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Speaker 1: It's The Fred Show. Good Morning everybody. Tuesday, The Fred

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Speaker 1: Show is on. Hello, Christie Morney, Hello, Kaylin, good morning, Rufie.

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Speaker 1: That's shot Thought, Rufi thank you, Okay, appreciate it, thank you. Hi,

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Speaker 1: good morning for sorry. I'll call you shot thought now

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Speaker 1: Hi Thought. Hey, that's people better know where that insight

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Speaker 1: got the vaccine? Yesterday? Red calling you Rufio thought, um

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Speaker 1: h Hi Fred morning owner dot com. Let's welcome Camila

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Speaker 1: to the show to stay here. Go Hi, Camila, how

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Speaker 1: are you? Hi? Guys, I'm doing good, Camila. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: hear about your relationship issue here. This is the part

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Speaker 1: of the show. Every Tuesday we do this where we

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Speaker 1: we hear out um some issue that someone's having, and

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Speaker 1: then we um we sit around the room and talk

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Speaker 1: about you, basically behind your back because we hang up

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Speaker 1: show might fine h three five. So what is the

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Speaker 1: situation that you're encountering? All right, So I've been with

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Speaker 1: I recently went to go visit him at work to

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Speaker 1: I found out that he's actually the receptionist there. Oh

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, And you know, we've been dating for two

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Speaker 1: so this dude comes home Kamila and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing wrong with answering the phone at a dentist's

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, no. But that's not the point.

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Speaker 1: The point is that this guy told you he was

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Speaker 1: So I got there and he was running the front desk,

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Speaker 1: But then the hygienist came out and was like handing

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Speaker 1: Like that's like me saying I'm the program director of

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Speaker 1: and so you say that to him, right, You're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: He just told me that he started because he wanted

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Speaker 1: My vote and we can go around the room. My

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Christy, what else could he potentially be

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Speaker 1: call him doctor in bed? That's even worse. Rufio stare

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Speaker 1: What was that? That really bad? Uh? God? There were

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Speaker 1: He tried to kill her daughter, right, so watch your kid.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for for telling you a story. A Maggie,

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Speaker 1: I'm Maggie. What the hell I mean? Do you stay

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Speaker 1: with a guy like this? I mean, honestly, like, my

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Speaker 1: Thanks for Colin. Thanks for listening. Uh Andrew Andrew, good morning, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey man, welcome, stay or go. This guy's been lying

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Speaker 1: for two years about being a dentist. He's actually he's

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Speaker 1: not even a hygienist or any He doesn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: I say it doesn't do anything. He doesn't work on patience,

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Speaker 1: he answers the phone. Thinks he's got to go. Man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're two years in. They got to start

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Speaker 1: be playing the future. He's making fifty thousand less than

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder what kind of car he drives.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it says dds on the license plan, he's driving

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Speaker 1: A great day, guys. I'd been looking at the quality

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. Stair go definitely go. I have my

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Speaker 1: Um let's go to Anna. Apparently Anna, this is like

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Have a great day for going, Chris.

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Speaker 1: You got to come up with a different strategy. Then

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Speaker 1: many different duties. Have any of you ever voluntarily given

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Speaker 1: there might still be an email somewhere that I don't

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Speaker 1: give the password too. I don't think you need everything, No,

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Speaker 1: I bring this up because and you sent me this.

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Speaker 1: This is from express VP and a virtual private network service.

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Speaker 1: We all know that sharing is important in a relationship,

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Speaker 1: but you may want to hold back on one area passwords.

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Speaker 1: According to new research, forty percent of people regret sharing

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Speaker 1: their passwords with their partner in their last relationship. Two

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Speaker 1: I actually have a story My best friend shared her

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00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: password with her boyfriend and I had sent were fighting

421
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 1: the time my sunter an article, Oh if you should

422
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: break up with your boyfriend, and he found it, and

423
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: then she called me, ling at me. Why would you

424
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: send me something like that? And I was like, why

425
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: would you share your password with your boyfriend? Yeah? Right?

426
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 1: Because that's the other thing is if you're having conversations

427
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 1: with people that I don't know the full context of

428
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: and then I read part parts of it, then I'm

429
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: gonna have it. Yeah, you should be like that person

430
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: because there's no reason if you trust that person, there's

431
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: no reason for that other person to go through your phone,

432
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: right the text conversations? Yeah, friends, come on, everyone knows

433
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: who's just sitting next to them and you look over,

434
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, you look while you're watching TV. Come on now.

435
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: I think the other thing is if somebody, if someone

436
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: demanded that of me, then I wouldn't do it. That's

437
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if if I volunteer it to you,

438
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: that's different. But but if I don't give it to you,

439
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I have something to hide. It means

440
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: maybe I like to have my some some semblance of

441
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: privacy in my life. You should still have it, Vanessa,

442
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: thank you, have a great day, Thanks for listening. Hey Loupe,

443
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: Hey Loupe, good morning. Are you down to give your

444
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: password out to people you're dating? I'll before I answer

445
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: that question, I wanted to comment it. You guys, I do.

446
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: Thank you. Don't get me wrong, but you and Rupee

447
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: Paula you can have a nice fight. Thank you. I

448
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: know you guys, we're gonna talk about trying to get

449
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: somebody else. No, even the way it is, okay, it works,

450
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: it works, okay, good, well, thank you. No, yeah, we uh,

451
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: we're pleasantly surprised that we've been able to stay keep

452
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: the lights on. It's no, it's really exciting. But Loupe,

453
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: thank you. Know it feels good. It feels good to

454
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: hear that m from people who've been listening for a while.

455
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. So okay, so let's talk

456
00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,239
Speaker 1: about your password? No? Hell no, okay, hell no, you're

457
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: not giving it out? Why No, I'm fifty three years old.

458
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: I lived a very shady light and no, no, no,

459
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: none of yours don't want to no, no, okay, So

460
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: I would never ever, ever, ever, are you still leading

461
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: a shady life or is it just that you no, no, no,

462
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: I I grew up, you know, so now I'm responsible, don't.

463
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: But back in my twenties and thirties, I was a

464
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Speaker 1: very bad boy and I hell I would not let

465
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: my wife. Okay, okay, all right, but the memory I

466
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: don't want to share with you. Just a general rule,

467
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: just you're not doing it? Is there still evidence of

468
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: that though? Like that's why I have a private laptop

469
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: and it's it's just I did something I used to

470
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: be a kid trip and before the digitally, I took

471
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: some strippers Stone. We had a great day. He's like,

472
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you I took some services in Mexico. Yeah,

473
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't want my wife to have my passworduse what

474
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: she's gonna see Mexico strippers in Mexico. Howbody took the

475
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: moloroid picture of men and uh one of the uh

476
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: and we're both making on this donkey than you got.

477
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: This happened before the dictionally, But I'll find myself were

478
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: you riding a donkey or like, how did the donkey

479
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: get involved? I don't know, I don't know what the

480
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: donkey was doing we were didn't hurt that poor donkey.

481
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: We're in the Mexicut and had a donkey there and

482
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: you enjoying me. I dare you take a picture with me?

483
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm donkey? Yeah, sure, we gonna do it. Make it okay, okay?

484
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we finished up a bottle of my sky.

485
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was I was a freaky thing. So yeah, yeah,

486
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that's before you met your wife. You're good now, Yeah,

487
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: that's true. That's no, no, no too. I mean, come on,

488
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's a great story. I'd be telling that

489
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: every bay. That's a fun life. That would you? I

490
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: would you feel a significant other? Frid? Sure? Password have

491
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: you find something? If I'm married to a woman and

492
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: I find a picture of her naked on a donkey

493
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: and a strip club in Mexico, I will have some questions.

494
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. That's like first date material.

495
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to talk about that on the

496
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: first date. That's like, Yo, you ever ride a donkey

497
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: naked in Mexico? I did you are a bad boy? Loupe?

498
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: If that's what you're willing to talk about on the radio,

499
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: that I can't imagine what else is on that private

500
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: laptop of yours? I am obsessed with here you have

501
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: you ever heard of old woman? I have of what

502
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: an old woman? Oh my god, I haven't I gotta okay,

503
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I don't know. I'm not sure where

504
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: we gotta go. Thank you. Have a good day, Loupe.

505
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: All right, you're yeah, okay about whoa. He's one of

506
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: those guys like his wife wasn't listening. Yes, my wife,

507
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't want her to know. And then he tells us.

508
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, Jesus, I love that guy. God, his

509
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: past was probably like naked donkey or something. I'm not

510
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: going to talk about that anyway. You know, I was naked,

511
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm a donkey whatever. Okay, you know. I mean, if

512
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: it happened before he met the person he's married to,

513
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: then he's not even bad like I thought. It was

514
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: like some kind of criminal someone oh something, tells me

515
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: that's not where it is. But a night like that

516
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't usually just end with the nake dog. Everybody knows

517
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: that hangover. He's like the story of the Hangover right there,

518
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: the pictures at the end of the movie. A manuscript. Yeah,

519
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: good lord, that's not where sun I go. He started

520
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: with a critique on our program, and then yeah, I

521
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: will never tell my wife. Then I went to Mexico,

522
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: which strippers. I got a lot of questions. Was there

523
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: a saddle would be very uncomfortable for the girl? Donkey?

524
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: Yea uncomfortable that poor donkey by the way, in the

525
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: old Lady, I don't want. I don't know where that story.

526
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: I had to hit the aboard, but I'm like, all right, dude,

527
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: And then no, I'm not gonna let you talk anymore.

528
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm crazy. One or three five Kiss FM,

529
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: Chicago's number one hit music station, Good Morning, It's the

530
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Friend Show. Um. Couples who dated for at least three

531
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: years before getting engaged are thirty nine percent less likely

532
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: to get divorced than couples who dated less than a

533
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: year before getting engaged, according to the right. This is

534
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: from the Social Science Research Network. Couples who dated for

535
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: one to two years before their engagement were twenty percent

536
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: less likely to divorce than couples who dated under a year.

537
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Numbers shoots up to thirty nine percent when you tack

538
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: on another year of dating. A therapist and author says

539
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: that those who only dated briefly before marriage were more

540
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: likely in therapy to admit that they have not known

541
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: each other well enough to have made such a serious commitment.

542
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: How long did you date Rufio A long time? Seven

543
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: years or seven years before? Yeah, before we got engaged.

544
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: And I would say, if even if you're doing like,

545
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: even if you're under whatever the two years if you

546
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: get engaged, I would live together first before you even

547
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: getting married. Like that's huge because if you get married,

548
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: then you move in together and then you don't know

549
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: their tendencies when you're living to end their home, they

550
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: could be the messiest person in the world. Well, I've

551
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: heard the argument that you shouldn't live together before you

552
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: get married, and then my argument would be, well, if

553
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: you if you live with someone and that is the

554
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: purpose of the demise, at least you came up with

555
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: that solution, or you came up with that before you

556
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: got married, right, And then people would say, well, if

557
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you're married, then you'd be less likely for something that

558
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: trivial to end the marriage. But I mean, we're talking

559
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: about lifetime commitment here, so I think statistically though, it

560
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: is better to not live together before. That's crazy. I

561
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: know that's all what the stats always say, which I

562
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: can't understand. Well, I don't know if any of this

563
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I according to this it matters. But I kind of

564
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: wonder because I know people who have dated for a

565
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: very very long time, lived together. They go, okay, let's

566
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: go get married. They go real fast, justice, they have

567
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a big it doesn't matter. Now they're married, nothing has changed, Yeah,

568
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: and then the relationship falls support that too, And I

569
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: think it's a mental thing more than anything else. It's

570
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: gotta be. I mean, I wouldn't know, but I gotta

571
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: think that somehow the thing, the only thing that changed

572
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: was this piece of paper and this commitment that you

573
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: already probably made anyway. So I don't know, but I

574
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: wonder from from people listening now it's five five one

575
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: h three five would you would you agree based on

576
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: your experience that if you lived together and date and

577
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: live together wasn't part of this. But if you, if

578
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: you date and let's say, lived together for a while

579
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: before getting married, that you're more likely to have a

580
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: successful marriage than if you only dated for a short

581
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: time and got married. I don't know. I mean, none

582
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: of us, Well you're married, but seven years that I

583
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: can't believe you got away with that. Yeah, well, yeah,

584
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: I would have what we were talking about this last week,

585
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: actually I would I would have waited longer because Jess's

586
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: sister and her husband they got they took like twelve

587
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: years to get engaged. And I was like, oh, I

588
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: got a few more years, and she's like, nope, you

589
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: got seven. And I was like, I really, I literally

590
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: did engage. Got engaged two days before the seven year

591
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: deadline cut off. I know part of it was financial,

592
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: but like you know, you were saving money or it

593
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: was Yeah, it was mainly financial. Is you know it's smart,

594
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: it's expensive, Like I didn't think I was. I couldn't

595
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: afford a ring at the time, and and I just

596
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: wanted to do it the right way. I didn't want

597
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: to just get into dead and be like all right,

598
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I just butter ring and then what and then we're

599
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: engaged for four more years because I have to save

600
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: for her wedding. So yeah, but that doesn't take seven years.

601
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: So what do you think, like the first when do

602
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: you think when did it come up the idea that

603
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: you would marry Jess? I mean, I feel like I

604
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: knew right away that that Jess was the one. It's

605
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: just you know, like we were both living at home

606
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: at the time, and then we and then we moved

607
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: in together, and then it was just it was timing,

608
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: like working here. You know, I wasn't in the place

609
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: that I wanted to be at, you know what I'm saying.

610
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: So like I was still trying to make my way

611
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: up here at the radio station, and there was a

612
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: lot of sacrifices, and then she stuck through it all

613
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: and and then you know, I know, it's nothing wrong

614
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: with that because you know, obviously it works for you guys,

615
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: And I just I wonder like, sometimes do you feel

616
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: like she and I don't. I don't know. Maybe you

617
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: guys the girls in the room that know her know this,

618
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: but do you feel like she did the timing work

619
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: for her too? I mean, you said she put a

620
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: deadline on it, but like it was like a joking life.

621
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: But I mean it was she like enough is enough?

622
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Or or was it like was everybody kind of okay

623
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: with the way it was going? Yeah, just because you know,

624
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: like our friends were all getting gaged at the same

625
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: time and getting married at the same time, so I

626
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: felt like it was the right time. It was mainly

627
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: for me to be financially stable to do it, you know,

628
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: and being debt just to buy this ring. Yeah, well

629
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: that's good that she shared that value too, because I

630
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: know people who don't share those values. I also know

631
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: people who have used that as an excuse, Oh we

632
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: don't have enough money yet, you gotta go out, and

633
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: it's like, but do you ever plan to do this

634
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: kind of thing? But it's good that you share that value. Ashley, Hi,

635
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: good morning, Hi, welcome to the show. Thanks for listening.

636
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: So this thing says that the law, but basically that

637
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: you have a better chance in the successful marriage if

638
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: you date longer than shorter. What do you think? I

639
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: don't think that's true. My husband and I were actually

640
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: together for just nine months before we got engaged, and

641
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: we've been together for four and a half now tomorrow's

642
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: actually a two year anniversary. But we also lift together

643
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: like oh, week into us dating. I really don't think

644
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: any of that's true. Do you think you got lucky

645
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: or do you think I mean, because when you look

646
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: at other people, do you see the same kind of success?

647
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean nine months is

648
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: like that's a thoughtful period of time, Like if you

649
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: tell me after thirty days we got engaged, then I

650
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: would say that that was impulsive. But nine months is

651
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: a responsible, thoughtful period. How old are you. I'm twenty five,

652
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Oh so you're pretty young. Yeah, because I think I

653
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: think of the older you get the short of the

654
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: engagement period. Like if I at thirty nine, if I

655
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: met someone and within a year got engaged, I think

656
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: that's a whole lot more reasonable than and probably realistic

657
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: than when I was twenty five. So glad that it

658
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: worked for you, But I feel like at this point

659
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: in my life, I don't probably need multiple years to

660
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: figure it out, hopefully because it either works or it doesn't.

661
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, we had actually we had a couple

662
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: of friends all get married the same year that we did.

663
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: You were the ones that were engaged the quickness. We

664
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: had another group of friends that's been together for like

665
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: over ten years. They actually got to force within a year.

666
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: So we lucky. But do you think it helped because

667
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: you said you guys moved in like after a weekend?

668
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: If data, do you think dad helped obviously being together,

669
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: living together and being a short amount of time that

670
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: you guys are still together now? If agree that you

671
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: need to live with somebody before like if we're if

672
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: we're going to break up over because I see both

673
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: sides of the argument, right, if you're going to break

674
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: up over something as trivial as dishes in the sink

675
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: or I don't know, um bathroom, that I can see

676
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: then that it isn't the right relationship. I could also

677
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: see that if you made this lifelong commitment and you're

678
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: married now, then then you'd be forced to work that out.

679
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: So I see both sides of the argument, like, well, well,

680
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: if it's that fragile, you shouldn't be married, slash, that's

681
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: too fragile to break up. If you're married and you

682
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: just you deal with the problem, that you'll run from it.

683
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: But people run from it either way. I feel like, so,

684
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: thank you, Ashley, have a good day. Thank you. I

685
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: love you too. You know there's something else to this.

686
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: There's something else to the idea of like a long

687
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: relationship that's the unmarried relationship and then getting married. There's

688
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: something to that because when I think we're gonna hear

689
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: some stories about it too. But it's like I feel like,

690
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: if you're together with someone and you're happy for a

691
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: long time, unmarried. Maybe you should just keep it that way. Yeah,

692
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: And if your values are different, then so be it.

693
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: But I feel like after a very long period of time,

694
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: I've heard about it more than once. People together, it's

695
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: six seven years, they get married, that's done two years later.

696
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: How can that be? Yeah? I think about it because

697
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I do know people who have done that too, And

698
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: I wonder is it just a mind thing? Like does

699
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: something just shift? So I wonder if there should be

700
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: like after five years of dating. Then don't get me,

701
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: they just just like, okay, we're together forever or like whatever.

702
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Don't change a thing yet. Hey Bob, yesod morning Bob.

703
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: How you doing what you want to say? What wasn't?

704
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: I'll thank you. I've been on the show before. I'm Bob.

705
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm one of you jeriatric listeners. Oh my wife, How

706
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: old are you, Bob? I'll be sixty two next months.

707
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: We love you, Bob, thank you, We love you guys

708
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: for sure. I don't think so. I don't know you're

709
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: not anyways. Yeah, but in stage, Bob, is what we

710
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: like to say. Here comes the wisdom, go ahead, here

711
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: comes the fun part. Retirement is what it is. I

712
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: can't wait and I yeah, yeah, my wife and I

713
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: have been together. We lived together for sixteen years before

714
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: we decided to get married. We've been together for thirty

715
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: seven years now. Okay, I love her just as much

716
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: as I did day one as I do now. It's

717
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: just fantastic living with her for all of those here,

718
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: as you really know, somebody hitsight out. So just sixteen years, Bob,

719
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: because you just defied the logic that I just shared.

720
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: So after sixteen years, why do you decide then? Okay,

721
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: now we're gonna rot the boat here? Well, after we

722
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: built our second home, we decided maybe we should do

723
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: something about that. Good for you. But because of again,

724
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: we don't we hear these stories about people who they

725
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: together for a long time and then they go and

726
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: they change that dynamic and then things kind of fall apart. Come,

727
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I want you together that long you're basically married, I mean,

728
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: really is the thief of joy. So don't compare. Everyone's

729
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: on their own path, Bob, Right, that's it. That's it.

730
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: You got to do what's good for you. Bob. You're fantastic. Word.

731
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: We love you. Thanks for killing call any time, Thanks

732
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: for listening. Enjoy respiring, Enjoy retiring. I just bought one

733
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: of your favorite cars. What'd you buy a Corvette? Oh?

734
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: You know what? But you what did you buy? What?

735
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: You bought it? Didn't you? This? This is my third Corvette.

736
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: This is t Yeah, you bought it. Those are sweet,

737
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: by the way. But here's the difference. When you're thirty

738
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: and you buy twenty twenty Corvettes because you have a

739
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: small penis when you're sixty two, it's because you're the

740
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: man and you've earned it. All right, Bob, have a

741
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: good day. Thank you. Young people don't drive young. I'm sorry,

742
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: they're very very cool, but young people know as a

743
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: retirement car. Yeah, Bob deserves it, he earned it. But

744
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I love him too. Hey, Myra, Hey, what's going on?

745
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: And come through? Come through us? Yeah, I want I

746
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: want to hear your perspective. But just to recap if

747
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: you're just tuning in, Um, this is the research. Couples

748
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: who dated for at least three years before getting engaged

749
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: are forty percent less likely to get divorced in couples

750
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: who did it less than a year. What do you think? Yeah?

751
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: I would agree. Me and my husband dated on and offering, hey,

752
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: like two years, um, and then we dated for three years.

753
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: We lived together that entire time before we got engaged,

754
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: and we've been married three years, so I agree. Well,

755
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: having to live with someone um make the whole difference.

756
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: If we had not lived together and then moved in

757
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: right as you got married, I don't know. We both

758
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: our arty people, Okay, all right, so you and stuff, Yeah,

759
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: you continue to work it out. And another thing too,

760
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: just it's not just a piece of paper I'll share

761
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: with you, just a little bit more of like the

762
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: the formal stuff, right, like having like benefits together, and

763
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: then if you're gonna have kids, you know, I have

764
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: spousal stuff like all that stuffobs. So it's just good.

765
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: It's not just a paper. But like if you were

766
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: to get sick and I'm not like your spouse, I

767
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: might not be allowed to go see him right and

768
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: toether and call mingling, you know, or maybe not call

769
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: mngland funds but contributing to the same things, and then

770
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah, yeah, sure, you know, mortgages. We've just

771
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: bought our second house. Our cards are together, like insurance, benefits,

772
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: kids all their stuff. Makes it that much easier when

773
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: you're married. I self like that piece of paper. But

774
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: now we're we're in it for the longer and he's

775
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: not the one anywhere because I find Hi. Thank you, Mara,

776
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: I have a great day. Thanks, love you too, Thanks

777
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: for listening. Hey Reggie, Yes, Hi, Hey, you're saying, do

778
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: not live together before marriage? No? No, Well I was

779
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: dating my husband for seven years. We never lived together,

780
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and then we got married and we've been together for

781
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: seven years married, So I feel like it's just a

782
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: tolerance if you don't know their habits. Are you willing

783
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: to sacrifice and because the person is a nice person

784
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: and a kind hearted person, or are you going to

785
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: get mad at like you said, you know, there's a

786
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: bunch of dishes in the things, right? Or he the

787
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: underwear on the floor. Yes, two schools of thought. Right,

788
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Either this is going to work out because we're married

789
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: and we're going to work through these problems as opposed

790
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: to running or right, or if it was that fragile

791
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: to begin with, we shouldn't have gotten married exactly because

792
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: we literally did not even live I mean, we didn't

793
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: live together at all. Like I knew it habit, I mean,

794
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: he was a mess. Okay, you knew what you were

795
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: getting into though, Yeah I did. I did, and honestly,

796
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: the first year was really hard. I'm not gonna lie

797
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, you are such

798
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: a mess and you just take up your underwear and

799
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: put it underwear. What does he just walk in a

800
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: room and just strip down and just yep, that's yep,

801
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. Okay, exactly so anyway, but

802
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, you have to tolerate it. I feel like

803
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: people if they've been around the block a lot and

804
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: they've seen other people, they're like, well, maybe we can

805
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: do something better when they live together. And I feel

806
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: like that maybe why they won't get married, or they're

807
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: like I can handle this, okay, So I feel like

808
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: it's a mental thing. Thank you. We were together for

809
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: seven years, so you're gonna know there. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah,

810
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Have a great day, good week. Okay.

811
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: We got to the Entertainment Report next in the support

812
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: to thank you for all these calls. By the way,

813
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any there's I didn't walk away

814
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: with any more logic than before. Situation, no steadfast rule

815
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: about this, I guess. So thanks for the confusing Fred

816
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,440
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817
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,120
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818
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,040
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819
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: Show is on. Hello, Christy, Good morning, Ruffee, Good morning, Paulina,

820
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Good morning. Own a bonus here via Shelley was here?

821
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: What she's doing? One of these days, I'm gonna push

822
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: the Shelly button and we're gonna hear what she's watching. Shelley,

823
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: she's not there, so she's not there. One of these

824
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: days I'm gonna push the button because her computer is

825
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: what I guess is like transmitting to us and I

826
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: can hear her log on every morning, like do you

827
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: know whatever? So one of these days I'm gonna push

828
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: the button. Is gonna be like handsome blaring or something

829
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: like that. Waiting by the phone one or second day

830
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: for this couple. We'll get to that in two minutes,

831
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: one oh three five. Thank you so much for waking

832
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: up with us. It's the Friend Show in the morning.

833
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Why were you left waiting by the phone by Tiffany,

834
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to our show. Waiting by the phone

835
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: is what we call this. Of course, tell us about

836
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: this guy who you want on a day with tell

837
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Us all about you know, the day and where things are. Now, okay, sorry,

838
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: like you guy in ten and I've been waiting on

839
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: a double day because my best friend is single two

840
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: And so I met this guy and I was like,

841
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: let's go on a double eights to bring one of

842
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: your single friends. And he was like, oh, I don't

843
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: really have that many single friends, but I'll like see

844
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: whom three and see who hangs I can't get. And

845
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: so he shows up to the date and he didn't

846
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: have any friends that he could bring, and so it's

847
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: just the three of us. But you know, he and

848
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: my best friends were like, okay, well let's this hang

849
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: out like this is three of us. And we had

850
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: a great time. We had a few streaks, we ended

851
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: up thinking whine at his place. You know, all three

852
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: of us had a really really fun time in the

853
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: I mean, how much how much fun are we talking?

854
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: So hold on, oh I need, I need. You're talking

855
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: very quickly and I need to make sure I understand this.

856
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: So you you met this guy and you were like,

857
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: I'd love to go out with you, but I want to,

858
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's do a double day. So he

859
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: brings somebody for your friend. You go, the four of

860
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: you go out. It doesn't work out that way. It

861
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: wounds up being the one guy you and your friend

862
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: that goes well, We wind up back at his place

863
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: that goes well, How well did that go? Really well?

864
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Like we both really liked him a lot. We had

865
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: so much fun, but I mean like that much fun,

866
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: like like from on a scale of one to fun. Yeah,

867
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: it was fun. Oh wow, Oh okay, fun for him

868
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, okay, okay, so that happens, and then

869
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: now he's ghosted both of you. Yeah, neither of us

870
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: has heard of workfront house. Huh. All right, well I

871
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: can't I can't wait to call this guy. So we're

872
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna call him in just a second. And I know

873
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: this is very exciting. We're gonna call him and see

874
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: we can figure out what's going on with this dude. Um.

875
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: I would think he would prioritize this on his schedule,

876
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe not so. Um, hang on for a second,

877
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: we'll call him. We'll see what kind of info we

878
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: can get for you. Okay, Okay, we're gonna find out

879
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: what's going on. Part two of Waiting by the phone

880
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: in three minutes. Right after Olivia Rodrigo driver's license on

881
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: the Fred Show one h three five Olivia Rodrigo one

882
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: O three five Kiss FM, Chicago number one hit music station,

883
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Fred Show. Good morning, Hey Tiffany, Hey, all right, welcome back.

884
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Let's call this guy Jacob, who you apparently had a

885
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: double date, but it was him and you and your

886
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: friend Um and it wasn't supposed to go that way,

887
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: but that's how it went. And then you wind up

888
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: back at his place and you guys all hook up,

889
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: which you know we're reading between the lines here, but

890
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: all three of you sort of are in the mix,

891
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: and then now he's ghosting both of you, and you

892
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: both want to know why. Yeah, okay, we're gonna call

893
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: him now. Good luck. It's this Jacob. Yeah, hey Jacob,

894
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: Morning Fred and Kaylyn and Rufio Fred's Show one or

895
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: three five Kiss FM. I need your permission to continue

896
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: with this call because we are on the radio. Is

897
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: that okay? All right? Yeah? Cool, Well, we appreciate your time.

898
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: We've been looking forward to talking to you because a

899
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: girl named Tiffany reached out to us said that she

900
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: met you on a hinge and you apparently went on

901
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: a date with she and her friend. Yeah, yeah, I did. Yeah,

902
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: well she told us about that date. Um apparently you know,

903
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: well we know all about it. You didn't bring a

904
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: friend and that wasn't necessary apparently. Um. But but she

905
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: and her friend are wondering why you haven't called either

906
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: one of them. Oh um, I mean I I had fun.

907
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: I thought I honestly wasn't really interested in either of them. Well,

908
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: you're not interested in either of them. That's that's interesting

909
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: because from what I understand, you were very interested in

910
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: both of them the date. How often does the dude

911
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: get to do that? So you this was more of

912
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: like a milestone for you. Yeah. Yeah, my friends had

913
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: We all had kind of a competition, not competition or whatever,

914
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was the first one my friend to

915
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah yeah. Okay, so you never intended to

916
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: date either one of them after that, like you weren't, because,

917
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: by the way, that's an awkward situation to be in.

918
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess at some point you have to

919
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: pick one, unless you're gonna wind up on one of

920
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: those like TLC shows or whatever, in which case you

921
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: pick them both. But I mean you have to pick one,

922
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: which is gonna be awkward for somebody and so that's

923
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: probably not gonna work. I mean, I'll be totally honest,

924
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: Like the night went on kind of tell like I

925
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: don't really have a super strong connection with either event,

926
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: but they were both cool, you know what I mean.

927
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: But you saw the direction it was headed and you

928
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: were like, all right, yeah, I'm gonna have lemons. I'm

929
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna make you know, double lemonade. That's some strong friend.

930
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: I forgot you mention that Tiffany is here. Um, Tiffany

931
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: hearing this one? Are your thoughts? I just even like

932
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: either of us, Like are you kidding me? My god?

933
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: You were like so into us and that we're all

934
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: having such a good time. And I guess I can

935
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: understand it if you like didn't want to her our feelings.

936
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, we're best friends, and like, how do you

937
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: pick but to just like plat out thing you didn't

938
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: like either of us. It was just a milestones, Like

939
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: what the kidding? Okay? Well, first of all, I didn't

940
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: know you were listening. I'm sorry, Yeah, sorry, m yeah.

941
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: The second no, no, I just please continue. I I'd

942
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: like to hear what you have to say. Well, I

943
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I mean thing of all I did

944
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: have a good pun, you know. But it was just

945
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: it was a no win situation beyond that night, you know,

946
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: so it was like, well this, make the best of it.

947
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: And uh, I would have bought a friend, but I couldn't,

948
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: like take between two of my close friends. You know. Um,

949
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't really know what. I didn't

950
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: really expect anything going in, you know, So I don't

951
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: really feel like I owed well, you know. I mean, look,

952
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: he couldn't pick one of you. That wasn't gonna work.

953
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: You guys all had a good time. We're all you know,

954
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: everyone's consenting adults here. Everybody knew what they were doing. Um,

955
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, Tiffany, sound like it was a good experience

956
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: for you and your friend. So I mean, could we

957
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: all just sort of agreeing to move on from this?

958
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: I mean a second day? Oh never mind. So he's

959
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: he would Jacob would be interested with both of them

960
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: or one of them, I mean both of them. Are

961
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: you gonna bring a friend this time? Hell no, he's not.

962
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: That would be That would be incredibly stupid. Tiffany, are

963
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: you this is amazing? Because I'm definitely not about it

964
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: anymore anymore. Okay, all right, I mean you know, Okay, Tiffany,

965
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm sorry this didn't work out. I think we all

966
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: can agree though, that this was, you know, low probability

967
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: here of this all everyone being happy in this situation,

968
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: right because if if let's say he'd picked you, your

969
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: friend would have been that cool right right? Okay, so

970
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: we can all just shake hands and smile, right, yeah,

971
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: I guess so. Yeah? Okay, Um, Jacob, sorry, man, it's

972
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: not going to work out for another day. But you'll

973
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: always have the memories, does I'm gonna be all right, Okay,

974
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: ro I a big dog. Yeah, good lucks at both

975
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: of you. Thanks for your time. Okay, two minutes, we're

976
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: back on one out three five. You know what's funny

977
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: about that? Wait, about the phonies that I was telling

978
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: you guys off the air, Um, somebody hit me up

979
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: on Hinge. It's probably one of the reasons why I've

980
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: given up on Hinge. Finally it's over. It's really over.

981
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm not given up on the dating again. Okay, I've

982
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: decided to be settlement for a while. No, I really have,

983
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: I really have No, I really have I really have

984
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: your heart. I do this every now and again. It's

985
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: like when I do to squeeze juice cleans and I

986
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: only drink juice and don't eat for a while. That's

987
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with sex. I'm gonna only drink

988
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: juice and not eat for a while. Um. But this

989
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: these people, they this girl was like, hey, I'm massed

990
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: with her. And then she messaged me. She's like, hey, um,

991
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: you bring a friend and my friend and let's go

992
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: to you know, on a double date. And I'm like,

993
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, most of my friends are married, and so

994
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: I don't really know who I would call. And she's like, fine,

995
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: you can take both of us out then, and she's like,

996
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: but think bachelor date. I'm like, oh, I gotta get

997
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: a helicopter now, Like what, I don't know. There's a

998
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: no win situation, Like there's no way that's gonna turn

999
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: out okay. Even if even if you go out with

1000
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: the two hottest women of the two hottest guys, or

1001
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: wherever you set this up, someone's gonna wind up being

1002
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: pissed and it's gonna screw up somebody's friendship. Like why

1003
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: would you ever agree to that? You said you were

1004
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: bored though, so it might be something different to try,

1005
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I guess, but you said it

1006
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: calin in the waiting, Like, do you do you like

1007
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: this other person? Like if if if back when I

1008
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: had a bunch of single friends, if I had picked one,

1009
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: and even if he's like my greatest friend and I

1010
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: love him and we go out and the girl picks him,

1011
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: there's still gonna be like some animosity that's not even

1012
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: his fault, Like we all agreed to do this, but

1013
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: at the end of it, nobody really Well, I guess

1014
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the person who picks wins, but that's it. The bachelor,

1015
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't about it. Yeah, yeah, but unless you marry

1016
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: that person, then it's always gonna be that thing in

1017
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: your friendship. I mean, imagine if you and one of

1018
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: your fifty best friends went out just pick one of them, Kaitlin,

1019
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: and you go out with one guy and I know

1020
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: this would never happen, but let's say that he picked

1021
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: your friend and not you. You cannot tell me that

1022
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: you won't be a little miffed. I mean, do I

1023
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: even like the guy? I mean, what if I don't

1024
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: like the guy? You know, Well, let's say you both

1025
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: do hypothetically and you're both hoping at the end of

1026
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: the night but you get chosen. Well I can't, okay, okay,

1027
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: all right, well never mind, all right, hold on, Maybe

1028
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: maybe Paulina can compute. Maybe not Paulina. You and you're

1029
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: you're hot, close friend who you care deeply about. You

1030
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: guys go both go out with the same guy and

1031
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: you like him equally, and at the end of the night,

1032
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: he chooses your friend. You can't tell me, if you're

1033
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: being honest, even though everybody knew what was going on

1034
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: and the possibility was always there, you can't tell me.

1035
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: There won't be a little piece of you that's like

1036
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: even if you're even if you're mad, it might be

1037
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: that you're mad that he picked your friend. It might

1038
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: also be mad that your friend left with him, because

1039
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: maybe there's that part of you that thinks that your

1040
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: friends shouldn't do that to you. That is true, I

1041
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: will say. I mean I have I'm working on it.

1042
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: I meditate now, But I do have an ego when

1043
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: it comes to certain things. I mean, they've gotten better,

1044
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: you know, but I think like as a human right,

1045
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, Like, I mean, you could

1046
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: be the best you know, you could be Gandhi or something.

1047
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: You could be like Buddha. But I think you still

1048
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: have I still think that you have an ego that

1049
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: you kind of carry with you. It's sort of like

1050
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: who we are to the world. We present ourselves that way.

1051
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, of course my feelings will get hurt. I

1052
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: would never put myself in a position like that because

1053
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: that's a weird game that I'm not trying to play.

1054
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I get what you're saying, like,

1055
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: of course, I mean that could happen um without you know,

1056
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: going out in a day, you and your best You

1057
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: could be at a bar, right and then approaches your

1058
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: friend and that or you and that your friend. Yeah, yeah,

1059
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: And what are you supposed to do? Is it as

1060
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: a girl in that situation or a guy for that matter,

1061
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: do you I mean, do you proceed, you know, if

1062
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: the guy's expressing interest and then go, hey, you can

1063
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: deal with it later, like your friend will get over it,

1064
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: or do you? Because I've been in a situation where

1065
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: I think girl code prevails and neither one of them

1066
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: wind up. You know, I don't get attention from either

1067
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: one of them because one knows the other one likes

1068
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: me better, which I think is kind of messed up.

1069
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: But I guess if your friendship is more important than

1070
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: some dude, then so be it. Yeah, for sure. I'm

1071
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: just trying to picture it right now because to me,

1072
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing is if we don't know you and

1073
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: you approach my friend, I mean, I can't say nothing.

1074
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: If I think you're the hottest guy in the world,

1075
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: I still can't say anything. You're talking to my friend.

1076
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: Now what she does with that? If she leaves me,

1077
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: we got problems because at the bar, I mean you

1078
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: can exchange numbers. That happens a lot if it meets

1079
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: someone organically, where two friends think someone's hot. I mean,

1080
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: you wouldn't set it up that way, but that's happened

1081
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: with you know, friends of mine, and I totally yeah,

1082
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: it happens. Yeah, you just gotta get over it, and

1083
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: you're cool if they leave you with the guy, like,

1084
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: you're cool if you' you know, wind up on your own.

1085
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh like when I'm out. Yeah, let's say you go

1086
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: out and a guy approaches your friend and you know,

1087
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: things progress, and then the friends like, I'm bailing with

1088
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: this dude. You're on your own, Like, I mean, you'd

1089
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: be pissed, right, no supporting your friend. Yeah, yeah. My

1090
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: friends would be like, go home, girl, get yeah, and

1091
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: then tell me about it later. So you're creatious to

1092
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: be left by yourself. I mean, you're cool. If it's

1093
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: like girls night, you're yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like myself,

1094
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and get food. Yes, that's what I would do.

1095
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: But I'm a loner, so it doesn't matter to me.

1096
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: But I know guys who would be like, wait a minute, whoa,

1097
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, Like I thought we were hanging out tonight

1098
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: and now you leave them with some chick or vice versa.

1099
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I feel like girls are a little more that way.

1100
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: The rules don't apply if somebody can get booty in

1101
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: any relationship. If I would believe, I would like to believe, Kalen,

1102
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: that's a universal rule. But I think there are some

1103
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: female friend groups, maybe male friend groups, but female friend

1104
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: groups where that's not the case. Where it's like, if

1105
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: it's girls' night, it's girls night, you know, like we're

1106
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: hanging out with our ladies tonight, and then guys aren't

1107
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: getting in the way of this thing. There will always

1108
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: be another girl's night. You know. I'm not always getting

1109
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: in so figure every if it's a girls group of

1110
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: more than two, I feel like there's always one like

1111
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: mom in the group that will shut that down. I mean,

1112
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm a mom, but I would never shut that down.

1113
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: It's more like taking care of people. You're cool, but

1114
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: I wonder how many you know what about your group?

1115
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm not trying to play you

1116
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: off each other, but but you know what I'm talking about. Like,

1117
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: I feel like if when I think of times where

1118
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: I've approached a girl group randomly with other guys, there's

1119
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: usually one person there who's sort of like who feels

1120
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: like it's her. Yeah, it's her job to sort of

1121
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to make this a female thing,

1122
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: but I can only relate to this this scenario where

1123
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm approaching a group of women where there's the one

1124
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: girl who's like, Nope, we're not doing that tonight, Ladies

1125
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: like you know that kind of that kind of stuff.

1126
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, not really in my group. But

1127
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's the most sober girl because she's bored, you

1128
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: know what I means. So she's like, well, I'm not

1129
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: gonna be by myself on this one, but honestly, like no,

1130
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: oh no. My biggest thing though, is just safety, Like

1131
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, maybe because I'm I mean when

1132
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: the younger twenties, I feel like we would go out

1133
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: and do that, right, we would leave the bar with people.

1134
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Now that I'm older, I think we also want to

1135
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: go home after. Like you know what I'm saying. Anyone

1136
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: about you go home, Well, I would be like, okay,

1137
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, turn your locate on. I do do that,

1138
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: and I will say, you know, text me when you're there,

1139
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: the text media dress when you get there, stuff like that.

1140
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: But if there's booty, yeah, go for it. I just

1141
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: need to know where you are. Turn your surface. It's fun.

1142
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I'm going out with

1143
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: a group of single guys because that went off and

1144
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: got married on me. But I will tell you that

1145
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: now today. If I go out with a group of

1146
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: single guys and or a guy and he goes out

1147
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: with a girl, I'd be like, what time is it?

1148
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: Sweet before nine, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna go home.

1149
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: I order a pizza, like this is rad. Yeah, can

1150
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: I gets you guys in a hotel room? Like how

1151
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: fast can we make this happen? Because I'm already bored,

1152
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 1: So let's get it over food. I think I'm crazy. Guys,

1153
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: these guys, this couple with the weekend in New York.

1154
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: They went to a popular Soho brass Are restaurant. They

1155
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: ordered an eighteen dollars bottle of wine and instead were

1156
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: served a two thousand dollars bottle of wine meant for

1157
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: a table of businessmen. The funny thing about the story

1158
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: among well, there are a couple of funny things. But

1159
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: I guess the businessmen they got the eighteen dollars dollars

1160
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: bottle of wine and they didn't even notice. So they,

1161
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, here they go, well's get the They ordered

1162
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty nine shatshow Mota and Rothschild BIRDA. I

1163
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: guess sounds all right. That's how I would order it

1164
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: if I if I went to Balthazar Baltasar restaurant. Oh yes,

1165
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: I'll have the nineteen eighty nine Shato Moza Racha boardeou.

1166
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: I guess that's um two thousand dollars. So then instead

1167
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: they get the eighteen dollars bottle of wine. And I

1168
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: guess all these businessmen are drinking this stuff like this

1169
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: is the funnest the wine available or whatever. And it

1170
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: turns out it was eighteen dollars um. Not clear how

1171
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: the mix up happened. I guess though they were not

1172
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: charged for the two thousand. I mean, how could you

1173
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: so you say the businessman, the businessman didn't drink any

1174
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: of it, and then the other couple they didn't know

1175
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: they ordered. They didn't order that, so they can't charge

1176
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: anybody for that bottle. I'm trying to see if I

1177
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: think I read that the they wound up giving the

1178
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: businessman a bottle as well, and I don't think anyone

1179
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: got charged for the wine. So well, no, they're probably

1180
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: because you know, ever, you know, you trust me, you

1181
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: don't want to know. Don't don't go to a restaurant

1182
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: and order a bottle of wine for like sixty bucks

1183
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: that you think is delicious. Don't go to Bunny's and

1184
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 1: then look and see how much it was. It would

1185
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: be very upset. What do you do? But the Chateau

1186
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Moton rough Child has notes of luscious black currents with

1187
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: powerful ripe tannins and an extremely long finish, A lot

1188
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: like me, A lot like yes, that's how they described me,

1189
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: as well, with eucalyptus on the nose and vanilla bean

1190
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: and ripe plum flavors made seven out of one hundred

1191
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: on the thing. Um. This isn't the first time this

1192
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: has happened. By the way, in Manchester, England, a couple

1193
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: was accidentally served a fifty eight hundred dollars bottle of

1194
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: wine after ordering a three hundred and forty dollars bottle

1195
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: of wine. Nonetheless, but anyway, that's that's quite the mix up,

1196
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: and it would kind of be The problem is, I

1197
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: think it would be wasted on me. Like if if

1198
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: I ordered an eighteen dollars dollars bottle of wine, it

1199
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention, and then you brought me a two

1200
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bottle of wine. I don't know that I

1201
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: would know what happened. I would probably just be like, wow,

1202
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: this is pretty good, and then I just keep drinking it,

1203
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, like it was nothing, and then only later

1204
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: to find out that it was like the greatest of

1205
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: all time or something. You know, Yeah, because they don't

1206
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: leave the bottle of the table, do they, Or yeah, Okay,

1207
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: I guess I'd look at it and go this is

1208
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: an awfully fancy label for eighteen dollars whatever. Um. Apparently

1209
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: the new hotness now on the black market. If you're interested,

1210
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: Paulina in a new business opportunity, travel, you could sell

1211
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: these outside of coals. The travelers are using fake coronavirus

1212
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: test certificates to board flights, um and some apparently you

1213
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: are paying up to one hundred and fifty euros. So

1214
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: whatever that is, one hundred we'll call it one hundred

1215
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars for forged results. The brazen rule breakers

1216
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: have said they were able to board their flights after

1217
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: doctoring someone else's test and changing it to their name

1218
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: before printing it out and showing it to staff at

1219
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: airports in the UK, many airlines are now requiring proof

1220
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: of a negative coronavirus test before travelers can board a

1221
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: plane to certain countries. A small industry of selling false

1222
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: negative certificates is also cropping up. A travelers reportedly willing

1223
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: to clap up anywhere between fifty and one hundred and

1224
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: fifty bucks from bogus documents. UM. So, I don't know

1225
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: if it's I don't know. I've not been asked to

1226
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: produce that traveling around the US, you know, but I

1227
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: think in other parts of the country they're asking for that.

1228
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: If you're allowed to go at all. What did I

1229
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: read that? France shut down again, Spain shutting down again,

1230
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: A bunch of places they're shutting down because the coronavirus

1231
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: is spiking. So but anyway, I guess if you've got

1232
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: a negative result, you can just you know, sort of

1233
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, sharpy that out and write, write someone

1234
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: else's name in there, and then sell it. Might Yeah,

1235
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna say. You seem really deep in thought on

1236
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: this one. Don't actually do it poorly. I'm just sort

1237
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: of kidding. I wouldn't never right. First, you got to

1238
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: find a negative result, though, and then and then I

1239
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: guess you can. But let me tell you, as we've

1240
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: seen Paul Into, your photoshop skills are so good that

1241
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: nobody would ever know that. You see my Instagram story

1242
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: and how people sell things are like, hey, I got

1243
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: this for sale, Hit me up, HMU business, I got

1244
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: results for sale? Awful, they're std results. What were you

1245
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: saying on field that the kids would say VSUS? That

1246
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: is v sus no cats, no cap, no cap, no cap.

1247
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: Thank god, I keep forgetting about that. Otherwise you've never

1248
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: heard the end of it. Yeah, they talk better than

1249
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: they tie these are the radio blocks on the Friend Show.

1250
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: Um okay. Audio Journal six fifty fifty Shelley with a blog. Okay,

1251
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: oh did Paulina do you want to do? What are

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01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: you doing it? I can do it? Who did we

1253
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: decide on? I don't I don't know. When we're so

1254
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: nice here today, were like you doing it was a

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: toss up, but okay, I m d e. P et Paulina,

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: you do one, then go all right your blog. I

1257
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: am putting this out there because I don't know what

1258
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: kind of advice to give to my friend on this one,

1259
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: because I'm really torn. It's really a friend, Okay. I

1260
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: thought it was a really good question and just something

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: that I mean. I always go to friend my advice. Shelley,

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: you give me good advice too, so maybe you guys

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: can help her out because I feel bad. I believe

1264
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: that people ask me for advice. You do great advice

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: I give. I don't fall you take advice. No, but

1266
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: you're right. I know how to live. I just don't

1267
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: do it. I feel like you always say the right

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01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: things too, and that's hard. I've noticed I never say

1269
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: the right things. I don't know if that's true. Many

1270
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: way Okay, so what's the question. Let's hear the question

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: so I can solve this problem. So my friend told me,

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01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: and really it is a friend. I thought it was

1273
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: really interesting. So she told me that her and this

1274
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: guy that she was saying for like four months they

1275
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: were or like five months, I can't remember, maybe it

1276
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: was four, but they never were official, but they liked

1277
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: each other whatever. At the end, he was like kind

1278
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: of being distant almost even just sort of saying without

1279
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: saying of like I don't want to like really want

1280
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: anything out of this, but without saying it, you know,

1281
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: actually like manning up whatever. So like we all have

1282
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: been telling her like, oh, I don't know this is

1283
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: like the right person then for you, because it seems

1284
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: like maybe want to be serious with him. I don't know. Anyway,

1285
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: they didn't talk for like maybe a month, she said,

1286
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: and then he calls her and gives her like the

1287
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like you know, I called the apology tour. Look,

1288
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, when they call, they come back. Okay, here's

1289
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: the thing. They'll hear me out. Usually when they call you,

1290
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: at least happens to me. I've been guilty of this.

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: I will admit it when I call you. It's for

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01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: a purpose either am trying to like close this out,

1293
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: meaning like at the end, I'll say, you know, I

1294
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: really hope you find someone that makes you happy. I

1295
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: hope we could both move on and just like you know,

1296
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: not have any hatred towards each other. I've done that

1297
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: or I had this done to me where it's like

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: I want you back. There's always a purpose behind it,

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: and no one's ever called just to be like, I'm

1300
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: sorry that I messed up and acknowledge everything they messed

1301
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: up on right, and like acknowledge what they did to me.

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: I was very honest and my friends agree. I tell her,

1303
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, it sounds like he's being selfish and

1304
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: he has this on its conscious and he can't get

1305
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: it off. So he's kind of apologize to you. But

1306
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: it's not for you. It's for him to feel better

1307
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: about himself and see nothing that came out of it.

1308
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: Though he just called to apologize, that's it. It's no

1309
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: I want you back. I want to fix it, and

1310
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: there's no like closure of like I just want to

1311
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: move on, like you left it so open and now

1312
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: she's all confused and I'm like, I mean, take it

1313
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: for what it is, an apology, but I kind of

1314
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: feel like it's selfish and call me wrong. It can

1315
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: hit me up on Twitter, let me know if you

1316
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But I feel like it's selfish. Well, I mean,

1317
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: for someone to say they're sorry, maybe it is selfish,

1318
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: but then you could choose to accept that or not

1319
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: accept them. But I think it's what you do moving forward, right,

1320
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: Like if she wants something serious and he comes and

1321
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: goes and it's casual, well then he's not the guy.

1322
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: She's willing to accept his casual terms, and you know

1323
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: she can do that too, right, But I don't think

1324
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: it's up to her. I think like the balls in

1325
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: his court because he said sorry, but he never did

1326
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: anything else with that, like I want to make this work,

1327
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: or that he doesn't because he did. There's your answer exactly.

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you should focus on the apology being

1329
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: selfish because some people will never get an apology, or

1330
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: some people will never get that closure they just go away.

1331
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: Because Yeah, my reaction was, oh, like to callogist apologize.

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01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: I think that's actually kind of a brave thing because

1333
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: he could have just let it go. I feel, yeah,

1334
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: most people when they ghost They just ghost and just ghost.

1335
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: And I'm killing of ghosting. And I don't do it

1336
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: on purpose. I do it because I don't want conflict.

1337
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: We've all done that. So if he called or specifically

1338
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I'm sorry, I just wasn't feeling I

1339
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what he said, but just if you

1340
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: if I wasn't see that I ain't feeling it, it was.

1341
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: And I also think that's actually another conversation, Like if

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01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: he was like I just wasn't feeling it, he never

1343
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: even acknowledged that. It was just more like you were there,

1344
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: what did you say? You were there for me? And

1345
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: like I wasn't there for you type thing. So he

1346
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: felt guilty, He felt guilt. He had some time to

1347
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: reflect and he felt guilty about it. So fine, So

1348
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: maybe that's selfish, But but aren't aren't a lot I mean,

1349
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I don't. I wouldn't reflect

1350
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: on that. Maybe i'd just reflect on the sentiment. Yeah,

1351
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: got apology, Cool, move on, she got the apology. A

1352
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get it. That's very I think, Yeah,

1353
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't get it. I just think

1354
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: it's really interesting because I've never heard anyone just called

1355
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: just to calm telling you. It's always something behind it.

1356
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: And maybe that's selfish for him to call and be like,

1357
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: let's try this again. Maybe that's self I think that

1358
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: would be more selfish if he's like if the apology

1359
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: came with oh, by the way, like let's go out

1360
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: again so I can hit it or whatever, like, no,

1361
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: I not hit it, then there's more of a motive,

1362
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: like I like, like a motive behind it. It's just

1363
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: he was just offering the apology. Yeah, he wants to

1364
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: get it off his conscience, but take the apology, I guess.

1365
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: And then but then for her, she has to decide

1366
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: based on his behavior what the terms are going to

1367
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: be moving forward. That's up to her. Yeah, I think

1368
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: it's really interesting, to be honest, I just think I've

1369
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: never seen this in my twenty eight years of life. Yeah,

1370
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, he's always a motive of And I'm

1371
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: not saying hit it or quit it. But you know,

1372
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: if he's over here like you were, you know this

1373
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: great person and that's what he's telling or you're this

1374
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: great person blah blah blah, I didn't appreciate you for

1375
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 1: what it you know what this was. I didn't appreciate you.

1376
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: Then I guess you know, you'll live and you'll learn

1377
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I was like, so then what happened

1378
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: after that? Like there was no plan, but he never

1379
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: closed it either. And my opinion closing it is to

1380
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: say something like, hey, you know, I hope we both

1381
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: just can move on and be I don't know friends,

1382
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: or hey, like, I hope you know you find someone

1383
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: that treats you gray. I've said that to somebody because

1384
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to close it. But also think I think

1385
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: if you're dating someone casually and it's not that you

1386
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: can't catch feelings, of course you can catch feelings, but

1387
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: you also have to kind of be responsible for your

1388
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: own emotions in that right, Like if you if you're

1389
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: if it's casual dating and the person's not promising you

1390
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: something and you're just it's just what it is, Yeah,

1391
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: then those are the terms that you've accepted. And if

1392
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: you want something else, then you got to say I

1393
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,879
Speaker 1: want something to find or we need to have a conversation,

1394
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: and you got to own that I've learned that this

1395
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: year because I've done the casual thing too. Or then

1396
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: the person disappears and it's like, well, that was messed up.

1397
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: But I've I've also done the disappearing, and it's like, well,

1398
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't step up and say that

1399
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: I wanted something more. I didn't do anything. I just

1400
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: took it. I just took it for what it was.

1401
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: So that's on me or that's on you. You kind

1402
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: of also got to take ownership of how you approach it.

1403
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: And I've also done the thing which is selfish, where

1404
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: you ghost and then you go off to see what

1405
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: else is out there, and when you realize that the

1406
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: other thing was better, then you apologize to get back. Yeah,

1407
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: that's self that's selfish for him just to call with

1408
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: a no strings attached to apology. I don't have a

1409
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: problem with that. I don't either, never heard of it

1410
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: my life, never experienced experience. You're sort of leaning in

1411
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: that way when that's not the intention. I don't know.

1412
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: Let's say we reward we stand the unconditional apologies, especially

1413
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: a call, because he could have texted too. I stand

1414
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: anyone who calls. Yes, there you're going, that's right, problem solved.

1415
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: Thanks just crossed that one. Often we'll move on to

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: the next life issue. Show