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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Norri with you.
Speaker 2: Laun Strickler back with us, forty and researcher, author publisher
Speaker 2: of the syndicated Phantoms and Monsters blog. He began that
Speaker 2: blog in two thousand and five, which has grown steadily
Speaker 2: in popularity and has read daily by tens of thousands
Speaker 2: of enthusiasts, investigators in those seeking the truth. A couple
Speaker 2: of his books include Alien Disclosure, Mothman Dynasty, Phantoms and Monsters,
Speaker 2: Phantom and Monsters, Mysterious Encounters and Unexplained Encounters, as well
Speaker 2: Lon welcome back.
Speaker 3: Have you been hey, George, great to be with you.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, that's great, It's great. How did you get
Speaker 2: started into the fourteen lifestyle?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I tell you this really started when
Speaker 3: I was very young. I had an encounter at Gettysburg.
Speaker 3: I actually grew up very near the battlefield. That was
Speaker 3: about nine or ten. I used to drive riding my
Speaker 3: bike out there. I was a big battlefield. Nerd into
Speaker 3: the battle itself and I I had some type of
Speaker 3: incident to where it seemed like a large TV screen
Speaker 3: opened up in front of me and I was in
Speaker 3: the battle for about thirty seconds. And that's kind of
Speaker 3: where it all started at, and it's kind of rebuilt
Speaker 3: itself since then. And then when I had a big
Speaker 3: foot encounter in nineteen eighty one and a wing kuminoid
Speaker 3: encounter in nineteen eighty eight, that kind of got me
Speaker 3: on the road to the cryptid sightings and every little
Speaker 3: thing associated with the supernatural.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of these cases in just a
Speaker 2: moment line that's truly fantastic. But do you think and
Speaker 2: believe that most of the things that people are seeing,
Speaker 2: whether they be cryptids, UFOs, whatever, really happening?
Speaker 3: Oh? I do, I really do. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people question it, but you know,
Speaker 3: I've had encounters myself, you know, And when you talk
Speaker 3: to so many people every day and you hear them
Speaker 3: describe what they encountered or what they experienced, you kind
Speaker 3: of knew they at least they think they saw something,
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think this. I think these things really
Speaker 3: do happen.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Chicago Lake, Michigan wing humanoid updates.
Speaker 2: What's going on there?
Speaker 3: Well, it's continuing on it's like the cryptid that keeps
Speaker 3: on giving. You know. This all started back in twenty
Speaker 3: eleven when there were three sightings in South Chicago within
Speaker 3: a three month period and they were all three reported
Speaker 3: to move fine, but you know, the wasn't a whole
Speaker 3: lot done about it, and at the time we weren't
Speaker 3: really doing the investigation either because we didn't have that
Speaker 3: much information other than what was reported to move On.
Speaker 3: But as time went on, they would get a case
Speaker 3: here and there. But in the spring of two thy
Speaker 3: seventeen is like the lid blue off and we started
Speaker 3: getting sightings all over the city and in the suburbs.
Speaker 3: And twenty seventeen we had about fifty five sightings that
Speaker 3: were reported Geez to move on. And then eventually, when
Speaker 3: move On didn't you know, follow up on the cases,
Speaker 3: people were contacting us and some of my investigators and
Speaker 3: we picked up on it. And that's where we're at.
Speaker 3: We continue to get them.
Speaker 2: These are all from the Chicago.
Speaker 3: Area, well i'd say eighty percent or within the Chicago
Speaker 3: metro Chicago Land area. Then we do take sightings within
Speaker 3: a two hundred mile radius of the city. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a regional thing, but most of the sightings have
Speaker 3: been in Chicago Land.
Speaker 2: What are people describing lot.
Speaker 3: Well, for the most part, these are five and a
Speaker 3: half to six foot. Sometimes they're larger, very dark in color.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they're kind of shiny looking, or sometimes they're wet looking.
Speaker 3: They have a wingspan of anywhere from twelve to fifteen foot.
Speaker 3: The wing structure is like that of a bat or gargoyle,
Speaker 3: a very small head, and many times they have red eyes.
Speaker 2: Well, like those scary little panthers you've heard about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, the red eyes kind of kind
Speaker 3: of did it in. You know, everybody was trying to
Speaker 3: compare it to the Mothman of Point Pleasant And you know,
Speaker 3: when we first started getting the sightings, I was calling
Speaker 3: it the Chicago Phantom, but of course the media got
Speaker 3: a hold of it and they started comparing it to
Speaker 3: the Mothman. Yeah, so, in other words, to keep it
Speaker 3: from you know, confusing people, we went ahead with the
Speaker 3: Mothman moniker and uh, yeah, so that's where we're at.
Speaker 3: But there's all kinds of variations, a lot of the
Speaker 3: settings out of the hair. The people out there who
Speaker 3: are actually working out there calling it your hair a batman. Uh,
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of different connoctations of this being, but
Speaker 3: all in all, it's the same thing we think.
Speaker 2: And does it look like a human being? His face?
Speaker 3: Its face, not necessarily the face. Most of the time
Speaker 3: it's just the eyes that people describe. They don't really
Speaker 3: seem to be much feature on the face other than
Speaker 3: it's a smaller head. Sometimes it has like a ray
Speaker 3: coming off the back of it. But the body shape
Speaker 3: is that of a human or humanoid, So that's why
Speaker 3: we call it a wing guminoid.
Speaker 2: And what are the look like on.
Speaker 3: For the most part, there are bat like membrane wings
Speaker 3: with a twelve to fifteen foot wingspand and you know,
Speaker 3: we have had a few that have mentioned that they
Speaker 3: look like in the sectoid wing or even that of
Speaker 3: an owl, but very few. Most of the times it's
Speaker 3: the it's the membrane type wing.
Speaker 2: Well, how are people describing it as it zooms by?
Speaker 3: Well, many times when they do see it flying, they
Speaker 3: the one thing they do mention is that it seems
Speaker 3: to be able to propel without flapping its wings, like
Speaker 3: some type of supernatural propulsion to it. Occasionally people will
Speaker 3: see it flapping its wings and many times it's very fast,
Speaker 3: very fleeting sighting to the point where they can't even
Speaker 3: get to grab a phone and take a photograph of it.
Speaker 3: But they're quick sightings for the most part. Sometimes they
Speaker 3: even disappear.
Speaker 2: Wow, and the wings is what's the spanned like like
Speaker 2: like a human length or something.
Speaker 3: Oh, the wingspans anywhere from twelve to fifteen foot.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good size.
Speaker 3: It's a large wing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a cessna almost.
Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, it's large.
Speaker 2: Does it zoom down on people or what does it do?
Speaker 3: Occasionally? For the most part, it seems to they're not shy.
Speaker 3: They seem to fly close enough to where people can
Speaker 3: see them. We've even had witnesses state that they've seen
Speaker 3: the thing fly past them and look back just to
Speaker 3: see if there's people are looking at it. So it's
Speaker 3: very u you know, it keeps us you know, it's
Speaker 3: not really hiding from anybody, but it's very quick and
Speaker 3: when they realize they're seen, they're gone.
Speaker 2: Has anybody described its feet or claws or anything like
Speaker 2: that line.
Speaker 3: The feet for the most part, are very small. Many
Speaker 3: times when people see them suspended in the air, and
Speaker 3: they do see them suspended, the hoverings sometimes that the
Speaker 3: legs seem to vibrate, but the feet are very small
Speaker 3: and the arms. It can be either attached to the
Speaker 3: wing or separate from the wing. We've had both descriptions.
Speaker 2: Is the creature clothed at all or any kind of uniform.
Speaker 3: No, not that we can tell. They're usually always very
Speaker 3: dark in color. Sometimes it is matt looking, or sometimes
Speaker 3: it looks shiny like it's wet.
Speaker 2: And of course, a lot of sightings happen there or
Speaker 2: here International Airport, don't they.
Speaker 3: We have had a large amount of sightings in and
Speaker 3: round of hair. Yes.
Speaker 2: What about UFO activity, There.
Speaker 3: Has been some UFO activity associated with well off hand,
Speaker 3: I can think of three sightings where a UFO has
Speaker 3: been seen near the time it's sighted or just after.
Speaker 2: What does your gut tell you on.
Speaker 3: Well as to what it is? Yeah, I think they're
Speaker 3: interdimensional beams indiensial Okay, I don't think they live on
Speaker 3: this Earth plane. I think they live in a linear
Speaker 3: dimension of sun type. They seem to be able to
Speaker 3: move in and out very quickly, and for the most part,
Speaker 3: I think myself and our investigators believe that they has
Speaker 3: specific portals that they move in and out of, especially
Speaker 3: at O'Hara.
Speaker 2: Do they simply disappear as opposed to fly away into oblivion?
Speaker 3: Well, most people see them fly away so quick that
Speaker 3: they don't know, you know, that they're up into the sky.
Speaker 3: Manytime it's the night, they can't see it. But we
Speaker 3: have had some sightings when people have mentioned that it
Speaker 3: just suddenly disappears like it's going through an invisible doorway.
Speaker 2: Any sound coming from them.
Speaker 3: Many time there's a very shrill, shrieking sound. Sometimes there's
Speaker 3: a clicking sound associated with.
Speaker 2: It, like a scream, a scream sound.
Speaker 3: A screaming sound. Yes, wow, could.
Speaker 2: You imagine that at night you're walking down the streets
Speaker 2: and this thing comes zooming by you, like a twelve
Speaker 2: to fifteen foot bats or something.
Speaker 3: Well, you know it's it does shock people, It really does.
Speaker 3: I mean to the point where, you know, if they
Speaker 3: haven't heard about the sightings and they do experience, they're
Speaker 3: on the internet looking right away. And fortunately many of
Speaker 3: them do find us because we're you know, we're been
Speaker 3: reporting this phenomenon now for a while, and then they
Speaker 3: contact us. We a lot of times the sightings are
Speaker 3: reported right after the incident.
Speaker 2: Has anybody ever been reportedly taken by one of these entities.
Speaker 3: No physical contacts so far, and you know, if they
Speaker 3: had been taken, well, they didn't come back because they
Speaker 3: hadn't reported to this.
Speaker 2: And nobody's told you here, I'm missing my uncle or
Speaker 2: anything like that. How about old hair employees, what do
Speaker 2: they report?
Speaker 3: Well, the uh, those reports that we have gotten from
Speaker 3: O'Hara employees have been somewhat dramatic. We've even had some
Speaker 3: of the firemen out there contact us. Most of the
Speaker 3: employees who do contact us are cargo workers who see
Speaker 3: them at night when they're loading and then loading planes.
Speaker 3: Had a couple of pilots, and we've had a couple
Speaker 3: of air traffic controllers as well. So yeah, it's something
Speaker 3: they don't expect to seem But for the most part,
Speaker 3: the workers at O'Hara know about the sightings.
Speaker 2: Now you've got another creature or entity that you say,
Speaker 2: not dear sightings. What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Well, this not dear phenomenous something that's kind of raised
Speaker 3: its ugly head in the past decade or so. It
Speaker 3: mostly started in the Appalachian Mountains.
Speaker 2: So it's relatively new.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhat unless people just hadn't been reporting it. But
Speaker 3: it's it's being cited now throughout North America, and people
Speaker 3: describe these things as having characteristics that just don't look
Speaker 3: like regular deer. Forward setting eyes, many times, had irregular legs.
Speaker 3: Some people say that, you know, well, you know, it's
Speaker 3: got to be chronic wasting disease or something, but that's
Speaker 3: just not what people describe to us. It's a deer.
Speaker 3: Many times, it's much larger than a regular deer. It's
Speaker 3: many times people see them standing on back legs and
Speaker 3: moving about and walking just like a human would walk.
Speaker 3: There's all kinds of different different descriptions, but they're just
Speaker 3: not normal deer.
Speaker 2: And they're not bigfoot, No they're not. That's another story
Speaker 2: which we'll get into, I'm sure. But hey, do they
Speaker 2: scare people? What do they do?
Speaker 3: Well? They shock people for the most part. They have antlers,
Speaker 3: some of them, some of them do, and most many
Speaker 3: times they are they are male deer their bucks. But uh,
Speaker 3: we've had a few dough that have been mentioned like
Speaker 3: that as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: These creatures. Do they have the ability does a normal
Speaker 2: deer have the ability to walk on it hind legs?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think they I think when when they're fighting, or
Speaker 3: if they're trying to reach for something, they can for
Speaker 3: a short period of time go up in their back legs.
Speaker 3: But these these not deer. Is this this is what
Speaker 3: we call them. Many times they see these things walking
Speaker 3: on the back legs at a pretty decent distance in
Speaker 3: a deer body though, but a deer body.
Speaker 2: The deer type shaped pointed head.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. It's very strange. I personally haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: It's it's somewhat rare, but it does show up once
Speaker 3: in a while, and these witnesses they're pretty forthcoming about it,
Speaker 3: and it's just something you know, many times hunters see
Speaker 3: them and they're just thrown back by what they're looking at.
Speaker 2: Well with Lon Strickler, of course, and his blog website
Speaker 2: is Phantomandmonsters dot com. That's how they can get to
Speaker 2: your blog.
Speaker 3: Absolutely excellent.
Speaker 2: And I have another one called Cryptidhunters dot org.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my team website. Fans of Monster's fourteen research team.
Speaker 2: How many people on your team?
Speaker 3: Wow? We got about twenty boots of the ground investigators
Speaker 3: now about thirty five affiliate groups. So you know, when
Speaker 3: we do get a case and we do try to
Speaker 3: get someone to go to the location and actually talk
Speaker 3: in person to the witness and we've been pretty successful
Speaker 3: at that. It's been very good. But many times we
Speaker 3: do try to get someone there to talk to the witnesses.
Speaker 2: Where will you go anywhere?
Speaker 3: We'll go anywhere we can get to.
Speaker 2: Now, do people fund this or how do you spend
Speaker 2: this out of your own pocket?
Speaker 3: Well, just like most investigators, we kind of we kind
Speaker 3: of fund our own investigations. You know, we're not beyond
Speaker 3: taking donations from folks. But yeah, I mean it's a
Speaker 3: labor of love, and you know, I've been doing this
Speaker 3: now for a well over forty years and it's kind
Speaker 3: of self funded.
Speaker 2: In a few minutes before the break line, tell us
Speaker 2: about the Cecil County, Maryland investigation at a horse farm.
Speaker 3: Fairly new investigation. We've been involved with it. It's not
Speaker 3: too far from myself and two of my other investigators.
Speaker 3: We live in south central Pennsylvania. This is in Season County, Maryland,
Speaker 3: which is on the eastern side of Susquehanna River, and
Speaker 3: it's a horse forum where we got some we got
Speaker 3: a report of UFO activity as well as cryptid activity,
Speaker 3: and we have been down there and We have done
Speaker 3: investigations for going back very soon to follow up on
Speaker 3: some things. But there's been some pretty overwhelming UFO activity,
Speaker 3: which we we do have. We do have video of,
Speaker 3: as well as some pretty substantial footprints of either a
Speaker 3: bigfoot or possibly a cryptied canine.
Speaker 2: Any reports of these horses being hurt or anything like that.
Speaker 3: No, Fortunately they have let you know they have not
Speaker 3: bothered the horses, though the owner has told us that
Speaker 3: the horses do seem to know when it's around and
Speaker 3: they do somewhat react to it.
Speaker 2: So far, we've talked about a number of different and
Speaker 2: strange creatures one and not one case of somebody being
Speaker 2: heard or injured. Is that unusual?
Speaker 3: No, it's not unusual. Very very rarely is somebody attacked.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Many times. People are
Speaker 3: frightened and very scared try to get away from whatever
Speaker 3: it is they're seeing, but as far as actual physical
Speaker 3: contact or injury, very rare.
Speaker 2: We're talking with Lon Strickler about cryptids and strange creatures.
Speaker 2: Will take your calls with him next hour here on
Speaker 2: Coast to Coast. If you've seen any of these creatures,
Speaker 2: definitely share your story or ask him a question or two.
Speaker 2: But what do you recommend people do if they see
Speaker 2: a creature?
Speaker 1: One?
Speaker 2: What do they do?
Speaker 3: Well, try to document as much information, you know, as
Speaker 3: what they're seeing. I would say, actually after the incident,
Speaker 3: after the encounter to you know, go and write down
Speaker 3: everything they possibly can. Then try to contact an investigator. Now,
Speaker 3: try to contact us. We'll definitely take it, and that's
Speaker 3: any type of unexplained encounter, but try to make notes
Speaker 3: and try to be as thorough as possible when you're
Speaker 3: making the description.
Speaker 2: Have you seen any great pictures?
Speaker 3: Okay, we do get some interesting photographs.
Speaker 2: Yes, what has been the most fascinating one you've seen? Oh?
Speaker 3: I guess mostly some of the UFO activity for the
Speaker 3: most part. Occasionally we'll get a something that's supposed to
Speaker 3: be a big photo, some type of upright canine. But
Speaker 3: for the most part, they're very indiscriminate, very hard to
Speaker 3: make out. And I guess most investigators will tell you
Speaker 3: that UFO active is a little different because it usually
Speaker 3: stays around a longer period of time and you can
Speaker 3: get a better look at it.
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