1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: It is Monday. I'm sorry, it's Tuesday, October sixteenth, twenty 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: twenty four, Season twenty, episode number fifty. Welcome to the 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: latest edition of The Break. We are alive from the 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we got our 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: mix up shows working. 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 5: This week. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: We got a whole different crew in here for the Break. 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: I got my longtime associate back with me, mister Nick Eatman, 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: who has not been on a Break for what a 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: year now, because he's been doing some other show. I 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: don't know, it's storyline or something, and charging me for 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: T shirts and all kinds of crazy stuff. I don't know. 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: It's just crazy, but great, great job on that show. 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: I love it. I've been listening. It's good stuff. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 6: Thank you up. We're doing it here in an hour. 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I made you do double duty these todays 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: because I'm like, I want to have you back on 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: the break. So here you go. 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 6: You love what you do. You never have to work, right, exactly. 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 5: I love that quote. 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: It's exactly right. Tommy Yarsh, the newest member of the 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com team. Welcome to the show. 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 7: Thank you man. 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: Tell the folks a little bit about your background, like 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: where you came from, how you got here. Of course 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: you're a long one, which we got a lot of. 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, sorry to box you out here, but I'm okay. 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: He's okay. Things are going to be okay. 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: But uh no. 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 7: I covered Texas for for two years while I was 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 7: in school there and done some play by player work 42 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 7: at the high school level as well. I'm just super 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 7: excited to be here working for the Cowboys and working 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 7: with Cowboys Nation. 45 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 6: Awesome. 46 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: We'll welcome to the crew, and of course Annie Joe 47 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: Laughlin comes from Girls Talk, Boys Talk, Yes, sir, tell 48 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: the folks a little bit on the break about you 49 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: and your background and interesting background, but making full circle. 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 8: The cheerleader for the Cowboys back in the nineties with 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 8: Akman Smith and Irvin and we were winning the good 52 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 8: old days. 53 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I like. 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 8: Both reminists about those days. 55 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 5: And now you know, I'm back in Texas. 56 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 8: I was covering the Niners for ten years, don't hate me, 57 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 8: and then now I'm here. I'm happy to be back 58 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 8: covering the team that I love, America's team and happy 59 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 8: to be with here at the break. 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome. We got our crew here today. We'll be 61 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: on for today and tomorrow covering the team. We got 62 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff we're going to talk about it. 63 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: I like to do big picture kind of things whenever 64 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: we have these mix up shows, just to kind of 65 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: mix in some opinions. So I have a lot of 66 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: questions for you guys that we'll get into, just to 67 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: give people a good idea of where this team is 68 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: right now. I at the break not just so much 69 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: about what happened in the last game, because obviously that 70 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: wasn't very good, But they're just looking at it overall, 71 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: looking at the entire team and then what they'll have 72 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: to do in the next part of the season in 73 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: order to get themselves back on track. 74 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 6: Uh. 75 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: Nick. First, this morning, Jerry had an interview on the fan. 76 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: It was it was tense, It was for you texted 77 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: You texted me and was like are you listening? Like, yeah, 78 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: I'm listening, and it was it was very intense. What 79 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: was your takeaway? 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 6: I guess from that fireworks for sure. 81 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 9: But but you know, he's this stemmed from from Sunday too, 82 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 9: because after after the game, you know, some of the questions. 83 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 9: He didn't really love those as well. Obviously upset because 84 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 9: of the the loss and the way the team got 85 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 9: got manhandled in the game. So it kind of stemmed 86 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 9: over to some of the questions. Really, the the theme 87 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 9: that I took from it is there's not going to 88 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 9: be a lot of huge changes as far as personnel wise, players, coaches. Uh, 89 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 9: you know, they asked about the coach, which coaching changed that, 90 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 9: why would I do that? Not not changing that? And 91 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 9: then as players basically answered was where where do you 92 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 9: go get players? You know, Bill Parcels used always say 93 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 9: you can't just go to the gas station down the 94 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 9: street and pick up players and so, and they have 95 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 9: already done that, They've gotten those guys. So like that 96 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 9: was kind of the theme that I took out. I 97 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 9: don't know what y'all thought, but it was more like, hey, 98 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 9: it's got to get better with then, but this is 99 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 9: who we've got for the most part, and we've got 100 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 9: to fix it right here. 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think he said he was happy with 102 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 8: the players he has is he's seen how effective they 103 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 8: can be, and that it thinks that there's obviously some 104 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 8: rookies and some growing pains. However, this is the team 105 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 8: and he knows that this is a team that he 106 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 8: thinks can eventually, you know, go to playoffs or deep 107 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 8: in the playoffs. 108 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, I think the interesting part for 109 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 7: me was there's a lot of commonality in terms of 110 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 7: what Jerry talked about and what mich McCarthy talked about 111 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 7: yesterday in terms of the offensive line, specifically taking some 112 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 7: time to marinate. Obviously Tyler Goyiton was unable to start with. 113 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 7: Jerry said this morning that he is the left tackle 114 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 7: for the Dallas Cowboys, so Tyler Smith probably expected to 115 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 7: move back to god. I know, we'll talk about that 116 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 7: a little bit later, but that's the position that I 117 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 7: think this team is looking to try and marinate so 118 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 7: that when they get in rhythm, it's a unit that 119 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 7: we know and love. 120 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 6: Like the Cowboys everything over, you know, everything works exactly. 121 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 7: But when you've got two rookies up front, you know 122 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 7: it's going to take time, right And something that Mike 123 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 7: McCarthy harped on yesterday was that the youth on this 124 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 7: team is going to pay off in the long term. 125 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 7: These are valuable reps that these guys are getting. So, 126 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 7: you know, patience is something that you know may be 127 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 7: running a little bit thin, but in the long run, 128 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 7: it is what's going to pay off. 129 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: You know, when you look at the lines, I guess 130 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: on the offensive end defensive side of the ball, I 131 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: think that's where a lot of the problems are stemming 132 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: at this point. Offensively, I think, as you said, you 133 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: got a lot of inexperience and they're having to figure 134 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: it out. Defensive side, your compromised. You just don't have 135 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: as many bodies, particularly on the edges, as you usually do, 136 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: so I think it doesn't go much farther than the lines. 137 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: You hear this from football people all the time. It's 138 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: about the trenches. What's happening in the trenches, And right 139 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: now the Cowboys just aren't playing their best football in 140 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: the trenches, and that's why you're seeing I think some 141 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: of the results that you're seeing, and I don't know 142 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: if you're going to fix that by going out and 143 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: picking up whoever's out there, you know, wherever they are 144 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: at this point of the year. That's a hard thing 145 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: to be able to do at this point to try 146 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: to to rectify that with personnel. You just have to 147 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: hope those rookies come along and get better on the 148 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: offensive line, and then pray that you get your defensive 149 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: ends back from injury that you're missing, and hopefully that's enough. 150 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: But man, it's a it's a tough situation to be 151 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 3: in because that that. I don't think anybody enjoyed what 152 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: happened on Sunday from the Cowboys perspective. 153 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 9: So, yeah, especially the way you got, you know, bullied 154 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 9: basically by a team like that has been bullied their 155 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 9: entire franchise. 156 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 6: I mean, that's sorry, That's what it is. 157 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 9: And that's why I thought it was kind of interesting 158 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 9: when you're like, well, Dan, you know, Dan Campbell, Jared Goff, 159 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 9: did they run it up the score? 160 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 6: They did? 161 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 9: They embarrass some of me. This is our organization that's 162 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 9: been embarrassed their entire life, you know, the Lions, That's 163 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 9: what how many times does that happen to them? So 164 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 9: you can't come back now and be like, look what 165 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 9: they did. No, they that's what they've done. That they've 166 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 9: learned because they've been on the other side, and rightfully so, 167 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 9: and they they took it to the Cowboys. The buy helps, 168 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 9: but I think the Niners are kind of played the 169 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 9: same type of way and they've been so fix the 170 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 9: problems quickly because the Niners coming they really don't carry 171 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 9: and you've been on that other side of that robbery. 172 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 9: They don't really seem to care what the Cowboys are 173 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 9: going through right now anybody feeling sorry for but. 174 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 8: They have their own issues as well, you know, and 175 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 8: them coming off the bike, and it's going to help them, 176 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 8: you know, because they've got CHRISI McCaffrey, who they don't 177 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 8: even know it's going to come back the season. But 178 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 8: they've got Mason, a running back that's able to kind 179 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 8: of fill in, which you look at some teams in 180 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 8: the NFL, they've got these third string forest ring running 181 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 8: backs that are able to impact, where the Cowboys seem 182 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 8: to keep struggling with finding a running back. 183 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 5: You know, Pollard, I didn't think it was going to 184 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: be a big loss. 185 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 8: I'm going to say because he wasn't like an every 186 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 8: down back, but now we're seeing, yeah. 187 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: We kind of need him back, right, you know. 188 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know the thing about that, to me, 189 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: it's not so much the running back in San Francisco, 190 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: it's the scheme. I was telling somebody this other day, 191 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: and I don't that's. 192 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: The running back because he's sitting on my fantasy team. 193 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: But Nick, you will appreciate this. I'm not sure if 194 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: Tommy's too young for this. But remember back in the 195 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: day of the Broncos under Shannahan. Yes, it was like 196 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: every year in fantasy you would just say, who's the 197 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: running back for the Denver Broncos this year? Pick him first, 198 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a great year. I mean that's where 199 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: you got the guy like Ruben Drones, who, by all accounts, yes, 200 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: these are not weren't going to be necessarily great, you know, 201 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: running backs, but in that system, they know how to 202 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: run the ball in that system, and so I think 203 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: it's not surprising to me that Mason is. I think 204 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: he's he's the first, second, third somewhere in there in 205 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: rushing in the NFL this season. Yeah, I mean that's 206 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: not surprising to me because that system they just know 207 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: how to get the running the most out of the 208 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: running game, and it part of it starts with the 209 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: offensive line, but you can put whoever you want back 210 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: there running back. If they're a one cut guy that 211 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: knows how to get up feel quick, they can run 212 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: in that offense and they can be successful. And I 213 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: think that's that surprise, you know, just. 214 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 6: This system isn't that isn't that way, No, it's not. 215 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 9: When I watched the Money Night game, you know, in 216 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 9: eighty game, it seems like it feels like everybody's got 217 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 9: a really fast, quick running back, and I'm like, we 218 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 9: just don't see that type of play, even Rico Donald, 219 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 9: he's not. He's the fastest of the roop, the quickest, 220 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 9: but you don't see him in the open field like 221 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 9: that every time I want. I watched even the backup 222 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 9: for the Bills last night that came in Davis and 223 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 9: of course Brees Hall, But I mean, like they're so 224 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 9: fast and quick. I'm like, you need that kind of 225 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 9: juice here at the run. 226 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: You don't think Rico has that though, I kind of do, 227 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: and I just don't think he's getting a chance to 228 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: really show it as much with him. 229 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, you would try to keep my traveling right, it's 230 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 7: always in a no win situation in this show, he's 231 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 7: dealing with his boss and his boss and his boss. 232 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: Like that, we put him in a bathroom. 233 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 9: I mean, y'all see, I just don't see that enough 234 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 9: out of him, out of Rico. 235 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 8: But well, Shatanenheimer always says that he's hitting the hole 236 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 8: too fast. He needs to have patience and then wait 237 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 8: for the hole to open up. And so there's things 238 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 8: I think that he's still trying to develop with his 239 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 8: O line. And that's what I think. Sean Himer said 240 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 8: that many many times his patients and Virtue. 241 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 7: So yeah, well, I mean it all starts with the 242 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 7: offensive line, right. You said earlier you win games in 243 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 7: the trenches in the NFL really across all levels of football, right, 244 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 7: If you have a good offensive line, good defensive line, 245 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 7: you're gonna win games. It's part of the reason why 246 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 7: San Francisco scheme works so well. 247 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 5: Not just Kyle. 248 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 7: Shanahan, you know, being able to run the ball so well, 249 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 7: but they've got a great offensive line and they make 250 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 7: gaps for Mason and any running back they've got in there. 251 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: I mean, any of the four of us could suit 252 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 7: up in that apartment probably run for a good sixty 253 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 7: to seventy yards. Yeah, Trent Williams to help you out. 254 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 7: But you know, in terms of the Cowboys, I think 255 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 7: something interesting that I took away from mich McCarthy yesterday 256 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 7: was saying that he wants to get Rico Dowdle more touches. 257 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 7: And it was kind of surprising to me. I don't 258 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 7: know about you guys, the fact that he only got 259 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 7: five last week. After he has a career game against 260 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 7: the Steelers, he still goes for twenty five yards runs 261 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 7: for five yards of carry. Ezekiel Elliott had more touches 262 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 7: than he did. I know that the Cowboys had said, hey, 263 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 7: we're saving Ezekiel Elliott for when we need him, but 264 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 7: in this game, I didn't see a situation where they 265 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 7: necessarily needed him to get the run game going. If 266 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 7: you're going to lean on a guy to get the 267 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 7: run game going, you go on the guy who just 268 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 7: had eighty seven yards on the ground for you in 269 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 7: the best run game he's had in his career. So 270 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 7: that puzzled me a little bit. I think that Mike 271 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 7: McCarthy maybe leaned away from the run a little bit 272 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 7: too early. I was telling Nick about this yesterday when 273 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 7: the Lions went up seventeen to three. After that Sam 274 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 7: Laporta touchdown, they ran the ball one time for no 275 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 7: game the rest of the first half. I understand, you're 276 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 7: in a hole and you've got to try and move 277 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 7: the ball downfield and score quickly. But your passing game 278 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 7: is not going to open up. If you're a run game, 279 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 7: run existent. If you're one dimensional, it's just not going 280 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 7: to work for you. So you know that that kind 281 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 7: of raised my eyebrow a little bit. But if Rico 282 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 7: Dawdle gets more touches and he really can be leaned 283 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 7: on more to try and establish this run game, I 284 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 7: think that helps. And with a young offensive line that's 285 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 7: just trying to get better, getting them those run blocking 286 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 7: reps is going to help too in the long term 287 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 7: of their development. 288 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, because Nick, this is that's their only choice. Really 289 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 5: thinking about it. 290 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 8: It is Rico And if you like what you said, Tommy, 291 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 8: if you don't have the running game, you don't have 292 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 8: you can't open up the offense. You can do play action, 293 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 8: you know, you put pressure on deck that receivers ares 294 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 8: no separation between receivers and the dvs. I mean, it 295 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 8: causes so many problems and we didn't we can't stop 296 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 8: to run, Derek. 297 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 9: I wish they had like hard knocks going on right 298 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 9: now so we could. 299 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: I want to know really, like what they're saying behind 300 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: this is what I want to I got a question 301 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: about that. 302 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's that's the big question, Like what is it? 303 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 9: Because you know, I always say they see and they 304 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 9: are in the meetings, in their on field, they see 305 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 9: more than we do and they evaluate it so they 306 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 9: know the situation. I just want them to share it 307 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 9: with us because I don't know what's going on, because 308 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 9: it's not like, you know, I can't get him on 309 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 9: the field. 310 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: No, they're begging for a running back to get on 311 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 6: the field. 312 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 8: He's proven, he's the fact that he's quick, he's verse, 313 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 8: and he even says he's like yeah, they kept saying 314 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 8: that he needed the terminology to playbook. 315 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: He goes, I'm ready. 316 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 8: When I spoke to in the locker room, he said, 317 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 8: I'm ready to make an impact because I know I 318 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 8: can help this team. 319 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 5: Why are we trying that? 320 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: Well? I think that the interesting part for me is 321 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: I wonder if part of This is if you look 322 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: at Zeke and you look at Dalvin Cook, you say, well, 323 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: those are two of the same kind of running back. 324 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 3: And I don't know if that is the evaluation. I 325 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: don't know if the Cowboys would be in a position 326 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 3: where they would want to say, Okay, we're going to 327 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: make Zeke Elliott and inactive, like, because do you really 328 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: need two of those guys active? Especially right now you 329 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: got so many injuries that you're dealing with. Do you 330 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: really want to make both? I mean, make both those 331 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: guys active when they kind of play a similar role, right, 332 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: And so that's where I look at it. I just 333 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: don't know if I don't know how the Cowboys evaluate 334 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: Zeke in that whole Dalvin Cook thing. I think they 335 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: believe that Zeke still has a role on this team, 336 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: whether they're using him in that way or not. I 337 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: think they still feel like he has a role on 338 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: this team. And because of that, I don't think that 339 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: they're willing to necessarily make him an active put Dalvin up. Now. 340 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 3: I think a lot of fans and by myself included, 341 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: want to see We just want to see it. It's 342 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: just like, just let me see what Dalvin Cook they're 343 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: seeing it in practice. I just want to see it 344 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: for myself. Like Ken, Dalvin Cook adds something to this 345 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: offense that's not there right now. I just don't know 346 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: if they're. 347 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 6: Willing to pull that truck. 348 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 8: There is a reason they signed to the practice squad, 349 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 8: right they do. 350 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, that may be an insurance policy, right, they could 351 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: be looking at hey, as we keep going, we know Rico. 352 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: One of the things about Rico is he hasn't been 353 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: able to stay healthy. They may be looking at that 354 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: as estate insurance policy, you know, break glass in case 355 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: of emergency type thing, and that's the way they're looking 356 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: at it. Again, these are all suppositions because they're not 357 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: really saying much on why they're not righting Dalvin Cook 358 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: out there. But those will be the things that I 359 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: would at least I. 360 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: Want to see. I want to see. 361 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 9: We all want to see, right, Yeah, I mean there's nothing, 362 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 9: there's nothing in their way that you wouldn't want to 363 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 9: I mean, you've got to get better. I mean we 364 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 9: even want to see deuce Van. I mean, I think 365 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 9: we've seen that enough. But like you just want to 366 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 9: see something better than this, because Rico Zeke, it's just 367 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 9: it's not working. 368 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 6: You know, they're they're either their. 369 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 9: Last or second to last in the league in rushing. 370 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 9: They were they were last two weeks ago, probably back 371 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 9: to last again. 372 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 6: So it's not good enough. 373 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 7: We're gonna go, Well, I'll just kind of hypothetical before 374 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 7: we go to break. Let's say we do bring Dalvin 375 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 7: Cook up. If he doesn't get the touches, what difference 376 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 7: is it going to make? 377 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: Right? 378 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 7: I think that's been part of the problem is that 379 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 7: the run game hasn't been established. So Cowboys getting a holder, 380 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 7: they feel like they can't establish the run game. 381 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 8: They just go back and. 382 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: Throwing the ball. 383 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 9: It's like chicken and egg theory. I mean that how 384 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 9: do you start how do you establish the run without 385 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 9: establishing the run? I mean, how do you know it's 386 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 9: established if you don't run the ball. So that's that's 387 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 9: always been kind of the problem here. But I mean, 388 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 9: this is the time to try some new things, and 389 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 9: you know, if you're not bringing in other players, go 390 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 9: with what you have and he's he's still here. 391 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: Well. The other part to that too is if you 392 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: remember back, I think it was during training camp when 393 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy was talking about the running game. He said, 394 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: we're going to have to be committed to it. And 395 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: to me, when I look at that, I say, they 396 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: aren't showing a commitment to it, because way too many 397 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: times we've heard this year, well, the game got us 398 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: out of it, game got a still position where we 399 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: couldn't do it. My thought is, in that game last week, 400 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: you're getting your butt whooped. Trying to throw the ball 401 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: forty times wasn't necessarily going to get you back in 402 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: that game. You probably would have been better served at 403 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: that point, when maybe you're down seventeen points, twenty one points, 404 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: whatever the case might have been, to say, Okay, let's 405 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: slow this thing down a little bit, let's try to 406 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: run the ball if you're really committed to it, right, 407 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: And that's where I'm like, there could have been opportunities 408 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: I remember Jason used to do. Jason Garrett used to 409 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: do that. There'd be times in games, even when the 410 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: Cowboys were down, when he would just say he would 411 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: go on a drive with literally they just run the ball, 412 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, and 413 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: they did it effectively and that could sometimes slow the 414 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: game down enough for them to get it back into 415 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: a workable situation where now you can try to really 416 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: start working your offense again, and I just don't think 417 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: the Cowboys are doing that this year. I think when 418 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: it comes to the score, I think quickly it can 419 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: get them out of their running game and they just 420 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: won't worry about it. They won't go back to it. 421 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: And that's not really a commitment to the run as 422 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: I think they want to. At least they're saying that 423 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: they want. 424 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 8: That's a great point and helps our defense. I'll have 425 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 8: to stay on the field, so right, absolutely. 426 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna take our first break when we 427 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: come back. 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Uh this 510 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: check this segments brought to you by blockchain dot Com. 511 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: All right, here's what we're gonna do. I got some 512 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: questions for you guys. I'm gonna run them down. Feel 513 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: free to chime in as you choose. This first question, 514 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: which has been the bigger problem for the Dallas Cowboys, 515 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: the rushing offense or the rushing defense. 516 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 7: Well, uh, go for it, ton, I would say the 517 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 7: rushing defense. And I understand that it's hard to say 518 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 7: that because of several things. One you face some of 519 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 7: the best running teams in the league to start off 520 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 7: the year, and two you're shorthanded on defense. But the 521 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 7: simple fact of the matter is that there is there's 522 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 7: nothing coming out of it. I mean, teams are just 523 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 7: running all over Dallas and they have no answer. It 524 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 7: doesn't matter who's on the field, and I think that 525 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 7: even when you look back at some of the earlier 526 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 7: games when Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence were out there, 527 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 7: they were still struggling to defend the run. You think 528 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 7: about that Baltimore game where they have what wasn't nearly 529 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 7: three hundred yards on the ground between you know, Derek 530 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 7: Henry Lamar Jackson. Obviously that's a, like I said, one 531 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 7: of the harder rushing duos to stop. But it seems 532 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 7: like there's just no answer regardless of who's on the field. 533 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 7: We've seen demarve On Overshown have some players you look 534 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 7: and you say, okay, yeah, we see it, but then 535 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 7: somewhere you know he's just not there and he's not 536 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 7: making an impact the interior the defensive line. Milesy Smith 537 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 7: had a really good game a couple of weeks ago, 538 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 7: but there's still, you know, growing pains that are that 539 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 7: are set to be there, right with those first and 540 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 7: second year guys that Mike McCarthy talked about getting those 541 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 7: valuable reps. So I think the rushing defense for me 542 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 7: is what has can improve more heading into the Spy 543 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 7: we can into San Francisco. 544 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 8: I'm going to go rushing offense, just because it seems 545 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 8: if you watch these teams, they know we don't have 546 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 8: a run game, so they kind of sit back and 547 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 8: attack the passing, you know, over and over and over again. 548 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 8: And that's why we tend to come have to come 549 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 8: from behind. And we all know we spoke about this already, 550 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 8: not to reiterate, but the fact that we the running 551 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 8: game kind of sets the whole tone, you know, for 552 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 8: us to be able to have the play action to 553 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 8: open up the offense, to alleviate some pressure off Dak. 554 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 8: You know, Dack's now holding on the ball too long 555 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 8: because he knows he's we can't run the ball. So 556 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 8: I think for me, it's the definitely the rushing game 557 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 8: is the struggle and the problem. 558 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 9: This reminds me of me take in the SAT where 559 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 9: it was like it was like the English portion and 560 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 9: the math and I struggle on both sides. You know, 561 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 9: I don't know which bar wash. It's okay, I still 562 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 9: got a degree bear, but both, I mean it's both. 563 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 9: I mean, you guys are both right. I mean I like, 564 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 9: like you're saying those points, I'm like, yeah, totally agree, 565 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 9: And then you said that, I'm like, yeah, I think 566 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 9: it's that too. I would probably lean on the rush 567 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 9: defense just because because on that the passing game. I mean, 568 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 9: you got these guys that should should at least help 569 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 9: the offense a little bit. But if you cannot stop 570 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 9: the run, you really can't do anything. And uh, they 571 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 9: because you don't, they don't have to throw and then 572 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 9: they're not. You know, Baltimore didn't really have to throw 573 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 9: the Saints through when they wanted to, but they also 574 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 9: ran it to and so that's probably the most alarming thing. 575 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, when does Micah come back? When does Taint come back? Great? 576 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 9: But they were part of the problem too. It's kind 577 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 9: of like that year that that that Wade Phillips got 578 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 9: fired and Romo got hurt, and it's like, well Romo 579 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 9: got hurt. They were one in five when Romo got hurt. 580 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 9: So it's like the problems were there that whole year too. 581 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 9: Wasn't just that, So problems are there. They're gonna have 582 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 9: to fix that. 583 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 3: New Orleans game, they were full, full go and it 584 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: just it was it was bad. 585 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 6: The problem that I see. 586 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 9: And I don't know if you can talk to the 587 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 9: league about this, but you only play the Giants twice. 588 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can get more of those. 589 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 6: That's what you need because you play the Giants more, 590 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 6: be better. 591 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, that's what everybody heard answer. 592 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 6: Giants. 593 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: Do you think you know? I think it's I think 594 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: it's run defense. And the reason why it's not so 595 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: much because one is worse than the other. But when 596 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: you're playing football, I've seen teams be successful that had 597 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: no rushing offense. I've never seen a team in the 598 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: NFL be successful that can't stop the run. If you 599 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 3: can't stop the run, that's like the first thing. If 600 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: you can't stop the run, then everything else is just 601 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: gonna it's just going to be a problem because, yeah, 602 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 3: because the the opposing offense knows that their whole playbook 603 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: is now open to them because if they're running the 604 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: ball effectively, now play action work, Now they can get 605 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 3: you deep. There are so many things you can do 606 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 3: if you got your running game going that that are 607 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: limited if you don't have your running game going. So 608 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: I just I look at that and I say that 609 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: that one thing is probably a acting this entire team 610 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: more than anything else, just their inability to be able 611 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: to stop the run on a consistent basis, no matter 612 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: who they're playing. 613 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 8: We I think I'm still frustrated because we didn't sign 614 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 8: Derrick Henry. So that's my that's my bygones. 615 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 7: I mean, I think you make a good point about 616 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 7: you know, you don't necessarily have to have a run 617 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 7: game to be able to win games and throw the 618 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 7: ball run. Look at this team. They have two wins 619 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 7: where they don't necessarily run the ball very well, and 620 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott, who was I think third in the league 621 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 7: in passing yards coming into this game, just tosses all 622 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 7: over everybody in it Winsley football game. So you know, 623 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 7: But at the same time, now that that does become 624 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 7: I don't want to say the identity of the offense 625 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 7: because it's too early in the season to really put 626 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 7: a label on that. And we'll see if they can 627 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 7: get their run game going. But you know, like she said, 628 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 7: if you if you know that that's what it is 629 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 7: coming in, then it's going to get easier to stop 630 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 7: and you don't need to load up the box as much. 631 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeap you think about it. And obviously I hate sometimes 632 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: making this comparison because I understand before anybody says, I understand, 633 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 3: you're talking about the best quarterback in the league. But 634 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: The chief are a good example of how you don't 635 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: necessarily have to have a great running game if you can, 636 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: if you can establish a good passing game that scares people, 637 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: it will create more in your running game. Isaiah Pacheco 638 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 3: is not a great running back, he's very, very, very 639 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: serviceable in that offense. Right. They have a defense that 640 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: they've improved over time, and now their defense is I 641 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: think really really good. And so they have a defense 642 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: that can that can play well. They can play comment 643 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: complimentary style of football and on their offense, because you're 644 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: so afraid of their quarterback and so afraid of their 645 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: tight end, you can actually get away with having a 646 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: an okay running back that looks really good in that offense. Right, 647 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: So I guess that's the point I'm making more is 648 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: you can figure out how to make the run game work. 649 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: You cannot make it work if you can't stop the run. 650 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. And also you said that about the Chiefs. 651 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 9: I think that's so important with I think I think 652 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 9: having a great tight end is probably the most important 653 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 9: thing that you can really have in a dynamic offense 654 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 9: because I think when Kelsey's really on his game doing 655 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 9: his thing, it's so hard to stop, just how versatile 656 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 9: they could be. 657 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 6: You kind of thought Jake Ferguson was. 658 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 9: Going to take I'm not saying to the Kelsey level, 659 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 9: but take that next leap. 660 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 6: And so far he. 661 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 9: Really hasn't done that yet, but I mean it's early, 662 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 9: it's slowly in the year, no one really has. But 663 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 9: I was kind of hoping he would take a little 664 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 9: bit more of that of that step this year because 665 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 9: if he can do that, I think that really does 666 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 9: open so many things, because it's so hard to stop 667 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 9: when you have multiple tight ends out there that can 668 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 9: you can play any style you want. 669 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would actually if I were the Cowboys, I'd 670 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: actually target him a little bit more. I would actually 671 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: create plays for him because I agree with you. I 672 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: think when you get a tight end rolling, it does 673 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: something to a defense because a defense can be made 674 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: to to kind of try to take away a wide receiver. 675 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: They have to do a lot of things differently in 676 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: order to take away a tight end who's really killing you. 677 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: And I think that and they have to kind of 678 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: I think Ferguson. What I love about Ferguson is he's 679 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: a good tight end, but really it's the run after 680 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: the catch that makes him I think, yeah, better than 681 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: the average, right, And I think they ought to find 682 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: more opportun needs to to let him get the ball 683 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 3: in the open film, see what he can do with him. 684 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 6: He's got to catch it too. 685 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 8: I mean, they had to play and I've seen him 686 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 8: make catches like that. We can twist, but I don't 687 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 8: know what. 688 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: He's made catches. That was just a bad one for him. 689 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: I'll give him that. That was a bad one for 690 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: him because usually catch. 691 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 9: You needed that because you needed it because the Lions 692 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 9: were playing backyard football, you know, everything was like you know, 693 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 9: like even the big guys were like I want the ball. 694 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 9: They're like, okay, we'll thought to sixty eight. They were 695 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 9: determined to get sixty eight a touchdown. 696 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: But like that knows where like every play somebody's reporting 697 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: like wow, let's go. 698 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 6: But that play that. 699 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 9: I'm talking about, you know, they rolled here and then 700 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 9: threw it back to Ferguson. 701 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 6: You're like, what is he? Okay, well I'll catch it. 702 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: You know. 703 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 6: So that was that was it. 704 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 9: But I mean the question that you that you asked, 705 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 9: that's the problem is is that it is kind of 706 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 9: a tough question. Yes, you're right, you're right, you're right, 707 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 9: I'll be right. We're all right on this. The running 708 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 9: game is terrible and the run defense is terrible. It's 709 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 9: not a good it's not a good recipe. 710 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of surprising. 711 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 9: I mean, when you have a really bad running game 712 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 9: and a really bad run defense in your three and three, 713 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 9: it's kind of surprising. 714 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, because you want to play those teams. 715 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: Again, those teams that you beat. 716 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 6: You right, to be just three and three is surprising. 717 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's take our final break. 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It is the final segment of the Break. 783 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: We are alive from that s WBC Mortgage Studios at 784 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: the Star. For those who are a little bit confused 785 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: and join the show late, yes, this is still the Break. 786 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: We just don't have our normal show. 787 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 6: They might be thinking it as talking cowboys because of 788 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 6: the time. 789 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, every is off right. Everything's off the 790 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: time and the folks that you're seeing here, this is 791 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: our show. We mixed it. We mixed it up this week, today, 792 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: and tomorrow. All of our shows will have different lineups. 793 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: You will see the same hosts for each of the shows, 794 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: but all the other folks on those shows will be different. 795 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: It's our opportunity to be able to kind of mix 796 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: some opinions and give you guys an opportunity. Here here's 797 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: some other conversations and what you typically hear on the shows. 798 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: Girls Boys Talk is a place you can hear Bonnie 799 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: Jail regularly. Nick you can hear them on storyline. Tommy 800 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: just got here, so we're trying to figure out where 801 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: we're going to fit him in. So far, I'm liking it. 802 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: I might have to, like, I might have to call 803 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: from the bullpen and be like, hey, Tommy, I need Tommy. 804 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 3: Give me Tommy. 805 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 7: I'll throw a hundred down the middle. 806 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 6: There we go, morn middle relief. 807 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 9: On every show, it's like wait a second, and he's 808 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 9: gonna have to get like, you know, like an assistant like, 809 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 9: all right, you gotta book. 810 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 6: You gotta book Tommy in advance. 811 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, Edwin dis like Trumpet as I come down 812 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 7: to the store. If I got called in. 813 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I like, okay, yeah, all right, here we go. 814 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: The funny thing is the guy who sings it's called 815 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: Tommy Trumpets. Here we go, and now he has a nickname. 816 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: We like Tommy Trumpets. Here we go. 817 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 6: Hilton. 818 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 7: I've got Clark Kent, I've gotten t Y Hilton, I've 819 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 7: gotten Harry Potter, and now Tommy Trumpets. 820 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: Tommy in one week. We like nicknames around here, ye 821 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: giving people nicknames? All right, let's tell this I like that, 822 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: all right, So here we go. Here's the next question 823 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: I have for you guys. Which do you guys think 824 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: is the bigger problem for the passing offense right now? Protection, 825 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: lack of a running game, or turnovers? And that would 826 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: be dack the wide receivers, because I don't know if 827 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: you can necessarily see in those situations if it's dack 828 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: with the wide receivers, but they're off, they're off, whatever 829 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: is happening with those they're off? What do you think 830 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: is a bigger problem for the passing offense? 831 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 7: Can I pick two? 832 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 13: Sure? 833 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 6: I think? 834 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 7: Okay, I think protection, protectionant I take it in. 835 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, just. 836 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 7: Because I think they're they kind of obviously all three 837 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 7: co incide, right, I think the biggest issue, and I 838 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 7: guess that takes away the two. I would say protection. Uh, 839 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 7: you know, this is a this is a rookie heavy 840 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 7: offensive line. They've got two of the center and left 841 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 7: tackle position. Those are two of the most important positions 842 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 7: on your offensive line. Right You've got to get the 843 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 7: snap from your center, and you've got to have protection 844 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 7: on your blind side. And so when you're dealing with 845 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 7: growing pains there and guys trying to get up to 846 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 7: the NFL level, get sped up and also play some 847 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 7: really elite edge rushers here to start. Through these first 848 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 7: six games in the season, these guys have been thrown 849 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 7: right in the fire, and obviously there's going to be 850 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 7: bad reps that come with that, and we've seen that 851 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 7: from Cooper BB and Tyler Geiton and Dak Prescott then 852 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 7: forced to be on the move a little bit and 853 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 7: move outside of the pocket and make some backfoot throws. 854 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 7: I think, you know, we talked about that pass to 855 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 7: Jake Ferguson that he dropped earlier in the game. That 856 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 7: throw was off his back foot across the entire length 857 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 7: of the field. That should have been intercepted, I think. 858 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 7: And so, but that also leads to things like turnovers, 859 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 7: and more specifically, I'm going to expand and make it 860 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 7: red zone turnovers. Points are being taken off the board. 861 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 7: You've got at least three points in your back pocket 862 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 7: with a guy like Brandon Aubrey kicking field goals and 863 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott has kind of uncharacteristic Chris uncharacteristically turn the 864 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 7: ball over when the Cowboys get down there. So really, 865 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 7: I think those two jive very well, and it's something 866 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 7: that I don't need to say has to be fixed 867 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 7: it obviously that goes without saying. But you also think 868 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 7: some of those red zone turnovers have been because that 869 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 7: pocket collapses for Dak. He's got to go out and 870 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 7: try to make something happened. And some of it is 871 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 7: on Dak too. You know that that throw to CD. 872 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 7: I think he he stared CD down the whole time 873 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 7: where he had Tolbert in the flat and you kind 874 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 7: of you're supposed to look there first. That allows Brian 875 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 7: Branch to come up instead. He makes a heck of 876 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 7: a play diving in the back of the end zone. 877 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 7: But uncharacteristic start from Dak. But I think the offensive 878 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 7: line struggles are part of it too. 879 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's been the fact that that Dak 880 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 9: and See are just not on the same page is 881 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 9: a huge problem too. That I mean, and one of 882 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 9: them was at training camp, one of them wasn't, and 883 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 9: I think we all know that the situation there, but 884 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 9: but I mean, CD, I think he was somewhat ready 885 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 9: to play as far as physically, but but as far 886 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 9: as understanding what they're trying to do. Timing, the timing 887 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 9: of things just hasn't been there, and so you know, 888 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 9: you put that on both of them, really, and so 889 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 9: I'm tired of hearing Dak say that that they're not 890 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 9: practicing well. I don't understand that numerous times, you know, 891 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 9: and so that I put I'm putting that on on 892 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 9: Dak too, I mean, like like or as a leader, 893 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 9: I mean, that's part of it. He keeps calling them out, 894 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 9: but they're calling them out at the wrong you know, 895 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 9: when are you really calling them out? 896 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 6: And really who? 897 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 9: And I don't put it all on that because he 898 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 9: can practice a certain way, but he's you know, this 899 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 9: is this is a coaching thing as well. It's like 900 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 9: that this team isn't practicing well. You're getting beat on Monday, Tuesday, 901 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 9: Wednesday and Thursday of you know, of a week. 902 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: But you know, I think I think there's a lot 903 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 3: of gray area in that too. Like when you say 904 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 3: not practicing well, that could be a lot of different 905 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: sures like are you are you unfocused? Are you literally 906 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: just not performing well? Like is it just like everybody's 907 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: out there, everybody's into it, everybody's working hard, but balls 908 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 3: are on the efforts. Yeah, they're not executing well in practicing. 909 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of different gray areas on what he 910 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 3: really means why they're not practicing. Well, I'd love to 911 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 3: know that because I think that helps me understand maybe 912 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 3: where the problem is. Is it a mental problem or 913 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: is it actually they're just not very good? 914 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 9: And I have an interesting statue. I want you to finish, Yeah, 915 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 9: go to your point, but I have a stat afterwards 916 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 9: that I thought it's interesting about preparation. Right, No, Well, 917 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 9: I looked at the opening drive to start the game. 918 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 9: Cowboys first six games, both the opponent and you know, 919 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 9: their offense. To start the game, they're getting out scored 920 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 9: thirty one to six. They've only had two field goals 921 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 9: in their first six first six drives of the six games, 922 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 9: and the opponents have got thirty one points. Go to 923 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 9: the third quarter, it's thirty to nine, thirty points. They're 924 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 9: giving up only nine only only three field goals. 925 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: They're starting and finishing. 926 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 9: So sixty one to fifteen is the first drive of 927 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 9: each you know, that's when you're you're supposed to prep 928 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 9: you know, definitely start the game. And the opponent has 929 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 9: scored on every single drive to start the game, even 930 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 9: the Browns, even the Giants Pittsburgh, they've all started at 931 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 9: least a field goal. But they're driving down and they're 932 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 9: scoring points, and the other four teams are scoring touchdowns. 933 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 9: So I mean it's bad, you know, And so that's 934 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 9: a preparation thing, coaching team, whatever it is. And even 935 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 9: the third quarter's not getting fixed either, So. 936 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would want to know that too. Coming out 937 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 3: of the halftime. 938 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 6: Is it the same thing? Are yay say? 939 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 9: I might have flipp the first half I think might 940 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 9: be thirty to nine and second half of thirty one six. 941 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 9: Either way, it's one to fifteen. You're getting outscored. So 942 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 9: preparation has not been good at all. 943 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, piggybacking off of Tommy, but definitely protection. I think 944 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 8: it's you know, if you look at that Brian Branch 945 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 8: play that literally, I think that was very pivotal in 946 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 8: the whole game. I think it shifted the whole Yeah, 947 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 8: everything in that whole game, you know, And the fact 948 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 8: that you can see that Dak is looking at his 949 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 8: first read and kind of getting focused on that and 950 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 8: doesn't now look at the rest of the feel like 951 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 8: you're you know, saying with Tolbert in the flat. So 952 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 8: I think that protection and then that causes everything to 953 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 8: kind of trickle down. 954 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 5: That's a domino effect. 955 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 9: And here's another thing that I wonder about too, because 956 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 9: Dez did this too early on when Dak's career and 957 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 9: Duck was younger, Dez was the established veteran. And there 958 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 9: were times where Dez would be chirping a lot, and 959 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 9: then the next game they'd throw it to him fifteen 960 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 9: times and he catch like five or six, and it's 961 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 9: and you're forcing the ball to him. And I kind 962 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 9: of wonder if we're getting to that point now where 963 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 9: you know, you're tired of seeing and hearing the jump 964 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 9: ball deck jump ball stuff like that, where Tolbert I 965 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 9: have been the better play there, you know. And now 966 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 9: it was second down, right, I believe second down, second 967 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 9: or maybe a. 968 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 6: Third second out. So I don't know if Tilvert scores, 969 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: but it's going to be close. 970 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 9: He has to make the guy miss, but he's just 971 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 9: going you know what I mean, are you like, You're 972 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 9: like you just want to shut the guy up, So 973 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 9: let's start up, you know CD, But that's not really 974 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 9: the right play, and the other team knows it too. 975 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 9: They know that they want to throw the CD. I 976 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 9: just hope that we're not getting to that point where 977 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 9: Dak is kind of like you're just sort of forcing 978 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 9: it there when it's really not the. 979 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 6: Right place, you know. 980 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: I don't. I wouldn't think so. And the reason why 981 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so is because I think there's probably 982 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 3: twenty eight teams in the NFL where you've got a 983 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: receiver who is chirping a lot, like that's just the 984 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: nature of the position. You can't do your job, and 985 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad thing. You can't do 986 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 3: your job as a receiver unless you're getting the ball right. 987 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 3: So I think there's probably all these guys are playing 988 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 3: in NFL played the wide receiver position like hey man, 989 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm open, I'm open, get me the ball. I'm open. 990 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: Like that's that's just the nature of wide receivers. Probably 991 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 3: starting at high school, get me the ball, the ball, 992 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 3: give me the ball. Quarterback grows immune to that, Like 993 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think the good quarterbacks like it's like, yeah, 994 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: I got you, bro, I see you over there. We're good. 995 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 3: I just hope that that's not I wouldn't think that 996 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: that would be something that would change how Dak approaches 997 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: the game. 998 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 6: Well also too. 999 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 9: I'm sorry to cut you off at the time point, 1000 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 9: but I mean it's fifty three yards, that's how wide 1001 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 9: it is. Why we have the guys too close together? 1002 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 9: Why could one guy cover Tolbert and CD and then 1003 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 9: the other play where schoon Maker and well somebody are just. 1004 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 3: That's the difficulty of the red zone, right, that's the 1005 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 3: difficulty of the red zone. It's what you always tell 1006 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: me when we're watching the game and it's first and 1007 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 3: goal at the nine or first and goal at to ten, 1008 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: you're like field goal because the field is compressed and 1009 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: now a guy that's that's covering the flat can also 1010 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 3: cover the back of the end zone. That that's the 1011 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: problem is you got a compressed field. 1012 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 9: It's just wondering why see Trayvon Diggs is playing ten 1013 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 9: yards off the ball on the on a play like. 1014 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 3: That was the question. We're going to look to that later. 1015 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 3: Sorry that we're going to get to that. Why are 1016 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 3: you killing all? Sorry? All right? That did everybody get 1017 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: chance to answer it? 1018 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 6: Yes? 1019 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, good, all right. I don't know if 1020 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 3: we have time, but we're going to dive into this 1021 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 3: question real quick, and this isn't a quick question, but 1022 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna try anyway. Name the five best offensive linemen 1023 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: on this team. 1024 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll start Smith. Okay, you guys got. 1025 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 5: So Zach Martin, but he's just not playing at the 1026 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame level. 1027 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 8: He isn't. 1028 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 5: He's trailing off, but. 1029 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 6: He's got to be You're right, he's not playing well. 1030 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 6: He's still it was. 1031 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 3: Now the rough one's the roughest I've seen you. No, 1032 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 3: absolutely right, No, no, no, you don't have an answer. I 1033 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 3: said that yesterday on our show. I was like, that 1034 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 3: was as rough of a game as it ever seen 1035 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: from Zach Martin. And quite frankly, this season has not 1036 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 3: been the traditional Zach Martin. Now, he did pop up 1037 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 3: on the injury report last week, and that to me 1038 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 3: could make some sense. Is this a situation where he's 1039 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: he's just he's trying to gut one out on the 1040 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 3: team and that's why we saw what we saw on Sunday, 1041 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 3: But that was not now. 1042 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 8: And he gave up seven pressure I think ten pressures 1043 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 8: all year last year. 1044 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's It's not Cooper Bebe. 1045 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 9: I think it's been I mean I know we're greating 1046 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 9: on a curve a little bit because he's a rookie, 1047 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 9: but I still think he's played pretty much. 1048 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 8: That's on his position. 1049 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 3: The one thing I would say is I think there 1050 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 3: are two things for me. One, I think when it 1051 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: comes to like twists and stunts, I think sometimes he's 1052 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: a little like trying to figure it out. And the 1053 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: second part is he seems to be a tick late 1054 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 3: consistently when he's trying to get to the second level. 1055 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 3: He kind of like gets that first, you know, initial block. 1056 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: He doesn't trust I'm going to pass this guy off 1057 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 3: and just go to the second level. He's kind of 1058 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 3: there a little too long, and then doesn't really get 1059 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: there in time to be able to make that second 1060 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 3: level block that sometimes could spring a run that's important 1061 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: in the run game. That's the area I want to 1062 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: see him develop. But I also think that's something you 1063 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: can get better at. Over time, he'll get a better 1064 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: feel that also works with The more they this line 1065 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 3: works together, the more he'll know I can trust that 1066 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 3: once I get a nice shove on this guy, I'm 1067 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 3: up to the second level and I can trust my 1068 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 3: to do that. I think those are the kind of 1069 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: things that are just about time. 1070 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 7: If that is the worst problem you've got with a 1071 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 7: rookie center, right, I think you take that ten ten 1072 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 7: times because that stuff that comes with those reps. 1073 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 6: Right. 1074 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 7: As far as the five best, I think the five 1075 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 7: best guys that are going to give you a chance 1076 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 7: to win long term, Tyler Goeiton, Tyler Smith, Cooper bb 1077 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 7: Zach Martin, and Terrence Steele. I mean, I understand that 1078 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 7: they've had their struggles to start the year. I understand that, 1079 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 7: you know, you look at moving Tyler Smith back to 1080 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 7: tackle and TJ Basson at left guard, you're kind of like, Okay, 1081 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 7: maybe that can work. I think that if you get 1082 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 7: your rookies the snaps they need. And I completely agree 1083 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 7: with Mike McCarthy because it's worked for him in the past. 1084 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 7: It worked for him in Green Bay, it's worked for 1085 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 7: him everywhere he's been where playing a lot of young 1086 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 7: guys eventually is going to look really good. And I 1087 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 7: know you guys have talked about it on the show 1088 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 7: and on the Draft Show, where you know, two years 1089 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 7: from now, we may not look at Tyler Garten and say, Okay, 1090 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 7: this guy was one of the better picks in the 1091 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 7: first round of the draft. But four years and it's 1092 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 7: time for that fifty year contract talk, you're gonna say, Okay, yeah, 1093 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 7: this is a guy who definitely needs it because he's 1094 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 7: going to be playing really well. 1095 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 9: And that's the problem that this coaching staff has and 1096 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy has. It's like you just said it twice. 1097 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 9: You said long term and then you said four years 1098 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 9: from now, Well, who's the coach? Then who's the head 1099 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 9: coach for this? So do you just say, hey, this 1100 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 9: will be good, let's you know, I'll deal with the 1101 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 9: growing pains now, and then I'll probably get fired, you know, 1102 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 9: like if that happens, if they don't win games, And 1103 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 9: so it's like that's the problem. Do you play the 1104 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 9: five best that will help you meet the forty nine 1105 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 9: ers for the five best to develop? 1106 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 6: And that's where. 1107 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 9: Ownership and head coach sometimes will have difference of opinion 1108 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 9: because one of them is definitely going to be here 1109 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 9: and one of them has to win to stay here. 1110 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 7: Right, But at the nature coaching right at the same time, 1111 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 7: if you don't have continuity with the five guys that 1112 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 7: you've got up front, it's only going to get worse. 1113 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 7: And you know, the five that they've trotted out on 1114 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 7: Sunday is not a bad unit. But if they haven't 1115 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 7: practiced together, if they haven't played together for long, yeah, 1116 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 7: then you're still kind of dealing with the same time. 1117 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 9: I'm with you, though, I I agree with you about 1118 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 9: Guidon long term, but I think Goton can win with 1119 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 9: I think you win with Guyton now too. I really 1120 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 9: do his his things is technique, his hands, Like he's 1121 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 9: got to figure out how to hold properly. 1122 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 6: Everybody holds, just do it in a way where you 1123 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 6: don't get called. You have to figure out a way 1124 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 6: to hold the right way. You know, you got to. 1125 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 6: You got to learn how to cheat better. And then 1126 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 6: he'll do that and then and he's. 1127 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 8: Going to get stronger. So you can tell, like his 1128 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 8: core is balance, he's off, he's not under speaking times. 1129 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 5: You know, his balance is off, and that's all going 1130 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 5: to come. 1131 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he has to play. 1132 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 9: I mean, I still think, I still think those five 1133 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 9: would would be better for for for multiple reasons. You're 1134 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 9: trying to win, but you're also trying to build them. 1135 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 9: You got to build his confidence. 1136 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 6: He can't go. I think he has to play. 1137 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: But the one thing I will say is on Sunday, 1138 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 3: at least most of the problems from a protection standpoint 1139 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 3: appear to come from the right hand side of the ker, 1140 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: And so that's where I'm like, are you Are you 1141 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 3: better off in a situation where right now, I would say, 1142 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: right now TJ. Bass is a better guard than guiding 1143 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 3: is a tackle, And because of that, it might be 1144 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 3: something where if you have to if you're trying to 1145 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 3: win right now and trying to just get some get 1146 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 3: some steadiness coming from this offensive line, that should be 1147 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 3: worth the consideration. Now I think it does stunt you. 1148 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 3: Long term, I think it does, and so that's where 1149 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 3: you have to, Like you're saying, Nick, what happens that 1150 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 3: becomes an interesting question, are you interested in possibly We 1151 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: talked about this on the break yesterday. Are you interested 1152 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 3: in possibly taking Guidon who played right tackle in college 1153 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 3: and now flipping him over to the other side With 1154 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: Terrence still struggled quite a bit. 1155 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 9: Romo used to say it all the time to th 1156 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 9: right tackle, don't hold I'll see I see him. I'll 1157 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 9: see him. You can don't hold him because I'll make 1158 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 9: him miss. He could also see the backside too, which 1159 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 9: is kind of weird. 1160 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 3: To everything. 1161 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 9: But what I saying, that might be a better situation 1162 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 9: there too. Steal Steele's got probably some issues too, But 1163 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know. I mean, maybe this is 1164 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 9: the week to do that kind of stuff. 1165 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's an interest. I think 1166 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 3: it's something interesting to think about. I don't think that's 1167 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,959 Speaker 3: what the Cowboys will do. I think ultimately they're gonna 1168 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 3: put guiding back in there. I don't think he was 1169 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 3: ready to play last week. I think that's why he 1170 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: was out. I think coming out of the buy, I 1171 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 3: expect him to go back to the line that they 1172 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 3: had to start the season. And I think they're gonna 1173 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: roll with that and they're gonna watch those guys development. 1174 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 3: By the way, it might all work, question is does 1175 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 3: it work fast enough you need it to be working now? 1176 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 3: The problem is it gonna work fast enough to where 1177 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 3: you get those rookies really integrated to where they're playing 1178 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 3: at their best level. And Steal can get back to 1179 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 3: some consistency because he's had it at certain points in 1180 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 3: his careers where he's been a consistently good player. Can 1181 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 3: he get back to that? And then you know, obviously 1182 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 3: things settle in a little bit for everybody else in 1183 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 3: the offensive line starts working all right. Appreciate you guys 1184 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 3: joing us. We'll be back on tomorrow. We got so 1185 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 3: many more questions to get through. We'll see how fast 1186 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 3: we get through them tomorrow. For Nick Keaman uh and 1187 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 3: for Tom Yars, Bonnie Joe Laughlin. Thank you guys for 1188 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 3: joining us. We'll be back tomorrow on the break. 1189 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1190 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club show 1191 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 7: H