WEBVTT - “MY MOM OWES ME $40k”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, it's Lyle. Welcome to the Therapy Gecko podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening. Let's get into the episode. Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'll holy shit. How you going?

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<v Speaker 1>How am I going? I'm going good man. You're from Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>from the accent and thew you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to say a couple of months ago,

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<v Speaker 3>my girlfriend messaged you on Instagram and asked you for

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<v Speaker 3>a birthday wish, and you sent a really nice message.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what did I say that?

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<v Speaker 4>Out of breath?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm freaking out. I don't know you said your classic thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, I hope you guys end up in the

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<v Speaker 3>Kingdom of Heaven together. I know you don't believe in

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<v Speaker 3>that Christianity, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know the Kingdom. I believe vaguely in a version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Kingdom of Heaven. Wait, this was a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah in October last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, cool, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You said you were like on the subway or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I never thought you'd get a response, and

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<v Speaker 3>she surprised me with it, which was crazy. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to save but no, it was really cool, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really I'm not that clouded up anymore. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like on the subway, just like us. Maybe I'm stoned,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like sometimes I'm stoned. Like I look at Instagram, right,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'm stoned and I'll see like a message and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, can you wish me a happy birthday? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, why the fuck wouldn't I do? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why just do it? Why not? Why am I so?

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I being so precious about this? Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>do it? And so I do it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, you're a real fucking human being, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a cryan, not a.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you that. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>There, what's your what's your name? You told me already?

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<v Speaker 1>Finn again, Finn Finn.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, dude, I've been listening for like years. When

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<v Speaker 3>I when you came to Australia, I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty twenty three, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I had been listening for like a year and a

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<v Speaker 3>bit and I was so mad. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 3>came about like just before I turned eighteen, so I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't go. So I'm subscribed to all of the all

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<v Speaker 3>of the notifications. If you ever come back, I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>first one in line, hopefully cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see myself doing another Australia run at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. It was all it's dude, that's that's the toughest.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been to the States?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm maybe going on New Years. I got some

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<v Speaker 3>family over there, and I think Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the shittiest. I was up until six o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning for like a week after I got back

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<v Speaker 1>from that. That's definitely the worst jet lag place to

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<v Speaker 1>go to. But I liked. I liked Australia. Australia is

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<v Speaker 1>like if you combined, dude, you know what's crazy is Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like Americans pretty much, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all the fucking way over there. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how Australia came to be. I mean, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess similar how to I guess you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have kind of a similar history of America

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<v Speaker 1>right where it's like, you know, a bunch of white

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<v Speaker 1>people came over and like fucking killed a bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And now there's Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>The crazy thing about Australia is they literally sent over

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<v Speaker 3>like mostly convicts, so we just got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>like I think it was England's shitty convicts and then

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<v Speaker 3>you know we did the classic thing where we you know,

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<v Speaker 3>destroy millions of years of culture obviously because so white

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<v Speaker 3>people what we do best. But no, we're a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of convicts. But now Australia is like pretty like pretty

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<v Speaker 3>molly cultural, like I went to high school and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like honestly, it's it's like a lot of like Asian

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<v Speaker 3>because we're like technically like Australasia, so like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Asian influence pretty much. I mean I grew up

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<v Speaker 3>in a Greek neighborhood, but like Greek Asian a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Islanders because you know we're right, yeah, next to

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<v Speaker 3>New Zealand and all of that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, because you guys are really close to

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<v Speaker 1>like Thailand and Southeast Asia and all that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean We've got the Pacific Islanders, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like Fiji, Papua New Guinea right above us, and yeah, Thailand,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like, like, honestly, most of most most Australians

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<v Speaker 3>go to like a Bali in Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 2>For cheap holidays. So if you got there, you got

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<v Speaker 2>you go to Bali.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the middle of Indonesia. It's mostly Australians on

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<v Speaker 3>like holiday and ship, which is kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Finn, you texted me and you said, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk about how my mom owes me forty

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<v Speaker 1>grand but it's too focused on her new boyfriend to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me about it. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only told my girlfriend and obviously my family about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, like I would have been about five and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen now, my auntie passed away and she left me

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<v Speaker 3>and my brother a sizable like will whatever. And basically

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<v Speaker 3>my mom when I was about sixteen, proposed to me

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<v Speaker 3>and my brother like, look, you know, the rent, rent

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<v Speaker 3>and housing market over here is just fucked and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, look, we probably are going to want to

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<v Speaker 3>use it for house and you know, me being sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, go for it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather my mum take that money than you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not have a house, because I'm a normal human being anyway. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>lemon off, you're going to blow down. I'm speaking really absoletely.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, you're doing you're doing, You're doing perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Fastwood.

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<v Speaker 3>When I graduated high school, she well, I graduated high school,

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<v Speaker 3>I turned eighteen. I don't know if it's different in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia like I know in America. So I'm going off track.

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<v Speaker 3>In America, you're like twenty one to drink. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you're eighteen, you're an adult in America. But

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia, when you're eighteen, you're like an adult. Like

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<v Speaker 3>you can drink, you can do all that stuff anyway, unimportant.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom's a teacher and when I turned eighteen, she

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<v Speaker 3>got a contract to go teach out in rural Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's an eleven hour drive from me and it's

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<v Speaker 3>still in like the same state, which is weird. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>basically her and my little brother, my little brother's sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to him if he's listening, love you anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like, look, she was a single mother

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<v Speaker 3>a T shirt not you know, that's hard. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, look, if you need to go do that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. I will take over the mortgage of the

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<v Speaker 3>current place with a couple of friends, the place that

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<v Speaker 3>she had used that forty grand to buy. Anyway, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>cut it short, I know, not trying to take up

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<v Speaker 3>all your time. But yeah, she went out there. Things

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<v Speaker 3>going great for her. She's dating this guy met through

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<v Speaker 3>the apps, as everyone does, and you know, she's a

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<v Speaker 3>single parent with my brother who's a bit troubled.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>But basically when she moved away, which was about which

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<v Speaker 3>was the end of twenty twenty four, for the first

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<v Speaker 3>six months, I would call her like, you know, most

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<v Speaker 3>weeks and we'd have like a thirty minute chat when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm driving home from work. And then she started dating

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<v Speaker 3>the guy and I try to call her, but every

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<v Speaker 3>time I've called her, it like goes through the voicemail

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<v Speaker 3>and then I get angry, and then she tries to

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<v Speaker 3>call me back, and I'm like, oh, I'm a bit angry.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't pick up.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when she does pick up or I call

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<v Speaker 3>her back, she's like she'll talk for like five minutes max,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she's like, oh, I've got to go on

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<v Speaker 3>this trip.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, she's like, oh, I'm busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I try to call her and she's like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>away on holiday because this guy's pretty pretty well off

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<v Speaker 3>and they go on a lot of like weekend trips.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's been a couple of months and

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't talked to her about it, but I did

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<v Speaker 3>manage to get through to her one time, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, look, you know about that forty grand.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I want to have.

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<v Speaker 3>A conversation about it, because it's obviously not no money,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm a I'm a university student, paying rent, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, not not easy to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, look, if I could have some assistants,

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be great. I don't want I don't expect forty

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<v Speaker 3>grand in my bank account the next day because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not an idiot, but you know, if we could work

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<v Speaker 3>something out. And that was about three months ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've gone through to her guess and both times she's like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I just need another week. And kind of the reason

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to talk to you was just because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fucking it's the therapy, Get go.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to the therapy.

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<v Speaker 4>Get go.

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<v Speaker 3>But also like it's becoming to a point with me

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<v Speaker 3>where my relationship with her is causing me a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of anger. And you know, I'm lucky to have an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing partner who I can talk to us about talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this with. But it's like, do I keep calling

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<v Speaker 3>her and keep getting angry and you know, feeling down

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<v Speaker 3>about my relationship with my mother? Just so with the

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<v Speaker 3>hope I can you know, have a good relationship one

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<v Speaker 3>day and also get this forty grand back? Or is

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<v Speaker 3>it like it is causing a strain on me where

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to cut it off or take a

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<v Speaker 3>step back.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like you know, very very strongly worded email.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm trying to you know, forgive me. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>explained this, I'm trying to write my head around it. So,

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<v Speaker 1>your auntie passed away and left you and your sibling.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, me and my little brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You and your brother h forty grand collectively.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty grand each, so is about one hundred grand. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know we got twenty grand. You know you need

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<v Speaker 3>a laptop of school and your school bags and your

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<v Speaker 3>school fees and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was so legal, so legally, legally, legally, legally,

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<v Speaker 1>that forty grand is yours? Like what's the what's the

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<v Speaker 1>legal standpoint on this? Right? Because if your mom like

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<v Speaker 1>what what's your mom doing? Is she like is she inte?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she stealing this money from you? Or is she

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<v Speaker 1>just like being too busy to give it to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like what's like, what's going on? Is why is she?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it? Why? You said you were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect it to just appear in my bank

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<v Speaker 1>account instantly, And I'm like, wait, why she has it,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't she? And it's yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Well she is?

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<v Speaker 1>Why why why shouldn't Why should it not appear your

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<v Speaker 1>bank account instantly?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely don't think she's the type of person to

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<v Speaker 3>be malicious about it, Like I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>she'd like hold it over my head or she would like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not a thing of oh I'm holding

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<v Speaker 3>this over your head or I'm like intentionally, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it is just a thing where she is like so

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<v Speaker 3>because she moved away, and you know, it has got

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<v Speaker 3>a whole new life now, and it's like she's so

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<v Speaker 3>deeply entrenched in her new life. And I've tried reaching

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<v Speaker 3>out obviously, all like it was cool. I can't drive

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<v Speaker 3>up there, but it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think she's the type of person. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>she's my mom, she's my mom. I'd like to believe

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<v Speaker 3>that she's not. I mean, maybe she is, but it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>but the thing is, I think when I was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>she like I signed some type of papers. But the

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<v Speaker 3>thing is, I think there was an amendment in that

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<v Speaker 3>that she has to pay me back when I'm over eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Probably, dude, I'm this is crazy. This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like your mom. Okay, so dude, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell your mom to is your fucking money, tell her

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<v Speaker 1>to give her tell her that you she's got to

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<v Speaker 1>give you that money or else you have to come

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<v Speaker 1>after her for it, because she can't just keep like

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<v Speaker 1>dodging you, dude. Like, like I think also also, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're having this attitude about it that's very passive

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to stir the pot. But like

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<v Speaker 1>your mom's being kind of a dick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it comes from a thing where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>my little brother with her, and you know he he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't live with my dad anymore, and it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also a bit worried, like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>poke the bear because I'm afraid that it's gonna mess

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<v Speaker 3>with my relationship with him. And then also like at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, I'm an adult and it's

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<v Speaker 3>my mom and we have separate lives. But also like

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want to like go at it in

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<v Speaker 3>like a funnel way where I funnel like from the

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<v Speaker 3>least aggressive way at the start, and then if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't get feedback, if I don't get anything back, then

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<v Speaker 3>I move up and I keep moving up. I do

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<v Speaker 3>I get that money back. I don't want to just

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<v Speaker 3>go with it, you know, yeah, of course no.

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<v Speaker 1>I get you. You're you don't want to send like

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers after your mom and shit, like how long have

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<v Speaker 1>you been asking her for this money? I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're in nineteen, she should have given it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would have been about six to eight

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago. I know I said a month before, But

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<v Speaker 3>now that I actually use my fucking brain and have

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<v Speaker 3>calmed down a bit and then yeah, I've I gave

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<v Speaker 3>her like three two weeks and I caught her back

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like, I need another week. And I caught

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<v Speaker 3>her back like I think last week and I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on meeting? I need another week to

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<v Speaker 1>do what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>The money was talking to her lawyers, but I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>like I I mean, I'm like a dumb ass nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>year old, so I don't know, Like I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I could go speak to a lawyer about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard you.

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<v Speaker 3>Give the I fucking speak to a lawyer and I guess, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like well, so like, dude, what's your I'm having trouble

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<v Speaker 1>understanding your relationship with your mom? Like so you're out

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<v Speaker 1>on your own and like your mom has her new

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<v Speaker 1>life with her new boyfriend, but your little brother is there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the they're moved like eleven twelve hours away

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<v Speaker 3>from me, and you know, I'm back in where I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up to go to university and you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>my my girlfriend and all that stuff. And yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 3>basically moved out there. I think she contract originally for

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<v Speaker 3>two years, but I think she's going to extend it.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically I turned eighteen and she took my little

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<v Speaker 3>brother and moved away for a better paying job and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's cheaper to live in the country and

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your you said, You've been talking to your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>about this? What's she say? She probably knows? Does she

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<v Speaker 1>know your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, she's met my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>She she kind of I mean, she obviously comforts me

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<v Speaker 3>for ust because it's a very emotional thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship with your parents obviously, but she kind of

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<v Speaker 3>puts it in a thing that she knows my mom

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<v Speaker 3>and she knows I should like trust it. But it

0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:48.800
<v Speaker 3>reaches a point like it's my girlfriend does reinforce that

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<v Speaker 3>it is my money, and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've got to do what's right for myself

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an adult.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to you know, get a nice place and

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<v Speaker 3>have you know, fucking steak for dinner and whatever. But

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<v Speaker 3>she's kind of reinforcing like the same thing as you

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like, look, you need to like stand on

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<v Speaker 3>business per se and kind of you know, push forward

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<v Speaker 3>because you can't be pushed around and just like accept it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but I think she mostly comes at a

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<v Speaker 3>thing from like companying me emotionally because you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty can be rough at times.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I understand the roughness of the situation. But also

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't know, Man, your mom's pissing me off.

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<v Speaker 3>Dide, you gotta fly down to Australia to talk to her,

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<v Speaker 3>you instead of dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe dude, maybe your mom's pissing me off. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like, why is she being so like in inaccessible.

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<v Speaker 3>She's she's she's also like, oh my god, this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>even like the thing, the main thing kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>just add something to the story real quick if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's teacher with a boyfriend and a kid, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's also doing an online degree to like be a

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<v Speaker 3>higher level of a teacher. Anyway, I give her my

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix account password, and every time I call her, she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm busy with school or your brother or boyfriend or whatever, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I shoot you not. At least like two times

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<v Speaker 3>a week she will message me and say, hey, can

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<v Speaker 3>you reset the Netflix because you know, you can't like

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<v Speaker 3>share a Netflix when someone's eleven hours where you have

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<v Speaker 3>to like reset the location of the household. So she'll like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll call her and she'll say she's busy and she's

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<v Speaker 3>doing stuff. But then twice a week she has the

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<v Speaker 3>time to like sit around on Netflix. And this will

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<v Speaker 3>be in the middle of a day when she's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole day off to do her study, and she'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>can you reset the Netflix account. It's like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>can sit down and watch Netflix, but you can't fucking

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<v Speaker 3>speak to a lawyer or pick up the phone and

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<v Speaker 3>call me, which is just the fucking cherry on top

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<v Speaker 3>that makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Ro bro Bro. What's your name.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, Finn, Finn, Finn, Finn bro Finn.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a question, Finn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go go uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So your mam has owed you this money for

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<v Speaker 1>at least eight weeks, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight weeks since I've brought it up about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and when was the last time she asked you

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<v Speaker 1>to reset the Netflix?

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<v Speaker 3>If I put you on speaker, oh, opening the messages

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<v Speaker 3>up right now, okaym.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Thursday this week she asked you on Thursday to

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<v Speaker 1>reset the Netflix. Yeah, what did Finn? Finn, Finn Finn, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you fucking say, what did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Did you reset the Netflix?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>I just I think I left it on red. But

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<v Speaker 3>I might have done it and just forgotten about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't respond like, yeah, yeah, fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>I, Finn, tell her to pay you the fucking forty

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<v Speaker 1>th thousand dollars if she wants you to reset the net.

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<v Speaker 1>Who pays for the Netflix?

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<v Speaker 4>Me?

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<v Speaker 1>You pay for the Netflix? Yeah, Finn, Fenn, Finn, Finn,

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<v Speaker 1>kick your mom off of the Netflix account. Immediately kick

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<v Speaker 1>your mom off of that Netflix account immediately. Dude, What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck If someone knows me forty thousand dollars, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not letting them use my Netflix account?

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>The Netflix brother, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'll just next time she sends she sends,

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<v Speaker 3>can you reset the Netflix? Polse it, I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 3>can you send the forty k that's please.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear God valid? Yes, of course that's valid. Then listen, Finn, honestly, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>can I be a finance dude? Okay? What you everything

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<v Speaker 1>you just told me about your mom using your Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>password and stuff, it's it's it's telling me exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a guy you are and what like

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with your mom is like, and you seem,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you're a nice you're a nice boy fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very you're you're a sweet nice boy. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're letting your mom uh for lack of a better uh, truly,

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better phrase, you're letting your mom

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<v Speaker 1>dick you down a little too hard, you know, kind

0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of letting your mom dick you down a little too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mom's kind of ugging man, And uh, you can't.

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 1>You can't let your mom dick you down like this. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>You guys stand up financial you you gotta you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>just call her every day and be like, listen, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta send me like you just gotta call her

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<v Speaker 1>every day and then at a certain point you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, I gotta I gotta send the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking troops in. But she can't be using your Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>while you're waiting on this. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what you've given me. You've actually given me

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<v Speaker 3>the inspiration to take action. I really appreciate you, man,

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, what are you gonna do tomorrow? Or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what time it is in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about to go to sleep, but in between classes

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 3>and work, I will call her, or I will I mean,

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably gonna call her. She's probably not going to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up, and then probably on Tuesday she'll send me

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<v Speaker 3>a request of fucking reason the Netflix past it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go due.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>When she says you're no, call her and be like

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<v Speaker 1>you got to call her and be like, I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you the Eno fix pastor when you send me the

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<v Speaker 1>forty grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'd say that's a pretty fair deal now that

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<v Speaker 3>I think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want an update from you, Finn. I want send

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<v Speaker 1>me a text, or I might not see the text,

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<v Speaker 1>but give me another call at some point. I want

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to I want an update on this. Send me a text.

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll see the text, send me a text. I want

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to know what. I want to know if you get

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>this forty come back. But I'm glad that this inspired

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you to take action, because you can't let your mom

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 1>mug you like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't go on like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go, Finn?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're ever struggling with mental health.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone would always rather you reach out than do anything,

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<v Speaker 3>because no matter who you are, no matter where you are,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always someone who cares about you, and it's always better.

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<v Speaker 2>To reach out and speak to someone.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a nice You're a nice man. You're a sweet boy, Finn.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get your go, get your forty thirs from your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, take care of man, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Go on?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for sharing, man, that's insane. Do Yeah, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>mom sucks. Unfortunately, that's a bummer. I always feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>when callers tell me about their parents, and their parents

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<v Speaker 1>kind of suck. But yeah, man, it's at a certain point.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to reset the Netflix password.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, Wow, I should call back. This is like

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<v Speaker 4>my first time calling.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>You have the deepest voice I have ever heard in

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life. Do you think definitely positively that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I've never liked the sound of my voice. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I sound high all the time. Those are

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<v Speaker 4>people always me?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Uh so why don't why don't you? Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you like your own voice? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think it's because I have a weird accent

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Like, uh, I mean I never really grew

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<v Speaker 4>up in a place I like I'm some uh and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>my accent is kind of like a mix of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm, I you're calling.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm actually no, go ahead and guess just once.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Uh, guess where you're from? Because you're calling

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<v Speaker 1>me from a non US number, So I'm curious where

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<v Speaker 1>you are right now. Uh, i'd see. I'm gonna guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're I'm not gonna guess somewhere specific, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>guess you're Eastern European.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah. I can give you a hint. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 4>country that's getting attacked right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh are you from Venezuela?

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<v Speaker 4>Nah? Nah nah Dubai. I grew up here. Oh, not

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<v Speaker 4>really from here. You can't really say that though, because

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of weird here because like basically you have

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<v Speaker 4>like locals like Amarzis are the people that are, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, from from here. Like ethnically, I'm just a

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<v Speaker 4>kid that grew up here, like you know, since I

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<v Speaker 4>was like three.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmmm, where were you born?

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<v Speaker 4>So? I was born in the UK, but my parents

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<v Speaker 4>moved here when I was a kid. Well, ethnically I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not British.

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<v Speaker 1>Either, So what do you So you were born in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, though ethnically that British raised in Dubai. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are your parents from?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my parents are Moroccan.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm, okay, born to Moroccan parents in the UK and

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<v Speaker 1>then moved to Dubai. Yeah, you got your mix of

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<v Speaker 1>you're mixing up a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's kind of a normal story here though, like

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<v Speaker 4>all my friends have the exact same kind of story

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<v Speaker 4>as I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dubai is a place where people are not born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised, they're they're moved. They moved there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I have some friends that are born and raised here,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, you can be born and raised here, but

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<v Speaker 4>you're never like eligible for the citizenship because they're like

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<v Speaker 4>super protective about their nationality.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait what wait I'm I I sorry for my ignorance,

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<v Speaker 1>but Dubai is being attacked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, so you know, since the US and the

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<v Speaker 4>and the Israel are attacking Iran at the moment, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're they're shooting at each other, they're you know, basically,

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<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of US military bases around the

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<v Speaker 4>Middle East, and uh, and I guess they think that

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<v Speaker 4>there are some targets in the UAE. So they're just

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<v Speaker 4>shooting a bunch of missiles here. But like, for the

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<v Speaker 4>most part, it's been pretty uh okay. I've you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you hear explosions that like every couple of hours, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, nothing really that bad has happened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of people have died, but to be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>with the amount of artillery they've been sending our way,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's been like, you know, pretty pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a lot of like people on the

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<v Speaker 4>internet saying that, you know, it's all propaganda. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really bad over there. People are shooting their past.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like terrified. I don't think that's true, honestly, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I think for a lot of people, like life is

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<v Speaker 4>pretty okay. I say this. One of my friends called

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<v Speaker 4>me a couple of hours ago telling me about how

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<v Speaker 4>the building next to his got hit. But like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he he's fine, He's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Okay. What do you do in Dubai?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh so? I I work as a software engineer for

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<v Speaker 4>a really really weird company. Basically all of my coworkers

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<v Speaker 4>are Vietnamese, like all of them. This being said, like

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<v Speaker 4>I've I've worked sorry I've lived here most of my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh and I don't think I've ever met a Vietnamese

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<v Speaker 4>person here, And ever since I started working for this company,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've met all the Vietnamese people here.

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<v Speaker 1>You've met every Vietnamese person in Dubai.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I mean there's a high chance, like there are

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. There are a lot. Like I was really

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<v Speaker 4>like surprised, and like, you know, I've been to Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the place. But I'm not gonna lie. The

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<v Speaker 4>work environment in this company has been like pretty uh

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<v Speaker 4>pretty you know, it's been pretty hectic.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you describe the Why is the work environment nuts?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they don't really keep track of anything. There

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<v Speaker 4>are no uh you know, we don't really get like

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<v Speaker 4>official deadlines. They don't really write anything down. Everything is

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<v Speaker 4>just like really all over the place. And like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>me and like, I guess there are like ten other

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<v Speaker 4>people among like you know this like several hundred people

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<v Speaker 4>company or whatever. I mean in our team specifically, I

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<v Speaker 4>think there are like sixty people and ten of us

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<v Speaker 4>are not Vietnamese, and just you know, it's I guess

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<v Speaker 4>you feel kind of isolated in that environment where everyone

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<v Speaker 4>around you is speaking Vietnamese all the time, and like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a lot of these guys don't really speak

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<v Speaker 4>very good English, so you know you're just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you try to communicate with them, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of hard. Mmm.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty six? Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna stay in Dubai? Is Dubai like your vibe?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you want to leave and go somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a good question, man, To be honest, I

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 4>ask myself that every day. I did like live in

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<v Speaker 4>London a little while, and I guess I did like it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was sort of nice, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 4>moving to a new city and like you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>readjusting making new friends and stuff I have. I like,

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<v Speaker 4>I have friends there still, but it's a completely different

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<v Speaker 4>vibe living in London and living here is a whole

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<v Speaker 4>different thing because it's like, I mean, you know, Dubai

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<v Speaker 4>is what you see on Instagram and stuff. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of like, you know, it's it's really luxurious. It's

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<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of I guess cool buildings and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff you can see, but uh, you know, it does

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<v Speaker 4>feel kind of shallow a lot of the time. As well. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>like it does attract a certain kind of person, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I'm that kind of person. Mmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, I was gonna bring this up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So Reddit always had there's always an ask Reddit thread

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<v Speaker 1>like this pops up like once a month and it

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<v Speaker 1>and it says like, where's the worst place you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>been in the world?

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<v Speaker 4>Number?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and three places typically always show up. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've never I've okay, so it's Dubai, Cairo, Egypt, and Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been. I went to Paris a while ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to Cairo, never been to Dubai. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it as bad as people say?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, not at all. Honestly, I think most people

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<v Speaker 4>that have never lived here, they could probably come and

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<v Speaker 4>live here for a couple of years and be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think, especially for somebody that's like a homebody,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a good place to be a homebody because,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the food is great. You can get like

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<v Speaker 4>a lot, I guess, you can get like a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of luxury for quite cheap. You can like live in

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, a nice apartment for the same price

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<v Speaker 4>you pay for a shitty one in like America, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's stays like even even with all this

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<v Speaker 4>shit happening, it's still a pretty safe place, Like you

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<v Speaker 4>can walk down the streets about worrying about getting like

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, robbed or anything. Uh and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's not that bad, but you do have to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of, like, I guess, look past a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things because you know, you don't really get like I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>proper like freedom of speech here, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I guess I'm used to just not saying anything

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>that might get me in trouble, but I've heard a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of stories about some people, you know, just like

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<v Speaker 4>telling someone the fuck off in traffic and next thing

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they're getting deported.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA really.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that that stuff can happen here because I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>like in like Arab Islamic culture, I guess we take

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 4>like that sort of disrespect, like really seriously. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like that, but uh, you know a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people can be like that here.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmmmmm. And uh so what's your friend group?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it full of other like people who came to

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<v Speaker 1>Dubai when they were really young and they all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stayed. Are they all around still? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly? First, exactly. Yeah, But I guess the only thing is,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess this is such a dumb thing to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate I hate having a chip on my shoulder

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<v Speaker 4>about this. I mean, all my friends, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're they they have super like super rich parents. Uh

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<v Speaker 4>And don't get me wrong, like I'm privileged, Like I

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 4>got to grow up here. I mean, you know, it

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 4>was back when no one wanted to live here, but

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I got to grow up here. My parents got like

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<v Speaker 4>were paid pretty decently. I didn't really, like, I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>need much when I was a kid, like I got,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a lot of video games, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, that was enough. But like the a lot

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 4>of the friends that I grew up with here, like

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 4>they live in a different world, you know, like they

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<v Speaker 4>don't they don't think about stuff like saving they don't

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 4>think about like they don't really need to think about

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 4>their future in the same way that I do, because

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 4>I guess they always have that safety net under them.

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 4>But for me, my parents are sort of broke at

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 4>this point, and I'm always sort of like just checking

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 4>myself trying to make sure that I'm like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not uh not wasting my money, not wasting my time,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I just had a job interview like half an

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 4>hour ago, because you know, I'm just like I really

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 4>need to get out this company, but also I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get paid more like I really want to be

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<v Speaker 4>in a I guess I want to feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not just surviving.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmmmm, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like I'm aware that that's like kind of

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>one of the cultural cultural things about Dubai is that

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>people there are very rich. You feel like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean no, no, that's not that's not completely true like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean you have people like me, like like

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<v Speaker 4>me and my friends, you know, we come from like

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<v Speaker 4>fairly like uh, I you know, well off in comparis

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 4>to families middle class to like just like stinking rich.

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Uh and uh you know we we so we went

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 4>to private schools because here you have most people go

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 4>to private schools. Like the public schools are mostly like

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 4>taught in Arabic and they're like Arabic curriculum. Uh and uh.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 4>Like a lot of people's jobs will so if you're

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 4>a parent that moves here, your job will take care

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 4>of like the schooling for for a private school for

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 4>your kids. That isn't universal, but it happens a lot

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 4>so yeah, we went to a private school. Uh. Then

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 4>you know they're not like exactly the same as the

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 4>private schools you'll see like in America or like the UK,

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 4>but they're still like pretty good quality. And uh you know,

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>we we we got like university educations and stuff like that,

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 4>so we managed to get like decent paid jobs. Like

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 4>I make like like five thousand bucks a month doing

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 4>what I do, which is good for Dubai. Uh. And

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 4>then when you like look at like so we have

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 4>a lot of like delivery drivers and stuff like that

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 4>and like security guards and there's no real like minimum

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 4>wage here, so these guys make like I don't know,

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 4>like six seven hundred bucks a month. Uh, maybe a

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 4>little bit more, I don't know. Uh. And I mean

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 4>the cost of living is expense severe, so they have

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 4>to like you know, you know, like share rooms and

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that and like really like slum it out.

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 4>But uh you know, uh for them, I guess it's

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 4>like it works for them because the money here goes

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 4>so much further in their home country mm hmm where

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean. Sorry, I'm yapping a lot.

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh no no, no, please, please please keep going. I

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to ask, like okay, the people who are

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>making like seven hundred bucks a month, Like where where

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>are they coming from? Like where what's their home country? Typically?

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Uh, you know like East Asian countries, Southeast Asian countries,

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 4>South Asian countries, so like you know India and Nepal, Bangladesh,

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 4>the Philippines. You know a lot of people from those

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 4>countries because at the end of the day, you know,

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.240
<v Speaker 4>living here, they still got a better quality of life.

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 4>But they still like you know, like a lot of

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 4>people will argue that, you know, they get so like

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 4>like really underpaid. Uh. But at the same time they

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 4>do make U I guess, Like for I guess if

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 4>they if they keep coming here, then it's enough. But

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 4>you know they have to put up with a lot

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 4>of like be a mm hm m hmm.

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>So what's your what's your goal? Man? What's your what's

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>your whole thing? What are you trying to do? You're

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 1>looking for a new job. What if you could wave

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a magic wand and be doing anything? What does your

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>life look like?

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Not fucking working? Man? Like the ship. I can't do

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 4>this ship anymore? Man, Like with this job I could

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 4>I've just been like literally just going in every day checking,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 4>like just checking the time. Like this is one episode

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 4>of The Sopranos. Where have you ever watched a surprise

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 4>I have?

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I dude, I'm so TikTok brained. I just I couldn't

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>get past the opening credits where they're going across.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 4>The Yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries, no worries. It's like, yeah, basically,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 4>there's like this this guy that runs away from them

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 4>all because they're gonna kill him for being gay or

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 4>like embarrassing him because he's gay. Uh. And he goes

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 4>and like he's he's just working in some random, like

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 4>fucking small town in New England, like as a carpenter

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.760
<v Speaker 4>or some ship. Uh. And they have this one scene

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 4>where he's just working like starts day, starts at nine,

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 4>and he just keeps checking the clock, keeps checking the clock,

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 4>keeps checking the clock, and then you know the clock

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 4>is just not moving. Uh. And he's just waiting for

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 4>his lunchtime. He keeps hearing him talk to himself like

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, a couple of minutes to lunch, lunchtime, a

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 4>couple of minutes to lunchtime, and then uh, you know,

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 4>all this suspense, all this build up and by the

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 4>time the clock hits twelve, he just bucks off back

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 4>to New Jersey and gets himself killed by the mall.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Because you just can't live a normal life. And that's

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 4>kind of how I feel, like I just can't. I

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 4>find it really hard to tolerate this, but I have

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 4>no choice, you know, like this is how the world works,

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.959
<v Speaker 4>like in an ideal world, because I mean I did,

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 4>like a couple of years back, I quit my job,

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 4>my other job, and like I went traveling through Southeast

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 4>Asia for seven months, and you know, you know, best

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 4>experience in my life. Was a great time, got toe

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 4>tons of cool shit, but you know, you can't do

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 4>that stuff forever. I did eventually like run out of money,

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 4>and I guess I'm not really like I mean, with

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 4>what I do, I should be able to get a

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 4>remote job, but I don't like what I do either,

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 4>So I've just been sort of like stuck trying to

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 4>figure out what I can do that can make me

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 4>money that also gives me like you know, flexibility to

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 4>live like that. But uh, it's not so simple.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 1>M Why was your time in Southeast Asia so good?

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>What were you doing? Was it just like the freedom?

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Was it like the people you were meeting.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little bit of both. Uh, you know, freedom

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 4>was nice just being able to you know, just wake

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 4>up at like ten o'clock on a random Monday and

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 4>just like be like, oh, yeah, fuck you, bro, I'm

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna climb this mountain then sandals and you know, just

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 4>doing that, almost dying the process, but still having a

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 4>good time. But like here, like living like this, you know,

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 4>all I can really look forward to is like getting

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 4>a drunk with my friends on the weekend. And yeah,

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 4>it's just not really that, like, I don't know, enriching.

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 4>I had to sound like one of those like you know,

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 4>like hippie type people, you know, talking down on other people, saying,

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, I can't believe they live their lives like this.

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 4>But I genuinely, like I look at my friends, I'm like,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 4>how how are you not bored? Yet? You know, I

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 4>find like a lot of this stuff really to be

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 4>like really like boring, But I still do it because

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't really I mean, it's better than sitting at

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 4>home like rewatching you know, TV shows or like playing

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 4>video games or some shit.

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Are your friends having a similar dilemma as you or

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 1>are they able to tolerate normal life better than you are.

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know. I can't say for sure. I

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 4>do ask them, and some of them seem like they're

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 4>tolerating it quite well. But at the same time, you

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 4>hear them complain about things which you know you can

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 4>relate to. But I mean, I guess they're not looking

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 4>as much to get out of it because they have

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 4>a lot of things built around it, because you know,

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of my friends have like long term relationships.

0:42:55.680 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 4>They have like I got some friends that of like

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 4>trying to buy off houses and stuff, Like they're trying

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 4>to like start to pay for their mortgages and stuff

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 4>like that. Uh, so they can I guess, you know,

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 4>they can't really afford to hate what they have because

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 4>they do need to like lock in a little bit. Yeah,

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 4>but uh, I don't know. I mean, I think everyone

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 4>does go through the same thing kind of But I

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 4>don't know. I just I really, like, I really struggle

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 4>to be okay with it.

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>M m.

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 4>M.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know anyone in your personal life who has

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>escaped the matrix, so to speak?

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know a couple of people that have. I

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 4>mean one of some guy that I went to school with.

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 4>Uh he I mean, I don't really know what he does.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 4>He stalls like automation courses on LinkedIn, and uh, you know,

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 4>like you know, power to him. I I don't have

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 4>it in me to do stuff like that, Like I

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 4>really like, I hate using LinkedIn. I hate that whole like,

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, the whole culture of just sort of like

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 4>trying to gas yourself up professionally and fill your you know,

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 4>your CV with like random qualifications and stuff. But he's

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 4>doing well for himself. I mean, I know a couple

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 4>of people that, you know, they do freelance work, but uh,

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean for the most part, most of the people

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 4>I know, they they just work like regular jobs. Mhm hm.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm hmmm.

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess that's not an issue you have

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 4>to do with because you know, you just get to like,

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, put the get go costume on and like

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 4>go wherever you want. Right.

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>It's true. I I I do live a bit of

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a I do live a spoiled existence at this point

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>where I can uh kind of gecko around, you know.

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but problems are still problems, you know, Like I

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 4>feel I feel like when you're because you know, when

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I like, I have some friends that they they'll complain

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 4>about like whatever problems they'll have, Like you know, again,

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 4>like I have some friends that are like super rich,

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 4>have nothing to worry about, and they'll complain about things,

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 4>and I don't. I don't really hate on people for

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 4>complaining about their problems because at the end of the day,

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 4>like your problem is a problem, Like just because you're

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.760
<v Speaker 4>drowning under two feet of water doesn't mean you're still

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 4>like not drowning.

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, no, I'm with you. I mean everyone has problems,

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>right like I I. I Actually it's funny, man, I

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>used to kind of envision I definitely have done this

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>thing where I when I was a kid, I remember

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 1>like envisioning the lives of certain people that I looked

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 1>up to, and I kind of imagined what it would

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>be like to travel, or what it would be like

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to live this kind of lifestyle, or what it would

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>be like to you know, get to be creative for

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a living at this thing. And when I imagined all

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>those things, I imagined like a life where I, you know,

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have any problems, and there's I don't

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>think there's such a thing as a life with those problems.

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're kind of I mean no, there totally

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is Actually I've totally met people before who have no problems.

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>And I'm also I also delusionally believe that, you know,

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>how like you can you can kind of keep delaying

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>happiness or like delaying your life to quote unquote start

0:46:54.320 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>until some certain set of external metrics are met. Over

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and over and over again, people find that the fulfillment

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of those external metrics does not really uh work. But uh,

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I've I don't believe that. I actually totally still believe

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 1>despite how uh it's been proven counter over and over again,

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I still kind of believe that I'm like this close

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.799
<v Speaker 1>to a life without any problems. I just have to

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>fix a few things that.

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 4>Are like problem is, you know, can you give me

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 4>some what do.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 1>I think my biggest problem is? Fuck, it's it's a role,

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a rolodex of things. I mean, like I'd like

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to be, uh, I'd like to be more aligned, you

0:47:54.719 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean by that? Aligned with what just well,

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like I'd like to be like living a life for

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like every single day. I feel like I'm like aligned

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>with what I should be doing in the universe, which

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I which does have I know, I know that like, uh,

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>there's no such thing. It's like what you should be doing.

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I know that we live in kind of an

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:20.240
<v Speaker 1>open world, uh, free will whatever universe, but I feel

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>there's some times like in my gut, I can feel

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:29.720
<v Speaker 1>when I'm aligned and how I'm currently spending the moment,

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and I can feel in my gut when I'm like,

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>what we're doing right now?

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean like those sort of things you do

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 4>like in your in your dates to day or like

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 4>you're weekly like streams or whatever you're doing.

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>There. I think that having this conversation with you right now,

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel aligned in the fact that we're doing this,

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 1>but it's not it doesn't feel like it's enough for me.

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel I always feel like I have to

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>be doing more or like it's not even that I

0:48:58.400 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>have to be doing it where it's like I was

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>want to be doing more shit.

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 4>But do you think it's like uh, I guess, uh,

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 4>sort of in the realm of what you're doing, Like

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 4>do you think like creating content is the sort of

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 4>thing that makes you feel like you're aligned with what

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 4>you should be doing, like or close to it.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, making making things? But then

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>also I like being around people. And I guess the

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>content that I make inherently forces me to be around people.

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So I guess i'd like to be I'd like to

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>be living my life more. I'd always like to be

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>living more intentionally. I mean I get I get swept away,

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>as we all do by like the phone, and you know,

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>weed and porn and life.

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, see those are problems we don't have so

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 4>much here because weed as illegal and porn is blocked

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 4>on everything.

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Really okay, what's the story with that? No porn at all?

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I mean can uh if you are a

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 4>criminal who you know, engages in illegal activities, you can't

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 4>use a VPM. Uh but I don't know about that.

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure you don't.

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 4>But uh yeah, drug is completely illegal. Like I know

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 4>some people that have just fully like disappeared after getting caught,

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 4>and you know that's enough for me to just never

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 4>want to try it here.

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Dude. It's interesting because Dubai seems I've never been, but

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>just my idea of it is it seems like a

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>cocainey city.

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah that that. I mean, I've definitely like, uh,

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 4>I've seen some people that, like, you know, like these

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 4>guys definitely have to be on code. But uh, I

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 4>never like, you know, I don't partake in it when

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, Like I if I do drugs, I do

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 4>it in a you know, in a place where I'm

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 4>not going to get into like huge trouble for it,

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 4>like uh you know, but not here. Not here, like

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:03.400
<v Speaker 4>alcohol is enough for me.

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, hmmm. Are they big drinkers over there? Do

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>they get Are they always getting sucked up?

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean not not the local people, because they

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 4>tend to be more uh you know, on the religious

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 4>side of the spectrum. Uh, but uh, you know a

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:19.800
<v Speaker 4>lot of like me and my friends. Yeah, we always

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 4>get drunk every weekend. We're always drinking. Maybe not right

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 4>now because it's Ramadan, so you kind of you know,

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 4>I I'm trying to be good. I'm not I'm not

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 4>particularly religious, but uh, you know, I live with my parents,

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 4>so kind of feel like I have to do it.

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Is the Middle East in general kind of dry, Like

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously it's dry, obviously the climate is dry.

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, yeah, yeah, because when I was when

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I was in Iraq, like, no, I don't I I

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell whether or not alcohol was legal, but I

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>never it was never sold anywhere.

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's usually they I mean I've seen that it

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 4>like when I went to Morocco. It usually sort of

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 4>operates under the like under a system where you know,

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 4>you don't serve it openly and broad daylight, but you

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.280
<v Speaker 4>can still get it here as well. For the longest

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 4>time it was like that. But I guess in the

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 4>last couple of years since they opened up the tourists,

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 4>they've wanted to, I guess, make it, you know, it

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 4>make their image seem a bit more like western or friendly.

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 4>So now they have, like I guess, more more bars

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 4>and nightclubs and beach clubs and stuff like that that

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 4>are like pretty like you know out there in front

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 4>of you. You still can't advertise alcohol though, but you

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.280
<v Speaker 4>know they're alcohol shops. Like I can walk ten minutes

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 4>down the road and go and buy a bottle of

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 4>vodka if I want. You know, what's a little bit

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 4>over priced but still good.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:56.280
<v Speaker 1>What's the stupidest like luxury thing you've seen in Dubai,

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Like if you see like like shit like a like

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a thirty thousand dollars dollar golden slice of pizza type shiit?

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>What's the stupidest thing like that that you've seen.

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh damn, that's uh. I remember when I was when

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I was in school, there was this one girl in

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 4>my class that had a birthday party. She threw a

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:22.800
<v Speaker 4>birthday party, and uh, first start, I was not invited

0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:24.840
<v Speaker 4>to this birthday party. I just heard, like, you know,

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 4>some people that went to it. Uh huh. So uh,

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, when you're a kid, you give like goodie

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 4>bags at the birthday parties to all your guests, you know,

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 4>thank you for coming. Yeah, those goodie bags they had

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 4>iPads in them, like the new way.

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, were you?

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean yeah, I did get a little bit of fomo.

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 4>But you know, if I'm being real, I didn't really

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 4>know this girl that well, so of course you know

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't be me.

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>What's what's like the stupidest thing you've just seen advertised

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>on the street.

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 4>The stupidest thing I've seen advertised? Yeah, oh oh, that's

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 4>hard to say. I mean they don't really like they're

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 4>not that stupid of their advertising here. I think it's

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 4>it's still it's it's very similar to what you would

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 4>see in like any metropolitan city. I mean, I remember

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 4>this isn't on the street. This is like in a

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 4>shopping wall. But there's just like this one phone shop,

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 4>like it's a brand, and they specialize in making phones

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 4>that are like you know, essentially like timped out. Like

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, the new iPhone comes out, they'll like take

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 4>it to their workshop and encrusted with like gold and

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 4>diamonds and shit, and then just sell it for like

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, like ten times workup, and some people, I'm

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:51.839
<v Speaker 4>ironically buy that shit.

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Hmmm.

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever bought any like stupid luxury stuff or

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not that it doesn't sound like that's your it's

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 1>your taste.

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 4>Uh, I mean, yeah, I'm pretty like, uh, I'm pretty cheap.

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.319
<v Speaker 4>I can't lie. Like if if it's for someone's gift,

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll like, you know, I'll get something that's luxurious. But

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 4>if it's for myself, like I mean, you know, if

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm being completely honest, like I know where to find

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.960
<v Speaker 4>good fakes of shit if I really want luxury things.

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 4>But I don't really wear like designer clothes or anything

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 4>like that. I don't really like uh yeah, I mean

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I do, like like a good hotel or like a

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 4>good like uh you know, spat day or some shit

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 4>like that. Uh, but if it's something that's just like

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 4>like fully materialistic, then yeah, this is really my sort

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 4>of thing.

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>What's the stupidest thing your rich friends have bought?

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Hmm? My friends don't really buy dumb shit. I mean

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 4>sometimes they'll pay like dumb amounts some money for convenience,

0:55:54.960 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 4>but like they don't really like buy stupid shit. I mean,

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 4>I have this one aunt that I don't even know

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 4>if I should I should say this. They basically, like

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 4>some people that we know, spend like a buck ton

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.279
<v Speaker 4>of money just to park a private jet, Like more

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 4>money than I make in a month. They'll spend in

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 4>a day just to park this jet, which is crazy

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 4>to whoa. But I don't think that's even that stupid though,

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 4>because you know, if you own it, I guess you

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 4>have no choice. I mean, owning a private jet, you know,

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:35.320
<v Speaker 4>by itself a lot of like you know, moral and uh,

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 4>I guess practical questions you got to ask yourself. But

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna park your private jet, I mean, you

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 4>have no choice but to park it in that expensive place.

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Dude, what's your name again?

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 4>Uh? I don't even think I said it. My name

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 4>is Omar, Omar, Omar.

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been talking for over half an hour,

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm realizing I never really asked you. And it's

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>okay if you actually just wanted to talk. But was

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>there a specific reason why you called me today?

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 4>I honestly, I just saw your Instagram stories saying that

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 4>you were taking calls and I figured I may as

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 4>well give it a shot, swag. This was a specific reasons.

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 4>I just want to talk about, like working shit.

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:26.919
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I hope you find some form of clarity

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in life. I wish i'd do. Here's the thing, man, is,

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like I wish I had better answers for you because

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go like, I don't know, man.

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm down to go all Gary Vee and be

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like you should fucking quit your job and learn how

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to drop ship soap or whatever it is. But I

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, I don't know. It's life hits you hard.

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But I do have this. I mean, I got a

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit of survivors whatever, but it's still a bit

0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of a belief that, like, if you want to figure

0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 1>out some alternative way to live your life, it's out

0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>there for the taking. Should you, uh, should you really

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 1>desire it. I don't know what that looks like for you, though,

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you have an idea of what that would look

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>like for you?

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Couldn't tell you, Man, couldn't tell you. I mean, it

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 4>just compolds me being comfortable and in some like random

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 4>place around the world. Probably not, you're though, mm hmm.

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's the that's the dream everywhere is

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like every the dream is to fucking the dream is

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>always to leave.

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>There's people who are like coming from like uh uh,

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like developing countries that are like, oh, the dream is

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to go to America, And there's people in America where

0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like the dream is to go to a developing country

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 1>where it's cheaper. Like I feel like a dream is

0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 1>always to leave, no matter where you are.

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's becoming a more common thing nowadays that

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 4>people in developed countries want to go to developing countries

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 4>so that they can live with like you know, they

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:08.920
<v Speaker 4>can just sort of live on a shoe string budget

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 4>and still live nicely. Yeah, but I'm like kind of uh,

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 4>I guess opposed to that idea just because I don't know,

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I've seen a lot of people like that, Like, yeah,

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you've been to like Thailand or

0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 4>like Bali before. But there's just a lot of people

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 4>out there, like Westerners, that they live that sort of life,

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:36.120
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think the locals particularly like those kinds

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:36.959
<v Speaker 4>of people that much.

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. No, I can't see why. I can't see

0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>why they would. I mean, yeah, people in general don't like, uh, well,

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because like, well it's the whole thing. It's funny,

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing of like you know, when white people

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 1>do it, it's like expat and then like when people

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 1>move to the US, they're immigrants and it's like there's

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:09.880
<v Speaker 1>no real difference. Yeah, but uh, I don't know, it's

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an attractive thing. It's like the American dream

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 1>now is to like leave America and yeah, go to

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:19.000
<v Speaker 1>go to somewhere where your dollar can go farther. But

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that's like. In Dubai, it seems like,

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it seems like you have uh.

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, I.

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You seem like you have like you got your family

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 1>and you got your friends there, so it seems like

1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you have at least that version of life pretty pretty

1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 1>well there. Mhm.

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 4>That's true. At least I have people around me, you know,

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean, life does get like a lot more like

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 4>depressing when you're doing on any way around you.

1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's the only thing. I mean, it's not the

1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:53.560
<v Speaker 1>only thing, but it's the most important thing.

1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like even if the people around you and your

1:00:57.080 --> 1:01:01.440
<v Speaker 4>parents drive you crazy, like you know, I I don't know,

1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:04.640
<v Speaker 4>it does kind of be being alone, but sometimes.

1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't, no, because you have you sound like you

1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of friends in Dubai, Like you get

1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.000
<v Speaker 1>drunk with your bodies on the weekends.

1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, yeah, how many guys are there?

1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:18.560
<v Speaker 1>How many guys are there?

1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:23.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't like I guess, like if I'm

1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:26.880
<v Speaker 4>talking like like close friends, I don't know, I'd say

1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 4>I have like six.

1:01:27.600 --> 1:01:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Or seven That's what I do have, like a lot

1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 1>of And you have a lot of aquaincess too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of acquaintances, A lot of people that, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm chill with. But I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 4>really like do much other than like you know, see

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<v Speaker 4>them when I like leave the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're struggling with the money thing and with

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<v Speaker 1>like the job thing. But dude, at twenty six years old,

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<v Speaker 1>if you live somewhere where you have six close friends

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're chill with a bunch of other people,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you're doing fucking great. Like that's that's a lot, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do believe that because as you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>it's as you get older and like you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>people spread out and you kind of find yourself on

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<v Speaker 1>your own and stuff, like having those homies is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that keeps you grounded in fucking reality. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you that's what you want. So so it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds fucking corny, and I'm not saying it like makes

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<v Speaker 1>up for all things, but like you, if you you

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<v Speaker 1>should at least like, like, I hope you feel rich

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<v Speaker 1>in that. Oh God, that sounded so fucking corny, but

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<v Speaker 1>but I really do. I really am, Like I really

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded so fucking corny, but I really do feel like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a strong that's a strong blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it. I got it. I mean like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you say it sounds corny, but you know, conventional wisdom

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<v Speaker 4>is conventional for reason. You know, it's because it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of works.

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<v Speaker 1>Omar you said your name was Yeah, it's been nice

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<v Speaker 1>talking man. I appreciate you calling man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks for picking up man. I was really suppressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I had a YouTube channel. I would plug it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't really post on it much anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you posting? What were you making?

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<v Speaker 4>I was I guess you're just posting content where I yap.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the channel name is literally omar is Yapping,

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<v Speaker 4>but I haven't posted on that in like a year.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean, I look back at the content I

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<v Speaker 4>made and I don't even like. I look at it

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<v Speaker 4>think yeah, this kind of sucks. Could do better, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I feel like if I can't do

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<v Speaker 4>it consistently, then maybe it's not for me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>M Well, can I see it? What's what's the name?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, it's called It's actually just called omar is Yapping.

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube batcom slash omar is yeah, ping, let's see four

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<v Speaker 1>or four are not founds?

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>Might google it or I'm gonna YouTube search.

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<v Speaker 4>I will share this with anybody. Man. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>why I go so comfortable in this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even I mean, I can't really find it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know, it's it's still it's still out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure, at least for Omar O M A R.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait there you are, yeah, there you are. There are

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<v Speaker 1>exposing my deepest, darkest secrets. For cloud is that you Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem like you regret telling me about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, I think it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>like what's the point of making content if you can't

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<v Speaker 4>tell anybody that you make content? But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't. I really I don't want people to

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<v Speaker 4>like that, I know, to know that know about it,

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, like who fucking cares?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's really like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I haven't posted on in the year anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait look at that. Wait, hold on, wait, brother, hold on, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to talk because you have a thumbnail here.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a video that says embrace the cringe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know the thing that I was. I was

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<v Speaker 4>in that mindset a year ago, and now I like,

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<v Speaker 4>I I look at that and I think, like, now, like,

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<v Speaker 4>who the fuck am I to be telling people to

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<v Speaker 4>embrace the cringe? Because I'm you know, very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>So then so why not why not take this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to return to your roots and embrace the cringe.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the thing. It's just kind of hard

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<v Speaker 4>when you're in this sort of like uh I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that that's the sort of environment I'm in. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody just sort of like it's always like looking for

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<v Speaker 4>things to talk about. Uh So, for example, if if

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<v Speaker 4>if somebody that you know it was to have a

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube channel, you know, people would like joke about it

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<v Speaker 4>and just like have to have something to say about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, who fucking cares the

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<v Speaker 4>people like that think.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it does hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>It does hurt a little bit. Does hurt a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I just commented on it, I said, embrace the cringe.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for this comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Subscribing, I subscribe. I hope you put out a new video.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Thank you so much, Lyle. I appreciate it. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I can't I can't believe I'm talking to you, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe kept it. I can't believe I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>managed to trip over my words or make myself sound

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<v Speaker 4>like an idiot for the last half an hour or However, longing.

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<v Speaker 1>To speaking professional yapper Omar.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm no, I would say, I'm an I'm sure yapper.

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<v Speaker 1>Good enough. It's it's been good talking to you, Omar.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you sharing everything with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's good talking to you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you, Lowe Hey, love me too, brother. You take care,

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<v Speaker 1>Sue see Omar, that was Omar, good guy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>usually tell people I love them back, but I felt

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<v Speaker 1>it in that moment. I did. I felt it in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment Omar, Omar, Omar touched me. He seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy. Got check out. Omar is yapping on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone go on his channel and tell him to keep

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<v Speaker 1>making videos. Hello everyone, thank you very much for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Therapy Gotical podcast. I'm going to end today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode by reading one piece of gek mail is email

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<v Speaker 1>that was sent to me a gecko that I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to read. So I'll read this one piece of

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<v Speaker 1>viewer email first, and then you guys can go. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can go right now. I'm not this isn't school,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, we'll do this and then we'll end the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is from Jamie. Subject line catfishing people made

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<v Speaker 1>me transgender. I don't know where this is going, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's read it well and then we'll find out. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Wise Lizard of the Computer, Hello Jamie. I'm Jamie for now,

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<v Speaker 1>but as the title may suggest, that is subject to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into it, I should mention I do

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<v Speaker 1>have a therapist, and he's great, but I need someone

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<v Speaker 1>a bit fucking being crazy who can look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and acknowledge it for the mess that it is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I am honored to be that person who's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>fucking crazy. About four years ago, I started college, recently

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<v Speaker 1>out of COVID. Everyone's been inside for ages and it

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<v Speaker 1>was hard to break the ice. So I did what

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<v Speaker 1>any well adjusted person would do, and I made a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of accounts on dating sites, posing as a chick,

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea being that the experience would bring some

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<v Speaker 1>funny stories to help me talk to the people around

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<v Speaker 1>me and make some friends, and for what it's worth,

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<v Speaker 1>it did. However, somewhere down the line, I found myself

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying it a little more than for how I had

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<v Speaker 1>initially intended. I felt comfortable for the first time possibly

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I felt connected, even at two am,

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<v Speaker 1>when I really should have been sleeping parentheses. I failed

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<v Speaker 1>college over this, btw, So I took a step back.

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<v Speaker 1>I assessed my situation and I went, huh, what a coincidence,

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<v Speaker 1>and just ignored it like a fucking champ. But then

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<v Speaker 1>calamity struck. All the accounts got banned and I was

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<v Speaker 1>left with nothing. I just had to make do with

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<v Speaker 1>the stories I had collected and told thus far. But

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it. And when I thought about missing it,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized it wasn't the stories I collected that I missed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was the moment to moment interactions and being

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<v Speaker 1>seen in that way. So I took another look at

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<v Speaker 1>myself and went, huh, well, I guess there's nothing I

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<v Speaker 1>can do. But around this time, I started seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>therapist because my grades suck and I kept falling asleeping class.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to talking about things, and at this point

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that my issues stemmed from just enjoying. My

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<v Speaker 1>issues stemmed further than just enjoying how the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the dating app saw me, but also hating how people

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<v Speaker 1>in person saw me. That's when the idea of being

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<v Speaker 1>transgender fully fledged in my mind. But there's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>signific problem with all this the way I found out

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<v Speaker 1>about the about all this myself is objectively immoral, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might also be a little bit illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it illegal? I don't know if that's illegal. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's necessarily illegal to pretend to be

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<v Speaker 1>someone you or not on a dating app.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's like a hinge law uh. That

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like I don't deserve this. Maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit who should suffer hating their body,

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<v Speaker 1>mind and voice until the end of days as a

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<v Speaker 1>punishment for being a bad person. But then I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be a good person and do good things if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not comfortable in the world. It's a real fucking mess, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I wanted to write you, because so

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<v Speaker 1>many people these days are so afraid of putting foot wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and all they want to do is put you in

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<v Speaker 1>some fucking reinforcement chamber so they look like better people.

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<v Speaker 1>I need the advice of someone real as fuck, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of anyone realer than the lizard guy

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<v Speaker 1>who talks to crazy people on the internet. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, a wise lizard man? The moral of

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<v Speaker 1>the story, I guess is, don't believe everything you see

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<v Speaker 1>online and sometimes you gotta do it for the lore ps.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were an item in the fortnight Shop, I

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<v Speaker 1>would buy you. Well, Jamie, Uh, listen, there's nothing wrong, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you Jamie, what's going on? Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're such a terrible person. I'm goanna, Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>were fucking around on the dating apps pretending to be

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. You realize that you kind of liked what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like being perceived as a woman. You realize, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever, this is how you found out that

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<v Speaker 1>you were trans You know, it's not it's not insane

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<v Speaker 1>that this is how you found out. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest. I think there's things around this

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps that are indicators of I don't insanity as is

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<v Speaker 1>quite a word, but there's there's things around this where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, making smurf dating accounts, this thing

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, I went on dating sites posing as

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<v Speaker 1>a chick so I would have funny stories to tell people,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the way I'm going to make connections with others.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only part of me, that's the main part

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<v Speaker 1>of this that feels crazy to me, not like like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>If this is the way you found out that you

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<v Speaker 1>prefer being seen as a woman, that's that's fine. The

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<v Speaker 1>crazy thing is this idea that like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>have crazy stories in order of like fucking with people

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet in order to connect with people. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where your logic is flawed. I actually feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>will help. That makes you connect with people less, because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, Jamie, is you're gonna connect with people

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<v Speaker 1>because you're taking interest in them, not because like like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in a conversation with someone and you just

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<v Speaker 1>keep telling you're like, oh, the way to have if

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<v Speaker 1>you are following a line of logic that's telling you

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<v Speaker 1>the way to connect with someone and have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with them is to pretend to be a woman on

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<v Speaker 1>a dating app and then fuck with guys and have

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<v Speaker 1>weird stories about it. You're you're not gonna connect with

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<v Speaker 1>that person at all. You're just gonna be a wall

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself. You're gonna tell these people a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>stories that they don't care about, and you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna be like, Oh, that person doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to connect with people. They're just gonna tell me

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<v Speaker 1>these stories you know that they're just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>a wall of themselves that's not really connecting. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>like throwing your existence at somebody. So my advice to

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<v Speaker 1>you is to you know, next time you're in a conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>don't bring any of this shit it up. Ask them

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<v Speaker 1>how they're doing, you know, say something like, hey, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any have you been doing anything interesting lately?

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they say no, not really say oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything you'd like to be doing? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>just keep back, like ask them questions. If someone was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to me about like fucking with people on dating

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<v Speaker 1>apps and like they just brought it up and they

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<v Speaker 1>just kept talking about it, I would listen to them

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<v Speaker 1>because I would be curious for sure, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk away from that feeling like I connected with another person.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my two cents is, you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be interesting, you have to be interested Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, congrats on finding out that your trans

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's inherently crazy. I need the advice

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<v Speaker 1>of someone real as fuck, and I can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>anyone realer than the lizard guy who talks to crazy

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<v Speaker 1>people on the internet.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a little bit crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>We all are. Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd buy you if you were an item in the

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<v Speaker 1>Fortnite shop, just kidding, I wouldn't. I don't play Fortnite.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything more productive to say. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been therapy Gecko. Thank you guys for joining. If you

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<v Speaker 1>live in the city of Tokyo, Japan, I am doing

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<v Speaker 1>a show at my favorite comedy club in Japan, the

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<v Speaker 1>If so, maybe you're off work and you want to come.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also doing thirty other shows across America in many

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<v Speaker 1>places all over the America, some places in Canada, Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal.

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<v Speaker 1>I have some material that I'll be doing. I have

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<v Speaker 1>some group Gecko therapy sessions that I'll be conducting and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a good time. I hope you show up

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<v Speaker 1>Therapy geckotour dot com or check the link the episode description. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been therapy Getcko. My name is Lyle. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys as always for listening, and see you folks

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<v Speaker 1>in a few days. Get bless goes on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Line taking your phone calls every night de re Bek

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<v Speaker 3>goes doing his ride.

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<v Speaker 1>He's teaching you loud on the memor of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Money's not ready.

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<v Speaker 3>An expert