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Speaker 1: Rapport podcast coming live from the room toom. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: this is Michael Rappaport. How are you? Uh? I am

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Speaker 1: really dig deep with Tom Cruz and uh, I think

423
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Speaker 1: I I think I'd like to. And I know him,

424
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Speaker 1: I've never interviewed him, which is Howard Stern, which is

425
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: sort of who is he? You're from New York, he

426
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't know, but he's a North holliway the guy, but

427
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: North maybe on the tables and really dig deep, like

428
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: when he really gets into those really dig deep interviews,

429
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: flip the script and go deep with him, right, I mean,

430
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's his interviews, don't you think, Like I mean,

431
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: his interviews have because his show has evolved so much,

432
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: but his interview process because you know, like I think

433
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: the main thing is that there's got to be an interest.

434
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: But his interview skills are they're so good because he

435
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: he can make people that I could give two ships

436
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: about an interesting interview and it's not even him doing

437
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: all the talking. It's just him prying. He's prying the

438
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: humanity out of them. Yes, And I think that's that's

439
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: the thing. I think that's a good list. That's a

440
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: good list. And who out of the three people or

441
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: you could say one or two like where you were

442
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: like a mountaintop moment that you were any ring that

443
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: you were kind of like, holy sh it, I can't

444
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: believe that I'm getting to do this for people that

445
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: you that you've interviewed, Well, they're guys I really like,

446
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: there's guys whose ability I really respect. I mean there's

447
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: there's two answers. Um. It's fun when every once in

448
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: a while, someone like Alec Baldwin will just call in,

449
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: just listening, just calling in, read a tweet calling it.

450
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to have a guy like that

451
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: call in. Um for me, Uh, I'm I'm really flattered

452
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: when the guys I think are really gifted, like a

453
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: Seth McFarlane or Brian Kranston want to come in talk

454
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: consider me a friend. And that's really flattering, uh to me. Um,

455
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: you know, being a that just be on the radar

456
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: of a you know, Donald Trump or whomever is kind

457
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: of kind of cool. You know, it's crazy, like, oh,

458
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm this is this is gonna be part of his

459
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: because for him to be interviewed by you, Donald Trump,

460
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's obviously needs to be some sort of

461
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: benefit to Donald Trump. It's not just because he likes

462
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: the cadence of your voice or he loves the Man Show.

463
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's like there's got to be so there's

464
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's flattering, you know, yeah, yeah, it is,

465
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: it is. It is flattering, and uh, you know for me, um,

466
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: just being able. You know, it was actually little moments

467
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: I think for me are nice, Like Um, I had

468
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Springer in here a couple of weeks ago. Jerry

469
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Springer sat where you're sitting. And all we talked about

470
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: was the Holocaust. His family was from Germany. There were

471
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: Jews from Germany. He fled that killed everybody. He got out,

472
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: his parents got out. Then he grew up in Brooklyn

473
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And there was no discussion of

474
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: throwing chairs, paturn, any tests or anything. And I could

475
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: tell you loved it. I'm sure he loved talking about

476
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: his family, loved talking about his heritage's talking about his

477
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: nana and his grandpa and blah blah blah and his

478
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: German this and that, the Holocaust and all everything, and

479
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: like when we're done, he was just like he was

480
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: like thank you, And I'm like, I don't thank me.

481
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: You were great. You know It's like, uh, boy, that

482
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: felt good. Like he just didn't want to answer this. Guys,

483
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: didn't want to answer one more question. You know what

484
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: he didn't want, Jerry was the craziest thing that ever

485
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: happened on your show. And you have to tell the

486
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: same story to seventy two times and uh to me.

487
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: When when you can get a guy like Jerry Springer

488
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: who's his out there as you can, I mean, is

489
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: known for one thing, as you can possibly get. I mean,

490
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: second only to the Burger King King in terms of

491
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: being known for this, and talked to the dude for

492
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: an hour, and it's all about Germany has heritage, his family,

493
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: the Jews. They lived in this village. I moved at

494
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: that village and the Holocaust hit, they got around up,

495
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: they got and it literally, Jerry, we didn't even get

496
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: to the point where he was mayor of Cincinnati. Still

497
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: the whole other thing. We're talking about, this whole political

498
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: activeness in the sixties and being part of the Black movement,

499
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and it's like we didn't even get

500
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: to it right that. I like, that's that's uh that.

501
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: I gotta listen to that because I you know, I

502
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: heard that he was a mayor and like you're like,

503
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: how the fund is he a Mary's doing this crazy

504
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: show with the stuff and all that stuff. So I mean,

505
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I gotta, uh, I didn't even always Jewish. Yeah, I mean,

506
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: you show a picture him now and then you say

507
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: springer and then you'd say in German accent and maybe

508
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Springberg or Springerberg was, but yeah, this whole family is Jewish.

509
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,840
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Speaker 1: American Giant. All right, so let me ask you a question.

516
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm in the process. I either want to move, tear

517
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the fucking place down and redo it, or that that

518
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: that's training where I'm at my house. Now obviously you

519
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: haven't been there, you haven't seen it. But I like,

520
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm so scared to to to get into a major

521
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: construction thing. Now. I know you're you have like you need,

522
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: You probably have a hundred questions you you want to ask,

523
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: But like when how I'm so scared of getting fucked

524
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: by contractors. Everyone's scared of getting fucked by somebody. And

525
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: contractors are the people like they're known as real fox fuckman.

526
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: They're real, they're real stickman, the real coxman, their coxman

527
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: when it comes to fucking people, and like they have

528
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: a reputation. I've never been fucked by contractor. Yet I'm

529
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: scared of get fucked by a contractor. I mean, if

530
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: you do a total tear down, does your relationship go

531
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: to shreds? Like my my, my girls, Like I don't

532
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: want to do it. I know it's gonna be banned.

533
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: We have to move out. That's more money, and you're

534
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: paying a mortgage that's more money. They say six months,

535
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be eleven months. I mean, is is

536
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: there any way to get around the nightmare of it?

537
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: And our construction people real coxman and fuckers? And did

538
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: they do it on purpose? Well, there's some few answers.

539
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Not all of them are horrible, as I try to

540
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: explain to everybody all the time, and you probably experienced

541
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: this yourself growing up. These guys didn't gravitate towards this

542
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: profession because I have a love of woodworking, working with

543
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: their hands. Now they're the losers we went to high

544
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: school with, who have to eat. None of them want

545
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: to do it. I am I I. It's like, have

546
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: you ever met a poolman who wanted to be a poolman?

547
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: And or was he just a dude with a pickup

548
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: truck who needs a gig? He's not a pool man.

549
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Nobody said they wanted to be a pool man when

550
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: they're asked in high school what do you want to be?

551
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: And my theory for all these guys is for about

552
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: eleven thou dollars cash, you can get him to stop

553
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: doing whatever they were doing for the rest of their lives.

554
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: That means you're not into this profession. They're handful of dudes.

555
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: There's a handful of dudes to take a lot of

556
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: pride in their work and so on and so forth. Unfortunately,

557
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: this guy is almost always busy because the word gets

558
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: around pretty quick. So the first thing you need, sort

559
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: of it's like all the hot chicks a boyfriends. You

560
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: need a guy who's busy, because if he's just hanging around,

561
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: he hasn't worked in six months. He's no good all

562
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: of all. Almost all of work construction work is referral.

563
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: It's almost all referral, and when you're good, you're never

564
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: out of work for a day. He is a reb

565
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: of fact. There's a line of people wanting to get

566
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: you over to their house, but that seems like a

567
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: hustle going busy. I'm busy, I'm busy. And then they

568
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: don't like because I had a guy he he would

569
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: do something. He was I'm busy. I mean like I'll

570
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: be over there at two o'clock and then like he

571
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: doesn't show and then like he was like Mr busy,

572
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Mr fucking busy. Is that like, is that like a

573
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: sort of reverse psychology? You know what I'm saying? That

574
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: could be a trap. I don't think these guys know

575
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: what reverse psychology. They don't even know what regular psychology is. Uh, referrals.

576
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Look at the guy's work and and see if he's

577
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: if you know what you're really at the end of

578
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: the day, I hate that I said that, but at

579
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you need to have pride.

580
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: You need to have that sense of do the right thing,

581
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: make it right. You know, I'm not gonna leave on

582
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: a Friday and the place is going to be a

583
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: mass Take a half hour, everyone clean up, wipe your

584
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: feet before you come into the house, you know what

585
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean. Pride, Pride ultimately is the only thing that

586
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: keeps these guys in line. And if they don't have pride,

587
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: if they don't give a ship and they just want

588
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: to make a buck, you're you're gonna get fucked. If

589
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: if they have pride Like if a guy, if a

590
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: guy is showing you his you know, the guys will

591
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: have a website now or they'll have a book like

592
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: a model with the book, you know, and the guy's

593
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: going through it, and you can get that vibe even

594
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: if you don't know the language, but you get the

595
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: vibe of pride. He's showing you the kitchen he remodeled.

596
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: He's proud of it. He's talking about the detail in

597
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: the cabinetree and at the type you know when they

598
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: want with self closing euro hinges and they stepped up

599
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: to the accuride full extension slides, all ball bearing, you

600
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I always go full extension, accuride,

601
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: all ball bearing and blah blah blah. If you can

602
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: feel the guy bragging a little bit, that's a good

603
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: pride he's got in that. Yeah, that feel that pride. Dude,

604
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: do do you think that? Like have you ever like,

605
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: have you ever done like a job for higher since

606
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: you were like Adam cruel and like to like contract

607
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: somebody else's home. Uh No. I in my earliest days

608
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: when I was on k Rock doing a character in

609
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the morning, I built in the I worked at Rock

610
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I re remodeled the studio. Ran

611
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: I went to being of Kevin and Bean's house and

612
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: built him a uh CD bookshelf holder that held like

613
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: ten thousand CD system. You did this yourself. Yeah, you

614
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: can do this ship right like you you you you

615
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: can fucking build things like you know how to do

616
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: this physical ship right. I built the studio and I

617
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: built this console. You did this with the curve and

618
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing I would call the radius, but yes, okay, okay,

619
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: I say it's a curve. You're saying, so the radius

620
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: of this this beautiful console you angled this puppy out

621
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: like this slant? Was that called a slant? Uh yeah,

622
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: I would call that a champer, but go ahead, okay,

623
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: but this slant or champ for that, I never even

624
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: heard that word, Like you did this whole fucking thing now,

625
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: Like like I noticed like a slight protrusion here, like

626
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, I'm not saying that you

627
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: like right here? Is that is that warterdam? Like what

628
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: do you see there's a slight sort of thing here.

629
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying, like you know what I'm saying,

630
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: But I didn't invite you to my studio to have

631
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: it critique in front of your nine listeners that I

632
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: find rounding up. Uh yeah, No, I'll give you the

633
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: God's honest when it comes to you can build. That's impressive. Yes,

634
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: I built this studio and I built this console. But

635
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: this console I built for me and I built for

636
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: work like I did not. If I was building it

637
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: for you and I was charging for you, you wouldn't

638
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: see this seam that's going along here. And I would

639
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: have put it's sort of like auto body work, you know,

640
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: you put a little more time in when I'm saying

641
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: metal and in primer and the paint comes out and

642
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: you've had all kind of degenerates Hatten, this is this is.

643
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: This thing is five years old and it's it's a

644
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: work bench basically. But I and and this like foam

645
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: rubber pad around it. I would have gone with something

646
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: a little cooler or nice or whatever, but I wanted

647
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: it to just be practical. Put your elbows on it

648
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: when you're talking. No, I get it, I get but

649
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like, so, I what you're looking at here

650
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: is a good design. With me, about a seven and

651
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: a half execution in terms of I came in on

652
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: a Saturday alone and just laid up this for Mica

653
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: myself because I used to do a lot of laming

654
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: it work in just one day. Oh that's this is that,

655
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: the laying up the for micast minutes. Because when it

656
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: comes to like hammering a nail in the wall, no bullshit,

657
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: if if, if it doesn't go right, two things happen.

658
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: Either it goes right in and it's fine, and then

659
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: whatever I'm hanging is crooked, and then I have to

660
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: redo it or you'll get a soft east to the wall.

661
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: This is basic ship. I'm not ashamed of it. And

662
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: then like the nail won't hold or you'll hit I

663
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: think it's a stud and then you have to like

664
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even do that, do you know

665
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And like you would see me like

666
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: the way I talk, and I'm a big guy, Like

667
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: it's pathetic that I can't. Like duct tape to me

668
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: is the end all, be all solvent of everything. Most

669
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: most guys don't know what the hell they're doing, but

670
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: why should they. It's not it's not something they've done,

671
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like like instead of like school,

672
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: like algebra, I don't give a fuck, Like what about

673
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: like you know, picture hanging class, like for a semester

674
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: that could have major in that. You know what I'm saying,

675
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: I well, I do, and you know the long and

676
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: the short of it with me is and I agree,

677
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: like shop class much better than algebra or whatever in

678
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: terms of big picture learning how to use tools, learn

679
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: how to use your hands. I did this stuff full

680
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: time as a profession for a living, so it wasn't

681
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: ever a hobby for me. And the what I'm saying

682
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: is is it's really hard to get to a level

683
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: where you can do commercial work like tenant improvement work,

684
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: like that's what this space would be, metal studs, drop

685
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: in t bar, ceiling, blah blah blah, That's that's what

686
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: this would be. And then there's you know, sort of

687
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: custom home stuff and residential stuff and all that I did.

688
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: Earthquake rehap I worked at a European cabinet shops that

689
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: was all on the metric system. I worked at a

690
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: custom closet shop, and at custom closets were calling old

691
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: school cabinet shop where we just did tons of this

692
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: like lambing it and stuff like I've done every everything

693
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: and I did it fifty hours a week for over

694
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: a decade, so I knew what every tool did and

695
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: how everything worked. And that The thing that I try

696
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: to convey to people is once you get your brain

697
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: working in a certain way, which is a problem solving way,

698
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: which I've got my brain working on because of building,

699
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: always building, it's just problem it is. Here's what building is.

700
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: It's solving problems, but it's mainly looking down the road.

701
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: It's always what's next. It's always we're framing now. But

702
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: when we put the five eighths drywall on, then we're

703
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna change the depth of our jam because now we're

704
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna add another five eighths to the inside and the outside.

705
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: Talking Portuguese to me, see once you said framing in

706
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: five as in depth. I admire the Portuguese, but I

707
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk you're saying. I wish I did. Well.

708
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is I'll give you an example.

709
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean it. It'll be a basic, fairly crude, no

710
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: ship Sherlock example. But here's what it is. You're gonna

711
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: order the doors, You're gonna order the windows. You're gonna

712
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: order that ship three months in advance. You're framing a wall. Yeah, okay,

713
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: the wall is two by four. Studs two by four

714
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: are three and a half inches, all right, how thick

715
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: you gotta put the windows in when they come in

716
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: three months? You want to put a door jam in,

717
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: it's got to be flush with the out with the walls, right,

718
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: So the studs are three and a half inches. But

719
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: once you put the five eighths on the inside drywall

720
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: in on the other side of the walls you just added,

721
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: it's wider. You just you just added an inch in

722
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: a quarter. So when you're ordering your jam material, instead

723
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: of three and a half, you're at four and three quarters.

724
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: But you're ordering the ship three months in advance. Figure

725
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: it out, now, order it then when it comes, because

726
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: when it comes, you're gonna have the dry wall. But

727
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: that's trial and error though, right, Like how many mistakes

728
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: do you have to make to get the fucking door in?

729
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: The thing? Like that would take me what you just said,

730
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: six months. It's a kind of a it's a kind

731
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: of a thing where it's like a technique, which is

732
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: it's a way of thinking meets a technique. The door

733
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: behind you has a strike side and a butt side.

734
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: The strike side is to the left where the handle is,

735
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: and the butt size it calls where the hinges are. Now,

736
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set that door jam in that opening, in

737
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: that rough opening. I'm not gonna set the door jam

738
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: where the hinges are, the top header is and the

739
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: strike and then put the door in. I'm going to

740
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: take a level and i'm gonna set the side where

741
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: the hinges go, and i'm gonna make it plumb, and

742
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it right. Then I'm gonna hang the

743
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: door and set the rest of the jam around the door.

744
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: See when I started, I would have thought, well, hang

745
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: that thing, bolt the whole thing in, screw the whole

746
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: thing in, get it all to get the up Now

747
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: I know, just hang the side with the hinges and

748
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: then wing the door, and when the door shuts, work

749
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: the margin around it, the reveal around it, so it's

750
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: an eighth inch all the way around. No matter what's

751
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: all or what's whatever, you have the same all around.

752
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: Don't set the jam on the other side, don't set

753
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: the top jam, swing the door, then set it. I

754
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I just want you to I don't know what the

755
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: funk you're saying at him, And I admire it so much.

756
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I want to I want to. I want to switch

757
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: up because I know how much you love boxing. And

758
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm actually doing an episode solely on this. But it's

759
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: the thirty fifth anniversary of my favorite movie and and

760
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: and uh um, I wanted to talk to about that

761
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: and then talked about boxing. It's a three anniversary of

762
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Raging Bull, the film that yeah so so first of all,

763
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about, like, what do

764
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: you think I mean as a performer, as an actor,

765
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: as an admirer of film, as now a filmmaker yourself,

766
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: talk to me about Raging Bull in terms of the context,

767
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, like just to just to sort of preface it. Uh,

768
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, it was. It was voted the best film

769
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: of the eighties. Um, as far as I'm concerned, it

770
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: was like a benchmark of acting. I don't think that

771
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: de Niro's performance has ever been duplicated, because I don't

772
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: think another production will allow an actor to start one way,

773
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: shut down for six months, and then gain weight within

774
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: the same movie, which is what they did for Raging Bowl.

775
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Um so too, I mean, you know, you know, it's funny.

776
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: I was watching that movie the other day. I love

777
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: that movie. I love everything about that movie. I love

778
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: the comedy in it. There's a lot of comedy, and

779
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: talk to talk about that well. I mean, Pesci and

780
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: de Niro are great, and they have these great scenes

781
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: that are born from all this tension, and you know,

782
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: like the scene where he's telling him to punch him,

783
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm not gonna punch you. You're my brother.

784
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: Why would I punch it? And then by the end

785
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: of the scene he's trying to kill him. It's that's

786
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: a great comedy, right, but that has done completely dry.

787
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: Nobody's winking at the camera. There's no smiling going on.

788
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: It's like the purest form of comedy. It's actual. It's

789
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: an actual thing that's taking place, which is like a

790
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: really pure comedy concept, which is very beginning of the

791
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: scene is I would never do this thing to you.

792
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: You're my brother. I wouldn't even do it to a stranger,

793
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: much less my own brother. And then by the end

794
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: of the scene, I'm trying to kill you, and it

795
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: comedically is a very strong choice. So I love that.

796
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: I love all the comedy in the movie that you

797
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: may not even get or understand. I love when Dania

798
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: tells his wife to get out of get out of

799
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: the room. And then and then Pesci looks at his

800
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: wife and goes, yeah, what do you look at that?

801
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: Get out of here? And I like, you tell he's

802
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: just kind of doing with his big brother. Just did

803
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: lots of good subtle stuff. I was thinking about that

804
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: movie because it was on the other day, and I

805
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: was like realizing that, you know, everyone's like, well, he

806
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: had to get into shape and they shot all that ship,

807
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: and then later then he got fat and shot all

808
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: that ship. And then I was picturing the scene where

809
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: he had the Gennero fight coming up and he was

810
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: calling him up, stop beating so much, you fat fuck

811
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you gotta you gotta make weight, and

812
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: he does this thing where he's like, look, you make weight.

813
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: You beat the crap out of this guy. You don't

814
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: make weight, and all these other guys have been ducking.

815
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to come out. But it doesn't hurt

816
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: your reputation. If you win, you win, right right, Just

817
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: get down to a hundred right right. And I was

818
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: simply looking at it and I was like, yeah, he's

819
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: he's a hundred and seventy five pounds. Here a hundred

820
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: seventy pounds. Did they film this in between they go

821
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: get this scene in between the in shape scenes and

822
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: on the way up. They must have got it when

823
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: he was on the way up, what you mean, because

824
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: he wouldn't want to go down again. He started obviously

825
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: at the best shape. And I know what you mean

826
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: because throughout the film he starts gaining a little bit

827
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: of weight. He's out of shape, and then later on

828
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: he's you know, a fat slop and and all of

829
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: it's without a fat suit, and and and and you know,

830
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: it's like I don't think like any production will ever

831
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: like that will never be achieved again. And at the time,

832
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's still like you know, it was like

833
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: as far as like an actor, like you're like, funk man,

834
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a fucking performance, Like you know, you

835
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: get to do all these things, you get to explore

836
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, your you know, all these these different emotions,

837
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: and then physically actually has have the time to physically

838
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: change to start two extremes. To start it really fit

839
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: in shape and like you know, become a boxer and

840
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: then at the end become this fat fuck with no

841
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: fat suit. And it's just like it's just sort of

842
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: a benchmark, you know what I mean, and then the

843
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: direction and the camera movement and everything about it. Everything,

844
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, it was really it was too much too

845
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: soon for us to fully appreciate eight and fully absorbed.

846
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: It was like you were nine year old watching Fantasia

847
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: or something and he just couldn't appreciate the artistry in

848
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: it because we were like too immature, too much, you know,

849
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: it would It's like it's literally a movie that in

850
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: we couldn't fully absorbed. I mean we you know, people

851
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: are like, oh, yeah, that's a good movie, but you

852
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: know Mannequin is pretty good movie too, right. It's like, no, no, no,

853
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: this is not i mean, on the same planets as

854
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: any other movie that's really even come before it, And

855
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: we couldn't. We were almost felt like like it's like

856
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: you're you're a dog and you tell the dog don't

857
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: you like the Kobe baby beef? And the dog goes no,

858
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: I like the I like the dog food because it's

859
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: got like guts and she hadn't ship and you're like,

860
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: but eat the Kobe. That's that's it. Can't appreciate it.

861
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like it's all it's not good enough. It actually

862
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: thinks that the Burger Patty that should just slid out

863
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: of here. Uh, Burger King Bun is better than the

864
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: Kobe Beef because it's not good enough. Yeah, we weren't

865
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: good enough in to really absorb that movie. And I

866
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: and I totally agree with what you're saying because I

867
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: think that. I mean, I was so young when I

868
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: saw it. I saw it in the theater in I

869
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: was only ten. But for some reason, when I saw

870
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: it in the theater at ten, you know, it resonated

871
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: on some sort of emotional level. I mean when you

872
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: think about the content of it, and I'm like, and

873
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I love this movie. I want to

874
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why. But but then like I mean,

875
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: I just I watched it again. I've seen that movie

876
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: probably more than I've seen any other movie besides the

877
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: uh you know, like like you know Godfather, which I

878
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: know you don't know anything about, and you said you

879
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: don't know who Marlon Brando is. Again, I'm gonna throw

880
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: that at you know, no, you don't know it sounds

881
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: from me, it's fine, it's fine, but like the camera moves,

882
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: the editing, the sound, like everything about it, every thing

883
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: that that that was going on with Scorsese. It's like

884
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: a fucking It's like a mural of just perfection. It's

885
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: not a movie, it's it's not It's like this huge thing,

886
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: and it's like the more you look at it, the

887
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: more colors, like, oh, I didn't even realize there was

888
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: purple in it, you know, I didn't realize all look

889
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: in the corners, there's yellow there. Like it's just a

890
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: perfect piece of art. Um. I agree, and I and

891
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's funny because everybody always

892
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: talks about being inspired by that kind of greatness. And

893
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, whenever anyone ever talks to me about getting

894
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: into comedy, I always go, well, I used to listen

895
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: to Jack Off morning teams when I was swinging a hammer,

896
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, funk, I'm funny on those

897
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: two assholes. And then I'd find out how much they

898
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: were getting paid and what their hours were, and what

899
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: a great life they had, and I was like, fuck

900
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: that I could do that ship. And in a weird way,

901
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: seeing Scorsese and seeing Raging Bull makes me not want

902
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 1: to make a movie, because you go, I could never

903
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: do that. Right. He took it to another level and

904
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: especially because you know, I'm sure you must have. It

905
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: must have been in your your head and your your

906
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: thought process when you were doing The Hammer, because it's

907
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: like it's a boxing movie, and it's like, you know,

908
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: Raging Bull Rocky like two of the most you know,

909
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: iconic movies and all the other boxing films, but you know,

910
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: those two movies are so like part of uh you know,

911
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: they're like pop culture things and and they're you know,

912
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: they're totally different. I didn't even I wasn't even gonna

913
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: begin to compare anything I was doing anything that those

914
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: guys you're doing. I was just like, I got an

915
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: idea for comedy, and I'm just gonna make this movie.

916
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: But there's just no I probably would have never stopped

917
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: throwing up if I was thinking about Raging Bull shot.

918
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy, all right? So are you are you? I

919
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: know you love boxing, and I know you boxing, and

920
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: obviously you know I really really like The Hammer? Um,

921
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: where's your head at with boxing? Now? And you FC?

922
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: Do you are you? Have you gotten into UFC? Yeah?

923
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: What so? And and what do you think of Rohonda Rousey?

924
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: And and do you think that someone should be called

925
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: the greatest fighter ever? If she's never been punched up

926
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: until she fought Hollyholm. We have this thing now where

927
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: we're in a super duper hurry to make everyone into

928
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: a role model and everyone into a folk hero. And

929
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of stupid. It It doesn't really, it

930
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: doesn't happen with white males, for instance, who are straight.

931
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: But if you're gay and you're coming out of college

932
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: to play football in the NFL, or your Rhonda Rousing

933
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, in a second, we're trying real hard to

934
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: see what we can get out of you, Caitlyn jenn

935
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: or whoever. It's like everybody's got to be the next

936
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: herod Jr. Another good poorn name, right, that's a good hero.

937
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: Desur is better than Madison Avenue Asian broad hot hot

938
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: hot half Asian half Puerto Rican. Oh heroes is Shore

939
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: love to work with her. She's fantastic on film, Super

940
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Tannery all so um, everybody's looking for that next person,

941
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: and I think we end up sitting around kind of going, well,

942
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: she's impressive, or he's impressive, or they're impressive, but I

943
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: need a couple of you gotta get into the NFL

944
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: and make the Pro Bowl, and then we can start

945
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: talking about your make make a couple of pro bowls,

946
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: and then we'll start talking about your legacy. Let's not

947
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: put the legacy in front of the horse here. And

948
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: we are so I don't know what it is like

949
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: fixated in this this need to prop somebody up and

950
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: have this thing where it's like she's she's going to

951
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: teach my daughter that you can be beautiful, and you

952
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: can be talking like my daughter doesn't need Rhonda Rousey

953
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: for anything. I have no qualms with Rhonda Rousey, but

954
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't need my daughter to find some her daughter

955
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: can look at her mom as a female role model

956
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: who she emulates, uh and and or whomever. But we

957
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: with this thing of like they need they need. My

958
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: daughter doesn't need anybody. She's got me, she got her brother,

959
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: she got her mom, she's got a good family, she

960
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: goes to good schools. She's fine. And I don't really

961
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: want her thinking I gotta be beautiful and I gotta

962
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: be able to punch people in the face, Like I

963
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: I don't want her punching people in the face. And

964
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to focus on her beauty either. I

965
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: just like her to be a good little citizen. Um

966
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: so we never stop with this. And then what happens

967
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: is is if you dare speak up, you know, if

968
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: you're the one who's gonna go I don't know whatever

969
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: that chick comic. I don't think she's that funny. And

970
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: then yeah, boy, then you're speaking out against women and

971
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: you don't support women, and you're everything. And my feeling is, um,

972
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why everyone feels like, I mean, the

973
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: one good part about my white privilege and being heterosexual

974
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: and male and having a family with no business and

975
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: no money. We did before in the bathroom, does that

976
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: still keep you as heterosexual? Is that it makes me straighter?

977
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: Because I was behind Okay, all right, we'll go ahead,

978
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: go ahead. So I was just asked because you were

979
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: like very insistent on doing that. You were like, before

980
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: we do the podcast, you go behind your straighter certain cultures. Okay, okay, okay. Um.

981
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: I get to just go through life making my own decisions.

982
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't need to be inspired by anybody, you know

983
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't he just like, oh, Jerry

984
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: Seinfeld's white, he's a male, he's heterosexual, and he's doing comedy. Well,

985
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: that means I can do you know, Bill Clinton, he

986
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: was the president and he was a white, heterosexual male.

987
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: That means I, you know, this notion of like you

988
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: need to see a black fireman to want to be

989
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: a fireman if you're black eleven year old. I don't

990
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: totally sign off on this. I get the fact that

991
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: it helps or could help. But if you want to

992
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: be a fireman, be a fireman, and if you don't, don't.

993
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: And as a society we should just have the same

994
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: opportunities for anyone who wants to be a fireman. No,

995
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: I hear you. And that's about where I begin and

996
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: end with this thing, which is I like, I'm Italian.

997
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: That's fine with me. I like cars and there's a

998
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: lot of good ones that come out of Italy, so

999
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: that's good. On the other hand, that's about the last

1000
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: year me talk about it. I was born here and

1001
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: that's what I focus on. It had it had nothing

1002
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: to do with that. So but but as a sport,

1003
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: where are you at with UFC? Because at first, like

1004
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this is too violent, this is too much,

1005
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: and then like sort of like boxing is in such

1006
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: a fucked up state right now, like you know, like

1007
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: the sport itself, like I don't know when. I don't

1008
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: know what or when or if there's ever going to

1009
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: be a fight that's paid per view worthy that's really

1010
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna be like like you know, unlet's Mayweather packy, I

1011
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: do have a square dance. Let's say planets now, I

1012
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: I think it's uh Canello and Triple G. Don't you

1013
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: think that's a crazy fight for for Canelo, I mean

1014
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: triples like one seventy one s and this guy's like

1015
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: one fifty. Well, Cannello is a young dude, and Cannelo

1016
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: is growing and and and I think you can see

1017
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: him physically getting stronger and each time he gets in

1018
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: the ring, and you know, I think Mayweather, for instance,

1019
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: got hold of him. You know, Mayweather is very strategic

1020
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't want to see this guy

1021
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: when he's twenty seven, but I'll see him at twenty two.

1022
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be forty one and he's

1023
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: going to be twenty seven. I'll get my ass kicked.

1024
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: I'll fight him when he's twenty two and I'm thirty seven.

1025
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: That'll be good, you know. And so m there's a

1026
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: lot of that going it's a lot of that going on. Yeah,

1027
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: but Cannelo is a young dude, and he's making his

1028
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: way up and he's getting stronger and he's getting better.

1029
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: And and Canello, you know, a year from now, maybe

1030
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: a catchweight one fifty seven or so could be an

1031
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: interesting fight Triple G. I put my money on Triple G,

1032
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: but we need to find a catchweight. And Canello again,

1033
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: he's young, just keeps getting stronger and keeps getting better

1034
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: and all that. Now, I wouldn't want to see the

1035
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: Canelo that fought Floyd Mayweather fight Triple G. But I'd

1036
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: like to see the Canelo that's um a year from now,

1037
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: keep improving and keep growing. Yeah. Um, do you get

1038
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: excited at all? Like about about UFC the way you

1039
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: did about boxing and the way you you do about boxing?

1040
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: Like do you is there anything with UFC there? You

1041
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: were like, Yeah, I mean it's a fun sport. I

1042
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: like it, and I think I think what it is is.

1043
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: I do think with boxing, once there's too much money

1044
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: at stake, guys stop fighting and they start thinking, you

1045
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And they start thinking and they

1046
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: start making business decisions, you know what I mean? And

1047
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think in a weird way, we saw

1048
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather sort of making business decisions all the way

1049
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: through his career, and you know he finished at forty nine,

1050
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: and oh, Rocky Marciano finished at forty nine, and oh,

1051
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: but we didn't see Rocky Marciano making business decisions along

1052
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: the way. We found him sort of, whoever's next, we're

1053
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: getting in the ring. We'll do it every three weeks

1054
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, and and I'll find a find a guy

1055
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: twenty pounds heavier and me, I don't care like that.

1056
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: You know, all that stuff was what we wanted to see.

1057
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Now there's too many people involved, too many advisors, and

1058
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: there's just too much money and what a loss can

1059
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: cost is incredible. So there's becomes this whole financial side

1060
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: of it, and the UFC. We'll probably end up getting

1061
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: there because everything eventually gets big enough, there's enough money there.

1062
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Fights that are just like, look that fights too dangerous.

1063
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: You don't need that fight. You got these other pay

1064
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: days here. I think it's happening with the women now

1065
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: because they're not letting Home fight Holly Holm fight before

1066
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: the Ronda Rowsei rematch. No, that's what they're saying, and

1067
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. So she obviously beat rowsy

1068
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: and now like, you know, you're not doing ship until

1069
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: you fight, so they're not letting their have you know,

1070
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: like a middle like a fighting march, so she could

1071
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: get money. She could you know, be like the big deal,

1072
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: have her night celebration for doing what she did. It's

1073
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: you're not doing shit. I think this is what it

1074
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: This is what I've been told. It is is what

1075
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: it seems like you until the Ronda Rousey thing, because

1076
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: God forbid, if she loses, then it fox the whole

1077
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: momentum up of the of that rematch. And who whatever

1078
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: have thought? I never and I was curious to see

1079
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: what you think? Who would ever thought that that would

1080
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: be like a boxing And I think, you know, fighting

1081
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: is so crazy right now that who would ever think

1082
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: that I'd be looking forward to two women beating the

1083
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: ship out of each other come July four? Well that's

1084
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: crazy to me. Don't you think that's crazy? Well, unless

1085
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: it's like a family reunion July fourth, thing that just

1086
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: gets drunk in and adecate that I would look forward to.

1087
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: Of course. Um here's what I think. And I try

1088
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: to tell people all the time. You know, people are

1089
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to watch and then they put phil

1090
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: in the blank, like, you know, women do this or

1091
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: women do that. Well, we don't really want to see

1092
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: women in the w n B a per se. And

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01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: we have the NBA and we'll watch that, and we

1094
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: have a version of this that plays at a higher level,

1095
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: and we'll see these guys doing their monster dunks and

1096
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: wall ago, we could never do that, and then we'll

1097
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: watch that. But when you take it's like saying, nobody

1098
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: would ever watch a movie about a fill in the blank. No,

1099
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: we'll watch a good movie about anything. We won't watch

1100
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: a bad movie about our favorite subject. So people like

1101
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: to say, you know, oh, we're such a this society,

1102
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: we're such a that society. You know, no one's going

1103
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: to vote in a black president. No one I ever

1104
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: vote in a female. Now we'll vote in if we

1105
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: like the guy or the girl or the troop chicks

1106
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: can fight or this one's you know, undefeated, the other

1107
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: one's undefeated and they're gonna go at it. We'll watch.

1108
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: So we'll watch anything, but you gotta be good. And

1109
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: that's that's the d that's the caveat. And everyone tries

1110
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: to make all these rules like they're not gonna watch it.

1111
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: They're not gonna watch yet because you're sexist or you're racist,

1112
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: or you whatever. No, we like you, we think you're good.

1113
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: We'll watch it. Yeah, they guess they proved it. I mean,

1114
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna watch that that last n Rosey fight

1115
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm not fucking paying my sixty

1116
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: four dollars to watch break somebody go out in thirteen

1117
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: seconds and the rat look, here's your alley. Their alley is.

1118
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: I saw a whole bunch of people that saw the

1119
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: package out Mayweather fight. I saw a whole bunch of

1120
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: people that saw Ron Rousey fight, and they all like

1121
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: the Rousey fight better. It's way better fight. It's a

1122
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: way better fight. So but what about but I thought

1123
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: you were so sexist or the women should be barefoot

1124
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: and pregnant in the kitchen. It's like, now, if you

1125
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't fight, get in the cage, we'll pay our money.

1126
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: And well, why that was the first time it proved

1127
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: to me that at at like for a pay per

1128
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: view thing. You know, I still I still like, I

1129
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: don't know it's sexist. It just seemed like, I mean,

1130
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: there was a fight the other now, these two girls

1131
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: were beating the fucking shit out of each other, not

1132
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: the rousing, you know, I mean the girl afterwards. And

1133
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: it's the same thing, the same reaction to watching um

1134
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: the guy the other night, the guy from Long Island

1135
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: who had beat silver him getting pummeled in his face

1136
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: and bleeding. But it's a little bit more cruel when

1137
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: I see a girl wideman that was vicious, that was

1138
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: fucking brutal. And there was a girl two women fighting

1139
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: the weekend before and and I mean the girl's face

1140
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: was just maligned and she was like it just was like,

1141
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: what is this ship? What is this? Like? Is this

1142
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: a sport? Like? And I watch it and I'm a fan,

1143
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: but like I still have conflicted watching it of like

1144
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: the brutality of it sometimes and like should there be

1145
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: a standing eight count? Like you can't even see what's

1146
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: going on there, Like just because he's covering his face

1147
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: and he's not dead. You know, what's gonna be the outlet?

1148
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: What's gonna be the punch drunkness of UFC guys in

1149
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: twenty years, Like we still don't know. Well, I think

1150
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be less than football interior lineman

1151
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: and maybe less than ox Is because of the repeated beating.

1152
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: I do have a theory that I'd like to float

1153
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: to you floated on my show before. I've seen enough

1154
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: in the UFC where there's two different kinds of knockouts.

1155
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: There's the guy gets hit, the equilibrium goes, he starts

1156
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: bending at the knee, he starts grabbing the guy around

1157
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: the ankles and trying to pull him down with him.

1158
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: And then we've had the one where the guy literally

1159
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: just takes the front ball kick right to the temple

1160
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: and he's you can see him out. You can see

1161
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 1: the flying knee to the orbital socket, and you see

1162
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: the guys literally goes down like a heap, like he's

1163
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: a rag doll. He's out before he goes down and

1164
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: his head whips and smacks against the thing. Right now,

1165
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: there is no rule in Anderson Silva. Once in a

1166
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: while kick a guy right in the face or back

1167
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: in the day, the guy go down like a heap,

1168
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: and Anderson just turned around and walked back to his corner.

1169
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: But a lot of these guys, while the guys down

1170
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: on a heap, his arms are by side, he's limp,

1171
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: he's lifeless. And now there comes time for the pound

1172
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: dude to do the flying guillotine punch where he just

1173
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: jumps in the air and lands on the guy with

1174
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: us and the guy imagine yourself laying on the ground,

1175
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: completely limp with essentially out of commission, and a guy

1176
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: who does nothing but punch a heavy bag all day

1177
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: and it covered sweat and board shorts. It literally gets

1178
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: a running start and dives with a closed fist to

1179
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: try to essentially displace your jaw. At that point, I

1180
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: have said there should be a review and a fine

1181
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: for that, just like there is in the NFL, which

1182
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: is no one says you can't tackle. No one says

1183
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: you can't tackle hard, nobody says you can't beat the

1184
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: ship out of the next guy. But if the quarterback

1185
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: already has one ft out of back and you go

1186
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: in with a missile leading with the top of your

1187
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: helmet onto his helmet, it's bucks. And then someone will go, well,

1188
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: how do you define it? And I'd be like, oh,

1189
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: well know, yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll see it.

1190
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: Let's see the guy was slowing up. You see the

1191
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: ref is jumping in. The ref is jumping in. You

1192
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: saw first off, you're the guy who landed the knee,

1193
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: so you know it was bone on bright. You felt

1194
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: it connected. You're not us watching at home. You felt

1195
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: you heard the wind coming out of the guy right

1196
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: and you stood in front of him front row seat

1197
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: to see the guy colle you see it, you feel

1198
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: your professional Yes, you saw that guy go down, and

1199
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: you saw him go down in a way where he

1200
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: wasn't getting back up, and you saw out of the

1201
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: corner of your eye you should have seen the refs

1202
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: start to move to dive in. And yet you did

1203
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: a flying overhand whatever punch at the guy's hammer punched

1204
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 1: into his face or while the guy's hands were limp

1205
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: by their side, so you know you can see. I

1206
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: think you I I think there should be some sort

1207
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: of you can need a lot of a lot of

1208
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: people would go, oh, well, listen, so well what happens

1209
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: next time? Then when the guy goes down but he's okay,

1210
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: it comes back and it's like, all right. If you

1211
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: see the guy go down and he seems okay, or

1212
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: he's fighting or he's coming back up or whatever, that's

1213
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: not what I'm talking about talking about. Head slamming against

1214
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: the ground, flush shot down in a heap, ragged off

1215
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: and laying there with your side and they charge him,

1216
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: then find him and then you know, run a rounds.

1217
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: He's lucky because that happened with Holly Holme and she

1218
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: kind of missed those punches like they graze because of

1219
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: her momentum coming down. You're like, you know, if she

1220
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: had hit those two times, it would have been even worse.

1221
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: I just I don't like it that that Wideman fight.

1222
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: And and like you know, and and and he one

1223
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: of the UFC analysts on ESPN. He even criticized it,

1224
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: saying when even if a fighter is not knocked out,

1225
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: if he's covering himself, that's a universal signed to stop

1226
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: the fight, Like how many punches in the face? Clean

1227
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: punches in the face does he have to take for

1228
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: this to be stopped. He's not gonna say stop it? Uh,

1229
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: what's the black guy named herb Dean? Please stop it?

1230
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: Because he's a fighter and he's prideful. But I was

1231
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: just like, and then he comes back out the next round,

1232
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: and you knew he should the should have stopped. Like

1233
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: it's just like how much blood do you need to see?

1234
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: How big does the gas need to be before you

1235
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: stop that ship? And I've never seen a UFC fight

1236
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: stopped on cuts. I've never and I'm not a pron

1237
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: I've had you for an hour in five minutes. Wow,

1238
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: look at us. I appreciate the time. Where's it all gone?

1239
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: It's it's it's all in the uh the little device

1240
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: here and if it's not recording, we'll just do it again. UM.

1241
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm a fan, I'm admirer um. I

1242
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching the Paul Newman doc Winning

1243
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: The Racing Life of Paul Nemon And I you know,

1244
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: I just think that you're a workhorse. All the ship

1245
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: you do, all the ship you've accomplished. And uh, you

1246
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: guys se Rode hard to Yes row hard, both of

1247
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: these films you directed. Yeah, and you're gonna and you're

1248
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna send me an email and tell me how much

1249
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: you loved him. Absolutely, even if I don't love him,

1250
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you that email. But I appreciate the time, Adam.

1251
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the Iron Wrap porp Pockets.

1252
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on your show, and and

1253
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: and and and you know, I don't know. I still

1254
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: don't know whether I'm gonna tear my house down or

1255
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: move or just continue to live in a rat infested,

1256
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: red mold infested pseudo nice house. I haven't figured that

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Speaker 1: pictures with a hammer, all right. And this is the

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Speaker 1: iron wrap porp Pockets, with my special special guest, the

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Speaker 1: podfather of it all, the Marlon Brando, the Don Corleone

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Speaker 1: of the whole fucking thing, Adam Corola.