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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome in on a Tuesday to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you on a rainy day here in

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Speaker 1: Western New York. I hope you all had a good

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Speaker 1: Easter holiday and for those of you that partake a

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Speaker 1: good Dingus Day, you know, Steve, I have to admit

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Speaker 1: that I had never heard of Dinga's Day until I

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Speaker 1: moved to Buffalo as a young twenty something. Had you

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Speaker 1: ever heard of it before moving to Buffalo? No, I have.

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Speaker 2: I I did not, I've not had not heard of it.

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Speaker 2: And now of course it's you know, everybody knows what.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, our Polish friends celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: It is here, and it's the red thing, the red

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Speaker 2: you know, Polish fer That's it's nice, good stuff. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, we're all about I'm all about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not all about I don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I do know. You myself were among the many

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Speaker 1: who watched the women's NCAA Elite eight game, which was

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Speaker 1: a rematch of the National Final from last year, which

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Speaker 1: was another game that I watched and Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese were obviously the high profile

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Speaker 1: participants in that game, even the late game after that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't stay on to watch the whole thing, but

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Speaker 1: you got pagebackers and Juju Watkins from USC and Yucas

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Speaker 1: and Funkn won that game. I won the first game.

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Speaker 2: I know. I watched the eyeould LSU game like like

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Speaker 2: most well, we did a show of hands in the office,

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Speaker 2: like everybody watched.

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Speaker 1: Everybody watched how to watch it.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet that thing pulled in a ton.

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Speaker 3: She is.

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Speaker 1: Clark is the closest thing to what Steph Curry was

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Speaker 1: in college. He was at a smaller program at Davidson, right,

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Speaker 1: But I remember the tournament run he went on when

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Speaker 1: he was in college, you know, upsetting teams like Gonzaga

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Speaker 1: and just bombing shots from like twenty eight to thirty

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Speaker 1: feet and that, and if you think about it, that

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Speaker 1: had really never been seen before at the college levels

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Speaker 1: among men's basketball. Then he goes to the NBA and

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Speaker 1: revolutionizes the game there. I mean, that's his legacy. You

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Speaker 1: can talk about it's four championships all you want. That's

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Speaker 1: his legacy. Clark's going to have a similar one, because

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Speaker 1: it's not like women haven't been hitting three pointers in

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Speaker 1: the WNBA. I mean Sabrina I Andescu A, the New

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Speaker 1: York Liberty. You got Diana Tarassi, you know, out with

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Mercury Forever. But they're not shooting from thirty

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Speaker 1: five feet. See that's what she's doing, all right. So

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Speaker 1: she was nine of twenty from three yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So I'm we were talking about this in the office today,

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Speaker 2: So I'm I I couldn't. I'm old school now, and

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Speaker 2: I just you know, I'll put my arms around and

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Speaker 2: I'm one of those guys. Right I grew up there

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Speaker 2: was no three point line, and you know, there was

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Speaker 2: a two handed chess pass and bounce, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean all the basic fundamental things, you know, pivot foot

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Speaker 2: and you know, all that stuff that.

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Speaker 1: Kind of gets set shot right exactly. I was just hand.

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Speaker 2: I was just I'm just.

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Speaker 1: After that jumping is optional.

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Speaker 2: So I'm one of those guys. So you have these

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Speaker 2: guys now back then you shoot it from outside, it's

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Speaker 2: still too it's a two point shot where I'm when

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Speaker 2: I was growing up, right, and you you know, why

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Speaker 2: would you do that jacking it up up there, you know,

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Speaker 2: And so people would always like, what you know, it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, jacking up this shot. You know, well, I'll

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Speaker 2: say this that that old school meantal that doesn't hold

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Speaker 2: any water when you're walking this, watching this Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: and like Steph Kurkr because they they gets a three

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Speaker 2: point shot, they jack it up. I don't care. I

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Speaker 2: think it's going in. Well, it's like, yeah, he can

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Speaker 2: jack it up. I don't care. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 2: even looking sideways at him.

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Speaker 1: She's ad almost fifty percent from three last.

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Speaker 2: Night, and she's jacking it up from eight feet past

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Speaker 1: The analytics will tell you that even if you're better

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Speaker 1: if you can shoot thirty eight percent from three, it

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Speaker 2: With fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then and Clark doing it at almost a

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Speaker 4: We the whole the whole thing has changed the whole thing,

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Speaker 4: because it was disgusting when I was growing up to

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Speaker 4: see somebody jacket up from that far out.

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Speaker 2: They're like, get that kid off the floor.

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Speaker 1: Okay, get them off.

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Speaker 2: And yet now it's.

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Speaker 1: It's a weapon.

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Speaker 4: If you're gone, jack it up, go give a pick

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Speaker 4: four round, pull up there, pull a ginner at the

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Speaker 4: logo go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't get enough. It's awesome. And then

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Speaker 2: and I'll say this too. You know, obviously Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: the other girls on her team, of course, but the

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Speaker 2: other girls on her team are giving her some help. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're playing defense. They're getting you know, they've got some

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Speaker 2: people that are that's not it's not her role players. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not like Pistol Pete and the LSU Tigers back

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Speaker 1: But she because a defense has to cover so much

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Speaker 1: space with her, so deep, the floor is wide open,

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Speaker 1: and she I mean she had twelve assists.

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Speaker 2: Last great passer. So the iowaha bless their hearts, you know,

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Speaker 2: congratulations to them. They beat the defending champion LSU Tigers

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Speaker 2: with their own superstar. Yeah, and Angel is gonna have

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Speaker 2: sixty seven and she plays she plays physical. It was

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Speaker 2: a great game. I mean, oh my gosh, lot of

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Speaker 2: fun to watch. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's one thing they have over the men's

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Speaker 1: game right now, it's star power. The women's college game

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Speaker 1: has like had four superstars playing last night. Yeah, Juju Watkins.

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Speaker 1: Who's who may break Caitlyn Clark's record if she stays

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Speaker 1: in school all four years because she just set the

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Speaker 1: NCAA basketball history. I think last night, then win and

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Speaker 1: acl you got Yukon to the final four, and then

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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark and Angel I mean, holy cow. I mean

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Speaker 1: the men's games onn that four guys like that. I

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Speaker 1: mean maybe it's Zach Eatie and the seven to three

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Speaker 2: I don't know any of those guys. I know Bay

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Speaker 2: Coock bay Kot from North Carolina and now I've just

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Speaker 2: fallen in love with the big dude from NC State,

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Speaker 2: Oh DJ burn Jay Burns. I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: You hear about all the NFL teams that are calling.

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Speaker 1: He's got NFL teams calling. There any guys six what

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Speaker 1: six ' ten, six ' nine. Yeah, he's like six

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Speaker 2: Nine, and he's he's a real ass.

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Speaker 1: He built like a tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a real athlete. I can move and break down,

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Speaker 2: bend his knees, get down low. He might be he

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Speaker 2: might be too smart to play football though, because he's

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Speaker 2: got all these other options. He's a he's got he's

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Speaker 2: often from the stories that are out there, he's he's

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Speaker 2: a really sharp kid. And not that you have to

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Speaker 2: be dumb to play the sport I played, but he's

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Speaker 2: not it wouldn't be easy for him to, you know,

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Speaker 2: learn how to do it if he's never done it,

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Speaker 2: to back up and pass protect. He's gonna have other options,

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Speaker 2: let alone the NBA basketball thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of wonder about what his long range

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Speaker 1: it's harder now, I think, in a wide open NBA

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Speaker 1: I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: If they can, well, here's the thing. If if they

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Speaker 2: they pull a lot of minutes, they ain't gonna keep

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Speaker 1: I mean, back in the nineties, I think it can

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Speaker 1: have been a very successful player that way.

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Speaker 2: A lot of low.

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Speaker 1: Post play, you know what I mean, a lot of banging,

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Speaker 1: you know him and Charles Oakley under the bass, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But nowadays you don't see too many of those body

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Speaker 2: You can play twenty minutes. You give an NBA team

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes on an eighty two game schedule and probably

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Speaker 2: play seventy five or so games in that for twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes's you ain't. You're not that body type anymore. You

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Speaker 2: can't eat enough, right, and the travel and the wearing,

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Speaker 2: maybe you know, give him five minutes a night. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you got a chance to stay up there right.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what his projection is for the NBA.

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Speaker 2: But those are the only two guys I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know anybody else on the man's side.

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Speaker 1: Yea, I hear you on that. Let's go around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: which is brought to you by Collida Health, the official

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Speaker 1: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, And there is some

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Speaker 1: minor Bills news that crossed yesterday. I tweeted this out

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Speaker 1: on Monday so people could see the chart. But the

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Speaker 1: league released its top twenty five performance base pay increases

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Speaker 1: for NFL players. Three Bills made the top twenty five lists.

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Speaker 1: The performance based pay program is a collectively bargained benefit

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Speaker 1: that compensates all players based on their playing time and

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Speaker 1: salary levels. So the league created this fund of supplemental

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Speaker 1: income to draw from if a player's performance on the

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Speaker 1: field far out weighs his monetary compensation, so the checks

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Speaker 1: are in the mail and Terrell Bernard is going to

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Speaker 1: be very happy because he made an additional seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy seven thousand dollars and ranked seventeenth on the list.

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Speaker 1: Ranking eighth was Osiris Torrance, as we know, he started

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Speaker 1: every game he's playing on a first year rookie salary,

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Speaker 1: got an additional eight hundred and forty seven thousand and

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Speaker 1: then third on the list in the league Spencer Brown,

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Speaker 1: who pulled down an additional nine hundred and twelve thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars in performance base pay. Good for you, guys, man,

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Speaker 1: Good for you guys. That is a heck of a plan.

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Speaker 1: Should be calling your lawyers and thanking them for that

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Speaker 1: CBA provision, right.

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Speaker 2: I was telling Brownie because back in the day when

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Speaker 2: you'd sign a contract and I had gotten a signing

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Speaker 2: bonus when I signed a contract and it was a

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Speaker 2: It's like one of these numbers and it just shows

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Speaker 1: In a player. Train Zaction News. The Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Cousins is in his middle thirties too, right, so it's

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Speaker 2: not like he's a springe.

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Speaker 1: She's like thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Well compared to that, thirty six is thirty six?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, it's not forty one, right.

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Speaker 2: Rogers is it's like you and me.

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Speaker 1: You it's like you.

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Speaker 2: Coming back from that injury yeah, trying to play. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's just that's a big ask.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, are we really plus we're feeling

442
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Speaker 1: that good about it? I mean, quarterback I.

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Speaker 2: Get it too. And we we tend to project onto

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Speaker 2: these players things we see in the media and personalities.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know Aaron Rodgers, but it

446
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Speaker 2: seems to me like you always have this feeling with

447
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Speaker 2: Aaron like there's something else. He's talking to you and

448
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Speaker 2: saying things, but you always think he's talking the message

449
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Speaker 2: is not that. It's a different message, you know, So

450
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Speaker 2: when you're you're getting yeah, he's always speaking in code.

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Speaker 2: So you get this thing where how you do Aaron,

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Speaker 2: you know, tell the team doctors and the trainers and

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Speaker 2: you're in there training with them. Are we really getting

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Speaker 2: the full story the full thing with him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You always feel like you're being led astray or

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Speaker 1: just told what he wants you to hear. A detour.

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Speaker 2: Everything is a detour, you know, it's not it may

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Speaker 2: be the truth, it doesn't feel like the truth and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like the whole truth. So I'm and

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Speaker 2: when you're in that relationship as a player and and

461
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Speaker 2: you've got you know you got you really. I always

462
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Speaker 2: felt like you got to tell him the whole truth,

463
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Speaker 2: like overshare, because you gotta you gotta know, let them know.

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Speaker 1: My mind. Oversharing is mug on television, right, don't mind

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Speaker 1: doing that. But that's so everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things why we we tend to

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Speaker 2: treat Aaron Rodgers a little differently than we treat like

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, who's a choir boy, who is yeah, who

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Speaker 2: is you know, quite as a churchman.

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Speaker 1: I just find it interesting there has been like no debate,

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Speaker 1: no discussion, no queries, no qualms, no questions we have

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Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins Achilles.

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Speaker 2: We have seen also past instances where guys come back

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Speaker 2: from Achilles, like Dan Marino came back from a popt Achilles. Yeah, uh, Kobe,

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Speaker 2: So there have been guys who have done it. Spikes

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Speaker 2: to Kio Spikes, so there's.

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Speaker 1: Not the same guy but played another six years in

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Speaker 1: the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So obviously it's a it's a procedure that has

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Speaker 2: been overcome by players, even you know, in the midst

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Speaker 2: of their careers. And Dan, I think Marino he did

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Speaker 2: it probably when he was ten years in.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it was late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So so there's that. Now, he was never going

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Speaker 2: to come out and try and sprint to the finish either,

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Speaker 2: you know, out of the pocket. Yeah, I mean he

487
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Speaker 2: could stand still and throw. You know, Dan could still

488
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Speaker 2: throw it better than I ever could now, and he's

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Speaker 2: in our sixties. But you know, so he never really

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Speaker 2: had that kind of thing going for his lower body.

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Speaker 2: But man, oh man, this it's amazing how the different

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Speaker 2: perception between Kirk, like you said, Kirk Cousins and and

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers about how they're perceived being able to come back.

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Speaker 2: Rogers got all kinds of shadows over him, I think because.

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Speaker 1: Because he put it out there, I'm going to come

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Speaker 1: back before this season is over. Forget about next season.

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Speaker 1: We're still in the playoff hunt. He'll be out there

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Speaker 1: watch me, you know. Meanwhile, Kirk Cousins is just rehabbing

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Speaker 1: and the only thing we've seen from him is video

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Speaker 1: of him taking dropbacks on a tennis court.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And plus yeah, and plus Aaron Rodgers is sitting

502
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Speaker 2: there watching Zach Wilson playing. We'll listening to him prepare

503
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Speaker 2: all week and going we have no chance of making

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and say anything I want about coming out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's true, and there's that's an example of not

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Speaker 1: getting the full right.

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Speaker 2: You don't get the full story from him. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: be back for the playoffs, which I'll be watching in

509
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Speaker 2: the stands in San Francisco with some other team. You

510
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. I mean he knew they were

511
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Speaker 2: not going to make the playoffs without that guy.

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Speaker 1: Last note, chiefs Wide receiver Rashi Rice has cooperated with

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Speaker 1: Dallas police after a vehicle registered to him was involved

514
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Speaker 1: in a high speed accident involving four other cars along

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Speaker 1: with the car that his car was racing. His attorney

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Speaker 1: released a statement that said, on behalf of Rashi Rice's

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Speaker 1: thoughts are with everyone impacted by the automobile accident on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Rashi is cooperating with local authorities and we'll take all

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Speaker 1: necessary steps to address this situation responsibly. I was shocked

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Speaker 1: over the weekend that dashboard cam video of the accident

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Speaker 1: showed up. Somebody had a dashboard cam in their car

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Speaker 1: that was just feet away from the accident which happened

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Speaker 1: right in front of them. And maybe even more miraculous

524
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Speaker 1: was the fact that people only needed medical attention and

525
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Speaker 1: six people got taken to the hospital, but nothing life threatening, thankfully, right,

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Speaker 1: Because if you watch that dashboard cam, that Lamborghini SUV

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Speaker 1: and the Corvette are easily going over one hundred miles

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Speaker 1: an hour.

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Speaker 2: And as always, they're doing it down a freeway with

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Speaker 2: other traffic, and all of a sudden, you know people

531
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Speaker 2: that you know you can't see, guys coming up behind you.

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Speaker 2: We've all been there, and and they get those two

533
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Speaker 2: vehicles that are going really fast racing and all that

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Speaker 2: get boxed in along a wall, along the wall, and

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Speaker 2: that's it, man, it's they start. Everybody starts spinning out

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Speaker 2: and banging into each other, like six cars. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden they're stuck.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just bad. It's like guys watch those

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Speaker 1: Fast and Furious movies and think, oh, yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: do that. I had to do the drift, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can go one ten, no problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, yeah, but I'm just nobody was

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Speaker 2: serious going to do.

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Speaker 1: That, do it in an open field. Go out to

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Speaker 1: New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully they don't for most of the people involved

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Speaker 2: that are get out and injured. I hope you know

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Speaker 2: this I heard it just turns into a good story

549
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Speaker 2: for them instead of you know, something that changes their

550
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Speaker 2: life for the worst, but you know it's just it's

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Speaker 2: silly and idiotic and.

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Speaker 1: They're lucky for it worse, very fortunate. Uh So that's

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Speaker 1: around the NFL and topic of discussion for you today

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Speaker 1: as we return to the airwaves here on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's NFL Draft season obviously, so that is kind of

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Speaker 1: the area we're diving into today. Is round one of

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Speaker 1: the draft about a prospect or a position for the

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Speaker 1: Bills And why let us know where you're coming down

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Speaker 1: on this. Do you have like a prospect that you're

560
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: eyeing for the Bills in round one or are you

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Speaker 1: saying I just need someone at this position and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be happy. Eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty the

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Speaker 1: number to get on board, and we have open lines

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Speaker 1: for you there or you can hit us up on

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Speaker 1: the tweets sheet at one Bill's Live. Where do you

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Speaker 1: come down on it?

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Speaker 2: I think at number twenty eight it's about it's more

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Speaker 2: of about a position because it's so hard to anticipate

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Speaker 2: what players are going to be on the board, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, but people all have their favorites I'm just wondering

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Speaker 1: if people have narrated down to the point where they're saying,

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Speaker 1: I want this guy and nobody else.

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Speaker 2: I think that's easy to do. But you know, guy's

575
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: not going to be there. You know, roma Doomsay is

576
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Speaker 2: not going to be there.

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Speaker 1: Well right within reason though.

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Speaker 2: Thing, and so I think it's always about I think

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Speaker 2: it's always about well, I don't know whether, I don't

580
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: know how to say it any but it's gonna be

581
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: about the best player on the board. I think. I

582
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: think that's where Brandon being. I think there's where they're

583
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: gonna live. They're not gonna let themselves be painted into

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Speaker 2: a corner where they've got to have a guy at

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Speaker 2: this spot. Yeah, I mean, and that means I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who they're gonna pick, because it could

587
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: be the best guy, could be a guard or oh,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, it could be a tight end.

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Speaker 1: I don't think brock Bowers is getting right right.

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Speaker 2: What if brock Bowers, you know what happens, all of

591
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: a sudden, brock Bowers is sitting there. Now, you got

592
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Speaker 2: Kinkaid knocks and brock Bowers good night. All of a

593
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: sudden we're going we're thirteen personnel. It's those three jokers,

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Speaker 2: James Cook and Steph Diggs. It's not gonna be like,

595
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Speaker 2: come on, man, well, I say, brock Bower, Hey, split

596
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Speaker 2: brock Bowers out, he's your A one, He's he's at

597
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: let a corner match up with that joker. But think

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00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: about it, it's you know, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Get what you're saying. I think it's an interesting conversation

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Speaker 1: here because I think there are some positions where you

601
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Speaker 1: could find yourself happy with two to three different prospects

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: in round one, and then there are other positions where

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: it's like, well, if we go that way, I only

604
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: want that guy right and nobody else, because if we

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Speaker 1: get somebody else at that position at twenty eight, I

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00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: don't like it because either A it's a reach, or

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00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: B he doesn't fit us, or you know something, you

608
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Speaker 1: don't like it right, So let us know ATO three

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Speaker 1: five point fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two

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Speaker 1: five point fifty is round one of the draft about

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Speaker 1: a prospect or a position group for the Bills, And

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Speaker 1: let us know why open lines for you at ATO

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty Your phone calls next here on

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on one Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you is round one of the draft,

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Speaker 1: about a prospect or a position group for the Bills,

618
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: and you can let us know why in your mind

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Speaker 1: your choice is what it is, because I think there

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00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who have a

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Speaker 1: favorite that they'd like to see be the Bills pick

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight specific prospect. But then there are others

623
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Speaker 1: that say, look, we got to get position X in

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Speaker 1: round one if we're going to maximize what we do

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Speaker 1: on offense, defense, whatever the case might be. And that's

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Speaker 1: kind of where I come down. For me, it's about

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Speaker 1: a position, namely wide receiver, but at twenty eight I'd

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Speaker 1: be happy with about two or three different guys who

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Speaker 1: could be in that range. So because because the pool

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Speaker 1: hopefully includes two or three names, I would be happy

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Speaker 1: just saying just get the receiver, and as long as

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Speaker 1: it's one of these collection of two or three guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm a happy camper.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's this guy or bust in round one.

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Speaker 1: If they don't get this guy in round one it's

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Speaker 1: a failure, you know, right, because some people get that

638
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: narrow focus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right at twenty eight, at the twenty eighth pick

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Speaker 2: of the draft. That's why I think it's it's a group,

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Speaker 2: it's a handful of guys. If if one of those

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Speaker 2: four top wide receivers fall to the Bills at twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: that's who you take. In my opinion, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think four of them are going to get there.

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Speaker 2: And then it starts to be okay, well again, now

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Speaker 2: what that's basically where I'm at. I don't think, and

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Speaker 2: I think the bottom one of that group is Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas Junior, it's Marvin Harrison is The top ten are

649
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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior, Milik Neighbors, Roma Dunza, and Brian Thomas Junior.

650
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: If any one of those four drop to twenty eight,

651
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: that's who you take. But you're not they're not ever

652
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: going to get there. In fact, three of them, maybe

653
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: four of them will be gone to the top ten

654
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: four three for sure.

655
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Speaker 1: Unless the quarterback thing goes completely whack them all and

656
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: you know you got two teams trading up. You know,

657
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: whether it's like Denver the Raiders or Minnesota at eleven, twelve,

658
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: and thirteen. If you know, they go cuckoo for cocoa

659
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: puffs and race into the top ten. And now it's

660
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and four of the first five picks. Well, then

661
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: maybe somebody trickles down a little further.

662
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: Right, and then you know, then you've got also the

663
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: the the stuff about offensive tackles, you know, and how

664
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Speaker 2: many of those guys go and and all the other

665
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: positions that everybody wants to you know, Yeah, so.

666
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: Who knows how many.

667
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: Of these position groups are going to get snatched up,

668
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: and who's gonna if. But here's the thing we always

669
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: hear the odd caller or fan will say, we need

670
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: to trade all the way up to the tenth. You're

671
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: not gonna, Brandon Be's not gonna do that. They don't

672
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: have the they don't have the draft capital, even with

673
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: eleven picks to trade all the way up there and

674
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: get one of those guys. And nine of them are

675
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: in round four or later, right, and they're not gonna

676
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: They're not gonna trade a one next year or one

677
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: the year after, or a two next year. That may

678
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: may they may go a two or whatever, but they're

679
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: only gonna get up so far doing that and that,

680
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: and then he begs the question, which of those guys

681
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: would they do that for? How many of those guys

682
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: are there on their board that they would trade up to,

683
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: say nineteen or eighteen, which is feasible, How many guys

684
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: would they do that for. And because the guys there

685
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: do it for, there's only eight of them to get

686
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: to nineteen, you know what I mean, And none of

687
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: them are gonna make it, so they're not gonna do that.

688
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: They're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight

690
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: five five fifty. Then I'm gonna get on board. Is

691
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: round one of the draft for you about a specific

692
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: prospect or a position group for the Bills, and you

693
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: can let us know why open lines for you there

694
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: at eight oh three five point fifty. We're gonna start

695
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Speaker 1: with the tweets sheeet today brought to you by Corrigan

696
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills,

697
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: and Jacobs chimes in with the following solely best available

698
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: prospect for the next five years. If it's about a position,

699
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: that's when you trade up or down to match value.

700
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: So he's kind of looking at this question a little

701
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: bit differently. He's just saying best player available. That's how

702
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: he read the question prospect meaning best player available or position,

703
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: which is another way to look at it. I hadn't

704
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: thought of it that way, right, So yeah, I guess

705
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: if you looked at it that way, you'd kind of

706
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: lean toward best player available. Knowing that Brandon Bean largely

707
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: has operated in that fashion. Say, the only time he'll

708
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: go for a position of need is if he's got

709
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: two prospects on the board and one is at the

710
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: position in need and the other is equal value. So

711
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: either player would be good value for the pick, but

712
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: you lean towards position there in that position need in that.

713
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: Case, that's right and where That's what his goal has

714
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: always been as long as he's been here in Buffalo,

715
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: and he's set it publicly and he's displayed it as

716
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: well on draft Day with his actions. They want to

717
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: get to the point where whatever player is available that

718
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: they have on their board, and you can imagine what

719
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: they do. They have their own big board. They have

720
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: all the players ranked, then second best, then third best,

721
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: all the way through, and they got this guy rated

722
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: as maybe whatever the fifteenth best player in the entire draft,

723
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: and there he is at number sixty, but he's one

724
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: of these positions he's got to take him. That's where

725
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: they're going to take him. And that's where it gets

726
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: difficult for Brownie and I and every other person in

727
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: the media because we don't get to see their big

728
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: board and we don't get to see how the draft falls,

729
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: and we're not sitting right there keeping.

730
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: Track of it. And the other thing too that we

731
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: don't have as much intel on as the Bill's personnel

732
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: department or any other department in the NFL for that matter,

733
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: is all the off the field stuff and the character background.

734
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they have painstakingly investigated that for the better

735
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: part of the last eight months on somewhere around three

736
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty guys. So they have that stuff also,

737
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: which we're not really privy to because we're not digging

738
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: into people's personal lives the way they are because they

739
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: are quite frankly multimillion dollar investments for the clubs, so

740
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: they've done that homework. We don't have access to that

741
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, so it is a little bit and

742
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: some of the puzzle pieces are missing, right for people

743
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: like that, the most important puzzle piece is opinion.

744
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: What the bills think of these guys. That's the thing.

745
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: A lot of that's based on that information.

746
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: They're right, what do they really think about them? And

747
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: where they weigh that and just one aspect of this

748
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: player outweigh this other aspect of a different player we

749
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: know nothing about. Plus you get into this, you know,

750
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: this quandary of we don't even know how they feel

751
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: about their own players. It's true. It's like, listen, we

752
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: we we got to find a way to replace player

753
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: A on our roster. We gotta find a way to

754
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: do that.

755
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: We don't even know that. We need to be better.

756
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: We need to be.

757
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: Better there, and we there's there's player players like that.

758
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: There's players like you know, there's players like that we need,

759
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: even if it's a backup player. They're thinking, ah, we

760
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: got to get better over here. We don't know anything

761
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: because they don't even they don't talk about that outside

762
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: school at all. Right, Yeah, because that you know, you

763
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: can't have guys in your on your team and your

764
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: building knowing that you're not really sold on them as

765
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: a player.

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Speaker 1: Let's hop on the phones at eight oh three oh

767
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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

768
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: open lines through you there, and we'll begin today with

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Speaker 1: Steven Orchard Park. What's up Steve?

770
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: Oh you guys doing guys?

771
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: Good? Good?

772
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: First off, I actually have a two part question, what

773
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: do you what do you think the number is of

774
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: our eleven picks? They all make the fifty three man roster.

775
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm not anticipating them to finish

776
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: with eleven. I mean, I know they got to fill

777
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: out a roster because it only has about sixty bodies

778
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: on the roster right now, and you can have an

779
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: off season limited ninety. But I think they could end

780
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: up with eight or nine. I think the the odds

781
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: are greater this year that younger players make the roster,

782
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: as opposed to the practice squad in years past, only

783
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: to see them get poached by other teams. Uh So,

784
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: I would I would probably put it at over fifty percent.

785
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: You know that all of them get on.

786
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Speaker 2: I'd put it almost at one hundred percent of them

787
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: that are going to be in the building now, they

788
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: there might be three or four month a.

789
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Practice squad, right, he's say an active, right.

790
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: But active roster you're if you pick ten of them,

791
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: you're lucky. If a handful of five, you're lucky. Think

792
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: five of them on the fifty three game day, but

793
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: all of them will be in the building. I think

794
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: they'll be hanging around more.

795
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Often than not. They are.

796
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 6: So what I would say was, would you consider giving

797
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 6: number twenty eight pick this year in a first round

798
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 6: next year and either a third or fourth in Minnesota

799
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 6: for Justin Jefferson.

800
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: As much as I'd like to have Justin Jefferson on

801
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: my roster, financially, it's not going to make sense because

802
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: Jefferson is going to get a gigantic contract. I don't

803
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: think he's been signed yet, but he's gonna get a

804
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: gigant So yeah, he's going to get a gigantic contract

805
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: that they can't stomach. Right now. You're already paying digs

806
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: over twenty four million a year at receiver. You can't

807
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: take on that kind of contract. That's the whole reason

808
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: we're banging the drum so hard, Steve for receiver in

809
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: round one. You need a future number one wide receiver

810
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: on this roster, in the pipeline, ready to be your

811
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: number one, maybe as soon as twenty twenty five, perhaps

812
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: as soon as the second half of this season, knowing

813
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: how the second half of the year has gone for

814
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs in terms of trail off in production, and

815
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: the best way for them to acquire that at an

816
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: affordable price is in the draft. To think we can

817
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: just go and get Justin Jefferson and then fit his

818
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: salary on a gigantic this landmark contract under the cap

819
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: is fools goal.

820
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: It's the last year of his contract. He's making nineteen

821
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: point seven.

822
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's gonna make thirty on the new deal.

823
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Right, and he's and per So you get him for

824
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: one deal that I see the logic of what you're saying,

825
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: all love to have that guy, right, But that's what

826
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: you bump into. It's a It becomes unfeasible economically and

827
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: silly because even if you make the trade, you get

828
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: him for one year guaranteed, because then he's gonna sit

829
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: there and go, I ain't sign it again. I'm gonna

830
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: turn free agent and then.

831
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: And he doesn't want He's going to be like, well,

832
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: where's my money.

833
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And so he'll be sitting there for all

834
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: those old reasons. He's just not going to sign a deal.

835
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: He's and you're you can franchise him, but that's a

836
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: big number. You can then h and then and then

837
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: if he's your number one, and you know, say you

838
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: move on from Steph Diggs after next year you got

839
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: both of them. You can't even fit him under the

840
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: cap this year. You'd have to do something.

841
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fiscally it just doesn't work. So Yeah, and

842
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: the thought of two ones, I can't see Brandon being

843
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: agreeing to that either. Yeah. I mean he only traded

844
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: a one and a four and I think a six

845
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: for Diggs in the prime of his career. I mean

846
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: he would be greatest. Jefferson is two ones.

847
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: That is Yeah, that's steep. I'll say this. You know

848
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: it's steep because if you're the Minnesota Vikings, you jump

849
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: at it.

850
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: But fiscally it just doesn't make sense. There would be

851
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: great to pull it off, but it doesn't make sense.

852
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vikings would say no thing. Or the Vikings

853
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: would say yes please, because you know they're kind of

854
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: in a rebuild anyway, and to get twenty million dollars

855
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: back on their cap and that'd be all right, and

856
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 2: they're gonna draft one of these you know, young quarterbacks. Yeah,

857
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: the swiftness with which Minnesota would say yes, would tell

858
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: you why Buffalo doesn't want to do it.

859
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, break time for us here, but more of your

860
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: phone calls when we get back. Nick in New York

861
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: City will lead us off when we return here on

862
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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo

863
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Is round one of the draft for you

864
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: about a prospect or a position group for the Bills

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight let us know at eight O three

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Speaker 1: five fifty got open lines for you there, and that's

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Speaker 1: where we go. Now to Nick in New York City.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Nick?

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Speaker 7: Hey, welcome back to Brownie.

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Speaker 8: Mister tasker.

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Speaker 7: We're getting you in that holiday in one of these days,

873
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Speaker 7: I'll tell you'll just keep writing the letters. I got

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Speaker 7: a question for you before I jumped into the tweet

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Speaker 7: cheet question of the day. Can your pals over there

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Speaker 7: at Callida Health cook me up a potion that'll just

877
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Speaker 7: put me to sleep until April twenty fifth. I'm going

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Speaker 7: crazy here. I can't eat, i can't sleep, I'm getting

879
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Speaker 7: in trouble with the missus, I'm missing work. I just

880
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Speaker 7: need this draft to happen. I'm going these deep Twitter

881
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Speaker 7: threads with people I've ever met their mock drafts, not

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Speaker 7: even mine. Anyway, I'm excited for the draft. And here's

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Speaker 7: what I think about it is, we got a draft

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Speaker 7: the prospect so I disagree with you, mister Tasker, respectfully.

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Speaker 7: Of course, companions to job of filling any hole that

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Speaker 7: we might have had, particularly on the defensive side. And

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Speaker 7: something I think that Bill's Mafia has got to get

888
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Speaker 7: their heads around portly head around is the fact that

889
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 7: our offensive coordin never first got so whereas I'm not

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Speaker 7: naive to think that we won't go after one of

891
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Speaker 7: these you know, there are so many, so honestly, people

892
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Speaker 7: will probably take a wide out at twenty eight. But

893
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Speaker 7: if we don't, if we are the team that's taken

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Speaker 7: a left turn at Albuquerque, as you said a couple

895
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Speaker 7: of weeks ago, Brownie, we might go, oh line, look

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Speaker 7: at it. I don't think we'll do it, but the

897
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Speaker 7: prospects are there. And I was listening to you guys

898
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Speaker 7: Tester last week when Brownie you are out. We're talking

899
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Speaker 7: about the depths of this O line class and how

900
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Speaker 7: there's a number of guys who are great tackles, but

901
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Speaker 7: they're guard sized and considered. We just lost two fifths

902
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Speaker 7: of our starting offensive line from last year, including our

903
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Speaker 7: stalwarts center. If there's a center or a noun who've

904
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Speaker 7: played guards there for a team that's going to run

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Speaker 7: first this season, I wouldn't be too surprised if we

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Speaker 7: did it. But one way or the other, I think

907
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Speaker 7: we just take the best player available, because I don't

908
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Speaker 7: think we've got too many hosts of them. All right, guys, go,

909
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Speaker 7: Bill's all right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Nick.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we lost two fifths unless you're

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Speaker 2: counting Connor mc government.

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Speaker 1: My government's just moving over.

914
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Speaker 2: Like get I get the perception, though.

915
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Speaker 1: Two different two positions will be manned by different people.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

917
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think there are probably I don't

918
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Speaker 2: know that there's twenty eight guys on the Bill's board

919
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Speaker 2: that are worthy of being taken at twenty eight. Sometimes

920
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Speaker 2: there's only like twenty or fifteen. We talked about this

921
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Speaker 2: a lot last year. Yeah, so I don't know that.

922
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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think at some point there

923
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Speaker 2: probably is a handful of prospects. Hopefully they're going to

924
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Speaker 2: be there at twenty eight. We don't know which one

925
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Speaker 2: they're like best. You're right, I think it's more about

926
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Speaker 2: players than it is about position groups, or at least

927
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Speaker 2: it will be by draft time. So I don't know.

928
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Speaker 2: If I said that before, what are mine work?

929
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Speaker 1: Well, you're you're kind of saying they'll probably be a

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Speaker 1: cluster of players pegged at that value, but they are

931
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Speaker 1: more suitable for that value.

932
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Speaker 2: It's not going to be the same player though, the

933
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Speaker 2: same position though.

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Speaker 1: No, it could be anybody under the sun in the

935
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Speaker 1: entire draft pool. But they're confident that they'll probably get

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Speaker 1: somebody of proper value to take off the board at

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. So I don't know, be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: what the approach is. Knowing to Knick's point that the

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Speaker 1: position needs aren't plentiful for Buffalo's roster, Let's go to

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Speaker 1: uh Ryan here in Buffalo. What's up? Hold on a second,

941
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Speaker 1: what's up Ryan?

942
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Speaker 2: What do you have for us?

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Speaker 9: I think that the Bills should definitely get because I

944
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Speaker 9: don't think Curtis Samuel being signed affects their first round plans. Okay,

945
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Speaker 9: I think that they I think because like last year

946
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 9: what they did with Dalton Kincaid, they moved up to

947
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Speaker 9: get him. But I definitely think that they should go

948
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Speaker 9: wide receiver in the first round, someone long term rather

949
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Speaker 9: than Curtis Samuel only having public years on his contract.

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Speaker 9: Get someone that can build up.

951
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I would be the I'm

952
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Speaker 1: on board with that. I mean, Samuel signed a three

953
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Speaker 1: year deal, so it's not like he's gonna be one

954
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Speaker 1: and done. He signed a three year contract with Buffalo.

955
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Speaker 1: I'll have the double check up. But I don't believe

956
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Speaker 1: there are any voiders in there, so I think it's

957
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Speaker 1: a hard and fast three year contract. So he's gonna

958
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Speaker 1: be here for a little bit. But yeah, I mean

959
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Speaker 1: Steve and I are riding the wide receiver train, no question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't gotten off of it. But there's some

961
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Speaker 2: other position groups that are quality in this draft. And yeah,

962
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Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills go there.

963
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Speaker 2: I'm I would anticipate, maybe even if they don't sign

964
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Speaker 2: anybody else in the next couple of weeks, which they'll

965
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Speaker 2: probably be one or two guys, I think you can

966
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Speaker 2: count on them being in a spot, at least rhetorically.

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Speaker 1: Whether they really feel it or not.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear him say we're gonna be able to

969
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Speaker 2: take the best player available, and I'm with you. Though,

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Speaker 2: if if they do trade in this draft and go

971
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Speaker 2: up or down, if they go up, it's only going

972
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Speaker 2: to be like three spots, four spots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they only went up one spot for Kincaid last year.

974
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Speaker 2: And it'll be because they believe there's another team out

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Speaker 2: there that likes the same guy they do, that they're

976
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Speaker 2: going to trade up ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: They'll take like, yeah, they thought Dallas was gonna leap

978
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Speaker 1: frog him last year.

979
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Speaker 2: They'll take Kincaid to keep Dallas from getting him.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we got to take a break here, but

981
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Speaker 1: when we come back, our number two is going to

982
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Speaker 1: begin with a guest here coming up in our number

983
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Speaker 1: two and hold on, I want to I want to

984
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Speaker 1: get his affiliation properly, Yahoo Sports. It's going to be

985
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Speaker 1: NFL analyst Nate Tice joining us had some interesting choices

986
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Speaker 1: in terms of prospects that he deemed to be a

987
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Speaker 1: good fit for the Bills in his mock draft that

988
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Speaker 1: he did with Mina Kimes of all people from ESPN.

989
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Speaker 1: So we'll check in with Nate when we return here.

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Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live presented by kilta Health, It's Buffalo

991
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Speaker 1: Bills Radio.

992
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

993
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Speaker 1: Nour number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve

994
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Speaker 1: Tasker with you. Thank you for joining us. Pleased to

995
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Speaker 1: be joined now by the co host of The Athletic

996
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Speaker 1: Football Show and also NFL analyst for Yahoo Sports. It's

997
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Nate Tice joining us here on the program. Nate, good

998
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Speaker 1: to have you with us. Thanks for the time. We're

999
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Speaker 1: all on the wide receiver train here in Buffalo, especially

1000
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: with Gabe Davis out the door in Jacksonville. I think

1001
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe that the Bills have to

1002
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: get a receiver prospect that has number one wide out potential,

1003
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Speaker 1: maybe not right away, but maybe in a year or

1004
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: so from now, when there could be a judgment day

1005
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: on Diggs contract next year. At this time, I know

1006
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: you've been busy with the mock draft yourself, even did

1007
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: one with Mina Kimes. So why don't you just lay

1008
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: on us kind of how you looked at wide receiver

1009
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: prospects and what might work for Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, receiver for me is someone that could play on

1011
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 8: the outside. I think that's first and foremost, which typically

1012
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 8: is the guy that could grow into a number one guy,

1013
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 8: A traditional X receiver like Stefan Diggs is an X

1014
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 8: receiver kind of by his archetype, but he doesn't look

1015
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 8: like that traditional build. You know that Michael Thomas would

1016
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 8: be a recent example of this type. DeAndre Hopkins would

1017
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 8: be another guy that usually those big, longer receivers. So

1018
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 8: if you're looking at this draft and it's a deep

1019
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 8: receiver draft as high end talent and different tiers, have

1020
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 8: some interesting players. A guy in the range that the

1021
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 8: Bills are taking is ad Mitchell from Texas. Might he's

1022
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 8: kind of growing a little bit because he literally jumped

1023
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 8: out of Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis during the Combine,

1024
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 8: and so I think everyone's like, oh, who's that guy

1025
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 8: that was just flying? Big, tall, long receiver. Really like

1026
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 8: his ball skills, that's how he wins, his true ball skills.

1027
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 8: He would be a red zone threat right away. I

1028
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 8: think he will take some time, and I think he

1029
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 8: is going to be more situation dependent than maybe some

1030
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 8: of these other first round receivers, but I think his

1031
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 8: upside is as high as anybody. Again, a true outside

1032
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 8: guy that I think would pair well, Josh Allen could

1033
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 8: take a top off the defense with and he's a

1034
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 8: good route rudder all ready. And again, like I said,

1035
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 8: it has ball scales, it's just more about consistency with him.

1036
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Speaker 8: So I think when he goes to a spot with

1037
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 8: a quarterback that's a true blue elite guy like Josh Allen,

1038
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 8: he'll have a little more pep in the step, you

1039
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 8: know than maybe Quinn u or throwing a couple of

1040
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 8: balls over his head other guys that are more of

1041
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 8: those taller receivers. Brian Thomas from LSU, he might be

1042
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 8: gone by this point if the Bills do not move up.

1043
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 8: He is someone that looks like an ex long receiver,

1044
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 8: but I actually think his play style is more like

1045
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 8: a smaller receiver, so almost he's like the inverse of Diggs,

1046
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 8: where Diggs is a little bit smaller, not smaller, but

1047
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 8: average size for a receiver, but plays bigger. Thomas is

1048
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 8: more of a big guy that plays smaller, and I'm

1049
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 8: meeting that as a compliment. He has really good footwork.

1050
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 8: He's a really good athlete, but he hasn't been really

1051
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 8: tapped into yet until this last year. He is super productive,

1052
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 8: but there's more to his game. You'll see him take

1053
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 8: the top off. He's got speed for days, and again

1054
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 8: he's got he's a developing route runner that arty shows flashes,

1055
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Speaker 8: but I think he's got even more to it, Like

1056
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 8: I think that it's like still work with it. He's

1057
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 8: gonna take a little bit of time, but once he

1058
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 8: gets there, he can do things that not a lot

1059
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 8: of six, three, six or four guys can do. So again,

1060
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Speaker 8: it's a different flavor of another guy that can win

1061
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Speaker 8: from the outside. So those are the two in the

1062
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Speaker 8: first that I look as his true first rounders. If

1063
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 8: you get into maybe the second round types, he's got

1064
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Speaker 8: Kean Coleman from Florida State, true big ball winner, not

1065
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 8: a lot of juice, but plays a little faster in

1066
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 8: his time speed. Or Troy Franklin from Oregon, another tall,

1067
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 8: slender receiver, very twitchy, but I mean when I say slender,

1068
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 8: he's very very skinny, but it plays a little. He

1069
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 8: plays big, but I do like him. But I look

1070
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Speaker 8: at those guys as more second round types. But there's

1071
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Speaker 8: a lot of flavors to like if you like receiver.

1072
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Speaker 8: I've kind of wanted them, maybe the Bills to go

1073
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 8: in a different direction the first round, which maybe we

1074
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 8: could talk about and maybe focus on receiver in the

1075
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Speaker 8: second round. And there's a whole batch of names there.

1076
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Speaker 8: But I could go on for days about this, I

1077
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Speaker 8: can't tell.

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00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: I would recommend to the people listening sports and read

1079
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: Nate Tice's breakdown on the top five six. These are

1080
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: the top six or seven receivers behind Marvin Harrison Junior.

1081
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: Great breakdown of what their pluses and minuses are. And

1082
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: you're right, a guy like Troy Franklin who is, as

1083
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: you said, alarmingly skinny. Yeah, so you got, you know,

1084
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: breakdowns like that, And that's one of the things Bills

1085
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: fans I think would benefit from when you do talk

1086
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: about other positions, and we believe me, we're chewing this

1087
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: up every day here when you are talking about other

1088
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 2: positions that the Bills may have a shot at maybe

1089
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: getting maybe close to an elite kind of player. And

1090
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: at twenty eight, where you've got six or eight offensive

1091
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: tackles in the mix, you got four or five quarterbacks

1092
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: are going to be taken you got maybe a couple

1093
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: of guy elite guys at different like a safety and

1094
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: a tight end that are going to be taken up

1095
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: there as well. What are you thinking outside the receiver

1096
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: position of an elite guy that may be there at

1097
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 2: some other position.

1098
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 8: Because you mentioned it a little bit. This is a

1099
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 8: top heavy and another position that's deep is offensive line,

1100
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 8: and another position I'm going to be repeating some of

1101
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 8: the same idioms I just used, But whatever flavor you want,

1102
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 8: here an offensive line, and there is high end tackle talent,

1103
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 8: the Joe Alts of the world. There are versatile guys

1104
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 8: that we're not exactly sure what their position is best,

1105
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 8: like Graham Barton from Duke, Troy font Nu from Washington,

1106
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 8: but it's like who I like you here? You might

1107
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 8: be better here, which is a good thing. And there's

1108
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 8: plenty of other guys I could talk about here, But

1109
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 8: I offensive line, especially the interior is I don't think

1110
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 8: the Bills should just act like, Okay, we have decent

1111
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 8: options this year, what's not address it this year? I

1112
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 8: think if you have somewhat of a question market offensive line,

1113
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 8: which I think the Bills do, I get why they

1114
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 8: did it, why they have David edwardsary, or why they

1115
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 8: moved Connor mc Government Center moved on from Mitch Morse.

1116
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 8: Understand it from a team building I think if you're

1117
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 8: looking at past twenty twenty four, getting a guy with

1118
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 8: true blue chip talent, a true pedigree, a true first

1119
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 8: rounder with on the interior and really shoring up that

1120
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 8: interior for the long term. I would like that. Now

1121
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 8: you've got a Scias Torrance and a center or a

1122
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 8: left guard, and there's guys in this draft that I

1123
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 8: think could fit that. Bill Graham Barton already mentioned for

1124
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 8: Duke one of my favorite players in the draft. I

1125
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 8: have him as I think my twelfth overall player, which

1126
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 8: is high, I will admit, but he just tested out

1127
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 8: the gym. He is a played left tackle at Duke,

1128
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 8: but has also played other positions, including center. There's been

1129
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 8: some questions about what his best spot is in a

1130
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 8: good way, because he can handle so much. I would

1131
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 8: give him still a shot at tackle. I don't think

1132
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 8: the Bills need that, and I think that's a good thing.

1133
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 8: But in a pinch, he could fill out there. But

1134
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 8: for me, guard, center, anything, any long term fit. He

1135
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 8: can fill that out, and I think you're just adding

1136
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 8: pedigree and stockpiling up position that's always going to be

1137
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 8: of need. And it's just one of those things where

1138
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 8: I don't want good to be the enemy of great

1139
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 8: as far as the team building process for the Bill.

1140
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 8: So that's one name that comes to mind for me

1141
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 8: is offensive line, especially the interior that's maybe some of

1142
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 8: my background kind of peeking through. And then other position

1143
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 8: I've kind of outside receiver to be less sexy but

1144
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 8: still kind of sexy. I would say is edge rusher

1145
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 8: or a defensive alignment because that's just to me. Is

1146
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 8: McDermott has always liked the deep defensive line and just

1147
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 8: rotating those guys. So they're kind of a spot where

1148
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 8: these defensive lignment are going to be going in the twenties.

1149
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 8: I don't see a lot of top ten type talent

1150
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 8: that they can get. A Jared Verse type or something

1151
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 8: like that that could make sense for them.

1152
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you like about versus game that you

1153
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: think kind of fits? Like what kind of pass rusher

1154
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: would you describe him as? Is he a a power

1155
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: guy or is he a speed off the edge guy.

1156
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: Maybe just kind of do a thumbnail sketch for our listeners.

1157
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, you kind of hit it right there. He's a

1158
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 8: power guy. He is all about effort. He tested very well.

1159
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 8: He's not the most agile player.

1160
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 10: You know.

1161
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 8: It's bendy him and him and von Miller. Yeah they

1162
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 8: didn't do not bend the same, but he is good

1163
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 8: against the run. He really is a I'd like him

1164
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 8: has a good number two pass rusher, like a very

1165
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 8: good one, but also good against the run, which is

1166
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 8: why I think McDermott, who will have saying some of

1167
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 8: his personnel stuff, I think that he will like this

1168
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 8: type of guy, gritty, but a good athlete on top

1169
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 8: of the grittiness, but also just well, just push guys back,

1170
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 8: push guys back, crout that pocket, crowd that pocket. So

1171
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 8: if you have other guys that can get after the passer,

1172
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 8: say like a guy named Ed Oliver, you know that

1173
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 8: is really complimentary for those or Rousseau or something like that.

1174
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 8: Those are very complimentary pieces. And he's a different style

1175
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 8: than those guys at Oliver is a gap shooter and

1176
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 8: Rosseau is more bendy, long and all that. So it's

1177
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 8: a nice different flavor for their defensive line. I'll use it.

1178
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 8: I'll find a different cinnonym for flavor by the end

1179
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 8: of the show, I guarantee it. But I like him

1180
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 8: for what the bills are set up for, and in

1181
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 8: this range is where I'm comfortable taking verse. I don't

1182
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 8: look at him as a top fifteen guy, but anywhere

1183
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 8: after pick fifteen, I'd like him and maybe he can

1184
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 8: follow twenty eight.

1185
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: What team has?

1186
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: And you know, we talk about the Bills all the time,

1187
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: kind of a little bit to the point of distraction

1188
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: of we don't keep track of anybody else. Is there

1189
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: a team in this free agent process thus far who

1190
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: has completely changed their prospects for their draft class? I mean,

1191
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: the Bills took a little bit of the wide receiver

1192
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: pressure off when they got Curtis Samuel and that kind

1193
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: of thing happens every year for every team. But what

1194
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: team has completely changed their fortunes in your opinion?

1195
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 8: Oh, I want to say, I don't know if this

1196
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 8: is good or bad, but the Titans went down a

1197
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 8: whole different path than I thought they were gonna go down,

1198
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 8: So I don't know. Again, I don't know if that's

1199
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 8: good or bad, but I will say it affected their

1200
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 8: draft because where they're taking in the top ten. It

1201
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 8: was a receiver, it was an offensive line. Well now

1202
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 8: I kind of kind of rote earmark offensive line there

1203
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 8: because they added Calvin Ridley. So again, not sure if

1204
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 8: that's good or bad. You obviously got to say Kirk

1205
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 8: Cousins to the Falcons is a gigantic move. And again

1206
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 8: that's just you have to note it as I think

1207
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 8: that did happen. I actually liked what the Rams did

1208
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 8: a little bit because of who they added an offensive line,

1209
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 8: Jonah Jackson, who they added at tight end, Kobe Parkinson,

1210
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 8: those guys. Their offense is one of my favorite watches

1211
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 8: last year, along with the Bills offense with both coordinators

1212
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 8: the But what the Rams were doing, I like they

1213
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 8: have really morphed into a power ish run game, much

1214
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 8: like the Bills did a little bit as well, and

1215
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 8: I liked what they added. Jonan Jackson's is a real

1216
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 8: mall or down low, has some real pedigree to him,

1217
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 8: even if he has some injury history, so there's this

1218
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 8: kind of like a in between move I like other teams.

1219
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 8: The Texans did some nice things at Daneil Hunter, which

1220
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 8: gives them some juice. I've had them kind of earmarked

1221
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 8: as a maybe drafting an edge, and now I'm not

1222
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 8: so sure. So I liked a couple of their moves

1223
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 8: as well, and adding maybe some doubles as well along

1224
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 8: with the Daniel Hunter a kind of home run move.

1225
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: Just to playoff the Curtis Samuel signing A little bit

1226
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: more here or at least get into a little bit

1227
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: more dippth We know that Brandon Bean had familiarity with

1228
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: him because he was there when that personnel department drafted

1229
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: him in twenty sixteen, and then we know Joe Brady

1230
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: had a year with him in twenty twenty, which was

1231
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: the most productive year of his career. And it was

1232
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: interesting to hear Brandon Bean after the signing say, well,

1233
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: when I was there, we had McCaffrey and we had

1234
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: Samuel drafted in the same class, and both of those

1235
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: guys were quote unquote positionless players. You could line them

1236
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: up in the backfield, you could line them up out wide.

1237
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: And I get the sense that Bean feels similarly with

1238
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: Samuel and James Cook. What do you think we could

1239
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: see knowing Joe Brady has intimate familiarity with Samuel, now

1240
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: adding him with a somewhat positionless player in James Cook.

1241
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right where my mind went. It was that

1242
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 8: it's like a Diet Cup version of CMC and Samuel.

1243
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 8: What they're going on in Carolina just more connections. There's

1244
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 8: so many connections between the Panthers and Bills. It's so funny.

1245
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 8: It's like the Packers and the raiders, just all these

1246
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 8: random ones, but get ready for choice routes. So if

1247
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 8: you ever watch the Saints, which Joe Brady under Sean Payton,

1248
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 8: Joe Brady has experience in that offense, get ready for

1249
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 8: a lot of inbreaking routes with Curtis Samuel and James

1250
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 8: Cook and using them both in the backfield and maybe

1251
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 8: motioning one out to create a matchup advantage. So that

1252
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 8: is where you'll see Joe Brady use those quote unquote

1253
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 8: position as players. It's really slot or backfield type as

1254
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 8: opposed to maybe they're on the outside as well. But

1255
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 8: getting two of them. We see the forty nine ers

1256
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 8: doing this with CMC. Weird. I wonder if that's a

1257
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 8: through line here of why you can do this. But

1258
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 8: CMC and Deebo Samuel and doing the same types of things.

1259
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 8: All right, we get both guys in the backfield, we

1260
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 8: can motion the running back out and if they're a

1261
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 8: man coverage, now there's a cornerback in the box that

1262
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 8: has to defend the run and we can just run

1263
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 8: it with Curtis. So you can do some interesting things,

1264
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 8: and Brady has some experience doing it. It's not just

1265
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 8: all theory. I actually think he prefers to do it

1266
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 8: because again, they were doing some of the stuff in

1267
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 8: New Orleans with different running backs over the years, so

1268
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 8: they have some usage of using these types of guys.

1269
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 8: Also that this kind of ties into our first discussion

1270
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 8: with the receivers. Why kind of focus on outside receivers

1271
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 8: for the prospects just looking mid long term? Don't Kincaid

1272
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 8: best best in the slot? I would say best inside?

1273
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 8: Then you got Okay, we got Curtis Samuel, best inside

1274
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 8: stuff on Diggs even does some nice things inside on

1275
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 8: the kind of this trajectory of his career. Khalil Shakir.

1276
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 8: I'm a big fan Khoshaker, by the way, but he

1277
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 8: can do both inside and outside, but he might be

1278
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 8: best working from the inside. Is more. That's why I

1279
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 8: keep focusing for their draft prospects outside outside, outside, guys

1280
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 8: that can win on the outside. Truly.

1281
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we kind of feel this similarly, in the

1282
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: event that the Bills go defensive tackle, defensive and edge

1283
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: rusher in round one, they don't pick again until sixty

1284
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: what range or tier of receiver are we looking at?

1285
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: Maybe down there in the sixty range.

1286
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, a guy I really liked, just I just think

1287
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 8: this guy's useful. If anyone has kind of focused on

1288
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 8: the top of the draft, there's Roman Dunesay from Washington.

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Speaker 8: His teammate Jail and Poke from Washington is basically a

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Speaker 8: diet Coke and Dunesay. So it's kind of that Chris

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 8: Godwin archetype. Does the dirty work, can do stuff on

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Speaker 8: the outside, could be a power slot, really really good

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 8: to good zone coverage, and can kind of just be

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 8: a quarterback's best friend. Just a chain mover type. He's

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Speaker 8: a guy that I think will go in that range

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Speaker 8: late second, early third. I have him as in my

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Speaker 8: thirties on my big board. I'm just I think his

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 8: upside is limited. I do not think he can grow

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Speaker 8: into a number one, but I think this guy can

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01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 8: be a high end number two, just like he was

1301
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 8: in college. I just see his path to the pros

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01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 8: being very clean. He's just a useful player. That's one

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01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 8: if also looking his teammate Joen McMillan might be a

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01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 8: little later mentioned Keon Coleman a little bit not sure

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 8: where his landing spot is going to be from Florida State.

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 8: He started as looking like a top twelve pick. Throughout

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 8: the year, kind of falling off big time as the

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01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 8: process has gone along then time real well. And also

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01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 8: but his GPS numbers are better than his time numbers,

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01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 8: so kind of keep that in mind watching him. He's

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 8: I have no idea what the league thinks of him.

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01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 8: I have no idea what I think of him. I've

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 8: gone from him as number twenty to now he's like

1314
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 8: in the forty for me, I have no idea where

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01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 8: he might go, so I might as well throw his

1316
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 8: name out there. The other guys there, Lad McConkey from

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 8: Georgia might be gone by this point in time. I

1318
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 8: think he's getting slotted way higher than this. But he's

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01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 8: a super useful player, plays outside in got a lot

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01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 8: of twitch to him. Those guys look to me as

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01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 8: they would fit because they can eat a lot of

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01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 8: targets and they can play on the outside, which I

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 8: think is what the the Bills should be going after

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01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 8: in this draft.

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: And you say this too as well. The Keon Coleman

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: is I'm kind of with you. He's an intriguing prospect

1327
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: because you know, he kind of he transferred from Michigan State,

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: went to Florida State, burst onto the scene with a

1329
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: big opener and then and plays. His production and play

1330
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: seemed to be like you say, little top ten. But

1331
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: when you get the guy by himself in the field,

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: he look, he doesn't look like he can play.

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 8: I'm trying to figure him out, like because I mean,

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 8: shoot the play. You guys are just on your video

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 8: right now. He'll do this thing where he's hurtling a

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 8: guy dunkin gun. Guys. You can see his basketball background

1337
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 8: all the time. Like I even wrote for Yahoo that

1338
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 8: even though he was a guard in basketball, he plays

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 8: like a power forward. And that's what he is. He's

1340
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 8: a ball winner. I would like it with Josh Allen

1341
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 8: just to see him Pepperham, Hey, throw it, go up

1342
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 8: and get it. But I'm not sure if that's the

1343
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 8: right fit for what they need because I think they

1344
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 8: need a little juice to kind of keep the tape,

1345
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 8: kind of keep that offense open. I think you want

1346
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 8: to avoid the tightness, and I think that's happened the

1347
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 8: last year or two because they can't take the top

1348
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 8: off the defense. So that's where Kem Coleman is that

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01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 8: You're right fit. Not sure even if I like kind

1350
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 8: of what the player could be. Yeah, but you're right,

1351
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 8: it's just that there's times where he's not creating any

1352
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 8: separation and it's like, yeah, the quarterback play wasn't great

1353
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 8: at Florida State. I know the name is, people know

1354
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 8: the name of Travis and everything, but it wasn't great

1355
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 8: as far an LFL terms. They had six seven Johnny

1356
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 8: Wilson and six four sixty three ky On Coleman, and

1357
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 8: there's a lot of line drive throughs and it was

1358
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 8: frustrating me. But getting maybe this kind of better situation,

1359
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 8: you kind maybe seem to flourish a little bit more.

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: Even Nay, thanks for the time. We'll catch up with

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01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: you down the line this offseason.

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 8: Thank you guys for having those a lot of fun,

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 8: all right.

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01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: That's Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports, NFL analyst also co

1365
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: host of The Athletic Football Show podcast, kind of breaking

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: some things down in Round one for Buffalo. So in

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01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: one mock he had the receiver ad Mitchell, who is

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01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: a player that we like, and then he also had

1369
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: jar Verse, the edge player from Florida State. I think

1370
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: we all kind of look as much as we're all

1371
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: on the receiver train, I think we can totally see

1372
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: the Bills drifting towards defensive line as well, because the

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01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: value might be better there at that point in round one,

1374
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: if you got four or five receivers off the boarder ready,

1375
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: the value suddenly disappears at receiver and maybe defensive you

1376
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: can get the second best defensive tackle in the draft.

1377
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: Well you're in that way.

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: That's that's right. And it comes down to exactly what

1379
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: you know. If there's seven receivers off the board at

1380
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: twenty eight or six or what pick your number. If

1381
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: there's all those receivers off the board already and you

1382
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: couldn't trade up, you got to quote different direction what

1383
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna be. But by and this two, when you

1384
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: do have six or seven guys going at receiver and

1385
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: six or seven offensive tackles and five quarterbacks, you get

1386
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: down there, you're gonna get the best player at some

1387
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: other position if you want them, and you got to

1388
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: be ready to do that. Whether it's a finger quotes

1389
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: sexek pick or not. You know, whether we recognize the

1390
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: guy's name or not, you're gonna get a really good dude.

1391
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: We are gonna take a break here, but when we

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: come back, more of your phone calls at eight oh

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Speaker 1: three zero, five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty

1394
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: two five fifty. As we are asking you today, is

1395
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: round one of the draft for you about a specific

1396
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: prospect or a position group for the Bills. You let

1397
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: us know why at ATO three oh five fifty open

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: lines for you. There, Steve and I have time. We

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01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: may even do a little NFL true false when we

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01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by a lot

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: of health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back with you,

1402
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. One Bill's Live is the show

1403
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday. Is round one of the draft

1404
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: for you about a prospect or a position group for

1405
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: the Bills. You let us know at A three five

1406
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: fifty got open lines for you. But we lead off

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: here with David in Brockport. What do you got for

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:44,520
Speaker 1: his David.

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 3: Well, I was watching the mainstream media CESPN today and

1410
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: they seem to think that the Jets and New York

1411
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 3: Jets have sort of like blown everybody out of the

1412
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: water in terms of the free agency. So I want

1413
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: to know if Brandon Bean of the Bills have been

1414
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: out foxed by the Jets, and do I have to

1415
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: worry about the Jets taking the AFC East Crown from.

1416
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: The Bills in a word.

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01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: No, Well, Brownie went on, yes, you do, because the

1418
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: Jets are gonna play if Aaron Rodgers can play in

1419
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: the Jets. Yes, they've got good players, and I think

1420
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: Robert Solo is a good coach. If the Jets put

1421
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: it together, stay healthy right out of the gate and

1422
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: they Yes, the Jets seem to do a lot of

1423
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: things right. But Brownie went into this rant, and they

1424
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: seem to have traded a third round draft pick next year,

1425
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: maybe that maybe twenty second act Okay, they may have

1426
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: may turn into a second rounder for thirty Hassan Reddick. Basically, so, uh,

1427
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: Bryce Huff gone, Hassan Reddick in Bryce Huff, twenty six

1428
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: year old, good player to Philly, from Philly to Buffalo

1429
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: or to the Jets, is Hassan Reddick. Now, those two

1430
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: players you can say are pretty equally, except that Huff

1431
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 2: is twenty six. Hassan Reddicks thirty. Huff just signed a

1432
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: fifty one million dollar three year deal at twenty six,

1433
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: right in the prime of his career. Huff is on

1434
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: the last year of a fourteen million dollar deal. So

1435
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: Brownie outlined why that seems like a really bad idea.

1436
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: For the Jets, well, for the long term, for the

1437
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: long term year, for this year, it worked. It might

1438
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: work better, but we'll see. Yes, the Jets have done

1439
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: a lot of good things at the player acquisition part

1440
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: of the game in the last three years, but they

1441
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: pushed it all to the center of the table last

1442
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 2: year with Aaron Rodgers and it didn't do them much good,

1443
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: particularly the fact that they forgot about the offensive line

1444
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: last year. So even if Aaron Rodgers hadn't popped his

1445
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: achilles four plays into the season, he wouldn't have survived

1446
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 2: the first month of the season anyway.

1447
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: And they decided to replace old players with more old players.

1448
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: They acquired Morgan Moses, the offensive tackle from Baltimore and

1449
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick in exchange for a fourth round pick,

1450
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: and then they signed Tyron Smith in free agency. He's

1451
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: thirty three, soon to be thirty four. They signed Mike

1452
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: Williams away from the Chargers on a one year, fifteen

1453
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. But he's coming off ACL surgery. What's

1454
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: he gonna look like, we don't know. And they signed,

1455
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, John Simpson, the guard from the Ravens. So

1456
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: they have tried to fortify their offensive line but they've

1457
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: done it with older veteran players, which is what they

1458
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: did the last time with Dwayne Brown at left tackle

1459
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: who couldn't stay on the field. It's here's to me,

1460
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: it's it's all loaded up for this year, and if

1461
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, guys like Robert Salah and Joe Douglas

1462
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: don't care because they're not gonna be there.

1463
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: The problem is this with the Jets. It's exactly what

1464
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: Brownie said they were doing. In my opinion, in Brownie's too,

1465
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: We've been talking about them for two and a half

1466
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: years of going man, they finally got it together to

1467
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: just draft. Are finally drafting smart, They're drafting with a

1468
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: lot of forethought. Then they got Aaron Rodgers pulled a

1469
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: blockbuster deal that they have done a ton of really

1470
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: good things this year in the offseason, all of a sudden,

1471
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: it looks like Joe Douglas and Robert solid No, if

1472
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,839
Speaker 2: it's not this year, they're done, and they're making different

1473
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: decisions than they have in the last three or four years.

1474
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: They look like their short term, quick fixed decisions. Don't

1475
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: care what happens in twenty twenty five, because if we

1476
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: don't do it this year, we're not going to be

1477
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: here anyway, and it changed their philosophy and their path,

1478
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: and I think to the worst for the worst. I think,

1479
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: as we have seen happen before in New York, gms

1480
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: and coaches start making different decisions based on the right here,

1481
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: right now, rather than building it for the long haul

1482
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: and to be sustainable and to be able to get

1483
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: there and be competitive. And I think that comes from

1484
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: probably from pressure from the ownership group and fans and

1485
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: media and all that stuff that goes on in New York.

1486
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: I think it's a huge mistake. So, yes, they haven't

1487
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: fallen off the rails in New York, but I think

1488
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: their thought about anything that happens after twenty twenty four

1489
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: is irrelevant because they are not thinking about it.

1490
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they could be a much more

1491
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: competitive team if they stay healthy, but I think that's

1492
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: a question mark because of all the veteran talent they've acquired.

1493
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: It's harder now. It's hard to start out extra game.

1494
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: You got all these Thursday night games. The Jets are

1495
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: going to be in primetime. Let's not kid ourselves. As

1496
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: long as Aaron Rodgers on the roster, especially with his

1497
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: comeback year, you know they're gonna have primetime games. But

1498
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: guys over thirty, especially up on the line, it's hard

1499
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: to get through a seventeen game season healthy. It's hard.

1500
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: So we'll see if they can do it. Maybe they

1501
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: do win nine ten games in they're a threat, but

1502
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: I'll wait and see on that. I'm not banking on it.

1503
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1504
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to Justin into Pew next. What's up Justin?

1505
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: Hey?

1506
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 10: Guys, how you don't enjoy the show?

1507
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: Thanks?

1508
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 10: My thing with the draft is what I would love

1509
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 10: for them to do, but I know Being won't do it.

1510
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 10: Is it be done if you have a team of

1511
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 10: Julio Jones type tray where we trade up and grab

1512
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 10: one of those receivers, because man him and Josh Allen

1513
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 10: with a Rosie contract number one wide receiver for five

1514
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 10: years is really tuning. But I know Being gets paid

1515
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 10: a lot more money than I do. This is probably

1516
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 10: smart enough not to do that. So my overall the

1517
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 10: thought at pick twenty eight is if Brian Thomas Junior

1518
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 10: is off the board, which I assume he's going to

1519
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 10: be for the wide receiver, I'd like to see any

1520
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 10: of these defensive linemen if they slip to twenty eight,

1521
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 10: the Bills to take them, whether that's Brian Time or

1522
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 10: Jared Burst, Dalas Turner, Byron Murphy, why a lot too

1523
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 10: A lot to however your seas name, or even in

1524
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 10: Johnny Newton. I'm not sure how well he plays as

1525
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 10: a three techniques behind Oliver or how often you to

1526
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 10: the field. But if they can't get any of those guys,

1527
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 10: and I think if one of the juice slip, I

1528
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 10: would jump to the podium and grab on them. I

1529
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 10: would just go best wider receiver available at twenty eight,

1530
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 10: whoever they like the best. I don't really want them

1531
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 10: going any other position, whether it's offensive tackle in Tarry,

1532
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 10: offensive line, safety, just either D line, and if one

1533
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 10: of those guys calls, I'd love to get them. If not,

1534
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 10: just take the best wide receiver available. The one defensive

1535
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 10: guy I do not want is Jack Robinson. Yeah, he

1536
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 10: gives me Aaron mabn vibe just underway from Penn State

1537
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 10: defensive end. But maybe that's not fair to compare him,

1538
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 10: but I think the Bills would be cursed that they

1539
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 10: took him.

1540
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's fair to compare him,

1541
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: but I'm with you, Justin and thanks for the call.

1542
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: As far as some of those guys that you mentioned,

1543
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't think someone like Byron Murphy gets down there.

1544
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gone before we get to pick twenty

1545
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I think he's a top twenty selection a

1546
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: lot too. With the medical you know, having had neck

1547
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: surgery in his history could scare some teams off. I

1548
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: think he's a remote possibility that he slides. That's an

1549
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: elite pass rusher. And then it depends on what the

1550
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: Bills think about his medical Are they just as scared

1551
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: about his medical history because he retired from football before

1552
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: he came back and played at UCLA and then put

1553
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: up two years of tremendous production, so he could be there.

1554
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: I think Johnny Newton could be there, the defensive tackle

1555
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: from Illinois. I think he's got a chance to be there,

1556
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: which is what I was the point I was making earlier, Steve.

1557
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: If you're already seven deep at wide receiver off the

1558
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: board and you can get Johnny Newton, who's arguably the second,

1559
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: maybe the third best defensive tackle in the draft, that's

1560
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: probably the way you go.

1561
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 2: That may be where we're going to be when we

1562
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: get there, and just say Listen, here's what's going to be.

1563
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: If it's it's a D lineman, defensive end, or wide receiver,

1564
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: and there's a run on any of those, we're gonna

1565
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: take the best player on our board, regardless of those three.

1566
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: It's gotta be one of those three positions. We're gonna

1567
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: take the best one of those three. And that may

1568
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 2: be where we're at if you're Brandon Bean by the

1569
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: time the draft gets here. Listen, we got it down.

1570
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: If if it's you know, then you've got enough guys

1571
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: in three different positions, albeit you know one if you

1572
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: count all the D line as one position, but you've

1573
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: got enough guys in that pool that somebody's gonna be

1574
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: there at twenty eight. If you do get stuck and

1575
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 2: painted into a corner, you can't trade up, can't trade down,

1576
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: or don't want to do either. You're gonna take best

1577
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 2: defensive linemen, tackle or end available, or best wide receiver available,

1578
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: whichever one of those you like best, and that may

1579
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: be where we end up getting with all of this.

1580
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: It's a good call by Justin kind of that's where

1581
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 2: that's where he was getting to, like, I'm not going

1582
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm not taking a guard I'm not taking a middle linebacker,

1583
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 2: receiver a D line, right, I'm taking one of the

1584
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: who and and you'll have you know, we'll have a

1585
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: handful of guys that'll get they're gonna be there. Yeah

1586
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: at twenty eight.

1587
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, let's get back to the phones. We go

1588
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: to Ken in Albion. What do you got for us?

1589
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 2: Ken?

1590
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, nice talking to you.

1591
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

1592
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 11: Actually I have nothing for you, because you guys literally

1593
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 11: just said what I wanted to say. I just think,

1594
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 11: you know, obviously the obvious position is wide receiver a draft,

1595
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 11: but I feel like unless we move up, and unless

1596
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 11: we make some crazy deal to move up high enough

1597
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 11: to get one of these top tier guys, I just

1598
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 11: think the same thing, like, we go defensive line at

1599
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 11: that point, and why not take a number two, number

1600
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 11: three guy like Steve was just talking about that. You know,

1601
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 11: it is a better chance of really hitting the mark.

1602
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 11: And I have no problem with that, and I think

1603
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 11: that's the way they should go. I get the wide

1604
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 11: receiver need and I want the wide receiver. But being

1605
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 11: where we are, it's gonna be tough. We have to

1606
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 11: see how things play out. But I have faith and

1607
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 11: Brandon and Sean and I really do, and I think

1608
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 11: they'll they'll figure that out, and I think that's the

1609
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 11: way they need to go. No linebacker, maybe safety later on.

1610
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 11: I mean, but that's it.

1611
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you. And it's always going to be

1612
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 2: the question, and every fan's got a different opinion. Could

1613
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: you think about this? Would you take some a player

1614
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: like say, for instance, you get a chance at a

1615
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: guard and in the long run, the guy turns out

1616
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: to be even a Hall of Famer, but he's a

1617
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: guard's not right? Or do you get one of these

1618
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: guys take a shot at an unknown guy like that

1619
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: seems to be maybe pretty good? Like what would take

1620
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: your pick at whatever prospect you want? You you got

1621
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: a guy that just got two guards that played at

1622
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: a high level this last year. One I'm gonna move

1623
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: to center. I'll stand that, we think, But now you've

1624
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: got a chance to grab one that is elite.

1625
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean there you're talking Jackson Powers Johnson,

1626
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: the Oregon kid who's one of the best centers in

1627
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 1: the draft. And then the Barton kid from Duke who

1628
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: has played tackle, guard and center, projects as an interior

1629
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: alignment in the league because his arms are a little shorter, yeah,

1630
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are possibilities, but I think they

1631
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: only are if the board's wiped clean of any value

1632
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: on Buffalo's board at defensive line and wide receiver, then

1633
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: I think it becomes an option. But short of that,

1634
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: I think it's d line or wide receiver at twenty

1635
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: eight because of what you have to replace. You have

1636
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: to replace numbers on the defensive line. Even though the

1637
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: Bills have been busy, I mean, let's not forget this,

1638
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: they've been busy in free agency plugging holes on the

1639
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: defensive line. They got epinsn Daikwe Jones back and then

1640
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: they signed to Shaun Williams last week, Austin Johnson to

1641
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, you know, and then you've got some depth

1642
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: in the pipeline at defensive end. Rousseau is still on

1643
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: the roster and you've got Kingsley Jonathan. But you know,

1644
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to. You gotta get some

1645
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: number more numbers there on the defensive front. And so

1646
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: by that virtue, you have to add there and you

1647
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: need players that can be in the rotation week one,

1648
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 1: like get in there, play meaningful snaps week one. You

1649
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: you got to get those guys early if you need

1650
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: them to help you early. And that's the case. And

1651
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: then we've already made the case number of times about

1652
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: receiver and we have a future one there.

1653
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: We are so far into this draft thing that we're

1654
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: talking brand and I are going to the hockey game tonight,

1655
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: so come say hi. But we we've got another couple

1656
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: of weeks of chewing up just this exact that we

1657
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: we We went around around about our twi he poll

1658
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: today about what it was gonna be and is it

1659
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: going to be a prospect or is it going to

1660
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 2: be a position, and and it turns out it's both,

1661
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, as good Bills fans would say, it's like, okay,

1662
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: it's two positions, but take the best guy at either one.

1663
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: And I'm okay with that. And it seems like that's

1664
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: where we're at today. We'll do another, probably take of

1665
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: this next a week from today if something's changed, and

1666
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: on on on draft Day, we're gonna see, Okay, who's

1667
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: it gonna be, Brownie And I usually wait till Draft

1668
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 2: day before we kind of pick who's going to be there,

1669
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: and on day two sometimes we get the guy, we get.

1670
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: The yeah, best on the board, what's left. It's a

1671
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: little harder when you're picking sixtieth.

1672
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: But but we did get James Cook, got James Cook,

1673
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 2: and we got Rousseau too.

1674
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: You got Rousseau. I'm not taking credit on that one.

1675
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: That was all you on the day of.

1676
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 2: If we're on the air and and they're picking, we're uh,

1677
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: we we're gonna make a shot, take a shot to

1678
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: who we think we're going again, we never and believe me,

1679
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: people think why you're in the building. They're probably whispering.

1680
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: They don't get Jack. They don't tell us anything.

1681
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: It is Fort Knox.

1682
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: We are, yes, they they and rightfully so they don't

1683
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: trust us. We're not trustworthy. But yes, we don't know anything.

1684
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: So we take a shot at it. So you can

1685
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: do that for the next couple of weeks. This is

1686
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: the world we're going to be living in. Yeah, so

1687
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 2: stick with us.

1688
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: Don on the tweets sheet very quickly, which I think

1689
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: is a good note to go into the break with here.

1690
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: When asked is round one of the draft about a

1691
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: prospect or a position for the Bills, he says both

1692
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: as it should be. First round picks should start or

1693
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: contribute from day one. Now that hasn't always been the

1694
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: case with the Bills in the Bean McDermott era, but

1695
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I will say, dollars to donuts, all these first round

1696
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: picks have contributed in a big way to this football team,

1697
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: every last one of them. The only exception right now

1698
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: is Kye Elam. But even that kid, with very limited

1699
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: playing time, has two interceptions and the playoffs two and

1700
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: he's played in three playoff games and part time at that,

1701
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: So give him time and if he gets on the

1702
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: field on a full time basis, I think he'll he'll

1703
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: keep that record perfect.

1704
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 2: Brownie and I think Kyrie Elam is the one guy

1705
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: who could transform this year. There's been coaching changes on

1706
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 2: the staff and there's a different set of there's a

1707
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 2: bunch of different evaluators and different different defensive coordinator, different atmosphere,

1708
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: different defensive coordinator. All of that stuff is going to

1709
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: be changed for him, and I think that for the better.

1710
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: I think I think that fresh start, it's going to

1711
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: be a fresh start for him, is I think is

1712
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: what Brownie and I are thinking. And we may see

1713
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 2: some of him this year.

1714
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: We got to take a break here, But some final

1715
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Tweetsee when we return here on one

1716
01:27:41,120 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, Stay with us all right back here One

1717
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Lives and final thoughts on the tweet sheet, And

1718
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 1: this one comes from Jack, who says wide receiver or broke.

1719
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: It's an Armors race. We need to keep up with

1720
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: k C since I doubt Thomas will be there and

1721
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: without a third heart to move up. Give me McConkey,

1722
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: lagette Worthy or Mitchell, though some things have heard about

1723
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: him taking place off scares me. Stay away from Chop.

1724
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 1: Robinson at equals Maybon two point zero. Andrews says, well,

1725
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: knowing how Brandon Bean operates, you get the best player

1726
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: that's on the board. If the player you want is

1727
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: not there, you make a deal to move back in

1728
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: that round. You're back in the draft and get more

1729
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: draft capital. Doxy says, not football related, but you talked

1730
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: about Starburst jelly Bean's last week. I am not a

1731
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 1: jellyband jelly Bean fan, but I love Starburst, so I

1732
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: searched out for these since you were raving about them.

1733
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: They're really good. These are so addicting it's not funny.

1734
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: I went online and bought three bags of Original and

1735
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: three bags of Red Robin. They are addicting, they're awesome,

1736
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: though you got it. Have you tried them? No, you

1737
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: gotta try them. They're unbelievable, Daryl says, for me, Round

1738
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: one is about a position that can provide immediate impact,

1739
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: maybe in a way slightly different than what you already

1740
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: have on your roster. That is, if you have a

1741
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: solid in the box safety, you might pick more of

1742
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: a cover guy to pair with him. Right, that could happen,

1743
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: although Mike Edwards is probably playing free and Taylor Rap's

1744
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: playing strong. This is how Brandon Bean operates. Fill all

1745
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: the holes with free agents as best you can, you know,

1746
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: and then that way you can pick best on the point.

1747
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: Congratulations of Jeff Skinner one thousand games. Tonight, Brownie and

1748
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 2: I are gonna be there. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1749
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 1: Let's get a win.

1750
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna listen. We're gonna be back tomorrow. We're gonna

1751
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: talk more about this draft. So I don't know if

1752
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 2: you heard about it. Bill's gonna draft somebody in the twenty.

1753
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: We think right we think at the twenty. Could be

1754
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: a move up, could be a move down, could be

1755
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: just staying right there without much draft capital. Either way,

1756
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about it, and we'll be talking about

1757
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: it tomorrow with Greg Cosell. You want to find out

1758
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 1: about d Lineman, we're covering those with him and what

1759
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: he sees on film. We'll see it one