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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by bet MGM. I am your host, Dan Harris.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty.

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Speaker 1: It's week seventeen. It's time to talk about some of

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Speaker 1: our best bets. With me to do that is Scott Bogman.

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Speaker 1: He's the co host of In This League podcast. You

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Speaker 1: know him from the Betting Pros College Football Show and

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Speaker 1: pretty much from everywhere. Find him on Twitter at Bogman Sports. Bogwin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time out of your busy day

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Speaker 1: to pop on this pod. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, man, Thank you for having me. I

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Speaker 2: love talking to anything NFL always so yeah show.

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Speaker 1: And we like talking to each other anyway, just because

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Speaker 1: you know we've been on each other's podcast. It's good time.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun. So long as we pick WINNERDS Bogman,

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Speaker 1: that's all anybody cares about. Trust me. I can tell

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Speaker 3: I know from some of the emails I've got all right.

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Speaker 1: So look usually, by the way, you guys have noticed

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Speaker 1: it was just Christmas and getting people's hard. But right

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Speaker 1: now with the COVID situation, man, like, is one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred guys came off the COVID list today? Yeah, because it's.

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Speaker 1: Getting a little easier obviously because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: But now at this point, Bagman, I think if people

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Speaker 1: We'll do the best we can, wait as long as

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Speaker 1: possible to make your bets as full. Yes, my general recommendation.

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Speaker 1: All right, usual deal, three best bets of the weekend

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly do the recap of last week. Our guest

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Speaker 1: Pat Fitzmorris took an over so you can only go

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Speaker 1: up here bo. Yeah, it was a bad one. He

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Speaker 1: was very upset about it, by the way. The one

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Speaker 1: thing I will say about Pat is Pat takes this

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Speaker 1: to heart more than anybody I know. Like he is

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Speaker 1: like I can help believe it, blah blah blah. But

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Speaker 1: he is a great on the prop bets for sure,

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Speaker 1: and he's he's still been running hot on that, so

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Speaker 3: But he missing the Chargers were one.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers were one. Yes, yes, the.

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Speaker 3: Chargers didn't miss on that. You know, everybody that was bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, anytime you're a double digit spread, though,

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Speaker 1: it always makes me just you know whatever, It makes

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Speaker 1: I missed on the Ravens who were getting three to

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Speaker 3: They didn't lose because of Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. They would have lost regardless of who was

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Speaker 1: even though I did buy out of it, to be fair.

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Speaker 1: Once everything moved, I'm now basically an even twenty four

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Speaker 1: All right, Bogwin, you're our guest. You get to lead

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Speaker 1: it bogwin, start us off anywhere you want. What do

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Speaker 2: Give me the Los Angeles Rams minus three and a

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Speaker 2: reason I like the Rams in this game is number one, desperation.

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Speaker 2: They need wins, right, They need to keep the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: So I just expect the Rams to sit and pick

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Speaker 2: So give me the Rams and I'll lay the points.

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Speaker 1: My hesitation with it, bagman, is don't you think this

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Speaker 1: Locked in right now. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to

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Speaker 1: it's true. And again we Lamar misspractice we're recording this

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Speaker 1: You know the classic Mike Tomlin spots, of course, and

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Speaker 1: Those games are always tight, like, regardless of anything, regardless

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Speaker 1: It will happen. Okay, so it Ben's last game in

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Speaker 1: football with the Steelers. That's not good. But Pittsburgh's thirtieth

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Speaker 1: in defensive DVOA against the run thirty first in defensive

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Speaker 1: love the Browns, Bogman. It really is like I think

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Speaker 1: get them up off that loss. Would you with the hook?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't love it at three, although I'll probably bet

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Speaker 1: that always with a short home dog. But getting the hook, Bogwin,

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Speaker 1: I like it. Talk to me about your team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's they're not good.

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Speaker 2: I'll say, this is one of the worst Steelers teams

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Speaker 3: What you know.

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Speaker 2: The Browns are probably better than the Steelers right now.

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Speaker 2: But you know, all the stuff that you just said,

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Speaker 2: you got to take in consideration. Ben's teammates playing for

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Speaker 2: I never bet the Steelers because I find that to

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Speaker 2: you know, so just it doesn't make any sense sometimes

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Speaker 1: So I'm just going to be shocked, man, I'm going

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Speaker 2: I think if Cleveland wins, they blow the doors off Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: The craziest thing, Bagman, is that both of these teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're both in playoff contention still somehow with

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Speaker 1: I think if the Chiefs beat the Bengals and the

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. If the Browns beat the Bengals next week,

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Speaker 2: The Steelers to win the division, but they can still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, Yeah, the Bargers.

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Speaker 2: except for maybe Miami. Yeah, it's that last seed is

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. I do not expect Miami to win this game,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay in the same game I just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over for the Rams and Ravens

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Speaker 2: like I said, the Rams are going to get most

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Speaker 2: of this. I think the Rams score five touchdowns, so

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Speaker 2: it's thirty five of this forty six and a half

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Speaker 2: even if it's in garbage time. You know, Betting the

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Speaker 2: look at that first half and you go, all right, well,

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Speaker 2: they're not pacing. They're not pacing at all. You know,

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Speaker 2: everybody does this. Everyone who the over goes this pace

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Speaker 2: second half, right, Defenses retired in offenses make adjustments. Right,

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Speaker 2: So then in the third quarter you're like, okay, all right, okay,

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Speaker 2: And in the fourth quarter you're getting closer and closer

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Speaker 2: until you eventually hit it or you know you don't.

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Speaker 2: But in the fourth quarter you have a pretty good idea.

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Speaker 2: But I do I expect the Rams to pick the

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Speaker 2: of this over. And I think both these teams, you know,

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Speaker 2: over unders. Right, the best record for over unders is

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Speaker 2: nine and six this year Philly, the Jets, Minnesota all

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Speaker 2: Rams and lay the points, I like bet on that

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Speaker 2: game this week. Yeah, against the Ravens too. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: Sure, why not just go Ravens every single time? This

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Speaker 1: which I was like, oh, interesting, because usually we're able

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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you what they are, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we don't overlap. And that was oddly enough,

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Speaker 1: the one over under that I had. I agree with

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Speaker 1: going to put up a ton of points. Again, talked

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Speaker 1: about it when you talked about the spread, just the secondary.

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Speaker 1: They're just going to be able to pass all over them.

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Speaker 1: And I do think you're right. I don't expect Lamar

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Speaker 1: out there and you're really, really gimpy and then you're

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Speaker 1: a DNP the next day like that just can't be good.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's better for the Ravens offense then

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Speaker 1: rather than a gimbie Lamar Jackson. So I agree with

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Speaker 1: you over forty six and a half, I will adopt

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Speaker 1: your play. My next pick, bog when is the Titans

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Speaker 1: length three and a half to the Dolphins. This is

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Speaker 1: much more about a fade of the Dolphins. Dolphins streak

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, it's been really remarkable. It's

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Speaker 1: the real I mean in book would look almost ready

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Speaker 1: for like a pee wee football game. But yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was not. It was not close. Yes, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: think about it. It's the Texans, the Jets twice, the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: That game on Thursday was very impressive. With the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: I admit on that one. But you know, they're just

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're a very good football team. Overall,

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Speaker 1: They're fine. Pro Football Reference Bagman has a rating system

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Speaker 1: which shows basically that the Dolphins are two points worse

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Speaker 1: if you gave that credence and you put that together,

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Speaker 1: neutral site. This is a three and a half point

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Speaker 1: spread in Tennessee. I think with AJ Brown back, And

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Speaker 1: put on it, I'm off this game obviously entirely. But

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Speaker 1: obviously Julio make come back now that matters. You saw

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Speaker 1: what AJ Brown can do and I get.

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Speaker 2: Save how good he was a practice in oh, like whatever,

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not starting to Ancient Brown. I'm

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Speaker 2: not brave brave now Fryan tannels like like garbage the

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Speaker 1: Now I mean without without Mosley, Like their secondary is

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Speaker 1: And again we do fantasy as well, and I ranked

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown and when I was like sort of doing

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Speaker 1: my projection, it was like, there's just no way he's

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Speaker 1: was like it was like somebody getting on a heater

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: You were just like all, I'm just going to you,

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Speaker 1: There was nothing they could do about it. And that

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Speaker 1: But I still think that even though they are now

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Speaker 1: Win that one They're still in the air for the

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins, I I don't like that. I definitely took

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Speaker 2: Miami in this game, but I tend to get Tennessee

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Speaker 2: wrong like most weeks because like we said, you know,

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Speaker 2: so they do pull off some weird wins, but then

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins too.

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Speaker 2: I think if Taysom Hill starts that game, I don't

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Speaker 1: Are you impressed by that win over the doll I'm

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Speaker 2: Because the Saints were in it the whole time with

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Speaker 2: all you need to know about Ian Book. Know how

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Speaker 2: sometimes you draft a guy like Danny Etling to turn

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00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 2: him into a wide receiver like the Patriots did, who

431
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 2: play quarterback at LSU, And so I thought, maybe they're

432
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,479
Speaker 2: gonna move in positions. That was my first thought when

433
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 2: he and Book got drafted. Not he's going to start

434
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: a game when they're down to the third string quarterback

435
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 2: ever in the NFL. So them not blowing them out

436
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 2: of the water made me go, Okay, you know, the

437
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 2: offense was really just not great. It's all Jayla Wattle.

438
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 2: That's all they have right now. So yeah, they're screwing

439
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 2: around with those running backs way too much. Stuke Johnson

440
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: and Philip lindsay now because Gascon is coming off the

441
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 2: COVID and all that stuff, I just both these seems

442
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 2: to me are hard to figure out. So yes, I'll

443
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 2: say I'm taking Miami, but it's not with a great

444
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,360
Speaker 2: amount of confidence.

445
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, and again I think everything you're saying is correct.

446
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: The Titans have been a very tough team to figure

447
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: out because again, they were winning all these games. Once

448
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry went out where you were like, you shouldn't

449
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: really be winning these games.

450
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 2: And then they play Pittsburgh and you're like, beat the

451
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 2: crap out of Pittsburgh and they don't win.

452
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: And even by the way, this game against the forty

453
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,479
Speaker 1: nine ers, which I was on the Titans and I

454
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: thought after the first drive, I was like, boy, this

455
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: was a terrible pick and maybe they wouldn't have even

456
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: won if Garoppolo apparently hadn't gotten hurt in that game.

457
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: Like who knows, but they have they they have a way, man,

458
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: they have a way of figuring out this tough and

459
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we like.

460
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 2: A first round out, but they're gonna have Derrick Henry back,

461
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: so that changes a whole landscape of this team, so absolutely.

462
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: And who knows.

463
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: And again, a big part of it really is the

464
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: fade of the Dolphins. Rather than buying the I think

465
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: that I just think this is going to end This ride,

466
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: which has been incredible sort of to watch, is just

467
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: going to end at some point. So that's my second pick.

468
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: How about your third pick?

469
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 2: My third pick, I'm going to roll with the over

470
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 2: in the Seattle and Detroit game.

471
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Speaker 3: It's forty two and a half, so it's low.

472
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, we get a twenty one twenty one game

473
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: and then have a field goal kicked and we're right there.

474
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: The twenty four to twenty one game gets us home,

475
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: and that's what I expected in this game. I don't

476
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: expect it to go way way over, But I do

477
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: think that the Lions are a better offense with Jared

478
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: Goff and instead of Tim Boyle. That's why they only

479
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: put up sixteen points last week. Jared Goff is back,

480
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: it's not great. In fact, the only person worse at

481
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 2: throwing the ball down the field this year then Trevor Lawrence,

482
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: is Jared Goff. But the Seattle defense was bad the

483
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: whole year. Now with Jamal Adams out, it is horrific.

484
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: You just saw the Bearers come back with Nick Foles

485
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: against them in Seattle, and that game.

486
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: Was twenty five twenty four.

487
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 2: So the Lions are a covering machine, but their secondary

488
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: has been beat to crap too. This is another team

489
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: a lot like the Ravens, not necessarily their fault. They've

490
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: had so many guys in the secondary go down. Jerry

491
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: Jacobs I didn't know about before the season started, and

492
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: he started a ton of games for this team. Blowed

493
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: his knee and he's out, so they're down too. Guys

494
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: I've never heard of once again starting for them at

495
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 2: the end of the year because of injuries plus COVID,

496
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 2: plus you know, just being not a great team. So

497
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: I expect Tyler Lockett to go crazy. He's one of

498
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: my DFS picks this week. I think Metcalf could go

499
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: crazy too.

500
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 3: A monor.

501
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: Saint Brown has proven that he is a quarterback proof.

502
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: Seahawks can't can't stop the run to save their life.

503
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: They can't do anything on defense. Man, it's a bad roster.

504
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: So I think that this game is definitely gonna go over.

505
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: I expect the Seahawks to win it, but I don't

506
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: have a ton of confidence in them because the Lions

507
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: are covering machines. So the Lions might win this game

508
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: straight up. But I do love the over because both

509
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: these defenses are poors.

510
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, you make a good case for it.

511
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: And at forty two and a half, you really don't

512
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: need much to go right to go over that game right.

513
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: One going into the fourth to get us a field

514
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: goal to win it, long as it doesn't die.

515
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: And you can see them like you can see the

516
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks basically trying to have a game where just things

517
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: go right in the passing game, just for Russell. Get

518
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: this taste out of their mouth like it has been

519
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: terrible right now.

520
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: And if you got Russ to stay too, you got

521
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: to make it fun for him. You got to make

522
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks and putting up points and

523
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: seeing the silver lining for next year so he doesn't

524
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: demand that trade that he didn't really demand this year

525
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: kind of buddy, did you know whatever it was? So

526
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: you know, if you want him to stay, you gotta

527
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: make it. You gotta make it so he wants to

528
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: So you gotta make him have fun. Put up some

529
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: points with them, let Russ cook as the kids can say, Dan.

530
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I do like that phrase, those those children who

531
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: use it. Yeah, all right, so I'm with you. Actually

532
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I like it. I hadn't considered that game, but that

533
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: that's really not a bad one. So you stole my

534
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: over under for the day with a round. So I'll

535
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: pivot and I'll go with the and I'm gonna consider it.

536
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: I'll go with the under on the Broncos Charters game

537
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: at forty five and a half. And what this this

538
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: really boils down to a couple of days. One is

539
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, who I think, I don't know if he's

540
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: officially been named the starter, but the expectation is that

541
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: he's going to start. And I understand that the charge

542
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: generally speaking, have a porous run defense. So you might

543
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: see Melvin Gordon and Javonte Williams get seventy five. They're

544
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: both limited. And you know that the Chargers defense, it

545
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: depends on the health and stuff like that. They're not

546
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: always the absolute Steve now they were obviously last week,

547
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: but they're not always the absolute, but regardless, they're limited

548
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: in either way. Like, if you are the Chargers, okay, there,

549
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: what is to prevent you from stacking the box up

550
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: the wazoo right now? Because there's just no chance that

551
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: Drew Lock is going to beat you? And there's no

552
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: chance that the Broncos want to allow Drew Lock to

553
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: be the person who decides the game. They're gonna run

554
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: it all day and again, even if they gain yard,

555
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: it's like the more you run the ball, the more

556
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: the clock bleeds. And that's just how it's gonna be necessarily.

557
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: And the Broncos defense is solid. They know the Chargers

558
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: pretty well, so I don't expect the Chargers necessarily to

559
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: go up and put up you know, a thirty spot

560
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: or anything here. But realistically, I think the Broncos with

561
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. I mean, you watch that game against just

562
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: a Raiders defense that should not be able to stop anybody,

563
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't do anything whatsoever. We've seen Lock

564
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: enough here, so it's more of a fate of what

565
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: we're going to see from the Broncos offense necessarily than

566
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers. But I'll I'll lean towards the under here

567
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: at the forty five and a half. Again, if I

568
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: were going to have my pick of the litta, it

569
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: would have been the over forty six and a half

570
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: with that with the Bronx, but I lean under, So.

571
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm right, I'm also taking the under in this game

572
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: because of you know, mainly the points that you just said,

573
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: I how are you trusting Drew Lock, Like I've watched

574
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater all year and I go, God, Drew Lock's

575
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: got to be better than this.

576
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: Watch one game of Drew Lock.

577
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: And I go, absolutely not. He is not.

578
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater is better, and they both are terrible. Like

579
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: this is a team that is a quarterback away. They

580
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: have good weapons and everything, but uh, you know, the

581
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: quarterback ain't there this week. So I'm absolutely with you

582
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: give me the under here because the Chargers are in

583
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: a weird funk right now. Justin Herbert could get a

584
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: lot of this, but the Denver defense is solid. You know,

585
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: I play good ball, so they're gonna limit what the

586
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: Chargers can do on offense. It's not gonna be like

587
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: playing the Texans where Justin Jackson has one hundred and

588
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: eighty yards and a touchdown and all that stuff. So

589
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm with you on the under in this game, mainly

590
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: because I don't trust either offense right now, and I

591
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: do trust Denver's defense, So we're some potico as far

592
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: as that game goes.

593
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: For sure, I.

594
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: Love it all right, Well, recap at the end, but bogwan,

595
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: let's fly through the remaining spreads and just let me

596
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: know if you've got to lean one way or the other. Okay, yep,

597
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Pats are laying sixteen to the Jaguars in New England. Uh.

598
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't scored a touchdown with Trevor Lawrence for

599
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: a month, so give me the Patriots.

600
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: And I agree. I don't ever actually take these giant spreads.

601
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: But man, there's just I don't know what the spread

602
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: would have to be to get me to feel comfortable

603
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: taking the Jaguars in this game. With the Pats off

604
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: a bad loss as well, Ye, try toe of something,

605
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: all right. So we go to another big spread. Next,

606
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: the Bucks laying thirteen to the Jets in New Jersey.

607
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: I'll lay it.

608
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: The Jets have packed up and gone to gotten to

609
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: bed for the winner, so Tampa Bay wins this game.

610
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, Bogman, that all of the big favorites

611
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: are going to cover, But I'm taking a.

612
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: Big versus LA for sure this week, so.

613
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm still taking them though I every everything.

614
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: There's one double digit spread I will not take.

615
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Better not be the Bills against the Falcons, because I

616
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: am taking this. Okay, I'm also with the Bucks here,

617
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: and again we are we both do fantasy rankings. I

618
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: certainly hope for my championship teams that everybody in the

619
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Bucks decides to go nuts in this game and as

620
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: a Jets fan.

621
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: Box are hurt in the champions Ah, Mike Evans Leonard Fournette.

622
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: To me, Yeah, that is bad. But I will say

623
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: that again. You mentioned about, you know, the double whammy

624
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: when you bet you know on your team. Like a

625
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: great thing about being a Jets fan is I can

626
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: almost always confidently bet against the Jets and almost it

627
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: usually works out. Uh, the Raiders, for you.

628
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Would be they win because you lose your money and

629
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: they lose that draft pick. So you know, it slips

630
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: a little further and further every time.

631
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, let me tell you my friend I had

632
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: in a teaser this week because I didn't trust the

633
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: exact spread the Jaguars getting eight and a half, and

634
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: I was like, they're going to cover this spread somehow.

635
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: They're going to do this somehow and win this game.

636
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: Is carverble. They still won, which sucked for me, but

637
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: again I did thankfully when the teaser. But yeah, it's dangerous.

638
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: It's never a fun time. Raiders getting six and a

639
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: half from the Colts. We're assuming Carson Wentz comes back here.

640
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: By the way, I guess you know, with the way

641
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: it is, but what do you think.

642
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't care with the way the Colts defense has

643
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: been playing and the way that the whole offense is

644
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: hand the ball to Jonathan Taylor. And I watched Sam

645
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: Aliger play a lot in college and love him and

646
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: hope he gets a start eventually, but it's going to

647
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: be Carson Wentz. So I think the Colts win this

648
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: one going away.

649
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Eagles are visiting Washington and laying three and a half. Now, bagman,

650
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: this one strikes me as something where the books are

651
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, take the Eagles. Take the Eagles, obviously,

652
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: because we are very confident in that in you doing

653
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: that right, that's what it is.

654
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to springboard into the trap too, because Washington,

655
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: oh you are, yeah, playing that egg it really it's

656
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: for this reason. Ron Rivera and I just I don't

657
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: like it in college, and I despise it in The

658
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: pros said that Heineke's going to start, but Kyle Allen's

659
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: going to get time. Break up that offensive rhythm. I

660
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: don't care who you are, you can't do that in

661
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: a in any game, so especially a home game against

662
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: the division rivals. So you're showing that you have no

663
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: confidence in either one of these guys that were fist

664
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: fighting on the sideline last week. Oh yeah, Washington is

665
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: a sinking ship right now. So give me Philly.

666
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: I know, man, they and the books want you to

667
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: do that, right like they do. Who what normal better

668
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: looks at this line and business, You know what, gimme Washington.

669
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: I feel like nobody is going to do that, and

670
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: they're just laying it out there for it. But you're

671
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: walking into it. Huh.

672
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm walking right into it. And if it snaps me up,

673
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: it snaps me up, I'll take the Bay.

674
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm coming with you. Don't worry about all right? All right?

675
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: All right? Is this the one bogwin Bills at home

676
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: laying fourteen and a half against Falcons.

677
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: No, I'm taking the Bills in this game. They need

678
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: to win.

679
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: They need to keep New England at Bay, Miami at

680
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Bay right now. They need to lock up this division,

681
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: and you got to give this offense and the defense

682
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence moving into towards the playoffs.

683
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: So I think they blow out the Falcons. Another team

684
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: that's just why is coudrel Patterson not on the field

685
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: every snap.

686
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: I don't understand it.

687
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: You know, Kyle Pitts has been okay, they misuse Mike

688
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: Davis the whole year, and he's also not as good

689
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: as he was last year.

690
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: So this team is a big mess.

691
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Right now, specifically on defense, and Josh Allen's going to

692
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: pick him apart totally.

693
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: With you Chiefs playing five to the Bengals in CINCI, I.

694
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: Mean this is mainly I want to see it, so

695
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: I am taking the Chiefs. But also the Chiefs being

696
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: able to adjust their offense to play against certain defenses

697
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: instead of just throw the ball down field has been

698
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: kind of scary to watch this year, and specifically for

699
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: me last week when I was on instagram sending piece

700
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: of p a bunch of reels instead of watching the

701
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: second half of my game because it's just hurt to

702
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: watch every play they were doing something wrong on So

703
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, I think that they go into the jungle

704
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: and we get escalator of sadness leaving it for the Bengals,

705
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: which is something I love. So give me the Chiefs

706
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: and I'll lay the points.

707
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you as well, and it's just it's got

708
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: to be a letdown spot man like for the Bengals

709
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: coming in here off that huge enormous win over the Ravens.

710
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: I just I agree. I think the Chiefs come in,

711
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: I think they win handily. Giants are visiting the Bears.

712
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Bears are laying six points.

713
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I hate this game. I don't have a

714
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: lean either way.

715
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: I'll take the Giants because I don't trust the Bears

716
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: to beat anybody by six. But this is a which

717
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: coach gets fired first ball. As far as I'm concerned,

718
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: I hope it's Joe Judge. I hate this Jake from

719
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: and Mike Glennon nonsense. I hate that he hasn't used

720
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley properly. You signed Kenny Galladay, give him no

721
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: confidence moving forward. You have good offensive weapons and they're

722
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: all terrible this year. So I think I like Joe

723
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: Judge less than I. If I had to pick one

724
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: to be head coach of my team, I picked Naggy

725
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: all day, every day over Joe Judge.

726
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: But I don't trust the bearst be anybody by that

727
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: many points.

728
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: So give me the Giants, bagman. If you gave me

729
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: your money and said please bet on this game, I

730
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: would still decline because I just have absolutely like I

731
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: can't even imagine. I don't want to watch it. I

732
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: don't want to bet on it. I have no idea

733
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Like it's like the first game the

734
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: whole year where I'm like, holy cow, please just let

735
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: me get know. It's not gonna be the game.

736
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: Where they go to it on the red zone. I'm like, ugh,

737
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: go to anything else.

738
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Literally, any other game show me or replay.

739
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: How about that, show me Jags. I'd rather watch the

740
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: Jags in this.

741
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Let's go. The Chargers, as we talked about, are at home.

742
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: They're laying six and a half here to the Broncos.

743
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: How about the spread.

744
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 2: I'd taken the Chargers because they're at home and they

745
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: just got embarrassed. They have to win, so I'm taking them,

746
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 2: and Drew Lock sucks. I mean that's, you know, not

747
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: with confidence, but I will take them.

748
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: I agree, I would take them as well. Again, I

749
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: just can't like it was really I felt discussing backing

750
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders last week, but I was like, I don't care.

751
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: It's true, Locke, It's a very easy formula and it

752
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: did work out. Is this the spread Bogwin. The forty

753
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: nine Ers laying twelve and a half to the Texans.

754
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: Is the one that's the one right there, and it's

755
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: because I just don't trust you know, it seems like

756
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 2: Trey Lance is going to start this game and I

757
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: just don't trust them. And look, Houston is playing decent football.

758
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and tell you they're

759
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: playing good football because they're not. But they're playing decent

760
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: football right now, which is not something I expected to

761
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: say into a microphone after watching them for the first

762
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: month of the season.

763
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: They have been terrible.

764
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: But you know, Culley's got these guys playing at least hard,

765
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: and Mills is going to be their answer next year too.

766
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: So let's get Nico Collins involve. Brandon Cooks is fine.

767
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Rex Burkhead had a huge game last week too, right,

768
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: So it's if this was Jimmy g at full health,

769
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I would take the Niners and lay the points. But

770
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: it's Trey Lance, and I just don't know what to

771
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: expect from him. I would expect him to be better,

772
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: but I would be shocked if he was worse. You know,

773
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: he's running scout team this whole time, So give me

774
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Houston in this game without.

775
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: A ton of confidence.

776
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: I just don't think the Niners with Tree Lance can

777
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: be in anybody by double digits.

778
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. I'm not going to bet it,

779
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: but it definitely strikes me as something where Look, I've

780
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: been impressed with Mills just more because I had such

781
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: low expectations for the guy coming in, but there have

782
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: been a lot of times where I've seen him playing games.

783
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: It's not just against the Chargers, but generally speaking.

784
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna be So this is kind of annoying for

785
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: draft stuff, but of course this is where my brain goes.

786
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: He was a five star, number one overall QB prospect

787
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: when he came out of high school and he went

788
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: to Stanford and really didn't do anything at Stanford, still

789
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: gets drafted because he has all these great measurables and

790
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: he was a five star and now he's having success

791
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's going to make those five star

792
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: guys that don't do a lot in college still draftable

793
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 2: at the end of the draft. So you know, even

794
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: if Spencer Rattler has a crappy year at South Carolina

795
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: and he's probably still going to get drafted because people

796
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: see the pedigree of these guys, so less for him

797
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: because he's not as tall, but still gonna get drafted.

798
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: Great point by when Cowboys are home link six to

799
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: the Cards, what do you think?

800
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas here. I think what we

801
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: saw last week from them was just the get right game.

802
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: They needed it too, because Dak had been struggling pretty

803
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: bad for like the last three or four weeks before

804
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: this game. But you know, coming at home against Washington,

805
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: who had been playing pretty well up to that point,

806
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: it all clicked. So they're kind of peaking right now.

807
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: Cardinals are the opposite. They peaked a little bit earlier

808
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: in the season. This is typical Cliff Kingsbury. What you

809
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: see in a game or a season is a second

810
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: half collapse from him because he doesn't adjust. So I

811
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: never have like Cliff Kingsbury as head coach in the NFL.

812
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: I think he is skated by on tons and tons

813
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: of talent on this Cardinals roster, which he helped put together.

814
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: So look, guy's got an eye for talent for sure,

815
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: but I just don't trust him to coach up these guys.

816
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: In the and a half against Dallas.

817
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: I think they will make all of the proper adjustments

818
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 2: and win going away.

819
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Fading Cliff Kingsbury in the second half of any season

820
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: is almost always profitable our game, and they just look

821
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: lost without Hopkins. They just they look like they've.

822
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Made or whatever really strong for them when Edmunds went

823
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: down and Hopkins was out, And he's probably not gonna

824
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: play in this game either, So Chase Edmonds is okay,

825
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: but he's not Connor.

826
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a game time decision, so he'll probably be

827
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: limited even if he does go. How about again, you said,

828
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: sounded like you weren't positive on it, but sounds like

829
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: you like the Lions if you had to go one

830
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: way getting the seven from the Seahawks.

831
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the covering machines, man, The Lions are one of

832
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: the best teams against the spread in the league this year.

833
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Packers are better. The Cowboys

834
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: are twelve and three, Packers eleven and four, Colts ten

835
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: and five, Detroit ten and five against the spread. So,

836
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: like I said, I like the over the most in

837
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: this game, but picking against the spread, I will definitely

838
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: take the Lions plus points in pretty much any game

839
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: right now.

840
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: Fame that felt the same way when Pat again took

841
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: that Seahawks getting six and a half, you know, giving

842
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: six and a half to the Bears, It's like, I

843
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: don't trust the Seahawks at this point to cover you know,

844
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: six and a half against anyone.

845
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: It's kind of the Bears thing for me too.

846
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: It's like these teams are they're probably six points better

847
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: than the team they're playing, but are you gonna bet

848
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: your money on it?

849
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: No?

850
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: Thanks?

851
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: Right? All right? Saints slaying six and a half to

852
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Eanbook will not be starting in this game.

853
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Sam Donald will be though for the Panthers. So not

854
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: sure what that does.

855
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, Matt Ruhle has messed

856
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: this up, is the nice way to say it.

857
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: So.

858
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: I think that firing Joe Brady was a mistake. I

859
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: think signing Cam Newton was a mistake. I would have

860
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: stuck with Sam Donald or just gone a p J

861
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: Walker for a year and know these guys aren't my

862
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: answer now. I don't know, Sam Donald might still be

863
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: your answer for next year. So it's a mess there.

864
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Speaker 2: Give me New Orleans. Carolina has packed it in for

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Speaker 2: the winner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. And last one wrong

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Speaker 1: for New Orleans suis Oh yeah for real.

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Speaker 2: Ever since Cam Jordan started getting to the quarterback again,

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Speaker 2: that defense picked way up.

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Speaker 1: So total agreement. Last one, Vikings are visiting the Packers

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. Seven points.

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Speaker 2: What do you think Packers win this one going away

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Speaker 2: and lock up home field advantage so they can sit

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in his COVID toe next week.

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Speaker 1: What gets me a little confused is that the two

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Speaker 1: teams realistically aren't quite as different, like in terms of

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Speaker 1: how good they are. But like, this is a Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins in primetime game, in time.

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Speaker 2: Game, did he throw eighty seven yards and they still

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Speaker 2: beat the Packers?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He did not look good. Yeah, And again this

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Speaker 1: is the chance for the Packers to just put this

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Speaker 1: away and rest. So I'm probably not going near just

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Speaker 1: at seven, but if i were to go one way

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Speaker 1: or the other, I would probably go there. Bodwin, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. It was great to

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Speaker 1: have you remind remind everybody of the three bats, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that that's what it is, the recapt.

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Speaker 2: The the Rams. I'm laying the three and a half

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Speaker 2: for them. I got the over in that game of

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Speaker 2: forty six and a half against Baltimore as well, and

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Speaker 2: then the over forty two and a half in Seattle

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Speaker 2: in Detroit, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Steelers getting three and a

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Speaker 1: half from the Browns, the Titans laying three and a

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Speaker 1: half to the Dolphins, and the under forty five and

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Speaker 1: a half in the Broncos in the Charters game, though

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Speaker 1: I admit that if I had my drothers, I would

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Speaker 1: also jump on the Rams and the Ravens over forty

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Speaker 1: six and a half. Bob Win, just remind everybody where

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Speaker 1: they can find more. Are you and your work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for having me again, Dan,

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Speaker 2: This is this show is a lot of fun and

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Speaker 2: you can find me here on Betting Pros. I do

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Speaker 2: the college Football betting show with Joe Pizzapia and we'll

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Speaker 2: be back to the National Championship game next week.

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Speaker 3: Don't know who it is yet because we have those

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Speaker 3: games coming up tomorrow. I think it's gonna be Bama

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Speaker 3: in George right again.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, but you could catch me there obviously. I

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Speaker 2: do the I did the IDP show with him this

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Speaker 2: year as well. For Fantasy Pros. I do all my

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Speaker 2: stuff at in this league. I have the Individual Defensive

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Speaker 2: podcast there. I have Fantasy Football with Chris Well, Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Baseball Chris Welsh. He has Prospect One. I do a

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Speaker 2: DFS for Line Star as well. So see if be

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Speaker 2: winning edge with my buddy Nick Allen, I am. You

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Speaker 2: can hear my voice a lot if you like it.

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Speaker 2: It's all over the place. So if you like sports

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Speaker 2: in my voice, it's available for you, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Legitimately, everywhere is where Bagman is, and he does great work.

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Speaker 1: And I don't understand how he knows everything about like

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Speaker 1: every college football player in the world, considering we're constantly

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Speaker 1: this baseball football doesn't matter. The guy's a stud, all right.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me. So that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for this one. We'll be back as always next week

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Speaker 1: talking more NFL football. I'll be talking college football, and

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you though,