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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, it's Lyle. Welcome to the Therapy Gecko podcast.

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Speaker 1: Just really quick before we get into the episode, want

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Speaker 1: to remind everybody the tickets are currently on sale right

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Speaker 1: now at Therapy Gecko tour dot com for my upcoming

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Speaker 1: we actually just added a show in a couple weeks

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Speaker 1: in Tokyo, Japan. So if you happen to be in Tokyo,

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Speaker 1: Japan on March twenty second, and you want to come

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Speaker 1: you happen to be in any major city in the

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Speaker 1: US and a few other cities, no offense to those cities.

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Speaker 1: But if you if you're in the US, you're in Canada,

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Speaker 1: you're in Tokyo, please go to Therapy Gecko Tour dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a bunch of shows. I'm gonna be telling stories,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing live Gecko therapy for the fourth

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Speaker 1: time around, and I'm very excited about this tour. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited for the material that I've got, I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: engage with the community, and I think you guys should

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Speaker 1: come to the shows. It'll be a good time. Please

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Speaker 1: go to therapy geckotour dot com right now to get tickets,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're in Tokyo. We just added that show.

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Speaker 1: It's in a couple of weeks, and I would love

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Speaker 1: to see some of the Tokyo Gecko listeners out there. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Let's get into the episode. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'll holy shit. How you going?

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Speaker 1: How am I going? I'm going good man. You're from Australia,

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Speaker 1: from the accent and thew you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to say a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 3: my girlfriend messaged you on Instagram and asked you for

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Speaker 3: a birthday wish, and you sent a really nice message.

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Speaker 1: Oh what did I say that?

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Speaker 4: Out of breath?

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Speaker 3: I'm freaking out. I don't know you said your classic thing.

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Speaker 3: We're like, I hope you guys end up in the

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Speaker 3: Kingdom of Heaven together. I know you don't believe in

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Speaker 3: that Christianity, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know the Kingdom. I believe vaguely in a version of

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Heaven. Wait, this was a couple of

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Speaker 1: months ago.

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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah in October last year.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, cool, cool.

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Speaker 3: You said you were like on the subway or something.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I never thought you'd get a response, and

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Speaker 3: she surprised me with it, which was crazy. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to save but no, it was really cool, dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm really I'm not that clouded up anymore. I'm just

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Speaker 1: like on the subway, just like us. Maybe I'm stoned,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like sometimes I'm stoned. Like I look at Instagram, right,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'm stoned and I'll see like a message and

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Speaker 1: it's like, can you wish me a happy birthday? And

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, why the fuck wouldn't I do? Like,

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Speaker 1: why just do it? Why not? Why am I so?

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Speaker 1: Why am I being so precious about this? Let's just

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Speaker 1: do it? And so I do it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're a real fucking human being, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, a cryan, not a.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you that. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: There, what's your what's your name? You told me already?

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Speaker 1: Finn again, Finn Finn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude, I've been listening for like years. When

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Speaker 3: I when you came to Australia, I think it was

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Speaker 3: like twenty twenty three, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 3: I had been listening for like a year and a

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Speaker 3: bit and I was so mad. I was like, you

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Speaker 3: came about like just before I turned eighteen, so I

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Speaker 3: couldn't go. So I'm subscribed to all of the all

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Speaker 3: of the notifications. If you ever come back, I'll be

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Speaker 3: first one in line, hopefully cool.

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Speaker 1: I could see myself doing another Australia run at some point,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. It was all it's dude, that's that's the toughest.

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Speaker 1: Have you been to the States?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm maybe going on New Years. I got some

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Speaker 3: family over there, and I think Texas.

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Speaker 1: go to. But I liked. I liked Australia. Australia is

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Speaker 1: like if you combined, dude, you know what's crazy is Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like Americans pretty much, but it's like

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Speaker 1: how Australia came to be. I mean, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: And now there's Australia.

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing about Australia is they literally sent over

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Speaker 3: you know we did the classic thing where we you know,

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Speaker 3: destroy millions of years of culture obviously because so white

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Speaker 3: of Islanders because you know we're right, yeah, next to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, because you guys are really close to

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Speaker 3: and we're like, like, honestly, most of most most Australians

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Speaker 2: For cheap holidays. So if you got there, you got

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Speaker 2: you go to Bali.

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Speaker 3: It's in the middle of Indonesia. It's mostly Australians on

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Speaker 1: So, Finn, you texted me and you said, I would

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Speaker 1: like to talk about how my mom owes me forty

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Speaker 1: talk to me about it. What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, shit.

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Speaker 2: I haven't.

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Speaker 3: I've only told my girlfriend and obviously my family about this.

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Speaker 2: So basically, a long time.

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Speaker 3: Ago, like I would have been about five and I'm

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Speaker 3: my mom when I was about sixteen, proposed to me

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Speaker 3: I'd rather my mum take that money than you know,

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Speaker 3: lemon off, you're going to blow down. I'm speaking really absoletely.

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Speaker 1: Please, you're doing you're doing, You're doing perfectly fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fastwood.

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Speaker 3: When I graduated high school, she well, I graduated high school,

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Speaker 3: In America, you're like twenty one to drink. I don't

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Speaker 3: My mom's a teacher and when I turned eighteen, she

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Speaker 3: Like it's an eleven hour drive from me and it's

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Speaker 3: still in like the same state, which is weird. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: basically her and my little brother, my little brother's sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to him if he's listening, love you anyway,

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Speaker 3: and it was like, look, she was a single mother

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Speaker 3: was like, look, if you need to go do that,

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Speaker 3: that's fine. I will take over the mortgage of the

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Speaker 3: she had used that forty grand to buy. Anyway, I'll

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Speaker 3: cut it short, I know, not trying to take up

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Speaker 3: all your time. But yeah, she went out there. Things

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Speaker 3: going great for her. She's dating this guy met through

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Speaker 2: A lot of different ways.

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Speaker 3: But basically when she moved away, which was about which

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Speaker 3: six months, I would call her like, you know, most

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Speaker 3: the guy and I try to call her, but every

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Speaker 3: And then when she does pick up or I call

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Speaker 2: Oh no, she's like, oh, I'm busy.

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Speaker 3: Or I try to call her and she's like, sorry,

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Speaker 3: And I think it's been a couple of months and

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Speaker 3: was like, look, you know about that forty grand.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to have.

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Speaker 3: A conversation about it, because it's obviously not no money,

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Speaker 3: like I'm a I'm a university student, paying rent, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's you know, not not easy to do that.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, look, if I could have some assistants,

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Speaker 3: that'd be great. I don't want I don't expect forty

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Speaker 3: grand in my bank account the next day because I'm

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Speaker 3: not an idiot, but you know, if we could work

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Speaker 3: something out. And that was about three months ago, and

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Speaker 3: I've gone through to her guess and both times she's like, look,

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Speaker 3: I just need another week. And kind of the reason

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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to you was just because you know,

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Speaker 3: it's fucking it's the therapy, Get go.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to the therapy.

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Speaker 4: Get go.

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Speaker 3: But also like it's becoming to a point with me

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Speaker 3: where my relationship with her is causing me a lot

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Speaker 3: of anger. And you know, I'm lucky to have an

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Speaker 3: amazing partner who I can talk to us about talk

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Speaker 3: about this with. But it's like, do I keep calling

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Speaker 3: her and keep getting angry and you know, feeling down

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Speaker 3: about my relationship with my mother? Just so with the

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Speaker 3: hope I can you know, have a good relationship one

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Speaker 3: day and also get this forty grand back? Or is

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Speaker 3: it like it is causing a strain on me where

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Speaker 3: I just need to cut it off or take a

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Speaker 3: step back.

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Speaker 2: Or like you know, very very strongly worded email.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to you know, forgive me. If you've

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Speaker 1: explained this, I'm trying to write my head around it. So,

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Speaker 1: your auntie passed away and left you and your sibling.

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Speaker 1: You and your brother h forty grand collectively.

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Speaker 3: Forty grand each, so is about one hundred grand. But

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Speaker 3: you know we got twenty grand. You know you need

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Speaker 1: So it was so legal, so legally, legally, legally, legally,

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Speaker 1: legal standpoint on this? Right? Because if your mom like

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Speaker 1: Or like what's like, what's going on? Is why is she?

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Speaker 1: Why is it? Why? You said you were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Well she is?

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Speaker 1: Why why why shouldn't Why should it not appear your

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Speaker 3: I definitely don't think she's the type of person to

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's the type of person. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably, dude, I'm this is crazy. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: This is like your mom. Okay, so dude, this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Tell your mom to is your fucking money, tell her

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean it comes from a thing where it's like

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Speaker 3: I get that money back. I don't want to just

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Speaker 1: I get you. You're you don't want to send like

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Speaker 3: I think it would have been about six to eight

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Speaker 3: now that I actually use my fucking brain and have

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What is going on meeting? I need another week to

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Speaker 1: do what.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The money was talking to her lawyers, but I don't know,

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Speaker 3: like I I mean, I'm like a dumb ass nineteen

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Speaker 3: guess I could go speak to a lawyer about it.

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Speaker 2: I've heard you.

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Speaker 3: Give the I fucking speak to a lawyer and I guess, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like well, so like, dude, what's your I'm having trouble

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Speaker 1: understanding your relationship with your mom? Like so you're out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the they're moved like eleven twelve hours away

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Speaker 3: So basically I turned eighteen and she took my little

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Speaker 1: What's your you said, You've been talking to your girlfriend

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Speaker 1: about this? What's she say? She probably knows? Does she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's met my mom.

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Speaker 3: She she kind of I mean, she obviously comforts me

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Speaker 3: it is my money, and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: because you know, obviously.

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Speaker 2: I'm an adult.

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Speaker 3: I want to you know, get a nice place and

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Speaker 3: have you know, fucking steak for dinner and whatever. But

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Speaker 3: where it's like, look, you need to like stand on

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Speaker 3: because you can't be pushed around and just like accept it,

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Speaker 3: you know, but I think she mostly comes at a

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: No, I understand the roughness of the situation. But also

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Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, Man, your mom's pissing me off.

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Speaker 3: Dide, you gotta fly down to Australia to talk to her,

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Speaker 3: you instead of dude.

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Speaker 1: Maybe dude, maybe your mom's pissing me off. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like, why is she being so like in inaccessible.

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Speaker 3: She's she's she's also like, oh my god, this isn't

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Speaker 3: even like the thing, the main thing kind of like

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Speaker 3: don't mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So she's teacher with a boyfriend and a kid, and

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Speaker 3: she's also doing an online degree to like be a

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Speaker 3: higher level of a teacher. Anyway, I give her my

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Speaker 3: Netflix account password, and every time I call her, she's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm busy with school or your brother or boyfriend or whatever, right,

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Speaker 3: but I shoot you not. At least like two times

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Speaker 3: a week she will message me and say, hey, can

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Speaker 3: you reset the Netflix because you know, you can't like

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Speaker 3: can you reset the Netflix account. It's like, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: can sit down and watch Netflix, but you can't fucking

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Speaker 3: speak to a lawyer or pick up the phone and

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Speaker 3: call me, which is just the fucking cherry on top

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Speaker 3: that makes.

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Speaker 1: Ro bro Bro. What's your name.

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Speaker 2: Again, Finn, Finn, Finn, Finn bro Finn.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Finn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go go uh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So your mam has owed you this money for

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Speaker 1: at least eight weeks, correct.

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Speaker 2: Eight weeks since I've brought it up about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and when was the last time she asked you

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Speaker 3: If I put you on speaker, oh, opening the messages

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Speaker 3: up right now, okaym.

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Speaker 1: Uh Thursday this week she asked you on Thursday to

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Speaker 1: reset the Netflix. Yeah, what did Finn? Finn, Finn Finn, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did you fucking say, what did you did you

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Speaker 1: do it? Did you reset the Netflix?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: I just I think I left it on red. But

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Speaker 3: I might have done it and just forgotten about it,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't respond like, yeah, yeah, fucking.

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Speaker 1: I, Finn, tell her to pay you the fucking forty

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Speaker 1: th thousand dollars if she wants you to reset the net.

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Speaker 1: Who pays for the Netflix?

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 1: You pay for the Netflix? Yeah, Finn, Fenn, Finn, Finn,

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Speaker 1: kick your mom off of the Netflix account. Immediately kick

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Speaker 1: your mom off of that Netflix account immediately. Dude, What

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Speaker 1: the fuck If someone knows me forty thousand dollars, I'm

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Speaker 1: not letting them use my Netflix account?

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 1: The Netflix brother, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll just next time she sends she sends,

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Speaker 3: can you reset the Netflix? Polse it, I'll be like,

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Speaker 3: can you send the forty k that's please.

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Speaker 1: Dear God valid? Yes, of course that's valid. Then listen, Finn, honestly, dude,

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Speaker 1: can I be a finance dude? Okay? What you everything

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Speaker 1: you just told me about your mom using your Netflix

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Speaker 1: password and stuff, it's it's it's telling me exactly what

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Speaker 1: kind of like a guy you are and what like

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Speaker 1: your relationship with your mom is like, and you seem,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you're a nice you're a nice boy fan,

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Speaker 1: you're very you're you're a sweet nice boy. But you're

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Speaker 1: you're letting your mom uh for lack of a better uh, truly,

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Speaker 1: dick you down a little too hard, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of letting your mom dick you down a little too hard.

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Speaker 1: Your mom's kind of ugging man, And uh, you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't let your mom dick you down like this. Dude,

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Speaker 1: You guys stand up financial you you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: just call her every day and be like, listen, dude,

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Speaker 1: you gotta send me like you just gotta call her

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Speaker 1: every day and then at a certain point you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, all right, I gotta I gotta send the

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Speaker 1: fucking troops in. But she can't be using your Netflix

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Speaker 1: while you're waiting on this. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know what you've given me. You've actually given me

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Speaker 3: the inspiration to take action. I really appreciate you, man,

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Speaker 3: like a lot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, what are you gonna do tomorrow? Or I

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Speaker 1: don't know what time it is in Australia.

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Speaker 3: I'm about to go to sleep, but in between classes

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Speaker 3: and work, I will call her, or I will I mean,

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00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna call her. She's probably not going to

438
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 3: pick up, and then probably on Tuesday she'll send me

439
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: a request of fucking reason the Netflix past it, and

440
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: then I'll.

441
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 1: Just go due.

442
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 4: No.

443
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: When she says you're no, call her and be like

444
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: you got to call her and be like, I'll send

445
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: you the Eno fix pastor when you send me the

446
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: forty grand.

447
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'd say that's a pretty fair deal now that

448
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: I think about it.

449
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I want an update from you, Finn. I want send

450
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: me a text, or I might not see the text,

451
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: but give me another call at some point. I want

452
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: to I want an update on this. Send me a text.

453
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: I'll see the text, send me a text. I want

454
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: to know what. I want to know if you get

455
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: this forty come back. But I'm glad that this inspired

456
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: you to take action, because you can't let your mom

457
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: mug you like this.

458
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't go on like this.

459
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: Fuck all right?

460
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

461
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go, Finn?

462
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're ever struggling with mental health.

463
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: Everyone would always rather you reach out than do anything,

464
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: because no matter who you are, no matter where you are,

465
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 3: there's always someone who cares about you, and it's always better.

466
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: To reach out and speak to someone.

467
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: You're a nice You're a nice man. You're a sweet boy, Finn.

468
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Go get your go, get your forty thirs from your mom.

469
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: All right, take care of man, all right?

470
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: Go on?

471
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing, man, that's insane. Do Yeah, this guy's

472
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: mom sucks. Unfortunately, that's a bummer. I always feel bad

473
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: when callers tell me about their parents, and their parents

474
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: kind of suck. But yeah, man, it's at a certain point.

475
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 1: You got to reset the Netflix password.

476
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Wow, I should call back. This is like

477
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 4: my first time calling.

478
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: What's up?

479
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: Man?

480
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: You have the deepest voice I have ever heard in

481
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: my entire life. Do you think definitely positively that?

482
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've never liked the sound of my voice. I

483
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 4: feel like I sound high all the time. Those are

484
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: people always me?

485
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: Really? Uh so why don't why don't you? Why don't

486
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: you like your own voice? Oh?

487
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: No, I think it's because I have a weird accent

488
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 4: as well. Like, uh, I mean I never really grew

489
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: up in a place I like I'm some uh and uh,

490
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: my accent is kind of like a mix of everything.

491
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: Mmm, I you're calling.

492
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: Like I'm actually no, go ahead and guess just once.

493
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: All right? Uh, guess where you're from? Because you're calling

494
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: me from a non US number, So I'm curious where

495
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: you are right now. Uh, i'd see. I'm gonna guess

496
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: you're I'm not gonna guess somewhere specific, but I'm gonna

497
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: guess you're Eastern European.

498
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: Nah. I can give you a hint. It's it's a

499
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: country that's getting attacked right now.

500
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh are you from Venezuela?

501
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 4: Nah? Nah nah Dubai. I grew up here. Oh, not

502
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 4: really from here. You can't really say that though, because

503
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: it's kind of weird here because like basically you have

504
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: like locals like Amarzis are the people that are, like,

505
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: you know, from from here. Like ethnically, I'm just a

506
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: kid that grew up here, like you know, since I

507
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 4: was like three.

508
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm, where were you born?

509
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: So? I was born in the UK, but my parents

510
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: moved here when I was a kid. Well, ethnically I'm

511
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: not British.

512
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: Either, So what do you So you were born in

513
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: the UK, though ethnically that British raised in Dubai. Where

514
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: are your parents from?

515
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, my parents are Moroccan.

516
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: Mmm, okay, born to Moroccan parents in the UK and

517
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: then moved to Dubai. Yeah, you got your mix of

518
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: you're mixing up a lot of stuff.

519
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of a normal story here though, like

520
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: all my friends have the exact same kind of story

521
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: as I do.

522
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: So Dubai is a place where people are not born

523
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: and raised, they're they're moved. They moved there.

524
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, I mean

525
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: I have some friends that are born and raised here,

526
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: but like, you can be born and raised here, but

527
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 4: you're never like eligible for the citizenship because they're like

528
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: super protective about their nationality.

529
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: So wait what wait I'm I I sorry for my ignorance,

530
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: but Dubai is being attacked.

531
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so you know, since the US and the

532
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: and the Israel are attacking Iran at the moment, you know,

533
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 4: they're they're they're shooting at each other, they're you know, basically,

534
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: there are a lot of US military bases around the

535
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: Middle East, and uh, and I guess they think that

536
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 4: there are some targets in the UAE. So they're just

537
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: shooting a bunch of missiles here. But like, for the

538
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: most part, it's been pretty uh okay. I've you know,

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 4: you hear explosions that like every couple of hours, but like,

540
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: you know, nothing really that bad has happened. I mean,

541
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: a couple of people have died, but to be honest,

542
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: with the amount of artillery they've been sending our way,

543
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: I think it's been like, you know, pretty pretty good.

544
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of like people on the

545
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: internet saying that, you know, it's all propaganda. You know,

546
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: it's really bad over there. People are shooting their past.

547
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 4: They're like terrified. I don't think that's true, honestly, Like

548
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: I think for a lot of people, like life is

549
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: pretty okay. I say this. One of my friends called

550
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: me a couple of hours ago telling me about how

551
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: the building next to his got hit. But like, you know,

552
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 4: he he's fine, He's fine.

553
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Okay. What do you do in Dubai?

554
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: Uh so? I I work as a software engineer for

555
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: a really really weird company. Basically all of my coworkers

556
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: are Vietnamese, like all of them. This being said, like

557
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: I've I've worked sorry I've lived here most of my life.

558
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: Uh and I don't think I've ever met a Vietnamese

559
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: person here, And ever since I started working for this company,

560
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: I think I've met all the Vietnamese people here.

561
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: You've met every Vietnamese person in Dubai.

562
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: I'm I mean there's a high chance, like there are

563
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: a lot. There are a lot. Like I was really

564
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: like surprised, and like, you know, I've been to Vietnam.

565
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: I love the place. But I'm not gonna lie. The

566
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: work environment in this company has been like pretty uh

567
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: pretty you know, it's been pretty hectic.

568
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: How would you describe the Why is the work environment nuts?

569
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: I mean they don't really keep track of anything. There

570
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: are no uh you know, we don't really get like

571
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: official deadlines. They don't really write anything down. Everything is

572
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: just like really all over the place. And like I'm

573
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 4: me and like, I guess there are like ten other

574
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: people among like you know this like several hundred people

575
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: company or whatever. I mean in our team specifically, I

576
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: think there are like sixty people and ten of us

577
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: are not Vietnamese, and just you know, it's I guess

578
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: you feel kind of isolated in that environment where everyone

579
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: around you is speaking Vietnamese all the time, and like,

580
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of these guys don't really speak

581
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: very good English, so you know you're just kind of like,

582
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: you know, you try to communicate with them, but it's

583
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: kind of hard. Mmm.

584
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: How old are you?

585
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: I'm twenty six? Nice.

586
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: Are you gonna stay in Dubai? Is Dubai like your vibe?

587
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Or do you want to leave and go somewhere else?

588
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, man, To be honest, I

589
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: ask myself that every day. I did like live in

590
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: London a little while, and I guess I did like it.

591
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: You know, it was sort of nice, but it's hard

592
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: moving to a new city and like you know, you know,

593
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: readjusting making new friends and stuff I have. I like,

594
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: I have friends there still, but it's a completely different

595
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: vibe living in London and living here is a whole

596
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: different thing because it's like, I mean, you know, Dubai

597
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: is what you see on Instagram and stuff. There's a

598
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: lot of like, you know, it's it's really luxurious. It's

599
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: there are a lot of I guess cool buildings and

600
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: stuff you can see, but uh, you know, it does

601
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: feel kind of shallow a lot of the time. As well. Uh,

602
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: like it does attract a certain kind of person, and

603
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm that kind of person. Mmm.

604
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: So okay, I was gonna bring this up to you.

605
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: So Reddit always had there's always an ask Reddit thread

606
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: like this pops up like once a month and it

607
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: and it says like, where's the worst place you've ever

608
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: been in the world?

609
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: Number?

610
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and three places typically always show up. Uh, and

611
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I've never I've okay, so it's Dubai, Cairo, Egypt, and Paris.

612
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I've been. I went to Paris a while ago, but

613
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: I've never been to Cairo, never been to Dubai. Is

614
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: it as bad as people say?

615
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: No, No, not at all. Honestly, I think most people

616
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: that have never lived here, they could probably come and

617
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: live here for a couple of years and be fine.

618
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: Like I think, especially for somebody that's like a homebody,

619
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: this is a good place to be a homebody because,

620
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: you know, the food is great. You can get like

621
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 4: a lot, I guess, you can get like a lot

622
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: of luxury for quite cheap. You can like live in

623
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: a you know, a nice apartment for the same price

624
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: you pay for a shitty one in like America, and

625
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: you know, it's stays like even even with all this

626
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: shit happening, it's still a pretty safe place, Like you

627
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: can walk down the streets about worrying about getting like

628
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: you know, robbed or anything. Uh and uh, you know,

629
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: it's it's not that bad, but you do have to

630
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: kind of, like, I guess, look past a lot of

631
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: things because you know, you don't really get like I guess,

632
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: proper like freedom of speech here, you know. And I

633
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: mean I guess I'm used to just not saying anything

634
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: that might get me in trouble, but I've heard a

635
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: lot of stories about some people, you know, just like

636
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: telling someone the fuck off in traffic and next thing

637
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: you know, they're getting deported.

638
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: WHOA really.

639
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah that that stuff can happen here because I mean,

640
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: like in like Arab Islamic culture, I guess we take

641
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: like that sort of disrespect, like really seriously. I mean,

642
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: I'm not like that, but uh, you know a lot

643
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: of people can be like that here.

644
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Mmmmmm. And uh so what's your friend group?

645
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: Like?

646
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: Is it full of other like people who came to

647
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Dubai when they were really young and they all kind

648
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: of stayed. Are they all around still? Yeah?

649
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: Exactly? First, exactly. Yeah, But I guess the only thing is,

650
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: I guess this is such a dumb thing to say.

651
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: I hate I hate having a chip on my shoulder

652
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 4: about this. I mean, all my friends, like you know,

653
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: they're they they have super like super rich parents. Uh

654
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, like I'm privileged, Like I

655
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: got to grow up here. I mean, you know, it

656
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: was back when no one wanted to live here, but

657
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: I got to grow up here. My parents got like

658
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: were paid pretty decently. I didn't really, like, I guess,

659
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 4: need much when I was a kid, like I got,

660
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: I got a lot of video games, and you know,

661
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: to me, that was enough. But like the a lot

662
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: of the friends that I grew up with here, like

663
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: they live in a different world, you know, like they

664
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: don't they don't think about stuff like saving they don't

665
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: think about like they don't really need to think about

666
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: their future in the same way that I do, because

667
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 4: I guess they always have that safety net under them.

668
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: But for me, my parents are sort of broke at

669
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: this point, and I'm always sort of like just checking

670
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: myself trying to make sure that I'm like you know,

671
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 4: not uh not wasting my money, not wasting my time,

672
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: Like I just had a job interview like half an

673
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 4: hour ago, because you know, I'm just like I really

674
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: need to get out this company, but also I want

675
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: to get paid more like I really want to be

676
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: in a I guess I want to feel like I'm

677
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Speaker 4: not just surviving.

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Speaker 2: Mmmmmm, So.

679
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Speaker 1: Is that like I'm aware that that's like kind of

680
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: one of the cultural cultural things about Dubai is that

681
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: people there are very rich. You feel like, yeah, I.

682
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: Mean no, no, that's not that's not completely true like that.

683
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: So I mean you have people like me, like like

684
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: me and my friends, you know, we come from like

685
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: fairly like uh, I you know, well off in comparis

686
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: to families middle class to like just like stinking rich.

687
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: Uh and uh you know we we so we went

688
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: to private schools because here you have most people go

689
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: to private schools. Like the public schools are mostly like

690
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: taught in Arabic and they're like Arabic curriculum. Uh and uh.

691
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people's jobs will so if you're

692
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: a parent that moves here, your job will take care

693
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: of like the schooling for for a private school for

694
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: your kids. That isn't universal, but it happens a lot

695
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 4: so yeah, we went to a private school. Uh. Then

696
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: you know they're not like exactly the same as the

697
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: private schools you'll see like in America or like the UK,

698
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: but they're still like pretty good quality. And uh you know,

699
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: we we we got like university educations and stuff like that,

700
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: so we managed to get like decent paid jobs. Like

701
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: I make like like five thousand bucks a month doing

702
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: what I do, which is good for Dubai. Uh. And

703
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: then when you like look at like so we have

704
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: a lot of like delivery drivers and stuff like that

705
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: and like security guards and there's no real like minimum

706
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: wage here, so these guys make like I don't know,

707
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: like six seven hundred bucks a month. Uh, maybe a

708
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: little bit more, I don't know. Uh. And I mean

709
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 4: the cost of living is expense severe, so they have

710
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: to like you know, you know, like share rooms and

711
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: stuff like that and like really like slum it out.

712
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

713
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: But uh you know, uh for them, I guess it's

714
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: like it works for them because the money here goes

715
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: so much further in their home country mm hmm where

716
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: I mean. Sorry, I'm yapping a lot.

717
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh no no, no, please, please please keep going. I

718
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: just wanted to ask, like okay, the people who are

719
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: making like seven hundred bucks a month, Like where where

720
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: are they coming from? Like where what's their home country? Typically?

721
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: Uh, you know like East Asian countries, Southeast Asian countries,

722
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: South Asian countries, so like you know India and Nepal, Bangladesh,

723
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: the Philippines. You know a lot of people from those

724
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: countries because at the end of the day, you know,

725
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 4: living here, they still got a better quality of life.

726
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: But they still like you know, like a lot of

727
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: people will argue that, you know, they get so like

728
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: like really underpaid. Uh. But at the same time they

729
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: do make U I guess, Like for I guess if

730
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: they if they keep coming here, then it's enough. But

731
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: you know they have to put up with a lot

732
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: of like be a mm hm m hmm.

733
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your goal? Man? What's your what's

734
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: your whole thing? What are you trying to do? You're

735
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: looking for a new job. What if you could wave

736
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: a magic wand and be doing anything? What does your

737
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: life look like?

738
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: Not fucking working? Man? Like the ship. I can't do

739
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: this ship anymore? Man, Like with this job I could

740
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: I've just been like literally just going in every day checking,

741
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: like just checking the time. Like this is one episode

742
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 4: of The Sopranos. Where have you ever watched a surprise

743
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: I have?

744
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: I dude, I'm so TikTok brained. I just I couldn't

745
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: get past the opening credits where they're going across.

746
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: The Yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries, no worries. It's like, yeah, basically,

747
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 4: there's like this this guy that runs away from them

748
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: all because they're gonna kill him for being gay or

749
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: like embarrassing him because he's gay. Uh. And he goes

750
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: and like he's he's just working in some random, like

751
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: fucking small town in New England, like as a carpenter

752
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 4: or some ship. Uh. And they have this one scene

753
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: where he's just working like starts day, starts at nine,

754
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: and he just keeps checking the clock, keeps checking the clock,

755
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: keeps checking the clock, and then you know the clock

756
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: is just not moving. Uh. And he's just waiting for

757
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: his lunchtime. He keeps hearing him talk to himself like

758
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 4: oh yeah, a couple of minutes to lunch, lunchtime, a

759
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: couple of minutes to lunchtime, and then uh, you know,

760
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: all this suspense, all this build up and by the

761
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: time the clock hits twelve, he just bucks off back

762
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: to New Jersey and gets himself killed by the mall.

763
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: Because you just can't live a normal life. And that's

764
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: kind of how I feel, like I just can't. I

765
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 4: find it really hard to tolerate this, but I have

766
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: no choice, you know, like this is how the world works,

767
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 4: like in an ideal world, because I mean I did,

768
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: like a couple of years back, I quit my job,

769
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 4: my other job, and like I went traveling through Southeast

770
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 4: Asia for seven months, and you know, you know, best

771
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: experience in my life. Was a great time, got toe

772
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: tons of cool shit, but you know, you can't do

773
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: that stuff forever. I did eventually like run out of money,

774
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: and I guess I'm not really like I mean, with

775
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: what I do, I should be able to get a

776
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: remote job, but I don't like what I do either,

777
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: So I've just been sort of like stuck trying to

778
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: figure out what I can do that can make me

779
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: money that also gives me like you know, flexibility to

780
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 4: live like that. But uh, it's not so simple.

781
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: M Why was your time in Southeast Asia so good?

782
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: What were you doing? Was it just like the freedom?

783
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: Was it like the people you were meeting.

784
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of both. Uh, you know, freedom

785
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: was nice just being able to you know, just wake

786
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: up at like ten o'clock on a random Monday and

787
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: just like be like, oh, yeah, fuck you, bro, I'm

788
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: gonna climb this mountain then sandals and you know, just

789
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: doing that, almost dying the process, but still having a

790
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: good time. But like here, like living like this, you know,

791
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 4: all I can really look forward to is like getting

792
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: a drunk with my friends on the weekend. And yeah,

793
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: it's just not really that, like, I don't know, enriching.

794
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: I had to sound like one of those like you know,

795
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 4: like hippie type people, you know, talking down on other people, saying,

796
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I can't believe they live their lives like this.

797
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: But I genuinely, like I look at my friends, I'm like,

798
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: how how are you not bored? Yet? You know, I

799
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: find like a lot of this stuff really to be

800
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: like really like boring, But I still do it because

801
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: I don't really I mean, it's better than sitting at

802
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: home like rewatching you know, TV shows or like playing

803
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: video games or some shit.

804
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Are your friends having a similar dilemma as you or

805
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: are they able to tolerate normal life better than you are.

806
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I can't say for sure. I

807
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: do ask them, and some of them seem like they're

808
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: tolerating it quite well. But at the same time, you

809
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: hear them complain about things which you know you can

810
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: relate to. But I mean, I guess they're not looking

811
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: as much to get out of it because they have

812
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: a lot of things built around it, because you know,

813
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: a lot of my friends have like long term relationships.

814
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: They have like I got some friends that of like

815
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: trying to buy off houses and stuff, Like they're trying

816
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: to like start to pay for their mortgages and stuff

817
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: like that. Uh, so they can I guess, you know,

818
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 4: they can't really afford to hate what they have because

819
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: they do need to like lock in a little bit. Yeah,

820
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 4: but uh, I don't know. I mean, I think everyone

821
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: does go through the same thing kind of But I

822
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: don't know. I just I really, like, I really struggle

823
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: to be okay with it.

824
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Speaker 1: M m.

825
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: M.

826
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Speaker 1: Do you know anyone in your personal life who has

827
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: escaped the matrix, so to speak?

828
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a couple of people that have. I

829
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: mean one of some guy that I went to school with.

830
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: Uh he I mean, I don't really know what he does.

831
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: He stalls like automation courses on LinkedIn, and uh, you know,

832
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: like you know, power to him. I I don't have

833
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: it in me to do stuff like that, Like I

834
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: really like, I hate using LinkedIn. I hate that whole like,

835
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: you know, the whole culture of just sort of like

836
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 4: trying to gas yourself up professionally and fill your you know,

837
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: your CV with like random qualifications and stuff. But he's

838
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 4: doing well for himself. I mean, I know a couple

839
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 4: of people that, you know, they do freelance work, but uh,

840
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: I mean for the most part, most of the people

841
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: I know, they they just work like regular jobs. Mhm hm.

842
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Hmmm hmmm.

843
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's not an issue you have

844
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: to do with because you know, you just get to like,

845
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: you know, put the get go costume on and like

846
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 4: go wherever you want. Right.

847
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: It's true. I I I do live a bit of

848
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: a I do live a spoiled existence at this point

849
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: where I can uh kind of gecko around, you know.

850
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but problems are still problems, you know, Like I

851
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: feel I feel like when you're because you know, when

852
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 4: I like, I have some friends that they they'll complain

853
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 4: about like whatever problems they'll have, Like you know, again,

854
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: like I have some friends that are like super rich,

855
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: have nothing to worry about, and they'll complain about things,

856
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: and I don't. I don't really hate on people for

857
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 4: complaining about their problems because at the end of the day,

858
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: like your problem is a problem, Like just because you're

859
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 4: drowning under two feet of water doesn't mean you're still

860
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 4: like not drowning.

861
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, no, I'm with you. I mean everyone has problems,

862
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: right like I I. I Actually it's funny, man, I

863
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: used to kind of envision I definitely have done this

864
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: thing where I when I was a kid, I remember

865
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: like envisioning the lives of certain people that I looked

866
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: up to, and I kind of imagined what it would

867
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: be like to travel, or what it would be like

868
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: to live this kind of lifestyle, or what it would

869
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: be like to you know, get to be creative for

870
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: a living at this thing. And when I imagined all

871
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: those things, I imagined like a life where I, you know,

872
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: I didn't really have any problems, and there's I don't

873
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: think there's such a thing as a life with those problems.

874
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean they're kind of I mean no, there totally

875
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: is Actually I've totally met people before who have no problems.

876
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: And I'm also I also delusionally believe that, you know,

877
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: how like you can you can kind of keep delaying

878
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: happiness or like delaying your life to quote unquote start

879
00:46:54,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: until some certain set of external metrics are met. Over

880
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: and over and over again, people find that the fulfillment

881
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: of those external metrics does not really uh work. But uh,

882
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: I've I don't believe that. I actually totally still believe

883
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: despite how uh it's been proven counter over and over again,

884
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: I still kind of believe that I'm like this close

885
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: to a life without any problems. I just have to

886
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: fix a few things that.

887
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: Are like problem is, you know, can you give me

888
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: some what do.

889
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: I think my biggest problem is? Fuck, it's it's a role,

890
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: It's a rolodex of things. I mean, like I'd like

891
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: to be, uh, I'd like to be more aligned, you

892
00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean by that? Aligned with what just well,

893
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: like I'd like to be like living a life for

894
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: like every single day. I feel like I'm like aligned

895
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: with what I should be doing in the universe, which

896
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: I which does have I know, I know that like, uh,

897
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: there's no such thing. It's like what you should be doing.

898
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Like I know that we live in kind of an

899
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: open world, uh, free will whatever universe, but I feel

900
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: there's some times like in my gut, I can feel

901
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: when I'm aligned and how I'm currently spending the moment,

902
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: and I can feel in my gut when I'm like,

903
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: what we're doing right now?

904
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like those sort of things you do

905
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: like in your in your dates to day or like

906
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 4: you're weekly like streams or whatever you're doing.

907
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: There. I think that having this conversation with you right now,

908
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I feel aligned in the fact that we're doing this,

909
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: but it's not it doesn't feel like it's enough for me.

910
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't feel I always feel like I have to

911
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: be doing more or like it's not even that I

912
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: have to be doing it where it's like I was

913
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: want to be doing more shit.

914
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: But do you think it's like uh, I guess, uh,

915
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: sort of in the realm of what you're doing, Like

916
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: do you think like creating content is the sort of

917
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: thing that makes you feel like you're aligned with what

918
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: you should be doing, like or close to it.

919
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, making making things? But then

920
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: also I like being around people. And I guess the

921
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: content that I make inherently forces me to be around people.

922
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: So I guess i'd like to be I'd like to

923
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: be living my life more. I'd always like to be

924
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: living more intentionally. I mean I get I get swept away,

925
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: as we all do by like the phone, and you know,

926
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: weed and porn and life.

927
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, see those are problems we don't have so

928
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: much here because weed as illegal and porn is blocked

929
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: on everything.

930
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Really okay, what's the story with that? No porn at all?

931
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean can uh if you are a

932
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 4: criminal who you know, engages in illegal activities, you can't

933
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: use a VPM. Uh but I don't know about that.

934
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you don't.

935
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, drug is completely illegal. Like I know

936
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: some people that have just fully like disappeared after getting caught,

937
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: and you know that's enough for me to just never

938
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: want to try it here.

939
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Dude. It's interesting because Dubai seems I've never been, but

940
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: just my idea of it is it seems like a

941
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: cocainey city.

942
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah that that. I mean, I've definitely like, uh,

943
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: I've seen some people that, like, you know, like these

944
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: guys definitely have to be on code. But uh, I

945
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: never like, you know, I don't partake in it when

946
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure, Like I if I do drugs, I do

947
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 4: it in a you know, in a place where I'm

948
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: not going to get into like huge trouble for it,

949
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: like uh you know, but not here. Not here, like

950
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: alcohol is enough for me.

951
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, hmmm. Are they big drinkers over there? Do

952
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: they get Are they always getting sucked up?

953
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 4: Well, I mean not not the local people, because they

954
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: tend to be more uh you know, on the religious

955
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: side of the spectrum. Uh, but uh, you know a

956
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 4: lot of like me and my friends. Yeah, we always

957
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: get drunk every weekend. We're always drinking. Maybe not right

958
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: now because it's Ramadan, so you kind of you know,

959
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 4: I I'm trying to be good. I'm not I'm not

960
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: particularly religious, but uh, you know, I live with my parents,

961
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 4: so kind of feel like I have to do it.

962
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Is the Middle East in general kind of dry, Like

963
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's dry, obviously the climate is dry.

964
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, yeah, because when I was when

965
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: I was in Iraq, like, no, I don't I I

966
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: couldn't tell whether or not alcohol was legal, but I

967
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: never it was never sold anywhere.

968
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's usually they I mean I've seen that it

969
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: like when I went to Morocco. It usually sort of

970
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: operates under the like under a system where you know,

971
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 4: you don't serve it openly and broad daylight, but you

972
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 4: can still get it here as well. For the longest

973
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 4: time it was like that. But I guess in the

974
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 4: last couple of years since they opened up the tourists,

975
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: they've wanted to, I guess, make it, you know, it

976
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: make their image seem a bit more like western or friendly.

977
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 4: So now they have, like I guess, more more bars

978
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: and nightclubs and beach clubs and stuff like that that

979
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: are like pretty like you know out there in front

980
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 4: of you. You still can't advertise alcohol though, but you

981
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 4: know they're alcohol shops. Like I can walk ten minutes

982
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: down the road and go and buy a bottle of

983
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: vodka if I want. You know, what's a little bit

984
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: over priced but still good.

985
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: What's the stupidest like luxury thing you've seen in Dubai,

986
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: Like if you see like like shit like a like

987
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: a thirty thousand dollars dollar golden slice of pizza type shiit?

988
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: What's the stupidest thing like that that you've seen.

989
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: Oh damn, that's uh. I remember when I was when

990
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: I was in school, there was this one girl in

991
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 4: my class that had a birthday party. She threw a

992
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 4: birthday party, and uh, first start, I was not invited

993
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 4: to this birthday party. I just heard, like, you know,

994
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: some people that went to it. Uh huh. So uh,

995
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: you know, when you're a kid, you give like goodie

996
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: bags at the birthday parties to all your guests, you know,

997
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: thank you for coming. Yeah, those goodie bags they had

998
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: iPads in them, like the new way.

999
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, were you?

1000
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I did get a little bit of fomo.

1001
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: But you know, if I'm being real, I didn't really

1002
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: know this girl that well, so of course you know

1003
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be me.

1004
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1005
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: What's what's like the stupidest thing you've just seen advertised

1006
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: on the street.

1007
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 4: The stupidest thing I've seen advertised? Yeah, oh oh, that's

1008
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: hard to say. I mean they don't really like they're

1009
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: not that stupid of their advertising here. I think it's

1010
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: it's still it's it's very similar to what you would

1011
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: see in like any metropolitan city. I mean, I remember

1012
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: this isn't on the street. This is like in a

1013
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: shopping wall. But there's just like this one phone shop,

1014
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: like it's a brand, and they specialize in making phones

1015
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 4: that are like you know, essentially like timped out. Like

1016
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 4: you know, the new iPhone comes out, they'll like take

1017
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: it to their workshop and encrusted with like gold and

1018
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 4: diamonds and shit, and then just sell it for like

1019
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 4: you know, like ten times workup, and some people, I'm

1020
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 4: ironically buy that shit.

1021
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: Hmmm.

1022
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever bought any like stupid luxury stuff or

1023
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: that's not that it doesn't sound like that's your it's

1024
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: your taste.

1025
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, yeah, I'm pretty like, uh, I'm pretty cheap.

1026
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: I can't lie. Like if if it's for someone's gift,

1027
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: I'll like, you know, I'll get something that's luxurious. But

1028
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: if it's for myself, like I mean, you know, if

1029
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: I'm being completely honest, like I know where to find

1030
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: good fakes of shit if I really want luxury things.

1031
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 4: But I don't really wear like designer clothes or anything

1032
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 4: like that. I don't really like uh yeah, I mean

1033
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: I do, like like a good hotel or like a

1034
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: good like uh you know, spat day or some shit

1035
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: like that. Uh, but if it's something that's just like

1036
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 4: like fully materialistic, then yeah, this is really my sort

1037
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: of thing.

1038
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: What's the stupidest thing your rich friends have bought?

1039
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: Hmm? My friends don't really buy dumb shit. I mean

1040
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 4: sometimes they'll pay like dumb amounts some money for convenience,

1041
00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: but like they don't really like buy stupid shit. I mean,

1042
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 4: I have this one aunt that I don't even know

1043
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 4: if I should I should say this. They basically, like

1044
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: some people that we know, spend like a buck ton

1045
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: of money just to park a private jet, Like more

1046
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 4: money than I make in a month. They'll spend in

1047
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 4: a day just to park this jet, which is crazy

1048
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: to whoa. But I don't think that's even that stupid though,

1049
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: because you know, if you own it, I guess you

1050
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: have no choice. I mean, owning a private jet, you know,

1051
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 4: by itself a lot of like you know, moral and uh,

1052
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 4: I guess practical questions you got to ask yourself. But

1053
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 4: if you're gonna park your private jet, I mean, you

1054
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 4: have no choice but to park it in that expensive place.

1055
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1056
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: Dude, what's your name again?

1057
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: Uh? I don't even think I said it. My name

1058
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: is Omar, Omar, Omar.

1059
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking for over half an hour,

1060
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: and I'm realizing I never really asked you. And it's

1061
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: okay if you actually just wanted to talk. But was

1062
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: there a specific reason why you called me today?

1063
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 4: I honestly, I just saw your Instagram stories saying that

1064
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: you were taking calls and I figured I may as

1065
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: well give it a shot, swag. This was a specific reasons.

1066
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: I just want to talk about, like working shit.

1067
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I hope you find some form of clarity

1068
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: in life. I wish i'd do. Here's the thing, man, is,

1069
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: like I wish I had better answers for you because

1070
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to go like, I don't know, man.

1071
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm down to go all Gary Vee and be

1072
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: like you should fucking quit your job and learn how

1073
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: to drop ship soap or whatever it is. But I

1074
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't know. It's life hits you hard.

1075
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: But I do have this. I mean, I got a

1076
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: little bit of survivors whatever, but it's still a bit

1077
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: of a belief that, like, if you want to figure

1078
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: out some alternative way to live your life, it's out

1079
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: there for the taking. Should you, uh, should you really

1080
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: desire it. I don't know what that looks like for you, though,

1081
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: Do you have an idea of what that would look

1082
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: like for you?

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 4: Couldn't tell you, Man, couldn't tell you. I mean, it

1084
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: just compolds me being comfortable and in some like random

1085
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: place around the world. Probably not, you're though, mm hmm.

1086
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the that's the dream everywhere is

1087
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: like every the dream is to fucking the dream is

1088
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: always to leave.

1089
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1090
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: There's people who are like coming from like uh uh,

1091
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: like developing countries that are like, oh, the dream is

1092
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: to go to America, And there's people in America where

1093
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: like the dream is to go to a developing country

1094
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: where it's cheaper. Like I feel like a dream is

1095
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: always to leave, no matter where you are.

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00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it's becoming a more common thing nowadays that

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: people in developed countries want to go to developing countries

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: so that they can live with like you know, they

1099
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 4: can just sort of live on a shoe string budget

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00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: and still live nicely. Yeah, but I'm like kind of uh,

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00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: I guess opposed to that idea just because I don't know,

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of people like that, Like, yeah,

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been to like Thailand or

1104
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: like Bali before. But there's just a lot of people

1105
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 4: out there, like Westerners, that they live that sort of life,

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00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: and I don't think the locals particularly like those kinds

1107
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 4: of people that much.

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00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Probably not. No, I can't see why. I can't see

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: why they would. I mean, yeah, people in general don't like, uh, well,

1110
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: it's funny because like, well it's the whole thing. It's funny,

1111
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: the whole thing of like you know, when white people

1112
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: do it, it's like expat and then like when people

1113
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: move to the US, they're immigrants and it's like there's

1114
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: no real difference. Yeah, but uh, I don't know, it's

1115
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: it's it's an attractive thing. It's like the American dream

1116
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: now is to like leave America and yeah, go to

1117
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: go to somewhere where your dollar can go farther. But

1118
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's like. In Dubai, it seems like,

1119
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like you have uh.

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01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 4: Well, I.

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01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: You seem like you have like you got your family

1122
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: and you got your friends there, so it seems like

1123
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: you have at least that version of life pretty pretty

1124
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: well there. Mhm.

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01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: That's true. At least I have people around me, you know,

1126
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 4: I mean, life does get like a lot more like

1127
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: depressing when you're doing on any way around you.

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01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: Dude, it's the only thing. I mean, it's not the

1129
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: only thing, but it's the most important thing.

1130
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like even if the people around you and your

1131
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 4: parents drive you crazy, like you know, I I don't know,

1132
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 4: it does kind of be being alone, but sometimes.

1133
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't, no, because you have you sound like you

1134
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends in Dubai, Like you get

1135
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: drunk with your bodies on the weekends.

1136
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, how many guys are there?

1137
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: How many guys are there?

1138
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: I mean I don't like I guess, like if I'm

1139
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: talking like like close friends, I don't know, I'd say

1140
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: I have like six.

1141
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: Or seven That's what I do have, like a lot

1142
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: of And you have a lot of aquaincess too.

1143
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of acquaintances, A lot of people that, like,

1144
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: you know, I'm chill with. But I guess I don't

1145
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 4: really like do much other than like you know, see

1146
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 4: them when I like leave the house.

1147
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you.

1148
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: I know you're struggling with the money thing and with

1149
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: like the job thing. But dude, at twenty six years old,

1150
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: if you live somewhere where you have six close friends

1151
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: and then you're chill with a bunch of other people,

1152
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: that's you're doing fucking great. Like that's that's a lot, dude.

1153
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: I really do believe that because as you get older,

1154
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: it's as you get older and like you're kind of

1155
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: people spread out and you kind of find yourself on

1156
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: your own and stuff, like having those homies is the

1157
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: thing that keeps you grounded in fucking reality. You know,

1158
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: that's what you that's what you want. So so it

1159
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: sounds fucking corny, and I'm not saying it like makes

1160
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: up for all things, but like you, if you you

1161
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: should at least like, like, I hope you feel rich

1162
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: in that. Oh God, that sounded so fucking corny, but

1163
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: but I really do. I really am, Like I really

1164
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: it sounded so fucking corny, but I really do feel like, uh,

1165
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: that's a that's a strong that's a strong blessing.

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01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 4: I got it. I got it. I mean like, yeah,

1167
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: you say it sounds corny, but you know, conventional wisdom

1168
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 4: is conventional for reason. You know, it's because it kind

1169
01:02:59,240 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 4: of works.

1170
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: Omar you said your name was Yeah, it's been nice

1171
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: talking man. I appreciate you calling man.

1172
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for picking up man. I was really suppressed.

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01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1174
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

1175
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I had a YouTube channel. I would plug it,

1176
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: but I don't really post on it much anymore.

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: What were you posting? What were you making?

1178
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: I was I guess you're just posting content where I yap.

1179
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: I mean the channel name is literally omar is Yapping,

1180
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 4: but I haven't posted on that in like a year.

1181
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: And I mean, I look back at the content I

1182
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 4: made and I don't even like. I look at it

1183
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 4: think yeah, this kind of sucks. Could do better, But yeah,

1184
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like if I can't do

1185
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 4: it consistently, then maybe it's not for me. I don't know.

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01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: M Well, can I see it? What's what's the name?

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01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, it's called It's actually just called omar is Yapping.

1188
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: YouTube batcom slash omar is yeah, ping, let's see four

1189
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: or four are not founds?

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01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 4: Hold on?

1191
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: Might google it or I'm gonna YouTube search.

1192
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 4: I will share this with anybody. Man. I don't know

1193
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 4: why I go so comfortable in this.

1194
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: I can't even I mean, I can't really find it.

1195
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, it's it's still it's still out there.

1196
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, at least for Omar O M A R.

1197
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: Wait there you are, yeah, there you are. There are

1198
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: exposing my deepest, darkest secrets. For cloud is that you Yeah,

1199
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: you seem like you regret telling me about this.

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01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I think it's one of those things

1201
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 4: like what's the point of making content if you can't

1202
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 4: tell anybody that you make content? But at the same time,

1203
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 4: I really don't. I really I don't want people to

1204
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 4: like that, I know, to know that know about it,

1205
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: But at the same time, like who fucking cares?

1206
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: And you know, it's really like.

1207
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I haven't posted on in the year anyway.

1208
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: Wait look at that. Wait, hold on, wait, brother, hold on, Okay,

1209
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 1: we got to talk because you have a thumbnail here.

1210
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: You have a video that says embrace the cringe.

1211
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the thing that I was. I was

1212
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 4: in that mindset a year ago, and now I like,

1213
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 4: I I look at that and I think, like, now, like,

1214
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 4: who the fuck am I to be telling people to

1215
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 4: embrace the cringe? Because I'm you know, very uncomfortable.

1216
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: So then so why not why not take this opportunity

1217
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: to return to your roots and embrace the cringe.

1218
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing. It's just kind of hard

1219
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 4: when you're in this sort of like uh I mean

1220
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 4: that that's the sort of environment I'm in. You know,

1221
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 4: everybody just sort of like it's always like looking for

1222
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: things to talk about. Uh So, for example, if if

1223
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 4: if somebody that you know it was to have a

1224
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 4: YouTube channel, you know, people would like joke about it

1225
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 4: and just like have to have something to say about it. Yeah,

1226
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, who fucking cares the

1227
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 4: people like that think.

1228
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: But you know, it does hurt.

1229
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 4: It does hurt a little bit. Does hurt a little bit.

1230
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: I just commented on it, I said, embrace the cringe.

1231
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: Thank you for this comment.

1232
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: Subscribing, I subscribe. I hope you put out a new video.

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01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 4: All right, Thank you so much, Lyle. I appreciate it. Again,

1234
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: Like I can't I can't believe I'm talking to you, man,

1235
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 4: I can't believe kept it. I can't believe I haven't

1236
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: managed to trip over my words or make myself sound

1237
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: like an idiot for the last half an hour or However, longing.

1238
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: To speaking professional yapper Omar.

1239
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm no, I would say, I'm an I'm sure yapper.

1240
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: Good enough. It's it's been good talking to you, Omar.

1241
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing everything with us.

1242
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good talking to you as well.

1243
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: Love you, Lowe Hey, love me too, brother. You take care,

1244
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: Sue see Omar, that was Omar, good guy. I don't

1245
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: usually tell people I love them back, but I felt

1246
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: it in that moment. I did. I felt it in

1247
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: that moment Omar, Omar, Omar touched me. He seemed like

1248
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: a good guy. Got check out. Omar is yapping on YouTube.

1249
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: Everyone go on his channel and tell him to keep

1250
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: making videos. Hello everyone, thank you very much for listening

1251
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: to the Therapy Gotical podcast. I'm going to end today's

1252
01:07:54,040 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: episode by reading one piece of gek mail is email

1253
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: that was sent to me a gecko that I am

1254
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: going to read. So I'll read this one piece of

1255
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: viewer email first, and then you guys can go. I

1256
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: mean you can go right now. I'm not this isn't school,

1257
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: but yes, we'll do this and then we'll end the episode.

1258
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: So this is from Jamie. Subject line catfishing people made

1259
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: me transgender. I don't know where this is going, but

1260
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: let's read it well and then we'll find out. Hello,

1261
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: Wise Lizard of the Computer, Hello Jamie. I'm Jamie for now,

1262
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: but as the title may suggest, that is subject to change.

1263
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: Before we get into it, I should mention I do

1264
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: have a therapist, and he's great, but I need someone

1265
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: a bit fucking being crazy who can look at this

1266
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: and acknowledge it for the mess that it is. Okay,

1267
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: I am honored to be that person who's a bit

1268
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. About four years ago, I started college, recently

1269
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: out of COVID. Everyone's been inside for ages and it

1270
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: was hard to break the ice. So I did what

1271
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: any well adjusted person would do, and I made a

1272
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: bunch of accounts on dating sites, posing as a chick,

1273
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: with the idea being that the experience would bring some

1274
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: funny stories to help me talk to the people around

1275
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: me and make some friends, and for what it's worth,

1276
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: it did. However, somewhere down the line, I found myself

1277
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: enjoying it a little more than for how I had

1278
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: initially intended. I felt comfortable for the first time possibly

1279
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: in my life. I felt connected, even at two am,

1280
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: when I really should have been sleeping parentheses. I failed

1281
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: college over this, btw, So I took a step back.

1282
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: I assessed my situation and I went, huh, what a coincidence,

1283
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: and just ignored it like a fucking champ. But then

1284
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: calamity struck. All the accounts got banned and I was

1285
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: left with nothing. I just had to make do with

1286
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: the stories I had collected and told thus far. But

1287
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: I missed it. And when I thought about missing it,

1288
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: I realized it wasn't the stories I collected that I missed,

1289
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: but it was the moment to moment interactions and being

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Speaker 1: seen in that way. So I took another look at

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Speaker 1: myself and went, huh, well, I guess there's nothing I

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Speaker 1: can do. But around this time, I started seeing a

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Speaker 1: therapist because my grades suck and I kept falling asleeping class.

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Speaker 1: We got to talking about things, and at this point

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Speaker 1: I realized that my issues stemmed from just enjoying. My

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Speaker 1: issues stemmed further than just enjoying how the people in

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Speaker 1: the dating app saw me, but also hating how people

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Speaker 1: in person saw me. That's when the idea of being

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Speaker 1: transgender fully fledged in my mind. But there's a pretty

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Speaker 1: signific problem with all this the way I found out

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Speaker 1: about the about all this myself is objectively immoral, and

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Speaker 1: I think it might also be a little bit illegal.

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Speaker 1: Is it illegal? I don't know if that's illegal. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's necessarily illegal to pretend to be

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Speaker 1: someone you or not on a dating app.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's like a hinge law uh. That

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Speaker 1: makes me feel like I don't deserve this. Maybe I'm

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: a piece of shit who should suffer hating their body,

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Speaker 1: mind and voice until the end of days as a

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01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: punishment for being a bad person. But then I can't

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Speaker 1: be a good person and do good things if I'm

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Speaker 1: not comfortable in the world. It's a real fucking mess, dude,

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Speaker 1: which is why I wanted to write you, because so

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Speaker 1: many people these days are so afraid of putting foot wrong,

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: and all they want to do is put you in

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Speaker 1: some fucking reinforcement chamber so they look like better people.

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Speaker 1: I need the advice of someone real as fuck, and

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anyone realer than the lizard guy

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Speaker 1: who talks to crazy people on the internet. So what

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Speaker 1: do you think, a wise lizard man? The moral of

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Speaker 1: the story, I guess is, don't believe everything you see

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Speaker 1: online and sometimes you gotta do it for the lore ps.

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Speaker 1: If you were an item in the fortnight Shop, I

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Speaker 1: would buy you. Well, Jamie, Uh, listen, there's nothing wrong, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Why do you Jamie, what's going on? Why do you

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Speaker 1: think you're such a terrible person. I'm goanna, Look, you

1328
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: were fucking around on the dating apps pretending to be

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Speaker 1: a woman. You realize that you kind of liked what

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Speaker 1: it was like being perceived as a woman. You realize, so,

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, this is how you found out that

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Speaker 1: you were trans You know, it's not it's not insane

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01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: that this is how you found out. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I think there's things around this

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Speaker 1: perhaps that are indicators of I don't insanity as is

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Speaker 1: quite a word, but there's there's things around this where

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, making smurf dating accounts, this thing

1338
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: where you're like, I went on dating sites posing as

1339
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: a chick so I would have funny stories to tell people,

1340
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: because that's the way I'm going to make connections with others.

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Speaker 1: That's the only part of me, that's the main part

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: of this that feels crazy to me, not like like, look,

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Speaker 1: If this is the way you found out that you

1344
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: prefer being seen as a woman, that's that's fine. The

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: crazy thing is this idea that like you need to

1346
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: have crazy stories in order of like fucking with people

1347
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: on the internet in order to connect with people. That's

1348
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: where your logic is flawed. I actually feel like that

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Speaker 1: will help. That makes you connect with people less, because

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, Jamie, is you're gonna connect with people

1351
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: because you're taking interest in them, not because like like

1352
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: if you're in a conversation with someone and you just

1353
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: keep telling you're like, oh, the way to have if

1354
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: you are following a line of logic that's telling you

1355
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Speaker 1: the way to connect with someone and have a conversation

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Speaker 1: with them is to pretend to be a woman on

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Speaker 1: a dating app and then fuck with guys and have

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: weird stories about it. You're you're not gonna connect with

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Speaker 1: that person at all. You're just gonna be a wall

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: of yourself. You're gonna tell these people a bunch of

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Speaker 1: stories that they don't care about, and you're just gonna

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, Oh, that person doesn't know

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Speaker 1: how to connect with people. They're just gonna tell me

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Speaker 1: these stories you know that they're just gonna be like

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Speaker 1: a wall of themselves that's not really connecting. That's just

1366
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: like throwing your existence at somebody. So my advice to

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Speaker 1: you is to you know, next time you're in a conversation,

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Speaker 1: don't bring any of this shit it up. Ask them

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Speaker 1: how they're doing, you know, say something like, hey, do

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Speaker 1: you have any have you been doing anything interesting lately?

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: And then when they say no, not really say oh,

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Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to be doing? You know,

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01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: just keep back, like ask them questions. If someone was

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01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: talking to me about like fucking with people on dating

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: apps and like they just brought it up and they

1376
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: just kept talking about it, I would listen to them

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,879
Speaker 1: because I would be curious for sure, but I wouldn't

1378
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Speaker 1: walk away from that feeling like I connected with another person.

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Speaker 1: So that's my two cents is, you know, you don't

1380
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: have to be interesting, you have to be interested Jamie,

1381
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Speaker 1: and you know, congrats on finding out that your trans

1382
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's inherently crazy. I need the advice

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Speaker 1: of someone real as fuck, and I can't think of

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: anyone realer than the lizard guy who talks to crazy

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Speaker 1: people on the internet.

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Speaker 4: You're right.

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Speaker 1: I am a little bit crazy.

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Speaker 4: We all are. Jamie.

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Speaker 1: I'd buy you if you were an item in the

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Speaker 1: Fortnite shop, just kidding, I wouldn't. I don't play Fortnite.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything more productive to say. This has

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Speaker 1: been therapy Gecko. Thank you guys for joining. If you

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Speaker 1: live in the city of Tokyo, Japan, I am doing

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Speaker 1: a show at my favorite comedy club in Japan, the

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Speaker 1: Tokyo Comedy Bar, on March twenty second. That's a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: If so, maybe you're off work and you want to come.

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Speaker 1: I'm also doing thirty other shows across America in many

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Speaker 1: places all over the America, some places in Canada, Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal.

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Speaker 1: I have some material that I'll be doing. I have

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Speaker 1: some group Gecko therapy sessions that I'll be conducting and

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Speaker 1: it'll be a good time. I hope you show up

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Speaker 1: Therapy geckotour dot com or check the link the episode description. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this has been therapy Getcko. My name is Lyle. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys as always for listening, and see you folks

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Speaker 1: in a few days. Get bless goes on the.

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Speaker 3: Line taking your phone calls every night de re Bek

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Speaker 3: goes doing his ride.

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Speaker 1: He's teaching you loud on the memor of your life.

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Speaker 1: Money's not ready.

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Speaker 3: An expert