now forty three. And that's

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Speaker 1: because you have to have a family that supports every

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Speaker 1: bit of it. And I'm happy to say that this

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Speaker 1: Saturday I will have been married to that woman for

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Speaker 1: fifty years. I'm so proud of it. Pete, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the phone call, and have fun this weekend. You're

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Speaker 1: lucky man. You know Ray saying that he if it

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Speaker 1: went misdiagnosed, his son would have died. I appreciate him

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Speaker 1: joining us. We'll get to more phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 1: I did not expect that that phone call. So that's that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, powerful stuff. And I always say to people,

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Speaker 1: you know, when somebody says, oh, I hope I have

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Speaker 1: a boy, I hope I have a girl, I said, no,

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Speaker 1: you just hope you have a healthy chop. That's it,

749
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Speaker 1: because there's nothing more helpless than being in an emergency room,

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Speaker 1: being in the hospital and your child is there and

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Speaker 1: you can do nothing about it. So I certainly understand

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00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: that feeling and what Ray went through and others now

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Speaker 1: your children, you can only protect him so much. Always

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Speaker 1: appreciate phone calls. You know, we pride ourselves and being

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00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: more than just a quote unquote sports show. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have a relationship with you, and we've certainly shared

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Speaker 1: a lot on this show. So thank you when you

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Speaker 1: do that. I appreciate that, and do not take it lightly.

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Speaker 1: All Right, two hours in the books, We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: it again next hour against the grain. Ten great reasons

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00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: why you need to watch the Bengals and the Jags.

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Speaker 1: That's what you follow up a phone call like that

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Speaker 1: with