WEBVTT - Dr. John: A Shooting, Federal Prison, and Voodoo Healing

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<v Speaker 1>Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>story about voodoo, not the Hollywood version of vudu, because

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't a story about pincushion dolls and needles. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>worships the devil in this story, well almost nobody. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a story about real Louisiana voodoo, the kind with

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<v Speaker 1>the power not only to hurt into hecks, but also

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<v Speaker 1>to heal. This is a story of Doctor John, a pimp,

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<v Speaker 1>a drug addict, an outlaw, and a piano man who

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<v Speaker 1>made great music. Unlike that music I played for you

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the show, And that wasn't great music.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a preset loop from my melotron called nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a half Fingers MK.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 1>I played you that loop because I can't afford the

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<v Speaker 1>rights to the Lions Sleeps Tonight by the Tokens. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would I play you that particular slice of no nut

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<v Speaker 1>high note cheese?

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<v Speaker 2>Could I afford it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was a number one song in America on

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<v Speaker 1>December twenty fourth, nineteen sixty one, And that was the

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<v Speaker 1>day that a musician named mac Rebenak, who would later

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<v Speaker 1>become known as Doctor John, was shot outside a bar

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<v Speaker 1>in Jacksonville, Florida, in an incident that kicked off a

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<v Speaker 1>heroin journey through the criminal underworld and ultimately to musical salvation.

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode, a shooting, a car chase, a drug bust,

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<v Speaker 1>time in a federal pen, musical healing and rebirth with

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<v Speaker 1>doctor John. I'm Jake Brennan, and this is disgracing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the night before Christmas in New Orleans, in the

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<v Speaker 1>city's third Ward, in a tiny shotgun apartment, A creature

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<v Speaker 1>was stirring and it definitely was not a mouse. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman and she was alone, swaying back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth in a trance, filling the room with sound because

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<v Speaker 1>she was chanting a mantra. She repeated it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over until the words came roaring out of her mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>In the corner of the room sat a small wooden altar.

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<v Speaker 1>It was covered in black candles. The flickering candles sent

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<v Speaker 1>menacing shadows stretching toward the ceiling. While the woman was

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<v Speaker 1>doing her best to conjure up some menacing energy. She

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<v Speaker 1>banged on a glass bottle with a stick until the

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm built into a frenzy. All the while she kept chanting.

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<v Speaker 1>The sound echoed through the narrow shotgun apartment it built

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<v Speaker 1>until it felt like the wooden beams of the house

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<v Speaker 1>were resonating with her voice. And just when it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like the sound could get no louder, she reached down

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<v Speaker 1>to the paper bag at her feet and pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>the object inside. It was a pair of scuffed, leather

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<v Speaker 1>dressed shoes, size eleven. Still chanting, she grabbed a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of dust from a bowl and sprinkled it across the altar.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she placed the shoes on the dust and blew

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<v Speaker 1>out the candles. But this was no ordinary dust. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a special blend of three ingredients, dirt from a graveyard,

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<v Speaker 1>grease from a church bell, and snake skin. It was

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<v Speaker 1>goopher dust, a powerful conjuring agent. The woman used it

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<v Speaker 1>to cast a hex on the owner of the shoes. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred miles away, a man threw open the door

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<v Speaker 1>of the back office of a tiny juke joint in Jacksonville, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>His mind was raising as fast as his fingers on

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<v Speaker 1>the dial and the combination lock of the heavy room

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<v Speaker 1>safe tucked into the corner of the office. This man

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<v Speaker 1>was the only one who knew the combination. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>He was the owner of this little club. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a down and dirty job, and sometimes it was dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>so he kept a gun in the safe just in case.

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<v Speaker 1>On the good nights, though it was worth it, there

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<v Speaker 1>were piles of cash to be made. Like tonight, the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays were approaching, and the crowd was in a festive mood,

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<v Speaker 1>and the bar was already doing brisk business, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a hot New Orleans band set up on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>On a night like tonight, this man should have been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing dollar signs in his eyes, but instead he was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing red. He spun the knob on the combination lock

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<v Speaker 1>to the final number and heaved open the heavy door

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<v Speaker 1>of the safe. Loose bills flew into the air as

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<v Speaker 1>he frantically rifled through the safe contents, but finally his

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<v Speaker 1>hands made contact with cold steel. It was the long

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<v Speaker 1>black barrel of his Colt revolver. He pulled out the

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<v Speaker 1>gun and stared at it for a moment, and the

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<v Speaker 1>memory came flooding back. He shuddered, and then he loaded

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<v Speaker 1>the cylinder with six bullets. As the man pushed his

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<v Speaker 1>way back out of the office, he left the safe

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<v Speaker 1>wide open behind him. He had more important things on

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<v Speaker 1>his mind, like finding the musician who fucked his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and pumping a thirty caliber bullet to the bastard's skull.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Rebenac was relaxing in the club's dressing room when

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly he felt the chill. It tingled all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to the soles of his feet, like he was

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<v Speaker 1>walking on pins and needles. He reached down and rubbed

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<v Speaker 1>the leather on his second favorite pair's size eleven wingtips.

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<v Speaker 1>Up until this moment, he had been feeling mellow, and

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<v Speaker 1>why not. He'd stolen his old lady Lydia's last bag

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<v Speaker 1>of brown on his way out of town. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>the small stash of heroin hidden in a few juicy

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<v Speaker 1>fruit wrappers in his coat pocket, all except what he

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<v Speaker 1>had already shot up during the drive to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the rule of every.

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<v Speaker 1>Junkie musician Mack knew in New Orleans. Never carry on

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<v Speaker 1>you more than you can eat, because he never knew

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<v Speaker 1>when a vice.

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<v Speaker 2>Squad cop would try to bust you.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he didn't have enough bride money, then you

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<v Speaker 1>might be doing forever in a day in Angola.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was a worry for another.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, because the heroin that was coursing through Max veins

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<v Speaker 1>right now was doing its work. Mack was feeling knocked

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<v Speaker 1>out loaded, ready to show these Florida fuckers what a

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<v Speaker 1>hot New Orleans band could really do. Except for one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't find his lead singer. It was that damn kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie Barron. Ronnie had a knack for disappearing just before showtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually he was making time with some girl that he'd

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<v Speaker 1>just met. Mack couldn't blame him. It was a kid's

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<v Speaker 1>first time on the road, and after all, he was

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<v Speaker 1>only seventeen, so Mack tried not to go too hard

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<v Speaker 1>on him, even if he took longer to get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a show than the two dancing girls who were

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<v Speaker 1>traveling with the band. Max stepped outside and fished into

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<v Speaker 1>his coat pocket for a thin joint. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of a few he snagged from one of the girls

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<v Speaker 1>that he was pimping out of a fleabag motel in

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<v Speaker 1>the French Quarter. As the reefer smoke filled his lungs,

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<v Speaker 1>the girl wasn't on his mind, and neither was Max's

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<v Speaker 1>old lady. Instead, it was Ronnie Baron's mother. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>few days ago, Mack had showed up in her kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>He wore his clean as dirty shirt and he was

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<v Speaker 1>mostly not stoned. He promised Ronnie's mother that he would

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<v Speaker 1>keep Ronnie out of trouble on the road, but the

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<v Speaker 1>woman didn't buy a speech. Instead, when he finished, she

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<v Speaker 1>just stared at him for a long moment. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed a meat cleaver in front of her and she

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<v Speaker 1>slammed it down on the counter, slicing a roast in two.

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<v Speaker 2>She warned Mac that if Ronnie.

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<v Speaker 1>Got in trouble, she would cut off Max Cajoni's the

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<v Speaker 1>same way she sliced.

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<v Speaker 2>The roast, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Scared the shit out of Mac at the time, But

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<v Speaker 1>now five hundred miles away, Mac couldn't help a crack

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<v Speaker 1>up about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't scared of the old lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, it was time to get the show on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>so he flicked the butt of his joint towards the

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<v Speaker 1>gravel parking lot and went looking for Ronnie. It was

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<v Speaker 1>when he turned the corner that he heard it, the

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<v Speaker 1>unmistakable sound of hard metal colliding with soft flesh. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the sound of the club owner's pistol whipping Ronnie

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<v Speaker 1>Barren in the face. The club owner was screaming that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to kill Ronnie. Mac launched himself forward.

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<v Speaker 1>He jumped into the melee and tried to grab the

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<v Speaker 1>club owner's gun. He clamped down on the cold steel

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<v Speaker 1>and then he heard a bang, and that's when Mac

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<v Speaker 1>realized that he was holding onto the barrel of the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac screamed in agony as a thirty caliber bullet tore

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<v Speaker 1>through his hand. Blood was streaming everywhere. Mac lifted up

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<v Speaker 1>his left hand, and that's when he realized his finger,

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention, his future as a guitarist, were both

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<v Speaker 1>hanging by a thread. The comedian was a little guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He stood barely five five even with the lift from

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<v Speaker 1>his shiny black dress shoes. He wore a white tuxedo

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<v Speaker 1>jacket and an oily smile that matched his slick black hair.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like he came to Madame Francine's strip club

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<v Speaker 1>in the French Quarter straight from Las Vegas, and for

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<v Speaker 1>good reason, because Las Vegas is exactly where this point

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<v Speaker 1>size comedian came from. No one knew how he landed

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<v Speaker 1>this month long gig warming up the crowds at Madame Francine's.

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<v Speaker 1>But even though he was from out of town, the

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<v Speaker 1>comedian still should have known the rules, like stay away

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<v Speaker 1>from the strippers working the stage and stay away from

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<v Speaker 1>the bee girls working the crowd. They were all spoken

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<v Speaker 1>for by the pimps who operated out of the club

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<v Speaker 1>or the gangsters who owned it. But this comedian either

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that or didn't care, and he didn't waste

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<v Speaker 1>any time because he was already messing around with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the strippers.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy moved quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for him, word got out just as fast, so

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<v Speaker 1>when he arrived at the club on this night, he

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<v Speaker 1>was greeted by two huge bouncers. They grabbed him by

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<v Speaker 1>his lapels and his face turned almost as white as

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<v Speaker 1>his tuxedo jacket. His smarmy smile melted away. He stammered

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<v Speaker 1>out a few lame excuses, but the bouncers were in

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<v Speaker 1>no mood to listen. Instead, they pulled him out to

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<v Speaker 1>the street corner, and then one of the huge bouncers

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<v Speaker 1>smashed his fists directly into the comedian's nose, and the comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>Crashed to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Blood was pouring down his face and onto his white jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>The two bouncers then continued kicking the shit out of

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<v Speaker 1>the comedian. On the street corner, in front of anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who cared to look. After they were done. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the bouncers picked up the comedian and screamed in his face,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be funny, Go be funny now, you

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<v Speaker 1>little motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>He pushed the comedian back into the club.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, inside Madam Francises, no one skipped to beat. The

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<v Speaker 1>card players didn't even look up from their hands. The

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<v Speaker 1>dancers kept dancing, and on the bandstand, the band kept playing.

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<v Speaker 1>This was French Quarter justice in nineteen sixty three. Laws

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter and the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't run the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The gangsters who operated these New Orleans clubs did.

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<v Speaker 2>Which wasn't all bad.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it made the French Quarter twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>seven party, as long as you knew which rules to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike this comedian, mac Rebenak knew the rules, so he

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<v Speaker 1>knew better than to stop the music. He stared at

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<v Speaker 1>the blood dripping down the comedian's face, but he kept

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<v Speaker 1>stabbing at the electric organ until the band brought their

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<v Speaker 1>set to a waring climax. Now, as soon as the

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<v Speaker 1>band finished, the bouncers pushed the comedian on stage, still

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<v Speaker 1>wearing his blood splattered white jacket. While the comedian was

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to do his set with the broken nose, Mac

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<v Speaker 1>hopped off the bandstand and headed out into the French

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<v Speaker 1>Quarter at night. He needed to score. His left hand

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely killing him. Even two years after a surgeon

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<v Speaker 1>successfully reattached his ring finger after that shooting, he could

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<v Speaker 1>barely move it.

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<v Speaker 2>When he did, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Still caused him plenty of pain, so much pain that

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<v Speaker 1>he gave up on playing guitar and he shifted to

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<v Speaker 1>playing keys. That was thanks to his friend and bandmate,

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<v Speaker 1>James Booker. James Booker was a local legend who was

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<v Speaker 1>nicknamed the Black Liberacei for his flamboyant fashion as well

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<v Speaker 1>as his devastating chops on the piano. He showed Mac

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<v Speaker 1>a few tricks on the keys, and in return, Mac

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<v Speaker 1>taught him a few tricks of his own, like where

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<v Speaker 1>to find the best heroine in the French Quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>how to score without getting caught. Max showed James Booker

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<v Speaker 1>where to buy the Gregory bags and give them protection.

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<v Speaker 1>He showed him how to lay a jack of club's

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<v Speaker 1>face down under a black candle and then lighted when

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<v Speaker 1>were citing Psalm thirty five, the ritual was.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to make them invisible to the police. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the idea, at least.

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<v Speaker 1>One could never be too careful, especially in those days,

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<v Speaker 1>because by nineteen sixty three, the French Quarter was changing rapidly.

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<v Speaker 1>As mac walked down a wide avenue, he passed door

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<v Speaker 1>after door that was chained up and padlocked shut. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago, nearly every one of these buildings would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been packed full of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Tourists looking for a little Saturday night action, locals looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a fix, brothels, speakeasies, strip clubs, none of them

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<v Speaker 1>strictly legal. But in the French Quarter, a little bride

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<v Speaker 1>money could go a long way and keeping the party

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<v Speaker 1>running all night long, no matter what the law said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it was, at least until the city elected

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<v Speaker 1>a new Attorney general named Jim Garrison. Max spat on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and cursed Garrison's name. For years, Garrison had

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<v Speaker 1>been a low level assistant district attorney. Mack seen his

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<v Speaker 1>face darkened the doors of French Quarter bars and brothels

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<v Speaker 1>more than once, But now Garrison seemed intent on getting

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<v Speaker 1>his face plastered on the nightly news. He organized raids

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<v Speaker 1>of strip clubs and illegal speakeasies in front of news cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>He dramatically chained the doors and padlocked and shut. And

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<v Speaker 1>with every club he shut down, that was one less

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<v Speaker 1>stage for a gigging musician like Mac, because weiss live

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<v Speaker 1>music went hand in hand. In New Orleans, Mac had

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<v Speaker 1>one specific vice on his mind as he slipped through

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<v Speaker 1>an alleyway and arrived at a familiar door. He rapped

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<v Speaker 1>three times in quick succession, and the door opened a crack,

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<v Speaker 1>pulling tightly against the chain lock. Mac nodded to the

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<v Speaker 1>man inside and held up two fingers without saying a word.

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<v Speaker 1>The door slam shut. A moment later it reopened and

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<v Speaker 1>the man had two small bundles in his hand. Max

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<v Speaker 1>slipped a handful of bills to the crack in the

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<v Speaker 1>door and palmed the bundles. The door slam shut again.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac carefully wrapped each bundle in a foil juicy fruit

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<v Speaker 1>wrapper and tucked them in his coat pocket. He headed

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<v Speaker 1>down the alley and back towards Madam Francines. Once he

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<v Speaker 1>got back to the club, he could get his fix,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he could find a better place to hide

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his stash. As he turned back onto

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<v Speaker 1>the avenue. He could see the moonlight glinting off of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mississippi River ahead of him, or at least he

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was the moonlight, but as he kept walking closer,

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<v Speaker 1>he realized that it was actually a pair of headlights

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<v Speaker 1>and they were coming from a black Cadillac parked on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road. Mac felt a cold shiver

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<v Speaker 1>run through his body. He reached inside his coat and

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<v Speaker 1>touched his fingers to the Gregory bag around his neck,

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<v Speaker 1>and as he kept walking toward the car, he could

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<v Speaker 1>see two men sitting in the front seat. A bad

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<v Speaker 1>feeling was brewing in his gun, so Mac carefully slipped

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<v Speaker 1>his hand into his coat pocket. He grabbed a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of foil wrapped bundles and tossed.

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<v Speaker 2>Them into a drainage ditch, but it was too late.

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<v Speaker 1>The men jumped out of the black Cadillac and ran

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<v Speaker 1>toward him, guns and badgers in hand, screaming at him

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<v Speaker 1>to put his hands up. They grabbed Mac by the

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<v Speaker 1>collar and began searching his pockets, and they came up empty.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the cops.

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<v Speaker 1>Smirked at him, and then he asked a question, Hey, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite kind of gum? The cop gave a

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<v Speaker 1>big shitty and grin is a juicy fruit, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other cop pulled the two bundles out of the ditch

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<v Speaker 1>and held them up. The headlights of the car reflected

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<v Speaker 1>off of the foyle gum wrapper. Mack Rebenac knew that

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<v Speaker 1>his mojo had just run out. After his bust, Mack

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to two years in lock up, first in

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Parish prison, next in a federal penitentiary in

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Worth, Texas. When he got out of the slammer

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas, the judge had just one piece of advice

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<v Speaker 1>for him, don't go back to New Orleans. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>mac didn't need the advice. Jim Garrison's war on vice

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<v Speaker 1>was killing the music scene in the French Quarter anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so mac Rebenac I already knew he wouldn't be heading

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<v Speaker 1>east to New Orleans. Instead, he was going west to California.

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<v Speaker 1>He hoped he could find a new scene, a new start,

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<v Speaker 1>and he figured he might just need a new name

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<v Speaker 1>to go with it. We'll be right back after this word,

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<v Speaker 1>word word. The red and blue lights in the rear

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<v Speaker 1>view mirror were large and getting larger. Max screened at

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<v Speaker 1>the driver to step on it. But the rustbuck in

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<v Speaker 1>sedan was no match for the police cruiser, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no doubt about it. The cops were closing in

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<v Speaker 1>on them fast. The driver of the car was a

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<v Speaker 1>skinny Mexican chick known on the street as.

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<v Speaker 2>Gloria Hot to Molly.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a talent for scamming drug dealers, and she

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<v Speaker 1>could drive the hell out of a getaway car. She

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<v Speaker 1>also had a soft spot for musicians, which was good

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<v Speaker 1>news for Mac because after a year in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>he was already an in demand session player for stars

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<v Speaker 1>ranging from Aretha Franklin to Sonny and Cher. Still, he

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<v Speaker 1>barely had enough cash for the fleabag motel room he

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<v Speaker 1>shared with Gloria on the corner of Melrose and van Ness.

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<v Speaker 1>Mac watched the police car creep closer in the rear

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<v Speaker 1>view mirror. He thought about the trunk full of stolen clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought about the stash in his pocket, and he

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<v Speaker 1>thought about the bag of cash and grass.

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<v Speaker 2>If Gloria had just boosted from a Venice Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Drug dealer, If the cops caught them, they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at serious time. Max started pulling the stash out of

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<v Speaker 1>his pocket. He was just about to eat it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the car swore.

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<v Speaker 2>Viciously to the left.

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<v Speaker 1>The bundle in his hand went flying, and Gloria screamed

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<v Speaker 1>as she ran the car into a concrete highway barrier. Instantly,

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<v Speaker 1>the front bumper peeled off and the car sent sparks

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<v Speaker 1>into the air as it slid to a stop on

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<v Speaker 1>the asphalt, the tires skinning across the concrete, the car buckling.

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<v Speaker 1>They nearly spun out. Gloria managed to straighten up the wheel.

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<v Speaker 2>To the last second.

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<v Speaker 1>She cut across the highway, heading in the opposite direction,

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<v Speaker 1>flew down the first exit. Rent to could see as

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<v Speaker 1>the Saddam was heading around the curve, Max on the

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<v Speaker 1>cop car.

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<v Speaker 2>Racing ahead into the distance. It was a narrow escape.

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<v Speaker 1>Max should have been happy about it, but instead he

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<v Speaker 1>was furious, not at Gloria, she was doing what they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to do to survive, and not.

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<v Speaker 2>At the cops. He didn't like the cops, but.

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<v Speaker 1>At least he knew where he stood with him. No.

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<v Speaker 1>After the adrenaline of the high speed chase had worn off,

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<v Speaker 1>Mac's thoughts turned to his primary frustration. He was pissed

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<v Speaker 1>off at record company executives, the rich dudes, in suits

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<v Speaker 1>who were forcing him to live like an outlaw just

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<v Speaker 1>to scrape together enough cash for a shitty seventeen dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty cent motel room in the worst part of town. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>these record executives were raking in cash on the songs

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<v Speaker 1>that guys like Mac were working themselves to death creating.

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<v Speaker 1>And that wasn't an exaggeration. Mac himself had witnessed an

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<v Speaker 1>overworked studio engineer literally dropped dead of a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a session. It was too much

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<v Speaker 1>that something had to be done. So Mac thought of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst defender, a manager at Mercury Records, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who'd stiffed him on payment more than once in the

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<v Speaker 1>last month, and he decided to strike back the best

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<v Speaker 1>way he knew how. That night, at midnight, an unlikely

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<v Speaker 1>trio gathered on the rooftop of an LA Recording studio.

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<v Speaker 1>A pale Englishman with dark black hair stood in the

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<v Speaker 1>center of a pentagram drawn and chalk on the rooftop.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an evil look in his eye as he

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<v Speaker 1>muttered a series of dark incantations. Next to him, Mac

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<v Speaker 1>lit black candles and incense. He scattered figurines of the

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<v Speaker 1>graveyard spirit baron Somney. As the smoke from the incense

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<v Speaker 1>rose into the night air, Mack kept chanting and singing. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>a lanky Texan chain smoked cigarette after cigarette while he

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<v Speaker 1>watched the other two with a confused look on his face.

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<v Speaker 1>The tree were supposed to be working on a new

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<v Speaker 1>album together. The Englishman was the blues rock musician named

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<v Speaker 1>Graham Bond, who claimed to be the bastard son of

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<v Speaker 1>the famed occultist Aleister Crowley. Mack was hired to produce

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<v Speaker 1>the record, along with a Texas musician named Wayne Talbot,

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<v Speaker 1>but the record executive at Mercury kept jerking them around.

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<v Speaker 1>He changed recording dates, he refused to pay the musicians,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they complained, he threatened them with bodily harm.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they were on the rooftop of this recording

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<v Speaker 1>studio trying to conjure up a death curse. Well, at

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<v Speaker 1>least Mac and Graham Bond were. The Texan watched the

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<v Speaker 1>other two worked themselves into a frenzy for a while

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<v Speaker 1>before he casually reached into his pocket and pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. If the curses didn't work, he assured them

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<v Speaker 1>they could always just shoot the guy. In retrospect, Mack

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<v Speaker 1>realized they should have used Wayne's plan first. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>Greegrey failed. The record executive didn't have a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>in his sleep, and he didn't crash his car on

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<v Speaker 1>the way to work either. The next day, Wayne managed

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<v Speaker 1>to get himself caught up in a drug bust with

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<v Speaker 1>the guns still in his pocket. With no Gregory and

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<v Speaker 1>no gun, Mac knew he had to put his plan

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<v Speaker 1>for revenge on ice. The cops were hot on his trail,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was time to get out of town, out

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<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles, and back down to New Orleans. A

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<v Speaker 1>few months later, mac Rebenac stepped into a tiny shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>house in New Orleans' Third Ward. People were packed into

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<v Speaker 1>the room, shoulder to shoulder in all four corners. White

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<v Speaker 1>candles were lit, incense was burning, and people were holding

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<v Speaker 1>broomsticks with bottle caps nailed to them, or glass bottles

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<v Speaker 1>and sticks, and a few people had congress, some just

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<v Speaker 1>use pots and pants and everywhere around him. With the

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm pulsed and then gradual from all corners of the room,

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<v Speaker 1>people started singing, and eventually the sound grew deafening. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so loud Mac felt like it wasn't even coming

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<v Speaker 1>through his ears, it was penetrating straight into his body.

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<v Speaker 1>He watched an elderly woman step forward and lay her

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<v Speaker 1>hands on a man seated in the middle of the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody called the woman Mother Shannon. She was just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people from Max's old third Ward neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 1>he was reconnecting with these days. It felt good to

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<v Speaker 1>come home and play these familiar New Orleans rhythms, to

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<v Speaker 1>sing familiar songs. Even if the French charter was still

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<v Speaker 1>reeling under the thumb of District Attorney Jim Garrison. The

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<v Speaker 1>homecoming was enough to light a fire in his playing

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<v Speaker 1>and make him want to bring that sound back to

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<v Speaker 1>La And talking with neighborhood elders like Mother Shannon reminded

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<v Speaker 1>Mac of the true voodoo, the way the music could

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<v Speaker 1>vibrate the spirit, the way it could heal the body,

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<v Speaker 1>the way it could bring people together. After the healing ceremony,

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<v Speaker 1>Max stayed and talked to Mother Shannon into the night.

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<v Speaker 1>She told Mac about a root doctor in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who was born in Senegal. Some said he

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<v Speaker 1>was a prince. As a teenager, the man was captured

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<v Speaker 1>by Spanish slavers and shipped to Cuba. He spent twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years in slavery before he finally gained his freedom. The

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<v Speaker 1>man sailed to New Orleans, where a word quickly began

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<v Speaker 1>to spread of a newcomer with extraordinary abilities. He served

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<v Speaker 1>poor communities, the outlaws, the outsiders, and with their support,

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<v Speaker 1>he became one of the most powerful men in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>The man went by many names. Some called him Jean Montenay,

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<v Speaker 1>some called him Gan Bayeux, but most people just called

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<v Speaker 1>him Doctor John. Mac like the sound of this cat,

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like the perfect character in front of new musical

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>gumbo that had been cooking around in Max brain ever

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<v Speaker 1>since he landed back home in New Orleans. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get back into our story here in just

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<v Speaker 1>a few seconds, but real quick, I wanted to mention something.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode focuses entirely on mac Rebinuc's early years before

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<v Speaker 1>he was known worldwide as Doctor John, and as you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine, there are just so many insane stories that

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<v Speaker 1>intersect with the world of true crime from the wildlife

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<v Speaker 1>of Doctor John's. Stories that took place after the time

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<v Speaker 1>period we're covering here, Stories like the one about how

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<v Speaker 1>doctor John made a daring escape from a psych ward

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<v Speaker 1>with a warrant on his head, and how that led

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<v Speaker 1>to him writing and recording his biggest hit, Right Place.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong Time.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have time here in the full episode for

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<v Speaker 1>that story, but you can hear all about it if

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to this week's brand new mini episode of Disgraceland,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, back to this story about doctor John.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a gorgeous fall afternoon into Pega Canyon. This

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weather made Mac admit that there were at

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<v Speaker 1>least some good things about coming back to the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>The temperature was a perfect seventy two degrees, the humidity

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<v Speaker 1>was zero. Mack sat at the bottom of the canyon.

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<v Speaker 1>He was listening to a stream burbling along at the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect volume. He couldn't complain, especially since he was actually

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid for this rare day off. He and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the New Orleans exiles surrounding him was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be recording a new album for Sonny and Chaer today.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in a rarity, they have been paid in

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<v Speaker 1>advance for this session. But then at the last minute,

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<v Speaker 1>Sonny Bono had second thoughts about some of the material,

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<v Speaker 1>so he called off the sessions so that he could

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<v Speaker 1>have more time to work on the music. And now

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<v Speaker 1>word among their crew was that Sonny was going to

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<v Speaker 1>call off the sessions for the rest of the week

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Mac was glad for the break, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was even more excited about the prospect of the studio

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<v Speaker 1>being open for the next week. After all, Mac and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of these new Roman's cats had been jamming

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<v Speaker 1>on some new material in between recording sessions for other artists.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, everything had been extremely loose. They still hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>tested anything in front of an audience, but Mac thought

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<v Speaker 1>the material was already sounding great. He thought maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>could convince the record company to let them lay down

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<v Speaker 1>a few of the tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be an easy sell.

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<v Speaker 1>The studio was empty and they were already getting paid

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. All he had to do was find

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to pitch him. That was a problem

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<v Speaker 1>for tomorrow, though. Right now, Mac could just lay back,

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<v Speaker 1>relax and enjoy a rare peaceful moment. He listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds of the burgling stream, and then he noticed

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<v Speaker 1>the melody of the frogs chirping in the background. A

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<v Speaker 1>moment later, as Buddy Charlie pulled out a small flute.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie was jamming along.

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<v Speaker 1>With the symphony that the frogs were creating. Pretty soon

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else was clinking a rock against the glass bottle

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<v Speaker 1>in time with the rhythm of the rushing water, and

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<v Speaker 1>then another person added to the rhythm with whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>could find around them.

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<v Speaker 2>Mac was moved by.

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<v Speaker 1>The spirit, and soon he began singing a little improvised

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<v Speaker 1>melody that reminded him of a healing song that he

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<v Speaker 1>learned from Mother Shannon. There was nothing much, just a

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<v Speaker 1>light afternoon jam session. Well, man, it felt good. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a vibration through his whole body. Mac couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help himself. He dug in and began to sing louder.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough, they started attracting a crowd. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>hordes of half naked hippies were crying out of every

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<v Speaker 1>nook and cranny in the canyon to come listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this spontaneous nature cham People started climbing down into the

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<v Speaker 1>water and once they were in the water, they proceeded

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<v Speaker 1>to get down to the music. And the more the

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<v Speaker 1>people got down, the more the musicians got into the groove.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more the musicians got into the groove, the

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<v Speaker 1>more the energy group it grew until everyone, the musicians,

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<v Speaker 1>the dancers, the people watching from the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>canyon were whooping and laughing and singing and smiling. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a healing ceremony that mac had witnessed back

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans. It made him think again, Mother Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>It made him think of the healing power of music,

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<v Speaker 1>and it made him convinced that it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>bring Doctor John into the world. And it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing he did, because under the name Doctor John mack

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<v Speaker 1>Rebenac recorded more than thirty albums, won six Grammys, and

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<v Speaker 1>became a New Orleans icon, an unofficial ambassador for one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest music cities.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Because even today, the French Quarter is packed with music

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<v Speaker 1>nearly every night of the week. And of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite the same as it used to be. That

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven musical party, the birth music icons

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<v Speaker 1>like Doctor John, it's gone forever. But Doctor John, his music,

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy. It lives on and will for a long

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<v Speaker 1>long time to come. Mack Rebinac was healed through music,

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<v Speaker 1>great music that inspired to use music to propel himself

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the life of crime, beyond a life of disgrace,

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<v Speaker 1>to become doctor John.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just a New Orleans icon, but the music icon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jake Brennan and the Yes this Disgraceland. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for hanging out with Listen doctor John down in

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<v Speaker 1>the French Quarter and in Tipanga Canyon.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. There's so much more to this story. Doctor John

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<v Speaker 2>had an incredible life.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this crazy nuts story about an escape from a

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<v Speaker 1>psych word. We couldn't fit it into this episode, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be in our mini episode for All

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<v Speaker 1>Access members. Go to disgracelandpod dot com to sign up

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Question of the week what music or musician or artist

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<v Speaker 1>has made you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Reborn might be too strong of a word,

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<v Speaker 2>but this makes you feel great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really pulled you up out of those dark places,

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<v Speaker 1>giving you life in new ways, just as Doctor John

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<v Speaker 1>was reborn. Let us know six one seven nine oh six,

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<v Speaker 1>six sixty three eight voicemail and text. You might hear

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<v Speaker 1>your answer on the after party coming up right after this.

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