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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is.

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Speaker 2: We got a special guest today.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Gray's Anatomy guest. Come on, come on

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Speaker 1: the family. What's funny is that he should be here

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: And why are you alone sitting on that couch?

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Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I've been stood up, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I was going to start with the fact

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Speaker 3: that it's embarrassing that I'm sort of the third in

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Speaker 3: this situation, the third.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, it's gonna.

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Speaker 2: We are we having Who would I be a third for?

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Speaker 1: Mister Chris Carmack. Chris Carmackscar Well here, he was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be here, and I'm going to give him ship

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Speaker 1: because traffic knowledge he's not. Traffic is terrible in LA

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Speaker 1: and he keeps texting me and I'm like, you're already

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Speaker 1: sucking this up, Chris, You're already I'm already, and so

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Speaker 1: he should be here right here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he's not. There's next to you.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask him. I want to ask him,

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Speaker 1: not just gray stuff. I mean, I'm going to tease

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Speaker 1: some stuff for the season, but we got to get

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Speaker 1: into the OC. We got to get into all the

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Speaker 1: things Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I watched that.

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Speaker 3: Religiously, like I watched it appointment television. I watched it

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Speaker 3: on the night I was into it. Did you ever

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Speaker 3: audition for it?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you could have, no, no, because I

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Speaker 1: think at that point I probably would have been like

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Speaker 1: a like a you know, I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: I could have played high school.

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Speaker 2: I think I would have been, you know, a college girl.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like they were all forty five.

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Speaker 1: Other than it's like still those days. Let's see easy here.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's here. He's got to use the bathroom. I

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Speaker 1: don't even TikTok carmac.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, one of those has to use the

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Speaker 2: restroom first.

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Speaker 1: This is I know, this is what I have to

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Speaker 1: deal with on a daily basis.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling he's gonna come in and be

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Speaker 3: really really like great and kind and winning and smiling.

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Speaker 3: We'll see and then also a cool drink of water

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Speaker 3: that what we say, very cool drink.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a drink water, A tall

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Speaker 1: drink of water. Yeah, sure, tall drink water.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to explain to people what they're listening

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Speaker 3: to is they're listening to us talk about two beautiful

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Speaker 3: people on a couch next to each other, and I

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Speaker 3: think you're just picking apart things for no reason.

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Speaker 2: I think you both look fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thanks stop, okay, and again I think you look really

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Speaker 1: great together.

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Speaker 5: We do.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, I agree, I think this works. Okay, So we

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Speaker 1: have to introduce him because we did a mini introduction.

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Speaker 1: So Chris is here now and he's taken about five

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Speaker 1: minutes just to get situated.

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Speaker 5: You know, well, you know how uncomfortable I am in

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Speaker 5: like all situations, I'm usually like ramping and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, funny. The funny thing is we had so I

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Speaker 1: had him out on the pod. Okay, I had him

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Speaker 1: on the pod like two weeks ago. And his first question,

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Speaker 1: which we joked about, was like I was like, listen,

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Speaker 1: gonna make it so sexy and he was like, how

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Speaker 1: are the cherish in my back? And I feel like

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Speaker 1: Chris can relate because nobody knows that in most most

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Speaker 1: days on Gray's Anatomy. You're in pain.

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Speaker 5: It's true. It's true. Like I don't know if if

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Speaker 5: this will still be rolling when I get up from

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Speaker 5: this couch, but it would sound something like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm dating like an eighty year

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Speaker 1: old on the show.

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Speaker 2: Where do you grant that you're pain too? Because Matt

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Speaker 2: has a whole back thing. So what's yours?

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Speaker 1: Knees, just knees, the knees your feet. You get a

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Speaker 1: lot of foot crap. We do a love scene. Nobody

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Speaker 1: knows this. We should talk about this. When we do

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Speaker 1: a love scene on Gray's Anatomy, it looks that we're

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Speaker 1: really it looks like we're super passionate, right, It actually

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Speaker 1: is because Chris is so much pain. He always gets

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Speaker 1: a foot crimp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I bite my lip and I'm like, yeah, no, God.

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Speaker 1: There's romantic together. I'm like, no, Chris really needs the

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Speaker 2: Love ecstasy and pain so close together.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the agony in.

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Speaker 1: The extasy agony, Yes, absolutely, Chris.

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Speaker 3: You get the phone call. Yes, but they want you

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Speaker 3: to come to Gray's Anatomy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, how much do you.

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Speaker 2: Know and what do you know?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Well, when I was asked to come.

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Speaker 1: On, we didn't even have to audition.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I had a feeling the people like you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you.

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Speaker 5: People like you. I'm so happy. I'm just happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not happy for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy You're an offer only actor.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 2: Incoming calls for Chris Comrack.

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Speaker 5: I was. I hadn't seen the show in quite a

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Speaker 5: long time, so I had a lot of catching up

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Speaker 5: to do because I had watched, you know, the first

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Speaker 5: few seasons back in the day, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: and then I had to catch up. So I was

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Speaker 5: watching season fourteen with I think it was your wedding,

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Speaker 5: and was obvi not expecting to end up a love

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Speaker 5: interest for Joe. But I knew we had this past,

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Speaker 5: this pass together and this friendship, and of course you

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Speaker 5: suspect at some point that it's going to be a

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Speaker 5: foil for Joe's relationship, like maybe it's yeah, spoil Joe

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Speaker 5: and Alex. A little trickery that developed in its own

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Speaker 3: New actors get hired, because the show leans so heavily

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Speaker 3: on creating great couples, most of the time, when someone

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Speaker 3: gets hired, they're they're there for someone, so did did

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Speaker 1: Were you there for someone?

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Speaker 5: I was there as like the as the triangle with

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Speaker 5: Meredith were kind of having a thing. And then uh wait,

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Speaker 5: I have a question.

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Speaker 2: I have a question.

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Speaker 1: Did you know who was going to win? Because you did?

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Speaker 1: You lost that throat?

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Speaker 5: I did. I did.

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Speaker 2: Oliver would have been totally not as valuable.

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Speaker 5: I lost terribly. I don't know what to attribute it too.

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Speaker 5: It might have been exactly. No, I wasn't groaning as

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Speaker 1: He was younger and spry I was. We just talked

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Speaker 1: about this too.

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Speaker 5: We were just watching some of our old scenes side.

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Speaker 1: We were we were on set and we were watching

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Speaker 1: our old scenes on Monday, and we were talking about

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Speaker 1: how I was. Like I was like, look, just like,

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Speaker 1: look how skinny I was, And it was like, you

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Speaker 1: were really skinny. You just allow you the listeners out there, you're.

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Speaker 3: Completing the fantasy people have aboad actors, which is that

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Speaker 3: you're admitting that you sat there watching old scenes of yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well actually no, wait, no, no, we don't.

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Speaker 5: For fun, just to admire ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We just loved our work so much. Nous when we're

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Speaker 1: potentially out there auditioning, and so we were talking about

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Speaker 1: actually felt like really great about this scene, and then

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Speaker 1: you watch it back and you're like, maybe not so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: In your mind, like I know what my reel is

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Speaker 5: gonna be. I'm gonna cut this scene, this scene, this scene,

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Speaker 5: and then you look back at it You're like, I was.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, if it wasn't as good as you remembered it,

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Speaker 3: I think I would blame the editor.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. That makes sense, exactly right. Okay, so you got

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Speaker 3: You lost, I lost, but they liked you so much

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Speaker 3: even if even if he loses.

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Speaker 2: We're just he's so winning.

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Speaker 3: Because, by the way, let me say this, because I

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Speaker 2: You you are so winning. I mean I watched the scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a minute. She's a huge OC fan.

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Speaker 5: Awesome.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I also am just sort of wildly impressed by the

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Speaker 1: I mean I was listening.

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Speaker 2: It's funny we're giving me kind of you were giving

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Speaker 2: James marsdeny vibes for me because.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I like that, right?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Well, because he was on Dak Shepherd's podcast talking about Paradise,

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Speaker 3: he was talking about having been having grown up not

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Speaker 3: so I was just sort of like, again, we don't

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Speaker 3: I think it's so interesting how we all start in

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Speaker 3: this business and and that we get to be all

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Speaker 1: And now here you are.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's a lot of that's a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff and all very cool stuff.

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Speaker 5: And also fast. Because I'm so young, I've done it.

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Speaker 1: I've done it in such a.

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's yeah, it's all it's you know, over

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Speaker 5: many many years and and you know, I kind of

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Speaker 5: consider myself a bit of a journeyman actor you know,

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Speaker 5: I've done theater all over and I'm fortunate to have

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Speaker 5: been you know, series regular on three shows now, which

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Speaker 5: is which is, which is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I can't say that.

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Speaker 3: Which looks easy out there to people who are listening,

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Speaker 3: but it actually is not, and it's not an easy thing.

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Speaker 5: Here's an interesting factor, because you're asking about how it

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Speaker 5: came on to Greece. I have never other than pilots

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Speaker 5: that didn't make it, I have never actually booked a

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Speaker 5: series regular role. I've come on to every show as

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Speaker 5: a guest star and then been made a series regular.

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Speaker 2: Well, by the way we share this in comments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, say pilots that I ever did.

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Speaker 3: Nope, No, I mean number one of the call sheets,

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Speaker 3: I were like, this is my share didn't get picked up.

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Speaker 1: There's something about us that screams we've got to like

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Speaker 1: test drive them, right, like we're test drives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're old?

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Speaker 5: I got so much crap from friends, which was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's what I often see. So I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah we're on a bag.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you were working on a different kind of chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's so great.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't fight with you.

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Speaker 2: I I was like, while you were talking, I was

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Speaker 3: No, no, I listened. I listened to your podcast. Matt

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Speaker 5: Do you remember our rehearsals? Yeah? I love. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: it felt weird because it almost felt like I Joe

447
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: was taking advantage of Link a little bit because he's

448
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: upset over Amelia and he's like five whiskeys in. For

449
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: some reason, Joe's a little bit like, now's my chance.

450
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't feel romantic.

451
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 5: Actually, uh, you're gonna have to remind me. Where do

452
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 5: you remember?

453
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: Okay?

454
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 5: I where were Where was the.

455
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: Scene we're in Jackson's apartment and we're sat on the

456
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: floor next to each other, and you're really upset about Amelia,

457
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: and then I think, I go in for a kiss

458
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: with you, and we start making out and then they

459
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: end up being on the floor together. It was so

460
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: significant looking at his face, Chris literally can't remember anything.

461
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 1: He might be more goldfish than me. He is more

462
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: goldfish than you. Do you not remember?

463
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember the day.

464
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday. Great, yeah, great, I have to dig. No,

465
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, Chris. This is not good for

466
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: her self esteem.

467
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 5: I don't remember.

468
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, just hit him with another I remember.

469
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, I remember, like, this isn't about me,

470
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 3: but I was. I. Yeah, I definitely could not forget

471
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: my first kiss CALLI.

472
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

473
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: That was so iconic though.

474
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: That was a thing. Yeah, it was like we were Joe's.

475
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: It was like in the bathroom.

476
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: Was it the first lesbian kiss on the show?

477
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: No, because she'd been with no Erica.

478
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she knew with Erica.

479
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: And then Erica wasn't there anymore, and then I was

480
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: there and then I was like you I was the

481
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 3: guest star, and I.

482
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: Didn't I actually didn't. I didn't come for anyone.

483
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: I came for a medical case, which you know, I

484
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 3: knew probably wasn't going to.

485
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Both medical day for it's the theme of our show.

486
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 5: Come for the medical.

487
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 3: So when So when you came and you knew you

488
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 3: were did you did you love it right away? And like,

489
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: did you know I really want to stay here so

490
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: I need to? Did you feel that pressure like I

491
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 3: got to figure out who I'm going to be with?

492
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: Because you do.

493
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 3: I felt that pressure when I was there, Like I

494
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 3: remember people talking about it, like if you whenever or

495
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 3: was the Cali and I broke up?

496
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: I remember someone it.

497
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: Probably was you being like you gotta be.

498
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: With someone and I was like, wait what I always

499
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: be on my own?

500
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: Nope, can't be on your own, not on that show.

501
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: That is a good question. When you realized that it

502
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the Meredith had chosen somebody else, did you worry

503
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: that that was your end on the show.

504
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had no idea what the future on the

505
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 5: show was going to be. And I'll say this too.

506
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 5: You say like, did I immediately feel like it was,

507
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 5: you know, the right place for me? The answer is like,

508
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 5: no way, Because this show has been on.

509
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: For so long.

510
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for so long.

511
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 5: And the characters that I've been working with have been

512
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 5: on the show for so long. After I'd been on

513
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 5: the show for six years, I remember turning to Kevin

514
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 5: mckidt and saying, I finally don't feel like the new guy. Yeah,

515
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 5: it takes so long on a show like this to

516
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 5: not feel like new guy.

517
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

518
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 5: And it wasn't because anybody made you feel on It's

519
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 5: because it's.

520
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: It's so established, so established.

521
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's And you know what, I'm not saying anything

522
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: that hasn't said been said before, but I haven't said it.

523
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: I came on season five and because the show was

524
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: such a huge hit, and because it was actually sort

525
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 3: of famous for having had some rocky behind the scenes action,

526
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: Like there was so much stuff happening, which I think

527
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: is kind of typical of something that's that successful. But

528
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: I remember coming in and there was such a I

529
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: don't think it's there anymore, but there was such a

530
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: feeling of there was like a tear system. It's like, yeah,

531
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: there was a hierarchy to who had been there, how

532
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: long they'd been there, how comfortable they were or weren't.

533
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: I mean, these were people who on some level again

534
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: because of just how successful the show was and how

535
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: much was being thrown at them.

536
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: That kind of I don't know why everyone makes the analogy.

537
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: To war, but like they'd kind of been to war,

538
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: and like they navigated all these things, and then I

539
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: was kind of I came after that, so I too

540
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: was new to that, And I completely agree with you.

541
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: I did not feel firmly in place until many years

542
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: into it. Yeah, Like it was always the people who

543
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: were there from the beginning, and then it was the

544
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: new people they came in.

545
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: I felt the hierarchy too, but I don't think that

546
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: that exists now, and I.

547
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 5: Wouldn't personally describe my experience as a higher archy.

548
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: No, I think it had gone by that.

549
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: No, I think by then, back in season nine when

550
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: I joined, I think it was I still felt that.

551
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, And something happens too. As an actor on a show,

552
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: when you've been on it for years, you know, your

553
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: backstory and your relationships with all the other characters and

554
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 5: actors becomes so ingrained and second nature. It actually your

555
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: work gets better, your work gets more mature. You don't

556
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 5: have to do a lot of the work because you know,

557
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 5: I don't have to build these characters in my mind.

558
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 5: I don't have to do the acting work. I've known

559
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 5: them for seven years and I know their characters, and

560
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: I know everything we've been through together. We've actually acted

561
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 5: those scenes together.

562
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so well said, and I completely agree.

563
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 5: And coming on to a show like that, I remember

564
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 5: just being blown away by the actors that were around me.

565
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: I was I said, oh my god, they're so good.

566
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 5: Everybody is so talented. And it's true.

567
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: I think they're so good too. I think they're so good.

568
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: I mean, and the writing is so good, but there's

569
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: also you know, there's such the storylines are so dramatic

570
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 3: that you you know, I think in the in the

571
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: hands of lesser actors, which I don't mean not unkindly,

572
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: but like it's more the compliment. The actors are so

573
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: great that when something crazy happens, like there's she's not

574
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: my mother, she's my sister, whatever, you actually completely believe

575
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: it because yeah, it's.

576
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: So good, you know, you're like, yeah, okay, yeah, of.

577
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: Course they are. Of course they are. I also feel

578
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: really lucky because and we talked with the other day

579
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: because we shop together all on Monday and some of

580
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: our scenes were just ridiculous, Like really, they're funny, right,

581
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: And we get to do the fact that on our

582
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: show we get to play comedy and drama. Yes, so

583
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: that's not every show. Like we're so lucky that we

584
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: get those really deep, dramatic scenes and then we get

585
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: scenes that are completely ridiculous that are so fun, and

586
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: so I actually feel really fulfilled as an actor, Like

587
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: I feel like we get to do we get to

588
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: play a lot.

589
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: There is somebody who said what you just said, Chris,

590
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: about the fact that, like, when you've been playing a

591
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: character for so long, you know them better than anyone.

592
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: I remember.

593
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: It must have been when I was not feeling so

594
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: new anymore. But there was, you know, because if we

595
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: get a somewhat new direct I mean there's a couple

596
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: of directors that come a couple of times, but when

597
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: you're shooting twenty four episodes, you have had a lot

598
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: of different directors. And I remember it was a new director,

599
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: and I don't know that they were a favorite.

600
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: They were someone who was just maybe not everybody's favorite.

601
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: There's been some we've cycled through.

602
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had ones that just came and maybe it just.

603
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't a good fit, right, And this particular person who

604
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: was not a good fit was giving me a little

605
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: bit of direction. And I remember being like, oh, I

606
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: think I've gotten to the point.

607
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Where I know what I would do more than maybe

608
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: this visiting person.

609
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it wasn't an ego thing.

610
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 2: It was just like, oh, yeah, I've been here, I've

611
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: been here a minute.

612
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and and when you come on to a

613
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: show and everyone's lived in their characters, so yeah for

614
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: so long, that's very intimidating. Yeah, I finally feel like

615
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 5: I'm one of those people on the show.

616
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was very inteneting to Camilla when we

617
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: first met.

618
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just and I we have a backstory off Filly.

619
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: When Chris don't worry without Justin, you don't need to, Okay,

620
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: So I am using our podcast as a little bit

621
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: of exclusive shit for grades now. A last week, Joe

622
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: and Link got engaged on the show, which was a

623
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: really big episode. So I want to pick Chris's brain

624
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: because he did the engagement speech. And you know that

625
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: when you have to do an engagement speech on Grey's Anatomy,

626
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: we've done You've done a couple of really big love

627
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: speeches actually for Joe, and there's something towards a finale

628
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: that's going to blow everyone's minds. It's just crazy. Do

629
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: you feel the pressure of that, Like, Okay, it's a

630
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: greats anatomy engagement, this is like the moment as an

631
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: actor going into it.

632
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: No, And I'll tell you really yeah, And I'll tell

633
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: you why, because, particularly with this Joe and Link love story,

634
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: it feels so earned. Yeah, and it feels so lived

635
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 5: in and really slow burned, so that it felt like

636
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 5: we've been holding it back.

637
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: I agree, you know, And it felt good.

638
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: And write and cathartic to do it. So I really

639
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: actually felt more like finally than the pressure of it.

640
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to respond to something because tv line

641
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: dot com they do this thing where they're like the

642
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: quotes of the week or the episodes of the week,

643
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: and they kind of analyze and ask questions about it.

644
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: And one of the things that came out this week

645
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: was about our engagement last week, and it said would

646
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: Joe Wilson really have said yes so quickly to Link?

647
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: And I was like interested after two disastrous marriages? And

648
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: I went to the comments because I know what I think,

649
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: and I went to the comments to see what people

650
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: were saying, and everyone was like, no, it doesn't not

651
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: make sense that she would say yes so quickly because

652
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: their friendship has gone on for so long, there's so

653
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: much trust there, And that's exactly how I feel. I'm

654
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: responding to tv line.

655
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: I love tv line. It doesn't not make sense.

656
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no, yes, yes I did it. Yes, it makes

657
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: sense that she said yes so quickly, was what the

658
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: comments are saying. They're saying it makes sense. They were

659
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: asking whether it made sense. They're like, would it really

660
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: have made sense that she's not like, wait a second, agot.

661
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: She's also pregnant with twin She's I mean, this is

662
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: not like.

663
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that there's something Yes, but I

664
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: wonder if, like I would imagine if she did have

665
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: any PTSD about it, it would be like, maybe if we

666
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: seal the deal, it'll go wrong, like it's gonna torpedo something.

667
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 5: She has like a that built in.

668
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: Maybe possibly, But I didn't carry that because that's not

669
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: what the scene was. And I if we had had

670
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: to play that, I would have played that, but we didn't,

671
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: and it made sense to me to not have to

672
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: play it because I felt like again, it's it has

673
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: been such a long time. We played so many years

674
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: of a friend just pure friendship, which you don't see

675
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: a lot on the show. There's usually like right off

676
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: the bat, some sort of like something like you kind

677
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: of hate each other or you're kind of in you know,

678
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: we played pure friendship. So the yes made so much sense.

679
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: And the other thing too is I have this experience

680
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: with with with friends in my life that I've known

681
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: since childhood that when you are with them, you I

682
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 5: don't want to say you revert to children, but you

683
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: you feel so safe. Yeah, feel so so free. They've

684
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: known you your your whole life, and they really know

685
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 5: the essence of who you are and the experiences that

686
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: you've had in life beyond that friendship and since that

687
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: friendship started almost don't matter to that friendship. And because

688
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: Lincoln Joe we're friends before a lot of this trauma

689
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: that Joe has experienced, I almost feel like there's that

690
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: reverting to safety bubble, if that makes it. I don't

691
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: think I said that very well.

692
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, that makes sense. Did you get what?

693
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

694
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense. So you know your history, your

695
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: history helps you.

696
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I also do think that our natural chemistry in real

697
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: life helps with the chemistry we have on the show,

698
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: which is which is always right. But I think that

699
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: we have also just our own thing that helps.

700
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: And do you guys, because you know, I mean, I

701
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: just am not as current, But do you push play

702
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: in a lot of passion in this in this situation,

703
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: you guys do just have a whole day of passion.

704
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: A lot of passion.

705
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: We had a lot of she's out here and there's

706
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of Yeah, we just

707
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: had to play a lot of passion. I think that

708
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: they keep it sexy still even though she's you know, got.

709
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 5: Two babies, because there might be more in there by now,

710
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 5: who knows. I don't know how anatomy works.

711
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to town, baby, there's eight or nine

712
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: of them in there. Now, watch out, ors. I may

713
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: play a doctor on TV, but I'm not sure.

714
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just the bone guy.

715
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of fans want to watch.

716
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: I want to this question, and you can be honest,

717
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be offended, truly, She's already she's

718
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: given you a back. No, there are people that still

719
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: love Link and Amelia together. So do you think honestly,

720
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: because you know, we do this, we do the game

721
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: of chess on grays Anatomy. Is there any part of

722
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: you that thinks that really Link should have ended up

723
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: with Amelia. Maybe the better storyline was to mix it up.

724
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: No, I don't. I think Lincoln Amelia were incompatible on

725
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: a lot of levels, and I think they could have.

726
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 5: I think they could have made it work. But I

727
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 5: think Lincoln Amelia are old enough and responsible enough and

728
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 5: loved each other enough that they that they could have

729
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 5: made it work. But I think it was contentious in

730
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 5: a lot of ways. Yeah. And and a lot of

731
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 5: my best scenes with Katerina were Lincoln Amelia like fight.

732
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

733
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 5: And and it's just, you know, it's more fun to

734
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 5: come to work and laugh, you know, than than to

735
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 5: work on these conflicts.

736
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: And it's more sustainable. It's more sustainable.

737
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

738
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: And Lincoln Joe just get to laugh a lot, which

739
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 5: is really.

740
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: Nice we do. Yeah. And do you like the medical stuff?

741
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: I do like the medical stuff. I will say that

742
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: I feel like orthopedic Is is one of like the

743
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 5: more boring.

744
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: I disagree. I totally was thinking was what Cali was. No,

745
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: I think the opposite.

746
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like, oh no.

747
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if you're if you're brain doctoring,

748
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: you're right, you're just like this all the time.

749
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: People tiny little tiny.

750
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: With you, you get tiny, you're like smashing. Yeah, I think

751
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: it's so cool.

752
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: No, that's that is cool. That is cool. But very

753
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 5: rarely am I involved in like the trauma or the

754
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 5: life saving aspect.

755
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

756
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: You know, it's like most of it is like planned

757
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: procedures and or I'm kind of like the guy who's

758
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 5: fixing the bones. Wow, the heart is being worked on,

759
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: and and I don't get a lot of those like

760
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 5: hero doctor w Yeah.

761
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know who used to get a lot

762
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: of that? That used to be jealous of Sarah Drew

763
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: had she was a trauma sert on the show. She

764
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: just had like patient beds being wheeled in from an

765
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: ambulance and she was on top of the person.

766
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: Doing doing chest impressions and I.

767
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Was like, you look awesome. Yeah, like you got like

768
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: the hero all the time. And the camera shoots as well.

769
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: Suited for her too though, because she had that kind

770
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: of energy.

771
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: And cardiothoracic is great. You know, it's like yeah, you

772
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: know Winston gets to walk off. Yeah. Yeah, just just

773
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: saved your life with a new surgery that didn't exist

774
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 5: ten minutes ago, you know. And I'm like, you will

775
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 5: probably regain full mobility and you'll be able to play

776
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 5: the piano again in six to eight months. Boring. I mean, look,

777
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 5: I've had orthopedic surgeons work on my knees and help

778
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: me out in life, and it's very important. It's just

779
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: not as exciting.

780
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, I got now that you say that,

781
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: I realized it's so boring.

782
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: She's gonna leave me, just gonna leave me.

783
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Oh, you're just not doing it for me anymore. You

784
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: can always change.

785
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: I changed, I changed, You could just change a million times.

786
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Me and Ben Warren.

787
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll try to like intern with with Winston on

788
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: cardiothoracic and I'm working on the heart. Yeah, you're just

789
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: like yeah, and he's like no, no, no, calm down, come down.

790
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a storyline when you guys feel a little

791
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: a little lull in the passion.

792
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: And you're like I need to up my game, I

793
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: need to get sexier. What can I do? And then

794
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: you're like it's cardio.

795
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never been bones for me. Yeah, yeah, that's

796
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: a line that could be in there.

797
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

798
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: Sure, let's tease a little bit of our season finale. Okay,

799
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: we are shooting it right now, you are.

800
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the part of the show where I'm

801
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: sick of being your third and I'm getting out of here.

802
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you guys talk about the season finale

803
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: and all the secrets that it holds and have all

804
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: of your chemistry and all your passion.

805
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right.

806
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: How are you? We love you, we miss you. But

807
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: she's thank you so much for coming on.

808
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you.

809
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: It was great to see you. Okay, so we are

810
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: and then I do have to ask you some of

811
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: oc questions because you're not going to be happy. We

812
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: have a rapid fire at the end. Okay, let's tease

813
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: a little bit our finale because we're shooting it right now.

814
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 5: Yep.

815
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: And what is one word to just well, first off,

816
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: we have to say that we did the table read

817
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: and it was.

818
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know, the table read was was coming

819
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: in hot, and.

820
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: I you know, sometimes we have finales, I'm like, that's

821
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: a great finale, and then sometimes it feels like, oh shit,

822
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: like this is a finale that is going to like

823
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: e one of those ones that people won't forget. And

824
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: I feel like after reading it, that was this finale?

825
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: How what is a word? I'm trying to be so cryptic.

826
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: There's a great episode seventeen. So we have eighteen episodes

827
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: this season. Episode seventeen, it's a really huge episode for

828
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Joe Link. I don't know how to tease that.

829
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 5: Oh right, seventeen, right right, gotch Oh my god, Chrissy.

830
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: We just shot it. A huge episode for Joe and Links.

831
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: We're throwing around numbers. Seventeen.

832
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: So the episode we just shot is the episode before

833
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: the finale, episode seventeen. It's a huge Joe Link episode.

834
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: We can't say what it is, probably, but it's a

835
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: really big episode and we had a lot of fun.

836
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: We did a lot and we have a really great

837
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: guest star that you guys are going to be so

838
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: excited about.

839
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys are gonna be stoked.

840
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for real, you guys are going to be

841
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: so excited, and uh, the finale is super dramatic, completely

842
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: different episode seventeen.

843
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's a quick turnaround.

844
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: It's a very quick turnaround. And what is one word

845
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: that you would use to describe it. Don't say what

846
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: I think, because it's so if you say that word,

847
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: which could work is so obvious one word, sure, okay,

848
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: go you can have more words if you need more.

849
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: All I can think of is the way I know,

850
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: I know, I know you can't say that though.

851
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 5: It's it's gripping, all right.

852
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's let you down. Okay, okay, okay,

853
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: hang on, let me think, let me think. Oh, I

854
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: would describe it with one word. I think that it.

855
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: Is unrelenting, yes, actually, but it does relent a little.

856
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 5: We have we have the only relenting scenes, which turns

857
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: out to be a pretty comedic beat.

858
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Yes, we're the only comedic beats in that episode. Yeah,

859
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: it on our Lenting is a great word. I think

860
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: that it's it's gonna feel like it's super fast paced.

861
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: There's so much happening, so much strong. Yeah, yeah, you

862
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: won't be able to like I wouldn't even I really

863
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: couldn't breathe during the table read. I was like holding

864
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: my breath the whole time. And I am one of

865
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: those actors that like, I like to read our scenes

866
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: and then I don't read anything else, not like a

867
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: selfish way, but because during the table read, I like

868
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: to hear the episode for the first time, and so

869
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I was hearing the ending for the first time, and

870
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I was like so shocked. Really, I mean those last

871
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: few pages, I was like, oh my god. So you

872
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: guys have a lot to look forward to. Okay, let's

873
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: talk about the OC real quick. People want to know

874
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: if you keep in touch with anyone from the OC,

875
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: not like regularly.

876
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: I've heard from you know, Rachel and Melinda. They've got

877
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 5: a podcast.

878
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you went on their podcast, your podcast.

879
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: And and and I've run into Peter Gallagher.

880
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: He's been on our show show I.

881
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: Forgot, and I worked with his daughter in Nashville, and

882
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: and so we've kind of been in touch over the years.

883
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 5: But but not like I mean, we don't hang out. Yeah.

884
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, to be honest, we shoot almost nine months

885
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Speaker 1: of the year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I've got two little kids.

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Speaker 1: We have kids, and so there's not a lot of

888
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Speaker 1: free time.

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Speaker 5: There's not a lot of there isn't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, rapid fire questions. Okay, so one question that we

891
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: got a lot, it's the call at Cruise Dream. Adam

892
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Brody is having a big moment right now. With nobody

893
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: wants this. They are asked wanting to know if you

894
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: would love to recollaborate with him and do something with

895
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Speaker 1: him in the future.

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Speaker 5: Of course I would. I would love to re collaborate

897
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Speaker 5: with all of the all of that.

898
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: I feel like you would be great on that show

899
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: to like guest star.

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Speaker 5: Sure, let's put that out that.

901
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: Please, let's get Carmack on that show. Okay, rapid fire.

902
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: If Link ever left Grace Loan, how would you want

903
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: his story to end.

904
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Speaker 5: If he left Grace Loan? Yeah?

905
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Would you?

906
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: He gets he finally gets recruited into the major leagues,

907
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: Oh God.

908
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: And leaves Joe behind and the dust looking after the kids.

909
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 5: He finally follows his passion as a baseball player, and

910
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 5: the Mariners realize how good of a pitcher he was

911
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: with your knees pitcher?

912
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Speaker 1: Do you need knees for a picture?

913
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: Probably?

914
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Okay? Who on the cast would you trust a babysit

915
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Speaker 1: your kids?

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Speaker 5: Not Joe Wilson, No way.

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Speaker 1: I would trust Link, but I would try. I would

918
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Speaker 1: trust Bailey.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Bailey, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Bailey, I would trust to Okay, who would you want

921
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Speaker 1: to come back to the show dead or alive?

922
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 5: Well? I mean a whole bunch of dead characters back

923
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Speaker 5: we did during the COVID season.

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Speaker 1: I always say, Capshaw, I'm going to add in Jake Burrelly.

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Speaker 5: He's not dead. Oh, but he's alive. Yeah, I said

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Speaker 5: dead or alive? Yeah. No, Jake Brelly we had a

927
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Speaker 5: lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And he's such a good foil for Joe.

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Speaker 1: And but you've had great scenes with him too.

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Speaker 5: Also, Jake is just a gem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's an incredible actor. He's someone that can

933
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Speaker 1: seamlessly go back and forth between comedy and drama. So

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Speaker 1: I feel my answer would be Jake and Jessica, but

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Speaker 1: it's Jake yours.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now you feel the pressure to say Jake,

938
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Speaker 1: You're like, no, not, no, no.

939
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Speaker 5: I mean my first thought was if we're taking dead

940
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Speaker 5: or alive, I mean, if you could resurrect Derek.

941
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there was a way, I know,

942
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, listen, I was a McDreamy,

943
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: uh Meredith fan. So I don't I don't hate that

944
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Speaker 1: answer at all. Okay, if from the Oh, this is

945
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Speaker 1: a great one. If Luke from the O C walked

946
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Speaker 1: into Gray Slow Hospital.

947
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: Young Luke is coming in with like gigantically alarming swollen

948
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 5: testicles from what from the surfing accident?

949
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: I was like, is this a huge case of his.

950
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 5: The fin on his surfboard got him caught the balls

951
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: he caught? Yeah, yeah, I.

952
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: Can imagine that. I was going to say that you

953
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Speaker 1: your no shark bite, a shark bite. No, I was

954
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: going to say that you got into a fight broken nose.

955
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: Oh well yeah, but that's boring.

956
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I like the balls from the Who

957
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: from the cast would be your emergency contact?

958
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 5: Who from We're not on We're not on the o

959
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 5: C anymore, We're not on the o C.

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00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Who from the cast would be your emergency contact? I'm

961
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: right here from the cast? From the cast, you do

962
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: the cast, and then you do the characters.

963
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: Oh, we're doing the cast for the characters.

964
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: If you were in jail, like, who would you call?

965
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: I'd call Jim Pickens. I feel like Jim can get

966
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: us out.

967
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 5: Maybe Kevin McKidd Kevin.

968
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: Kevin could get us out of jail.

969
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 5: I think Kevin could bail me out, can break me out.

970
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: If you had, Kevin could break you out. I think

971
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Jim could sweet talk us out. Geting one call from Jim,

972
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, well.

973
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: That's the thing is like Jim probably knows the sheriff.

974
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.

975
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got deep connections.

976
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Character Wise, who would you call emergency? Well, I hope

977
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: you call me.

978
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. Character wise I love that.

979
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: Real life, it wouldn't be me.

980
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, I think you live all the way across, Like,

981
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 5: there's just no way it would take too ye yeah.

982
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah you're thinking of the traffic. No, that's a good point. Yeah,

983
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: it took me hours to get to you. Who from

984
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: the cast would you pick as your best man in

985
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: real life if you were to get married today?

986
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 5: Who from the asked? From the cast?

987
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: Again? I would pick Jim Pickens.

988
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 5: He looks good standing up there in a suit.

989
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Jim Pickens is the best dressed out

990
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: of all the guys.

991
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 5: He always looks.

992
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: He looks, Yeah, he looks amazing.

993
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: Always.

994
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: Would I pick you?

995
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 5: Say? How how do you do? Well?

996
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: You know when costumes dresses, you look great.

997
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: I often can't even find matching shoes in my house.

998
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you fine? Okay. People want to know, Well, this

999
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: is hard because you're with me, so I don't know

1000
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: if you can answer this truthfully. But do you think

1001
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Joe and Linker endgame?

1002
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: I do? Yeah, I do too, which means which.

1003
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: Means they which we're going to destroy these two, I mean,

1004
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: I hope. So it's hard to be endgame on our show,

1005
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: it is.

1006
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 5: I mean, how can you be endgame? If you if

1007
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 5: you're endgame, that's like story feels kind of over.

1008
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you think the link like has to be

1009
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: a sort of endgame with Joe? Otherwise it's like, Hey,

1010
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: this is my baby mama Emilia and my other baby

1011
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: mama Joe. But like, let me let's day. You have

1012
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: quite the voice do you wish they were on the

1013
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: show for when the musical episode happened?

1014
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 5: The musical episode is is yes? The answer is yes, Yeah, Yeah,

1015
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 5: it's it's it's so either loved or hated. Yeah, divisive, but.

1016
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I as gonna say, because it's been so divisive,

1017
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: it's iconic for sure.

1018
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: So I would have loved to have been on it. Also,

1019
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 5: I love asking Kevin about it. I don't know if

1020
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: he's come on the show. He's Oh, no, we're.

1021
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Gonna have Kevin on the show. Kevin has some great stories.

1022
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: He's got some great story.

1023
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we have to know. He has some great

1024
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: musical EPs those stories too, for sure. Okay, I personally

1025
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: want to know because I have heard you sing if

1026
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: you could be like a live action Disney character in

1027
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: a movie, who would it be.

1028
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: Oh well, I'd have to be a prince, which one though.

1029
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: There's so many. Do you know who I think you

1030
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: could have been or could be? Fin Ryder?

1031
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: That was actually the one I was thinking.

1032
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, yeah, I'll be your Rapunzel. They get you

1033
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: tangled together, they just got to age it up, so

1034
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, it's gonna take us a long

1035
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: time to get down the tower tangled. Yeah, I'm like, God,

1036
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: this is sticking forever.

1037
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: Okay.

1038
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: Chris Clamorerck, I love you. Everyone has wanted you on

1039
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: the pod literally since I started. And the truth is

1040
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: is you were supposed to come on and then we

1041
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: hit pause because we were filming. But also I was like,

1042
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: let's recap our engagement episode, which was so by the way,

1043
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: I have to say this, Jesse Williams directed that episode,

1044
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes when we do these scenes together, I'm like

1045
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: completely enthralled, where I even forget like my next line

1046
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: and it happened also in the episode not last season,

1047
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: the finale before when we were in the rain and

1048
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: we were talking about and I was so romanticized, I

1049
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's the word. Sure, romanticized by

1050
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: your engagement, and so I was very happy to say

1051
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: yes to it.

1052
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: Oh Will, and.

1053
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: Not reject all the rings I ammiliated. Please come back

1054
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: on the show, because hopefully these two are together forever

1055
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: and we'll have lots more to discuss. Everyone, let's call

1056
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: it the end of the episode.

1057
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Speaker 7: You met me literally during the most difficult chapter in

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