1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: What's happening? Guys. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast. It is your host Battle 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: and on the show today. We are very excited to 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: have this guy on. Xavier Woods joins us and before 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: we jump into the interview, real quick, you. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Gotta go over some business. We gotta do this to 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: get it out of the way. 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: But it's not an ad or anything. Please follow us Instagram, 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: it's Battleground Podcast. Twitter is Battleground IHR on of course 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: we're on Facebook. You can find us just search Battleground 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Podcast on Facebook. 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Here we go, Exavier Woods. 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: This is part one. 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: We talked to Xavier Woods uh for well over an 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: hour and a half and the first half we talked 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: about wrestling. The second half we talk about video games. 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: So the first half of part one with Xavier Woods 34 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: starts right now. 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Let's get to that theme song. 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Battle. 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: Cube Into the Battle Crown. 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Live from the Parts Unknown Studios. 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: This is The Battleground Podcast, your place for all Thames 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: pro wrestling from the independent scene to w W E A, 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: E w R, O H n w A and Impact 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: Wrestling because hot topics, as well as interviews with some 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: of the biggest. 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 6: Names in the game. The Battle The Battleground Podcast starts now. 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 6: Carry your hosts, Battle and Eli. 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: So I would figure out if I thought, how am 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: I going to intro this show and there's no way 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: that I can do what Big E does before the 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: guys come out on the show. So I'm just gonna 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: go ahead and say it that we are very honored 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: to have on the Battleground Podcast today. 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: The man, the myth, the legend, Xavier Woods is with us. 53 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: Dude, what's up, what's going on? Thank you for such 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: such a kind intro. 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody can really do ease thing like he does it. 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: It's it's the big lungs in that big. 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: Chest that I was gonna say, they're strong, just like 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: I thought. 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: I thought about trying to do that, and I was like, 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to embarrass myself because I try to 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: do something like that with gender Mahal when they came 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: into the studio when he did the modern day Marahaja thing, 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: and I tried to do that and completely butchered it. 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: look like an idiot in front of Xavier. I'm just 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: gonna introduce him the way I should introduce him. 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's it's something that people need to understand. 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: Lay to your strength. 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 7: Don't try to beat somebody else because you can be 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 7: the best to you, but you're only going to be 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 7: the second best thing. 72 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Boom right, Oh, I love that so we are excited 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: to have Xavier Woods on. We're going to talk all 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: kinds of things. We're gonna talk wrestling, we're gonna talk 75 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: video games. So we're gonna kind of like we always 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: like to do in the show. We like to do 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: a softball question to kind of get the things flowing. 78 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: So when was that moment that you knew you wanted 79 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: to be a pro wrestler? And who are some of 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: your favorites growing up? I don't remember a time where 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: I didn't want to wrestle. I know that sounds super cliche, 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: but I guess so I can give you that answer, 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: and then I can give you like, oh, well, in 84 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: first grade, I remember very vividly the teacher going around 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: the classroom and asking everybody what they wanted to be 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: when they grew up. And you're like, you know, doctor, lawyer, astronaut, football. 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 7: Player, like whatever. And they got to me and I 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 7: said pro wrestler, and everyone like openly like guffawd ha ha, 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 7: the smallest guy in the room wants to be a 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 7: pro wrestler. 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: It's like that's when I knew, Like, man, screw you all, 92 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: I'm doing. 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: This and I know exactly what that feeling because when 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: everybody asked me, they're like, what do you want to 95 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: do when you grew up? And everybody's like, you know, 96 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: cop whatever, and I said radio DJ. 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: And everybody just kind of laughed. And now I'm a 98 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: radio DJ. 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, because like my what was in my head was like, okay, 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 7: so I'm gonna remember this day. 101 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: I remember. 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 7: I'm gonna remember your faces, I'm gonna remember what you said, 103 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 7: and when once we're in our thirties, I'm gonna call 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 7: all you and see if any of your reach day because. 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: I know, not a wadi, not a waddie. It's going 106 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: to stick to your guns. 107 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: And I guarantee you one of those people that laughed 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: is going to be the one at WrestleMania All Access 109 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: asking for a photo and be like, yo, dude, remember 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: we were in the same class together. 111 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude. 112 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 7: It was so it's so incredibly satisfying people in high 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 7: school who were. 114 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: Kind of that mindset. 115 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 7: And by then I had luckily started like amateur wrestling, 116 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 7: and I was playing football and track, I was in band. 117 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 7: I was like of an all right level of intelligence, 118 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 7: so I had like some my higher level classes. So 119 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 7: I'm like fairly confident within myself at this point, and 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 7: so when I would constantly say I want to be 121 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 7: a proarrest, more people were like, Okay, cool, you seem 122 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 7: you carry yourself like you can maybe do it. 123 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: You're a little small, but you know, maybe we got you. 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 7: But to those few people who were still hating, one 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 7: of them actually hit me up years years ago once 126 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 7: they saw me on TV and they were like, hey, man, 127 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 7: my kid watches wrestling. I've never really been into it, 128 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 7: but I started watching it with him, and now I 129 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 7: see like, you and your buddies are on there just 130 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 7: acting so ridiculous, and you're actually a pro wrestler on television, 131 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 7: and I wanted to say, I'm so sorry for being 132 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 7: a dick about it. 133 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: Back in the day. I was like, you know what, man, and. 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: It's probably that guy the kid probably you know, wanted 135 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: the Unicorn nude day headband or you know one of 136 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: those things. 137 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: Booty Oh. 138 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 8: I'm looking at my box of bootyos as we speak. 139 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 8: It's right to my right over here. 140 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: And I'm being being the nerd that I am. 141 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: I've got the New Day Funko set sitting here on 142 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: my office studio. 143 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 8: I do have to tell a short story somewhat related. 144 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 8: But when I got back into wrestling, I think this 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 8: was like right around well, I think it was before 146 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 8: you guys hosted the WrestleMania so I think it was 147 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 8: like at least a year or two before that. But 148 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 8: got a buddy sat him down, like, yeah, let me 149 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 8: show you this, and you guys came out first, and 150 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 8: they're like, what the hell is this? I was like, 151 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 8: trust me, it's like, you know, at this time, I 152 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 8: think you guys were more kind of heal ish. I 153 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 8: was like, well, you know, they're very positive to the 154 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 8: point where people hate him, you know, and all this, 155 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 8: and you know, it was it was. It was a 156 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 8: hard cell. But now now he's that's their favorite group, 157 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 8: you know, faction or whatever. 158 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: So and that's the thing. 159 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 7: It's funny that, uh, it like it it worked out 160 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 7: how it was supposed to. 161 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to think of it like that, you know. 162 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 8: I mean I think I think turning the tie, I 163 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 8: think when you guys really became faces. I mean, it 164 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 8: was just the I mean, you you guys were already 165 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 8: kind of getting pops. She kind of reminded me of 166 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 8: like the Rock when he was you know, supposed to 167 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 8: be that ultimate bad guy, but everyone was quoting him 168 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 8: and then you know, you had to turn him face. 169 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 8: So same kind of thing. Like I mean, when you 170 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 8: guys were officially crossed over, it was just like, holy crap, 171 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 8: Like the crowds were just wild. 172 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a it's a weird thing. And uh, Tyler 173 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 7: Breeze and I would always talk about. 174 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: This when we're in developmental together. We talked about it now. 175 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 7: Still it's uh, it's always weird to be in that 176 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 7: position of trying to be like the good guy, especially 177 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 7: in this day and age, because like in the eighties, 178 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 7: it's like, you know, you slap hand, you gotta smile 179 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 7: on your face, you say nice things to the kids, 180 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 7: and everybody's like, okay, cool, I'm gonna cheer for this guy. 181 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 7: But it's like in the way that we were doing, 182 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 7: especially in the most over the top sense of that 183 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 7: it's the dark meat babyface, you know what I'm saying. 184 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 7: It allowed us to kind of take that that emotion 185 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 7: of cynicism that I think is more prevalent now than 186 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 7: than in any other time, and lack of a better term, 187 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 7: like use it to our advantage. It's like, Okay, well, 188 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 7: if I was watching, I would hate these guys. This 189 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 7: would be so obnoxious, And luckily it was like a 190 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 7: good kind of hate where we would hear the hate 191 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 7: rather than not hear the hate. 192 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, you don't want to go home heat exactly. 193 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 7: So so we've always been very thankful that that was 194 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 7: the case, because you never know how stuff is gonna 195 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 7: work out. You can always hope and believe in yourself 196 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 7: and stuff, but you never are one hundred percent sure. 197 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: So you're actually out there doing it. 198 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 7: So again, like just super was, it's a very humbling 199 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 7: experience knowing where we started with everybody and where we 200 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 7: eventually got you with everybody. 201 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been it's been crazy, so you uh, you know, 202 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 8: kind of even going back to like your n w 203 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 8: A days, I mean you and Hayden Young were the 204 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 8: tag team. 205 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: Chance Yeah, yeah, I mean. 206 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 8: That that was like you guys held those belts for 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 8: a really long time. Also, on a personal note, you 208 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 8: were voted most popular wrestler in the n w A. 209 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: What was We'll tell you a story. Can I tell 210 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: you story about yeah? 211 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 8: Please? 212 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: Please? 213 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 7: Pretty I'm pretty sure somebody drove around the different people's 214 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 7: neighborhoods and still their Wi Fi to vote for me 215 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 7: from different ideas? 216 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: What And I'm totally okay with that. 217 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, obviously NBA is a legendary promotion, 218 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 8: so I wouldn't Yeah, of course I. 219 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: Wish that was the case. What I mean, no, as 220 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the Wi Fi not w A w Yeah. 221 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, let me just get get everything set streams A joke. 222 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: Wa okay, we are recording. 223 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't need we don't need the headline of Xavier 224 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: Woods bashes n w A on podcast. 225 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 8: I'm like, wait, what happened the guy at homes like, 226 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 8: I still Wi Fi to vote for you? 227 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: Brother? That was me? 228 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: That was me by God? 229 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 8: So yeah, so yeah, yeah, what was you What was 230 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 8: your time like in in in the NBA. I mean 231 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 8: that was kind of a uh, I don't know what 232 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 8: you call it lean times maybe, but they weren't you know, 233 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 8: it wasn't worth. They were in the seventies and eighties 234 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 8: and all that kind of stuff. So like, what was 235 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 8: that run like? And then, you know, have you kind 236 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 8: of kept up much with the resurgence over the last 237 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 8: couple of years, you know, the new product they've been 238 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 8: putting out. 239 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 7: No, so I would be honest, like I don't. I 240 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 7: don't really watch much wrestling, which is changing because Breeze 241 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 7: and I are starting to watch ECW from the very beginning. 242 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: Oh nice Championship. 243 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: Wrestling all the way through, and we'd be watching a lot. 244 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 8: But I gotta go back and watch sorry to cut 245 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 8: you up, I gotta go back and watch the when 246 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 8: Shane Douglas threw the NBA title down, and I I 247 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 8: only read about that magazine. I've never I don't know 248 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 8: much about it specifically, but it just that sounds monumental. 249 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 8: I want to go back and investigate that. 250 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 7: It's it's awesome stuff. And we started, so we started 251 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 7: from ninety three. So like Sandman is like still a 252 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 7: beach guy that's incredible, white suit and a surfboard, and 253 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 7: it's like somebody said, uh, I was like, oh this 254 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 7: this is tainting my my memory of Sandman. 255 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: And somebody said, if you can't. 256 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 7: Rock with beach Sandman, you don't deserve drunk uncle sand Nope, yeah. 257 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 8: Same thing. You don't you know stunning Steve Austin. If 258 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 8: you don't like him, you can't get stone called. 259 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, you gotta you gotta let people go on the journey. 260 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 7: But with with n w A the weird thing about that. 261 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 7: So at that point, I'm I'm in college. I'm wrestling 262 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 7: around as much as I can. I am, so school 263 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 7: for me. I went to Firman University the Harvard South 264 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 7: that's a fact actually, yes, top ten most beautiful campuses 265 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 7: on the planet. Yeah, So we went to school Monday 266 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 7: through Friday. And so eventually in school I was wrestling. 267 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 7: I found a place next to the school where I 268 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 7: get to wrestle Tuesday nights, and we would sometimes train 269 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 7: Thursday nights. I'd definitely wrestle somewhere Friday night, and then 270 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 7: I'd wrestle Saturday, and then sometimes I'd wrestle twice on 271 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 7: two shows on Sunday and then drive back to school. 272 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 7: And that was like my four year college experience. No parties, 273 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 7: no frat stuff. I had my friends out like I 274 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 7: lived with and that were on my hall. But like 275 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 7: I didn't I missed I say missed out, but I 276 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 7: traded that kind of college experience for this weird like 277 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 7: work study program that I bade for myself. 278 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 8: It's almost like an internship pretty. 279 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: Much because I wasn't getting paid, I'll tell you that, 280 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: And so I want to say it was you know what. 281 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: I met him there. 282 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 7: I don't remember how I ended up getting booked at 283 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 7: n w A, but I I went to watch a 284 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 7: show and I just for some reason thought that I 285 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 7: wasn't ready. I was just not super confident in my 286 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 7: skills in the ring. And it's like, oh my god, 287 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 7: this is in w A, Like I can't even I 288 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 7: can't even like leave a tape here, like, oh my god, 289 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 7: I've been wrestling long enough. But I was watching some 290 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 7: guys go over some things in the ring. I want 291 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 7: to say it was like sur and Arrow and Adrian Hawks, 292 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 7: and I showed them what I thought would work with this, 293 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 7: like something they were doing with the chair. They're like, hey, yeah, cool, 294 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 7: thanks man, and that was it and I didn't think 295 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 7: anything of it. And I ended up talking to the 296 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 7: promoter to like try to hey, I wrestled, but I 297 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 7: just like to what can I run your cameras or 298 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 7: something like. I was trying to get in like some way, 299 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 7: but definitely not to wrestle. Like it was like I'm 300 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 7: not good enough and he's like, yeah, sure you can 301 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 7: come through. And the next week I think they they 302 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 7: let me wrestle, and it was because like sal and 303 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 7: I think Adrian talked to them and they were two 304 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 7: guys that kind of took me under their wing there 305 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 7: and really helped me out a lot, but like definitely 306 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 7: with confidence issues, just like with presents in the ring, 307 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 7: because they've been doing a lot more than I had. 308 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 7: And I eventually met my partner, Hayden Young. We became 309 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 7: a tag team. Because as much as I love pro wrestling, 310 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 7: like singles matches are incredible and all of these one 311 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 7: on one competitions, Like I since the day I saw wrestling, 312 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 7: I've been obsessed with tag tea wrestling. It's just it's 313 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 7: the greatest form of wrestling on the planet to me 314 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 7: because there's so many more pieces on the chessboard and 315 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 7: they all only move certain directions, but they all have 316 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 7: to work together is to create this beautiful masterpiece and 317 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 7: when everything is clicking to me, and I know this 318 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 7: might not be everybody's opinion. To me, a great tag 319 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 7: match beats a great singles match any day of the week, 320 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 7: just because to understand what actually goes into that and 321 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 7: where all the bodies go and make sure nobody dies 322 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: in the process, you know what I mean. Like it's 323 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 7: such a such a crazy situation, and so i've I 324 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 7: was always leaning towards tags, tag teams. I just I 325 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 7: enjoy the bond of friendship as well. Thrown up on 326 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 7: Ninja Turtles and Power Angers. I always believe that people 327 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 7: are great, but people are better when they're together. So 328 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 7: when I liked up with Hayden, he was like of 329 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 7: the same mindset and he was like this crazy high flyer. 330 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: I was this son of a Paulo Creed kind of thing. 331 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 7: So I was the charisma, he was the pizazz. And 332 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 7: luckily it worked out for us there and people, you know, 333 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 7: they liked this, and so that was our stick for 334 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 7: a good while. 335 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: The awesome attraction. 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's awesome. Which speaking of tag teams, we want 337 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 9: to also talk about your time in TNA, where you 338 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 9: won the tag titles with Jay Lethal, which is awesome. Yeah, 339 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 9: and also being a member of the front Line. So 340 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 9: what was it like being a part of TNA, and like, 341 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 9: how is it different from being an NWA. 342 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 7: So obviously to jump to a larger company at the 343 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 7: time being on TV, and I was extremely lucky to get. 344 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: A shot to be in a tag match, so put 345 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: a backstrack a little bit. 346 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: So this was when AJ just gotten done tagging with 347 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 7: danielso was going to go back on the singles run 348 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 7: and again in situation, Salernaro was like, Hey, do you 349 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 7: want to work out with AJ for this week? 350 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: They want to kind of get his win back. 351 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 7: And I was like, what serious? And so I was 352 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 7: working at the daycare at the time. That's the only 353 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 7: other like job that I've had. Well, I worked in 354 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 7: a biopsychology lab, but daycare was the way I made 355 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 7: money to. 356 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: Pay for my wrestling habit. 357 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, and so I went to my boss and I 358 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 7: was like and she and my boss at the daycare 359 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 7: was my teacher at the. 360 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: Daycare when I went there when I was little. 361 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: Oh wow, So. 362 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: She knew everything, like everything about wrestling. And I told her. 363 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 7: I was like, Hey, I've got a shot to do 364 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 7: something and I have like next week off. She's like, 365 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 7: that's really short notice, but it sounds really awesome for you. 366 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 7: So yes, and so so we worked out with AJ 367 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 7: all week and then I don't know, this was maybe 368 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 7: a few months later, They're doing Bound for Glory and 369 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 7: uh AJ calls me and he's like, Hey, are you 370 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: going to Bound for Glory? And I was like, yeah, 371 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 7: I was gonna go. I mean, you know it's close. 372 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 7: Uh like okay, cool? And he hung up and I 373 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 7: was like what. 374 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: Great? 375 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 7: And so like next week after that calls me. He 376 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 7: was here, are you sitting down? Like I can if 377 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 7: I sat down? He was like, I got you a match? 378 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: Wait a j what He's like yeah, And I'm thinking like, 379 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: oh cool, like like a like a like a dark 380 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: match or something to start the show off. 381 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 7: So I'm like freaking out right. He's like, all right, cool, 382 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 7: it'll be a tag match. I'm like, all right, cool, 383 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 7: Like do you do you know who I'm wrestling? 384 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 385 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: I don't like, I don't want to ask questions because 386 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 7: I don't want to overstep anything. Like it's good, like's 387 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 7: in this conversation and I can be happy. I don't 388 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 7: want you give me any bad news. And it's like, yeah, 389 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 7: you're gonna tag with truth, And in my brain I 390 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 7: was like, but the truth is wrestling his bad partner's 391 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 7: back man Jones and he can't wrestle and and they're 392 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 7: wrestling a j and. 393 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: A j aj am I on the show. 394 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 7: He goes, yeah, we're opening mag see a kid, and 395 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 7: he hung up. 396 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's awesome. 397 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 7: And so the day came and we had the match, 398 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 7: and that's uh, that was the first time that I 399 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 7: was busted open, like my face got rowed into the concrete. 400 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 7: I at the last part of the match and I 401 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 7: and my whole. 402 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: My whole is left. My left eye. 403 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 7: I think, yeah, my left eye just like exploded, like 404 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 7: my eyebrow. 405 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: And so luckily the match was like done. 406 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 7: So I get taken to the back and they you know, 407 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 7: they stitch me up and I've got whatever like seven 408 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 7: eight stitches in my my eyebrow, and I'm but I'm like, 409 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 7: I'm elated. And the better thing is I hate needles. 410 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 7: I de spise it. So I'm freaking out. When they say, oh, 411 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 7: we got to give you stitches, I'm like, oh god, 412 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 7: oh God. And then but everybody's in the room and 413 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 7: so I'm like nineteen years old and there's all these 414 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 7: guys that I watch on TV that I've looked up 415 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 7: to for so long, and I want to be like, 416 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 7: are in there, And I'm like, oh care cry buss cool, yes, 417 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 7: it just that's that's fine, no big deal. And so 418 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 7: I drove wherever it was in Georgia. I drove back 419 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 7: to Green West, South Carolina, and uh, my my roommates 420 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 7: were all freaking out. We're losing our minds, like just 421 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 7: jumping around the apartment. 422 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: And uh. 423 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 7: The next day, so I had an eight am class 424 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 7: the next day and my professor was my biopsychology professor, 425 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 7: doctor Honorey Rice, one of my favorite people on the planet. 426 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 7: I have a ski cap on and I've got the 427 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 7: whole thing like over the left side of my face, 428 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 7: and uh, he's like, hey, how was your He's like 429 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 7: he comes and walks into class and classes started and 430 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 7: he's like, Austin, how was how was last night? Because 431 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 7: I tell him everything and everyone's like, what are you 432 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 7: talking about? It's like, oh, Austin was on TV last 433 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 7: night and I'm like hiding in the corner because I 434 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 7: don't want anybody to see my face. 435 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 3: And he was like what and doctor Rice is like, yeah, 436 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: what what happened? How was it? And I pulled my 437 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: hat up and there was like a baseball on my eye. 438 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: He goes, gosh, so you lost. And then after that 439 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: it was maybe maybe like a month or two. 440 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 7: I got a call and they were going to offer 441 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 7: me a deal and I'm so excited. 442 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: I call my parents. 443 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god, I got My goal was 444 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 7: to get signed to wrestle on TV before I graduated, 445 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 7: Like and it's happening. My mom was like, you're still 446 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 7: in school, like you still have to finish this is 447 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 7: senior year. And I'm like, yeah, I do, and I will, 448 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 7: like okay, well figure it out. That was the whole thing, 449 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 7: Like they'll help me in anything in life. But my 450 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 7: mom said, this is your dream. You have to do 451 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 7: this and make the decisions yourself. That's how you have 452 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 7: to handle it because you have to know that you 453 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 7: did it and if you failed at it, it was your fault, 454 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 7: and if you succeeded, it was your fault. 455 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: This is your dream. And I was like, that's the 456 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: best lesson I've ever met got in my life. 457 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 458 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 7: And so I had a call with Jeff Jarrett and 459 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 7: he was like, hey, so you know what do you think? 460 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 7: And again, me nineteen years old talking to Jeff Jared, 461 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 7: I'm thinking like uh jeh, like. 462 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm freaking out. 463 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm freaking out. 464 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 7: And so I'm like, I this is such a such 465 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: a like great thing that you guys are offering me 466 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 7: I appreciate it so much and I want to sign this, 467 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 7: but I have to finish school. 468 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: He was like okay, and like, I'm what does what 469 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 3: does okay mean? 470 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 7: He's like, well, can we put you on a half 471 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 7: schedule until you graduate and then put you on a 472 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 7: full schedule. 473 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: What you do? 474 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 7: Like, well, that'll be okay. Can you sign it then? 475 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 7: And I was like yeah. He goes, all right, Cool'll 476 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 7: send it to you in a few days. Like wait what, 477 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 7: And so I'm I'm I go back to my my roommates. 478 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 7: I'm like, guys, uh, I just got signed And I 479 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 7: were like wait, wait, wait what, I'm like. 480 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: No, like, I got signed to DNA, and so again 481 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: we have like another freak out party. Yeah, and so 482 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: it was. It was very uh, I don't know. 483 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 7: It just felt really good to be able to, uh, 484 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: to be able to do what I was trying to 485 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 7: do for so long, especially because I had previously sent 486 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 7: like my my resume and all stuff everywhere. And when 487 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 7: I say resume, I mean my my folder with my 488 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 7: eight byton on the front, with my my cover letter 489 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 7: and my resume behind it, my business card, my LightScribe 490 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 7: DVD with a bunch of my matches on it. I 491 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 7: sent that everywhere and the only people to reply was 492 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 7: WWE and they said, you know not right. We want 493 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 7: to reply because, like, you put so much effort into 494 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 7: this resume. You didn't just send us a random flimsy 495 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 7: DVD in a box, and we want to let you know, 496 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 7: like we're not hiring guys right now that are as 497 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 7: small issue. So that's the that's the main reason. So 498 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 7: but the pendulum might swing back at some point. So 499 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 7: when I got picked up by T and A, uh, 500 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 7: it was just like this feeling of elation because you know, 501 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 7: once you are are trying to get a job and 502 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 7: like the largest company in the world is. 503 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: Like you're not good enough for us. I'm like, oh, 504 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: this stabs me and my soul. 505 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 7: But then getting a job right there, it's like, okay, perfect, 506 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 7: this is this is this is just as good. I'm 507 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: so fighted and so I was just I'm very happy 508 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 7: that I got the opportunity to be a part of 509 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 7: P and A, especially at that time. 510 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: There were so many. 511 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 7: Talented people there that I was able to learn very 512 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 7: important lessons from that. I don't think I would have 513 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 7: been anywhere near successful in WW if I didn't learn 514 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 7: those lessons. 515 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 8: Well, we were looking up some of the members of 516 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 8: the front line. I mean it's like a who's who 517 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 8: you know? Samojoe, AJ Styles, Jay Lethal, P. D Williams, 518 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 8: Eric Young, ODIB MotorCity machine Guns. You I mean, that's 519 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 8: a that's a heck of squad, you know. 520 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, uh, well debatable. You got to watch the footage. 521 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: It doesn't say that really. 522 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, well on paper, so yeah, but yeah, yeah, it's man, 523 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 8: that's crazy. Yeah, I didn't realize. I didn't realize you 524 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 8: signed with him so young. I just assumed you're, you know, 525 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 8: twenty five, twenty six or something. 526 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: No, it was, Yeah, it was like six months before 527 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 7: I graduated college. So so when I when I walked 528 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 7: my diploma, I walked and went to like get on 529 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 7: an airplane to go to a show the next. 530 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Day, and it just had have been a surreal moment. 531 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 7: Though it's absolutely insane, especially because so my my degrees 532 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 7: were in psychology and philosophy, so I was able to 533 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 7: double major. And as I walked across the stage, took 534 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 7: the hand, got the diploma. 535 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: And go to my dad. 536 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 7: He goes, hey, congrats, and now you can sit around 537 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 7: and think about why you don't have a job, And 538 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 7: I was like, how how long. 539 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: He've been waiting to say that to me? Yeah, but 540 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: he clearly thought of it like sophomore year. But then 541 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 3: I clearly have a job, but he still had to 542 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: get it in. Yeah. 543 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 8: I mean if he doesn't bust balls, like what is 544 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 8: what is he? You know? 545 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 546 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: So that's what that's what Dad's got to do, right 547 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: you know. 548 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 549 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: So kind of in between your time with tn A 550 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: and WW, you got to find a new Japan Pro 551 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: wrestling tagging with Coda Abushi. What was that experience like? 552 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: And is Abushi as magical as we all think he is? 553 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: I flew there for a day. 554 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 7: Wow, I like landed that the night before or like 555 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 7: the afternoon before, slept, woke up, went to the show, 556 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 7: flew out the next morning. 557 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: Wow. 558 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 8: Wow that was that the Tokyo down. 559 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 560 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 7: So it was my first time in Japan. Beyond excited. 561 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 7: I'm so pumped and it was like, hey, this is 562 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 7: a super short trip and I'm like why It's like 563 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 7: it was so it was the Super Junior Tag Tournament 564 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 7: and so I hadn't had any experience calling matches with 565 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: people that where we didn't share a common language, and 566 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 7: so I was I was super nervous about how things 567 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 7: were going to go down. I didn't know if there 568 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 7: were like a bunch of people who spoke English and 569 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 7: might be able to be the middleman for me to 570 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 7: help translate, or if they could translate the Japanese back 571 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 7: to me and like just tell me what's going on. 572 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 7: But uh, it was. It one of the easiest things ever. 573 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 7: I had nothing to worry about. All of those guys 574 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 7: were so incredibly good at like the nonverbal use of 575 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 7: wrestling too. So even if I didn't understand something just 576 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 7: like a hand motion or the way like the body 577 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 7: would be positioned, like okay, cool, we're all good. This 578 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 7: is all the same language regardless where. 579 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: We are, right. 580 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 7: But yeah, it was. It was super fun. Like I said, 581 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 7: first Super Juniors tag and I wanted to go and 582 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 7: like try to do all like the crazy what At 583 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 7: the time, I was like, oh, this like the cool 584 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 7: like Japanese style. I was like I want to do this, 585 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 7: And they're like, hey man, you realize you're like one 586 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 7: of the very few Americans here and you're doing like 587 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 7: a dancing boxing gimmick. You realize, like, we don't really 588 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 7: do that over here, So why don't you just play 589 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 7: into that people will like it. I was like, no, 590 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 7: but I want to. I want to do this stuff 591 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 7: like I'm the We're telling you just try it. And 592 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 7: so I went out and like played it up even 593 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 7: harder than I did at home, and people like I 594 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 7: did like a spin and a split, and all I 595 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 7: heard was oh, And I was like, you know what, 596 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 7: I can do this. 597 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: I like this a lot. No, but yeah it was. 598 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 7: It was a good time, and luckily I got a 599 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 7: chance to go back. But the going backstory is super 600 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 7: weird because I was going to go for three months 601 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 7: and I was like begging to stay in the jojo 602 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 7: because like like you said, I was wrestling at like 603 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 7: n w A and I just kind of was in 604 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 7: the South Southeastern region before I got signed to TNA, 605 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 7: so I never got to go up north to like 606 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 7: Philly or Chicago, and never went out west to Cali 607 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 7: for like the indies, and so I had a very 608 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 7: Southern style, Like we. 609 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: Talk a lot more. 610 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 7: It's all it's all glitz and glam, aarisma and and 611 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 7: not fighting really, you know, it's it's it's the characters 612 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 7: and the personalities and so that's all I was. And 613 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 7: so when I got to TNA, I realized, oh my god, 614 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 7: like exhibsion, like I'm gonna I can do it, like 615 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna do a hip toss here, if that's that's cool, 616 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 7: arm drag maybe, And so I was always tried to 617 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 7: learn that type of like high energy, fast paced, like 618 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 7: hard hitting style, and that's what I really didn't really 619 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 7: learned at the Jojo. And so they told me it 620 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: was full so I wouldn't be able to stay. But then, 621 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 7: like very suit shortly before I left, it was maybe 622 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 7: like three weeks before three or four weeks before I 623 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 7: left to go over there, I got a call from 624 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 7: WWE saying that they wanted to bring me in for 625 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 7: a tryout, but the tryout in the same week that 626 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 7: I would fly out Nugipan. So me, I'm not gonna 627 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 7: be like, hey, I got I got something else to do. 628 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 7: I was like, uh sure, and just didn't say anything. 629 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 7: And so I go down there and we do like 630 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 7: the first three days. I think myday Tuesday, Wednesday, and 631 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 7: then they had like the show Thursday, and then I 632 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 7: think they do something else with us on Friday. But 633 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 7: after Wednesday, night or Wednesday night came and I told 634 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 7: him like, oh, hey, you know when we're ending practice, 635 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 7: you know, thank you so much for this opportunity. 636 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: I have something that I have to leave for. 637 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 7: I drove down so I could drive back up Wednesday 638 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 7: night fly out Thursday morning, Tokyo and I was like, yeah, 639 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 7: I gotta fly out, so I have to leave night 640 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 7: and John Lornis was there. He looked at me and 641 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 7: he's like, you're telling me that we're giving you the 642 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 7: opportunity that you've been trying to achieve your entire life, 643 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 7: and you're gonna leave halfway through it. And I said, sir, 644 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 7: I know how it sounds. I am so sorry I 645 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 7: have to do this. And he's like, what's so important 646 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 7: that you have to leave the pier that I before 647 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 7: we had a conversation about me coming. 648 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: Out for tryout. 649 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 7: I was booked to go to New Japan and I 650 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 7: have to make good on that, on that booking, and 651 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 7: he was like. 652 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: Oh you're going to New Japan. Oh, get the hell 653 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: out of here. 654 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 7: Have fun, kid, And then like shortly after that, they 655 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 7: like when it hired me pretty quick, and then I 656 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 7: told New Japan it's rather than staying for like three months. 657 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 7: I was there for like a week and then they 658 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 7: sent me back so I could start with WWE, which 659 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 7: was like to me, I was like, that's super I 660 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 7: don't know, upstanding of you to be like, hey, you 661 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 7: know what, we get it a big opportunity for you. You 662 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 7: go ahead, we'll figure it out. So I was always 663 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 7: ultra thankful to them for that, rather than being upset 664 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 7: about it or being mean to me or mad at 665 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 7: me or anything. 666 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 667 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 8: I hope at some point that the New Japan and 668 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 8: WWE can do stuff again. I had just seen I 669 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 8: think this was from ninety but it was I mean, 670 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 8: I to my knowledge, I think it was a new 671 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 8: Japan show. But the Ultimate Warrior was the main event 672 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 8: against the Million Dollar Man and same thing. They had 673 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 8: the same entrances that they had in the States, and 674 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 8: it was just Japanese announcers you know, doing it and everything. 675 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 8: I think I saw. Who else was it? Well, you 676 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 8: was Hogan in great MOODA that's incredible. That's probably the 677 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 8: best match Hogan ever had. But there's somebody there was 678 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 8: something else that was like that? Oh it was it 679 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 8: was a Hogan against was he fighting? Was it Stan hand. 680 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 8: I don't remember anyways, but I mean there obviously was 681 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 8: a working relationship, and I think that I think now 682 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 8: would be the perfect time to kind of, you know, 683 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 8: bridge that again and try to get it combined. I 684 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 8: don't know events agrees with that, but I think it 685 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 8: would be cool. I mean, at one time there was 686 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 8: that little alliance there. 687 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 7: So I feel like there's always the prophecy of when 688 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 7: the time is right, all of the planets are aligned 689 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 7: and all things shall come together as one. 690 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, and then nobody would have to 691 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: bash everybody's and we can all just watch wrestling together 692 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: as wrestling fans in harmony. 693 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 7: I just want everybody to be happy or something for everybody. 694 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 7: I'd say, So, somebody gave me a very good phrase, 695 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 7: don't yuck my yum. 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That's twenty percent 746 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: off for free shipping at manscap dot com. 747 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Use the code battleground. 748 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: It's time to grab twenty twenty by the horns by 749 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: shaving that front trunk of yours. 750 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 8: Well, you said it, I mean there's tons of Yeah, 751 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 8: I mean, I think there is something for everyone right now. 752 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 8: So if you're complaining now, I think you're just looking 753 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 8: for an argument. 754 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: So the one thing I always find interesting about wrestling 755 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: fans in general is we always want to complain about 756 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: wanting something different, and then when something different happens, everybody 757 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: just completely craps on it. 758 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't think that on today's. 759 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: Solely wrestling fans. 760 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 7: I think that's just kind of like society currently as 761 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 7: it is, you know, and in any form of entertainment, 762 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 7: it's it's a very instant gratification type of society. 763 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: And I'm very guilty of that well myself. 764 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 7: But I think that sometimes we don't give things the 765 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 7: proper time to play out. 766 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: We don't want to. We want to read the whole 767 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: book on day one, yes. 768 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 7: Rather than allowing chapter one to be read to us, 769 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 7: and then the next week chapter two, and then maybe 770 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 7: the next month chapter three. But over time we get 771 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 7: to see this beautiful story play out of things. And 772 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 7: I think if, if, if all of us would collectively 773 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 7: make an attempt to just be a little patient sometimes 774 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 7: with things, And I think that movies would be much 775 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 7: more enjoyed, that music would be much more enjoyed, that 776 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 7: wrestling would be much more enjoyed, because because again it's 777 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 7: just don't yuck to my yam. 778 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 3: If you don't like it, that's okay, total, that's totally fine. 779 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of like, you know, def Jam Vendetta, that 780 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: happened Monday night, give a some. 781 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: Time, hell of a game, and if we don't have 782 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: a remake set stat we got a problem. We got 783 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 3: a hell of the problem. 784 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: I remember playing that game. 785 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 7: Yes, somebody made a graphic because you know, like the 786 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 7: cover of Vendetta has the guy in the hood. Yes, 787 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: I saw a picture on Twitter and it was like 788 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 7: if somebody put Shane inside of it. And I was like, 789 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 7: because like I know that people are like messing around 790 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 7: and joking, but like I'm dead ass serious about this. Yeah, 791 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 7: like I want this game. It would be It would 792 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 7: be so good because you know, isn't isn't isn't not? 793 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 7: Isn't Justin Bieber technically a deaf jam artist? 794 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 3: He Yeah, Justin Bieber would be in this game with 795 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: like with all of these deaf jam artists who would 796 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: think like, oh, stereotypical deaf jam. Yeah, but then you 797 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: got Justin Bieber in the mix too. Let's plus it's 798 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: w W branded too. Why wow? 799 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: Is it not exactly the thing yet? 800 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 8: And it's like things that you like, the big companies 801 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 8: don't think fans would want that thing would sell out 802 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 8: day one. I mean, like the original game kind of 803 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 8: has a soft spot for most people. And then, like 804 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 8: you said, who wouldn't want to punch Justin Bieber in 805 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 8: the face? 806 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: Like you know, well, I'm I'm picking him. I'm picking 807 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 3: him and beating everybody up with them. 808 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go. 809 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: I mean, just the run of thes Justin Bieber versus 810 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: DMX and deaf Jam Vendetta bro O. 811 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: God, I'd be losing my mind Justin. 812 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm sitting here looking at the lineup, 813 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: and you know, with as many rappers that have beef 814 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: with Joe Budden if you put deaf Jam Vendetta and 815 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: Joe Budden's a character on there. 816 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 7: Man, especially if you have like Beat, Joe Budden is 817 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 7: the mode. 818 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: But he's just so incredibly hard. 819 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 8: Yes, like Tyson from Punch Out hard, like his big 820 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 8: boss man. And then you think about the modern graphics 821 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 8: and stuff like, oh my gosh, yes, incredible. 822 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: Man, I'm looking at the deaf Jam roster right now, 823 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: like the actual. 824 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: That's what I was just looking at. 825 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 7: Okay, Rihanna Run, DMC, got Beastie Boys back in there. 826 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: Too, Mass New Day Lady Gaga is a deaf Jam artist. 827 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 8: I think technically, yeh bts bs, they're not deaf Jam. 828 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 8: I think deaf Jam. I think that, like I think 829 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 8: there's the parent company that owns def Jam. 830 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: So I think then there's like the umbrella. 831 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that. But still I think that's enough. 832 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 8: I think that's enough coverage to throw them in the game. 833 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, look Slayer too. All right, Sorry, this is not 834 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 3: relevant anything. 835 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 8: So we're okay. I think we're gonna skip a little bit. 836 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 8: So where are we at? 837 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: Okay? 838 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 8: I think we're gonna do number seven. 839 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: All right. 840 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 8: So New Day is not only the longest reigning tag 841 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 8: team champions in the history of the dev W. Congratulations 842 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 8: you also just the faction itself is also the longest historied. 843 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 8: That's not the word I'm looking for. 844 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: Uh, tenured you could tell that you've been you've been. 845 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 8: Yes, you've been a faction the longest. 846 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: I was trying to think of the word too, and 847 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 3: I couldn't, so I was just like, yeah, I'm gonna 848 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 3: lay out. 849 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 8: Yeah, So okay, Yes, you guys were voted Tag Team 850 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 8: of the Year two years in a row by Pro 851 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 8: Wrestling Illustrated, Thank you, mister Meltzer, and voted Best Gimmick 852 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 8: by Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Do accolades like that matter to you, guys, 853 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 8: or do you just try not to dwell on it? 854 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 8: Or you know what, what's your opinion of you know, 855 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 8: stuff like that. 856 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: I think it's great when it's positive. 857 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 8: No, No, it's a good point. 858 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 7: It's it's cool because it's people who are like actual 859 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 7: fans of of the wrestling product, you know, So it's 860 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 7: definitely Again, I can keep thinking, it's like a humbling 861 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 7: experience to say, like oh, like this group that this random, 862 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 7: like nerdy kid from Georgia happened to like make his 863 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 7: way into is winning these awards and as these accolades 864 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 7: and it's breaking records, like it's uh, it's it's like 865 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 7: every moment is kind of real once you get to 866 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 7: a certain point, because people will ask us like, oh, 867 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 7: did you did you think this was going to happen? 868 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 7: Did you know in your soul like that you guys 869 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 7: would achieve something like this, And it's like no, like weird, 870 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 7: just three dudes who are really good friends and wanted 871 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 7: to be on TV together, and like that's that's always 872 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 7: the goal is to just have fun with our friends 873 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 7: on TV. And I feel like that's kind of what 874 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 7: makes it work because when people see us, say whether 875 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 7: they like us or not, you can sense that genuine connection, 876 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 7: that genuine human connection, connection that is completely void of 877 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 7: like toxic masculinity that you see all over the place 878 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 7: on television and entertainment. So I think people people understand 879 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 7: the point of the group. Whether people aren't super excited 880 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 7: about like the kitty kid friendly aspects of it, like 881 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 7: that's whatever. I feel like any mean logical adult can understand, 882 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 7: like the importance of our presence and wrestling, and it's it's. 883 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 3: Really cool to see people. 884 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 7: Enjoying it in ways that you wouldn't normally see people 885 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 7: enjoying it. 886 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 3: For instance, like. 887 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 7: When we started up with like the Unicorn things and 888 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 7: the studios and all that stuff, there were so many 889 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 7: grown adult men who were like, hey, my young daughter 890 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 7: didn't want anything to do with wrestling. She wanted nothing up. 891 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 7: She wouldn't even be in the room when I turn 892 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 7: it on. But now she sees New Days. She doesn't 893 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 7: know that y'all are called New Day. She just says, 894 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 7: I like the Unicorn guys, and she wanted his shirt, 895 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 7: so I got her one and I got one too, 896 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 7: And now she wants to come to a show with me. 897 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 7: And now she wants like action figures, and now she 898 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 7: wants to watch the pay per views and seeing that 899 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 7: us doing like the most the most ridiculous things that 900 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 7: we can do on television just to see, like what's funny, 901 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 7: what makes people laugh, Like is creating this genuine expperience 902 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 7: with this this guy and his daughter that may not 903 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 7: have happened otherwise through wrestling. And so it's stuff like 904 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 7: that that really makes it a memorable experience because like, 905 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 7: like we've talked about millions of times, like as a kid, 906 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 7: you want to get into wrestling because of like the 907 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 7: lights and the action and it's crazy with the crowds 908 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 7: and the costumes and all this stuff. But then when 909 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 7: you actually get into it, you find out there's so 910 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 7: many more important things than all of that, like that stuff. 911 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 7: Not to say that it doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter, 912 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 7: you know that the stuff about like the families that 913 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 7: are getting the opportunity to now experience it showing a 914 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 7: different light because of something that you've been able to 915 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 7: bring to it. Like that's that to me, that's what's 916 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 7: important about being a wrestled. 917 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 8: It's a good point. 918 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 9: Yeah. I love the connection between all you guys and 919 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 9: the New Day Phillip Power podcast. Y'all have such a 920 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 9: chemistry that's like you're so funny together but so much 921 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 9: fun at the same time. It's like, you know, I'm 922 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 9: sure I'm like everybody else. I wish like I was 923 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 9: just best friends with you guys. We call hang out together. 924 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 3: Well after after Corona we get a cure, we'll be 925 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: traveling around there. 926 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great, But yeah, the places you could 927 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: do a live podcast taping in Nashville. 928 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 7: I love that, But you know what I gotta say, 929 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 7: I gotta say I got a problem with that state though. 930 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 3: Oh I'm a firming guy. We have big heat with 931 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: that state. 932 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 8: Oh are you are you talking about Tennessee. 933 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about Oh he's talking about Ashville. Oh 934 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: you said Ashville? 935 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 3: Sorry, wait what'd you say? 936 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: We said Nashville? 937 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: You said Nashville. You know what, disregard that last minute. 938 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 4: I do love Asheville. I love all the Brewers there. 939 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 5: But. 940 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: There we brought it back full Circleville. 941 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the college rivalries are nonsense. Don't mind. 942 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 4: I guess we are still recording. 943 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 8: I mean, Tennessee is in the news for like all 944 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 8: the wrong reasons right now. 945 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: So when you the worst being of coronavirus. 946 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I was like, oh god, what do we 947 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 8: do now? 948 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 7: Everybody feels like their state is the one that's in 949 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 7: the news the most. Like, I think everything kind of 950 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 7: is going through some things right now. 951 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, for a while, Text was really the bad one. 952 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 8: But then I think, actually Georgia just had all those 953 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 8: teachers or all those students test positive in the schools 954 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 8: that reopened. 955 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 7: It's crazy, and it's like that situation where you don't 956 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 7: know what to do to say you can that's what 957 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 7: I'm hoping for people, or you know what. 958 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 8: To do, but you you know, don't do it because 959 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 8: it's infringing on your rights, that kind of thing. Video 960 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 8: games college rivers on. 961 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't need to be up there right now, speaking 962 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 2: of college, When can we get n ca A football 963 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 2: back on PlayStation Xbox? 964 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 3: That's what I want. I haven't trying. Everybody wants it. 965 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 3: I don't even like football, and I want. 966 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 8: I wish we're let's see. I think yes, I think, Lena, 967 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 8: are you that's me? 968 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 969 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 9: My next question. Yes, you know twenty twenty were very 970 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 9: over it. So let's go back to twenty nineteen better days. 971 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 9: And one of the greatest things that happened last year, 972 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 9: if not in the. 973 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 4: Last decade, was Kofe Mania. 974 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 8: Woo. 975 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 9: He defeated Daniel Bryan for the world title. So when 976 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 9: did you know he was going to win the belt? 977 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 9: And most importantly, can you described the moment being in 978 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 9: the ring after he won. 979 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 3: I knew he was going to win when he won 980 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: that LA before I didn't want to know. 981 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 8: No, awesome, I think I think too. Honestly, yeah, you. 982 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 4: Could feel it. 983 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: You feel like I cried. I was crying. 984 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 7: Everyone was very emotional because like because honestly, wrestling changes 985 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 7: so much. If if people really knew how often and 986 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 7: how much things just change mid match, yours head would spin. 987 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 7: And so I didn't want to know because if I 988 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 7: knew and then that didn't happen, I don't know what 989 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 7: emotions would have came out of me. I don't know 990 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 7: what I would have turned you in front of a 991 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 7: camera if that would have happened. So, yeah, the dude, 992 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 7: don't tell me. Whatever happens, happens. 993 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 3: I love you. This is going to be awesome. Let's 994 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 3: go do this. 995 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 7: And obviously, like we had and I had our part 996 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 7: in the match, but after that, no clue what's going on? 997 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 7: So too to see it happened in real time like 998 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 7: that close to the ring obviously, because like as a fan, 999 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 7: it's like, oh my god, I'm right here. But then 1000 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 7: as a former as a wrestler, as like a brother 1001 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 7: ju Kopie Kingston and as a brother to Kofi Sarkodi Mensa, 1002 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 7: like Austin Watson was losing his mind. You know that's 1003 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 7: my government name. If you're not aware. So so all 1004 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 7: of that was very, very real. And the thing that 1005 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 7: I really enjoyed about being a part of that is 1006 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 7: the fact that throughout all of the things that I 1007 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 7: know about wrestling, throughout history, like it's always a story 1008 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 7: of like that that guy getting to the top of 1009 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 7: the mountain, and he might have some buddies or something, 1010 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 7: but they're not linked in the way that that New 1011 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 7: Day's link. The story is always about that one specific person. 1012 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 7: And this story was yes about Kofy, but the way 1013 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 7: that we were allowed to intertwine like our love for 1014 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 7: him and wanting him to get to the top of 1015 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 7: the mountain, and to be a to show that just 1016 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 7: because in wrestling everything disintegrates and we can't have anything 1017 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 7: good and pure because there's always some form of toxic 1018 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 7: masculinity that says I have to be a better one 1019 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 7: than you. You can't just put your love for that 1020 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 7: person ahead of a strip of leather with metal on it, 1021 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 7: you know. That's that's the that's the importance of that 1022 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 7: we have or that we hold each other to in 1023 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,439 Speaker 7: this group. And so to be able to show that 1024 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 7: through storytelling, through matches, through promos and things like that 1025 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 7: I feel like it added this element that we haven't 1026 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 7: really seen before, again, something very different that we haven't 1027 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 7: seen because us being jealous and mad, like that's the 1028 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 7: same thing, So people want something different, like this is 1029 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 7: what we're always ultimately trying to do, and so so 1030 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 7: it's again to be a part of that and for 1031 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 7: for us have that thread of relying on E and 1032 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 7: I to win the Gauntlet match, for KOFE to at 1033 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 7: a spot like it, mh. It made that whole moment 1034 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 7: at the end, like, Okay, you're at the you're at 1035 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 7: the top of the mountain. 1036 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: Now you've got to fight. 1037 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 7: You gotta hold your own, you gotta show them that 1038 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 7: you're worth being champion. And as much of wrestling is 1039 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 7: what wrestling is to show whatever, like, that's one of them, 1040 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 7: that that situation, that that moment and mania. Literally I 1041 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 7: don't know if I've felt like that kind of emotion 1042 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 7: in my life. That's simply because obviously what I'm seeing 1043 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 7: in front of me, everything that we've been through as 1044 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 7: as a group, but all of those people in that arena, 1045 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 7: that's one of the few times there's a difference in 1046 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 7: people cheering for something and there's a and you being 1047 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 7: able to hear it. And there's a huge difference in 1048 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 7: feeling all of that energy, because it was like you 1049 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 7: could feel the heat coming off of people's bodies as 1050 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 7: the end of that match with happening and the joy 1051 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 7: the tears. I saw grown men crying and hugging each other, 1052 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 7: freaking out, and you could literally feel that. And I've 1053 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 7: never felt anything like that in my life. But it's 1054 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 7: like taking your your one set of emotions and multiplying 1055 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 7: it by a million people, it felt like, So it's 1056 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 7: not something that can be recreated. 1057 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 3: It was. 1058 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 7: It was the perfect storm and definitely the greatest moment 1059 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 7: to me, the greatest moment in rest. 1060 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 2: I've got to say, hearing you tell that story, I'm 1061 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: like getting goosebumps right now because I'm going back in 1062 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 2: my mind remembering that happening and sitting there thinking and 1063 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: all you guys were in the ring, and Kofe's kids 1064 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 2: got in there, and how of a big deal that was, 1065 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: And like, you know, you go back and you look 1066 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 2: at the videos that have been popping up all over 1067 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 2: the people of people watching it, like grown men crying 1068 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: in bars and you know, fans and everybody, and it's 1069 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 2: just it's an amazing moment that I know will go 1070 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 2: down as as has to be a top five moment 1071 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: for you. 1072 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 7: Oh one, because like on an even larger scale, it's 1073 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 7: just so Remember how earlier I said in first grade, 1074 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 7: I said I want to be a wrestler, and they 1075 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 7: laughed at me. 1076 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 3: So that's the kind of energy that I brought here. 1077 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 7: When we became a group and we constantly rep that 1078 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 7: KOFE would be champion, people. 1079 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 3: Laughed at us. 1080 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 7: I know what that feeling feels like, and I hate it, 1081 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 7: and I am it's the kind of person who understands 1082 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 7: that about himself, and I always do my best to 1083 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 7: find a way to rechannel that into a way to 1084 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 7: negate that feeling so that people understand. Simply because you 1085 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 7: don't see it doesn't mean that it's not there. If 1086 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 7: you have the problem of not being able to believe 1087 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 7: in yourself enough to think that you can't defy all odds, 1088 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,919 Speaker 7: doesn't mean you need to put that on anybody else. 1089 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 7: And that is the hitom me. It's the epitome of 1090 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 7: new Day. That's like the main thing we stand for. 1091 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 7: If you think you can get it done, you can 1092 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 7: get it done. If you don't think you can get 1093 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,479 Speaker 7: it done. You already lost. 1094 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 8: And I think a lot of people, you know, kind 1095 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 8: of playing into the cynical side of things. They weren't 1096 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 8: expecting that result at WrestleMania, just you know, there's obviously 1097 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 8: been some booking blunders over the years, and you know, 1098 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 8: I have to say that lead up to him winning 1099 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 8: was almost perfect. I mean, you know, he gets the 1100 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 8: sub in, you know, and then you have the couple 1101 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 8: because he fought I think he fought Daniel Bryan before 1102 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 8: Mania too, like non title matches or something, and then 1103 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 8: you guys had your gaunelet Like I mean, I was 1104 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 8: sitting there just like holy crap, like this is incredible. 1105 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 8: And then when he actually wanted it's like I don't 1106 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 8: even know what to say, Like this has been incredible, 1107 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 8: And I think it was just a perfect storm. And 1108 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 8: you know, obviously I think it was long overdue. You know, 1109 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 8: I think most people on the roster would it. Covey's 1110 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 8: Super Unrated probably should have happened five, six, seven years 1111 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 8: before that. 1112 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 7: But even so, and KOFE will tell you this too, 1113 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 7: like people say that, but like if it would if 1114 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 7: it would have happened like that, then it wouldn't have. 1115 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 3: Had this this energy. 1116 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 8: Oh totally. 1117 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 7: The reason it had this energy is because he should 1118 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 7: he should have. He should have, but he didn't, and 1119 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 7: that boiled. It's been sitting in a crock pot for 1120 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 7: what like even after like the five six years us 1121 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 7: in and I was sitting in the crackpot for like 1122 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 7: five more years, like bro, So it was it was time. 1123 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 7: And I think one thing that really helped it a lot. 1124 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 7: And I know, again I'm super biased in the situation, 1125 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 7: but are our stuff with the ussos and being able 1126 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 7: to have that like what three or four months deal 1127 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 7: with them where we beat the piss out of each 1128 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 7: other every night and then they came to us and 1129 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 7: it's like with with the respect thing and they just 1130 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 7: forfeited that part of the match. Like that, to me 1131 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 7: added so much to it because it's like everybody. It 1132 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 7: brought everybody back into the storyline. It was like it 1133 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 7: was like a like a pulp fiction. Yeah, all these 1134 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 7: different pieces and then at the end it all comes 1135 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 7: together and it all makes sense and it makes you 1136 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 7: feel a certain kind of way. So I think when 1137 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 7: you're when you're adding all of those things together, it's 1138 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 7: like there's a there's an idea in psychology that your 1139 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 7: in your mind, your emotions are a cup and whatever 1140 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 7: emotion is the last thing you poured in, your brain 1141 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 7: thinks the cup is full of that. So that's that's 1142 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 7: the reason why if you're on a huge like if 1143 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 7: you just got paid a million dollars whatever and then 1144 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 7: found out something terrible that negates the million dollars feeling, 1145 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 7: and your cup is extremely full of what seems like sadness, 1146 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 7: but no, underneath it is like the happiness, but you 1147 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 7: don't know that. So to be able to layer emotions 1148 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 7: like that in my in what my thought is that 1149 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 7: that mental cup with that end result being kofe winning 1150 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 7: at Mania, like it was just pouring a little bit 1151 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 7: in the cup every single week. 1152 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 3: Okay, we want you to feel this. 1153 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 7: I want you to feel this, to feel this, and 1154 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 7: want you to feel the emotion that you're gonna feel 1155 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 7: and Woffy wins and everybody felt it until I don't know, 1156 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 7: I'm gonna. 1157 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 3: Get all we're talking about it. It was dope. 1158 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, we can sit here all day long 1159 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 2: list of this because this is great storytelling that most 1160 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 2: people don't get to hear, you know, coming from somebody 1161 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 2: that was there experiencing at firsthand, just sitting here listening 1162 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: to Xavier Woods talking about that moment at WrestleMania with 1163 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 2: Kofi Kingston and the fact that he was like, I 1164 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 2: didn't even want to know until the end of the match. 1165 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 2: If I was a Xavier Woods, I would have loved 1166 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 2: to know them, but of course the raw emotion would 1167 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 2: have gone. 1168 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: But that's me. 1169 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 2: But that that wraps up Part one of our interview 1170 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 2: with Xavier Woods. 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