Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Car Stories with Someunky and
Speaker 1: Amelia Hartford. Today we had Magnus Walker, who is a
Speaker 1: legend in the car space and.
Speaker 2: A real personal inspiration for myself, someone who inspired me
Speaker 2: to have the courage to jump into the community and
Speaker 2: not worry about whether people are thinking.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, a spiritual person but also a hard
Speaker 1: worker and hey, you know, nothing's going to get handed
Speaker 1: to you. You have to work for what you want
Speaker 1: in life and give it your all, which I respect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you guys are going to hear
Speaker 2: a side to Magnus that you never knew. This is
Speaker 2: a multi dimensional person with many layers and many, many
Speaker 2: wise things to share, which today I know I'll walk
Speaker 2: away with a lot of great, great tools in my box.
Speaker 1: Now, absolutely, And I hope people listening have that same takeaway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it. How do you two know each other?
Speaker 3: I met you through Fraser at E Garage when we
Speaker 3: shot a video called Furious Outlaws where we swapped cars. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Sung drove two seven seven and I drove the Faguzi
Speaker 3: for Gauz. You remember I couldn't pronounce it for.
Speaker 2: Good blow His engine by the way.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yes, we never actually talked about that.
Speaker 2: Happen, that that actually did matter drive a Porsche especially
Speaker 2: actually happened. And he was so like calm about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, he's gonna get freaking pissed, right,
Speaker 2: and Magus was so zen. You know, hey, I did
Speaker 2: blow his engine. Yeah, well, thankfully we finished the shoot
Speaker 2: and it was.
Speaker 3: On the way down the hill and I remember like
Speaker 3: it went and I just remember pulling into the bottom
Speaker 3: pull in where we pushed it into the spot for
Speaker 3: the ending scene and then towed it home. So that
Speaker 3: was how we met. And I think that was actually
Speaker 3: twenty I should have looked it up, but I think
Speaker 3: it was twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it this morning. I was really,
Speaker 2: you know, looking forward to seeing you again, and I
Speaker 2: was like, so, what does Magnus mean to me? And
Speaker 2: I don't think I think I told you this, but
Speaker 2: I always tell people this is that Magnus is the
Speaker 2: reason I'm here sitting here right now with you, Amelia,
Speaker 2: because Magnus is ted talk. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: had the privilege of listening to this, but I think
Speaker 2: it's like nine years old, nine twenty.
Speaker 3: Fourteen, it's actually coming up on ten year aniverse years.
Speaker 2: It moved me so much, right and yeah, and like
Speaker 2: it gave me the courage to go, just go and
Speaker 2: do it. Go go get into the car commutey because
Speaker 2: I was like, hey man, you're just this actor from
Speaker 2: the Fast movies. You can't do that. You can't pursue passion. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, I always had interesting cars, but I'm not
Speaker 2: a mechanic. I'm not a race car driver. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: I have this imposter syndrome, things like I don't want
Speaker 2: to be a poser. But you know, after I listened
Speaker 2: to Magnus, it was the first person within the car
Speaker 2: community that actually I could understand and his message resonated.
Speaker 2: It wasn't about you know, I was a racer and
Speaker 2: I'm you got to be a racer, you gotta be
Speaker 2: a go to mechanics school. It's like it came from
Speaker 2: a place of like, just be passionate about what you're doing,
Speaker 2: be open minded. These doors open and you never know
Speaker 2: what opportunities, what kind of people are you going to meet?
Speaker 2: You know, And it's one of the most important TED talks,
Speaker 2: I think, at least for me in my life. And
Speaker 2: then for people in the car community, it's like a
Speaker 2: must listen.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for sharing that. The ironic thing about
Speaker 3: the TED talk is I'd never even heard of TED
Speaker 3: talks when they approached me to do one. Wow and
Speaker 3: I got approached and they'd seen the Open Outlaw short
Speaker 3: documentary film that came out late October twenty twelve and
Speaker 3: early twenty fourteen. They approached me to do a TED talk,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what's a TED Talk. I didn't even
Speaker 3: know what one was. I didn't even watched it. And
Speaker 3: long story short, you know, I told my story a
Speaker 3: few times, so I was pretty comfortable telling my story,
Speaker 3: but it was in an environment where people edited my story.
Speaker 3: So doing a TED talk, you have eighteen minutes and
Speaker 3: it's live. So for me, it was out of my
Speaker 3: comfort zone school at fifteen, with not a lot of education.
Speaker 3: I did my TED talk at UCLA on a big
Speaker 3: stage in front of a thousand people, and I had
Speaker 3: to sit through probably a dozen TED talks before I
Speaker 3: went up, and I was pretty intimidated because these people
Speaker 3: were talking about what I thought was important, stuff that
Speaker 3: I didn't actually understand, and I'm just going up there
Speaker 3: talking about go with your gout and do what feels right.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I was pretty nervous, but the
Speaker 3: Ted Talk taught me how to get to the point
Speaker 3: quicker and actually how to be a more comfortable in
Speaker 3: a public environment where you can't say, okay, stop, let
Speaker 3: me redo that again. It was live, so I sort
Speaker 3: of benefited from that. And the ironic thing with the
Speaker 3: Ted Talk is it's the most viewed thing I've done.
Speaker 3: Got over almost ten million views last time I looked. Oh,
Speaker 3: I was aware of it, and I would say ninety
Speaker 3: five percent of the people that have watched it had
Speaker 3: no idea who and are not car people. But the message,
Speaker 3: which you so eloquently put transcends the car generation or
Speaker 3: the car community of just do what you love to do.
Speaker 3: And I've got more feedback I can email from people
Speaker 3: that watched the Ted Talk that said it inspired them
Speaker 3: and motivated them to go do something that they were
Speaker 3: pretty much intimidated by. And a lot of people had
Speaker 3: gone down this path of going down a career that
Speaker 3: they thought they had to do because their parents did it, doctor, lawyer,
Speaker 3: something like that, but they weren't really happy in that
Speaker 3: environment and really what they wanted to do was be
Speaker 3: a skater or a surfer, or carguy or make candles
Speaker 3: or whatever it was. And somehow there was a spark
Speaker 3: of motivation through the Ted talk that I did. That
Speaker 3: It was kind of like, oh, I should follow my passion,
Speaker 3: follow my gun, and just do what I love to do,
Speaker 3: and that's always sort of being my thing. And I
Speaker 3: think you summed it up really well of you know,
Speaker 3: you sort of don't necessarily have to worry about what
Speaker 3: other people think a lot of the time and just
Speaker 3: do what makes you happy, what drives you on, what
Speaker 3: motivates you. So that was the story behind the Ted talk,
Speaker 3: So thanks for sharing that.
Speaker 2: I mean, your story will parallel a lot with it.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you know the generation or the
Speaker 2: fan base that you inspire, you know, is gravitating towards
Speaker 2: you because probably very similar things of what Magnus represents
Speaker 2: for old people like me.
Speaker 3: I've heard people tell similar stories. You know, you grew
Speaker 3: up as a kid. Everything starts at a young age
Speaker 3: with a toy model, right whatever your car of choice
Speaker 3: may be, Mine just happen to be Porsche. But I've
Speaker 3: heard similar stories about people had their poster on the
Speaker 3: wall followed their passion, you know, built their first car,
Speaker 3: which might have been handed down from a family member
Speaker 3: or some emotional connection. It's always an emotional connection I
Speaker 3: feel to the car, which brings back what I call
Speaker 3: memorable moments you first drive with your dud, or the
Speaker 3: first car you learned to drive in, or the first
Speaker 3: drive with your girlfriend, or whatever it may be. So
Speaker 3: that's kind of a common bond that I think people
Speaker 3: can relate to because it's like, oh, yeah, that was me.
Speaker 3: I had a poster on the wall. So I think
Speaker 3: that's sort of what attracts people to that Ted talk
Speaker 3: wance a hear and they go back to it is
Speaker 3: you know, it's they relate to. It's a relatable story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is something I always wanted to ask you,
Speaker 2: and I think probably people in the car community would
Speaker 2: never guess this right. And you used to be a
Speaker 2: cross country runner?
Speaker 3: Yeah I did.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's no joke to be a competitive cross
Speaker 2: country running gil.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean for me, I always describe myself as
Speaker 3: a lone wolf in the sense of cross country running
Speaker 3: as an individual sport. I was a middle distance run
Speaker 3: across country runner, and ironically it started at a very
Speaker 3: young age and it was back to passion. It was
Speaker 3: something I enjoyed doing, and it was something I was
Speaker 3: actually good at doing, and it was an activity that
Speaker 3: didn't you don't need any any You don't need anything,
Speaker 3: just a pair of running shoes and shorts and you
Speaker 3: go do it. You don't have to rely on someone
Speaker 3: else in the sense of a team. So I started
Speaker 3: running at an early age and I talked about this
Speaker 3: pivotal point for me that happened when I was eleven
Speaker 3: years old. This was nineteen seventy eight and I'd been
Speaker 3: running competitively and doing pretty well and ended up being
Speaker 3: North England schoolboy champion and it was something I was
Speaker 3: passionate about and motivated me. And at the time one
Speaker 3: of my heroes was this athlete called Sebastian Co who
Speaker 3: actually ran for this club that I ran for, called
Speaker 3: the hallm Shah Harris. He was probably five six years
Speaker 3: older and he wrote this, I got a CERTIFICATET, I
Speaker 3: finished third and norlyput was well done, zep Co And
Speaker 3: I still have this thing because he was an idol
Speaker 3: of mine that I looked up to. I'd posted him
Speaker 3: on the wall and it just goes to show one
Speaker 3: word of encouragement, well two words, well done. I'm still
Speaker 3: talking about it forty odd years later. Forty five years later,
Speaker 3: and Sebastian Coe went on to be an Olympic champion
Speaker 3: in the eight hundred and fifteen hundred meter discipline and
Speaker 3: went on to be a world record holder in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty nineteen eighty four, the la Olympic Games in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty four. So it was a significant thing for me
Speaker 3: that became what I call a teachable element where a
Speaker 3: little bit of confidence building doesn't really take a lot
Speaker 3: of effort. When when people come up to me and say,
Speaker 3: you know, they've watched my story, watch the film being
Speaker 3: motivated by me, I always take time to sort of
Speaker 3: give back because I always revert myself back to Sebastian
Speaker 3: go signing the certificate, saying well done. So it's one
Speaker 3: of those teachable elements that came through being a middle
Speaker 3: distance runner, across country runner and looking back on my
Speaker 3: life going back forty five years, I realized now which
Speaker 3: I didn't realize at the time, that that discipline of
Speaker 3: running twice a day, five days a week, setting goals,
Speaker 3: being motivated to achieve those goals, having a little bit
Speaker 3: of success at an early age sort of set me
Speaker 3: up for later on in life, you know, to actually
Speaker 3: set a goal, be disciplined, motivated, work towards that, but
Speaker 3: put the effort in. You know, you don't necessarily need
Speaker 3: the experience or the talent that sort of helps, but
Speaker 3: that develops and matures over time. You know, whatever it
Speaker 3: is you want to do in life, I believe if
Speaker 3: you put the energy in and put the effort in,
Speaker 3: and be dedicated and don't give up, a lot of
Speaker 3: people have great ideas, but they probably don't execute him
Speaker 3: because they've run it by a friend. Thinking about doing
Speaker 3: this thing, what do you think? The friend may be
Speaker 3: negative and say I don't. I think that's a good
Speaker 3: idea that'll never work type of scenario. So a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't cross the start line. It's like you,
Speaker 3: you know what the story you just told? You know,
Speaker 3: so a lot of people sort of back away from, oh,
Speaker 3: the fear of failure. So I think for me having
Speaker 3: that discipline as a young kid and then as a
Speaker 3: nineteen year old, I worked on a summer camp with
Speaker 3: inner city underprivileged kids north of Detroit and took a
Speaker 3: Trailways bus from Detroit to La and arrived in LA.
Speaker 3: This part of the story is pretty funny because I
Speaker 3: came with this dream. I grew up watching a lot
Speaker 3: of American TV, listening to American music. I was influenced
Speaker 3: by American culture, so arriving in Hollywood it was weirdly
Speaker 3: anti climatic because the Hollywood I had seen on TV
Speaker 3: in the eighties. When I arrived at Union Station on
Speaker 3: a Tuesday morning at four am in the morning, I'm like,
Speaker 3: we're all the movie stars, We're all the rock stars,
Speaker 3: you know. Then I arrived to Hollywood and that was
Speaker 3: a really sort of wake up call on Hollywood Boulevard
Speaker 3: in the mid eighties. But I clicked with it and
Speaker 3: resonated with it, and every time I go past that YMCA,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a grounding thing for me because that
Speaker 3: was ground based zero when I arrived here, not knowing anyone.
Speaker 3: And I'm still here whatever it is thirty eight years later,
Speaker 3: and La is home to me. And I spent nineteen
Speaker 3: years in Sheffield, England, but all my adult life has
Speaker 3: been LA. Like I never had a driver's licen in England,
Speaker 3: never owned a car in England, never had my own apartment,
Speaker 3: never had a real job. I was just sort of
Speaker 3: bumming around and so La was the land of opportunity.
Speaker 3: It was everything I was into at the time. It
Speaker 3: still is. It's still an inspiring place for me. La.
Speaker 3: I get inspiration just walking around Hollywood. So ironically, Hannah
Speaker 3: and I bought a house up the road less than
Speaker 3: a mile up the road from here, in near the
Speaker 3: Hollywood Bowl. It's one hundred year old Spanish house that
Speaker 3: we're restoring. You know, I never lived in Hollywood. I'd
Speaker 3: lived in Venice and downtown for thirty years, but i'd
Speaker 3: go to Hollywood. But now living here, I'm walking around
Speaker 3: all these places that bring back these memories of when
Speaker 3: I first arrived, and it's kind of an inspiring thing.
Speaker 2: Wow, you still have your offed in downtown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way I talk about that, you're not getting
Speaker 1: rid of it, are you?
Speaker 2: Institution though?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this will be the twenty fourth year I've owned
Speaker 3: that building. I've been downtown in the Arts District since
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four. So in two thousand, I bought a
Speaker 3: twenty six thousand square foot building that was constructed in
Speaker 3: nineteen oh two. So that was where I ran my
Speaker 3: clothing company. I lived in the loft. I accidentally fell
Speaker 3: into the film location business twenty years ago by renting
Speaker 3: that space out for everything like commercial filming, TV shows,
Speaker 3: music videos, reality shows and along the way sort of,
Speaker 3: how's my Porsche collection?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dream is a warehouse similar to what you
Speaker 1: have a high level goal one day.
Speaker 3: Well, you're going to make the dream come true? You know,
Speaker 3: baby steps and take that leap of.
Speaker 1: Face, I said, keep working out it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to keep doing that.
Speaker 1: Have you always been a very motivated person?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think so. You know. I described myself as street
Speaker 3: smart and I left school with two old levels at fifteen,
Speaker 3: went on the doll But yeah, I think when I
Speaker 3: arrived in la I had to be motivated because I
Speaker 3: didn't know anyone and I didn't want to go back home.
Speaker 3: For me, failure would be returning to Sheffield, the city
Speaker 3: I came from. Not that it's a bad place, but
Speaker 3: everything sort of i'd grown up aspiring to be around
Speaker 3: was literally here in la I have no education, and
Speaker 3: essentially the clothing, property development and messing around with cars
Speaker 3: wasn't like I went to school to learn any of that,
Speaker 3: but I had an interest in it and a passion
Speaker 3: and La is one of those places where opportunity just
Speaker 3: sort of comes weirdly. You know. People say, you know, oh,
Speaker 3: you get lucky. I say, you make your own luck
Speaker 3: by being put yourself in the right place at the
Speaker 3: right time. But when someone offers you that opportunity that
Speaker 3: may be scary to host a podcast, for example, Right,
Speaker 3: sure do it? How bad can it be? Right?
Speaker 2: I was asking myself like, and that's so I went
Speaker 2: into this rabbit hole of like, why is Magnus magnus? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I used this phrase like the light behind his eyes,
Speaker 2: like the headlights are always on high beam where you know,
Speaker 2: I catch myself the lights start to dim after a
Speaker 2: while for whatever factors, right, And I catch myself like, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: it'll be careful. You better go get a jolt, you know,
Speaker 2: get a jump somewhere. And I use running in my
Speaker 2: daily life when things are really down and I feel
Speaker 2: like unmotivated or I feel like, you know, I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm making myself a victim to life, and like,
Speaker 2: you know, especially in our business of Hollywood, it's it's
Speaker 2: a business of no's, Like you're never good enough, right,
Speaker 2: so it's ninety nine point nine percent no, and you're
Speaker 2: waiting for that point one thing. And so I started
Speaker 2: adopting running because.
Speaker 1: You like running.
Speaker 2: I like it now as I'm older, because before because
Speaker 2: I was so competitive because I was younger, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run a marathon, and then I lose. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna win, right, and all these people are passing
Speaker 2: men finishing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then now I now, I like, I have these
Speaker 2: four hills that I run daily, like as soon as
Speaker 2: I wake up up, like I go. I appreciate at
Speaker 2: age fifty one that first of all, that I'm still
Speaker 2: able to do it. Yeah, And I get up there
Speaker 2: and I've learned, you know, gratitude which I never had, right,
Speaker 2: and the I then the concept of even prayer. Right
Speaker 2: Like in my travels, I've gotten to meet very spiritual people.
Speaker 2: And I was in Kyoto, Japan, which is like one
Speaker 2: of the most spiritual places in Asia and especially Japan.
Speaker 2: And this car guy Mirasan, who you know is Rocket Bunny.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know Rocket Bunny. They make
Speaker 2: body kids everytime I go to visit him. We never
Speaker 2: do anything car related. He takes me straight to the
Speaker 2: temples and he's like, and I feel like I have
Speaker 2: to take you here. And I'm like to do what
Speaker 2: It's like, it's a place where I give things that
Speaker 2: I'm healthy enough to like come here that I get
Speaker 2: to pursue this beautiful life of like making cars, I
Speaker 2: get to meet friends like you, I get to have kids,
Speaker 2: I have a wonderful wife and the full sun. So
Speaker 2: I just give thanks and this is where I come
Speaker 2: and I do this every day. And he's like, song,
Speaker 2: do you have a place back in LA And I
Speaker 2: go no. He goes, well, maybe you need to find Yeah,
Speaker 2: So on this run, like I found this place which
Speaker 2: there's a little bench somebody made, and I just go
Speaker 2: there and I pray and I go thank you for
Speaker 2: my wife, my life, thank you for this beautiful dog
Speaker 2: and the other dog, thank you for this health. And
Speaker 2: then I go thank you for today I get to
Speaker 2: do a podcast with a couple of friends, and then
Speaker 2: I go on my way. Second stage is harder, long,
Speaker 2: long journey right up this mountain. Third stage is even
Speaker 2: lonelier and colder. But then the fourth stage is back
Speaker 2: down the mountain going home. And I'm like, wow, it's
Speaker 2: not so bad, right, And I use that as like
Speaker 2: a daily, like you know, kind of discipline to go Hey,
Speaker 2: keep that keep that light behind your eyes, like positive.
Speaker 2: And when I found out that you were a you know,
Speaker 2: distance runner or a mid distance runner, I was like,
Speaker 2: that's the foundation of how you're able to keep the
Speaker 2: headlights right in life, right, you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, So how many miles a day do
Speaker 3: you run?
Speaker 2: I think it's like a five mile cour I used
Speaker 2: to track everything and then that would get in the way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I go, I didn't do twelve today, right, I
Speaker 2: didn't do eighteen today. There was a time where I
Speaker 2: was running like twenty two miles. Wow, I called the
Speaker 2: forest gumping.
Speaker 3: Yep, running. I no longer run. I haven't run in
Speaker 3: a long time. But I think once you get to
Speaker 3: some point in life, priorities shift, things change, Things that
Speaker 3: were important before are not quite as important at some point,
Speaker 3: you know. And he starts sort of thinking along the
Speaker 3: lines of what you were talking about, you know, things
Speaker 3: to keep me grounded but also motivated, keeping the light on,
Speaker 3: the passion burning bright. You know my thing, you know,
Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty four eyes, so these New Year's resolution,
Speaker 3: and you know my thing is to continue doing what
Speaker 3: I call cool shit with cool people, but collaborate and
Speaker 3: create more with other people as opposed to being this
Speaker 3: sort of lone wolf where you know, I'm a one
Speaker 3: man of army doing stuff on myself because it is
Speaker 3: hard to say motivated and actually, you know, continue to
Speaker 3: create things that you're proud of all the time. You know,
Speaker 3: I think life goes in this circle of highs and
Speaker 3: lows and you know, peaks and plateaus, and you reach
Speaker 3: a certain level and then sidestep, maybe take a different
Speaker 3: turn and see where that road goes.
Speaker 2: Are you one hundred percent committed to drag racing?
Speaker 1: Whenever I do something, I'm doing giving it one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten percent. I really don't have ass things that
Speaker 1: I do. That's why I never went or I haven't
Speaker 1: gone into a competitive racing series because of I cannot
Speaker 1: take on responsibility of racing and then book a role
Speaker 1: and know that I have to let down sponsors or
Speaker 1: I can't or all lose points because I can't race
Speaker 1: because then I'm not giving up one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 1: I feel like everything I do, I have to give everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can relate that completely. Kind of like I
Speaker 3: used to do a lot of track days from two
Speaker 3: thousand and two to two thousand and eight, and I
Speaker 3: went through the program where you turn up with a
Speaker 3: street car, you do some time trialing, then you go
Speaker 3: next level, you get club race license. You're doing some
Speaker 3: wil to wheel. But I'm still doing it in two
Speaker 3: seven seven streetable track car, not a fully caged dedicated
Speaker 3: race car, because I like the idea of driving it
Speaker 3: to the track and back. And so you go down
Speaker 3: this slippery slope, I think you can probably relate to
Speaker 3: it right where you just get in it. You get
Speaker 3: motivated the time, the energy of the dedication, your craft
Speaker 3: gets better, you become a better driver. I started instructing,
Speaker 3: but then they became a point where the more competitive
Speaker 3: it became, you know, these three day events become all
Speaker 3: consuming prep in the car. You got to travel it
Speaker 3: five day event. And for me, the more competitive it became,
Speaker 3: the less fun it became. And I said to myself,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of done with this because I'm no longer
Speaker 3: one hundred percent committed to doing this. And I realized,
Speaker 3: if you're not one hundred percent committed to being on
Speaker 3: the track, you don't go on the track, because that's
Speaker 3: when stuff goes wrong. When you're not one hundred percent
Speaker 3: committed or at least from my point of view, is
Speaker 3: like there's a shadow of doubt. Second guess, in yourself.
Speaker 3: I was no longer a competitive I.
Speaker 2: Wonder if that notion of that being one hundred percent
Speaker 2: committed to something. I wonder if you can apply that
Speaker 2: to anything you want to be successful?
Speaker 1: Enough? Oh, I think everything everything in life.
Speaker 3: First of all, you've got to believe in yourself and
Speaker 3: have confidence that you're going to be able to achieve
Speaker 3: this goal that you've set, whatever it may be running
Speaker 3: up the hill faster, going around a track faster, or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I think you need that inner self confidence and
Speaker 3: focus where you can block out the external negativity and
Speaker 3: noise that might distract you and derailue first of all.
Speaker 3: But ultimately, I think whatever it is you're doing, whether
Speaker 3: you're making candles or surfing or whatever, you've got to
Speaker 3: be one hundred percent committed to it. Otherwise I don't
Speaker 3: think you give your role. And I think that's the
Speaker 3: difference right there.
Speaker 2: So you're very selective on what you focus your energy on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: were you always like that or did you have to
Speaker 2: learn that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't. I wasn't. I was very competitive
Speaker 1: growing up, but I feel like when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I wanted to do and try everything to get experience
Speaker 1: and everything. And I think once I solidified with the
Speaker 1: things in my life that I was most passionate about,
Speaker 1: that's when I had that shift happen of Okay, well
Speaker 1: this is it, this is what I'm doing. I'm going
Speaker 1: to give it my all because we get one life
Speaker 1: on this earth. I don't want to become older and
Speaker 1: be like, man, I should have tried a little harder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so it's okay to lose passion, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think generally what happens is, you know,
Speaker 3: you'll find passion elsewhere. Yeah, you know, different opportunity. You know,
Speaker 3: I think you've got to be committed to what you're doing,
Speaker 3: and you got to prioritize, like if acting's more over priority,
Speaker 3: then drag racing is you follow that path until maybe
Speaker 3: acting is not quite as exciting or nurturing, or you're
Speaker 3: not getting as much out of it, or or you
Speaker 3: just feel like you need a break and you need
Speaker 3: to try something else. Yeah. So you know, for me,
Speaker 3: I never had a plan. You know, people talk about
Speaker 3: where do you see yourself in especially at school, where
Speaker 3: do you see yourself in five years, ten years, twenty years.
Speaker 3: I never had that plan, you know, and that sort
Speaker 3: of enabled me to really just go with a flow.
Speaker 3: And then you get to a certain point, opportunity comes
Speaker 3: up and you go, yeah, that feels good. It's like
Speaker 3: when we bought the building downtown, the warehouse, like in
Speaker 3: two thousand. People thought were crazy at the time for
Speaker 3: doing that, but it was the best thing we ever did,
Speaker 3: you know. I was able to house the cars, got
Speaker 3: into the film location business, ran a clothing company, and
Speaker 3: then the neighborhood came up around and now the arts
Speaker 3: district is kind of like the new Culver City, the
Speaker 3: new Venice.
Speaker 1: It is so expensive. I was looking for shop space
Speaker 1: over there and oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't like that twenty twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3: But I took a leap of faith, bought this building,
Speaker 3: restored this building, and everything that I've been talking about
Speaker 3: since I walked through that door sort of happened through
Speaker 3: that building. And I have to sort of be grounded
Speaker 3: in an environment that I feel comfortable in that it's creative. Sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll go to car collections and people who've
Speaker 3: got fancy, great stuff, but I look at where it
Speaker 3: is and it's in some concrete tilt up and it's
Speaker 3: just a generic space.
Speaker 1: And to me, you know, lack of character.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's all. Yeah, the sole character, Betina. You know,
Speaker 3: it all needs to be housed in this environment that
Speaker 3: reflects my personality. Like someone's got great, flashy cars that
Speaker 3: they don't drive in a clinical industrial building. I go,
Speaker 3: this just doesn't I'm not interested in that. Like when
Speaker 3: people want to show me cars that I have no
Speaker 3: miles on it and they're proud of it because you know,
Speaker 3: they don't drive it, I go, well, it's kind of
Speaker 3: built to be driven, right, I'm more interested in showing
Speaker 3: me the car with a million miles on it, because
Speaker 3: that's got the stories and the memorable moments and the history,
Speaker 3: and that's just more interesting to me.
Speaker 2: Because you left fashion, I mean that was a passion
Speaker 2: of yours because yeah, yeah, right, And then I mean,
Speaker 2: how were you able to leave that, like because there
Speaker 2: was such a big, pretty person.
Speaker 3: I mean, I started selling second nd clothing on the
Speaker 3: boardwalk in Venice in the late eighties. You know, I'd
Speaker 3: go to yard sales by Levi's for like fifty cents,
Speaker 3: cut up some shirts, so some patches on it. It
Speaker 3: was a creative outlet for me, you know, And it
Speaker 3: was I was coming at it from this rock and
Speaker 3: roll I guess, pseudo hippie thing. And then late eighties
Speaker 3: early nineties the rave scene took off and everyone was
Speaker 3: into sort of flower power and whimsical floppy hats and
Speaker 3: it was just a whole movement, and that led into
Speaker 3: developing this clothing company called Serious. Like I said, it
Speaker 3: was a rock and roll brand that I was passionate about.
Speaker 3: It was just I didn't my mama taught me how
Speaker 3: to sew, because at the time, I tried to make
Speaker 3: my jeans as tired as possible and sew patches on
Speaker 3: my den and jacket so I could sew. So that
Speaker 3: was kind of a little skill set that I had,
Speaker 3: and it was just kind of easy to get into.
Speaker 3: And I realized back to like the running thing, once
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of success by making something
Speaker 3: that people actually appreciated and bought and generated some income,
Speaker 3: so I was financially stable on my own. It was
Speaker 3: baby steps, but it was the same connection as the running.
Speaker 3: I talk about this a little bit sometimes. The three
Speaker 3: things that I've done in the past forty years with
Speaker 3: no education. And I mentioned it earlier was the clothing
Speaker 3: property development cause the common bond thread was I was
Speaker 3: passionate about so the clothing company. I just liked what
Speaker 3: we were making. Other people liked it. It got into
Speaker 3: this rock and roll lifestyle, you know, opened up a
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities to work with bands, got some magazine coverage,
Speaker 3: and this all happened sort of, you know, way before
Speaker 3: the Internet. This was eighties and nineties. You know, there
Speaker 3: was no thing as Instagram and Facebook and social media,
Speaker 3: and in a way, it was sort of easier when
Speaker 3: I look back then, you know, you weren't wasting time
Speaker 3: checking your phone and do people like this? Not like it?
Speaker 3: Didn't like I liked it, We sold it, Other people
Speaker 3: liked it, bands wore it. Move on, just always evolving,
Speaker 3: not second guessing, not worrying about what other people think.
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I closed Serious down in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, and probably two three years before. I was
Speaker 3: now in my early forties, so I wasn't going out
Speaker 3: as much to clubs. I didn't really have to dress up,
Speaker 3: and you know, sort of I just lost interest in it.
Speaker 3: I'd lost passion for it. You know it had become
Speaker 3: sort of didn't interest me, didn't motivate me, and the
Speaker 3: last couple of years of doing it was sort of
Speaker 3: treading water. Sales were dwindling, but all of our friends
Speaker 3: worked for the company, and we just sort of gave
Speaker 3: them like six months notice of Hey, we're going to
Speaker 3: close this thing down. We didn't sell it, you know,
Speaker 3: we just sort of ended it. We just shipped all
Speaker 3: our orders and said, Okay, we're done with that chapter
Speaker 3: of the life. And thankfully the film location business was
Speaker 3: successful enough that it was paying the mortgage on the building,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know what was going to come next.
Speaker 3: But I like to say the clothing company took a
Speaker 3: lot of time and energy to continually be on top
Speaker 3: of it because we might be designed and manufacture it. It
Speaker 3: wasn't like we just bought t shirts and did its
Speaker 3: green prints. We actually did the whole thing. So it
Speaker 3: was a full time operation. And when I closed that down,
Speaker 3: I had a lot of time and didn't know what
Speaker 3: was coming next. Back to this, I hadn't planned for
Speaker 3: life after running a clothing company, But what happened within
Speaker 3: six months was Timer Moscovich's short documentary Urban Outlaw that
Speaker 3: put me on the map, and then the next sort
Speaker 3: of ten twelve years from twenty twelve that film came
Speaker 3: out October fifteenth, twenty twelve. I got invited all around
Speaker 3: the world to go to events and travel and car
Speaker 3: related stuff. And the point to my rambling here is
Speaker 3: if I was still running the clothing company, managing a
Speaker 3: business with employees, I would never have had the time
Speaker 3: to take advantage of these opportunities of travel, meet people
Speaker 3: like Bob Ing and go to Japan, hang out with
Speaker 3: the Kayas out all this cool stuff. You know, I
Speaker 3: ended up in need for speed video game and various
Speaker 3: other things that just became my focus. But I hadn't
Speaker 3: planned it, but indirectly I'd closed the door of the
Speaker 3: clothing company that was a sixty hour a week, all
Speaker 3: consuming gig. And then when people started inviting me places
Speaker 3: to do things I was passionate about, nothing was holding
Speaker 3: me back. I had a passport, and you know, you
Speaker 3: could say to me today, do you want to go
Speaker 3: somewhere on Friday? I'd be like, sure, I'll go. So
Speaker 3: sometimes you got to take this leap of faith and
Speaker 3: not be so hemmed into this is where I need
Speaker 3: to be at this certain time with this rigid sort
Speaker 3: of sometimes restrictions on can't do this, can't do that.
Speaker 3: So that was the ultimate freedom, being able to do
Speaker 3: whatever you wanted to do, when you wanted to do it,
Speaker 3: when the opportunity arose in that sort of environment. So
Speaker 3: closing down serious clothing wasn't a hard decision. It was
Speaker 3: kind of like when we did it, were like, we
Speaker 3: should have done this two years before, But in reality,
Speaker 3: if we've done it two years before, urban outlaw wasn't out.
Speaker 1: So well, everything happens for a reason, and time is
Speaker 1: the reason. Not everything happens at once, and.
Speaker 3: You've got to be patient and just let things evolve sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's true to that you need
Speaker 1: to create space in your life to allow new things
Speaker 1: to come in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to ask you this question, especially these days,
Speaker 2: and if you're uncomfortable with with it, we can actually
Speaker 2: cut this.
Speaker 3: Out, go for it.
Speaker 2: Karen was your first wife, right.
Speaker 3: Well, actually she was. I was married before she was
Speaker 3: my second wife. I'd been with Karen for twenty one years.
Speaker 2: And that's who you started the business with, and you
Speaker 2: had a wonderful life with her. She has passed away, right,
Speaker 2: So my question is a personal question because you know,
Speaker 2: my father, my stepfather, as of late, he's very unhealthy, right,
Speaker 2: and I guess, you know, everyone's preparing for him to
Speaker 2: leave us, right, And I do feel like it's gonna
Speaker 2: rock me and my sister. And there's a lot of
Speaker 2: like regrets that I have that I'm trying to like
Speaker 2: sort out in my personal life with him, you know,
Speaker 2: because it wasn't always rosy with him. For someone who's
Speaker 2: gone through this loss of someone that is you know,
Speaker 2: important to you, Like how do you not let those
Speaker 2: things dim your light? Magnus because we're talking about all
Speaker 2: like everything is very inspirational here, like it's and to
Speaker 2: the listener it could sound like, oh everything was so
Speaker 2: nice man, right, but the room I have to realize
Speaker 2: you're a human and it's not always nice right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Karen passed away in twenty fifteen, and
Speaker 3: I met her in nineteen ninety four, so we've been
Speaker 3: together twenty one years and we built this thing together,
Speaker 3: the clothing company, and bought the building. And Karen's passing
Speaker 3: was a real shock. That didn't see it coming. It
Speaker 3: wasn't expected, it wasn't expected, you know, it was. It
Speaker 3: was a terrible loss, and you know, I had no
Speaker 3: time to plan for the inevitable. Like my father passed
Speaker 3: away in twenty twelve, and I sort of had a
Speaker 3: turbulent relationship with my father. Because this will be a
Speaker 3: long answer to your question, but I think there'll be
Speaker 3: some relevance to it. You talk to Ryon about me
Speaker 3: being a cross country running a middle distance run, and
Speaker 3: I talked at some detail about having a certain amount
Speaker 3: of early success at that and my father was there
Speaker 3: with me through that. And once I hit the age
Speaker 3: of like fourteen, in England, you can go to the pub,
Speaker 3: start drinking. I was going to rock and roll shows.
Speaker 3: I just stopped running. And it really hurt my dad.
Speaker 3: But being from England and northern and in this eighties period,
Speaker 3: he couldn't communicate, you know. And it was like I
Speaker 3: talked about SEBC riding well done. I didn't talk about
Speaker 3: my dad patter me on the back and saying well done,
Speaker 3: because he never did it. Yeah, So you know, I
Speaker 3: think it's usual for guys to have turbulent relationships with
Speaker 3: the father, and that was my setup with my father.
Speaker 3: You know, he'd say cut your and get a real job. Well,
Speaker 3: I've probably hinted I've had long hair for forty five years,
Speaker 3: and I've never had a real job. I've never worked
Speaker 3: for anyone else. So my dad and I buttered heads,
Speaker 3: and when I came to America as a nineteen year old,
Speaker 3: the goal was never to go back to England because
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go back to that environment and
Speaker 3: that represented failure for me. So when I met Karen
Speaker 3: in ninety four, you know, and we sort of formed
Speaker 3: together and grew together, and we were together all the time.
Speaker 3: When she passed out of the blue. There'd been some issues,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't looking like someone has a terminal disease.
Speaker 3: Like my father was diagnosed with cancer in twenty ten
Speaker 3: and passed away in twenty twelve. But he wasn't active,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of let life slip him by, kind
Speaker 3: of the I think that was what part of what
Speaker 3: motivated me to never give up was I'd seen my
Speaker 3: father give up at an early age and it didn't
Speaker 3: look good and he didn't really have any goals. You know,
Speaker 3: he could have achieved stuff, but he wasn't one hundred
Speaker 3: percent committed and didn't put the energy in. So when
Speaker 3: my father passed away. It was sad, but I didn't
Speaker 3: have this great relationship with him. When Karen passed away,
Speaker 3: it was it was the end of the world, and
Speaker 3: I thought my life was over and that part of
Speaker 3: my life was over. And then eighteen months later, when
Speaker 3: I turned fifty, I met Hannah and that was the
Speaker 3: beginning of a second leaf on life, a second opportunity,
Speaker 3: a second chapter in my story. Turning fifty was kind
Speaker 3: of a big deal because people say it's just a number,
Speaker 3: but yeah, health became a thing, mental health and physical health.
Speaker 3: He can go running and you know, ironically, within six
Speaker 3: months of Karen passing away, one day, I was on
Speaker 3: the Sixth Street bridge. They closed it down and I
Speaker 3: hopped The bridge was dark, they were just about to
Speaker 3: tear it down, and I hopped over the wall and
Speaker 3: I hadn't anticipated the rise of the incline. When I
Speaker 3: dropped on the other side, it was like a ten
Speaker 3: foot drop, and I felt like, oh, that didn't line well,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done that. Long story short kind of
Speaker 3: went undiagnosed. I'm walking around traveling. Four months later, I
Speaker 3: can't walk and excruciating pain. I find out I had
Speaker 3: stress fracture cracks on both of my tibbers essentially broke
Speaker 3: both my legs, but I was still walking. But that
Speaker 3: put me in a wheelchair for two months, and I
Speaker 3: think in a way it was it was something out
Speaker 3: of my control that forced me to slow down and
Speaker 3: stop because I hadn't stopped. Once she passed, I just
Speaker 3: sort of shifted gears and went in another direction. So
Speaker 3: I don't really know if there's an answer here other
Speaker 3: than you find a way to deal with situations and
Speaker 3: adapt to that environment, whether you plan it or like
Speaker 3: me being in a wheelchair for two months. It's a
Speaker 3: tough thing and everyone deals with in a different way,
Speaker 3: and I don't feel there's any right and wrong way
Speaker 3: to deal with it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a great answer question. And
Speaker 2: the way I'm interpreting it is like it's not going
Speaker 2: to be a I'll send a new paint job on
Speaker 2: the carts. Can they be part of your patina?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And you just got to accept it.
Speaker 1: And it's sitting here and trying not to tear up.
Speaker 2: It's sad, you know, and it's not going to be easy,
Speaker 2: but life goes on and you just got to sort
Speaker 2: of keep moving forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I add to that conversation. I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about in the past. Death is so hard and
Speaker 1: it breaks my heart to hear everything that you went through.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's no secret about my life all the shit
Speaker 1: that I've gone through, But I will say, you don't
Speaker 1: want to live with any regret, and I think if
Speaker 1: you're questioning it, it might be worthwhile to at least
Speaker 1: have the conversation, you know, question.
Speaker 2: I do feel like I'm going to where I am
Speaker 2: currently today. If my dad passed away, I would have
Speaker 2: tons of regret. But yeah, similar to you, like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's old school dude, and we just it's like we
Speaker 2: have so many things to go over. But it's kind
Speaker 2: of irony of life is that he's passing away because
Speaker 2: of dementia and he doesn't even remember. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of like I start laughing. Remember, this is like I
Speaker 2: don't remember, I don't even know who you are.
Speaker 3: You know, I just started laughing for you. Even though
Speaker 3: he's not going to remember. You got to get it out,
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, because he's not going to remember it,
Speaker 3: but you're letting it go whilst he's still here.
Speaker 1: And second off that after my dad passed. Someone told
Speaker 1: me something because they hadn't lost their father as well.
Speaker 1: He was almost a decade prior, and he said to
Speaker 1: me not a single day had gone by that he
Speaker 1: hadn't thought of his dad, And that hit a chord.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh shit, because I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: going to live the rest of my life thinking about
Speaker 1: the fact that my dad's died at least once every
Speaker 1: single day. And truth is, yeah, I think at least
Speaker 1: once a day for my entire life, I've thought of him.
Speaker 1: And I share that because that's the regret, I think,
Speaker 1: because if you do find yourself thinking about it, at
Speaker 1: least in mind sense, that's mine. Everyone everyone's going to
Speaker 1: go through their own thing. You don't want to have
Speaker 1: those thoughts of should I have just had the.
Speaker 3: Even if he's not relating to it, you're expressing your
Speaker 3: emotions and letting it out. Whether he receives it or
Speaker 3: not kind of irrelevant, I think, because you're going to
Speaker 3: let it go. Yeah, it sounds like he's not going
Speaker 3: to be able to absorb it through the dementia, but
Speaker 3: I think you'll feel lighter that you said whatever it
Speaker 3: is you got to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's one of those like mountains
Speaker 2: that I look up and I go, I got to
Speaker 2: run that.
Speaker 1: But you're doing it every day baby steps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the thing that I do feel like
Speaker 2: at fifty one today, like if I don't resolve this,
Speaker 2: this is something that will carry with me for the
Speaker 2: rest of my life.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of weight.
Speaker 1: You said it yourself. Your run is in four stages. Yeah, first, yeah.
Speaker 2: Many times you know the answer, huh, you just gotta
Speaker 2: you know. The good thing is that, you know, my
Speaker 2: manager I was like talking to him like last week
Speaker 2: and he goes, you know, it's interesting because like you're
Speaker 2: so Asian and I was like, what that's like is
Speaker 2: that racist thing? And he's like, no, because you hold
Speaker 2: everything in, like you don't you know, the squeaky wheel
Speaker 2: gets the oil. He's like, it's it's like I'm not
Speaker 2: saying complaining. He's like, you gotta actually talk like you
Speaker 2: just hold everything in. It's like you just try to
Speaker 2: take care of everything and then we don't know what's
Speaker 2: what you're going through.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a lot the British thing as well.
Speaker 3: Keep calm, carry on, you know, we don't let it out.
Speaker 2: You know, but it's not always healthy.
Speaker 3: I guess, no, this is what I'm learning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something that I'm realizing. I at least I'm
Speaker 2: willing to talk about it because then, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: your point of reference is that he gives me courage. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, you know, it's like it's not something I
Speaker 2: should avoid.
Speaker 1: You know, well if the conversation goes bad, doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like he might remember it. Sorry, it's funny.
Speaker 2: Laugh at I was like, I was like, because I
Speaker 2: used to carry it like it was like this bag
Speaker 2: of rocks, like of anger. I was like, and one
Speaker 2: day I'm gonna sit down with you and I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna like throw the rocks at you. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, he ain't remember I'm talking about I just
Speaker 2: started laughing. I was like, this is you can't make
Speaker 2: this stuff up, no script, right.
Speaker 3: This is not an act. This is like the real
Speaker 3: emotion coming out. I got one more store. That's gonna
Speaker 3: time real briefly because Okay, with my dad, I remember
Speaker 3: the last real time I spent with him. It was
Speaker 3: probably the last time he came out to l I said,
Speaker 3: two thousand nine, twenty ten, and we went on this
Speaker 3: my cap adventure to go check some you know, bonfind
Speaker 3: porsches that we'd seen on craigslist. You know, it became
Speaker 3: this all day journey. I remember drove in my Irish
Speaker 3: Green sixty sixth nine to eleven, and we drove somewhere
Speaker 3: out to the Inland Empire to look at something and
Speaker 3: it wasn't quite what it was supposed to be. And
Speaker 3: then the guy goes, no, my body out near California City.
Speaker 3: He's got like a bunch of cars in his backyard.
Speaker 3: So we headed on this other journey. By the time
Speaker 3: we got back home, we only thought we were going
Speaker 3: for two hours. It'd been like an eight hour day.
Speaker 3: We'd driven like three hundred miles. We'd looked at a
Speaker 3: pile of crap cars that weren't worth five hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: We didn't buy anything, but we kind of had like
Speaker 3: this breakthrough moment of I never spent eight hours in
Speaker 3: a car with my dad when I was driving, when
Speaker 3: he wasn't shouting at my mom for giving him the
Speaker 3: wrong directions or whatever it was, and it just sort
Speaker 3: of became this full circle moment of I guess we
Speaker 3: both realized at that point, without saying sorry, that we'd
Speaker 3: sort of resolved whatever issues, resent and anger whatever. You know,
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I never cut my hair, I never
Speaker 3: got a real job. But we're doing okay here, right,
Speaker 3: So Vegas, haf One, you.
Speaker 2: Were there, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: What's your take on Vegas? Seemed like pretty good to me?
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I really had a great time.
Speaker 1: I found obviously different from other races that I've been to,
Speaker 1: because it felt like wherever you bought your tickets you
Speaker 1: were kind of gridlocked. You couldn't walk the track or
Speaker 1: go explore. But I had a great time. I thought
Speaker 1: it was fun. I thought they put up a great event.
Speaker 3: It was well organized, I'll say that. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean we were there. You know, I think everyone sort
Speaker 3: of thought it was going to be a shit show
Speaker 3: and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Well. Everyone was like premptively like talking shit, prepared for
Speaker 1: it to be.
Speaker 3: But you know, they made a couple of mistakes, but
Speaker 3: that was first time out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to you gotta fail somehow to learn, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I thought the event was great.
Speaker 3: It looked spectacular, and I say it was a win
Speaker 3: win all around Vegas.
Speaker 2: That's way you can't believe anything you read on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said, See all these terrible things.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I'm here right now. It's not like
Speaker 1: that exactly.
Speaker 2: That's all because it was only negative like feedback. And
Speaker 2: then when I talked to you and talk to you
Speaker 2: and anybody went through, it was great. Vegas is curreat
Speaker 2: it's the hospitality town.
Speaker 3: It was really really cool.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: What are you guys looking forward to this year when
Speaker 3: it comes to car related stuff? You got a King
Speaker 3: of Hammers and events like that there.
Speaker 1: Now, I'll be going to Tokyotoslan.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Have you been to Auto Salon?
Speaker 3: No, I've never been. I've been to Tokyo, but no,
Speaker 3: I'd love to go there. Hannah and I are off
Speaker 3: to a retromobile in Paris, cowing up. We've gone there before.
Speaker 3: We're going to go to Amelia Island. Have you ever
Speaker 3: gone there? The concoct Yeah. Yeah. So ironically this is
Speaker 3: I've been invited back to be a judge, which is
Speaker 3: kind of ironic. It's a third time, and I'm the
Speaker 3: guy that's always sort of saying, you know, I'm anti
Speaker 3: car show. It's my pet peeve of people with white
Speaker 3: gloves and Q tips, judging your car and telling you
Speaker 3: what's right and wrong about it. But two years ago
Speaker 3: I got invited to be a judge there and it
Speaker 3: was great because I met Peter Brock, He's a legend,
Speaker 3: John Oates legend, ended up becoming friends with John O's.
Speaker 3: He came down the ware house.
Speaker 2: He's a big Porscha guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super cool, down the earth, talented guy. So
Speaker 3: that that was a great example of something that I'd
Speaker 3: sort of turned my nose up a little bit. I
Speaker 3: guess it's all about evolving and brought like collaborating with
Speaker 3: other people and you never know, you know what opportunities.
Speaker 3: You know, that door opens, Like meeting John Oates and
Speaker 3: Peter brook was a great opportunity. And yeah, that's what
Speaker 3: brings pure motor heads, geareds, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 3: call people together. Is the joy of this, this this thing, right,
Speaker 3: you know this, you know it's an appliance, right, But
Speaker 3: it's more than that. You know, it takes you on
Speaker 3: this journey. It's more than something that communitates you on
Speaker 3: a journey. For me to be it opens up the
Speaker 3: world to sharing stories like we're doing here.
Speaker 2: It's hard to articulate to people that don't like cars.
Speaker 2: Why the connections work right? It's like dog people. It's
Speaker 2: like if you have dogs, like instantly like oh okay dog,
Speaker 2: and then it's like, hey, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: You know it's that connective tissue.
Speaker 3: Causing dougs go together. Yeah, yeah, does he run with you?
Speaker 2: He runs on Fridays with me, but he doesn't like Thursdays.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm worried. I'm worried that he's as he
Speaker 2: gets older, he's going to have some albums. So I
Speaker 2: don't want to do this. So on Friday he wants
Speaker 2: to come, but you know, I take him for as
Speaker 2: soon as I run, either before after I take him
Speaker 2: on a long walk. But on Fridays he gets to
Speaker 2: actually run with me, and he loves it. I do
Speaker 2: want it this year. And someone told me give me advice.
Speaker 2: Don't tell people like your plans, right, but this is
Speaker 2: a goal that I have.
Speaker 3: Sounds to me like you're telling people you want to
Speaker 3: do it. Huh. Sounds to me like telling people you
Speaker 3: want to do it.
Speaker 2: I am going to do.
Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
Speaker 2: Ultra ultra which is like sixty and then there's one
Speaker 2: hundred and there's two fifty.
Speaker 3: It's a long long way.
Speaker 2: I'd like to do that.
Speaker 1: I'll be there cheering you on.
Speaker 2: You know you won't because it's like it.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of finish line, that's a lot of
Speaker 3: steps hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to challenge like I want to fight, like.
Speaker 3: Fight through, go to break through the wall? Is that
Speaker 3: what they call it? The wall? And when is that
Speaker 3: the eighteen mile marker?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3: I think it's the wolf. But anyway, get out and run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but thank you magnus.
Speaker 1: This was Yeah, really appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Beautiful coming by, coming on, coming in, Appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for coming on.