1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean, music has been the biggest therapy to me 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: in my life, which is why again this has been 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: such a major thing for me, just because it's so 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: important for people to recognize that maybe yes, music, but 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: passion in general, anything that inspires you to feel something, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: I think just helps helps the healing process. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: I'm Lynn Hoffman and welcome to another edition of the 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me podcast, the podcast that explores the healing 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: power of music. On this episode, our guest is Jenna 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Lauren Andrews. Jenna is a singer, songwriter and highly sought 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: after record producer with a hugely successful career ranging from 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: her own hit single Tumblin Down, which was featured on 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the television show Grey's Anatomy, to the hit BTS song 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Butter and Dynamite. As a rare female producer, Jenna is 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: not only the woman behind the hits, she's also an 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: advocate for mental health awareness and has developed a new 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: show called The green Room, a digital TV series about 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: mental health awareness in the music industry. Jenna, welcome to 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about The Green 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Room and more importantly, what motivated you with all the 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: things that you do in your career to create this 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: particular show. 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: I've always found that songwriting is a very like therapeutic process, 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: and it's always helped me write the best song. So 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, in getting to know people 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: obviously in the writing room and stuff, it really helps 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: to just sort of break the ice by feeling vulnerable. 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: And sometimes that's really hard to do. And I think, 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: especially as an artist in the beginning of my career, 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: you know, you learn the you know, the hard way, 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: but also it ends up being positive, you know, because 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: it's it's it's sort of i don't know, like soul affirming. 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: You know, it just makes you feel better to know 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: that you have a support system within the creative community. 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: And I just I felt like it was a necessary 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: force just because you know, like I've met some of 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: my favorite people that way. But beyond that, I think 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: just for people looking in, like the fans and people 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: like obviously watching in these people that they you know, 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: admire and and have, you know, feel like, you know, 44 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: maybe their lives are unattainable. I think it's nice to 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: know that we're all sort of human at the end 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: of the day. 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: You've had some great guests on to share their stories. 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Can you can you share with our audience some of 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: the people that have been on who have revealed their 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: own struggles. 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've Pegan and Sarah, who are actually 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: from Calgary, where I'm from as well, So that was 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: really cool. Lenin Stella, who's an artist that I developed 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: and signed and worked with for many years. And I'm 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: trying to think like so many artists called Upsall Parson, 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: James Jojo, I just had, Mickey Geiton, Xy Dimelio. Yeah, 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: so that's to name a few. 58 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's just an amazing thing that you're doing 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: because you're you're taking these people who otherwise are basically 60 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: inaccessible to the average person who also could be suffering, 61 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: and you're and you're letting them tell their story in 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: a in a great environment for other people to learn 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: from from them, which is always such a huge thing. 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: How have you pushed yourself and others to be so 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: open and transparent about those challenges, because it's not easy 66 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to talk about that publicly sometimes. 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: No, that's actually a really good question, and honestly, that's 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: going back to what I was saying before. I really 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: do think that that's one of the main reasons I 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: felt it was important to do that, because I think 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: that it's it's in some of the episodes we've done, 72 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: especially during COVID, you know, I was doing it live, 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: like live streaming it obviously, Like then, I felt like 74 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: there was a lot of people that were really engaging 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: and feeling just the way that you said, like watching 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: you know their heroes just kind of admit that they 77 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: have the same sort of issues as they did, and 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: it made them feel better about themselves, which was a 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: big part of my goal as well. But I think 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: in terms of just the artists that I've had on 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: and the friends and people that have talked about what 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: they're going through, I think for me, luckily, a lot 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: of the guests that I've had so far have been 84 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: people that I've worked with or know right, so I 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: feel like in that sense they already feel slightly vulnerable 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: with me and open. But in terms of the couple 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: guests that I've had that I haven't known as well, 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: I do think that I just similar to how it 89 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: is in songwriting for me, I guess I take that 90 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: same approach in terms of the conversation that we had 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: on the green room. I think it just kind of 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: starts and as a very human thing, I always kind 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: of compare it to like, I mean, not that it's 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: necessarily a blind date, but it kind of feels like 95 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: the same way. And if it goes well. Put it 96 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: that way, I think that you need you have to 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: trut someone that's a human, right Like, you can't feel 98 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: so robotic or you're trying to get something out of 99 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: them for reasons that are superficial or whatever. It just 100 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: has to feel very much authentic, and that's really you 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: seem to work so far. 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Do you feel that music has healing powers? 103 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Oh, big time. I mean I've always said that and 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: I still say that. I mean, music has been the 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: biggest therapy to me in my life, which is why 106 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: again this has been such a major thing for me, 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: just because it's so important for people to recognize that 108 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: maybe yes, music, but passion in general, anything that inspires 109 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: you to feel, you know, feel something, I think just 110 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: helps there helps the healing process. I mean for me, 111 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: I grew up. My dad's a psychologists, so I've been 112 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: around or education psychologists, a professor, and I've definitely gone 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: to therapy and done all those things. But in terms 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: of my biggest healing source has really just been through music, 115 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: which is why I felt like this is so important 116 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: to do. 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, writers, or performed you know, whatever part of 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the music world, they're always being evaluated sort of under 119 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: the microscope on myriad levels, not just professionally but personally, 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: and this must create Well, let me ask you, what 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: does this create in terms of anxiety and the expectations 122 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: put upon musicians particularly. 123 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: You mean, like in the entertainment business, Like does anxiety 124 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: come from that that you're asking? Yeah, yeah, I mean 125 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I mean, and I think to some 126 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: extent it's based on how you grow up and whether 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: or not you know, anxiety and mental health is very 128 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: much a genetic thing as well, right, So it's it's 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: and again I'm not going to speak to that as 130 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: if I'm you know, professional, but in terms of what 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: I do know, you know, maybe not anxiety, but definitely 132 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: like depression and all those things. You know, sometimes these 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: aren't things that we can necessarily control. So I think 134 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: if you're somebody that's already prone to those feelings, coming 135 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: to the music industry is very dangerous place in some ways, 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: and not in a negative way, which is in a 137 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: way that I think needs to you know, be controlled. 138 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: And I think again those that's a deeper conversation. I 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: think that it's you know, we're we're trying to make 140 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: baby steps towards you know, helping these things for the 141 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 2: entertainment business. But again, this is why I felt interested 142 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: in this, and I think that the more resources that 143 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: we put out there for people the better, especially within 144 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: my community. I'm trying to, you know, do what I. 145 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Can sure, and you're doing a great job. I also 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: noticed that you do have professionals in the therapy world 147 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: on the show to answer those questions or to discuss 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: topics that maybe you know, people watching or even yourself 149 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't quite understand or be able to say. 150 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly the point. I mean, even talking to 151 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: you about this now, it's sometimes it's hard to speak 152 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: like in an educated manner when it comes down to 153 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: these things because they're such important issues. So I think 154 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: to have trained therapists on as well to be able 155 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: to actually give advice from an educated standpoint. Plus, you know, 156 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: in terms of like suicide helpline and just all those 157 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: things that the Jet Foundation, who's also a partner in 158 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: the green room has been so amazing in providing a 159 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: bunch of different things in terms of the support you know, 160 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: support lines, you know, and things like that that we 161 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: can do anything to sort of give back on that 162 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: on that side, which is you know, something that I 163 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: felt like I wouldn't obviously be able to do myself, 164 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: and you know. 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: So no, I get it. That's it's it's a large topic. 166 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: When your music personally or the green room, your show 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: really connects with your fan base, how does that make 168 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you feel? 169 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the best feeling in the world. I mean, 170 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: just you know, based on what we're saying alone. I mean, 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: some of the songs don't feel like they come from 172 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: a certain place to struggle. But even if they are 173 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: happy songs, they are lyrically, you know, not anything to 174 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: do with you know, dark subjects. Sometimes they get pulled 175 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 2: from places in your soul that's like, again, a very 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: healing place. I think in all songs that I've ever 177 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: been a part of, I feel like there's a you know, 178 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: a part of healing in there. I think, like genuinely, 179 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: I ask you were to name any song that have 180 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: been a part of I feel like there's been an 181 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: aspect of that that's really contributed to, you know, a 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: positive space in my mental health. So I think in 183 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: terms of that and to feel to see how people 184 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: receive it is incredible. 185 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: You have it all in the industry. I mean, you're 186 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: writing hit songs for some of the biggest names in 187 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: the business. Not to mention yourself and to come away 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: from that and do this is a completely different career 189 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: move altogether. What made you decide to do such an 190 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: extremely personal series like this. 191 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: I think it was just a void that I've felt 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: for a long time, just because I've struggled, you know, 193 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: my whole life with all these things, whether it be 194 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: anxiety or depression, all these things that we've talked about. 195 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: And I think that rather than feel you know, ashamed, 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: which I think even though it's more exposed today, and 197 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: I think that again, it's it's becoming a subject that 198 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: people feel comfortable talking about. I feel like, you know, 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: that's really been in the last five years that I've 200 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: noticed it the most. But I think that like going 201 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: back fifteen years ago, especially when I was in high school, 202 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: I think that wasn't necessarily a thing, and I do 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: think it still exists that people feel ashamed of those things, 204 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: and it genuinely is a real sickness, you know. And 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: I think that to be able to feel comfortable to 206 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: talk about it out loud and make it a positive 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: thing rather than a negative thing with something that was 208 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: really important to me. So that's really. 209 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Why you're so humble. How much do you feel? Really seriously, 210 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: I mean that I know that it helps you what 211 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: you're doing, but it also helps so many people just 212 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: talking about things. When people realize they have a connection 213 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: or a commonality with someone that they looked up to, 214 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: that can change a person's life. 215 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, and I honestly that means the world 216 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: to me because that really is the goal. And I 217 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, I look at things the same way that 218 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: I had my music career. Is everything's baby steps, right, 219 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: so you can't you can't expect to like move them 220 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: out in a day. But I think that even if 221 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: you can, like you said, change one person's life, that's 222 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: really the goal. And I think that if you can 223 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: work towards it. To me, there's no finished line, if 224 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: I make sense not. 225 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be Yeah, what music connects with 226 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: you in a healing manner. Who do you listen to 227 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: when you really need to get through something or if 228 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: you're struggling with something, Well, that's a good question. 229 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I will really pull it back 230 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: to music because the music is like I think that 231 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: anybody who's truly in it for the long run, I think, 232 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's becomes such a massive part of your life. 233 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: So a lot of your outlet is in your music. 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: But in terms of talking to friends and you know, 235 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: relationships and family and stuff like, of course that exists, 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: and I do have a support system, but I do 237 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: think that like a lot of my outlet comes in music. 238 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: To be honest, would you say that creating and hosting 239 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: the Green Room series is more imant then perhaps even 240 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: your musical legacy one hundred percent? 241 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: Like, That's that's what I tell a lot of people 242 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: that come on. That's really what I feel. I think 243 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: that eventually I want this to feel exactly like that, 244 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: because I think it's something that again I didn't really 245 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: speak about this, but when I was doing my artist project, 246 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: I was signed to death Jam, and I was touring 247 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: all those things, and I think one of the things 248 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: that really held me back was my mental health and 249 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure really how to deal with it. And 250 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: I think that to be able to speak to that 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: or the you know, the newer generations coming up and 252 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: to be able to help that's again part of the 253 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: reason why I love artist development things like that, because 254 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: I feel like I could be the mentor that I 255 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: kind of wish I had, you know, like, there's definitely 256 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: people that I've had that have been helpful to me, 257 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: but I don't know that I necessarily had that one mentor, 258 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: and I think that that's definitely a goal of mine. 259 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: Mentors are huge, They're everything. Do you only think if 260 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: you if you have more more than one, you are 261 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: so blessed. And I know I've had a few of 262 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: them in my life, so I can totally understand what 263 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: you mean by that. And you think about all the 264 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: people out there that may never come across a mentor 265 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: and how important that role for somebody to play in 266 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: someone's life is. So speaking of that, where can people 267 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: find your show to watch? The green Room? 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: So basically it's course, it's all the same across all socials. 269 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: It's really just the green Room talks and that's you know, 270 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: whether it be you know, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, all those things, 271 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: and I think, I think that's it the same thing. 272 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: I mean, there was a time when we were, yeah, 273 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: we were doing a couple other Like I said during COVID, 274 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 2: it was like Twitch and YouTube rodeo, which I'm not 275 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: even sure if I do that anymore. But anyway, the 276 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: main episodes you can obviously find on the green Room talk. 277 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: So excellent, Jenna. Thank you so much for being on 278 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: Music Safe to me, and thank you for the work 279 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: you and your team can continued to do in bringing 280 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: mental health out of the darkness. And we wish you 281 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: nothing but huge success moving forward in your life with 282 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: everything that you do. 283 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate the time, 284 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: and again this means a lot to me, so I 285 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: appreciate the conversation.