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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Norri with you.

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Speaker 2: Laun Strickler back with us, forty and researcher, author publisher

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Speaker 2: of the syndicated Phantoms and Monsters blog. He began that

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Speaker 2: blog in two thousand and five, which has grown steadily

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Speaker 2: in popularity and has read daily by tens of thousands

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Speaker 2: of enthusiasts, investigators in those seeking the truth. A couple

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Speaker 2: of his books include Alien Disclosure, Mothman Dynasty, Phantoms and Monsters,

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Speaker 2: Phantom and Monsters, Mysterious Encounters and Unexplained Encounters, as well

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Speaker 2: Lon welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Have you been hey, George, great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, that's great, It's great. How did you get

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Speaker 2: started into the fourteen lifestyle?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I tell you this really started when

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Speaker 3: I was very young. I had an encounter at Gettysburg.

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Speaker 3: I actually grew up very near the battlefield. That was

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Speaker 3: about nine or ten. I used to drive riding my

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Speaker 3: bike out there. I was a big battlefield. Nerd into

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Speaker 3: the battle itself and I I had some type of

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Speaker 3: incident to where it seemed like a large TV screen

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Speaker 3: opened up in front of me and I was in

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Speaker 3: the battle for about thirty seconds. And that's kind of

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Speaker 3: where it all started at, and it's kind of rebuilt

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Speaker 3: itself since then. And then when I had a big

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Speaker 3: foot encounter in nineteen eighty one and a wing kuminoid

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Speaker 3: encounter in nineteen eighty eight, that kind of got me

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Speaker 3: on the road to the cryptid sightings and every little

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Speaker 3: thing associated with the supernatural.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of these cases in just a

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Speaker 2: moment line that's truly fantastic. But do you think and

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Speaker 2: believe that most of the things that people are seeing,

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Speaker 2: whether they be cryptids, UFOs, whatever, really happening?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I do, I really do. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people question it, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I've had encounters myself, you know, And when you talk

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Speaker 3: to so many people every day and you hear them

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Speaker 3: describe what they encountered or what they experienced, you kind

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Speaker 3: of knew they at least they think they saw something,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think this. I think these things really

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Speaker 3: do happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Chicago Lake, Michigan wing humanoid updates.

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Speaker 2: What's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's continuing on it's like the cryptid that keeps

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Speaker 3: on giving. You know. This all started back in twenty

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Speaker 3: eleven when there were three sightings in South Chicago within

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Speaker 3: a three month period and they were all three reported

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Speaker 3: to move fine, but you know, the wasn't a whole

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Speaker 3: lot done about it, and at the time we weren't

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Speaker 3: really doing the investigation either because we didn't have that

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Speaker 3: much information other than what was reported to move On.

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Speaker 3: But as time went on, they would get a case

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Speaker 3: here and there. But in the spring of two thy

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Speaker 3: seventeen is like the lid blue off and we started

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Speaker 3: getting sightings all over the city and in the suburbs.

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Speaker 3: And twenty seventeen we had about fifty five sightings that

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Speaker 3: were reported Geez to move on. And then eventually, when

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Speaker 3: move On didn't you know, follow up on the cases,

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Speaker 3: people were contacting us and some of my investigators and

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Speaker 3: we picked up on it. And that's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: We continue to get them.

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Speaker 2: These are all from the Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Area, well i'd say eighty percent or within the Chicago

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Speaker 3: metro Chicago Land area. Then we do take sightings within

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Speaker 3: a two hundred mile radius of the city. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a regional thing, but most of the sightings have

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Speaker 2: What are people describing lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, for the most part, these are five and a

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Speaker 3: half to six foot. Sometimes they're larger, very dark in color.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they're kind of shiny looking, or sometimes they're wet looking.

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Speaker 3: They have a wingspan of anywhere from twelve to fifteen foot.

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Speaker 3: The wing structure is like that of a bat or gargoyle,

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Speaker 3: a very small head, and many times they have red eyes.

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Speaker 2: Well, like those scary little panthers you've heard about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, the red eyes kind of kind

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Speaker 3: of did it in. You know, everybody was trying to

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Speaker 3: compare it to the Mothman of Point Pleasant And you know,

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Speaker 3: when we first started getting the sightings, I was calling

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Speaker 3: the Mothman. Yeah, so, in other words, to keep it

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Speaker 3: But there's all kinds of variations, a lot of the

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Speaker 3: there's all kinds of different connoctations of this being, but

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Speaker 3: all in all, it's the same thing we think.

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Speaker 2: And does it look like a human being? His face?

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Speaker 3: Its face, not necessarily the face. Most of the time

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Speaker 3: it's just the eyes that people describe. They don't really

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Speaker 3: it's a smaller head. Sometimes it has like a ray

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Speaker 3: coming off the back of it. But the body shape

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Speaker 3: we call it a wing guminoid.

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Speaker 2: And what are the look like on.

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Speaker 3: For the most part, there are bat like membrane wings

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Speaker 3: with a twelve to fifteen foot wingspand and you know,

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Speaker 3: we have had a few that have mentioned that they

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Speaker 3: look like in the sectoid wing or even that of

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Speaker 3: an owl, but very few. Most of the times it's

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Speaker 3: the it's the membrane type wing.

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Speaker 2: Well, how are people describing it as it zooms by?

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Speaker 3: Well, many times when they do see it flying, they

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Speaker 3: the one thing they do mention is that it seems

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Speaker 3: to be able to propel without flapping its wings, like

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Speaker 3: some type of supernatural propulsion to it. Occasionally people will

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Speaker 3: see it flapping its wings and many times it's very fast,

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Speaker 3: very fleeting sighting to the point where they can't even

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Speaker 3: But they're quick sightings for the most part. Sometimes they

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Speaker 3: even disappear.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and the wings is what's the spanned like like

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Speaker 2: like a human length or something.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the wingspans anywhere from twelve to fifteen foot.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good size.

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Speaker 3: It's a large wing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a cessna almost.

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Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, it's large.

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Speaker 2: Does it zoom down on people or what does it do?

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Speaker 3: Occasionally? For the most part, it seems to they're not shy.

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Speaker 3: They seem to fly close enough to where people can

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Speaker 3: see them. We've even had witnesses state that they've seen

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Speaker 3: the thing fly past them and look back just to

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Speaker 3: very u you know, it keeps us you know, it's

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Speaker 2: Has anybody described its feet or claws or anything like

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Speaker 3: The feet for the most part, are very small. Many

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Speaker 3: times when people see them suspended in the air, and

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Speaker 3: they do see them suspended, the hoverings sometimes that the

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Speaker 3: legs seem to vibrate, but the feet are very small

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Speaker 3: and the arms. It can be either attached to the

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Speaker 3: wing or separate from the wing. We've had both descriptions.

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Speaker 2: Is the creature clothed at all or any kind of uniform.

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Speaker 3: No, not that we can tell. They're usually always very

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Speaker 3: dark in color. Sometimes it is matt looking, or sometimes

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Speaker 3: it looks shiny like it's wet.

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Speaker 2: And of course, a lot of sightings happen there or

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Speaker 2: here International Airport, don't they.

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Speaker 3: We have had a large amount of sightings in and

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Speaker 3: round of hair. Yes.

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Speaker 2: What about UFO activity, There.

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Speaker 3: Has been some UFO activity associated with well off hand,

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Speaker 3: I can think of three sightings where a UFO has

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Speaker 3: been seen near the time it's sighted or just after.

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Speaker 2: What does your gut tell you on.

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Speaker 3: Well as to what it is? Yeah, I think they're

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Speaker 3: interdimensional beams indiensial Okay, I don't think they live on

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Speaker 3: this Earth plane. I think they live in a linear

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Speaker 3: dimension of sun type. They seem to be able to

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Speaker 3: move in and out very quickly, and for the most part,

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Speaker 3: I think myself and our investigators believe that they has

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Speaker 3: specific portals that they move in and out of, especially

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Speaker 3: at O'Hara.

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Speaker 2: Do they simply disappear as opposed to fly away into oblivion?

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Speaker 3: Well, most people see them fly away so quick that

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Speaker 3: they don't know, you know, that they're up into the sky.

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Speaker 3: Manytime it's the night, they can't see it. But we

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Speaker 3: have had some sightings when people have mentioned that it

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Speaker 3: just suddenly disappears like it's going through an invisible doorway.

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Speaker 2: Any sound coming from them.

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Speaker 3: Many time there's a very shrill, shrieking sound. Sometimes there's

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Speaker 3: a clicking sound associated with.

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Speaker 2: It, like a scream, a scream sound.

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Speaker 3: A screaming sound. Yes, wow, could.

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Speaker 2: You imagine that at night you're walking down the streets

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Speaker 2: and this thing comes zooming by you, like a twelve

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Speaker 2: to fifteen foot bats or something.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know it's it does shock people, It really does.

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Speaker 3: I mean to the point where, you know, if they

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Speaker 3: on the internet looking right away. And fortunately many of

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Speaker 3: them do find us because we're you know, we're been

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Speaker 3: reporting this phenomenon now for a while, and then they

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Speaker 3: reported right after the incident.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody ever been reportedly taken by one of these entities.

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Speaker 3: No physical contacts so far, and you know, if they

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Speaker 3: had been taken, well, they didn't come back because they

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Speaker 2: And nobody's told you here, I'm missing my uncle or

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Speaker 2: anything like that. How about old hair employees, what do

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Speaker 3: Well, the uh, those reports that we have gotten from

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Speaker 3: O'Hara employees have been somewhat dramatic. We've even had some

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Speaker 3: employees who do contact us are cargo workers who see

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Speaker 3: them at night when they're loading and then loading planes.

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Speaker 3: Had a couple of pilots, and we've had a couple

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Speaker 3: of air traffic controllers as well. So yeah, it's something

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Speaker 3: they don't expect to seem But for the most part,

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Speaker 3: the workers at O'Hara know about the sightings.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got another creature or entity that you say,

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Speaker 2: not dear sightings. What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, this not dear phenomenous something that's kind of raised

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Speaker 3: its ugly head in the past decade or so. It

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Speaker 3: mostly started in the Appalachian Mountains.

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Speaker 2: So it's relatively new.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhat unless people just hadn't been reporting it. But

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Speaker 3: it's it's being cited now throughout North America, and people

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Speaker 3: describe these things as having characteristics that just don't look

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Speaker 3: like regular deer. Forward setting eyes, many times, had irregular legs.

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Speaker 3: Some people say that, you know, well, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: got to be chronic wasting disease or something, but that's

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Speaker 3: just not what people describe to us. It's a deer.

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Speaker 3: Many times, it's much larger than a regular deer. It's

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Speaker 3: many times people see them standing on back legs and

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Speaker 3: moving about and walking just like a human would walk.

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Speaker 3: There's all kinds of different different descriptions, but they're just

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Speaker 2: And they're not bigfoot, No they're not. That's another story

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Speaker 2: which we'll get into, I'm sure. But hey, do they

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Speaker 2: scare people? What do they do?

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Speaker 3: Well? They shock people for the most part. They have antlers,

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: These creatures. Do they have the ability does a normal

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Speaker 3: I think they I think when when they're fighting, or

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Speaker 3: But these these not deer. Is this this is what

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Speaker 3: we call them. Many times they see these things walking

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Speaker 2: The deer type shaped pointed head.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep. It's very strange. I personally haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's somewhat rare, but it does show up once

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Speaker 3: and it's just something you know, many times hunters see

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Speaker 2: Well with Lon Strickler, of course, and his blog website

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Speaker 2: is Phantomandmonsters dot com. That's how they can get to

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Speaker 3: Absolutely excellent.

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Speaker 2: And I have another one called Cryptidhunters dot org.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my team website. Fans of Monster's fourteen research team.

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Speaker 2: How many people on your team?

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Speaker 3: Wow? We got about twenty boots of the ground investigators

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Speaker 3: now about thirty five affiliate groups. So you know, when

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Speaker 2: Where will you go anywhere?

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Speaker 3: We'll go anywhere we can get to.

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Speaker 2: Now, do people fund this or how do you spend

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Speaker 3: Well, just like most investigators, we kind of we kind

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Speaker 2: In a few minutes before the break line, tell us

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Speaker 2: about the Cecil County, Maryland investigation at a horse farm.

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Speaker 3: Fairly new investigation. We've been involved with it. It's not

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Speaker 2: Any reports of these horses being hurt or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: No, Fortunately they have let you know they have not

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Speaker 2: So far, we've talked about a number of different and

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Speaker 3: No, it's not unusual. Very very rarely is somebody attacked.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it doesn't happen. Many times. People are

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Speaker 2: We're talking with Lon Strickler about cryptids and strange creatures.

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Speaker 2: Will take your calls with him next hour here on

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Speaker 2: Coast to Coast. If you've seen any of these creatures,

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Speaker 2: But what do you recommend people do if they see

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Speaker 3: Well, try to document as much information, you know, as

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Speaker 3: any type of unexplained encounter, but try to make notes

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Speaker 2: Have you seen any great pictures?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we do get some interesting photographs.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what has been the most fascinating one you've seen? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I guess mostly some of the UFO activity for the

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