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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline.

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Speaker 1: And Caroline since we're talking about bed wedding obligatory embarrassing

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Speaker 1: story from childhood moment, Uh yeah, I mean I am

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Speaker 1: sure that it's a very small child Maybe I went

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Speaker 1: I actively made the decision to do it. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was up with that, but I

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Speaker 1: remember thinking, other kids do it. It's a thing that

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Speaker 1: the That is my favorite example of childhood peer pressure.

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Speaker 1: I've ever heard what other kids in the bed, I'm

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure listeners out there who are eating lunch

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Speaker 1: there is a bed wedding treatment that they write about,

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Speaker 1: which is a vegetable and a mineral salt in a

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Speaker 1: to bed. Now, in my experience, that just causes people

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Speaker 1: coming by the way, from the book Stop Washing the Sheets,

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Speaker 1: How to Cure Your Child's Bed Wedding by Lane M. Robson.

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Speaker 1: And Robson notes that in nineteen o four a German physician, Dr. Foundler,

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Speaker 1: Um and Caroline, you mentioned that the International Children's Continent

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Speaker 1: in neuiss in general were more likely to view bed

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Speaker 1: wedding as more difficult for children to handle. So it

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we as adults are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: to wet the bed. I've got to change by Thomas

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Speaker 1: it's really not usually a sign, like you said, of

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Speaker 1: egg thing, which came first, is it the behavioral problems?

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Speaker 1: Is it stressed on the parents and who that might

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Speaker 1: my kid is acting, because that's how this study was formatted.

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Speaker 1: And maybe again it's that feeling of being out of

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Speaker 1: be causing it. And um, yeah, because I did I

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Speaker 1: was expecting when we went into researching this episode that

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Speaker 1: underpinnings of it and may be linked to negative behavioral

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Speaker 1: patterns and stress and stuff. And really it was a

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Speaker 1: lot more just focused on physiology r right, like actual

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Speaker 1: physical issues causing it. Yeah. Well, so now that we've

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Speaker 1: we've hopefully enlighten you that there's really nothing mentally wrong

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Speaker 1: with your child and emotionally wrong, that it probably is

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Speaker 1: just a normal is theological issue that they will grow

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Speaker 1: out of and don't forget about genetics, and that you

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Speaker 1: probably made your child with the bed thanks to your jeans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we want to hear from parents and and did you

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Speaker 1: wet the bed? And for for our elementary school listeners,

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Speaker 1: are yeah? Are yeah stressed out about it? Yeah? Perhaps

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Speaker 1: this seems like not the most pleasant of topics that

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Speaker 1: given how common is I know, I know their parents

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Speaker 1: out there who have some stories to share. So right

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Speaker 1: to us. Mom Stuff a discovery dot com is where

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Speaker 1: and be sure to like us while you're at it, uh,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to a couple of the letters

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Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And now back to

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Speaker 1: our letters. And we've heard so much from everyone, still

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Speaker 1: hearing from folks about our episode on fit Spo slash

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Speaker 1: fit Spiration because uh, it was more of a controversial

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Speaker 1: topic than I was anticipating. And we've got one here

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Speaker 1: from Maddie and I don't she had a really balanced

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Speaker 1: response to the whole thing. She said. I had heard

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Speaker 1: about fins bow long before and was disgusted, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize how similar fit spos were until I stumbled

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Speaker 1: upon them. I found many tumbler blogs dedicated to the

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Speaker 1: subject and had never been so motivated in my life.

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Speaker 1: It was just what I needed to start my fitness journey.

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Speaker 1: I agree with what Kristen said about it being se

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Speaker 1: thins bo, but I would like to point out that

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Speaker 1: many blogs promoting unhealthy eating and body images like to

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Speaker 1: claim to be fit sposed. True Fitspiration acknowledges that thigh

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Speaker 1: gaps are unrealistic and encourage everyone to love their body,

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Speaker 1: no matter the size or shape. I agree that some

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Speaker 1: bloggers go to the extremes that lead to occessions that

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Speaker 1: do more harm than good. But I know for me

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Speaker 1: and many others, fitzpos a way to stay motivated and

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Speaker 1: share our progress. I personally have always been extremely out

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Speaker 1: of shape and overweight, which caused me to feel terrible

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Speaker 1: about myself. Fits bo blogs have taught me how to

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Speaker 1: be confident and love myself, as well as allowing me

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Speaker 1: to discover all the awesome things my body is capable

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Speaker 1: of doing. I advise listeners to do their research and

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Speaker 1: do not believe everything they read on a fit spoke page.

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Speaker 1: I would also say be realistic with your lifestyle. Although

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Speaker 1: diet and exercise is important, it should not be what

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Speaker 1: your world revolves around. So thanks Maddie. I think that's

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Speaker 1: some great insight there. Okay, I have a message here

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Speaker 1: from Jessica. She write to us on Facebook. She says,

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Speaker 1: hey Lighties, Hey Jessica. He girl. I love the podcast

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Speaker 1: and was particularly moved by the fit spot podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: a smallish person five four and twenty five pounds, but

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Speaker 1: it felt the need to start exercising to get healthy,

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Speaker 1: especially heart healthy, and moving around is just playing good

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Speaker 1: for you. However, like Caroline stated, when I look around

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Speaker 1: for workouts their various inspiration online, I end up feeling

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Speaker 1: awful about myself. This has been extremely frustrating, since I

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Speaker 1: want to have a healthy part. Also added pressure of

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Speaker 1: my family being extremely fit and sometimes judgmental. My father

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Speaker 1: and mother power walks like it's nobody's business. Of others

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Speaker 1: is very frustrating. Anyways, I am working on positive thinking

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Speaker 1: roommate who is very positive and fun. So that's great, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: I my roommate, Jude, roommate is a huge run runs

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Speaker 1: he is too fast for me to pep up. But

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Speaker 1: I have been on the elliptical a couple of times

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Speaker 1: a week, which is good, and I am considering joining

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Speaker 1: a gym to do kickbox thing nice because I'm angry.

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Speaker 1: I just want to take it out on a bag

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Speaker 1: as long as I don't walk into King Looks and Class.

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Speaker 1: There's like a photo of meal on the bag. I

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Speaker 1: highly encourage you. Now it's just a picture of Atlanta

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