1
00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,080
Speaker 1: We just have so many players, and it's fun to

2
00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,160
Speaker 1: watch how you do his thing and pretty shut some

3
00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,599
Speaker 1: haters up. So it's nice to be on a really

4
00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,080
Speaker 1: good team.

5
00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,320
Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast Studio, it's around the NFL

6
00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,120
Speaker 2: the Monday, the Monday Show for the first time ever,

7
00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,880
Speaker 2: the day after the Big Day. Dan Hans is here,

8
00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,159
Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler and when you want to launch

9
00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,040
Speaker 2: a new property and you need the charisma that will

10
00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,840
Speaker 2: just send you through the roof and beyond you book

11
00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,080
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa soundbites.

12
00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,239
Speaker 3: It's that simple that made me want to run through

13
00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,640
Speaker 3: a wall.

14
00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,480
Speaker 4: As Nick Bosa goes at least that was like him

15
00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,240
Speaker 4: talking some trash.

16
00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,000
Speaker 3: I like that. He's wearing a backpack too, and.

17
00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,800
Speaker 2: He was ready to go that Nick Bosa And Yeah,

18
00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,360
Speaker 2: I think that's good. We're gonna this is the show.

19
00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,840
Speaker 2: You know, you have the Sunday flagship that gave you

20
00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,319
Speaker 2: a detailed rundown and everything that happened on Sunday Monday Show.

21
00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,000
Speaker 2: This show's one of three programs that we have come

22
00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,200
Speaker 2: in your way, one of them for NFL plus the

23
00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,520
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football Recap coming later tonight. This show is

24
00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,720
Speaker 2: just getting you caught up to date on everything that's

25
00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,319
Speaker 2: happened after the games went down, after the games, after

26
00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,000
Speaker 2: the pressers overnight, and then anything that's come across the

27
00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,119
Speaker 2: wires we tape in early afternoon on the West coast,

28
00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,560
Speaker 2: And that was, of course, the star defender of the Niners,

29
00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,480
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa. After the forty nine Ers waxed Mark Cecilers

30
00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,880
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers in the field formerly known as Hines. So

31
00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,760
Speaker 2: not many teams will enter Week two flying as high

32
00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,800
Speaker 2: as the forty nine Ers.

33
00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,760
Speaker 5: I will say this though, because I love what he said,

34
00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,399
Speaker 5: and I like that he just owns the fact that

35
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,720
Speaker 5: he's on a well coached, great team, and that's much

36
00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,760
Speaker 5: more enjoyable than other scenarios. But how many haters like

37
00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,600
Speaker 5: who is hating on brock Pertty? I think there was

38
00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280
Speaker 5: a lot of wait and see on brock party.

39
00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,320
Speaker 2: I see what he's saying. He was saying this doubt

40
00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,240
Speaker 2: there's a little bit like this idea, who the seventh

41
00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,360
Speaker 2: round pick, small sample size blows out his elbow. Kind

42
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a Cinderella story right now,

43
00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,799
Speaker 2: reality might hit this year, and he looked exactly the same, right.

44
00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,120
Speaker 5: I just see doubters, haters like I mean it's a number.

45
00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,720
Speaker 5: He's a likable care he's a bosa. Of course, like

46
00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,040
Speaker 5: half his sentences have it hate.

47
00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,400
Speaker 2: All right, that's you're a hater. I'm a hater. No,

48
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,440
Speaker 2: that guy's a hater.

49
00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,240
Speaker 6: All the explanation needed were good.

50
00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,720
Speaker 2: It's okay, but it's not robust, okay anything.

51
00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760
Speaker 3: Greg No, I think that wou so else said. I

52
00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,359
Speaker 3: can't tap it.

53
00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,480
Speaker 2: So all right, we're going to go through everything. Let's

54
00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,320
Speaker 2: start with injuries. It's injury corner. It's a little of

55
00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,880
Speaker 2: a bummer way to start, but it's a reality coming

56
00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,600
Speaker 2: out of Sundays.

57
00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,000
Speaker 6: Mondays are what's that?

58
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,440
Speaker 5: That's what you're the pieces we're picking up on Monday

59
00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,680
Speaker 5: when I don't know why we've waited a decade to

60
00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,120
Speaker 5: start doing Monday shows. But then you get to Tuesday,

61
00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,919
Speaker 5: it's like eight hundred and sixty news items because it's

62
00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,000
Speaker 5: all follow up on injuries and we're doing it now.

63
00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,520
Speaker 2: Well, we we've corrected a loophole in the system here

64
00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,120
Speaker 2: in year eleven. Let's start with the Baltimore.

65
00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,239
Speaker 7: RAVEI well, that's a great point.

66
00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,320
Speaker 2: Mark wo not looking good for their star safety Marcus Williams,

67
00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,359
Speaker 2: who is in the second year of a five year,

68
00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,440
Speaker 2: seventy million dollar contract. They hit the field on Sunday

69
00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,040
Speaker 2: thinking he's going to be a key contributor all season,

70
00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840
Speaker 2: and now he has a pectoral injury. He might have

71
00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,840
Speaker 2: to undergo surgery on the on the issue, and if

72
00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,320
Speaker 2: he does, John Harboss said, Williams is consulting a doctor

73
00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,640
Speaker 2: to weigh his options. If he does, it's it could

74
00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,640
Speaker 2: be a season under but not certainly. But either way,

75
00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,280
Speaker 2: he's on the shelf.

76
00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,440
Speaker 4: Gregor, he made such a difference last year when he

77
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,480
Speaker 4: was on the field, and this team just seems cursed

78
00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,200
Speaker 4: by injuries. They're already a little thin in the secondary,

79
00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,000
Speaker 4: but the whole idea of Okay, we're gonna get Marlon

80
00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,839
Speaker 4: Humphrey back and then our cornerback position is not that thin.

81
00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 4: And especially it doesn't matter because we have such great

82
00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,920
Speaker 4: safety play quarterbacks really by Marcus Williams more than anyone.

83
00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,480
Speaker 3: And they were a different team last year when he

84
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,200
Speaker 3: wasn't on the field.

85
00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you still have Kyle Hamilton, but Geno

86
00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920
Speaker 5: Stone now steps in at the other safety spot.

87
00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,280
Speaker 6: I don't know the Ravens.

88
00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,160
Speaker 5: I feel like they probably could have been three or

89
00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,800
Speaker 5: four wins better in playoff trips. If you take away

90
00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,600
Speaker 5: the injuries the last couple of seasons, I mean, it's

91
00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,440
Speaker 5: just been, like to your point, Greg, like one of

92
00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,880
Speaker 5: the most banged up AFC teams in a rough and

93
00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,600
Speaker 5: tumble division.

94
00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,480
Speaker 2: Left tackle Ronnie Stanley, who's dealt with his own injury

95
00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,840
Speaker 2: issues in recent years. He suffered as sprain knee. He's

96
00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,440
Speaker 2: weak to week, as is center Tyler Linderbaum, who suffered

97
00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,880
Speaker 2: an ankle in also labeled week to week. So but also,

98
00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,560
Speaker 2: you know what you gave Lamar all that money. M's

99
00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,680
Speaker 2: he's the star of the team.

100
00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:35,960
Speaker 3: See what you're doing well.

101
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying because sometimes it feels like you could

102
00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960
Speaker 2: sense the excuses being set up if the Ravens don't

103
00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,520
Speaker 2: play well. Take quarterback, take your team through a stormy,

104
00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,520
Speaker 2: choppy waters until you can get hopefully healthy. We shall see.

105
00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,080
Speaker 2: They didn't do a lot on offense in Week one,

106
00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 2: but enough to win. Right.

107
00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,160
Speaker 4: They get the Bengals this week, which is like an

108
00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,840
Speaker 4: immediately it's immedia big matchup. It's an immediate big game here,

109
00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,479
Speaker 4: and you don't get JK doamons back. I'm not that

110
00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,560
Speaker 4: worried about missing JK Dumbs, although he was the one

111
00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,880
Speaker 4: chance they had to be special there. I'd be very

112
00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,120
Speaker 4: worried about Marcus Williams being out all season and missing

113
00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,560
Speaker 4: too maybe the best two parts of your offensive line.

114
00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,320
Speaker 2: The reason why the Bengals are dangerous is because they

115
00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,760
Speaker 2: got waxed by the Browns on Sunday. And the Browns

116
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,240
Speaker 2: feel mighty good about themselves, but they're not feeling good

117
00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 2: about Jack Conklin, the right tackle. He's out for the season.

118
00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,839
Speaker 2: A bad one. Mark at acl N MCL tear instantly,

119
00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,440
Speaker 2: that's operating table. That's see you next summer. Tough setback

120
00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,480
Speaker 2: for a very good tackle.

121
00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, all pro level has been an anchor for the

122
00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,120
Speaker 5: league's best or second best. Lie right up there with

123
00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,960
Speaker 5: the Eagles. I am interested though, because their fourth round pick,

124
00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,680
Speaker 5: Dwan Jones out of Ohio State played more snaps I

125
00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,440
Speaker 5: believe than any offensive lineman in the preseason and looked

126
00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,720
Speaker 5: pretty good and looks like kind of a find. So

127
00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,800
Speaker 5: it's you know, it's not like you're falling off a

128
00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,400
Speaker 5: cliff into total nothingness. But losing Conklin, I mean they

129
00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,880
Speaker 5: lose one other guy suddenly the offensive line's very different.

130
00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,800
Speaker 3: I love looking at that guy. Dewan John He is massive,

131
00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,360
Speaker 3: like a planet out there.

132
00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,760
Speaker 4: But it's a shame for conclic Conklin's been around long

133
00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,320
Speaker 4: enough that he had another season ending uh you know

134
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,400
Speaker 4: injury back in the day. Got healthy enough to where

135
00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,320
Speaker 4: he just signed a new contract with the Brown so

136
00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,640
Speaker 4: he secured financially.

137
00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,400
Speaker 3: But that that's a rough blow for him.

138
00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,400
Speaker 2: Who was it was a Wiatt teller. Somebody had the

139
00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,800
Speaker 2: pancake of the week. Yeah that was one guards downfield

140
00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,440
Speaker 2: and pancake the defender. That's that's that's some man stuff.

141
00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 4: It's a concern because that's what makes the Brown special

142
00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,919
Speaker 4: is the guys up front.

143
00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,280
Speaker 2: The Eagles, they had a blessed life last year. They

144
00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,680
Speaker 2: kind of struggled and battled and got past the Patriots

145
00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 2: just barely. A little bit on that later on Sunday.

146
00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,680
Speaker 2: And now they are dealing with some injury issues. Linebacker

147
00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,919
Speaker 2: Nakobe Dean out multiple weeks with a foot injury.

148
00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,920
Speaker 4: Starting linebacker Gregory I am not overly concerned about this.

149
00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,839
Speaker 3: I'm uh a regular listener of the Birds.

150
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm not concerned about any injury.

151
00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,039
Speaker 4: I mean, no, I'm concerned about Nakobe Dean personally, but

152
00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,400
Speaker 4: his the whole idea of Nikobe.

153
00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,880
Speaker 3: Dan's been a little more a little.

154
00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,000
Speaker 2: Cold about JK. Dobbins. To be quite honest, I did so.

155
00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,920
Speaker 5: Too when about four seconds it was about three minutes ago,

156
00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,880
Speaker 5: like it doesn't you know it's fine about Jaca Dobbins,

157
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,600
Speaker 5: Like that guy is like torn up with an Achilles blow.

158
00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't saying that whatsoever.

159
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,000
Speaker 2: I want you to go for anything I said.

160
00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,040
Speaker 3: I said he was the one night that it was

161
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,920
Speaker 3: like maybe the most of each him. Okay, go back

162
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,280
Speaker 3: and listen, allow it to be.

163
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,000
Speaker 2: It might be.

164
00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I will go back and listen to this podcast

165
00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,680
Speaker 4: what we were saying about.

166
00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,360
Speaker 3: It's been a while.

167
00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,480
Speaker 4: He's just been more of an idea than a player

168
00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800
Speaker 4: that you've actually seen be a difference maker. And uh

169
00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,000
Speaker 4: as a regular listener of the Birds with Friends podcasts,

170
00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,720
Speaker 4: but Wolf Sack Berban one of my favorites.

171
00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Christian Ellis, this third year player.

172
00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,200
Speaker 4: I have a feeling it's shown a little more as

173
00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,880
Speaker 4: a player and he'll step into the starting line. So

174
00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,560
Speaker 4: I think they have a really good backup who might

175
00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,640
Speaker 4: be even better than a cop.

176
00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,880
Speaker 2: Only could be as generous with your opposing podcast plugs

177
00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,680
Speaker 2: as you are with actual humans on them.

178
00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,400
Speaker 4: It's not an opposing plot team. If it's an Eagle

179
00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,280
Speaker 4: specific podcast.

180
00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,680
Speaker 2: They're all enemies to me. Better news injury news. Anthony

181
00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,200
Speaker 2: Richardson he missed the end of the loss to the

182
00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Jaguars with what was knee seen as a or diagnosed

183
00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,120
Speaker 2: as a knee injury. It's a knee bruise, according to

184
00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:21,520
Speaker 2: Tom Pellisero uh and according to Pealsero, he will be fine.

185
00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,680
Speaker 2: That's good, however, just something interesting. Trevor Lawrence, another high

186
00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,720
Speaker 2: profile draft picks seen as face of his franchise and

187
00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,240
Speaker 2: the opponent of Anthony Richardson in Week one, said had

188
00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,560
Speaker 2: something to say after the game about his conversation with

189
00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,240
Speaker 2: Tony Richardson. Nobody calls him Tony, No, I think you

190
00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,520
Speaker 2: should think about it being a rookie quarterback. It's it's

191
00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,080
Speaker 2: a tough spot.

192
00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,840
Speaker 7: There's a lot of learning you have to do, and

193
00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,439
Speaker 7: it's just every week learning and getting better. And the

194
00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,960
Speaker 7: only thing I told him after the game was a great,

195
00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,240
Speaker 7: you know, great game. He made some some unbelievable plays,

196
00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,000
Speaker 7: but just try to protect yourself.

197
00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,000
Speaker 3: You know, these the.

198
00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,800
Speaker 7: Hits add up in this league, and they're a little

199
00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,240
Speaker 7: different than in college so I just told him to

200
00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,000
Speaker 7: protect himself, and you know, I'm excited to his career unfold.

201
00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,560
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna be a great player, and obviously

202
00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840
Speaker 7: we'll see him again later in the season, but that

203
00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,040
Speaker 7: was my only message to him, really, just put yourself

204
00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,960
Speaker 7: as a long season and I think think he's gonna

205
00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,480
Speaker 7: be great player.

206
00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,360
Speaker 2: Allow me to read a little bit too much into

207
00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,360
Speaker 2: that for it to rise to the point where Trevor

208
00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,280
Speaker 2: sought him out and said that to him, Like you

209
00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,520
Speaker 2: can imagine Lawrence like watching him from the Sielin just

210
00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,360
Speaker 2: taking nasty licks. And you see the same thing with

211
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,439
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, another guy that uses his legs and is

212
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,280
Speaker 2: kind of fearless in terms of his abilities with his

213
00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,480
Speaker 2: legs and his arms. That's part of this. And Anthony Richardson,

214
00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,680
Speaker 2: as dynamic as he is, I thought was well said

215
00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120
Speaker 2: by Lawrence there that the hits are just different here.

216
00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,160
Speaker 2: The guys are bigger and stronger and you gotta be careful.

217
00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and part of it is on you know, the

218
00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,120
Speaker 5: scheme and Shane Stikeen, but it's like that's what makes

219
00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160
Speaker 5: him special. And a whole league is built around protecting

220
00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,120
Speaker 5: quarterbacks to the point where like a lot of defenders

221
00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,000
Speaker 5: think that there's too much emphasis on that, But then

222
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,360
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson. What we are gonna love about watching him

223
00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,160
Speaker 5: is he goes off into wild territories running down the

224
00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,440
Speaker 5: field and a couple runs yesterday where it's like, yes,

225
00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,840
Speaker 5: he's huge and powerful, but like he hasn't played that

226
00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,160
Speaker 5: much football in college at all, really, and it's like

227
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,239
Speaker 5: we don't really have a huge.

228
00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,600
Speaker 6: Read on his long term durability.

229
00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920
Speaker 5: It's like you've got these iron men quarterbacks that no

230
00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360
Speaker 5: matter what, they play every week, and then if you're

231
00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,040
Speaker 5: gonna go do this with your body, it's like a

232
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,280
Speaker 5: bit of a there's a bit of a variable factor there.

233
00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,679
Speaker 4: Now, I want to circle back to what Dan said

234
00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,680
Speaker 4: about Tony Richardson as a Jets fan. Can you think

235
00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,400
Speaker 4: of a reason why that wouldn't be a great idea?

236
00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,079
Speaker 4: You know, how about the legendary fullback Tony Richardson's very

237
00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,680
Speaker 4: good sixteen years in the NFL, mostly for the Chiefs,

238
00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,400
Speaker 4: but he did have a few with the Jets there,

239
00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,760
Speaker 4: So that guy he already kind of took Tony Richardson.

240
00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000
Speaker 3: And then I also wanted to.

241
00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,319
Speaker 2: So you know, you worry about erasing that the fullback.

242
00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,920
Speaker 2: I understand that because it's already tough for a.

243
00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,439
Speaker 5: Fullback to have a niche and the league had two

244
00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,240
Speaker 5: Cam Newton's for a while, right, And what do you

245
00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,400
Speaker 5: know about the second one?

246
00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,440
Speaker 6: Well, no, he was overshadowed. It's no doubt.

247
00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,319
Speaker 4: I just mean that that there's already been a football

248
00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,160
Speaker 4: Tony Richards. I also am curious, and I know we

249
00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,480
Speaker 4: want this show to be, you know, fast moving, and

250
00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm turning into a hank attack.

251
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,960
Speaker 3: You want to share your exciting hot.

252
00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,959
Speaker 4: Take about the facial structure of Trevor Lawrence with the audience.

253
00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,280
Speaker 2: Sure, I think if you want to bring his face

254
00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:15,000
Speaker 2: up again, I think Trevor is, in many ways esthetically

255
00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:24,120
Speaker 2: a beautiful man, hyper masculine, symmetrical, symmetrical is great jawline, cheekbones,

256
00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:29,160
Speaker 2: very strong nose, character nose. But there's there's almost like

257
00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,520
Speaker 2: a strange lack of humanity to his face, like he's

258
00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,040
Speaker 2: the creation and ai creation of what a young franchise

259
00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880
Speaker 2: quarterback looks like. And maybe there's a little something jarring

260
00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,720
Speaker 2: with this long flowing hair, the blonde, dirty blonde mane.

261
00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,319
Speaker 2: In the contrast, it's almost like he's like a he

262
00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,800
Speaker 2: man figure and I guess I just struggle, maybe because

263
00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,000
Speaker 2: to see something that kind of functionally perfect, the way

264
00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,760
Speaker 2: he's been designed as a human is jarring to me,

265
00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,640
Speaker 2: a mere mortal.

266
00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,680
Speaker 5: I think it's like in those, you know, certain fantasy

267
00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,679
Speaker 5: type stories where like a statue comes to life that's

268
00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,400
Speaker 5: he looks like he's perfectly carved, and there's no argument

269
00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,680
Speaker 5: against his higher quality.

270
00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,439
Speaker 6: Looks like is what you'd probably design in many ways beauty.

271
00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,760
Speaker 6: But he looks designed kind of But also I'm trying

272
00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,360
Speaker 6: to compliment him.

273
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,800
Speaker 2: And who looked in the was Adonnas? Who looked in

274
00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,160
Speaker 2: the lake and froze the old myth, the old Greek myth?

275
00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,640
Speaker 2: Anybody the egotistical one. I believe there's an it Adonnas. Hey,

276
00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,600
Speaker 2: let's work on that one. Eric Le's get a little

277
00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,800
Speaker 2: help on that. But anyway, shout out to Trevor Lawrence

278
00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,560
Speaker 2: for giving some advice to the kid. And hopefully we

279
00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,360
Speaker 2: get seventeen games of Anthony Richardson and he finishes them

280
00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,199
Speaker 2: all one more. J. C. Horn. Gregie Panthers missed a

281
00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,760
Speaker 2: lot of last year with a foot injury. He's had

282
00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,319
Speaker 2: a wrist issue and now he's got a hamstring issue

283
00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,559
Speaker 2: that they're still evaluating. Obviously extremely frustrating for this kid

284
00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,319
Speaker 2: who can't seem to get it going.

285
00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,360
Speaker 4: And paper, he's one of their best players and their

286
00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,200
Speaker 4: defense is going to have to lead them and he

287
00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,880
Speaker 4: just cannot stay on the field. It's very frustrating and

288
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,080
Speaker 4: after watching the Panthers like, you're gonna want reasons to

289
00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,439
Speaker 4: watch the Panthers early this season, and J. C.

290
00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,880
Speaker 3: Horn has got to be one of them.

291
00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,040
Speaker 2: Let's let's ask the as we transition out of the

292
00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,920
Speaker 2: injury seg and let's ask the listeners we need some

293
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,560
Speaker 2: type of sting for this segment or this section which

294
00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,079
Speaker 2: is flotsam and jetsam and flotsam and jetsam or is

295
00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,080
Speaker 2: it flotsam and jetsam and jetsam and flotsam.

296
00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,400
Speaker 6: I think it's flotsam and jetsam, all right.

297
00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,680
Speaker 3: And this sounds better that way.

298
00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So flotsam and jetsam and jetsam and flotsam. And

299
00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,800
Speaker 2: if somebody can come up with some type of barbershop

300
00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,000
Speaker 2: a cappella sting and send it into what's an email

301
00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880
Speaker 2: that we could send it into the atnpodcast at gmail

302
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,520
Speaker 2: dot com, correct, we would be really appreciative and we'll

303
00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,199
Speaker 2: send you something.

304
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do have some breaking news if we could

305
00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,680
Speaker 6: do go real quick.

306
00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,560
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, he's.

307
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520
Speaker 2: Got he's only a one thumb technically.

308
00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,600
Speaker 6: No, no, absolutely, it was narcissus.

309
00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,720
Speaker 5: Narcissis the water fell in love with his own reflects.

310
00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,400
Speaker 6: Narcissism died, Yeah, died at the spring. So to the narcissism.

311
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,240
Speaker 5: If your narcissistic out there sort of floating around society,

312
00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:18,920
Speaker 5: look out a.

313
00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,360
Speaker 3: Little on the nose there, Greek mythologist.

314
00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,520
Speaker 2: Outures root word. But yeah, yeah, so and Adonnas was

315
00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,239
Speaker 2: just likes, was more like just adas physically like Adonas

316
00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,280
Speaker 2: was the mortal lover of the goddess Aphrodite.

317
00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,920
Speaker 3: Wow, kind of a Trevor Lawrence of his time.

318
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,080
Speaker 2: Good get Wait, so if you are getting aphrodite as

319
00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,040
Speaker 2: a mortal you're doing there's some things you got working

320
00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,480
Speaker 2: in here. Absolutely, there's no question put it that way. Yeah,

321
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,840
Speaker 2: it can be assumed. You, like Trevor Lawrence, you've probably

322
00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,160
Speaker 2: been set up very well in your life, all right.

323
00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:00,720
Speaker 2: Flats of the Jetsam Jetsam, Flatsam the Giants Cowboys ga again.

324
00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,200
Speaker 2: One of the greatest atrocities ever seen in primetime. Forty

325
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,160
Speaker 2: to nothing, and we were watching from the theater here

326
00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,480
Speaker 2: at NFL Network headquarters as Daniel Jones was getting smoked

327
00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,320
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter and I and h who were

328
00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,760
Speaker 2: talking about Mooch, was there. Yeah, Chris Rose like, what's

329
00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,680
Speaker 2: he doing out there? And I was like, I was

330
00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,880
Speaker 2: wondering aloud if it was one of those situations where

331
00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160
Speaker 2: the head coach is doing the head coach thing where

332
00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480
Speaker 2: he was like, I wanted to have something positive to

333
00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,560
Speaker 2: take out of this game and roll into next week.

334
00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,400
Speaker 2: And then Brian Dable, facing a lot of criticism after

335
00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,760
Speaker 2: the game, had this to say to the media, did

336
00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,880
Speaker 2: you ever think.

337
00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,800
Speaker 8: Of taking Daniel out because he took a pretty big

338
00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,440
Speaker 8: beating game.

339
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:41,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

340
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,880
Speaker 9: Now, now I was gonna let him see it through there,

341
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,600
Speaker 9: just until that last series, try to something positive going down.

342
00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,800
Speaker 9: We didn't have much going Uh. Just wanted to try

343
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440
Speaker 9: to get a you know, a positive drive and try

344
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,440
Speaker 9: to punch the ball into the end zone.

345
00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,600
Speaker 2: But that didn't happen. Yeah, I saw your tweet like that, Greg,

346
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 2: they put so much care, why don't you say it?

347
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,000
Speaker 4: Well, they won't play him in the preseason, you like,

348
00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,240
Speaker 4: can't get hurt in the preseason. Can't play a snap

349
00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,760
Speaker 4: in the preseason, and then they just got him out

350
00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,720
Speaker 4: there in these blowouts.

351
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. The difference a year makes mark because

352
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,240
Speaker 2: last year Brian Dable could do no wrong and you

353
00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,680
Speaker 2: just see how this season now starts and he's under

354
00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,200
Speaker 2: the spotlight for having the team in the eyes of

355
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,760
Speaker 2: people on the outside, not prepared, embarrassed, and then not

356
00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,680
Speaker 2: doing right by his quarterback and not protecting him. It

357
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,600
Speaker 2: was a mistake, but that's a very coach aspect outlook

358
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,520
Speaker 2: to have on things. And while we're here, and while

359
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,720
Speaker 2: we're talking about tweets, the twitter verse was just filled

360
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,160
Speaker 2: with various absurd nuggets tied to the lopside of nature

361
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,680
Speaker 2: of that game. Let's bring up a few of those. First,

362
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,680
Speaker 2: from the athletic no team has ever lost forty nothing

363
00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,600
Speaker 2: or worse, lost the sack battle seven zero or worse,

364
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,920
Speaker 2: lost the turnover battle three zero or worse, had a

365
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640
Speaker 2: block field goal return for a TD, threw a pick

366
00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,480
Speaker 2: six in the same season, the Giants did it all

367
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,760
Speaker 2: in one game. How about Bill Barnwell, that's absurd.

368
00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,520
Speaker 4: Well, that fortieth did nothing is where it really knocks

369
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,360
Speaker 4: a lot of teams out.

370
00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,520
Speaker 3: Not a lot of teams show last.

371
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,400
Speaker 2: Year, Bill Barnwell, our buddy Giants on Sunday Night against Cowboys,

372
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,680
Speaker 2: negative twenty three point eight offensive EPA, the Broncos game

373
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,600
Speaker 2: from the COVID year when Kendall Hinton, remember that played

374
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,080
Speaker 2: quarterback against the Saints. He was like a gunner or something.

375
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,520
Speaker 2: Negative twenty three point seven offensive EPA. And one more

376
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,760
Speaker 2: from Katie Sharp, who's awesome on baseball analytics, but I

377
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,600
Speaker 2: guess she's a Giants fan as well. Giants forty ninhing

378
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,280
Speaker 2: loss on Sunday is their worst shutout loss at home

379
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,399
Speaker 2: in franchise history. Has there ever been a bigger Bury

380
00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,080
Speaker 2: the ball game? I do not think so.

381
00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,400
Speaker 5: I can think of a year when the Browns beat

382
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960
Speaker 5: the Steelers in Week one nineteen eighty nine, fifty one

383
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,920
Speaker 5: to nothing, and that Steelers team went on to make

384
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 5: the playoffs as one of the more interesting teams I've

385
00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,240
Speaker 5: ever watched, Like they started off terribly and grew. And

386
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 5: if you're the coach of the Year, Brian Daball, like

387
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,200
Speaker 5: cool you last year things were kind of rolling and

388
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,640
Speaker 5: it was a new vibe and like Daniel Jones looked good,

389
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,440
Speaker 5: but it's like you've been handed like a as absolute

390
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 5: nightmare first act. How do you get yourself out of here?

391
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,320
Speaker 5: I would say this one thing reason I think he

392
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,359
Speaker 5: is a good coach. All those negative things, you got.

393
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 6: Him out of the way in one game. It's a

394
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,040
Speaker 6: good way to look at Its not dotting it week

395
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,440
Speaker 6: after week. Oh we either lost the sack record seven

396
00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 6: to nothing in week two. It's like you got him

397
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,440
Speaker 6: out of the way.

398
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,879
Speaker 4: I'd like to think though, for over forty million dollars

399
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,399
Speaker 4: at quarterback, a one hundred and four yard two interception,

400
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 4: seven tech game is just not on the table, Like

401
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,439
Speaker 4: there's a certain level of quarterback where that game just

402
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't happen on any level.

403
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 2: Now, you're just rolling in it. You're a pig rolling

404
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 2: in poop now because she didn't say that Joe Burrow

405
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,679
Speaker 2: yesterday and he's the highest paid player and they has

406
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 2: three of the sport.

407
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm just a pig and poop.

408
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm more like, yeah, we're like my little tourtois now.

409
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 2: Yes, Giants fans are saying, oh my god, how about

410
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,680
Speaker 2: Gino Smith, your little hero. He struggled with the rest

411
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 2: of the Seahawks against the Rams. Do you want to

412
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 2: tee this one up.

413
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 4: Well, let's everyone's already probably heard this. Everyone's had their

414
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 4: little fun of the miked up Gino Smith, uh, you know,

415
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 4: reacting when Aaron Donald's coming at him.

416
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 3: Pressure coming from Aaron Donald.

417
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 4: Okay, And I'm glad everyone had their fun there. But

418
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm also glad we we've got our own podcast here

419
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 4: because everyone thinks it's all about Aaron Donald and no

420
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 4: I did check. No one asked him about that. Unfortunately,

421
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 4: no one asked them about this. Hopefully someone will next name.

422
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 4: I'm almost positive he says, Oh my god, because he

423
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 4: almost threw a pick six there, and as he threw it,

424
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 4: one of the RAMS defenders, which he had no idea

425
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 4: was was hiding in wait, flashes out in front of

426
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 4: him and could have easily picked that off. And I think,

427
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 4: actually that's what he's saying, Oh my god, at not

428
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 4: at that Aaron Donald is coming out.

429
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 3: It's just a fact.

430
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter why said almost. I'm pretty certain, no

431
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: matter what the reason was, he defecated in his pants.

432
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 6: It seem the way. But I mean, great parabolic mic work.

433
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 5: By the way, we don't often hear what these guys

434
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 5: are saying out of the field, and like it was

435
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 5: nothing else human.

436
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 6: It made me like Gino a little bit more.

437
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 5: It's like whether or not you almost thought you threw

438
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 5: a pick six, you got like one of the largest

439
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 5: humans on the planet coming at you at the speed

440
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 5: of a car.

441
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 6: I mean, that's no, my god moment.

442
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: Also, like a man of faith that shows him to be.

443
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 3: Well he is.

444
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 4: That's that's probably someone who follows him on Twitter.

445
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 6: We know Greg and he follows back very We have

446
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 6: been well.

447
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 2: Versed in this. The Oh my god, the Raiders. How

448
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: about them Raiders? They had a nice start to their season.

449
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 6: Another team I nailed one win.

450
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you'll you'll get there that

451
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 2: game all right, Well it wasn't a game where I

452
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: watched the Raiders and I thought magic was coming the season.

453
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 2: But they got the win. And guess who won over

454
00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 2: their locker room in a big way. It was Jimmy Garoppo.

455
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: There's Josh Jacobs, man, he's a dog. Any quarterback that's

456
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: willing to take a hit in a big moment to

457
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: secure a win got my respect. I think is he

458
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: referring to that scramble that clinched the game?

459
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he took some good shots when he

460
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 4: was staying in the pocket too.

461
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 2: Here's Josh McDaniel on his new quarterback.

462
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 10: He's a he's a good leader. He's won a lot

463
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 10: of games in this league, you know, and you know that.

464
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 10: I think I think the guys in the locker room

465
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 10: know who they have and and what this guy can do,

466
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 10: how competitive he is. He's a very good leader. He's

467
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 10: a great communicator, you know, just does what it takes

468
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 10: to win, you know, doesn't give it. He didn't care

469
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 10: about his statistics or anything like that. It's just whatever

470
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 10: I got to do at my position to try to

471
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 10: help the team win, I'm going to try to do it.

472
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 10: So again, super happy that he's a raider.

473
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels needed that as well. That was a nice

474
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: win for Josh McDaniels.

475
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: I almost feel like Garoppolo is like his emotional support player,

476
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 4: Like how can how can I be unlikable if I've

477
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: got my buddy Jimmy g next to me.

478
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: That's what's going to make the whole thing more Like

479
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel still looking to find a career success out

480
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: of the shadow of Bill Belichick.

481
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy won many Super Bowls. Let's come down. Yeah,

482
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: on the Patriots, but the career success well hold on

483
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: outside the shadow of Bill.

484
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 5: Denver was about as big of a You copied Bill

485
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 5: Belichick's cheating scandal and that I mean, that's how unriginal

486
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 5: that was. Then he was the coordinator of the Rams

487
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 5: one year and they were like the thirty first ranked offense.

488
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 4: I was responding to the to the first the first part,

489
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 4: you know, I thought, so.

490
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: Let's head to Pat's corner and things are changing. Things

491
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: feel different around the Patriots now, just a new world order.

492
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: And Bill Belichick this jumped out to me. Bill did

493
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: his postgame mortem breakdown, was asked about a decision. What

494
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 2: was the decision that he made. I'm trying to remember.

495
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: They went for it on fourth and seventeen.

496
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: They went for it on fourth, and we talked about

497
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: that when it was happening from the newsroom. It was

498
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: four than twelve, and they get backed up by a

499
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: penalty to fourth and seventeen. This is not the most

500
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: high octane offense, and sure enough he throws a about

501
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: a thirteen yard strike to Hunter Henry. Henry drops it anyway,

502
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: but he was going to be smothered short of the

503
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: sticks by a couple of yards easily either way. Bill

504
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: Belichick actually admitted he shouldn't have done it on the radio,

505
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: on live airwaves. I don't remember this happening too often. Greg,

506
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: you could now you reckon me if I'm wrong. Here

507
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: we go, let's listen in Toney.

508
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 11: Look, there wasn't a lot of field position to be gained,

509
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 11: so we could have punted. You know, probably should have

510
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 11: punted on fourth and seventeen, but we're on their side

511
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 11: of the fifties too long per field goal. Fourth and

512
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 11: seventeens a lot tougher than fourth and twelve.

513
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: Is the great Belichick starting to doubt himself.

514
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 4: Maybe it's more that he's turning over some new lease.

515
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: I noticed how he was very enthusiastic and positive, trying

516
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: to like cheer up mac Jones after they scored their

517
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: second straight touchdown, to the point where like mac Jones

518
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: looked a little grumpy coming off the field, like he

519
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 4: didn't celebrate it, and Belichick was like, how come you're

520
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 4: not celebrating, bro, And mac Jones just went by, and

521
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: then Belichick actually followed him to the bench, and it's

522
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 4: like giving high fives and smiling. That to me was

523
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: a different sort of Belichick moment.

524
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what. I don't recall more than zero

525
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 6: of those.

526
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: But ray, if I was in the first quarter, the

527
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: second quarter of the game.

528
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 6: Maybe Belichick knows something we don't.

529
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: Maybe he likes his team daddy watch out.

530
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've been told by Twitter user that will

531
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: not be named here stop whispering as a sort of

532
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: an affect on the show. They can't hear it, So

533
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stop.

534
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: Or you could just speak up when you will.

535
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: That's I was like, do I ever? I was like,

536
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 4: do I ever do that? And then it just happened,

537
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: So I guess that happens.

538
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 2: And while we're on Pat's corner, our old friend, the

539
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: sentient power aid Bottle Solac, we heard yesterday him getting

540
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: amped up after your boy Boute nearly got a second

541
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: foot down. What we didn't hear was Scott Zolac of

542
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: w ee I getting a little fired up, a little

543
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: pot kettle black about the head coach of the Eagles,

544
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni. Let's listen in. I don't know if like

545
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: Philly has their complete cheer lakes.

546
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 9: WoT figured out, but like if they got an opening,

547
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 9: Sirianni can step in.

548
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the tom wave and.

549
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: He's for head coach.

550
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 10: The receiver did not get the second foot in bounds,

551
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 10: the pass is incomplete, it's a turnover on downs, it's

552
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 10: first down for Philadelphia.

553
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: It was a little judgy. It is like, you know,

554
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: for a head coach, it's like, here's the ultimate cheerleader

555
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: in the history of broadcasting.

556
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 6: Come on, he knows whose audience.

557
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the month the day after show.

558
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 4: Only the most trenchant news and analysis from around the

559
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 4: league are weekly.

560
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: Zolac.

561
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you're gonna hear of him

562
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: this year, quite honest, So take advantage of all week.

563
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: We hear from him more when they lose.

564
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Well, you know what, there was

565
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: a long time Gregi on this podcast where we were

566
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: hearing from him a lot of wins.

567
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: That's true. I'm owed about a decade of misery.

568
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith, speaking of misery, fantasy owners, they take what

569
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: the Falcons do on draft Day and they say to themselves, well,

570
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: obviously they're going to build their offense around these top

571
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: ten picks they keep using, and then the head coach

572
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: goes in different directions in terms of his scheming, and

573
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith already it's on his radar that this is

574
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: a talking point around the Falcons that somebody like Drake

575
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: London has zero catches, that Kyle Pitts cannot get the

576
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: ball in this offense, even Bejean Robinson not leading his

577
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: team and carries yesterday. All this stuff is baffling to

578
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: some people. But when a reporter asked Arthur Smith, how

579
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: is it the Desmond Ritter, the quarterback have more catches

580
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: than Drake London, the top ten pick. Arthur Smith and

581
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: his mustache, he wasn't about it.

582
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 7: If I were to tell you that Desmy would have

583
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 7: more receptions than Drake and you'd win, would you believe me?

584
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: A and B?

585
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 8: Would you figure I'm gonna not to be rude. I'm

586
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 8: gonna cut you off. Let the fantasy guys. We gotta

587
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 8: clean some things up.

588
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: Love it.

589
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 8: We can all be better at our spacing and the

590
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 8: targets is the most misunderstood thing in the National Football League.

591
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 8: There's progressions, they're spacing if somebody's underneath is not right.

592
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 8: That's the stuff where I'm a little irritated as a

593
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 8: coach that we had to fix at halftime, and that's

594
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 8: on me, it's on everybody, and we don't care. Drake

595
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 8: Lendon doesn't care. All we care about is one and all.

596
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Drake London cares. By the way.

597
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 5: Okay, well he might care, but I think that's tell

598
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 5: he's completely in the right.

599
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 6: Like I mean, that's fine. I'm glad that.

600
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Fantasy means is completely in the right. Oh he is.

601
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 6: He supposed to cater to fantasy.

602
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Forget about fantasy. But the more of the ideas. You

603
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: have these wildly talented skill players, at what point are

604
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: you going to find a way to get them actively involved.

605
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: It's very early in the season. I'm very excited to

606
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 2: see it'll happen. It should Drake len and the two

607
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: great receivers, you'll see it. Look every week at the

608
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: targets like he could talk about progressions and he knows

609
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: way more about football than I do. But they find

610
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: ways to get the ball to funnel targets to your

611
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: top guys. And it's interesting to me that that just

612
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: hasn't happened with these high profile pass catchers that they have.

613
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 5: Like if you if you like, contrasted to what Mike

614
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 5: McDaniel has done in like a regular season plus one

615
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: game with his star wide outs.

616
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 6: I understand.

617
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 5: I'm I'm saying he's right about the fantasy part, like

618
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 5: that's like given, but.

619
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: No one's arguing about that, like that was his That

620
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: was nice little.

621
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: All right, But it's like that that was if he

622
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: hadn't if he hadn't answered the fantasy question, we wouldn't

623
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: have even been already talked.

624
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: We don't even know what part B was Zach. You know,

625
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 4: probably I don't know who Zach is.

626
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: Man. They'll go with AM B and Jack.

627
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: I was trying to think, who's who's the Zach that

628
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: covers the Falcons. Can't think of one, can't find one.

629
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: I think he made a mistake going with the AA

630
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: and the B. At that point, he was he was

631
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: spinning once Arthur Smith cut him off. He's trying to

632
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: get be in. We'll never know what B is. But

633
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: the thing where Smith lost me a little bit though,

634
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 4: is Drake London cares. He cares a lot his future

635
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: money and livelihood. He wants to over the long haul. Yeah,

636
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: that actually could be a little bit of an issue

637
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: we saw in Baltimore in the Greg Roman era that

638
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: guys like Kyle Pits, Drake London and stuff. You do

639
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: want to make sure that they're involved in getting some

640
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: numbers because they're human beings.

641
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: They want to makes the offense better. But a big

642
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: part of this is do they have a quarterback to

643
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: facilitate such a thing as well? And that's the beautiful

644
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: thing about football. Season will unfurl and we will learn more,

645
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: more and more and more more coming.

646
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: More flatsome more, jetsam.

647
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: Got some flotsome flotsam jetsam, send it in the atn

648
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: podcast at gmail dot com. Coming up later tonight. In

649
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: your feed, you'll see the Monday night football recap Jets Bills.

650
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I'm noivous and U yes. For you

651
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: NFL plus subscribers and daz own subscribers, you will get

652
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: our first game of the week breakdown and we'll do

653
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: Dolphins Chargers. Sounds good.

654
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: This was good.

655
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: I mean, we had a couple of doubters speaking of

656
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: Nick Bosa and the haters out there. You know who

657
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: you are, Drew Kleinman, you said around the NFL.

658
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: Podcast Sessi's right here.

659
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: Can't do anything short, but you get at thirty one

660
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: minutes and this thing we're landing it.

661
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 6: It what an achievement we're doing it. We were at

662
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 6: thirty we.

663
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Did it, so thank you everybody. We'll do this every

664
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: Monday and keep listening, keep subscribing, and don't worry. It

665
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: feels like too much. No show tomorrow, so you have

666
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: plenty of time to catch up. Not too much so

667
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: until then, until Monday night football Heath The

668
00:30:50,080 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 9: Call to Patt