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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: This week, we have a hot new bombshell entering Casual Chaos,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Georgia. Well, welcome to Casual Kres.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: So you're in New York. What have you been up to?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing New York?

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Speaker 2: I just like to do you know what? I was

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Speaker 2: in La for a bit. I love New York. There's

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Speaker 2: something about this city of the energy. I love walking

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Speaker 2: through it. I just don't want to sound like I

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Speaker 2: got but you know, it inspires me a bit, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. But also just because I also

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Speaker 2: know there's a bunch of people to connect with on

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Speaker 2: this side of the country too. It's not just their age,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I wanted to come

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Speaker 2: over here, spend a few days here and just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, New York is the place to be

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Speaker 1: when you're looking to just explore and meet new people. Network.

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Speaker 1: It's a great place to be. Where are you living now.

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Speaker 2: I'm living out of two suitcases at the moment. It's

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Speaker 2: actually getting to the point now where it's like, you see,

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Speaker 2: my situation has been a little bit from to the

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Speaker 2: other Islanders. Because I'm not American, my visa situation is

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Speaker 2: a little bit different. So it's not like i could

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Speaker 2: just rent out, like go to a landlord okay, like

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Speaker 2: six months. You know, most of them want to know

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Speaker 2: that you're going to be there for a little while.

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Speaker 2: So I've been bouncing around Airbnb to Airbnb. Sometimes I've

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Speaker 2: got maybe an appearance in some random town in a

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Speaker 2: different state, so I'll go there. But essentially the family

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Speaker 2: home is still in Birmingham, England, but it is looking

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Speaker 2: like the aim is to move to the States. But

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Speaker 2: just right now it's this weird, little awkward stage of

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Speaker 2: like I can't move just quite yet. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to do what I can in that time.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit it is frustrating, I will be

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Speaker 2: honest at times, because it's not as easy to just

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Speaker 2: are happening now.

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Speaker 1: But of course, because the work is here.

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Speaker 2: Work, this is the thing that I didn't quite think

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Speaker 2: of really in a way like a kaf the Love Island, USA.

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Speaker 2: So now all the opportunities are here. Like when I

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Speaker 2: get it's nice to go back and see the family.

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Speaker 2: But then I'm sitting there and I'm thinking that everything's

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Speaker 2: going on now in the States now like that, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's where the journey is now. I

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Speaker 2: the States, So I've probably going to relocate. I've been

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Speaker 2: told to do a year in LA, right and then

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Speaker 2: kind of because an actor and stuff like that. Yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 2: I know you can do it in New York too,

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Speaker 2: but I've been advised one year in LA. See how

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Speaker 1: See how you got to find your people? Do you know?

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Speaker 1: New York. I think you get more of that raw

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Speaker 1: energy love it though, and it's you know, people are

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Speaker 1: be your friend a little bit for opportunity. So that's

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Speaker 1: where you just have to, you know, stay true to

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Speaker 1: yourself and figure out your journey. But talking about Charlie's

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Speaker 1: journey to just catch up some listeners, Charlie was a

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Speaker 1: fan favor on season seven of Love Island, Usa. He

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Speaker 1: really hit it off with Hannah, but he got voted

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Speaker 1: off while they were exploring their connection. Not long after,

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Speaker 1: Hannah formed her connection with Pepe, but then also got

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Speaker 1: voted off by her fellow Islanders. Then not long after

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Speaker 1: Pepe moved on with Iris, and then after they left

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Speaker 1: the villa, Pepe cheated on Iris and is now with TJ.

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Speaker 1: So Charlie stayed quiet a lot during that time until now.

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Speaker 1: So how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good man, I'm good. I feel like the drama

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Speaker 2: still continues, isn't it. The drama hasn't stopped her this season.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's like, you guys really were a hot

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Speaker 1: commodity and I watched your season. I really was not

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Speaker 1: But my friends were obsessed with it. We watched it

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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy, you know, that happened so fast

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Speaker 2: and went to hear people say that like at the time,

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Speaker 2: so imagine you get dumb I got dumped and I

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Speaker 2: But they were assuring me, like, just you know when

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Speaker 2: which is good, you know what I mean. Okay, ended

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that was the crazy thing because you

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Speaker 1: and then but when we were looking, when viewers were

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Speaker 2: Now, you know at the time, it was you know,

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Speaker 2: of course, like you know, we were we were genuinely

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Speaker 1: But let's start before Love Island. What were you up

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So in general from the start of

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Speaker 2: So then the careers advisor at school advised that I

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Speaker 2: got an agent, and then it turned out I was like, okay, mane, okay,

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Speaker 2: Then this is what we're doing. I was also always

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Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you that did you

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Speaker 2: So I applied. Everyone else seemed to get the message.

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Speaker 2: I just applied, and it all stemmed back from last year.

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Speaker 2: I'm mat sure of an American girl on Hinge right,

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Speaker 2: So shout out Hinge, because you changed my life serious

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Speaker 2: to get there, to get that endorsement deal game. Seriously,

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Speaker 2: it was bizarre. It's one of those things where something

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Speaker 2: I doing. I remember I was selling. I got a

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Speaker 2: trying to sell Wi Fi commission. Only it's England. It's

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Speaker 2: like November, it's raining. I'm miserable. I'm knocking on people's doors.

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Speaker 2: They're slamming the door in my face. I just thinking, dude,

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Speaker 2: know what, now, I know I want I want to

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Speaker 2: go for right now. I'm ready for it because I've

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Speaker 2: What's the way that I can just kind of I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you haven't done a podcast

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Speaker 2: I just think it was you know, like, it's just

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you have a great story. So I

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Speaker 1: No, really, So let's talk about Hannah. You guys were

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00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 1: clearly into each other very early on. Looking back, do you,

432
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: I know you were very hurt that you left the

433
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: villa and she was too? Looking back, do you think

434
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: if you would have stayed in the villa that you

435
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: and Hannah were have maybe formed a deeper connection.

436
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: Well, let's think about this for a sec because it

437
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: could have been brutal. Right, So how do I have

438
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 2: stayed that night? I would have had to sleep on

439
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: the single bed and they would have had to sleep

440
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 2: in the bed together. Now, let's imagine for a sec

441
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 2: that though in the following nights, the same thing that

442
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: they did together in bed was happening while I was

443
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: still in that room. Do you know what I mean?

444
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 2: It could have It could have I could have maybe

445
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: had a giant crash, you know, Yeah, do you know

446
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: what I mean?

447
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: So everything happens for a reason.

448
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: You know, in a way, maybe not in a way.

449
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe I would have maybe the Castle girls

450
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: would have came in, maybe something would have happened there.

451
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: It does happen in that way. But you know, the

452
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: alternative could have also been kind of it could have

453
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: been whacked too, you know, because now all of a sudden,

454
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: you've got to live in the same environment and they

455
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 2: actually visit, like because they're now a couple by Levin

456
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 2: and law, they get to sleep in the bed together,

457
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: they are going on dates together, Yeah, which would have

458
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: been even refer.

459
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, so then when you left the villa seeing

460
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: them together, how did that feel?

461
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: You know? The first day or two I was like mate,

462
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: I like, I was.

463
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: Like, what the well because you were also I feel like,

464
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: trying to be very honest with her and say, tell

465
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: me how you're feeling, like let's see if like we're

466
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: going to go forward if you really are into me,

467
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: because if you're into him, it's fine, but let's not

468
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: play this on a double team.

469
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, communication, man, let's just communicate. Let me know

470
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: where you're at. And you know, yeah, okay, like those

471
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: first few days, it's sot you completely voted out the

472
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: picture and in the end she did come back, and

473
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: that conversation was her saying, you know, I want to

474
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: continue with you, and you know, it would have been interesting.

475
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe it wouldn't have gone down like that.

476
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: Maybe she genuinely would have, but it's one of those

477
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: where you know, I will be honest with you the

478
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 2: way I am. After a few days and like with

479
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: what went that kind of you know, the reality is

480
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: everyone was messaging like saying, maybe you know, try and

481
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: get out. No, like, guys, it's done like that after me,

482
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: you know, like no, as suit as quick as it

483
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: all was intense, I got back home.

484
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: So did you guys reconnect after a love? No?

485
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no reconnect. Like we spoke, like had the

486
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: odd chat here and there, but nothing on the on

487
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: that sort of way, you know, and we don't even like,

488
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: you know.

489
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: Anything, that chapter closed.

490
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that and I think everyone thought, for some reason,

491
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: everyone thought that I was still like open to it

492
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: after the reunion or something. I don't know if the

493
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: way it looks, but no, guys, that's not something I'm

494
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, for me personally, I just wouldn't feel what

495
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: I was supposed to do it like a hard launch

496
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: post with someone after what went down, and like you

497
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. For me, it just made me like,

498
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: you know.

499
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: You were kind of just turned off by that at

500
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: that point, but yeah, it was done. Yeah, I mean

501
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: I get that. Then Pepe later on went with Iris,

502
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: soon to find out that then he cheated on her.

503
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: What did you think about all of that? Allegedly allegedly

504
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Sorry your friends you know with me, right, this is

505
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: the thing, man, there's so much drama.

506
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: I'm a young man, right, yeah, whatever people's drama is

507
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: that drama, right, So it's just crazy to see it

508
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: all happening, was your opinion?

509
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: One fe allegedly cheating on Iris? I felt like there

510
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: was a lot of funny business going on after everyone

511
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: leaving the villa.

512
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm telling you Ryan.

513
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: And Amaya, there was like a lot of things. I

514
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: was like, Also, you guys are coming out into the world.

515
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: Obviously we're going to talk about how you felt that

516
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: your life changed leaving the villa, but you're coming out

517
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: as couples. Everyone's watching you, guys, everyone, you have all

518
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: eyes on you. I mean, allegedly hooking up with somebody

519
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: in a hotel lobby. You don't think you're going to

520
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: get caught.

521
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm telling you now, leaving that show

522
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 2: single is the safest thing that can possibly happen to you.

523
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: So you're not stoking some fake relationship where you have

524
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: to continue it and pretend that you guys like each

525
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: other just so the show can. Because then because if

526
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: the fans, if the leve Island viewers I prefer to

527
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: call them viewers, if they, you know, want are rooting

528
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: for that couple, and then all of a sudden, that couple,

529
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: like something goes wrong. It can be brutal. Whereas you know,

530
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: so mate, whatever happen, I don't know truly what happened there.

531
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I don't. I genuinely truly

532
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: don't know what happened at the hotel. I never spoke

533
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: to Pepe about it.

534
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: So you don't really talk to him that much.

535
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: If me and Pepe see each other, it's all good, man,

536
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean. I'm not texting, we're

537
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: not texting on a day to day, but like, you

538
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

539
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen that he's selling La Boo boos?

540
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? I saw the LEVV thing. I was buying them

541
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: front him. I was the top purchase. I was the guy,

542
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: but I didn't know. Yeah, man, I saw that, you

543
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: know so, But like, yeah, it's great. The thing is,

544
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: it's it's like I say about the thing about coming

545
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: out single in a way is because it is kind

546
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: of crazy when you come out. The reality is there

547
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: is a lot of female attention. Yeah right, And I

548
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: think some girls don't care if you're in a relationship

549
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: with someone. They might try and actually, you know, they

550
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: actually might want to be the person to ruin it,

551
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? They might want to

552
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: have that that thing of being like, well, you know

553
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: this person was with me. So you know, I don't

554
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: truly know what went down there. At the end of

555
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: the day.

556
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: Everyone's young, I don't I think a lot of girls

557
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: would try to ruin a Love Island relationship.

558
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 2: They would, wouldn't they? Yeah, they would.

559
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: Who do you think was the fakes? Person in the villa?

560
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: Facused some one that you didn't.

561
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: Feel that was like genuine or authentic?

562
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like people were authentic, But I

563
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: feel like people are different.

564
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: After Okay, so then answer after.

565
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 2: Well, for example, Hannah was always different after the villa. Yeah, okay.

566
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: There was a different energy and it was kind of like, well,

567
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is weird, do you know

568
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: what I mean? Hence why there's nuts? You know what

569
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying?

570
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you feel like leaving the villa? All

571
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: of this attention kind of got to people's heads?

572
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: I think everybody. Also, you've got to remember people are

573
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: probably exhausted of seeing each other's faces. Man, everybody's probably

574
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: over each other, do you know what I mean? It's

575
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: not just people was just like different. Like I wouldn't

576
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: say anybody in the villa was actually fake. I would

577
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: just say like, yeah, like so I actually think, yeah,

578
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: it's just different. After some people are just switching up

579
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: differently after do you know what I'm saying? Like, but

580
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: who do you.

581
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: Feel like was genuinely, really genuine on the show?

582
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: Austin. I think Austin was like an apologetically himself. I think,

583
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, I think who else was themselves? I think

584
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: Jalen is really great and he seemed very sweet. Yeah yeah,

585
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: I think, wait, no, sorry, my head's got a bit blank.

586
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: It's okay, those are the people you've thought they were

587
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: genuine It's okay.

588
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just think, yeah, that's what I would

589
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: say right now. He's come into my head right now.

590
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Amaya was the star of the season.

591
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: No, no, No, it wasn't. I knew I was great

592
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: when she was like a unique individual. The first I

593
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: spoke to her first before Hannah that night, and I

594
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: remember and she was speaking about New York and stuff

595
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: like that, and I was like, yoh, this girl's great.

596
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Man like, she's she's really cool. You know. Bear in mind,

597
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: I actually cooked breakfast for her and Hannah that morning.

598
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: It never showed that, but I cooked breakfast for both

599
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: of them. But things just progressed in me and Hannah quit. Yeah,

600
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised. I think she I think she went

601
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: Love Island. I think she went Love Island. She was

602
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: the first solo of Island Winner. Yeah, I think America

603
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: has fell in love with us.

604
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she was just so genuine. She was really herself,

605
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, she seemed very very real and she really

606
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: just showed all of her emotion. I feel like she

607
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: had a tough season, but then she came out on top,

608
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: so that was great. But if you had the third

609
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Wheel with Taylor and Clark or Asan Shelley, which couple

610
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: would you choose?

611
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: And that had to third week?

612
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: If you had to third wheel, do you know what

613
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: third wheeling is like? If you had a hangout, who

614
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: would you want to hang out with more? Taylor and

615
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: Clark or Ason Shelley.

616
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: I think I think and I'm going to go for

617
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: Taylor and Clark just purely for the fact. I think

618
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: it would be fun because I know Taylor's always doing

619
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: the rodeos and they're like country vibes, and I think

620
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: it would be there'd be a good laugh.

621
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Cool experience.

622
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ason Shelley cracked me up as well. I think

623
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: that Halloween costumes are really fun. I think, and they

624
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: did a Michelle Obama and Obama one, which is hilarious.

625
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: I think they're great as well. You know, I think

626
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: he's a good performer racism in terms of like he's talented.

627
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. What celebrity were you surprised to find in

628
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: your DM after the show?

629
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but I was. I was

630
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: very surprised to meet Make the Stallion at the airport.

631
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so cool, because you know.

632
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: How I got dumped, and then Make the Stallion came in.

633
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: I remember I was sitting in my room so salty.

634
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: I was so annoyed. I was like, these guys voted

635
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: me out and now they fro Meg the Stallion in.

636
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: I was so annoyed. And basically that night, a few

637
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: days later, when I was leaving the airport leaving, they

638
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: were like, Meg the Stallions here, she's on the same

639
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: flight as you.

640
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

641
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, do you reckon? I can? You know?

642
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm so the way I got done, And she was

643
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: like no, she because she said she mentioned me in

644
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: the show. You remember she actually said about I was

645
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: so upset about how they done. Charlie Charlie, and then

646
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: we met in the airport and she's cool. Man, She's

647
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: so cool.

648
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a cool experience.

649
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: She was dope, man.

650
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: I would love to meet Meg the Stallion for sure.

651
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: Fans were shocked to not see you on Beyond the

652
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Villa season two. What happened there? And why weren't you included?

653
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: So it's a bit it's complicated, but it's a situation.

654
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's going on. I don't know. I

655
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with that. But who's in

656
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: it again? Jeremiah?

657
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I think Jeremiah. I think Brian was Brian, Andrea yes, Chris.

658
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chris, yeah, man.

659
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: And so they just didn't ask you, m.

660
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: It's just, uh, I don't know what's going on with that, honestly.

661
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you should have been on, really yeah.

662
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: I totally believe that you should have been on. But

663
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: have you ever heard any feelings for anyone else? Now

664
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: that you are removed from the show? Are you open

665
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: to finding love now and being in a relationship?

666
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: You know, what's a really good question. I kind of

667
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: messed something really early on. Actually it's been really weird.

668
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: It's actually been really complicated and weird, and I'm really

669
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: annoyed to myself, but at the same time, I'm accepting

670
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: that it's all news. So basically, when I first came

671
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: out of the villa, there was a goal. There was

672
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: a girl really early on, and I forget you saw

673
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: what she was the first person I met up with

674
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: when I flew to la because I came back home

675
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: for five days. And she's great, beautiful girl, really great,

676
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: fun just and genuinely seeming like she actually like really

677
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: like cared and that. And I just think that as

678
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: the show people it started ending and people started coming

679
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: out and I was more parties, I think I just

680
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: kind of got a bit carried away with the excitement

681
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: and you know the things that come after it, you

682
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I kind of like, maybe you.

683
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, it's exciting, it's a new chapter. You're

684
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: not used to this world. Maybe you fumbled right now,

685
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: I fumbled, but maybe you could redeem yourself in a

686
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: little bit. Well.

687
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of them where it's like, at the

688
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: end of the day, you know, how we're all doing

689
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: this live thing for the first time, were then also

690
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: stepping into this world as well for the first time

691
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: as well, and just you know, and then you throw

692
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: alcohol in the mix and just like kind of book.

693
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: You know, she's cool, so we see, we'll see it's

694
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: it's yeah. So that that was early on, but now

695
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: it's like all that kind of excitement and fun it

696
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: only last for so long, and now I am kind

697
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: of the thing is, I can't start dating until I'm situated.

698
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: I can't date anybody while I'm moving around as soon

699
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: as I'm sitting around. How am I supposed to date

700
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: in LA? Though? I don't get how you're supposed to

701
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: date in LA?

702
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Hard question? I don't know. Really New York, I think

703
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy.

704
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: I feel like New York could be really good today.

705
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: New York just has so many places to go, so

706
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: many bars. It's just you could walk into a random

707
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: bar in New York and maybe find your girlfriend. You know.

708
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: There's just a lot to do here. Yeah, La, I

709
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot of girls in LA though,

710
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: a lot of pretty girls in LA.

711
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pretty girls in New York too, Yeah,

712
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: there is. I always feel like I'm going to fall

713
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: in live in a coffee shop here or something.

714
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: That's what well, and there's tons of that, So maybe

715
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: start in New York instead.

716
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: Of la It's too cold now, man, it's getting cold.

717
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: It is. Oh, it's rainy in England.

718
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Are you used to the Are you used to the

719
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: winters here?

720
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: Yeah? Very used to the winter.

721
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. Winter fashion for fashion, great.

722
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Love it, love it. I am a Canada goose sitting

723
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: right out there. If you moved to New York, you

724
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: had to invest in a Canada Goose.

725
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: But then don't you think it would also be the

726
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: wrong time of the year to try and my way

727
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: around New York in this weather as well? Like trying

728
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: to get I was trying to catch the subway the

729
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: other day. Man, It's not like the tube in London.

730
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: It's a bit more complicated.

731
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I mean, honestly, I think

732
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: the subway in the summer too, is brutal. It's what

733
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: It's so hard.

734
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: It was so cool in the summer being in New

735
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: York though, it's such a vibe here in the summer.

736
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: Everybody it's like London. This is the American London. Yeah,

737
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: this is American London. And have you been London? No?

738
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: I have not. I need to go.

739
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should go to London. You'd like yeah, you

740
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: like it.

741
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to go to London. But I mean, honestly,

742
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say this is a bad time of year.

743
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: I think honestly winters in the city. You're beautiful, and

744
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: especially Christmas you have Rockefellow Center. You have just so

745
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: much around it really is so beautiful, So definitely even

746
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: just come check it out during the holidays. Beautiful. What

747
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: did people not get to see about you on camera?

748
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I think, you know, just in general, just a bit

749
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: more time, you know, just to kind of unravel a

750
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: bit more about me, Like it would have been good

751
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: if you know, I really really wanted a date in there.

752
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: I wanted a chance to go on a date at least,

753
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: you know, kind of just showcase a bit more of

754
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: my personality. I think because it kind of happened so quick,

755
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: people saw a glimpse of it. But you know, there's

756
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: so much There's so much more, and it's kind of

757
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: like coming out now after the show, they're seeing a

758
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: bit more and yeah, just a bit, you know, just

759
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: more of me.

760
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you're more of a conversation person. You

761
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: want to get to them, you want to get to

762
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: know the person. Yeah, first, maybe before making out during

763
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: a challenge.

764
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. Like making

765
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: out it's fun and everything like it is good. And

766
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: you know, if you are kissing in there, it's fun

767
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: like that. Also, when you're cooping up with someone, it's

768
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: so much more relaxing. The first three days, I remember

769
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: they put me on the bed at the very end,

770
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: right this long ass room and like the bed at

771
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: the very end, right next to the eggon on my own,

772
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: just for three days, just like freezing, like, oh my god,

773
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: please don't get done first, because like genuinely like and

774
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: also the weird thing is you have dreams about the

775
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: villa while you're in the villa. I was dreaming about

776
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: the villa because that's all my brain had seen for

777
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: the last few days. I was dreaming about the villa

778
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: in the villa, then waking up in the villa. It

779
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: was kooky, man, So that was wild. But yeah, a

780
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: conversation is good. At the end of the day. You

781
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: can be a ten out of ten, you can be

782
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: so hot, but if when it actually comes to being

783
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: a partner, to actually building a partnership, you know, you've

784
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: got to have a conversation there. I've got for me

785
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: I want to come home from a you know, let's

786
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: talk about the world, what's going on. Let's maybe have

787
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: a little debate between each other. Let's you know, just

788
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: be able to converse about life and different things and

789
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: topics in a series or whatever, you know, Because it's

790
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: all good if someone's really attractive, but if they're not

791
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: actually fulfilling that the part that you're looking for, then

792
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: there's no point. Man. That's why I've never understood the

793
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: trophy wife thing. Do you know what I mean, like

794
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: just having a hot girl to walk around with?

795
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, because it's probably really boring at home.

796
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: It's probably really boring.

797
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, very boring, very boring. Would you ever do reality

798
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: TV again?

799
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: You know what? Never say never? Yeah, never say never.

800
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: But I now that I've got a taste of it,

801
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: I've realized that it is just drama. So essentially your

802
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: job would be drama, right, A.

803
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: Lot of drama. Yeah, I'm in the reality it's a

804
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: lot of drama.

805
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: What was the show you did with you were dressed in.

806
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: The camera and that Special Forces dude, that's insane of

807
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: awesome show, awesome, intense and hardest thing I've ever done

808
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: in my life. I ever done in my life. But

809
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: so like that was reality TV, but that was different.

810
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: There was no drama. You're honestly, you're looking up to

811
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: our military forces training you during selection, so the respect

812
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: level is here. There's no time for drama. You're fully

813
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: like blood, sweat and tears. Then I do my other show,

814
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: Next Gen NYC, which is a reality show on Bravo

815
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: filled with drama. You know, I grew up on Bravo.

816
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: My mom was on the Real Housewives in New Jersey.

817
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Ask your mother, full of drama, full of drama. So yes,

818
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: the reality TV world and being in this world a

819
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: lot of drama. But then obviously, you know, everything has

820
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: their ups and downs. You have your perks and then

821
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: you have your downfalls. But I feel like that's kind

822
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: of with anything in life. You go through your ups

823
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: and downs and you take on experiences that bring out

824
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the good and the bad. And that's kind of what

825
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I learned along this journey.

826
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you know, reality TV

827
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: or not, like Love Island genuinely has put me in

828
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: a great situation where it's full and it's new and

829
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: it's different. So yeah, there's no there's no judgment towards

830
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: reality TV. I'd just very much like to now. I'd

831
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: love to be able to just land a role in

832
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: something and just showcase that, Okay, this is this is

833
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: what I have been doing, like it.

834
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Would manifest it like you manifested Love.

835
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: Islands around too, and we're going around to now, you know.

836
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: So it would just be great to be part of.

837
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: I'd love to be part of something, you know, like

838
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: we're just talking about Sopranos.

839
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: That's iconic, right, I'm I'm on season five right now.

840
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: It is the best show.

841
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: It's so good.

842
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: It's so good.

843
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: It's like you know how it's like it's based in

844
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Jersey and does it feel like close to home though?

845
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Watching Oh yeah, I mean I'm my family's old school Italian,

846
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: so just watching it, I'm like, this is for your family,

847
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: like hilarious, Oh my god, it's amazing. But if Love

848
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: Island hold you tomorrow and ask you to do an

849
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: all Stars season, would you say yes?

850
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: So they're doing All Stars in the UK. But it's

851
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: like in January, and I'm kind of exhausted, man, because

852
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: I did Love Island Games and it was a stupid mistake.

853
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: It was way too soon. I was physically exhausted. Not

854
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: right now, not right now, No, no, no, not right

855
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: now now. I genuinely need to kind of just situate

856
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: and get a routine back. I'm not going to the

857
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: I've lost a lot of weight. I'm not going to

858
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: the gym. I'm not eating regularly. I need to feel

859
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: I need to feel good again. I'm not saying I

860
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: don't feel good, but I just need to not feel.

861
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: You want to feel yourself, Yeah.

862
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to. I want to feel like, you know,

863
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Speaker 2: the guy that went in there the first time round,

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Speaker 2: not someone that's like, oh, well, you know, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: really skinny right now and I'm not eating here and

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Speaker 2: I feel we you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's because of all the travels, and that's why

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Speaker 1: you got to get situated. You got to find your place,

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Speaker 1: the place that you want to be, get comfortable and

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Speaker 1: you'll thrive. Maybe try New York. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think you would like New York.

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Speaker 2: I really do, I really I do. I do, I do.

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Speaker 1: And there's so much here, so many influencers here, like acting, modeling,

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Speaker 1: you name it, Forbes, like Forbes, modeling is amazing. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity here to New.

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Speaker 2: York man, it's the problem. I think this is the

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Speaker 2: most iconic city in the world.

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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of agencies here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, legit, it's just I thought, like I didn't

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Speaker 2: really It's very expensive though, isn't it for accommodation here? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's a whole different beast.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why even you know, if you're in New York, obviously,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of outskirt towns brook that are very

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Speaker 1: easy to get into the city. Brooklyn is a great option,

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Speaker 1: super easy to commute into the city. Where you're at Weehawken,

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Speaker 1: Jersey City, Hoboken. There's a bunch of little towns right

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Speaker 1: outside the city that it's very easy to get into,

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Speaker 1: and it's a little more affordable, but you also get

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Speaker 1: a lot more for your money. Like you're living in

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Speaker 1: beautiful spaces New York. You pay crazy money and you're

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Speaker 1: living in a shoe box.

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Speaker 2: So, oh, do I just move to Miami?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, moved to my Miami's awesome too.

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Speaker 2: Miami's great.

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Speaker 1: Miami's awesome too. Oh my god. All right, Charlie, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on Casual Chaos. This

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Speaker 1: was such an amazing episode, and I really hope listeners

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Speaker 1: get a little get to know a little more about you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for giving me a ptorry. Thank you, Thank

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Speaker 2: you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.