WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Too Aggressive?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Tuesday, December first, two, Thy twenty, season sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number seventy two. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break, present by Geico. We appreciate you guys joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got forty five minutes here to talk some Cowboys football.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of different topics we're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to hit today. Um and it's some point, at some

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<v Speaker 1>point we'll try to get to some questions from you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we can hit some questions towards the third segment

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. So if you want to hit up

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<v Speaker 1>Amber on Twitter, you can get those questions. And she

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<v Speaker 1>already has some questions, but I'm sure she'll take some

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<v Speaker 1>more if you have a really good one. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Let's let's get started. Yesterday we find out

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys game that was supposed to originally be played

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<v Speaker 1>this Thursday against the Baltimore Ravens was moved again. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been moved to Monday of next week. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>been moved to Tuesday. My question for our panel is

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<v Speaker 1>how does this affect this team? Now getting a really

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<v Speaker 1>long break between the last game and the game with

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens and then having another short week very very

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<v Speaker 1>much like what you would typically have for a Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>game heading then into the game with Cincinnati. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Nick, Well, I don't know everything that's that

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's going and that's involved in these decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll invade the NFL for having to do all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I you know it'll it'll affect Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>probably more on the back end. I wish, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>we could understand why they move the game from Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>to Wednesday. Um, I only can think of one reason,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if that's a good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reason to do it. So I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, this is a team that lost their

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<v Speaker 1>strength coach in the middle of a Thursday, Thanksgiving weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're having to deal with a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does it affect them. I mean, they'll they

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit more time to face a Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>team who you have no idea who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there. So I guess that's good, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you how can you really help with this

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<v Speaker 1>extra time other than just use it as rest amber

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<v Speaker 1>It just sucks when I mean, obviously no one wants

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of situation to happen, but I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it must suck when when your schedule is just

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<v Speaker 1>thrown off. The fact that you have a weekly schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>a weekly structure that you go by. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>week your practice, you know this week you look at

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<v Speaker 1>film and all that, this day and all that. So

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<v Speaker 1>it it sucks in that way because you can really

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<v Speaker 1>fully utilize this time because you don't really know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Baltimore. It's not like, oh, you can

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<v Speaker 1>fully prepare for them. So in my head, I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe they use this week and divide it into

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<v Speaker 1>sometime spending it for the preparation for the next opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because the next week it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>short week for the Cowboys, so they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>balance out that kind of preparation and hopefully because of

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in Baltimore and the uncertainty there, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>use that time to look at the next opponent in

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<v Speaker 1>there and prepare for the following week. Dave, it's a really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great point. A g Just yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so much you can do with this extra time,

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<v Speaker 1>and teams advance scout anyway, so I would bet they

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<v Speaker 1>will spend some time on Cincinnati as a result of that.

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<v Speaker 1>My thing is, I just and I'm with Nick, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't envy the people that have to decide this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm I'm just kind of at a loss for

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<v Speaker 1>why the NFL seems so reluctant to extend the season,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean at a week eighteen, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can build that into the playoffs and still get what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do done. It just seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>links that they're going to play it on schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I mean, it's it's it's kind of ridiculous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all of these late changes, asking teams to

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<v Speaker 1>play games on four and five days rest. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's bizarre, and I don't understand what the harm

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<v Speaker 1>would be in just adding a week to the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but the league seems bound and determined not to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe maybe we're not going to see an outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>on scale with what we're seeing in Baltimore right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But like this, I just I have a feeling this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to keep happening. I mean, it's December now,

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<v Speaker 1>It's we're in the middle of the flu season. COVID

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<v Speaker 1>cases are going getting worse and worse. Like I would

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine this next month is going to be really dicey.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't envy the league for having to figure

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<v Speaker 1>all this out, but I'm not convinced they're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>great job. Yeah, it seems a little strange to me,

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<v Speaker 1>just that there are there are some teams that are

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<v Speaker 1>being forced to just deal with their circumstances. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at Denver last weekend where they were essentially they were

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<v Speaker 1>told basically played the game without a quarterback and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they had to do. And there seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>this this decision from the standpoint of the Ravens, that

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<v Speaker 1>they keep making allowances for them with their COVID cases

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<v Speaker 1>rather than just saying everybody they can't play, just can't play.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure it out and put a team on the field. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more to it, and there's probably some

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<v Speaker 1>things that are being discussed that are far beyond what

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<v Speaker 1>we know, but it just seems like everything keeps getting

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<v Speaker 1>pushed back for the Ravens and we'll see how much

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<v Speaker 1>that affects the Steelers in their game coming up this Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been moved around quite a bit for them, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers have to be a little frustrated because they've

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<v Speaker 1>this is the second time this year when they faced

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of situation where the other team had issues

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<v Speaker 1>and because of that, it was games had to be

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<v Speaker 1>moved and adjusted on the Steeler schedule. But all things considered,

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<v Speaker 1>we all knew going into this season there'd be lots

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<v Speaker 1>of changes and they just have to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think somebody would probably offer the rebuttal and say

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<v Speaker 1>deadverse situation didn't involve an ongoing spread, at least not

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<v Speaker 1>that we knew about. You know, they had their high

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<v Speaker 1>risk contacts, they didn't have any positive tests, whereas I

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<v Speaker 1>think Baltimore had nine straight days of positive tests, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to say they don't even know if they've contained it,

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<v Speaker 1>so they don't feel comfortable having guys travel or play.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I get that, but I do agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like there's a lot of consistency. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this all happened with Tennessee back in October. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very similar, and it is interesting. You know what constitutes

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<v Speaker 1>getting the league to make all these accommodations verse saying oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna have to deal with it. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem very consistent, and I would guess we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a few more situations like this before

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season is over, and God help us if

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<v Speaker 1>it happens in the playoffs. Yeah. I just wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>at some point the league is forced to make teams,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if they find proof that the teams weren't following

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<v Speaker 1>the protocols as they should, if they will force teams

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<v Speaker 1>to forfeit games, that'll be interesting to see. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been willing to do that to this point, but that

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely be interesting if they go that far with

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. Let's change the subject. Let's flick a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more into internally at the Cowboys. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>first with the offensive line. We didn't get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk extensively about them. Yesterday, but obviously they lost

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<v Speaker 1>both their tackles, both their second string tackles in the

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Washington football team, and they were left

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<v Speaker 1>with Brandon Knight and Terrence Steele. Again, my question for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys is is there another option that they have

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<v Speaker 1>at this point at the tackle position or are they

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<v Speaker 1>forced Not that they haven't been willing to do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, but are they forced at this point

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<v Speaker 1>to just roll with Brian. I'm sorry with Brandon Knight

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<v Speaker 1>and Terrence Steele. Let's start first with you Amber, not

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<v Speaker 1>that I know of. I mean, these are the guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the worst part. I mean, obviously it

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<v Speaker 1>sucks seeing sick Martin going down and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, oh my god, here comes still back again.

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<v Speaker 1>Just when we got him out of the feel he

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<v Speaker 1>comes back. And I feel terrible for saying that. I

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<v Speaker 1>apologize because I know he's trying the best that he

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<v Speaker 1>can do. But it just sucks. It sucks all these injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks that you cannot find any kind of consistency

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<v Speaker 1>there and as of right now, I mean, maybe Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick have a better answer here, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>No name comes to mind right now, someone who would

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<v Speaker 1>be better at the tackle position at this moment, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are other names on the roster. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Eric Smith, who they claimed off of waivers back

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<v Speaker 1>in September. You got Greg Snott who they poached from

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland's practice squad. And then Jordan Mills, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>veteran guy that we've talked about before. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>started a few seasons for Buffalo in Chicago. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, I did, Like you know, I get we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing we're doing our due diligence, but are we talking

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<v Speaker 1>about improvements? I tend to doubt it. So maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>want to trot one of those guys out, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess not based on how firm they've been about

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Steele all season. I would be surprised to see

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<v Speaker 1>that at this point. Nick, Yeah, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that they have any intention of doing that. For

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, they want to see this through with Steele.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know how many times I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he's he's struggled for sure, and he struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with giving up sacks, penalties, whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Knight, you I think I was telling you this

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<v Speaker 1>other day, Derek. You know Brandon knyat uh it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have one penalty against him this year. I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by that. Um, uh, the steel leads the offense and penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>don't lead the team. I think we know who leads

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<v Speaker 1>the team and penalties, but he's the leads of the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got six and uh, you know, I just it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird for Brandon Knight, first time starter. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't played a whole lot, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that you know, he's he's been a

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<v Speaker 1>good option for them. But but yeah, I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>any other option of the other than Steele and Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, would you guys consider and I know the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, I know I feel pretty certain that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are not going to do this. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>guys consider the possibility that when Tyler Beatis is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you put him in at center, you put

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<v Speaker 1>Luni in at guard, and maybe you get a look

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<v Speaker 1>at at Connor Williams at tackle. I would because I

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<v Speaker 1>think I look at next year and I don't and

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<v Speaker 1>I think Connor McGovern is probably going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>better guard than Connor Williams. So when I think about

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<v Speaker 1>all that for next year, where does Connor Williams go,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would look a look at him as a

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<v Speaker 1>being a swing tackle there, So yeah, I would do it. Dave, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like that idea. And if if

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Beatis comes back, I'm you know, Joe Looney is

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<v Speaker 1>going to play center till he's healthy, but I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to think if he can come back this season that

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<v Speaker 1>they would want to get him some reps and keep

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting him experience and having him playing games.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's certainly an intriguing option to try at different

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<v Speaker 1>best five. Yeah, I don't know if you do it

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<v Speaker 1>right now while while Tyler's hurt, but I would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>try to give that a try. If Tyler can come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they will, but I would. Yeah, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interested for sure. Amber absolutely. I mean, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this for quite a while now, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>see Connor a tackle and giving him a try it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious to know to really know what the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff think is and how do they feel, because

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<v Speaker 1>clearly we have not been on the same page as them.

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<v Speaker 1>We see things differently than they do. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>be really curious to see or no, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>their thoughts on that and if that's a move that

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<v Speaker 1>they would want to make at some point, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not this specific season, but at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>the near future. You know. The interesting part about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Amber is that we have been on a different page

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<v Speaker 1>from them, but it seems like at some point throughout

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<v Speaker 1>this year they always come around to our line of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking happening. We saw it happen with Walley, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>it happened with Poe, we saw it happened lately with

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<v Speaker 1>still on the bench. So eventually they come around and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like we're thinking, so we must be onto something.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take our first break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about this coaching staff, particularly about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the decision making that's been happening. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of criticism for Mike McCarthy, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you guys about that decision making and also

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking a show where we're gonna talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different topics. We're gonna talk about this coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff next, and we're gonna start with Mike McCarthy. There

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<v Speaker 1>have been a number of times this decision this season

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<v Speaker 1>when he's made some decisions that have raised eyebrows, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering for myself, I'm wondering if a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that is because we've just been so used to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett style of coaching, which I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 1>would characterize as aggressive, and then flipping to another extreme

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<v Speaker 1>where Mike McCarthy seems to be extremely aggressive. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, guys, are you concerned about the decision making

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<v Speaker 1>of coach McCarthy. Let's start first with you, Nick. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Nothing He's done so far, um has shown

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<v Speaker 1>what the things that they hired him for. And and

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<v Speaker 1>when I say shown, I'm talking about what we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>now behind closed doors maybe maybe it's better, but but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you you you've got a three and eight

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<v Speaker 1>football team. Obviously there's been a lot of injuries, but

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<v Speaker 1>but there, you know, you have a veteran staff. You're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be able to figure out how to get

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<v Speaker 1>guys in place and try to, you know, help with

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<v Speaker 1>your depth a little bit. And maybe maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>been too many injuries. Then then one team can can take.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, from the decision making that he's done

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<v Speaker 1>within the game, the game management, it hasn't worked. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work even in the first game of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, he got lucky obviously with the second game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the with the on side kick, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that was a questionable decision as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But but nothing that he's done so far you can

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<v Speaker 1>really say and go, wow, you know, that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>really good. The only thing that's got going for him

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<v Speaker 1>it is the pedigree in the history of that he

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<v Speaker 1>has a Super Bowl Trophy. And Nick, I'm gonna challenge

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit here because everybody on this show

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody who's listening out there knows that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>fleeflicker guy like you like do it every game. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see them do a fleef flicker every single game.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me the difference. You're aggressive in that aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're concerned about his aggressiveness. Tell me that the difference, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>his aggressiveness. I was really talking more about the fake punts.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but his aggressiveness. Um, here's the difference. This

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<v Speaker 1>team isn't good enough to be as aggressive as he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be. He wants to to to put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the players. Well, the players aren't good enough right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This team isn't good enough. So he's taking chances like

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<v Speaker 1>he did and Thursday in the game when he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to and and and that's not a calculated risk.

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<v Speaker 1>So to try to throw the ball to a punter

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<v Speaker 1>so that I feel like the flee flicker thing is

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<v Speaker 1>I want those safeties thinking that Zeke might pitch it back.

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<v Speaker 1>He might because they do it once again. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the play? No, it isn't. So go up there and

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<v Speaker 1>make the tackle. But you were a little bit late

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<v Speaker 1>and there was an eight yard run. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that way. But I don't know the advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>always thinking, well, this might be a punt, this might

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<v Speaker 1>be a fake. So I mean that I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>way too many fakes when you're talking about fake punts.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think he's he's too aggressive for a

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<v Speaker 1>team that's not good enough to handle it. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>the point is you're saying you don't think that that

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<v Speaker 1>a flea flickers aggressive. That's just that should be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of your offense, just to make safeties have to

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<v Speaker 1>account for the fact that this could be a run,

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<v Speaker 1>this could be a pass. And the problem though is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, all right, Dave, what do you think? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>But but but Nick no Um, what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say is is it stems back to when you can't

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<v Speaker 1>run the football on that On that after Jalen's interception

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<v Speaker 1>first and goal at the four, they get stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>a two yard loss. Okay, they tried to run it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they tried this fake reverse pass to maybe Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton or whatever. But because they know that you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to worry about the run, they can

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<v Speaker 1>look for all that kind of stuff. So and when

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<v Speaker 1>the special team's coach runs a fake, I mean every

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<v Speaker 1>other game, they're looking for that kind of stuff, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll give up just a you know, a non return

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<v Speaker 1>and you fair catch it and it's a forty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard punt no return. That's fine because they're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a fake punt. That's a little different than a safety

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<v Speaker 1>that's always looking for a flea flicker. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Dave, are you concerned about coach McCarthy's aggresiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>I really I don't have too much of a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with what Mike McCarthy has done during games this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we covered it. The fake punt the other day

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen that

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<v Speaker 1>that is, that's a different category. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But even you go back over the course of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>the fake punt return, you know, the lateral back to

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<v Speaker 1>c J. Goodwin against Pittsburgh, big part of why they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to keep that game close. Great play. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they did a fake against Atlanta where CJ just

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<v Speaker 1>dropped the ball like again, probably would have worked. Like

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<v Speaker 1>these are all decisions where you're like, uh, it could

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<v Speaker 1>have worked, but it didn't, and that's football. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing going forward on fourth down against LA all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back in Week one. Love it, I love

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<v Speaker 1>that call, just didn't work. It has also worked a

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<v Speaker 1>few times. They went forward on fourth down twice against Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>got them both big part of why they won that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love the in game stuff. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably dial back the special team's craziness a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm even okay with that. My problem with Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy is really Monday to Saturday decision making to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of funny because I loved what Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett used to do Monday to Saturday, and I hated

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<v Speaker 1>what he did on Sunday. I'm kind of the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike. Can't have it all, Dave, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>it all. I mean, like the stuff that others me

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<v Speaker 1>about Mike McCarthy is, why did it take your defense

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<v Speaker 1>seven weeks to look like an NFL defense? Like? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did it look like JV And we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Dontari Poe and Everson Griffin and Darryl Worley all we want.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I buy that that's the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>giving up seventy yard rushing touchdowns and not like that

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<v Speaker 1>that's just unacceptable at the NFL level of football. How

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that everybody in the world was like

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<v Speaker 1>anyone but Terrence Steele and Mike McCarthy was like, that's

0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fantasy football nonsense. And then like three weeks later he

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<v Speaker 1>tries Zach Martin and it works. Like it's stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that that gives me pause. Where like you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just said in the first segment, Derek, like

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<v Speaker 1>us four dummies shouldn't be able to sit here and

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<v Speaker 1>have better ideas than the coaching staff does. But it

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<v Speaker 1>has felt like that at times this season. But as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like the aggressiveness on game day, I leaned

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<v Speaker 1>toward liking it for the most part. Like I'll I'll

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<v Speaker 1>live and die on that hill. You know, even even

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna win all those decisions, but I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>it if you're aggressively trying to win games. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>as a fun aside, David, if you had to choose

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<v Speaker 1>between the coach that's great on Monday through Saturday or

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<v Speaker 1>the coach just says great on game day, which one

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<v Speaker 1>are you're taking? Yeah? I mean, look, we're one year

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<v Speaker 1>into this thing with Mike and everything that can go

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<v Speaker 1>wrong has gone wrong. So I'm not saying Mike McCarthy's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win the Super Bowl for this team, but like, i'll, i'll,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with trying this out and seeing where it

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<v Speaker 1>goes as opposed to just going back to what didn't

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>work for a decade. All right, So Amber, are you

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with Mike McCarthy's decision making? I am. I have

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>very mixed emotions about this whole situation. Obviously, we were

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>wanting to see a change. We were wanting someone new

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and hear, someone with a new voice, someone who could

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<v Speaker 1>be more fun out on the field, who could have

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<v Speaker 1>more fun when he comes to play calling and have

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of aggressiveness that we were lacking from Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett as far as playing conservative football. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, even though I have liked certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>he's done, there has been a lot of questionable decisions

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the season. And the thing with me, how I

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<v Speaker 1>see it is you need to have self awareness. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to know what your team is doing, know what

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you look like. No that, Okay, we're not really accomplishing

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<v Speaker 1>this and unable to make this place happen. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>as for right now, just for right now, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of take it back a little bit, play and more conservative,

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<v Speaker 1>more conservative. I can't even say the word, but you

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<v Speaker 1>get my point, Just not be as aggressive, just so

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that you can start completing place and being more effective

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>on the field. And it's hard to say because I

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>do like it, because when you're aggressive, it makes football

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>more fun. But at the same time, it sucks when

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you're losing games. It sucks when you see a fun play,

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you put it out on the field, but it wasn't effective.

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So therefore next week you're not scaring anybody because the

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>opponent knows you can't make it happen. So it's just

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's just having a little more self awareness.

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And again, like these other guys said, we don't know

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 1>what happens behind closed doors. We don't know how he

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 1>is in team meetings and any or any of that,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.719
<v Speaker 1>but we do know what we see on the field

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and what we see from players. And the reality is

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that it took a really long time for it to

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>start translating to these players. And the fact that the

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>whole first season, first half of the season, we were

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:45.439
<v Speaker 1>seeing that lack of emotion, that lack of what's the

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>word I'm looking for, the just being competitive, We weren't

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>seeing that were this team had no soul throughout the

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 1>first half of the season, so that that's that's a

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>problem because you need your leader to be able to

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>have a voice and translate at the same time. And

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you cannot tell me that this is just oh lack

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of talent of players and blah blah blah, because at

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the same time you got a lot of guys. How

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>many players are there on a football team. There is

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>no possible way that everyone just simply sucks on the field. No,

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it has to come from the person who's trying to

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>inspire you. So I'm sorry, but as of right now,

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just not quite working out. Now, I think that

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I think those are valid points. I'm personally not willing

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to completely crucify Mike McCarthy yet, as Dave mentioned, there's

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>been pretty much everything that could go wrong has gone wrong,

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that stuff is well beyond his control.

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I would have expected with an experienced coach like this

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that he could have made up that difference and they

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been as bad as they've been, particularly on

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>defense throughout the year, even with all the challenges that

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>they've had. But I'm not willing to completely crucify him

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>on that. I think we give him a little bit

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of a mulligan because this was such a weird year

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and I want to see what happens in the future.

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>What I do know, or at least what I think

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I know at this point, is he's not a coach

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that necessarily knows how to coach his team through adversity well,

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's something that we did always say about Jason Garrett.

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>In adverse situations, it seemed like he had an ability

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to get his team to play above their heads. And

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the problem that we had with Coach Garrett was when

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>then they were in the front, they seemed to play

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>down sometimes. So, however, you want to ment that, I'm

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>not willing to completely crucify him yet. I think we

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>got to still figure out over the next couple of

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>years really what we think of this coach and what

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he's able to do here. Let's move up to the

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>special teams though, I want to talk about John Fossil

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these decisions that have been made

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>have revolved around the special teams. My first question for

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys is do you think he has the latitude

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to be able to just make decisions on what he

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to do on special teams without the head coach's

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>input because we I know, we saw Nick I don't know.

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it was you that sent the clip of

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>his last game with the Rams, and it was a

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>play where they did they ran a fake on a

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>special teams on a punt and the head coach, you

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>could tell he was seemed very aggravated, as though he

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what was really going on, and the special

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>teams coordinator just decided that's what he was gonna do.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>And it made me think Number one, was that the

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>reason that maybe the Rams moved on from Fossil? And

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>number two, does he have the same kind of latitude

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>here where he's making decisions and they don't necessarily match

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>up with what's going on in the game. Let's start

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>first with you, Dave. I mean, I think there's there's

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>no way to know the mechanism of that, like publicly basically,

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>like that's I mean, that's the essence of coaches. You're like,

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you're going to protect that that process, and if it

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>does come out, it probably means you're heading for like

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>a mess divorce. Like those starts of details start to

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>come out when you're looking for justification for firing a

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>guy or moving on or whatever. So I don't know

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>if he's got that latitude. It wouldn't surprise me based

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>on his expertise and the amount of times they do it.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>But again, that's what I feel for a head coach

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in a situation like that. Maybe McCarthy thought that that

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>was a great call, maybe he actually hated it, but

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>he's got to go defend it because you're opening a

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>can of worms. If you don't like it. It ain't

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>worth it to throw your special teams coordinator under the

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>bus like that, unless you're trying to move on from him.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say, just with John Fossil, and it came

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>into crystal clarity after this fiasco on Thursday, is it's

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>great to be aggressive, but if you're so aggressive that

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>teams change the way they play you because of your reputation,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not great. Like I don't know if that's great

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>for everybody to be like, well, we got John Fossil

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>on the schedule, we better be on our p's and q's,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Like Like how we don't talk about that with like

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of teams, But I remember last year

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>when they played the Rams in December, we talked about

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that leading up to the game. We were like, you

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta be careful with Fossil, Hecker and Zerline like they're

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna do something wild. I don't know if that's great

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>when people know that right off the bat, Nick, what

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts? What was the question again? I'm sorry,

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>what are you asking? Specific? The question is do you

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>think Fossil has the latitude to be able to make

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>these calls in all? And if so, do you think

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the right decision? No, to give him that lattices. No.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I think he does have that latitude. I

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>think he's always I think I don't think he sleeps

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>at nine. I think he thinks about fake double punt

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>reverses and stuff like that, and I think he comes

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>in the next morning about four am and about dreaming

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 1>about them. He might. He might he bust into McCarthy's

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>office and be like, what do you think about this?

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>You know? And I think the whole game he's probably

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to use you his ear, trying to convince him

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to do that. That's what I really believe. I don't

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>think like he he makes the call, but I think

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about it throughout the game and trying to

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>do that. Um, you know, and I think it's just

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>too much. I mean, like I said, If If and I,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>we've been told this punt returners, you know, like like

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you you have a different plan when you're playing against

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>him because and what are you giving up? Okay, so

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to return it this game this time.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Just tell CD faircatch it because we're not going to

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>return this because we want to play the gunners a

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit differently. That's that's all you're giving up. Really,

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and just make sure you don't give up fake punts

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>because you're always watching for it. So yeah, I do

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>think that I think he has probably a little bit

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>more leeway than than he should because I mean they've

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>run two in one game before, they've run three this year.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't worked. I mean I think he's run four

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>trick plays maybe, um nah, you can you can say

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>they probably run seven trick plays this year and they've

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>gotten two of them. It was an on site kick

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>counts a trick play, which too, they got the watermelon

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>kick and then they got the Steelers and return throwback.

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>The three fake ponts, they haven't gotten the drop kick

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>against Philadelphia. I mean that almost worked, but it didn't.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean that almost worked, and that's all

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I can really think of Cleveland. They tried a couple

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of weird looking plays there, so um, you know, he

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>did one where and they like snapped it to darry

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and Thompson too, didn't they? That was that was the

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>It's basically yeah, it's basically been a weekly thing. Yeah,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's yeah. I wish there would have been a

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>camera on McCarthy's face so we would have seen a

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>reaction and how he really felt about that decision. But

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel bad for Fossil. I mean, I

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>think he has great intentions and I think he really

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>works hard. He really wants his whole Special Team's group

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to be able to make game changing plays. But the

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>thing is, again I go back to the whole self

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>awareness thing, like you need to know when you need

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to take a step back, And to me, I see him,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to call him like a nerd or anything,

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but I see him as a nerdy guy who's like

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>really invested on his playbook and just out there just

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with creative plays and everything. But

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.719
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, you gotta make it happen on

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the field and I think he can get better at

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this next year. I expect special teams to be better

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>than what we've seen so far with more time to

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>prepare and all that. But that's that's an easy fix.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to a play call, I mean,

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you make the decision and you just you just gotta

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 1>be more aware of what's going on on the field

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and more aware of your players and knowing that. Okay,

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I love the guys, and I think they can get there,

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think they can make it happen, but I

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>gotta be real and understand that this is maybe not

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the year where we tried those kinds of things. Unless

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you you're not trying to win the game and you

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>want to risk it, then that's fine. Be playful and

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>go for it. Let's also point out on that that

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>play with Fossil against them, it was against the Cardinals

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>last year with the Rams. That was his last game

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>with the Rams. It was the last game of the

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>season after they had lost to the Cowboys and they

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>were out of the playoffs, so it was Week seventeen.

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>There was just playing it to play, so you know,

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but still, I mean, the head coach didn't didn't appreciate

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it um When did he get so mad? Then? I

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>mean because it was McVeigh gets so fourth and eight

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.719
<v Speaker 1>on their own twenty four. But but that that shows

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to me that familiar Yeah, but that shows to me

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that that he was making the call. I mean, I

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>mean he just went ahead and ran it. Anyways, that's

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>on that's on mcvaigh, just like it's on McCarthy if

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have control over it. Yeah. The way I

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>look at this is there's good news and there's bad news.

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>The good news is there really is a third phase

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to the game. There's the offense, there's a defense, and

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a special teams, and I think Fossil takes it

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>very seriously to figure out ways that special teams can

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>affect the outcome of the game. The bad news is

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like they always are all coordinated, the offense,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>working with the defense, working with the special teams in

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>order to do what's best for the team. And that's

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>where I have a problem here. And whether it's Fossil

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>who's making decision or whether it's McCarthy who's making the decision.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that last game and that decision to go

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 1>for that fake punt in that situation on fourth down,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>when you're backed up and you're still in the ball game,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, was a panic and it didn't work. It

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't coordinate with what you were doing on defense. Your

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>defense was, in my opinion, playing above their heads. Why

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>put them in a situation where they as they did

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>on the very next play they give up a twenty

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>three yard touchdown and then the game gets out of hand.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So I just I like the idea of it being

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a really truly being a third phase of the game.

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>What I don't like is that it doesn't seem like

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>it's always well coordinated with the other parts or other

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>phases of the game. Dave, what are the three Yeah, Dave,

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>what are the three phases of the game? Offense, defense,

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and special Right? And I could say the same thing

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and everybody would say the exact same order. It's always offense, defense,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>special team. I don't know if the coach, ever, I

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if Fossil actually he probably doesn't say that.

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>He probably sad special teams, defense, offense. But there's a

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>reason why that's the order, because that's always the priority.

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if if I mean because that's that's true,

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that's just the way that it is, and so you go,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a great mentality, that's a great mentality. That's but

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that's the way that I know. But I don't think

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>he Fossil thinks that way. He even said in his

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>very first interview that we are a big part of

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the game. But you know, it's that's not the way

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>head coaches feel. If they felt that way, they'd put

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>their starters on there. They don't. It's a third phase.

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>It can't mess up though, um and we've seen you know,

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>we've seen them mess up. But I mean they've made

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>some plays. They've made some plays. I mean Rico, you know,

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Daddle made a really nice play. I mean, they didn't

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>lead to points, but it definitely could have if it's

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>not their fault. I mean, they've made some plays this year.

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<v Speaker 1>have socially distanced the global Yeah, socially distance Santa picture. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that? Is that the idea? At the

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<v Speaker 1>Is there gonna be Santa really gonna take pictures with

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a mask? That's gonna never mind? And yeah, it's gonna

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>be as it's gonna be a socially distanced. I don't

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>know how they're gonna do it. It's interesting. We'll see.

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm amber. Let us know how it goes when you

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>get over there. I don't know. We'll figure it out anyway.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>You guys are the ones with kids. Nick has babies,

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and well you, Derek, you have grown ups kids Now.

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't have babies. I don't have babies anymore. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're not doing Santa anymore. We're done. We're done with that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're through with that, all right, Anne. Let's get to

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>some questions. What you got over there? Well, when we

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>came back from break, I was trying to ask you

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 1>were we're going to talk about the defense. We haven't

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>really talked about the defense. No, I had it on

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the rundown, but I decided that we're gonna go with

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>questions because I promise we would go with questions. And

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>we only have like six minutes left, and we're gonna

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>talk about defense tomorrow when we talk about the Baltimore

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>offense versus the Cowboys defense, I'll save those questions. I

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>stand corrected, then, got it. I guess it's not always

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>offense defense special teams. On Derek's rundown, it was offense

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>special teams defense. You're going defense when your defenses, when

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>your defenses like the Cowboys right now, we'll spend a

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>little less time on them. Well, okay, sorry to ruin

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>your your little rundown um. Yesterday we talked about we

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about the online um, and I did receive some

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>questions about how hard is it really gonna be for

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>next year for the Cowboys to replace or you know better,

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the old line. We know that Lahell and Tyrn Smith

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>are coming back and all that, but as far as

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>depth and other positions of needs, how hard is it

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be for the Cowboys to solidify the position group

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>once again. They need a swing tackle, they need a

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>competent maybe not even experience. They need a competent, talented

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle, whether that preferably a draft pick, because as

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>we've said, offensive tackles are expensive. Like you're not going

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to sign a guy who's that good for cheap. It

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.720
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't happen. So I mean, I would I would

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 1>say you need to spend a top one hundred draft

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>pick on an offensive tackle, whether that's first, second, third round, whatever.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, other than that, I'm not super worried about it.

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't like and I feel like I'm the offensive

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>line apologist. But if we assume, and we got to

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on it, we don't know that for sure.

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>But if we assume Tyrn and Lyell can come back healthy,

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you've still got both of the Connors. You've still got

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Battish. Maybe you resigned Joe Looney. I think his

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>deal is up, but that's not a terribly expensive contract.

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got all these young guys, like I

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>feel really good about Brandon Knight as like a fourth

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>tackle slash guard, you know, Like, I think there's a

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of intriguing depth pieces already here. The problem is

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>that they're having to start right now, but hopefully next

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>year that won't be the case. Hey, real quick, I

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>want to I want to ask this question and anyone

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>of you guys can jump in on it. Always certain

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that Brian I'm keep calling Brian Knight Brandon Knight. Always

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>sure that Brandon Knight is not good enough to be

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a competent swing tackle. Remember, this is the first real

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>action that he's getting consistently week after week, and quite frankly,

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's had some bad games, but I also

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 1>think there have been some games where he's been pretty

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>good relatively speaking. Are we sure that he's not, with

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>more experience, that he's not the guy you're looking for

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to be your swing tackle. Well, I mean, you make

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>a good point because by the time next year he's

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be a third year pro with you know,

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, seven or eight starts and probably starts

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball. So yeah, he's got

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 1>experience in both and he's shown the ability to go

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>in there and be ready and which is what you

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>need for a swing tackle. But you know, that just

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>seems kind of reckless to me, with knowing that Lyell

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and Tyrn's injury, it just seems to say, well, we

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>got we got Brandon Knight. I mean, I think fourth

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>tackle for him would be good. I think he should

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>be the fourth tackle. I think they need to draft someone.

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, they need to try again and draft a

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Chaz Green. I know that that's not I mean that's

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>what they did. They tried a third round from you know,

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a big school. He's played tackle, he was a good

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>college player. It didn't work, obviously, but they need to

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>do something like that. A tackle who could maybe play

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>guard right away, but could be a tackle for a while. Um,

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, just maybe one day replace one of these

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>two tackles. All right, Okay, that's it. I completely I

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>completely agree. I'll just say and I want to do

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>another question. But Brandon Knight, I've been saying since June,

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Knight is who they want Terrence Steele to be.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he's had He's had some bad moments, but

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, I think he's been very capable,

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>very solid. I don't think it would be it would

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>be reckless to go into next year with him as

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>your only option behind the starting two. But I feel

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>very good about him being a piece here for sure.

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I think for the most part, he has been impressive

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>for an undrafted guy. I'd be happy to keep him

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>around just but you know, I think they need to

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>do more though. That's exactly why I say Dave that

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I would. I would. I think I might be okay

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>with him being the swing tackle because I feel like

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.439
<v Speaker 1>there still would be a problem if you lose both

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>tackles next year. But I feel like if you had Tyrn,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>or if you had Lyle and Brian and Brandon Knight

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>had to be on the other side, I actually feel

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>like he'd probably be okay. If the rest of your

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>offensive line is intact, I feel like he'd probably be okay.

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.839
<v Speaker 1>And so that's where I'm like, and that's what you

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>need from a swing tackle. You need him to be

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>cheap and you need him to be okay. And I

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of what Brandon Knight is. And let's

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.280
<v Speaker 1>not forget what you swing tackle might be. Zack Martin.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>That might be your swing tackle from what he did

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>this year. I mean, so it didn't It just comes

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>back to your five best lineman. You know, do you

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>have better backups at guard or or do you have

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>him at tackle? And I'm not sure that Brandon Knight

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and again Derek. We could talk to his parents about

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>changing his name, but it is Brandon. If we could,

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>we could. I think I'm going to call him, Okay,

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>call him and see. But I think he could be

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a guard. I mean, he looks like like the body

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>type for maybe a guard. But either way, I think

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a good young prospect. I just don't think you

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>can give this offensive line the benefit of the doubt.

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Like if these were if these were freak occurrences, that

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>would be one thing. But this is the fifth year

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in a row that Tyrant has dealt with injuries that

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>have forced him to miss multiple games. It's actually people

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>forget about it, and it's not fair because they're not

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>the same. But this is the second time Lyell has

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>basically missed the whole season. He was on IR for

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.479
<v Speaker 1>the most the entirety of twenty sixteen with a toe

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>ligament problem. So and again that's not his fault. I'm

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>not dogging him or calling him injury prone, but you

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you just can't assume that these guys are gonna be okay.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>You gotta do more. In my opinion, no, and I

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>agree with that. I think the issue becomes you only

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 1>got so much draft capital, and where does this fit

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in your in your list of priorities for this team

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.760
<v Speaker 1>when you get to the draft, where does a swing

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>tackle fall in that? And I don't know that it

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 1>falls high enough for you get somebody more capable than

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Knight. So we'll see. We'll have that conversation a

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>little later. I think that's a conversation with having Well

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>just just know this though, that one more thing. You know,

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they've gotten their ass kicked twice against Washington. Okay, Washington's

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>not a good football team. They're not They're four and seven,

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not good at all. But their defense is strong

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and it plays right into the weakness of the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>this year. They better fix that because those guys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going anywhere. And that's two matchups every single year. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, yeah, defense needs to be better, but

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<v Speaker 1>that offensive line was a problem, and they're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>up against Washington twice a year. You know, Philly's probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a better defensive line as well, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see about the Giants. So I think it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a priority than you think because they've lost two

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<v Speaker 1>football games this year because of it. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a conversation worth having at a future time. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you guys, jon Us. We'll be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get into the Baltimore offense versus the Cowboys defense.

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<v Speaker 1>To then for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Derek Eigelton. This has been The Break live on

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