Speaker 1: We just have so many players, and it's fun to
Speaker 1: watch how you do his thing and pretty shut some
Speaker 1: haters up. So it's nice to be on a really
Speaker 1: good team.
Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast Studio, it's around the NFL
Speaker 2: the Monday, the Monday Show for the first time ever,
Speaker 2: the day after the Big Day. Dan Hans is here,
Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler and when you want to launch
Speaker 2: a new property and you need the charisma that will
Speaker 2: just send you through the roof and beyond you book
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa soundbites.
Speaker 3: It's that simple that made me want to run through
Speaker 3: a wall.
Speaker 4: As Nick Bosa goes at least that was like him
Speaker 4: talking some trash.
Speaker 3: I like that. He's wearing a backpack too, and.
Speaker 2: He was ready to go that Nick Bosa And Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's good. We're gonna this is the show.
Speaker 2: You know, you have the Sunday flagship that gave you
Speaker 2: a detailed rundown and everything that happened on Sunday Monday Show.
Speaker 2: This show's one of three programs that we have come
Speaker 2: in your way, one of them for NFL plus the
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football Recap coming later tonight. This show is
Speaker 2: just getting you caught up to date on everything that's
Speaker 2: happened after the games went down, after the games, after
Speaker 2: the pressers overnight, and then anything that's come across the
Speaker 2: wires we tape in early afternoon on the West coast,
Speaker 2: And that was, of course, the star defender of the Niners,
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa. After the forty nine Ers waxed Mark Cecilers
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers in the field formerly known as Hines. So
Speaker 2: not many teams will enter Week two flying as high
Speaker 2: as the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 5: I will say this though, because I love what he said,
Speaker 5: and I like that he just owns the fact that
Speaker 5: he's on a well coached, great team, and that's much
Speaker 5: more enjoyable than other scenarios. But how many haters like
Speaker 5: who is hating on brock Pertty? I think there was
Speaker 5: a lot of wait and see on brock party.
Speaker 2: I see what he's saying. He was saying this doubt
Speaker 2: there's a little bit like this idea, who the seventh
Speaker 2: round pick, small sample size blows out his elbow. Kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a Cinderella story right now,
Speaker 2: reality might hit this year, and he looked exactly the same, right.
Speaker 5: I just see doubters, haters like I mean it's a number.
Speaker 5: He's a likable care he's a bosa. Of course, like
Speaker 5: half his sentences have it hate.
Speaker 2: All right, that's you're a hater. I'm a hater. No,
Speaker 2: that guy's a hater.
Speaker 6: All the explanation needed were good.
Speaker 2: It's okay, but it's not robust, okay anything.
Speaker 3: Greg No, I think that wou so else said. I
Speaker 3: can't tap it.
Speaker 2: So all right, we're going to go through everything. Let's
Speaker 2: start with injuries. It's injury corner. It's a little of
Speaker 2: a bummer way to start, but it's a reality coming
Speaker 2: out of Sundays.
Speaker 6: Mondays are what's that?
Speaker 5: That's what you're the pieces we're picking up on Monday
Speaker 5: when I don't know why we've waited a decade to
Speaker 5: start doing Monday shows. But then you get to Tuesday,
Speaker 5: it's like eight hundred and sixty news items because it's
Speaker 5: all follow up on injuries and we're doing it now.
Speaker 2: Well, we we've corrected a loophole in the system here
Speaker 2: in year eleven. Let's start with the Baltimore.
Speaker 7: RAVEI well, that's a great point.
Speaker 2: Mark wo not looking good for their star safety Marcus Williams,
Speaker 2: who is in the second year of a five year,
Speaker 2: seventy million dollar contract. They hit the field on Sunday
Speaker 2: thinking he's going to be a key contributor all season,
Speaker 2: and now he has a pectoral injury. He might have
Speaker 2: to undergo surgery on the on the issue, and if
Speaker 2: he does, John Harboss said, Williams is consulting a doctor
Speaker 2: to weigh his options. If he does, it's it could
Speaker 2: be a season under but not certainly. But either way,
Speaker 2: he's on the shelf.
Speaker 4: Gregor, he made such a difference last year when he
Speaker 4: was on the field, and this team just seems cursed
Speaker 4: by injuries. They're already a little thin in the secondary,
Speaker 4: but the whole idea of Okay, we're gonna get Marlon
Speaker 4: Humphrey back and then our cornerback position is not that thin.
Speaker 4: And especially it doesn't matter because we have such great
Speaker 4: safety play quarterbacks really by Marcus Williams more than anyone.
Speaker 3: And they were a different team last year when he
Speaker 3: wasn't on the field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you still have Kyle Hamilton, but Geno
Speaker 5: Stone now steps in at the other safety spot.
Speaker 6: I don't know the Ravens.
Speaker 5: I feel like they probably could have been three or
Speaker 5: four wins better in playoff trips. If you take away
Speaker 5: the injuries the last couple of seasons, I mean, it's
Speaker 5: just been, like to your point, Greg, like one of
Speaker 5: the most banged up AFC teams in a rough and
Speaker 5: tumble division.
Speaker 2: Left tackle Ronnie Stanley, who's dealt with his own injury
Speaker 2: issues in recent years. He suffered as sprain knee. He's
Speaker 2: weak to week, as is center Tyler Linderbaum, who suffered
Speaker 2: an ankle in also labeled week to week. So but also,
Speaker 2: you know what you gave Lamar all that money. M's
Speaker 2: he's the star of the team.
Speaker 3: See what you're doing well.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying because sometimes it feels like you could
Speaker 2: sense the excuses being set up if the Ravens don't
Speaker 2: play well. Take quarterback, take your team through a stormy,
Speaker 2: choppy waters until you can get hopefully healthy. We shall see.
Speaker 2: They didn't do a lot on offense in Week one,
Speaker 2: but enough to win. Right.
Speaker 4: They get the Bengals this week, which is like an
Speaker 4: immediately it's immedia big matchup. It's an immediate big game here,
Speaker 4: and you don't get JK doamons back. I'm not that
Speaker 4: worried about missing JK Dumbs, although he was the one
Speaker 4: chance they had to be special there. I'd be very
Speaker 4: worried about Marcus Williams being out all season and missing
Speaker 4: too maybe the best two parts of your offensive line.
Speaker 2: The reason why the Bengals are dangerous is because they
Speaker 2: got waxed by the Browns on Sunday. And the Browns
Speaker 2: feel mighty good about themselves, but they're not feeling good
Speaker 2: about Jack Conklin, the right tackle. He's out for the season.
Speaker 2: A bad one. Mark at acl N MCL tear instantly,
Speaker 2: that's operating table. That's see you next summer. Tough setback
Speaker 2: for a very good tackle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all pro level has been an anchor for the
Speaker 5: league's best or second best. Lie right up there with
Speaker 5: the Eagles. I am interested though, because their fourth round pick,
Speaker 5: Dwan Jones out of Ohio State played more snaps I
Speaker 5: believe than any offensive lineman in the preseason and looked
Speaker 5: pretty good and looks like kind of a find. So
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's not like you're falling off a
Speaker 5: cliff into total nothingness. But losing Conklin, I mean they
Speaker 5: lose one other guy suddenly the offensive line's very different.
Speaker 3: I love looking at that guy. Dewan John He is massive,
Speaker 3: like a planet out there.
Speaker 4: But it's a shame for conclic Conklin's been around long
Speaker 4: enough that he had another season ending uh you know
Speaker 4: injury back in the day. Got healthy enough to where
Speaker 4: he just signed a new contract with the Brown so
Speaker 4: he secured financially.
Speaker 3: But that that's a rough blow for him.
Speaker 2: Who was it was a Wiatt teller. Somebody had the
Speaker 2: pancake of the week. Yeah that was one guards downfield
Speaker 2: and pancake the defender. That's that's that's some man stuff.
Speaker 4: It's a concern because that's what makes the Brown special
Speaker 4: is the guys up front.
Speaker 2: The Eagles, they had a blessed life last year. They
Speaker 2: kind of struggled and battled and got past the Patriots
Speaker 2: just barely. A little bit on that later on Sunday.
Speaker 2: And now they are dealing with some injury issues. Linebacker
Speaker 2: Nakobe Dean out multiple weeks with a foot injury.
Speaker 4: Starting linebacker Gregory I am not overly concerned about this.
Speaker 3: I'm uh a regular listener of the Birds.
Speaker 2: I'm not concerned about any injury.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, I'm concerned about Nakobe Dean personally, but
Speaker 4: his the whole idea of Nikobe.
Speaker 3: Dan's been a little more a little.
Speaker 2: Cold about JK. Dobbins. To be quite honest, I did so.
Speaker 5: Too when about four seconds it was about three minutes ago,
Speaker 5: like it doesn't you know it's fine about Jaca Dobbins,
Speaker 5: Like that guy is like torn up with an Achilles blow.
Speaker 3: I wasn't saying that whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I want you to go for anything I said.
Speaker 3: I said he was the one night that it was
Speaker 3: like maybe the most of each him. Okay, go back
Speaker 3: and listen, allow it to be.
Speaker 2: It might be.
Speaker 4: Okay, I will go back and listen to this podcast
Speaker 4: what we were saying about.
Speaker 3: It's been a while.
Speaker 4: He's just been more of an idea than a player
Speaker 4: that you've actually seen be a difference maker. And uh
Speaker 4: as a regular listener of the Birds with Friends podcasts,
Speaker 4: but Wolf Sack Berban one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: I mean, Christian Ellis, this third year player.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling it's shown a little more as
Speaker 4: a player and he'll step into the starting line. So
Speaker 4: I think they have a really good backup who might
Speaker 4: be even better than a cop.
Speaker 2: Only could be as generous with your opposing podcast plugs
Speaker 2: as you are with actual humans on them.
Speaker 4: It's not an opposing plot team. If it's an Eagle
Speaker 4: specific podcast.
Speaker 2: They're all enemies to me. Better news injury news. Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson he missed the end of the loss to the
Speaker 2: Jaguars with what was knee seen as a or diagnosed
Speaker 2: as a knee injury. It's a knee bruise, according to
Speaker 2: Tom Pellisero uh and according to Pealsero, he will be fine.
Speaker 2: That's good, however, just something interesting. Trevor Lawrence, another high
Speaker 2: profile draft picks seen as face of his franchise and
Speaker 2: the opponent of Anthony Richardson in Week one, said had
Speaker 2: something to say after the game about his conversation with
Speaker 2: Tony Richardson. Nobody calls him Tony, No, I think you
Speaker 2: should think about it being a rookie quarterback. It's it's
Speaker 2: a tough spot.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of learning you have to do, and
Speaker 7: it's just every week learning and getting better. And the
Speaker 7: only thing I told him after the game was a great,
Speaker 7: you know, great game. He made some some unbelievable plays,
Speaker 7: but just try to protect yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, these the.
Speaker 7: Hits add up in this league, and they're a little
Speaker 7: different than in college so I just told him to
Speaker 7: protect himself, and you know, I'm excited to his career unfold.
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna be a great player, and obviously
Speaker 7: we'll see him again later in the season, but that
Speaker 7: was my only message to him, really, just put yourself
Speaker 7: as a long season and I think think he's gonna
Speaker 7: be great player.
Speaker 2: Allow me to read a little bit too much into
Speaker 2: that for it to rise to the point where Trevor
Speaker 2: sought him out and said that to him, Like you
Speaker 2: can imagine Lawrence like watching him from the Sielin just
Speaker 2: taking nasty licks. And you see the same thing with
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, another guy that uses his legs and is
Speaker 2: kind of fearless in terms of his abilities with his
Speaker 2: legs and his arms. That's part of this. And Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 2: as dynamic as he is, I thought was well said
Speaker 2: by Lawrence there that the hits are just different here.
Speaker 2: The guys are bigger and stronger and you gotta be careful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and part of it is on you know, the
Speaker 5: scheme and Shane Stikeen, but it's like that's what makes
Speaker 5: him special. And a whole league is built around protecting
Speaker 5: quarterbacks to the point where like a lot of defenders
Speaker 5: think that there's too much emphasis on that, But then
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson. What we are gonna love about watching him
Speaker 5: is he goes off into wild territories running down the
Speaker 5: field and a couple runs yesterday where it's like, yes,
Speaker 5: he's huge and powerful, but like he hasn't played that
Speaker 5: much football in college at all, really, and it's like
Speaker 5: we don't really have a huge.
Speaker 6: Read on his long term durability.
Speaker 5: It's like you've got these iron men quarterbacks that no
Speaker 5: matter what, they play every week, and then if you're
Speaker 5: gonna go do this with your body, it's like a
Speaker 5: bit of a there's a bit of a variable factor there.
Speaker 4: Now, I want to circle back to what Dan said
Speaker 4: about Tony Richardson as a Jets fan. Can you think
Speaker 4: of a reason why that wouldn't be a great idea?
Speaker 4: You know, how about the legendary fullback Tony Richardson's very
Speaker 4: good sixteen years in the NFL, mostly for the Chiefs,
Speaker 4: but he did have a few with the Jets there,
Speaker 4: So that guy he already kind of took Tony Richardson.
Speaker 3: And then I also wanted to.
Speaker 2: So you know, you worry about erasing that the fullback.
Speaker 2: I understand that because it's already tough for a.
Speaker 5: Fullback to have a niche and the league had two
Speaker 5: Cam Newton's for a while, right, And what do you
Speaker 5: know about the second one?
Speaker 6: Well, no, he was overshadowed. It's no doubt.
Speaker 4: I just mean that that there's already been a football
Speaker 4: Tony Richards. I also am curious, and I know we
Speaker 4: want this show to be, you know, fast moving, and
Speaker 4: I'm turning into a hank attack.
Speaker 3: You want to share your exciting hot.
Speaker 4: Take about the facial structure of Trevor Lawrence with the audience.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think if you want to bring his face
Speaker 2: up again, I think Trevor is, in many ways esthetically
Speaker 2: a beautiful man, hyper masculine, symmetrical, symmetrical is great jawline, cheekbones,
Speaker 2: very strong nose, character nose. But there's there's almost like
Speaker 2: a strange lack of humanity to his face, like he's
Speaker 2: the creation and ai creation of what a young franchise
Speaker 2: quarterback looks like. And maybe there's a little something jarring
Speaker 2: with this long flowing hair, the blonde, dirty blonde mane.
Speaker 2: In the contrast, it's almost like he's like a he
Speaker 2: man figure and I guess I just struggle, maybe because
Speaker 2: to see something that kind of functionally perfect, the way
Speaker 2: he's been designed as a human is jarring to me,
Speaker 2: a mere mortal.
Speaker 5: I think it's like in those, you know, certain fantasy
Speaker 5: type stories where like a statue comes to life that's
Speaker 5: he looks like he's perfectly carved, and there's no argument
Speaker 5: against his higher quality.
Speaker 6: Looks like is what you'd probably design in many ways beauty.
Speaker 6: But he looks designed kind of But also I'm trying
Speaker 6: to compliment him.
Speaker 2: And who looked in the was Adonnas? Who looked in
Speaker 2: the lake and froze the old myth, the old Greek myth?
Speaker 2: Anybody the egotistical one. I believe there's an it Adonnas. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's work on that one. Eric Le's get a little
Speaker 2: help on that. But anyway, shout out to Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: for giving some advice to the kid. And hopefully we
Speaker 2: get seventeen games of Anthony Richardson and he finishes them
Speaker 2: all one more. J. C. Horn. Gregie Panthers missed a
Speaker 2: lot of last year with a foot injury. He's had
Speaker 2: a wrist issue and now he's got a hamstring issue
Speaker 2: that they're still evaluating. Obviously extremely frustrating for this kid
Speaker 2: who can't seem to get it going.
Speaker 4: And paper, he's one of their best players and their
Speaker 4: defense is going to have to lead them and he
Speaker 4: just cannot stay on the field. It's very frustrating and
Speaker 4: after watching the Panthers like, you're gonna want reasons to
Speaker 4: watch the Panthers early this season, and J. C.
Speaker 3: Horn has got to be one of them.
Speaker 2: Let's let's ask the as we transition out of the
Speaker 2: injury seg and let's ask the listeners we need some
Speaker 2: type of sting for this segment or this section which
Speaker 2: is flotsam and jetsam and flotsam and jetsam or is
Speaker 2: it flotsam and jetsam and jetsam and flotsam.
Speaker 6: I think it's flotsam and jetsam, all right.
Speaker 3: And this sounds better that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So flotsam and jetsam and jetsam and flotsam. And
Speaker 2: if somebody can come up with some type of barbershop
Speaker 2: a cappella sting and send it into what's an email
Speaker 2: that we could send it into the atnpodcast at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com, correct, we would be really appreciative and we'll
Speaker 2: send you something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do have some breaking news if we could
Speaker 6: do go real quick.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, he's.
Speaker 2: Got he's only a one thumb technically.
Speaker 6: No, no, absolutely, it was narcissus.
Speaker 5: Narcissis the water fell in love with his own reflects.
Speaker 6: Narcissism died, Yeah, died at the spring. So to the narcissism.
Speaker 5: If your narcissistic out there sort of floating around society,
Speaker 5: look out a.
Speaker 3: Little on the nose there, Greek mythologist.
Speaker 2: Outures root word. But yeah, yeah, so and Adonnas was
Speaker 2: just likes, was more like just adas physically like Adonas
Speaker 2: was the mortal lover of the goddess Aphrodite.
Speaker 3: Wow, kind of a Trevor Lawrence of his time.
Speaker 2: Good get Wait, so if you are getting aphrodite as
Speaker 2: a mortal you're doing there's some things you got working
Speaker 2: in here. Absolutely, there's no question put it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it can be assumed. You, like Trevor Lawrence, you've probably
Speaker 2: been set up very well in your life, all right.
Speaker 2: Flats of the Jetsam Jetsam, Flatsam the Giants Cowboys ga again.
Speaker 2: One of the greatest atrocities ever seen in primetime. Forty
Speaker 2: to nothing, and we were watching from the theater here
Speaker 2: at NFL Network headquarters as Daniel Jones was getting smoked
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter and I and h who were
Speaker 2: talking about Mooch, was there. Yeah, Chris Rose like, what's
Speaker 2: he doing out there? And I was like, I was
Speaker 2: wondering aloud if it was one of those situations where
Speaker 2: the head coach is doing the head coach thing where
Speaker 2: he was like, I wanted to have something positive to
Speaker 2: take out of this game and roll into next week.
Speaker 2: And then Brian Dable, facing a lot of criticism after
Speaker 2: the game, had this to say to the media, did
Speaker 2: you ever think.
Speaker 8: Of taking Daniel out because he took a pretty big
Speaker 8: beating game.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Now, now I was gonna let him see it through there,
Speaker 9: just until that last series, try to something positive going down.
Speaker 9: We didn't have much going Uh. Just wanted to try
Speaker 9: to get a you know, a positive drive and try
Speaker 9: to punch the ball into the end zone.
Speaker 2: But that didn't happen. Yeah, I saw your tweet like that, Greg,
Speaker 2: they put so much care, why don't you say it?
Speaker 4: Well, they won't play him in the preseason, you like,
Speaker 4: can't get hurt in the preseason. Can't play a snap
Speaker 4: in the preseason, and then they just got him out
Speaker 4: there in these blowouts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. The difference a year makes mark because
Speaker 2: last year Brian Dable could do no wrong and you
Speaker 2: just see how this season now starts and he's under
Speaker 2: the spotlight for having the team in the eyes of
Speaker 2: people on the outside, not prepared, embarrassed, and then not
Speaker 2: doing right by his quarterback and not protecting him. It
Speaker 2: was a mistake, but that's a very coach aspect outlook
Speaker 2: to have on things. And while we're here, and while
Speaker 2: we're talking about tweets, the twitter verse was just filled
Speaker 2: with various absurd nuggets tied to the lopside of nature
Speaker 2: of that game. Let's bring up a few of those. First,
Speaker 2: from the athletic no team has ever lost forty nothing
Speaker 2: or worse, lost the sack battle seven zero or worse,
Speaker 2: lost the turnover battle three zero or worse, had a
Speaker 2: block field goal return for a TD, threw a pick
Speaker 2: six in the same season, the Giants did it all
Speaker 2: in one game. How about Bill Barnwell, that's absurd.
Speaker 4: Well, that fortieth did nothing is where it really knocks
Speaker 4: a lot of teams out.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of teams show last.
Speaker 2: Year, Bill Barnwell, our buddy Giants on Sunday Night against Cowboys,
Speaker 2: negative twenty three point eight offensive EPA, the Broncos game
Speaker 2: from the COVID year when Kendall Hinton, remember that played
Speaker 2: quarterback against the Saints. He was like a gunner or something.
Speaker 2: Negative twenty three point seven offensive EPA. And one more
Speaker 2: from Katie Sharp, who's awesome on baseball analytics, but I
Speaker 2: guess she's a Giants fan as well. Giants forty ninhing
Speaker 2: loss on Sunday is their worst shutout loss at home
Speaker 2: in franchise history. Has there ever been a bigger Bury
Speaker 2: the ball game? I do not think so.
Speaker 5: I can think of a year when the Browns beat
Speaker 5: the Steelers in Week one nineteen eighty nine, fifty one
Speaker 5: to nothing, and that Steelers team went on to make
Speaker 5: the playoffs as one of the more interesting teams I've
Speaker 5: ever watched, Like they started off terribly and grew. And
Speaker 5: if you're the coach of the Year, Brian Daball, like
Speaker 5: cool you last year things were kind of rolling and
Speaker 5: it was a new vibe and like Daniel Jones looked good,
Speaker 5: but it's like you've been handed like a as absolute
Speaker 5: nightmare first act. How do you get yourself out of here?
Speaker 5: I would say this one thing reason I think he
Speaker 5: is a good coach. All those negative things, you got.
Speaker 6: Him out of the way in one game. It's a
Speaker 6: good way to look at Its not dotting it week
Speaker 6: after week. Oh we either lost the sack record seven
Speaker 6: to nothing in week two. It's like you got him
Speaker 6: out of the way.
Speaker 4: I'd like to think though, for over forty million dollars
Speaker 4: at quarterback, a one hundred and four yard two interception,
Speaker 4: seven tech game is just not on the table, Like
Speaker 4: there's a certain level of quarterback where that game just
Speaker 4: wouldn't happen on any level.
Speaker 2: Now, you're just rolling in it. You're a pig rolling
Speaker 2: in poop now because she didn't say that Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: yesterday and he's the highest paid player and they has
Speaker 2: three of the sport.
Speaker 3: I'm just a pig and poop.
Speaker 4: I'm more like, yeah, we're like my little tourtois now.
Speaker 2: Yes, Giants fans are saying, oh my god, how about
Speaker 2: Gino Smith, your little hero. He struggled with the rest
Speaker 2: of the Seahawks against the Rams. Do you want to
Speaker 2: tee this one up.
Speaker 4: Well, let's everyone's already probably heard this. Everyone's had their
Speaker 4: little fun of the miked up Gino Smith, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: reacting when Aaron Donald's coming at him.
Speaker 3: Pressure coming from Aaron Donald.
Speaker 4: Okay, And I'm glad everyone had their fun there. But
Speaker 4: I'm also glad we we've got our own podcast here
Speaker 4: because everyone thinks it's all about Aaron Donald and no
Speaker 4: I did check. No one asked him about that. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: no one asked them about this. Hopefully someone will next name.
Speaker 4: I'm almost positive he says, Oh my god, because he
Speaker 4: almost threw a pick six there, and as he threw it,
Speaker 4: one of the RAMS defenders, which he had no idea
Speaker 4: was was hiding in wait, flashes out in front of
Speaker 4: him and could have easily picked that off. And I think,
Speaker 4: actually that's what he's saying, Oh my god, at not
Speaker 4: at that Aaron Donald is coming out.
Speaker 3: It's just a fact.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter why said almost. I'm pretty certain, no
Speaker 2: matter what the reason was, he defecated in his pants.
Speaker 6: It seem the way. But I mean, great parabolic mic work.
Speaker 5: By the way, we don't often hear what these guys
Speaker 5: are saying out of the field, and like it was
Speaker 5: nothing else human.
Speaker 6: It made me like Gino a little bit more.
Speaker 5: It's like whether or not you almost thought you threw
Speaker 5: a pick six, you got like one of the largest
Speaker 5: humans on the planet coming at you at the speed
Speaker 5: of a car.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's no, my god moment.
Speaker 2: Also, like a man of faith that shows him to be.
Speaker 3: Well he is.
Speaker 4: That's that's probably someone who follows him on Twitter.
Speaker 6: We know Greg and he follows back very We have
Speaker 6: been well.
Speaker 2: Versed in this. The Oh my god, the Raiders. How
Speaker 2: about them Raiders? They had a nice start to their season.
Speaker 6: Another team I nailed one win.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you'll you'll get there that
Speaker 2: game all right, Well it wasn't a game where I
Speaker 2: watched the Raiders and I thought magic was coming the season.
Speaker 2: But they got the win. And guess who won over
Speaker 2: their locker room in a big way. It was Jimmy Garoppo.
Speaker 2: There's Josh Jacobs, man, he's a dog. Any quarterback that's
Speaker 2: willing to take a hit in a big moment to
Speaker 2: secure a win got my respect. I think is he
Speaker 2: referring to that scramble that clinched the game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he took some good shots when he
Speaker 4: was staying in the pocket too.
Speaker 2: Here's Josh McDaniel on his new quarterback.
Speaker 10: He's a he's a good leader. He's won a lot
Speaker 10: of games in this league, you know, and you know that.
Speaker 10: I think I think the guys in the locker room
Speaker 10: know who they have and and what this guy can do,
Speaker 10: how competitive he is. He's a very good leader. He's
Speaker 10: a great communicator, you know, just does what it takes
Speaker 10: to win, you know, doesn't give it. He didn't care
Speaker 10: about his statistics or anything like that. It's just whatever
Speaker 10: I got to do at my position to try to
Speaker 10: help the team win, I'm going to try to do it.
Speaker 10: So again, super happy that he's a raider.
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels needed that as well. That was a nice
Speaker 2: win for Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 4: I almost feel like Garoppolo is like his emotional support player,
Speaker 4: Like how can how can I be unlikable if I've
Speaker 4: got my buddy Jimmy g next to me.
Speaker 2: That's what's going to make the whole thing more Like
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel still looking to find a career success out
Speaker 2: of the shadow of Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy won many Super Bowls. Let's come down. Yeah,
Speaker 4: on the Patriots, but the career success well hold on
Speaker 4: outside the shadow of Bill.
Speaker 5: Denver was about as big of a You copied Bill
Speaker 5: Belichick's cheating scandal and that I mean, that's how unriginal
Speaker 5: that was. Then he was the coordinator of the Rams
Speaker 5: one year and they were like the thirty first ranked offense.
Speaker 4: I was responding to the to the first the first part,
Speaker 4: you know, I thought, so.
Speaker 2: Let's head to Pat's corner and things are changing. Things
Speaker 2: feel different around the Patriots now, just a new world order.
Speaker 2: And Bill Belichick this jumped out to me. Bill did
Speaker 2: his postgame mortem breakdown, was asked about a decision. What
Speaker 2: was the decision that he made. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 3: They went for it on fourth and seventeen.
Speaker 2: They went for it on fourth, and we talked about
Speaker 2: that when it was happening from the newsroom. It was
Speaker 2: four than twelve, and they get backed up by a
Speaker 2: penalty to fourth and seventeen. This is not the most
Speaker 2: high octane offense, and sure enough he throws a about
Speaker 2: a thirteen yard strike to Hunter Henry. Henry drops it anyway,
Speaker 2: but he was going to be smothered short of the
Speaker 2: sticks by a couple of yards easily either way. Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick actually admitted he shouldn't have done it on the radio,
Speaker 2: on live airwaves. I don't remember this happening too often. Greg,
Speaker 2: you could now you reckon me if I'm wrong. Here
Speaker 2: we go, let's listen in Toney.
Speaker 11: Look, there wasn't a lot of field position to be gained,
Speaker 11: so we could have punted. You know, probably should have
Speaker 11: punted on fourth and seventeen, but we're on their side
Speaker 11: of the fifties too long per field goal. Fourth and
Speaker 11: seventeens a lot tougher than fourth and twelve.
Speaker 2: Is the great Belichick starting to doubt himself.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's more that he's turning over some new lease.
Speaker 4: I noticed how he was very enthusiastic and positive, trying
Speaker 4: to like cheer up mac Jones after they scored their
Speaker 4: second straight touchdown, to the point where like mac Jones
Speaker 4: looked a little grumpy coming off the field, like he
Speaker 4: didn't celebrate it, and Belichick was like, how come you're
Speaker 4: not celebrating, bro, And mac Jones just went by, and
Speaker 4: then Belichick actually followed him to the bench, and it's
Speaker 4: like giving high fives and smiling. That to me was
Speaker 4: a different sort of Belichick moment.
Speaker 6: I don't know what. I don't recall more than zero
Speaker 6: of those.
Speaker 3: But ray, if I was in the first quarter, the
Speaker 3: second quarter of the game.
Speaker 6: Maybe Belichick knows something we don't.
Speaker 3: Maybe he likes his team daddy watch out.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've been told by Twitter user that will
Speaker 4: not be named here stop whispering as a sort of
Speaker 4: an affect on the show. They can't hear it, So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 2: Or you could just speak up when you will.
Speaker 4: That's I was like, do I ever? I was like,
Speaker 4: do I ever do that? And then it just happened,
Speaker 4: So I guess that happens.
Speaker 2: And while we're on Pat's corner, our old friend, the
Speaker 2: sentient power aid Bottle Solac, we heard yesterday him getting
Speaker 2: amped up after your boy Boute nearly got a second
Speaker 2: foot down. What we didn't hear was Scott Zolac of
Speaker 2: w ee I getting a little fired up, a little
Speaker 2: pot kettle black about the head coach of the Eagles,
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni. Let's listen in. I don't know if like
Speaker 2: Philly has their complete cheer lakes.
Speaker 9: WoT figured out, but like if they got an opening,
Speaker 9: Sirianni can step in.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the tom wave and.
Speaker 1: He's for head coach.
Speaker 10: The receiver did not get the second foot in bounds,
Speaker 10: the pass is incomplete, it's a turnover on downs, it's
Speaker 10: first down for Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: It was a little judgy. It is like, you know,
Speaker 2: for a head coach, it's like, here's the ultimate cheerleader
Speaker 2: in the history of broadcasting.
Speaker 6: Come on, he knows whose audience.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the month the day after show.
Speaker 4: Only the most trenchant news and analysis from around the
Speaker 4: league are weekly.
Speaker 3: Zolac.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you're gonna hear of him
Speaker 2: this year, quite honest, So take advantage of all week.
Speaker 3: We hear from him more when they lose.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Well, you know what, there was
Speaker 2: a long time Gregi on this podcast where we were
Speaker 2: hearing from him a lot of wins.
Speaker 3: That's true. I'm owed about a decade of misery.
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith, speaking of misery, fantasy owners, they take what
Speaker 2: the Falcons do on draft Day and they say to themselves, well,
Speaker 2: obviously they're going to build their offense around these top
Speaker 2: ten picks they keep using, and then the head coach
Speaker 2: goes in different directions in terms of his scheming, and
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith already it's on his radar that this is
Speaker 2: a talking point around the Falcons that somebody like Drake
Speaker 2: London has zero catches, that Kyle Pitts cannot get the
Speaker 2: ball in this offense, even Bejean Robinson not leading his
Speaker 2: team and carries yesterday. All this stuff is baffling to
Speaker 2: some people. But when a reporter asked Arthur Smith, how
Speaker 2: is it the Desmond Ritter, the quarterback have more catches
Speaker 2: than Drake London, the top ten pick. Arthur Smith and
Speaker 2: his mustache, he wasn't about it.
Speaker 7: If I were to tell you that Desmy would have
Speaker 7: more receptions than Drake and you'd win, would you believe me?
Speaker 2: A and B?
Speaker 8: Would you figure I'm gonna not to be rude. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna cut you off. Let the fantasy guys. We gotta
Speaker 8: clean some things up.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 8: We can all be better at our spacing and the
Speaker 8: targets is the most misunderstood thing in the National Football League.
Speaker 8: There's progressions, they're spacing if somebody's underneath is not right.
Speaker 8: That's the stuff where I'm a little irritated as a
Speaker 8: coach that we had to fix at halftime, and that's
Speaker 8: on me, it's on everybody, and we don't care. Drake
Speaker 8: Lendon doesn't care. All we care about is one and all.
Speaker 2: Drake London cares. By the way.
Speaker 5: Okay, well he might care, but I think that's tell
Speaker 5: he's completely in the right.
Speaker 6: Like I mean, that's fine. I'm glad that.
Speaker 2: Fantasy means is completely in the right. Oh he is.
Speaker 6: He supposed to cater to fantasy.
Speaker 2: Forget about fantasy. But the more of the ideas. You
Speaker 2: have these wildly talented skill players, at what point are
Speaker 2: you going to find a way to get them actively involved.
Speaker 2: It's very early in the season. I'm very excited to
Speaker 2: see it'll happen. It should Drake len and the two
Speaker 2: great receivers, you'll see it. Look every week at the
Speaker 2: targets like he could talk about progressions and he knows
Speaker 2: way more about football than I do. But they find
Speaker 2: ways to get the ball to funnel targets to your
Speaker 2: top guys. And it's interesting to me that that just
Speaker 2: hasn't happened with these high profile pass catchers that they have.
Speaker 5: Like if you if you like, contrasted to what Mike
Speaker 5: McDaniel has done in like a regular season plus one
Speaker 5: game with his star wide outs.
Speaker 6: I understand.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm saying he's right about the fantasy part, like
Speaker 5: that's like given, but.
Speaker 2: No one's arguing about that, like that was his That
Speaker 2: was nice little.
Speaker 5: All right, But it's like that that was if he
Speaker 5: hadn't if he hadn't answered the fantasy question, we wouldn't
Speaker 5: have even been already talked.
Speaker 4: We don't even know what part B was Zach. You know,
Speaker 4: probably I don't know who Zach is.
Speaker 2: Man. They'll go with AM B and Jack.
Speaker 4: I was trying to think, who's who's the Zach that
Speaker 4: covers the Falcons. Can't think of one, can't find one.
Speaker 4: I think he made a mistake going with the AA
Speaker 4: and the B. At that point, he was he was
Speaker 4: spinning once Arthur Smith cut him off. He's trying to
Speaker 4: get be in. We'll never know what B is. But
Speaker 4: the thing where Smith lost me a little bit though,
Speaker 4: is Drake London cares. He cares a lot his future
Speaker 4: money and livelihood. He wants to over the long haul. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that actually could be a little bit of an issue
Speaker 4: we saw in Baltimore in the Greg Roman era that
Speaker 4: guys like Kyle Pits, Drake London and stuff. You do
Speaker 4: want to make sure that they're involved in getting some
Speaker 4: numbers because they're human beings.
Speaker 2: They want to makes the offense better. But a big
Speaker 2: part of this is do they have a quarterback to
Speaker 2: facilitate such a thing as well? And that's the beautiful
Speaker 2: thing about football. Season will unfurl and we will learn more,
Speaker 2: more and more and more more coming.
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