Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast, brought
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Speaker 1: It's week seventeen. It's time to talk about some of
Speaker 1: our best bets. With me to do that is Scott Bogman.
Speaker 1: He's the co host of In This League podcast. You
Speaker 1: know him from the Betting Pros College Football Show and
Speaker 1: pretty much from everywhere. Find him on Twitter at Bogman Sports. Bogwin.
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time out of your busy day
Speaker 1: to pop on this pod. How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, man, Thank you for having me. I
Speaker 2: love talking to anything NFL always so yeah show.
Speaker 1: And we like talking to each other anyway, just because
Speaker 1: you know we've been on each other's podcast. It's good time.
Speaker 1: It's always fun. So long as we pick WINNERDS Bogman,
Speaker 1: that's all anybody cares about. Trust me. I can tell
Speaker 1: from the comments Center Tube channel, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I know from some of the emails I've got all right.
Speaker 1: So look usually, by the way, you guys have noticed
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, we have not done the look
Speaker 1: Ahead podcast like the early one just to take an
Speaker 1: early look at the lines. One of it was because
Speaker 1: it was just Christmas and getting people's hard. But right
Speaker 1: now with the COVID situation, man, like, is one.
Speaker 2: Hundred guys came off the COVID list today? Yeah, because it's.
Speaker 1: Getting a little easier obviously because of the fact that
Speaker 1: they change the protocol now, so like guys being put on.
Speaker 1: But now at this point, Bagman, I think if people
Speaker 1: get put on the list, they're out because you still
Speaker 1: need the five days, so this may still change things.
Speaker 1: We'll do the best we can, wait as long as
Speaker 1: possible to make your bets as full. Yes, my general recommendation.
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Speaker 1: Let's quickly do the recap of last week. Our guest
Speaker 1: Pat Fitzmorris took an over so you can only go
Speaker 1: up here bo. Yeah, it was a bad one. He
Speaker 1: was very upset about it, by the way. The one
Speaker 1: thing I will say about Pat is Pat takes this
Speaker 1: to heart more than anybody I know. Like he is
Speaker 1: like I can help believe it, blah blah blah. But
Speaker 1: he is a great on the prop bets for sure,
Speaker 1: and he's he's still been running hot on that, so
Speaker 1: make sure you check out his article at bettingpros dot com.
Speaker 3: But he missing the Chargers were one.
Speaker 1: The Chargers were one. Yes, yes, the.
Speaker 3: Chargers didn't miss on that. You know, everybody that was bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, anytime you're a double digit spread, though,
Speaker 1: it always makes me just you know whatever, It makes
Speaker 1: me tough this sort of take out. He also missed
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks playing six and a half to the
Speaker 1: Bears and the under forty three and a half points
Speaker 1: in the Bills Patriots, so he really wasn't close on
Speaker 1: any of them. I went two and one. Officially, I
Speaker 1: hit on the Bills getting two and a half from
Speaker 1: the Pats, the Raiders giving one to the Broncos, and
Speaker 1: I missed on the Ravens who were getting three to
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I did say, wait as long as possible,
Speaker 1: and then after that everybody was declared out and it
Speaker 1: was Joshahnson. But admittedly that game they would have probably lost.
Speaker 3: They didn't lose because of Josh Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's correct. They would have lost regardless of who was
Speaker 1: that quarterback. So I will take the l on that regardless,
Speaker 1: even though I did buy out of it, to be fair.
Speaker 1: Once everything moved, I'm now basically an even twenty four
Speaker 1: and twenty four in the year. So very exciting there.
Speaker 1: All right, Bogwin, you're our guest. You get to lead
Speaker 1: us off here. We just by the way, I just
Speaker 1: found out Bogwin's picks right before this, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to overlap on him, and I will say that
Speaker 1: one of them was my picks. I'm very excited about
Speaker 1: it bogwin, start us off anywhere you want. What do
Speaker 1: you got?
Speaker 2: Give me the Los Angeles Rams minus three and a
Speaker 2: half on the road against those Baltimore Ravens. And the
Speaker 2: reason I like the Rams in this game is number one, desperation.
Speaker 2: They need wins, right, They need to keep the Cardinals
Speaker 2: at arm's length here, so they they need this win.
Speaker 2: And just the patheticness of the Ravens defense that we
Speaker 2: saw last week. And it's not And I've hit this
Speaker 2: part home because I'm a Steelers fan and everybody knows
Speaker 2: that I don't like the Ravens. I don't like the Bengals,
Speaker 2: I don't like the Browns, right, So I get it.
Speaker 2: But it's not the Ravens' fault that they're bad. It's
Speaker 2: not like their best skill position players are playing terribly.
Speaker 2: They are down to guys off the street playing quarterback.
Speaker 2: Anthony Averrett, who was terrible, who was third in the
Speaker 2: league in yards given up, just had surgery and is
Speaker 2: out for the year. And they were starting that guy.
Speaker 2: So now Chris Westry and some other scrub are starting
Speaker 2: in the defensive backfield for them, and Chuck Clark hasn't
Speaker 2: been great all year, he's smart and he's the play
Speaker 2: caller for them, but he hasn't been great in coverage.
Speaker 2: So I just expect the Rams to sit and pick
Speaker 2: the Ravens apart, and I think they win by way
Speaker 2: more than three and a half, even on the road.
Speaker 2: Lamar's GIMPI we don't know what the offense is gonna
Speaker 2: look like, especially with this bust offensive line against erld
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald and company. I just don't see a way
Speaker 2: that the Ravens come away with a winning this game.
Speaker 2: So give me the Rams and I'll lay the points.
Speaker 1: My hesitation with it, bagman, is don't you think this
Speaker 1: spread begs you to take the Rams? Like I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at the Ravens right now. Their secondary, like
Speaker 1: you said, is just an embarrassment and nothing to them,
Speaker 1: Like they're just dealing with incredible amount of injuries and
Speaker 1: kudos to John Harbaugh for keeping them together as long
Speaker 1: as they have. But like I look at this and
Speaker 1: I'm like, of course I'm taking the Rams. You know,
Speaker 1: a team like the Rams, it gets me.
Speaker 3: I just they know they laid some eggs. They have.
Speaker 2: The Tennessee game after Derrick Henry got hurt was a
Speaker 2: huge eg but I think they're past that point in
Speaker 2: the season. And you know, some of it was growing
Speaker 2: pains with Matthew Stafford and mcveighe it's getting on the
Speaker 2: right page. But you saw him get on the right
Speaker 2: page last week. And it looks like they've been building.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 2: Henderson is down, but cam Akers is back now and
Speaker 2: Sony Michelle is in a bang up job placing Henderson
Speaker 2: as well. So and I know they lost Robert Woods,
Speaker 2: but god, ob jay like the offense is starting to
Speaker 2: click now. And yes, it is a little bit of
Speaker 2: a bait game, but I think it started out at
Speaker 2: three and it's because well, Lamar Jackson is going to play,
Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson makes the Ravens a different team, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't help their defense.
Speaker 3: Guy can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, he probably could play corner, but they're not
Speaker 2: going to put him out there to play corner, especially
Speaker 2: as campy as he is. So I understand your hesitation
Speaker 2: because the Rams have looked wishy washy this year, but
Speaker 2: I think they're.
Speaker 1: Locked in right now. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to
Speaker 1: see the line move. I guess in favor then, because
Speaker 1: it's true. And again we Lamar misspractice we're recording this
Speaker 1: on Thursday, Mispractice today, So his best bet is really Gimby.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you're looking at Huntley and you know
Speaker 1: who is off the COVID Reserve nineteen list obviously, but
Speaker 1: that's you know. I'm glad he played a great game
Speaker 1: in the one that he did against the Packers, but
Speaker 1: it's really hard to rely on them. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it. I'm probably not gonna bet at myself, but
Speaker 1: certainly there's no way I could back the Ravens in
Speaker 1: this spot. I'm gonna go Bogmin and I gotta lead
Speaker 1: with your with your boys, with your team, who I
Speaker 1: imagine you're not too happy with right now, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take them here, Bogman, get in three and a
Speaker 1: half against the Browns. I assume it is. Actually I'm
Speaker 1: gonna double check, make sure it's still at three. It's
Speaker 1: still three and a half. I'm taking them three and
Speaker 1: a half. And Bogman, you're a fan of the Steelers.
Speaker 1: You know the classic Mike Tomlin spots, of course, and
Speaker 1: this is one of them where you are left for dead.
Speaker 1: You're coming off a horrific performance, You're an underdog. You
Speaker 1: back Tomlin as an underdog. Yeah, Backham as an underdog
Speaker 1: late in the season. You back them as a home dog, like,
Speaker 1: that's just what you do. It's a second divisional game here.
Speaker 1: Those games are always tight, like, regardless of anything, regardless
Speaker 1: of the disparity among the teams, a second divisional game
Speaker 1: is almost always tight. It's Ben's last game. There's my
Speaker 1: garage door. Everybody knows who listens to the podcast still
Speaker 1: still going. Don't worry about it. Every podcast doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It will happen. Okay, so it Ben's last game in
Speaker 1: hinz Field all but confirmed as of today. They are terrible.
Speaker 1: Of course, they look parable against the Chiefs, but the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are really really good, especially at home. Like Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield's not playing great. He just had the four pick game.
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. I came across the stat on Twitter. Admittedly
Speaker 1: I did not find in myself Kevin Stefanski in divisional
Speaker 1: games is one to nine against the spread, which I
Speaker 1: did not know. Came across it verified it. So that's crazy. Now,
Speaker 1: look the on paper, you're like, okay, great, let's take
Speaker 1: a great running team like the Browns and let's put
Speaker 1: them against one of the worst rush defenses in all
Speaker 1: football with the Steelers. That's not good. But Pittsburgh's thirtieth
Speaker 1: in defensive DVOA against the run thirty first in defensive
Speaker 1: DVOA against the run is the Packers who still just
Speaker 1: managed to beat the Browns here. So again, I don't
Speaker 1: love the Browns, Bogman. It really is like I think
Speaker 1: Mayfield is just, you know, considering all the injuries stuff
Speaker 1: like that, not playing well. I think this is just
Speaker 1: a spot where Tomlin somehow figures out a way to
Speaker 1: get them up off that loss. Would you with the hook?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't love it at three, although I'll probably bet
Speaker 1: them on the money line too, just because I do
Speaker 1: that always with a short home dog. But getting the hook, Bogwin,
Speaker 1: I like it. Talk to me about your team.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's they're not good.
Speaker 2: I'll say, this is one of the worst Steelers teams
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, But the worst Steeler team I ever
Speaker 2: seen is about an average Browns team, you know, so,
Speaker 2: and that's.
Speaker 3: What you know.
Speaker 2: The Browns are probably better than the Steelers right now.
Speaker 2: But you know, all the stuff that you just said,
Speaker 2: you got to take in consideration. Ben's teammates playing for
Speaker 2: his pride in this game, because his regular season record
Speaker 2: against the Browns is twenty five to three and one
Speaker 2: in his career. So you know, I'm picking the Steelers too.
Speaker 2: I never bet the Steelers because I find that to
Speaker 2: be bad luck for me and I hate losing twice,
Speaker 2: you know, losing in my real life with my team
Speaker 2: and then my mom too, So I just never find
Speaker 2: that to be good luck. They do match up well
Speaker 2: here the Browns against Pittsburgh because they are running team
Speaker 2: against a bad running defense. But in the divisional games,
Speaker 2: things get weird, especially in AFC North divisional games. I
Speaker 2: mean Cleveland was clicking on all cylinders early earlier in
Speaker 2: this year they played Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh won fifteen to ten,
Speaker 2: you know, so just it doesn't make any sense sometimes
Speaker 2: this rivalry. So I'm definitely taking the Steelers at home
Speaker 2: with his teammates playing for him in his very last
Speaker 2: home game for Ben.
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to be shocked, man, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be shocked if they not. I could see them losing.
Speaker 2: I think if Cleveland wins, they blow the doors off Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's every close win. I think if
Speaker 2: Cleveland wins, it's going to be just like the playoff
Speaker 2: game last year. They come in, they stunned the Steelers
Speaker 2: and then they're stunned for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: With something like that, I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be a down to the wire win for Cleveland. I
Speaker 2: think if it's down to the wire, I would favorite Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: The craziest thing, Bagman, is that both of these teams
Speaker 1: at this point like could be this could be a
Speaker 1: fight for the division. That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're both in playoff contention still somehow with
Speaker 2: the terrible seasons that they're having, and they're both you know,
Speaker 2: not good. But we've seen weird stuff happen in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So all you got to do is get in, get
Speaker 2: into the playoffs, and that's the goal for everybody right now.
Speaker 1: I think if the Chiefs beat the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Browns control their own destiny to win the division, I
Speaker 1: think that's what it is. And the Steelers if they
Speaker 1: win and then the Bengals is next week, and then
Speaker 1: the Steelers. If the Browns beat the Bengals next week,
Speaker 1: win the division for.
Speaker 2: The Steelers to win the division, but they can still
Speaker 2: get a wild card.
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, Yeah, the Bargers.
Speaker 2: Are playing the way the Ravens are playing, and the
Speaker 2: Browns and everybody in front of them is not good
Speaker 2: except for maybe Miami. Yeah, it's that last seed is
Speaker 2: up for grabs for sure.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. I do not expect Miami to win this game,
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a little bit, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I will. I Everything about this points to the Steelers
Speaker 1: here and again, there have been games where I've been like,
Speaker 1: this is almost spot, I love it, and then they
Speaker 1: I think against the second game against the Bengals where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this perfect spot, second divisional game,
Speaker 1: and then they just got their brains beat in That
Speaker 1: happens obviously on occasion. If they go in here on
Speaker 1: Monday night the Browns and beat the crap out of
Speaker 1: the Steelers, I'm just I'm just gonna be totally floored
Speaker 1: by it. So give me a Steelers getting the three
Speaker 1: and a half. Go to your number two pick here, Boga.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay in the same game I just mentioned.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over for the Rams and Ravens
Speaker 2: as well. Like you said, Lamar, looking GIMPI probably better
Speaker 2: for the over because I'd rather have a healthy Tyler
Speaker 2: Huntley in there than a fifty percent Lamar Jackson, which
Speaker 2: looks like it's going to trend towards that way. But
Speaker 2: like I said, the Rams are going to get most
Speaker 2: of this. I think the Rams score five touchdowns, so
Speaker 2: it's thirty five of this forty six and a half
Speaker 2: of the over here. So we're asking the Ravens to
Speaker 2: score twice two touchdowns, and I think they can do that,
Speaker 2: even if it's in garbage time. You know, Betting the
Speaker 2: over is frustrating sometimes because what you do is you
Speaker 2: look at that first half and you go, all right, well,
Speaker 2: they're not pacing. They're not pacing at all. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody does this. Everyone who the over goes this pace
Speaker 2: is not right. They're off the pace, you know. But
Speaker 2: also you got to remember more points scored in the
Speaker 2: second half, right, Defenses retired in offenses make adjustments. Right,
Speaker 2: So then in the third quarter you're like, okay, all right, okay,
Speaker 2: And in the fourth quarter you're getting closer and closer
Speaker 2: until you eventually hit it or you know you don't.
Speaker 2: But in the fourth quarter you have a pretty good idea.
Speaker 2: But I do I expect the Rams to pick the
Speaker 2: Ravens defensive part, and I think they get the majority
Speaker 2: of this over. And I think both these teams, you know,
Speaker 2: no one is great as far as their record on
Speaker 2: over unders. Right, the best record for over unders is
Speaker 2: nine and six this year Philly, the Jets, Minnesota all
Speaker 2: nine and six. The Rams are eight six and one,
Speaker 2: so they have the best record in playing second best
Speaker 2: record in playing towards the over this season. The Ravens
Speaker 2: are eight and seven. So you know, these are two
Speaker 2: teams that hit the over more often than most other
Speaker 2: teams in the NFL, so I think this lends towards
Speaker 2: that over as well. Plus just the bad state of
Speaker 2: this Ravens secondary. So giving the Rams over and the
Speaker 2: Rams and lay the points, I like bet on that
Speaker 2: game this week. Yeah, against the Ravens too. It's fun.
Speaker 1: Sure, why not just go Ravens every single time? This
Speaker 1: was one of my picks, Yes, I agree, I had it,
Speaker 1: which I was like, oh, interesting, because usually we're able
Speaker 1: to share picks beforehand, you and I weren't. You were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you what they are, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we don't overlap. And that was oddly enough,
Speaker 1: the one over under that I had. I agree with
Speaker 1: you completely in this one. I think the Rams are
Speaker 1: going to put up a ton of points. Again, talked
Speaker 1: about it when you talked about the spread, just the secondary.
Speaker 1: They're just going to be able to pass all over them.
Speaker 1: And I do think you're right. I don't expect Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson to go at this point. I think when you're
Speaker 1: out there and you're really, really gimpy and then you're
Speaker 1: a DNP the next day like that just can't be good.
Speaker 1: And I think it's better for the Ravens offense then
Speaker 1: if you have a fully healthy Tyler Huntley with the
Speaker 1: entire week to prepare and really multiple weeks at this point,
Speaker 1: rather than a gimbie Lamar Jackson. So I agree with
Speaker 1: you over forty six and a half, I will adopt
Speaker 1: your play. My next pick, bog when is the Titans
Speaker 1: length three and a half to the Dolphins. This is
Speaker 1: much more about a fade of the Dolphins. Dolphins streak
Speaker 1: when you look at it, it's been really remarkable. It's
Speaker 1: just basically beaten the worst teams in the history of
Speaker 1: football with when you consider the quarterback play other than
Speaker 1: the real I mean in book would look almost ready
Speaker 1: for like a pee wee football game. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: was not. It was not close. Yes, I mean, you
Speaker 1: think about it. It's the Texans, the Jets twice, the Panthers,
Speaker 1: the Giants with Glennon, the Saints with Book, and the Ravens.
Speaker 1: That game on Thursday was very impressive. With the Ravens,
Speaker 1: I admit on that one. But you know, they're just
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a very good football team. Overall,
Speaker 1: They're fine. Pro Football Reference Bagman has a rating system
Speaker 1: which shows basically that the Dolphins are two points worse
Speaker 1: than the average football team. The Titans are two and
Speaker 1: a half points better than the average football team. So
Speaker 1: if you gave that credence and you put that together,
Speaker 1: it be four and a half points spread on a
Speaker 1: neutral site. This is a three and a half point
Speaker 1: spread in Tennessee. I think with AJ Brown back, And
Speaker 1: again we have to watch this because Julio Jones was
Speaker 1: placed on the COVID nineteen reserve list. If Brown gets
Speaker 1: put on it, I'm off this game obviously entirely. But
Speaker 1: obviously Julio make come back now that matters. You saw
Speaker 1: what AJ Brown can do and I get.
Speaker 2: Save how good he was a practice in oh, like whatever,
Speaker 2: what eight weeks or whatever, a practice and a half.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not starting to Ancient Brown. I'm
Speaker 2: not brave brave now Fryan tannels like like garbage the
Speaker 2: whole year. And then he just went crazy against the
Speaker 2: Niners on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Now I mean without without Mosley, Like their secondary is
Speaker 1: terrible anyway, I get it. But I was completely with you.
Speaker 1: And again we do fantasy as well, and I ranked
Speaker 1: AJ Brown and when I was like sort of doing
Speaker 1: my projection, it was like, there's just no way he's
Speaker 1: going to get enough snaps at this point. But what
Speaker 1: was great about that bagman is at some point it
Speaker 1: was like it was like somebody getting on a heater
Speaker 1: with like a guy in craps getting on a heater
Speaker 1: with a roll.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You were just like all, I'm just going to you,
Speaker 1: going to you, and they knew it was going to Brown.
Speaker 1: There was nothing they could do about it. And that
Speaker 1: is how good he actually is. So I do think
Speaker 1: like regardless of the secondary, because the Dolphins secondary, which
Speaker 1: at one point was just they were the names are great,
Speaker 1: right obviously you know.
Speaker 2: They played musical chairs a lot in the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year with that secondary they went with Nick need
Speaker 2: Him for a while and it was just like Coleman
Speaker 2: and they bounce around, but they did finally Javon holland
Speaker 2: Brandon Johnes they settled on their safeties and they're both
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 1: But I still think that even though they are now
Speaker 1: finally sort of more back to what we kind of
Speaker 1: expected them to be in the preseason, it's still I
Speaker 1: just think that Brown being there, even without Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: and you know, Theonta Foreman has been fine. They couldn't
Speaker 1: get much going against s Francisco. I just think they're
Speaker 1: a much better team, and I think that I like,
Speaker 1: I don't love the hook like obviously, but I still
Speaker 1: think this is a game they're gonna win by a
Speaker 1: touchdown with Brown back. So and again I'm assuming Budgetree
Speaker 1: by the way, comes off the COVID list as well.
Speaker 1: So that's something that I'm just with the new protocols,
Speaker 1: but I will take them. Bogman much more of a
Speaker 1: fade of the Dolphins. You've got the Titans, by the way,
Speaker 1: with the ability potentially here to now seal the division.
Speaker 1: Win that one They're still in the air for the
Speaker 1: number one seed, you know, depending especially on what happens
Speaker 1: with the Bengals against Chiefs. Can't get that buy. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Titan deer Lang three and alfter.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, I I don't like that. I definitely took
Speaker 2: Miami in this game, but I tend to get Tennessee
Speaker 2: wrong like most weeks because like we said, you know,
Speaker 2: the Rams, who we thought were gonna beat the crap
Speaker 2: out of Tennessee after Derrick Henry lost at home to them,
Speaker 2: so they do pull off some weird wins, but then
Speaker 2: they lost to Pittsburgh, And I told you Pittsburgh is
Speaker 2: not a good team, So, like you know, Tennessee is
Speaker 2: a bit of a roller coaster.
Speaker 3: The Dolphins too.
Speaker 2: I think if Taysom Hill starts that game, I don't
Speaker 2: think the Dolphins win it. Right, You're not getting to
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill eight.
Speaker 1: Are you impressed by that win over the doll I'm
Speaker 1: not impressed by.
Speaker 2: Because the Saints were in it the whole time with
Speaker 2: Ian book and I said, I told my friend Bubba
Speaker 2: on our Line Star show, I said, I would rather
Speaker 2: have Mason Rudolph than Ian Book. He's like, well, that's
Speaker 2: all you need to know about Ian Book. Know how
Speaker 2: much you hate Mason Rudolph. Yes, absolutely, Ian Book wasn't
Speaker 2: good at Notre Dame. I can't I believe he got drafted,
Speaker 2: you know, And I thought they were gonna end up
Speaker 2: doing that same stuff with Taysom Hill that you know,
Speaker 2: that's why they draft drafted I in Book, right, But
Speaker 2: sometimes you draft a guy like Danny Etling to turn
Speaker 2: him into a wide receiver like the Patriots did, who
Speaker 2: play quarterback at LSU, And so I thought, maybe they're
Speaker 2: gonna move in positions. That was my first thought when
Speaker 2: he and Book got drafted. Not he's going to start
Speaker 2: a game when they're down to the third string quarterback
Speaker 2: ever in the NFL. So them not blowing them out
Speaker 2: of the water made me go, Okay, you know, the
Speaker 2: offense was really just not great. It's all Jayla Wattle.
Speaker 2: That's all they have right now. So yeah, they're screwing
Speaker 2: around with those running backs way too much. Stuke Johnson
Speaker 2: and Philip lindsay now because Gascon is coming off the
Speaker 2: COVID and all that stuff, I just both these seems
Speaker 2: to me are hard to figure out. So yes, I'll
Speaker 2: say I'm taking Miami, but it's not with a great
Speaker 2: amount of confidence.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and again I think everything you're saying is correct.
Speaker 1: The Titans have been a very tough team to figure
Speaker 1: out because again, they were winning all these games. Once
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry went out where you were like, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: really be winning these games.
Speaker 2: And then they play Pittsburgh and you're like, beat the
Speaker 2: crap out of Pittsburgh and they don't win.
Speaker 1: And even by the way, this game against the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, which I was on the Titans and I
Speaker 1: thought after the first drive, I was like, boy, this
Speaker 1: was a terrible pick and maybe they wouldn't have even
Speaker 1: won if Garoppolo apparently hadn't gotten hurt in that game.
Speaker 1: Like who knows, but they have they they have a way, man,
Speaker 1: they have a way of figuring out this tough and
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we like.
Speaker 2: A first round out, but they're gonna have Derrick Henry back,
Speaker 2: so that changes a whole landscape of this team, so absolutely.
Speaker 3: And who knows.
Speaker 1: And again, a big part of it really is the
Speaker 1: fade of the Dolphins. Rather than buying the I think
Speaker 1: that I just think this is going to end This ride,
Speaker 1: which has been incredible sort of to watch, is just
Speaker 1: going to end at some point. So that's my second pick.
Speaker 1: How about your third pick?
Speaker 2: My third pick, I'm going to roll with the over
Speaker 2: in the Seattle and Detroit game.
Speaker 3: It's forty two and a half, so it's low.
Speaker 2: You know, we get a twenty one twenty one game
Speaker 2: and then have a field goal kicked and we're right there.
Speaker 2: The twenty four to twenty one game gets us home,
Speaker 2: and that's what I expected in this game. I don't
Speaker 2: expect it to go way way over, But I do
Speaker 2: think that the Lions are a better offense with Jared
Speaker 2: Goff and instead of Tim Boyle. That's why they only
Speaker 2: put up sixteen points last week. Jared Goff is back,
Speaker 2: it's not great. In fact, the only person worse at
Speaker 2: throwing the ball down the field this year then Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 2: is Jared Goff. But the Seattle defense was bad the
Speaker 2: whole year. Now with Jamal Adams out, it is horrific.
Speaker 2: You just saw the Bearers come back with Nick Foles
Speaker 2: against them in Seattle, and that game.
Speaker 3: Was twenty five twenty four.
Speaker 2: So the Lions are a covering machine, but their secondary
Speaker 2: has been beat to crap too. This is another team
Speaker 2: a lot like the Ravens, not necessarily their fault. They've
Speaker 2: had so many guys in the secondary go down. Jerry
Speaker 2: Jacobs I didn't know about before the season started, and
Speaker 2: he started a ton of games for this team. Blowed
Speaker 2: his knee and he's out, so they're down too. Guys
Speaker 2: I've never heard of once again starting for them at
Speaker 2: the end of the year because of injuries plus COVID,
Speaker 2: plus you know, just being not a great team. So
Speaker 2: I expect Tyler Lockett to go crazy. He's one of
Speaker 2: my DFS picks this week. I think Metcalf could go
Speaker 2: crazy too.
Speaker 3: A monor.
Speaker 2: Saint Brown has proven that he is a quarterback proof.
Speaker 2: Seahawks can't can't stop the run to save their life.
Speaker 2: They can't do anything on defense. Man, it's a bad roster.
Speaker 2: So I think that this game is definitely gonna go over.
Speaker 2: I expect the Seahawks to win it, but I don't
Speaker 2: have a ton of confidence in them because the Lions
Speaker 2: are covering machines. So the Lions might win this game
Speaker 2: straight up. But I do love the over because both
Speaker 2: these defenses are poors.
Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, you make a good case for it.
Speaker 1: And at forty two and a half, you really don't
Speaker 1: need much to go right to go over that game right.
Speaker 2: One going into the fourth to get us a field
Speaker 2: goal to win it, long as it doesn't die.
Speaker 1: And you can see them like you can see the
Speaker 1: Seahawks basically trying to have a game where just things
Speaker 1: go right in the passing game, just for Russell. Get
Speaker 1: this taste out of their mouth like it has been
Speaker 1: terrible right now.
Speaker 2: And if you got Russ to stay too, you got
Speaker 2: to make it fun for him. You got to make
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks and putting up points and
Speaker 2: seeing the silver lining for next year so he doesn't
Speaker 2: demand that trade that he didn't really demand this year
Speaker 2: kind of buddy, did you know whatever it was? So
Speaker 2: you know, if you want him to stay, you gotta
Speaker 2: make it. You gotta make it so he wants to
Speaker 2: So you gotta make him have fun. Put up some
Speaker 2: points with them, let Russ cook as the kids can say, Dan.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do like that phrase, those those children who
Speaker 1: use it. Yeah, all right, so I'm with you. Actually
Speaker 1: I like it. I hadn't considered that game, but that
Speaker 1: that's really not a bad one. So you stole my
Speaker 1: over under for the day with a round. So I'll
Speaker 1: pivot and I'll go with the and I'm gonna consider it.
Speaker 1: I'll go with the under on the Broncos Charters game
Speaker 1: at forty five and a half. And what this this
Speaker 1: really boils down to a couple of days. One is
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, who I think, I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: officially been named the starter, but the expectation is that
Speaker 1: he's going to start. And I understand that the charge
Speaker 1: generally speaking, have a porous run defense. So you might
Speaker 1: see Melvin Gordon and Javonte Williams get seventy five. They're
Speaker 1: both limited. And you know that the Chargers defense, it
Speaker 1: depends on the health and stuff like that. They're not
Speaker 1: always the absolute Steve now they were obviously last week,
Speaker 1: but they're not always the absolute, but regardless, they're limited
Speaker 1: in either way. Like, if you are the Chargers, okay, there,
Speaker 1: what is to prevent you from stacking the box up
Speaker 1: the wazoo right now? Because there's just no chance that
Speaker 1: Drew Lock is going to beat you? And there's no
Speaker 1: chance that the Broncos want to allow Drew Lock to
Speaker 1: be the person who decides the game. They're gonna run
Speaker 1: it all day and again, even if they gain yard,
Speaker 1: it's like the more you run the ball, the more
Speaker 1: the clock bleeds. And that's just how it's gonna be necessarily.
Speaker 1: And the Broncos defense is solid. They know the Chargers
Speaker 1: pretty well, so I don't expect the Chargers necessarily to
Speaker 1: go up and put up you know, a thirty spot
Speaker 1: or anything here. But realistically, I think the Broncos with
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. I mean, you watch that game against just
Speaker 1: a Raiders defense that should not be able to stop anybody,
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't do anything whatsoever. We've seen Lock
Speaker 1: enough here, so it's more of a fate of what
Speaker 1: we're going to see from the Broncos offense necessarily than
Speaker 1: the Chargers. But I'll I'll lean towards the under here
Speaker 1: at the forty five and a half. Again, if I
Speaker 1: were going to have my pick of the litta, it
Speaker 1: would have been the over forty six and a half
Speaker 1: with that with the Bronx, but I lean under, So.
Speaker 2: I'm right, I'm also taking the under in this game
Speaker 2: because of you know, mainly the points that you just said,
Speaker 2: I how are you trusting Drew Lock, Like I've watched
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater all year and I go, God, Drew Lock's
Speaker 2: got to be better than this.
Speaker 3: Watch one game of Drew Lock.
Speaker 1: And I go, absolutely not. He is not.
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater is better, and they both are terrible. Like
Speaker 2: this is a team that is a quarterback away. They
Speaker 2: have good weapons and everything, but uh, you know, the
Speaker 2: quarterback ain't there this week. So I'm absolutely with you
Speaker 2: give me the under here because the Chargers are in
Speaker 2: a weird funk right now. Justin Herbert could get a
Speaker 2: lot of this, but the Denver defense is solid. You know,
Speaker 2: I play good ball, so they're gonna limit what the
Speaker 2: Chargers can do on offense. It's not gonna be like
Speaker 2: playing the Texans where Justin Jackson has one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty yards and a touchdown and all that stuff. So
Speaker 2: I'm with you on the under in this game, mainly
Speaker 2: because I don't trust either offense right now, and I
Speaker 2: do trust Denver's defense, So we're some potico as far
Speaker 2: as that game goes.
Speaker 3: For sure, I.
Speaker 1: Love it all right, Well, recap at the end, but bogwan,
Speaker 1: let's fly through the remaining spreads and just let me
Speaker 1: know if you've got to lean one way or the other. Okay, yep,
Speaker 1: Pats are laying sixteen to the Jaguars in New England. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't scored a touchdown with Trevor Lawrence for
Speaker 2: a month, so give me the Patriots.
Speaker 1: And I agree. I don't ever actually take these giant spreads.
Speaker 1: But man, there's just I don't know what the spread
Speaker 1: would have to be to get me to feel comfortable
Speaker 1: taking the Jaguars in this game. With the Pats off
Speaker 1: a bad loss as well, Ye, try toe of something,
Speaker 1: all right. So we go to another big spread. Next,
Speaker 1: the Bucks laying thirteen to the Jets in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: I'll lay it.
Speaker 2: The Jets have packed up and gone to gotten to
Speaker 2: bed for the winner, so Tampa Bay wins this game.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, Bogman, that all of the big favorites
Speaker 1: are going to cover, But I'm taking a.
Speaker 3: Big versus LA for sure this week, so.
Speaker 1: I'm still taking them though I every everything.
Speaker 3: There's one double digit spread I will not take.
Speaker 1: Better not be the Bills against the Falcons, because I
Speaker 1: am taking this. Okay, I'm also with the Bucks here,
Speaker 1: and again we are we both do fantasy rankings. I
Speaker 1: certainly hope for my championship teams that everybody in the
Speaker 1: Bucks decides to go nuts in this game and as
Speaker 1: a Jets fan.
Speaker 2: Box are hurt in the champions Ah, Mike Evans Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, that is bad. But I will say
Speaker 1: that again. You mentioned about, you know, the double whammy
Speaker 1: when you bet you know on your team. Like a
Speaker 1: great thing about being a Jets fan is I can
Speaker 1: almost always confidently bet against the Jets and almost it
Speaker 1: usually works out. Uh, the Raiders, for you.
Speaker 2: Would be they win because you lose your money and
Speaker 2: they lose that draft pick. So you know, it slips
Speaker 2: a little further and further every time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let me tell you my friend I had
Speaker 1: in a teaser this week because I didn't trust the
Speaker 1: exact spread the Jaguars getting eight and a half, and
Speaker 1: I was like, they're going to cover this spread somehow.
Speaker 1: They're going to do this somehow and win this game.
Speaker 1: Is carverble. They still won, which sucked for me, but
Speaker 1: again I did thankfully when the teaser. But yeah, it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's never a fun time. Raiders getting six and a
Speaker 1: half from the Colts. We're assuming Carson Wentz comes back here.
Speaker 1: By the way, I guess you know, with the way
Speaker 1: it is, but what do you think.
Speaker 2: I don't care with the way the Colts defense has
Speaker 2: been playing and the way that the whole offense is
Speaker 2: hand the ball to Jonathan Taylor. And I watched Sam
Speaker 2: Aliger play a lot in college and love him and
Speaker 2: hope he gets a start eventually, but it's going to
Speaker 2: be Carson Wentz. So I think the Colts win this
Speaker 2: one going away.
Speaker 1: Eagles are visiting Washington and laying three and a half. Now, bagman,
Speaker 1: this one strikes me as something where the books are
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, take the Eagles. Take the Eagles, obviously,
Speaker 1: because we are very confident in that in you doing
Speaker 1: that right, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm going to springboard into the trap too, because Washington,
Speaker 2: oh you are, yeah, playing that egg it really it's
Speaker 2: for this reason. Ron Rivera and I just I don't
Speaker 2: like it in college, and I despise it in The
Speaker 2: pros said that Heineke's going to start, but Kyle Allen's
Speaker 2: going to get time. Break up that offensive rhythm. I
Speaker 2: don't care who you are, you can't do that in
Speaker 2: a in any game, so especially a home game against
Speaker 2: the division rivals. So you're showing that you have no
Speaker 2: confidence in either one of these guys that were fist
Speaker 2: fighting on the sideline last week. Oh yeah, Washington is
Speaker 2: a sinking ship right now. So give me Philly.
Speaker 1: I know, man, they and the books want you to
Speaker 1: do that, right like they do. Who what normal better
Speaker 1: looks at this line and business, You know what, gimme Washington.
Speaker 1: I feel like nobody is going to do that, and
Speaker 1: they're just laying it out there for it. But you're
Speaker 1: walking into it. Huh.
Speaker 2: I'm walking right into it. And if it snaps me up,
Speaker 2: it snaps me up, I'll take the Bay.
Speaker 1: I'm coming with you. Don't worry about all right? All right?
Speaker 1: All right? Is this the one bogwin Bills at home
Speaker 1: laying fourteen and a half against Falcons.
Speaker 3: No, I'm taking the Bills in this game. They need
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 2: They need to keep New England at Bay, Miami at
Speaker 2: Bay right now. They need to lock up this division,
Speaker 2: and you got to give this offense and the defense
Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence moving into towards the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So I think they blow out the Falcons. Another team
Speaker 2: that's just why is coudrel Patterson not on the field
Speaker 2: every snap.
Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: You know, Kyle Pitts has been okay, they misuse Mike
Speaker 2: Davis the whole year, and he's also not as good
Speaker 2: as he was last year.
Speaker 3: So this team is a big mess.
Speaker 2: Right now, specifically on defense, and Josh Allen's going to
Speaker 2: pick him apart totally.
Speaker 1: With you Chiefs playing five to the Bengals in CINCI, I.
Speaker 2: Mean this is mainly I want to see it, so
Speaker 2: I am taking the Chiefs. But also the Chiefs being
Speaker 2: able to adjust their offense to play against certain defenses
Speaker 2: instead of just throw the ball down field has been
Speaker 2: kind of scary to watch this year, and specifically for
Speaker 2: me last week when I was on instagram sending piece
Speaker 2: of p a bunch of reels instead of watching the
Speaker 2: second half of my game because it's just hurt to
Speaker 2: watch every play they were doing something wrong on So
Speaker 2: you know, I think that they go into the jungle
Speaker 2: and we get escalator of sadness leaving it for the Bengals,
Speaker 2: which is something I love. So give me the Chiefs
Speaker 2: and I'll lay the points.
Speaker 1: I'm with you as well, and it's just it's got
Speaker 1: to be a letdown spot man like for the Bengals
Speaker 1: coming in here off that huge enormous win over the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I just I agree. I think the Chiefs come in,
Speaker 1: I think they win handily. Giants are visiting the Bears.
Speaker 1: Bears are laying six points.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hate this game. I don't have a
Speaker 3: lean either way.
Speaker 2: I'll take the Giants because I don't trust the Bears
Speaker 2: to beat anybody by six. But this is a which
Speaker 2: coach gets fired first ball. As far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: I hope it's Joe Judge. I hate this Jake from
Speaker 2: and Mike Glennon nonsense. I hate that he hasn't used
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley properly. You signed Kenny Galladay, give him no
Speaker 2: confidence moving forward. You have good offensive weapons and they're
Speaker 2: all terrible this year. So I think I like Joe
Speaker 2: Judge less than I. If I had to pick one
Speaker 2: to be head coach of my team, I picked Naggy
Speaker 2: all day, every day over Joe Judge.
Speaker 3: But I don't trust the bearst be anybody by that
Speaker 3: many points.
Speaker 1: So give me the Giants, bagman. If you gave me
Speaker 1: your money and said please bet on this game, I
Speaker 1: would still decline because I just have absolutely like I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine. I don't want to watch it. I
Speaker 1: don't want to bet on it. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Like it's like the first game the
Speaker 1: whole year where I'm like, holy cow, please just let
Speaker 1: me get know. It's not gonna be the game.
Speaker 3: Where they go to it on the red zone. I'm like, ugh,
Speaker 3: go to anything else.
Speaker 1: Literally, any other game show me or replay.
Speaker 3: How about that, show me Jags. I'd rather watch the
Speaker 3: Jags in this.
Speaker 1: Let's go. The Chargers, as we talked about, are at home.
Speaker 1: They're laying six and a half here to the Broncos.
Speaker 1: How about the spread.
Speaker 2: I'd taken the Chargers because they're at home and they
Speaker 2: just got embarrassed. They have to win, so I'm taking them,
Speaker 2: and Drew Lock sucks. I mean that's, you know, not
Speaker 2: with confidence, but I will take them.
Speaker 1: I agree, I would take them as well. Again, I
Speaker 1: just can't like it was really I felt discussing backing
Speaker 1: the Raiders last week, but I was like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's true, Locke, It's a very easy formula and it
Speaker 1: did work out. Is this the spread Bogwin. The forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers laying twelve and a half to the Texans.
Speaker 2: Is the one that's the one right there, and it's
Speaker 2: because I just don't trust you know, it seems like
Speaker 2: Trey Lance is going to start this game and I
Speaker 2: just don't trust them. And look, Houston is playing decent football.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and tell you they're
Speaker 2: playing good football because they're not. But they're playing decent
Speaker 2: football right now, which is not something I expected to
Speaker 2: say into a microphone after watching them for the first
Speaker 2: month of the season.
Speaker 3: They have been terrible.
Speaker 2: But you know, Culley's got these guys playing at least hard,
Speaker 2: and Mills is going to be their answer next year too.
Speaker 2: So let's get Nico Collins involve. Brandon Cooks is fine.
Speaker 2: Rex Burkhead had a huge game last week too, right,
Speaker 2: So it's if this was Jimmy g at full health,
Speaker 2: I would take the Niners and lay the points. But
Speaker 2: it's Trey Lance, and I just don't know what to
Speaker 2: expect from him. I would expect him to be better,
Speaker 2: but I would be shocked if he was worse. You know,
Speaker 2: he's running scout team this whole time, So give me
Speaker 2: Houston in this game without.
Speaker 3: A ton of confidence.
Speaker 2: I just don't think the Niners with Tree Lance can
Speaker 2: be in anybody by double digits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. I'm not going to bet it,
Speaker 1: but it definitely strikes me as something where Look, I've
Speaker 1: been impressed with Mills just more because I had such
Speaker 1: low expectations for the guy coming in, but there have
Speaker 1: been a lot of times where I've seen him playing games.
Speaker 1: It's not just against the Chargers, but generally speaking.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be So this is kind of annoying for
Speaker 2: draft stuff, but of course this is where my brain goes.
Speaker 2: He was a five star, number one overall QB prospect
Speaker 2: when he came out of high school and he went
Speaker 2: to Stanford and really didn't do anything at Stanford, still
Speaker 2: gets drafted because he has all these great measurables and
Speaker 2: he was a five star and now he's having success
Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's going to make those five star
Speaker 2: guys that don't do a lot in college still draftable
Speaker 2: at the end of the draft. So you know, even
Speaker 2: if Spencer Rattler has a crappy year at South Carolina
Speaker 2: and he's probably still going to get drafted because people
Speaker 2: see the pedigree of these guys, so less for him
Speaker 2: because he's not as tall, but still gonna get drafted.
Speaker 1: Great point by when Cowboys are home link six to
Speaker 1: the Cards, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas here. I think what we
Speaker 2: saw last week from them was just the get right game.
Speaker 2: They needed it too, because Dak had been struggling pretty
Speaker 2: bad for like the last three or four weeks before
Speaker 2: this game. But you know, coming at home against Washington,
Speaker 2: who had been playing pretty well up to that point,
Speaker 2: it all clicked. So they're kind of peaking right now.
Speaker 2: Cardinals are the opposite. They peaked a little bit earlier
Speaker 2: in the season. This is typical Cliff Kingsbury. What you
Speaker 2: see in a game or a season is a second
Speaker 2: half collapse from him because he doesn't adjust. So I
Speaker 2: never have like Cliff Kingsbury as head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think he is skated by on tons and tons
Speaker 2: of talent on this Cardinals roster, which he helped put together.
Speaker 2: So look, guy's got an eye for talent for sure,
Speaker 2: but I just don't trust him to coach up these guys.
Speaker 3: In the and a half against Dallas.
Speaker 2: I think they will make all of the proper adjustments
Speaker 2: and win going away.
Speaker 1: Fading Cliff Kingsbury in the second half of any season
Speaker 1: is almost always profitable our game, and they just look
Speaker 1: lost without Hopkins. They just they look like they've.
Speaker 2: Made or whatever really strong for them when Edmunds went
Speaker 2: down and Hopkins was out, And he's probably not gonna
Speaker 2: play in this game either, So Chase Edmonds is okay,
Speaker 2: but he's not Connor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a game time decision, so he'll probably be
Speaker 1: limited even if he does go. How about again, you said,
Speaker 1: sounded like you weren't positive on it, but sounds like
Speaker 1: you like the Lions if you had to go one
Speaker 1: way getting the seven from the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the covering machines, man, The Lions are one of
Speaker 2: the best teams against the spread in the league this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Packers are better. The Cowboys
Speaker 2: are twelve and three, Packers eleven and four, Colts ten
Speaker 2: and five, Detroit ten and five against the spread. So,
Speaker 2: like I said, I like the over the most in
Speaker 2: this game, but picking against the spread, I will definitely
Speaker 2: take the Lions plus points in pretty much any game
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Fame that felt the same way when Pat again took
Speaker 1: that Seahawks getting six and a half, you know, giving
Speaker 1: six and a half to the Bears, It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't trust the Seahawks at this point to cover you know,
Speaker 1: six and a half against anyone.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the Bears thing for me too.
Speaker 2: It's like these teams are they're probably six points better
Speaker 2: than the team they're playing, but are you gonna bet
Speaker 2: your money on it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Thanks?
Speaker 1: Right? All right? Saints slaying six and a half to
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Eanbook will not be starting in this game.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald will be though for the Panthers. So not
Speaker 1: sure what that does.
Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, Matt Ruhle has messed
Speaker 2: this up, is the nice way to say it.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I think that firing Joe Brady was a mistake. I
Speaker 2: think signing Cam Newton was a mistake. I would have
Speaker 2: stuck with Sam Donald or just gone a p J
Speaker 2: Walker for a year and know these guys aren't my
Speaker 2: answer now. I don't know, Sam Donald might still be
Speaker 2: your answer for next year. So it's a mess there.
Speaker 2: Give me New Orleans. Carolina has packed it in for
Speaker 2: the winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. And last one wrong
Speaker 1: for New Orleans suis Oh yeah for real.
Speaker 2: Ever since Cam Jordan started getting to the quarterback again,
Speaker 2: that defense picked way up.
Speaker 1: So total agreement. Last one, Vikings are visiting the Packers
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. Seven points.
Speaker 2: What do you think Packers win this one going away
Speaker 2: and lock up home field advantage so they can sit
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in his COVID toe next week.
Speaker 1: What gets me a little confused is that the two
Speaker 1: teams realistically aren't quite as different, like in terms of
Speaker 1: how good they are. But like, this is a Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins in primetime game, in time.
Speaker 2: Game, did he throw eighty seven yards and they still
Speaker 2: beat the Packers?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He did not look good. Yeah, And again this
Speaker 1: is the chance for the Packers to just put this
Speaker 1: away and rest. So I'm probably not going near just
Speaker 1: at seven, but if i were to go one way
Speaker 1: or the other, I would probably go there. Bodwin, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having me. It was great to
Speaker 1: have you remind remind everybody of the three bats, by
Speaker 1: the way, that that's what it is, the recapt.
Speaker 2: The the Rams. I'm laying the three and a half
Speaker 2: for them. I got the over in that game of
Speaker 2: forty six and a half against Baltimore as well, and
Speaker 2: then the over forty two and a half in Seattle
Speaker 2: in Detroit, and.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Steelers getting three and a
Speaker 1: half from the Browns, the Titans laying three and a
Speaker 1: half to the Dolphins, and the under forty five and
Speaker 1: a half in the Broncos in the Charters game, though
Speaker 1: I admit that if I had my drothers, I would
Speaker 1: also jump on the Rams and the Ravens over forty
Speaker 1: six and a half. Bob Win, just remind everybody where
Speaker 1: they can find more. Are you and your work?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for having me again, Dan,
Speaker 2: This is this show is a lot of fun and
Speaker 2: you can find me here on Betting Pros. I do
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Speaker 3: Don't know who it is yet because we have those
Speaker 3: games coming up tomorrow. I think it's gonna be Bama
Speaker 3: in George right again.
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Speaker 1: Legitimately, everywhere is where Bagman is, and he does great work.
Speaker 1: And I don't understand how he knows everything about like
Speaker 1: every college football player in the world, considering we're constantly
Speaker 1: this baseball football doesn't matter. The guy's a stud, all right.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me. So that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for this one. We'll be back as always next week
Speaker 1: talking more NFL football. I'll be talking college football, and
Speaker 1: I will talk to you though,