1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders Camp. Chamfer comes up 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: and just on load getting you ready for Seahawks football. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Every Sunday, Russell has time fires down, got one he 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: isn't touchdown shot powered by Seahawks dot Com. Hello and 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: welcome to the Seahawks Insider podcast as we get you 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: ready for the Seahawks matchup against the forty nine ers. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm Jen Mueller, sideline reporter for your Seattle Seahawks, joined 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: today by John Boyle from Seahawks dot Com. Hi, Jenn, 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: how are you? I am well, and I've already planned 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: out and mapped out every meal that I am going 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: to have through the holiday weekend. That's impressive. It's it's fairly. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: I take it one meal at the time. It's really scary. Actually, well, 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: but I gotta make sure that you've got room for 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: all the courses, all the goodies that I splurged on, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: and pie. Because it's only my husband and I this weekend. 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: We have two pies, one each or do you split them? No, 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: it's one each. You don't see eye to eye on pie, 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: well I don't. I don't understand why you can't have 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: traditional Thanksgiving pie on Thanksgiving, my husband has to be different. Now. 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I know that some people are not going to think 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: that this is, you know, an American because he likes 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: apple pie. I get it. But Thanksgiving is a pumpkin 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: and a pecan pie holiday, and oh apple pie. I 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: am a pecan pie fan. So I will be having pecan, 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: he will be having apple. You know, pecan pie kind 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: of grew emulator in life. I didn't like it when 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I was young, but now I'm all for it. It's perfect. 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: But I think I think apple pie. I mean, apple's 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: a fall through, you know, harvest kind of. I think 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: that works for Thanksgiving. I think you can have apple 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: pie anytime. I think because you could have a lot 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: of pie any point. You know what the benefit of 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: this is if he has his own and I have 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: my own, a you don't have to worry about sharing 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: b The fork never has to leave a pipelink. True. 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: I never have to dirty dishes with a plate. There 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: you go, just being efficient. Well, I'm optimistic that this 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: is going to work out well, and I'm efficient, and 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm also and that's really got okay. But here's what else. 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic about it, and I'm I'm not feeling good 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: about your chances to not listen to me rant today 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: because look, the Seahawks against Atlanta on Monday night football. 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: I know that it was a loss, and I know 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: what's a loss that you really can't afford given the 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: way that the standings are shaking out. I actually felt 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: pretty good coming out of that game. Yeah, I mean, 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things went well. They only punted the 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: ball once, the offense was moving the ball really well. 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: They gave up too many points, but that's not that 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: the defense totally got gashed. It was a lot of 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, the turnovers. That one kick return game, a 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: short field and boom, that's twenty one quick points. Matt 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: Ryan had one hundred and ninety five yards. Granted it 54 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: was a pretty efficient one hundred and ninety five yards, 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: but he didn't light them up. They couldn't run the 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: ball again, that's been a pretty theme now. No one's 57 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: run on the Seahawks. Sin's week three. So yeah, I mean, look, 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: it hurt a lot to lose that game. At six 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: and four year margin, fair is pretty slim going forward. 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I understand people, don't you know, 61 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: the injuries are concerning it's it's scary not having Cam 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Chancellor and Richard Sherman back there, but there's still a 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: ton of talent on this team, and I still think 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: they can play some really good football going forward. When 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: you talk about Matt Ryan and the yards that he 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: was able to put up, he had not thrown for 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: under two hundred yards in a game in sixty four 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: straight games. So what the Seahawks defense did with backup 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: players essentially since you didn't have camra Shrman, it's pretty impressive. 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Why are we hearing so much of the sky is 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: falling from everybody who's looking at this team. I think 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: part of that, you know, kind of a testament to 73 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: how good the players are that aren't playing. I mean, 74 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: this team has never played without Richard Sherman since he 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: took over a role. Cam chancellors one of the best 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: safeties of this generation. And I also just think, you know, 77 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: from a I'm not trying to, like, you know, stick 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: up for the team here unnecessarily, but I think you're 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: always going to have when a team has been good 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: a long time, it's kind of an easy storyline to 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: look for their demise. Not just this team, I've we've 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: seen them with the Patriot. I mean, well, how many 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: times have they talked about the Patriots in their window closing? 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: People talked about whether they should be benching Tom Brady 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: like two years ago that Bill Belichick was asked that. 86 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: So it's a pretty like easy trendy thing to do 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: when a team shows any vulnerability. And I just think 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: it's the NFL is so hard to sustain success even 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, not just season season, but just week to week. 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: So team's gonna have bad games, are gonna lose games 91 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: they should, and all of a sudden we wonder if 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: it's some big sign of everything going wrong. And look, 93 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: maybe I'll be wrong in January, but I just have 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: a hard time believing this is not still going to 95 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: be a very good team in the playoffs come January. 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: And as much as you want to control roll your 97 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: own destiny and winning the game against Atlanta, and had 98 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: you won the game against Washington you would have been 99 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. Having said that, you still have 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: three games against division opponents, and you've got the Rams 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: with a very tough schedule, who have less experience in 102 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: these situations than the Seahawks do. So I actually kind 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: of look at this and think, okay, the Seahawks were 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: getting positive yards on first down. That was something that 105 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: they had really struggled with, particularly in the run game. 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Going into that Monday night game. They were averaging less 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: than one yard to carry when they tried to run 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: on first down. And granted John, when you take a 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: look at the rushing yards, they were not significantly higher, 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: but they had play calls that mimit those yards on 111 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the ground. But where does that running game stand this week? 112 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: It's tough because it's just been so hard this year 113 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: to get one guy going and keep them going. So 114 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: now Mike Davis looked really good in spurts and now 115 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: he's hurt. We'll see what that means. Pete Carroll didn't 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: know yet his status for the week, But uh, you know, 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's good news, but the 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: forty nine ers haven't had the best run defense this 119 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: year their thirty first in the league, So in theory, 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: if there's a team to maybe get right against, it 121 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: could be them. But I don't want to, you know, 122 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: downplay that and then have them come out and play 123 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: their rears off, as Pete might say. But or no, 124 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: Pete likes going to buns. That's been his new phase. 125 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, he played his buns off. He's fled that. 126 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: He said that a couple of times. My mother would 127 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: say it does I don't know your mother. But anyway, 128 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm really off track here, point being, we don't know 129 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: what it's going to look like because A it's been 130 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: pretty inconsistent for the Seahawks, as is with anyone, and 131 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: be we don't know who's going to be in there. 132 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, the one thing I am pretty 133 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: confident is they're going to keep trying because Pete Carroll 134 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: really wants to have that as a part of their 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: offense and it hasn't been there like they want this year. 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: But they're not just going to give up on it completely. 137 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: So kind of cursory glance, what we're expecting to see 138 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: is Eddie Lacy, Thomas Rawles, and Jady McKissick. If by 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: virtue of the fact those might be the only three 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: healthy running backs they have available. Yeah, I mean, unless 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: there's you know, I guess there's still time if there's 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: outside help they see available, But for now, I'd say 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: those are the three guys, and then you hope maybe 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Mike Davis can make a quick recovery, and then he 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: factors in if he is healthy. We know he really 146 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: wants to play. That's the team that drafted him, so 147 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: he would he'd love to get that chance. But yeah, 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: it's it's been a really tough, really two years at 149 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: running back. They just have not had the consistency and 150 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: been able to get one guy going. So how much 151 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: of that, because Pete has said a few different times 152 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: there's just something that's not clicking there with the blocking 153 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: and the running backs. How much responsibility falls on either 154 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: side of that equation? And I guess the third part 155 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: of that could be just overall play calling. So how 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: much of it is running backs, how much of it 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: is offensive line? How much is a play calling? You know, 158 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: I think it's everything, and it's I couldn't give you, 159 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's this percent, this one or the other. 160 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: But it's hard for a running back, even if it's 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: one guy, to get going if the line is changing 162 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: and the blockings a little different every week. And it's 163 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: hard for the running game to get going if you 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: have all these different running backs and the blockings consistent. 165 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: So the fact that there's been a decent amount turnover 166 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: in both those units. These last two years, I just 167 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: think they have not had a week to week where 168 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: you get that chemistry between the two. It just makes 169 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: it tough to get going. I mean we kind of 170 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: take for granted how good they had it for so long, 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: having not just a good running back, but a healthy, 172 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: durable one. So you know what it's going to be 173 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: weekend week out. So if Luke jokel can play against 174 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: the Niners, and even if it's not the Niners, maybe 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: it's the week after changing up the offensive line again, 176 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: does it help or hurt. It might hurt a little 177 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: bit that you know, that one game, but I long 178 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: term it should help. I mean, they were really happily 179 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: with what Luke Joker was giving them before the knee surgery. 180 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: And I say he's probably is good, if not a 181 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: better run blocker than a pass blocker. So you get him, 182 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: and that's not to knock his pass block and he's 183 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: just they really like him as a runblocker. You get 184 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: him on that left side with Dwayne Brown and you 185 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: maybe established a good, you know, solid veteran group on 186 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: that side. And the timing is good because now Odeabushi's 187 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: we know he's out this week with a shoulder injury. 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: We don't know beyond that, and even before that injury, 189 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Tom Cable ad hinted that whenever Luke Jokel comes back, 190 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: Ethan Postic will probably factor in it right guard. So 191 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: now you know, if you get Jokel back, you might 192 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: be able to get Postic in there. If not, it's 193 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Mark Lwinski, a guy who opened the season as a 194 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: starter there. So yeah, I mean it's not it's never 195 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: ideal to have change on the offensive line, but long term, 196 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: get Luke Jokel back will definitely be good for this group, 197 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: especially when you just lost another starting guard, And in 198 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: some ways, perhaps long term, it actually benefits Ethan Postic 199 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: that Jokel had surgery and was out because Postic being 200 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: able to play alongside Dwayne Brown for a few games. 201 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I know that a couple of weeks isn't enough to 202 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: dramatically impact your career for years and years, but you 203 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: do get to see how a guy's done it, who 204 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: has done it at a very high level, and how 205 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: he processes thinks. There's a lot of information that's coming 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: at him and he's been able to kind of learn 207 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: from one of the best in the game on how 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, for sure, just having that guy 209 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: you know in the meeting rooms at practice. It's we 210 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: hear about it all the time, but I think at 211 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: that position group, maybe more than anywhere, just what you 212 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: can learn from because there's just so much about the 213 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: communication and everything that goes into that position group having 214 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: to function as a unit. It's not just individuals doing 215 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: their job. So having a all pro experienced veteran playing 216 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: next to you, that's that's big. It was also big 217 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks to see what happened with Tyler Lockett 218 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: in the return game and lock it overall. He's just 219 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: been such a great story this year, and Pete Carroll 220 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: made sure to give him just a little bit of 221 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: props in his weekly press conference. It's been a challenge 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: for Tyler, and I just find him remarkably suited to 223 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: handle this challenge. It's been hard the whole time. He 224 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: really physically has been a challenge for him. He's worked 225 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: constantly on staying right and in the training room and 226 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: the routines that he's done. Um, that didn't just come 227 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: from the surgery, but it came from his knee that 228 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: got bothered during the summertime and he's just made it 229 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: through it. He's continued to be there on point on 230 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: game day, week after week after week, and finally we 231 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: were reaping the benefits of all of that hard work. 232 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: The guys, the execution of the guys on that kickoff 233 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: return team was beautifully handled in taking to game time, 234 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: and he was able to take advantage of those, you know, 235 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: the consistency that those guys gave him. Really, Markowinsky and 236 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: Jordan rus really had notable efforts in presenting the opportunities there. 237 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: But it has going back to knowing, it's been a 238 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: challenge for him to because he's been a kid that's 239 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: always been healthy and always been full speed and spends 240 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: more time on the practice field before and after practice 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: than anybody. He's not been able to do all of 242 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: that as much as he would like because he's been 243 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: in rehab and he's been doing things other things that 244 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: he's had to do. So I think this is it's 245 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: been a very challenging year for him. I think he's 246 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: handled it remarkably well and he's given us great play. 247 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: He had a fantastic football game receiver two last week, 248 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, and so and he continues to be really consistent. 249 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: So you guys noted about the player of the week 250 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: thing especially, Yeah, great, great recognition. What is it about 251 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett's game that you have grown to appreciate most John, 252 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, and I think this is just what you 253 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: need to be a kick returner in general. But kind 254 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: of that just the fearlessness, the courage of that role, 255 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: and especially when you're a guy built like Tyler Lockett. 256 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: I mean he's a little guy. He's a pretty slight guy. 257 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: And it takes and Pete Carroll talks about this as well, 258 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: that it just takes a certain mentality that hardly anyone has. 259 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: You catch that ball and you just have to take off, 260 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: run in full speed and trust that you're going to 261 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: get that little crease, get that block, and not get 262 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: hit full power by another guy sprinting full speed. And 263 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: that wasn't there all the time this year. And you know, 264 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Walckett talked about this after the game. He was 265 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: pretty honest about that. He was, you know, as he said, 266 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: tiptoeing or dancing a little bit and being hesitant. And look, 267 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: when you're when you're the best athlete on the field 268 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: in high school or maybe even college, you can get 269 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: away with that. You can dance around and run away 270 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: from guys, but there's too many fast, good athletes that 271 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: is a kick returner. More often than on if you 272 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: hesitate at all, you're getting tackled at the fifteen twenty 273 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: yard line. And it was it was noticeably different how 274 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: decisive he was on Sunday or on Monday night. Just 275 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: hitting at full speed and that can make all the 276 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: difference in the world for a returner. I thought it 277 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: was interesting listening to him after the game because it 278 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: isn't it is trusting, but he noted that it's easier 279 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: for him to do that than it is for the 280 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: guy who's running full speed at him, because at some 281 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: point they have to stop their momentum, break down and 282 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: get ready for the tackle. And so he still holds 283 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: that advantage. But it was just remembering that that's how 284 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: that part of the game goes. Yeah, and you know 285 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: it's he's not going to use the injuries an excuse, 286 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: but there's got to be a little part. He's a 287 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: guy who's been healthy and you know he has it. 288 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: In college pros, everybody gets beat up, but he's never 289 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: had that significant injury, so you kind of wonder if 290 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: maybe it took him a little time to just get 291 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: that confidence back of I can get hit hard, i 292 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: can take it, and I'm going to bounce back up 293 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: and be fine where you know, it definitely didn't look 294 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the same for a lot of this season as it 295 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: hasn't have passed. And on Monday night he looked like 296 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: the guy who's been an All Pro Pro Bowl return man, 297 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: and he said that it was Luke Wilson who challenged 298 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: the special teams unit and said, look, when I first 299 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: got here, we had great returns. You know, we were 300 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: breaking and the Seahawks have not scored on special teams 301 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: in a return since twenty fifteen. They are very aware 302 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: of this. I've talked to a number of them about 303 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: it over the last few weeks. They know it's only 304 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: a matter of time before they break one. But you know, 305 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Luke Wilson really saying, look, we gotta stay off in 306 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: our blocks. We've got to play smart. That that hustle 307 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: board that they have that tracks special teams plays all 308 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: but three stickers. Yeah, and there one of the best 309 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: games of the year there and they've had you mentioned 310 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: that board and some people know what we're talking about. 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: It just measures all these different things, you know, whether 312 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: it's not committing penalties or you know, setting up a score, 313 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: not giving up play, just all these different measures of success. 314 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: There's twelve of them. It's pretty consistently been in the 315 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, six seven ranges here in years when they're 316 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: really going, it's almost a full board every time. So 317 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: to see it at nine this week is a lot 318 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: more kind of telling of what they want to be 319 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: on special teams and what they can be and what 320 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: they have been when they're at their best. Here's the 321 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: tricky part about special teams, though, is that there's a 322 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a trickle down effect. So Nico Thorpe 323 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: has been an incredible special teamer, but he had to 324 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: go in and play defense with the injury to Shack 325 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Griffin and just kind of how thin they are in 326 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: the secondary, and you wonder, now, I know that Nico 327 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: was a starter at one point in time, and when 328 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: I talked to him this week, he said, Man, I 329 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: would love to just get the chance to be schemed 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: up because of my size and to go in and 331 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: actually play defense. But as it stands, I'm just the 332 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: guy that gets to go in. And we saw him 333 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: in the dying package against Atlanta man the heck of 334 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: a plane of a play, right, Yeah, that ball is 335 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: pretty much caught and he just ripped it out. But anyway, 336 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: you gotta make sure that he's not taking away from 337 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: what he gives you on special teams, which is why 338 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks made a move this week that confused some 339 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: made sense to others. Breakdowns on what we're looking at, 340 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: the trickle down effects of special teams and how this 341 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: impacts the defense and to move the teammate. Yeah, and 342 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: I talked to Pete Carroll about that. Well, I talked 343 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: to him. I asked him about that last week. And 344 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: it's when people look at the injuries on defense. You 345 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: see Cam Chancer, Richard Sherman, those kind of guys going down, 346 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: and the immediate thing is what's it mean to the defense. 347 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: But as you said, there's a trickle down. Bradley McDougald 348 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: or half a season, was maybe their best special teams player. 349 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: Nico Thorpe is probably the top guy, but he was 350 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: hurt early in the year. You know, you talk about 351 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: overall production for eight nine weeks, mcdougold was right up there. 352 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: He can't play seventy eighty percent of the special team 353 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: snaps when he's on the field. For every defensive player, 354 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: it's just not safe for him to be out there 355 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: that much, so you'll lose you know, he does some 356 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: special teams, but you'll lose him some. And it's that 357 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: a lot of times is where you really see injuries 358 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: catch up to teams. It's not necessarily as notable is 359 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: when a guy's and not on the field and defense, 360 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: but you see this across the league as teams get 361 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: beat up late in the year, it's kind of all 362 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden, maybe they're giving up a few more 363 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: big returns or getting a kick blocked or whatever, and 364 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: it's just it's really hard depthwise when you only have 365 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: forty six guys on game day and you just you 366 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: don't have everybody available to you. And I think it's 367 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: important to note that field position was such a big 368 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: thing against Atlanta. Tyler Lockett had almost two hundred return 369 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: yards in the game. It put the offense in great position, 370 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: which is why when you make a roster move like 371 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks did in waving Dwight Freeney and signing David 372 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: Moore from the practice squad, it's hard to compare. You're 373 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: trying to compare apples to apples, but you can't accept 374 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: it's just as important. Yeah, And I mean this was 375 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting move overall because I don't think 376 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: it's even necessarily Dwight Freeney for David Moore. Pete Carroll 377 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: mentioned that they were going to lose Dwight Moore or 378 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: David Moore to another team. So if you want to 379 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: keep him around, you make that move today. And I 380 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't be stunned if maybe, if they have depth concerns 381 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: somewhere else, we could see another move this week. And 382 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: maybe that's really more what the roster spot they freed 383 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: up was four. But yeah, I mean that's a lot 384 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: of times you see, you know, maybe a team will 385 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: cut a running back and sign a linebacker, it's because 386 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: they need that special team's help. And David Moore is 387 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: a guy who's a big, sturdy receiver. He's you know, 388 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: six two two twenty. He's a guy that definitely, I mean, 389 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: part of what he did on special teams in the 390 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: preseason was turn kicks and he's not doing that right 391 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: now because Tyler Lockett's looking great at but he's a 392 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: guy that theoretically could help you and do some things 393 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: on special teams that look, you're just not going to 394 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: ask a thirty seven year old likely Hall of Fame 395 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: defensive end to go down cover kickoff. It's probably not 396 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the best thing for him or the team. Yeah. Yeah, 397 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: And you mentioned just kind of the depth concerns. I 398 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: think right now they are just trying to keep a 399 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: few options open as they play this wait and see 400 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: game as to who will be available on Sunday and 401 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: where they might need to have an extra body app 402 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: And as much as they loved what Freeney gave him 403 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll said, you know, they hate to have 404 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: to do that. They had eleven defensive linemen on the roster, 405 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: which it was a law. It's a luxury that you 406 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: can have when everybody's healthy, but you don't always have 407 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: that luxury when guys start getting beat up and you're 408 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you're having healthy scratches on game day 409 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: at one position and you're thin somewhere else, that's sometimes 410 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: where the roster move has to happen. So let's take 411 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: a look at what this means for the matchup against 412 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: the Niners. For the last couple of minutes here. You 413 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: mentioned the rookie quarterback for San Francisco, and you mentioned 414 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity for the Seahawks running game to get right. 415 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: How much different do you think this game is gonna 416 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: look compared to Week two of the season. You know, 417 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see the Seahawks defense look 418 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot better, or sorry, their offense look a lot better. 419 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, Seats defense played really well then, and I 420 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: expect we'll see them play really well again. One thing 421 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: I would very much expect to see change defensively is 422 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: the run defense. That was one of the last they 423 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: had two basically two bad games a run defense this year. 424 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: Week two against San Francisco Week three against Tennessee gave 425 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: up one hundred plus yards back to back games. Some 426 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: big plays really contributed that. Since then, the Seahawks have 427 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: pretty much shut down every opposing and running back they've faced. 428 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: They're allowing three point two yards to carry since that 429 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: Tennessee game, which is, you know, top three in the league, 430 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: their top two in the league eighty yards per game rushing. 431 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: So I really think they've kind of cleaned up some 432 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: of the issues that led to those big plays. And 433 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: then I think just offensively. The Sehawks have come a 434 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: long way since then. They're still struggling to run the ball, 435 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: but we've seen them move the ball really well. Russell 436 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: Wilson's doing so many good things, so I would expect 437 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot better offensive performance than the twelve points we saw. 438 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: Is Russell doing too much? Are you worried about him 439 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: doing too much? No? I mean, in a perfect world, 440 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: he's not eighty whatever percent of your offense because you're 441 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: running the ball better. But he's probably you can make 442 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: an argument he's safer running the ball than standing in 443 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: the pocket because he's running around, he sees guys coming. 444 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: He's really really good at getting down, getting out of bounds. 445 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: We rarely see him get hit running around when quarterbacks 446 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: are early vulnerable. Is standing there throwing the ball. So look, 447 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: if he's dropping back sixty times a game, that would 448 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: concern me more than throwing at thirty and running eight 449 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: to ten times. So you know, it's concerning only in 450 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: that it reflects It shows where they're deficient in the 451 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: running game. But I don't think it concerns mean that 452 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: they're asking too much of him. I mean, look, quarterbacks 453 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: are a big part of every team's offense. That's why 454 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: they make a lot of money. That's why they're considered 455 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: the most important position on the field. So no, it 456 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: doesn't worry me too much. It's funny because I just 457 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: have these flashbacks of Matt Hasselbeck when he played here, 458 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: and I just saw him on Monday night. I remember 459 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: them bringing a slipping slide out to training camp to 460 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: try to get him to slide more gracefully, because God 461 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: love it. It was just like, oh my gosh, you cringe. 462 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: You don't cringe. Russell's got how to take care of 463 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: him off. Yeah, he's going to get hit occasionally him anyway, 464 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: he's pretty safe back there. And he said, really, the 465 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: key to evolving is making sure that you're looking at 466 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: the next play, which is what he's doing, which is 467 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: what they're looking at in the run game to continue 468 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: to improve. And it's what the Seahawks are looking at 469 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: Sunday against the forty nine ers, is they look to 470 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: get back on track and control what they can control 471 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: on their schedule and in their division. We'll see how 472 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: they come out in that matchup next week when we 473 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: are back to break it down on another edition the 474 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Seahawks Insider Podcast.