1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there, 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jovan Strickland. 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and How the 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: tech are You. 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: So it is Friday. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: It's time for a classic episode, which means we dive 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: into the tech Stuff archive and pull out an episode 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: from our past to listen to. This one, originally published 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: on June thirty, twenty seventeen, is called The History of 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Electricity Part two. Let's have a listen. Today, we're going 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: to continue our series about the history of electricity. We're 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: going to conclude it today, although we're concluding it right 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: when electric power grids were starting to become a real thing. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: But since that point, a lot of the changes are 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: more in electricity generation and less in electricity transmission. And 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I really wanted to get to the point where we 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: talked about transmitting electricity. 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: Maybe in a future episode. 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I will continue this and revisit the topic and give 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: more context from the early power grids up to modern day, 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: and also talk about some of the other various projects 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: that haven't really materialized, stuff like Tesla's suggestion of broadcasting 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: power over the air, as opposed to over transmission lines 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: and what would that take and would it be a 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: good idea, But. 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: That's for another episode. 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: In our last episode, we explored how scientists, philosophers, inventors, 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: and crazy people began to suss out the basics of electricity, 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: largely through a lot of experimentation and a few happy accidents. Now, 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: this story is one of those that really reinforces the 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: fact that discoveries are rarely attributable to a single person. 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: We like those stories. 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: We like to say this one person was responsible for X, 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: and this other person and was responsible for why. But 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the truth is way more complicated than that. Usually people 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: are building upon the work of others that came before them, 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: and they might be refining things and innovating in that space. 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: But if it weren't for those who were earlier working 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: on the same sort of stuff, you might not have 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: ever seen those innovations happen. So, you know, we talk 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: about stuff like Edison invented the light bulb, or Alexander 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: Graham Bell invented the telephone, but we really would have 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: to acknowledge some of the other people whose work made 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: all of that possible. First of all, Edison didn't invent 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: the light bulb, but he did improve it greatly. But 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: we would need to talk about all that stuff. And 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: this is not to take away from those inventors and 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: engineers who really did make incredible contributions to technology and 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: to our way of life. They are remarkable human beings 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: and so I don't want to take anything away from them. 51 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't. 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Want to ignore those who also made other contributions that 53 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: made all of this possible. It's a disservice to them 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: to gloss over it. So it would be also very 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: difficult to make an hour long podcast if in fact 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: most inventions were due to a single person's moment of ingenuity, Right, 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: if the story were as simple as Thomas s and 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: invented the light bulb. I don't know that I can 59 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: make an hour out of that. Probably about forty minutes, 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I could stretch it to 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: a full hour. Now. By the end of the last episode, 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: I talked about an early alternating current generator and how 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: by using what was called a split ring commutator, early 64 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: inventors could change that alternating current that was being created 65 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: in the generator into direct current. Just so you remember 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: alternating current, the direction of current revers it is multiple 67 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: times per second. There're cycles, and we describe them in frequencies. So, 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: for example, here in the United States, we have a 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: sixty hertz frequency for our electricity for our alternating current. 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: That means sixty times per second that direction of current changes. 71 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at a wire stretching from left 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: to right, that means that current would be flowing left 73 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: to right and then right to left, and it would 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: keep changing sixty times every second, whereas in Europe it 75 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: would be fifty times. They're on a fifty system and 76 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: not a sixty hert system. More on that and a 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Direct current, however, goes in a single direction. 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: It does not change. So it goes from left to 79 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: right or right to left, but it doesn't change throughout 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: the It doesn't have cycles. It just continues until you 81 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: shut the power off, in which case the current ceases 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: to flow. Now, I want to continue the timeline we 83 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: talked about in that last episode, talk more about how 84 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: electricity moved out of the laboratory and into the real world. 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: But in order to do that, I. 86 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Also have to backtrack just a bit from the end 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: of the last episode where I was talking about generators, 88 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: because there are some people who were working in electricity 89 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: that I didn't really mention too much in the last episode, 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: and I kind of need to in order to understand 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: more about building upon those ideas. 92 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: So one of those. 93 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: People was Humphrey Davy. I mentioned him briefly in the 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: last episode. He was one of the first people to 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: make a practical use of electricity outside of direct experimentation. 96 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: So remember in the early eighteenth century, well not early 97 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the late eighteenth century, early nineteenth century, you had inventors 98 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: and engineers who were experimenting with electricity, but they didn't 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: really have any practical use for it. Humphrey Davy was 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: the first person to create something that could be practically 101 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: used with electricity. He created the first arc lamp and 102 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: the first incandescent lamp way back in the first decade 103 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: of the eighteen hundreds. The Davy lamp became a famous invention. Now, 104 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: neither of those were meant for commercial use or manufacturing. 105 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: They weren't made to light people's homes. It was more 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: of a use case to prove that electricity could have 107 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: some practical application beyond just understanding a fundamental element of 108 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: the universe or fundamental element of life on Earth at least, 109 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: so it would be many more decades before anyone could 110 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: make a commercially viable light bulb or lamp, but Davy's 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: works showed that it was in fact possible. Also in 112 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: that last episode, I mentioned Ampier, whose last name is 113 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: used as a unit of measurement within the electrical engineering world. Anyway, 114 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned that Ampier was studying the nature of electricity 115 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: and magnets, but he was building on the work of others. 116 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: One of those others was Hans Christian Rsted, who was 117 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: a Danish philosopher and scientist and discovered something that I 118 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: mentioned in the previous episode, which was electromagnetism. Airstead heard 119 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: of Alessandro Volta's experiments with batteries, so Volta made the 120 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: voltaic pile, the predecessor to the modern battery, and Airstead 121 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: had heard about it, and by eighteen oh one Airstead 122 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: started doing his own experiments, making his own batteries, and 123 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Airstid proposed that there might be a way of measuring 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: the amount of current passing through a wire by putting 125 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: the wire into water and allowing the electricity to separate 126 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: the molecular bonds of hydrogen and oxygen, in otherwise, to 127 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: create electrolysis. And that if you measured the amount of 128 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: gas given off by the water, then you could use 129 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: that to infer how much current was passing through the wire. 130 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: It was kind of an indirect way of establishing how 131 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: much current was passing through the wire at any given moment. Now, 132 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: in eighteen twenty one, Airstead performed an experiment in which 133 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: he passed an electric current through a wire and then 134 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: brought the wire near a magnetized compass needle, and this 135 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: caused the compass needle to swing out of alignment. It 136 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: was no longer lined up with the Earth's magnetic poles. 137 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: And you know this will happen when you bring a 138 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: magnet close to a compass. The Earth's magnetic field is powerful, 139 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: but if you bring a small, less powerful magnet in 140 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: close proximity to the compass needle, you will overpower the 141 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Earth's magnetic field. The compass needle will move toward the magnet, 142 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: because again the strength of a magnetic field is somewhat 143 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:36,119 Speaker 1: dependent upon its distance to a magnetic material. Well, he said, 144 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: this shows that an electric current passing through a wire 145 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: creates its own magnetic field. It's obviously affecting these compass needles. 146 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: So he continue to experiment to better understand the nature 147 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: of electricity and magnetism, and he came to realize that 148 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: an electric current creates a circular magnetic field around it. 149 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: So if you're looking at a straight copper wire and 150 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: you turn it so that you're looking at it from 151 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: the end on, so you're looking down the length of 152 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: an electric copper wire, and you're able to run current 153 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: through that copper wire, and if you were able to 154 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: visualize the magnetic field, you would see the magnetic field 155 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: appear as a circle, and the copper wire would essentially 156 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: be the center of the circle, or at least circulure. 157 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be necessarily a perfect circle, but it would 158 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: be a circular field around the core, which would be 159 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: the wire itself. Also, although this was not understood by 160 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: Erstad at the time, if you ran an alternating current 161 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: through that wire, you would see the direction of that 162 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: magnetic field reverse. So when the current flows in one direction, 163 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: you would see it flowing in a clockwise direction, and 164 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: if you reverse the current, you would see it flow 165 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: in a counterclockwise direction. 166 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 2: This would become really important. 167 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: Later on when we talk about alternating currents and transformers. 168 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Transformers being the type of of gadget that you use 169 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: to step up or step down electric voltage, not robots 170 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: that are more than meets the eye. It's a different 171 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: type of transformer. We're going to take a quick break 172 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: from this episode about the history of electricity and thank 173 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: our sponsors. So Airston makes this observation about copper wire 174 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: with a current flowing through it becoming a magnetic force 175 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: for emitting a magnetic force, and Ampere made a similar 176 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: discovery with electric wires attracting one another whenever electricity would 177 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: flow through them. So this was the earliest observations of 178 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: electromagnetism that are recorded. In eighteen twenty four, William Sturgeon 179 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: experimented with electromagnetism by wrapping a bare wire of copper 180 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: around an iron core. You got like a just an 181 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: iron nail, and you've got some bare copper wire and 182 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: you bend the copper wire so it coils around this 183 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: iron core. Several times. He found that if he passed 184 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: a current through the wire, it would turn the whole 185 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: thing into a magnet briefly, but then the effect would disappear. 186 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: So why was the effect disappearing, Well, the current was 187 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: moving from the copper wire into the iron core of 188 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: the structure. It wasn't maintaining a current through entirely. It 189 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: was shorting out essentially. And William Sturgeon also couldn't do 190 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: a multi layer wrap of the wire because the copper 191 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: wire is conductive. If it made contact with itself, then 192 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: current is flowing in the most efficient pathway. It's not 193 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: going down the length of the copper wire necessarily, it 194 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: could pass through as coils touched each other. 195 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: So. 196 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: He wasn't able to make a very strong magnetic effect 197 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: this way. You increase the magnetic effect by making more coils. 198 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: So if you're able to coil a conductive wire more 199 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: times around a core like in this case, an iron core, 200 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: you create a more powerful magnetic field as you passed 201 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: a current through that conductor. In eighteen twenty seven, a 202 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: man named Joseph Henry found a solution to this problem. 203 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: He wrapped his copper wires in silk, which insulated them, 204 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: so now he could have the copper wires laying against 205 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: an iron core and laying against itself without the current 206 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: bleeding through because the wires were insulated, and that allowed 207 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: him to wrap the wires around the iron core several 208 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: more times than Sturgeon was able to, and that meant 209 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: the charge could not disappear into the iron and the 210 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: electromagnetic effect would remain as long as a current was passing. 211 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: Through the wire. 212 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: So this discovering electromagnetism would become incredibly important for future 213 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: applications of electricity. Meanwhile, Michael Faraday had been working with 214 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: moving copper near a stationary magnet, which would induce current 215 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: to flow through the copper. 216 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: This is the basis of generators. 217 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: Whether you are moving a conductor through the magnetic fields 218 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: of some stationary magnets, or you're moving the magnets around 219 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: a conductor so that the magnetic field is fluctuating around 220 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: the conductor. Whenever you introduce a conductor through a fluctuating 221 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: magnetic field, you're going to induce current to flow through 222 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: that metal conductor, or really I should just say conductor doesn't. 223 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: That's the important part, not whether or not it's metal. 224 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,479 Speaker 1: Also important is that it has to be that fluctuating 225 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: magnetic field, otherwise you will induce current to flow, but 226 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: as soon as the magnetic field stops to fluctuate, current 227 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: will no longer flow. So you would typically do this 228 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: by putting two permanent magnets end to end with the 229 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: north pole facing the south pole of another one, and 230 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: in between them. You would have your conductor on a 231 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: rotatable system. So imagine that you've got a square of 232 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: copper wire. You formed it to be an empty square, 233 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: and it's rotatable between these two permanent magnets. As you 234 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: rotate the square, it passes through the magnetic fields. This 235 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: is similar to having magnetic flux introduced to the copper 236 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: wire that induces current to flow, and that's where you 237 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: get alternating current generators. So he also discovered something interesting. 238 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: Henry's work involved moving current through a wire, which would 239 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: create a magnetic field. Faraday's work involved moving a current 240 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: a copper wire through a magnetic field in order to 241 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: generate a current. So with Henry's work, they discovered that 242 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: the magnetic field generated by one electromagnet could induce current 243 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: to flow in a second electromagnet that wasn't hooked up 244 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: to the first circuit. This became the basis for an 245 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: important innovation, that being the AC transformer. I mentioned earlier 246 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: that steps up or steps down voltage. Now remember voltage 247 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: is akin to pressure. If you were looking at a 248 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: water based system, voltage would be the water pressure. It's 249 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: the push behind a current. And while this early work 250 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: created the foundation for the transformer, it would take half 251 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: a century for someone to build a practical, commercially reliable transformer. 252 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: That person was William Stanley, and we'll talk more about 253 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: him in just a little bit, But first we have 254 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: to talk about another invention that relied on electricity and 255 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: was very important for the adoption of electricity, and that 256 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: is the telegraph. The telegraph was a means of communication 257 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: that took advantage of electromagnetism. So once people figured out 258 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: the nature between electricity and magnetism, they started coming up 259 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: with some practical applications of this. The telegraph was one 260 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: of those early ones, and it was incredible. It transformed communication, 261 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: particularly here in the United States, all over the world 262 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: as well. So lots of people were exploring the scientific 263 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: and practical applications of electricity and magnetism, but two groups 264 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: were specifically looking at it in terms of communication systems. 265 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: So over in jolly Old England, you had Sir William 266 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Cook and Sir Charles Wheatstone who were exploring this possibility. 267 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: And here in the United States you had Samuel Morse, 268 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Alfred Vail, and Leonard Gale working on this. Now, both 269 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: sets of researchers realized that using electricity to manipulate magnetized 270 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: pieces of metal could allow for a communication system. The 271 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Cook and Wheatstone system was an experiment that began in 272 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: the eighteen thirties. With magnetic needles. There were positions so 273 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: they could point at various letters and numbers. So imagine 274 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: that you've got a needle on a that can rotate horizontally. 275 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: It's on a horizontal plane, it can rotate around and 276 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: around on a balance, and you've got letters that are 277 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: arranged around the needle. And by running an electric current 278 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: through a circuit, you can create a magnetic field that 279 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: attracts the needle, so it looks like it's pointing at 280 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: a specific letter. It's actually pointing in the direction of 281 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: whatever the magnetic field is, but it looks like it's 282 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: pointing specifically at the letter. So using several of these needles, 283 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: I think they had five set up in a panel 284 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: with a bunch of letters and numbers. They could communicate. 285 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: You could just choose which circuit you're activating to magnetize 286 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: a specific point around those needles. The needles would start 287 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: to point in those directions and you could spell out 288 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: various messages. These ended up being used in the British 289 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: railroad signaling service. Now over in the United States, Morse, 290 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: Veil and Gale began work on a single circuit telegraph system, 291 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: and it involved a sending station where you had an 292 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: operating key, and this would complete an electric circuit whenever 293 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: you pressed it. So an operator key it looks like 294 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: a little almost looks like a stapler. When you press 295 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: it down, it would create a closed circuit and allow 296 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: a signal to pass through to the other end. When 297 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: you would lift it back up or remove pressure from it, 298 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: it would break that circuit and electric current would cease 299 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: to flow. So you had a battery that was providing power. 300 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Every time you would push down it would complete this 301 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: circuit and a signal would be sent to the receiving station. 302 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: The original station had an apparatus that would make marks 303 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: on paper, and so Morse ended up developing the famous 304 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Morse code Morse code is a way of encoding letters 305 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: in a series of dots and dashes. You represent this 306 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: on an operator key by the length of time you 307 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: spend pressing the key downward. So for a dot you 308 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: do a quick press, it's just a quick jolt of 309 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: electricity through the circuit. For a dash, the press is 310 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: a little bit longer so that it comes across. And 311 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: on the other end, you had a system that would 312 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: essentially make marks on paper, so you could see dots 313 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: or dashes. Morse was very clever in this way. He 314 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: also made sure that the most commonly used letters had 315 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: the list of encodings, so a very common letter might 316 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: have a single dot or a single dash. More rare 317 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: letters like a que might have more complicated encoding because 318 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: you don't have to use it as frequently, so you 319 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: save all the very simple encoding for your most common letters. Now, 320 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: they noticed something really interesting, which is that as operators 321 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: began to get used to this system, they were able 322 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: to start understanding messages without having to read the dots 323 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: and dashes, because they would just hear what was coming out. 324 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: They would hear the receiving station tapping out either the 325 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: dots or dashes to market on the paper, and once 326 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: they started getting used to this and understanding what those 327 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: taps were meaning, like the long taps versus the short taps, 328 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: it became clear that you didn't need to have. 329 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: The paper at all. 330 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: You could have a receiving station that would beep either 331 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: short or longer beaps to let you know whether it 332 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: was a dot or a dash, and operators were able 333 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: to just pick it up up by hearing it because 334 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: they became so used to it. And so future telegraph 335 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: stations would get rid of the paper and just become 336 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: the beeping receiver, so that an operator would transcribe whatever 337 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: the message was and then deliver it to whomever was 338 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: supposed to get it. In eighteen forty three, Morse and 339 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Vail were able to secure funding for a telegraph system 340 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: that was between Washington, d c. And Baltimore, Maryland. That's 341 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: not terribly far in the grand scheme of things, but 342 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: it was a big deal at the time. The first 343 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: message sent on the new system went out on May 344 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: twenty fourth, eighteen forty four. It was sent from Samuel 345 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: Morse to Vail, and it read what hath God wrought? 346 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of drama in the first message, 347 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: just like social media today. Really, Over the following decades, 348 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: telegraph systems began to connect more cities together, even as 349 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: inventors were trying to find other practical applications of electricity. 350 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: So other people would make improvements to the telegraph and 351 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: make it more user friendly and more useful. Some of 352 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: those people included Ezra Cornell, who created a means to 353 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: insulate telegraph wires and make them more efficient. Cornell would 354 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: go on to co found a college it's called Cornell. 355 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: And Thomas Edison, famous inventor and irascible gentleman, also made 356 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: some improvements to the telegraph, including creating a system called 357 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: the quadruplex, which, as the name might suggest, would allow 358 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: up to four messages to transmit over the same wire simultaneously, 359 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: two going in one direction and two coming from the 360 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: other direction. Now, one of Stanley's inspirations was another inventor 361 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: named Charles Brush. Brush, in turn had been inspired by 362 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: Humphrey Davy. So we see that there's a chain forming here. 363 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: So Davy was the one who created that early ArcLight. Well, 364 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: Brush thought the arc lights were super cool, and as 365 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: a teenager he started to really tinker with stuff. He 366 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: would start to neglect his chores in the family farm 367 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: just so he could work on various projects in a workshop, 368 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: and he built his first static electricity machine when he 369 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: was just twelve years old. In high school, he built 370 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: an arc light of his very own, so by high 371 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: school age he was building stuff that Humphrey Davy had 372 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: pioneered a few decades earlier. In college, he pursued a 373 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: degree in mining engineering at the University of Michigan because 374 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: there was no such thing as an electrical engineering degree 375 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: at that time. And after working in the iron ore 376 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: industry for a while, he began a big project to 377 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: build a dynamo. Now, a dynamo is a direct current generator. 378 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: It's like what I described at the end of the 379 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: last episode. It's essentially an alternating current generator that has 380 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: a commutator to convert alternating current to direct current. Brush 381 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: also convinced the city of Cleveland to allow him to 382 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: fit out Cleveland's public square, which at that time was 383 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: called Monumental Park, with electrical arc lights, and up to 384 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: that point, the lights in the square had been gas lamps. 385 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: So on April twenty ninth, eighteen seventy nine, the city 386 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: switched on the new arc lights. The public reaction was 387 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: mostly positive. There were only a few people who were 388 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: saying stuff like it's not as bry as the sun, 389 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: which tells us that some people were impossible to please 390 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: even before they had Twitter to post public messages about it. Now, 391 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Brush's work advanced our understanding of the electromotive force, which 392 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: is the force that causes electrons to push in a 393 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: direction within a conductor, generating a current, and it was 394 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: that understanding that William Stanley started to build upon. Stanley 395 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: wanted to work with alternating current, which at that time 396 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: was mostly seen as interesting but not practical. Everyone was 397 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: thinking direct current was probably the way to go, and 398 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: Stanley wasn't entirely convinced. 399 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: He thought alternating current might have its uses. In fact, 400 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: at the. 401 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: Time wrote that the general thought on alternating current from 402 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: his contemporaries was that it was a despised and rejected 403 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: line of work. But Stanley was convinced there was something 404 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: more to it. 405 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: Now. 406 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: Obviously, when we start looking at ways to distribute electricity, 407 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: it became clear that alternating current, at least initially was 408 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: superior to direct current, and in eighteen eighty four Stanley 409 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: began to work with George Westinghouse's company called Westinghouse. Westinghouse 410 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: himself heard of Stanley's contributions and promoted him to chief 411 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: engineer of the Westinghouse Pittsburgh facility, and Stanley then learned 412 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: of Lucian Gaillard and John Gibbs, who had built an 413 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: alternating current transformer. The problem was that the transformer they 414 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: had built wasn't really commercially viable, so Stanley wanted to 415 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: take that same idea and design a transformer that would 416 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: have real world applications. Now, what is a transformer and 417 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: how does it actually work to change voltage? We'll look 418 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: at that in just a minute, but first let's take 419 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: a quick break to thank our sponsor. All Right, so, 420 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: what the heck is a transformer. I've talked about it. 421 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: I've said it steps up and steps down voltage, but 422 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: I haven't really explained it well. It all relies upon 423 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: that electromotive force and fundamental electromagnetic forces. You remember that 424 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: when you move a conductor through a magnetic field, the 425 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: field induces electric current to flow through the conductor. But 426 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: to do this, you have to keep moving the conductor 427 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: through the field unless you move the field instead of 428 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the conductor, and you keep the conductor in place. 429 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: Now, one of the. 430 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Ways you could do that is you could create an 431 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: electromagnet using alternating current, and that would give you the 432 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: same effect of moving a magnetic field around a conductor. 433 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Because remember I mentioned earlier, when the inventors were looking 434 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: at how electric current generates a magnetic field, they thought 435 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: of it as as current travels down a wire, a 436 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: magnetic field is generated as a circle around that wire, 437 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: with the wire being the core or hub of that circle. 438 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: If you think of it that way, well, if electricity reverses, 439 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: then the magnetic field changes direction. That creates magnetic flux 440 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: because it's the same thing as moving a conductor through 441 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: a stationary magnetic field back and forth. Like if you 442 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: took a piece of metal conductive metal and you waved 443 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: it through a magnetic field repeatedly, you could induce electricity 444 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: to flow through the conductor. So the same thing is 445 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: true if you have this alternating current electro magnet. And 446 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: remember that alternating current switches voltages on either end of 447 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: the conductor several times a second, so that's what's making 448 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: the electricity flow in different directions. One direction at one 449 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: point the other direction at the other point. If you're 450 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: looking at your traditional alternating current generator, it's when the 451 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: conductor breaks that perpendicular plane or really no, I'm sorry, 452 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: the parallel plane to the magnetic field and starts to move, 453 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: so that the side that was going up with a 454 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: relation to a magnetic field is now moving down. That's 455 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: what ends up creating this alternating current. So every time 456 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: you change that current direction, the magnetic field also changes. 457 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: If you were to introduce a second conductive material within 458 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: range of that alternating magnetic field, that would induce a 459 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: similar alternating current in the secondary conductor. So let's say 460 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: you've got an electromagnet and it consists of an iron core, 461 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: and around this iron core you've wrapped insulated copper wire 462 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty times. So let's say you've got an iron nail 463 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: and you've got some copper wire of a fairly small gauge, 464 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: and you do twenty coils around this iron nail. This 465 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: is your electromagnet. If you were to hook this up 466 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: to a battery, it would create a direct current through 467 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: the wire and you would have an electromagnet. But that's 468 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: just a simple electromagnet. Let's say that you hooked it 469 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: up to an alternating current. Now the current is moving 470 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: down from the top of the nail to the bottom 471 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: of the nail, and then from the bottom of the 472 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: nail to the top of the nail more over and 473 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: over and over again, several times a second. That creates 474 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: a fluctuating magnetic field. Now, let's say you get a 475 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: second nail with a second length of copper wire wrapped 476 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: around it. This one is not attached to a battery 477 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: or a power system. You bring that one close to 478 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: the first one, which will be your primary electromagnet. You 479 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: bring this secondary electromagnet close to it. Once it's within 480 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: that fluctuating man metic field, it's going to induce current 481 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: to flow through the second electromagnet. Even though it's not 482 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: hooked up to a power source, it will start to 483 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: have electric current induced in it. This is the basis 484 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: for the transformer, But by itself, it's not that useful 485 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: because you're not changing the voltage at all. You're just 486 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: inducing electric current to flow through a secondary coil. 487 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: But if your second. 488 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: Electromagnet has a different number of coils from the first one, 489 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: as in you've wrapped the copper wire more times or 490 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: fewer times than the one you have on your primary electromagnet, 491 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: the second electromagnet will have a different voltage than the first. 492 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: So again, let's say you've got that. 493 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Iron nail and you've wrapped copper coil around it twenty times, 494 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: and your secondary one, your iron nail, you've only wrapped 495 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: it ten times around. Well, this will step the voltage 496 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: down by half. The voltage in your new your secondary 497 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: electromagnet will be half of what it is in the 498 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: primary one. But if you primary one has twenty coils 499 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: and your secondary one has forty coils, this will step 500 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: up the voltage by twice the original amount. So whatever 501 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: the voltage was in your original circuit, it will be 502 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: twice as powerful in your secondary one because you have 503 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: twice the number of coils. The number of coils in 504 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: your secondary circuit is going to determine whether the voltage 505 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: is stepped up or step down. Now, Stanley build a 506 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: prototype transformer for high voltage transmission and demonstrated it on 507 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: March twentieth, eighteen eighty six. 508 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: He then got. 509 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: Wrapped up in some serious drama in the electrical utility industry, 510 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: which I'll talk about a bit later. But holy cal 511 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: If you think Hollywood and politics are all about backstabbing 512 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: and scandal, wait till we get to the Shenanigans during 513 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: the current wars, because people got messed up. There were 514 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: all sorts of backstage dealings and just shady practices, people 515 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: not getting paid, people getting forced out of the business. 516 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: It was really cutthroat in the late nineteenth in early 517 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: twentieth centuries. 518 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: Now remember sense voltage. 519 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: Is the force or pressure that pushes electric current through 520 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: when you use a transformer. Can come in mighty handy 521 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: if you want to distribute power across the system, because, 522 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: as it turns out, to transmit power efficiently, you need 523 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: to have high voltage. You've got to have a lot 524 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: of pressure to transmit power over significant distances. 525 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: If you don't have high. 526 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Pressure, you can only transmit power a short distance before 527 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: the efficiency drops to nothing. So you've got to have 528 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of force. Now this again, if you think 529 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: of it in terms of a water system, this makes sense. 530 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: If you have very low water pressure, that's going to 531 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: be hard to get a shower on the top floor 532 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: of a hotel, for example. To have much of anything happen. 533 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: If you have very very high water pressure, it may 534 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: be that on the first floor, you might feel like 535 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the shower is going to push you through the back wall. 536 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: So you need that high voltage because you need that 537 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: high pressure to transmit electricity great distances. That's really what 538 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: Stanley was looking at. So using transformers, you can step 539 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: up or step down the voltage as needed for distribution purposes. 540 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: So at the power generation site, you might generate power 541 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: at a specific voltage and then you want to transmit 542 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: it fifty miles away, so you use a transformer to 543 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: step up that voltage to make it a high voltage 544 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: signal so that it will transmit efficiently across the power 545 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: lines you've strung between your generation point and your destination. 546 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Once it reaches the destination, you go through a second 547 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: type of transformer to step the voltage back down so 548 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: it's appropriate for whatever you want to use it for. 549 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: So when you see transformers on utility poles around cities 550 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: and on houses, there are usually small transformers attached to 551 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: those as well. The purpose of that is so that 552 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: it can either step up the voltage so it can 553 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: transmit it, or step down the voltage so it can 554 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: deliver that electricity to home. These are also the things 555 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: that when they get overloaded, they explode in a ton 556 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: of sparks, they get shorted out, they get too much 557 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 1: electricity pushed through at one time. This can happen if 558 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: you have like a really serious electrical storm. And if 559 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: you've ever heard a transformer go off, it is unforgettable. 560 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like a shotgun and sparks fly everywhere. The 561 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: first time I ever saw one do that, I was 562 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: a kid in the backseat of my parents' cars. We 563 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: were driving through downtown Atlanta, and I grew up in 564 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: rural Georgia, so I'm from backwoods country up in Georgia 565 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: and wasn't used to seeing explosions go off right outside 566 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: the car window in a city. 567 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: It gave me a. 568 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: Very specific and as it turns out, not entirely accurate 569 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: view of what city life must be like. It was 570 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: a special circumstance. Now we're at the dawn of the 571 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: electrical age. So you had Brush's arc lighting system that 572 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: showed electricity did have practical uses outside the laboratory. You 573 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: had worked with DC and AC generators. That was progressing, 574 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: and now it's time to talk about some of the 575 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: big names I haven't really talked about extensively yet, namely 576 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla. 577 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: So, first of all, a lot of people. 578 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: When they talk about Tesla seem to think that he 579 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: invented alternating current. 580 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: He did not. 581 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: There were inventors who were working with alternating current before 582 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: Tesla was even born. They didn't really know what it 583 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: would be good four. But alternating current existed before Tesla 584 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: came along, and transformers existed before Tesla came along. He 585 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: didn't even invent the alternating current transformer. He did, however, 586 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: make significant improvements to transformer technology so that it became 587 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: a much more commercially viable tech, and he made some 588 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: great strides in that field. 589 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: So I don't want to take anything away from Tesla. 590 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that he didn't make any 591 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: significant contributions or that he was just wack a doodle crazy. 592 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: That's not That's not what I'm saying at all. First 593 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: of all, we don't know if he was crazy. He 594 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: was certainly eccentric. And second of all, he made very 595 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: significant contributions to our understanding of and use of electricity. 596 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: But again, if we ignore the contributions of other people 597 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: were doing them a disservice. 598 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm bringing this up. 599 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: I should also mention Tesla, as eccentric as he got 600 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: and as grandiose as his ego was, he only did 601 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: not deserve the mistreatment. 602 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: He was subjected to toward the end of his life. 603 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: He was not prepared for the drama that would unfold 604 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: as he got older. Thomas Edison, meanwhile, tends to be 605 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: portrayed as one of two things. It depends on whether 606 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: you're pro Edison or anti Edison. There are two versions 607 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: of Edison that tend to be presented to people. He's 608 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: either a brilliant inventor and he's a guy who just 609 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: held more patents than anyone else and was incredibly ingenious, 610 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: or he was a manipulative, vindictive businessman who was mostly disliked, standoffish, 611 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: Only a few people really took to him, and he 612 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: would take credit for things that he had very little 613 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: to know involvement in. In other words, he would have 614 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: engineers working for him that would invent stuff, and he 615 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: would just append his name to the patents. Thus his 616 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: name was attached to more patents than anyone else but 617 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: if you were to look into it, you might say, well, 618 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: Edison didn't really have much to do with this invention. Now, 619 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: the truth is between those two extremes. So you've got 620 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: the pro Edison people saying he was a brilliant man 621 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: and businessman, invented a ton of stuff that we I 622 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: think that's the very foundation of electronics today. And then 623 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: you have the other people saying, no, he was kind 624 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: of a manipulative businessman who really took advantage of other people. 625 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: And the truth is not either of those extremes. He 626 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: was a person like any other person, with faults and 627 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: with virtues. So I will try my best not to 628 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: paint him too far in either direction. But like Brush, 629 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: Edison was born in Ohio, Ohio Moosts two of the 630 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: most prolific engineers who worked in the field of electricity, 631 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: and as a child he was intelligent, but he was 632 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: easily distracted. He also had difficulty hearing, initially because of 633 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: a bout with scarlet fever. He also had a few 634 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: incidents that probably depleted his hearing further, including getting cuffed 635 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: on the side of the head by an engineer once 636 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: upon a time in the mid eighteen hundreds, Edison found 637 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: work as a telegraph operator, and he was still a 638 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: teenager at the time. He did so because he rescued 639 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: the son of a telegraph engineer from being run down 640 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: by a train, and as a reward, he was given 641 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: a position as a telegraph operator. He continued tinkering with 642 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: gadgets as he was growing older, and in eighteen sixty 643 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: nine he invented stuff like the universal stock printer, which 644 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: made him a ton of money like forty thousand dollars, 645 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: which in the late nineteenth century was an enormous sum 646 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: and allowed him to set up business for himself. By 647 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: the eighteen seventies and eighteen eighties, he had found much 648 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: success working with giant companies like Western Union, and he 649 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: operated a laboratory and employed other machinists and inventors to 650 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: work with him. First they had a lab in Newark, 651 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and then later in Menlo Park, New Jersey. 652 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: In eighteen eighty two, Edison opened the Pearl Street Generating 653 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: Station in Lower Manhattan. It provided one hundred and ten 654 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: volts of electrical power to just fifty nine customers, so 655 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: at this time it was the first central power station 656 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: in the United States, and as a central power station. 657 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: It could only deliver power to areas that were close 658 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: to the generation station. This was using direct current, and 659 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't high voltage direct current, so it couldn't go 660 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: very far before the efficiency dropped to nothing. It also 661 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: meant that it limited the number of customers that you 662 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: could have. Not many people had any use for electricity. 663 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: Only a few places had outfitted their buildings with electric lighting, 664 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: for example, so you might find a hotel like a 665 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: Posh Hotel might have upgraded to electric lights. Some of 666 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: the mansions like Westinghouse's mansion, had electric lights, but most 667 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: people did not have any need for electricity yet. However, 668 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: it was an early generating station in the US. It 669 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: didn't exactly usher in a whirlwind of electric systems though, 670 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: and the reason for that again goes to that transmission efficiency. 671 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: You needed that high voltage in order to send electricity 672 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: a great distance. If you wanted to use direct current 673 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: and you weren't able to generate a high voltage direct current, 674 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: then what you would do is build a lot of 675 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: power stations close to where you needed them. That's not 676 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: very practical, especially as areas get larger, and if you 677 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: want to deliver electricity to people who are not in 678 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: an urban setting, it becomes extremely problematic. It would be 679 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: better if you could use high voltage, because then you 680 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: could send it out from a central station to much 681 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: further distances. But at the time there wasn't a practical 682 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: way of doing high voltage direct current, so alternating current 683 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: had a different approach. Remember, direct current does not work 684 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: with transformers. You have to have that magnetic flux. You 685 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: have to have that alternating magnetic field, so direct current 686 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: only generates a steady magnetic field. That's why you can't 687 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: do a transformer using direct current. You have to have 688 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: alternating current for transformers to work. So if I wanted 689 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: to transmit power a far distance, I would probably want 690 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: to use an alternating current power generator. Use transformers to 691 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: do what I had mentioned earlier, step up that voltage 692 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: for transmission, send it hundreds of miles to wherever I 693 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: need to use other transformers to step down the voltage 694 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: and then deliver it to my customers. Otherwise I would 695 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: need to build de power stations near all the places 696 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: that required electricity. Now, given time and resources, Edison and 697 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: some of his fellow direct current advocates probably would have 698 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: designed a very compelling high voltage direct current system. And 699 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: the neat thing is, if you have a high voltage 700 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: direct current system, it can actually be more efficient than 701 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: alternating current, but at the time they didn't really have 702 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: a way of doing that, and alternating current had it 703 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: in the form of the transformers. So alternating current had 704 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: the initial advantage, which meant that people were more likely 705 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: to adopt it. So we just had to figure out 706 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: the kinks and converting high voltage alternating current to direct 707 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: current in order to really make high voltage direct current 708 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: a more viable alternative. That initially started to happen in 709 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. Of course, by the nineteen thirties the 710 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: electric power grids were already becoming standardized, so it was 711 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: it was like you were trying to fight against inertia 712 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: and momentum. You couldn't really change things because there had 713 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: been so much investment in the alternating current system that 714 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 1: high voltage direct current didn't have much of a chance 715 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: in that time. But in the nineteen thirties they used 716 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 1: something called mercury arc valves in order to do this 717 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: conversion of high voltage AC to high voltage DC and 718 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: then back again from DC to AC. So one place 719 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: you would want to do this because it just makes 720 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: more sense from an efficiency standpoint, is for. 721 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 2: Very long underwater cables. 722 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: Alternating current on an underwater cable has some other issues 723 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,959 Speaker 1: with capacitance and some other things that are a little 724 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: too technical to get into here, but it's not as 725 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: efficient as high voltage direct current. So while it wasn't 726 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: terribly practical to switch from AC systems to DC systems, 727 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: once we were to come up with this high voltage 728 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: DC strategy, it did make sense for these very very 729 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: long cables that would connect something like an offshore island 730 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: to the mainland, so that you could send power out 731 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: to the island without having to build a power station 732 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: on the island itself, then it made more sense to 733 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: use high voltage DC current, but way back in the 734 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: day it did not exist. Today, we can also use 735 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: DC to connect two different alternating current power grids together, 736 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: which is non trivial because you remember I said alternating 737 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: current involves current moving back and forth across a circuit 738 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: many times per second. In the United States, it's sixty 739 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: times per second. It's sixty hertz. The reason that we 740 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: chose sixty herts in the first place. That's because of Westinghouse. 741 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: Westinghouse was the company that was really pushing alternating current. 742 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: The company that was really pushing direct current was General Electric. 743 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: Westinghouse said, hey, sixty herts. That frequency works best with 744 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: the lamps that we're producing today. If we do a 745 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: different frequency, the lamps tend to flicker. To get nice, 746 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: steady light, we needed an alternating current of sixty hertz. 747 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: If you went with fifty or twenty five, which were 748 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: other rates that people were considering, the lamps would flicker. 749 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 2: So sixty herts was. 750 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: Arrived at as the standard here in the United States. 751 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: Over in Europe it was fifty herts, largely because of 752 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: monopolies that were rising up in the electrical utility industry. 753 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: But if you want to connect two alternating current power 754 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: systems together, you need to have two There are two 755 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: frequencies synced up. So if you think of this as 756 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: two different cables, which is drastically oversimplifying things, but think 757 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: of it as two different cables, you would want the 758 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: signals to be moving left to right in perfect synchronization. 759 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: If they were out of phase with one another, you 760 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: couldn't really transmit power but using high voltage DC, you 761 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: could convert alternating current from one system into direct current, 762 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: send the electricity via direct current to the secondary power grid, 763 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: where it would then be converted back into alternating current 764 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: in sync with the second power grid. So you can 765 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: have two alternating current power grids that are out of 766 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: sync with each other, link them with a direct current 767 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: connection and allow them to share power. This is important 768 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: when you start having massive power grids that need to 769 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: connect with one another. Otherwise you have a bunch of 770 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: power grids that are acting like independent little island nations 771 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: instead of an interconnected system. So direct current definitely has 772 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: its place even today, even though alternating current one out. 773 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of cool that it ultimately 774 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 1: comes down to the reason we have a sixty hertz 775 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: standard here in the United States is because Westinghouse wanted 776 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: the lamps to be nice and steady. But it took 777 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: a long time for all of that to shake out. 778 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 1: It's not like we just immediately switched over to alternating current. 779 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: Like people didn't just look at the two different standards 780 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: and say alternating current is clearly superior. It was a 781 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: long battle, publicly fought with press releases and press stunts. 782 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: Media stunts were performed by both sides. You probably have 783 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: heard the story of top Seed, the elephant that was 784 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: electrocuted to death with alternating current to show the dangers 785 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: of high voltage. A high voltage alternating current killing an 786 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: elephant was meant to show, hey, this type of electricity 787 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: is dangerous. You could die as a result of it, 788 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: and people did die as they were working on things 789 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: like transformers. So neither side was shying away from publicly 790 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: addressing the bens of their own method, while saying the 791 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 1: other method, whether it was direct current or alternating current, 792 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: was quite literally the worst thing to ever happen to 793 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: human beings in the history forever, or at least does 794 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: it seemed like during these pres events. Now, some early 795 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: victories gave alternating current a real advantage, and the first 796 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: of those probably was the Chicago World's Fair in eighteen 797 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: ninety three. And this was a really big deal. The 798 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: World's Fair was falling on the same year as the 799 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: four hundredth anniversary of Columbus arriving in the New World, 800 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,839 Speaker 1: which in the United States was seen as a really 801 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: important milestone. I'm not going to dive into the historical 802 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: boondoggle that was the Columbus expeditions. Other than to say, 803 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: there are better heroes to hold up than Christopher Columbus 804 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: not a great hero, as it turns out, unless you 805 00:48:53,840 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: are completely ignoring the plights of people that Columbus also 806 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: completely ignored. I recommend you do not do that, because 807 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: it's a terrible thing to do. But it was seen 808 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: at the time as a really big deal for the 809 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: United States to celebrate this four hundredth anniversary, and the 810 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: World's Fair was an opportunity for the United States to 811 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: show off the direction of the country, and so for 812 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: much of the expedition or exhibition I should say, rather 813 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: not expedition. Much of the exhibition was dedicated to showing 814 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: off what the future of the United States was going 815 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: to be about, and that included future technologies and the 816 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: use of electricity, which at that point was still pretty 817 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: limited in the US. Only a few places were using it. 818 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: But this was seen as the stuff of the future. 819 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: So the fair was going to be lit up at 820 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: night by electric lamps rather than gas lamps. But how 821 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: would the power be delivered to the fair. We'll tell 822 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: that story in just a second, but first let's take 823 00:49:51,520 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: another quick break to thank our sponsor. All right, So 824 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: you have Edison working along with General Electric with the 825 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 1: backing of JP Morgan, and that's one of the different 826 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: parties that are really pushing to be the deliverer of 827 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: electricity to the Chicago World's Fair. Uh, and they're pushing 828 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: direct current. They're all about DC. Then you have Westinghouse, 829 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,720 Speaker 1: George Westinghouse's company, and by extension, you have Nikola Tesla 830 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: who was working with Westinghouse as the other major party, 831 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: and they're pushing alternating current. Now, the General Electric Company 832 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: asked for one point eight million dollars to light the fair. 833 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: That was their bill. That's what they said to the organizers. 834 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: They said, we can provide the electricity you need to 835 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: turn this into a sparkling wonderland and it'll only cost 836 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: you a measley one point eight million dollars. The fair 837 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: organizer said. 838 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 2: No, that's like a lot of money, and we'd rather. 839 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: Not spend one point eight million dollars. 840 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 2: And so the offer was rejected. 841 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: The two of them, Edison and JP Morgan, went back 842 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: to the drawing board, decided they would make a second offer, 843 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: a lower offer, and said, oh, you know what, we 844 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 1: could probably do it for five hundred and fifty four 845 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, so less than half of what we asked 846 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: for before. We as for nearly two million earlier, but 847 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: we think we can get down to five hundred and 848 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: fifty four thousand dollars. However, Westinghouse undercut that offer with 849 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: a proposal to light the fare for the princely sum 850 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: of three hundred and ninety nine thousand dollars, using alternating 851 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: current instead of direct current. And that's what the fare 852 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: organizers wanted to hear. Three hundred ninety nine thousand dollars 853 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: is still significantly less than five hundred and fifty four 854 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So the fair organizer said, Westinghouse, you get 855 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: the contract. And it all really came down to a 856 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 1: price tag when you get down to it. It wasn't 857 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: that they were specifically saying alternating current is superior to 858 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: direct current. That's not what the World's Fair organizers were 859 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: really saying. They were saying, we can afford alternating current, 860 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: and direct current is prohibitively expensive for this project. So 861 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: alternating current got the deal, and because the Chicago World's 862 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: Fair was such a big deal in eighteen ninety three, 863 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: the world's attention was on Chicago at the time. The 864 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: display of the fair lit up at night was incredibly 865 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 1: impressive and powerful, and it was a great advertising campaign 866 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 1: for Westinghouse an alternating current, honestly because it was such 867 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: an effective display of what alternating current could do, a 868 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: lot of different cities and companies were interested in pursuing 869 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: getting their various areas wired for electricity using alternating current. 870 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: In eighteen ninety five, Westinghouse won another important battle in 871 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: the US by landing a contract for the Niagara Falls 872 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: Power Station. The generator would be an allnating current system 873 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: instead of direct current. Edison in General Electric had pursued 874 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: this as well, but they failed. And here's where it 875 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: comes in handy to talk about how these generators tend 876 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 1: to work. And you've got a lot of different ways 877 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 1: of generating electricity, right like you've got hydro power, you've 878 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: got wind power, you've got coal power, you've got nuclear power. 879 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: Now they all ultimately work on a very similar principle. 880 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: All of those tend to work the same way ultimately 881 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: when you get down to the very basics of what 882 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: is happening, and that is they all involve some sort 883 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: of mechanical system where a conductor is moving through a 884 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: magnetic field so that it's experiencing magnetic flux and generating 885 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: a current or current is induced to flow through the conductor, 886 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: is a better way of putting it. In other words, 887 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: these are all very large systems that are following those 888 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: same basics that were happening at the beginning of the 889 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: nineteenth century when people were just starting to move conductors. 890 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: When Faraday was moving a conductive disc through a magnetic 891 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: field and observing the fact that electric current was flowing 892 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: through the disc. That's what all these systems ultimately do. 893 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 1: It's just on a much, much, much larger scale. It's 894 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: nothing as modest as the Faraday's approach. Now, with a 895 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: coal or a nuclear power plant, you're using heat to 896 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: convert water into steam. So you've got a boiler essentially, 897 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: and the boilers filled with water, and the heat is 898 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: provided either through nuclear radiation or through a coal furnace, 899 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: so you're burning coal essentially, the heat up water, convert 900 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: the water to steam. The steam then turns a turbine, 901 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: and the turbine is connected to a system that moves 902 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: the combination of magnets and conductors, so that you generate 903 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: the alternating current. Now, with coal plants, the heat is 904 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: coming from that massive furnace and you're burning, so obviously 905 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: there's a downside here. You're emitting a lot of greenhouse gases, 906 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: namely carbon dioxide. 907 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: So it's a very powerful way to. 908 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 1: Generate electricity, but it's very It creates a lot of 909 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: pollution as a result, which is why when people talk 910 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: about electricity being cleaner than fossil fuels, it really just 911 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 1: it just means that you have to look a step further, 912 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: where is the electricity coming from. If the electricity is 913 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: coming from a coal power plant, you still have a 914 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: problem there because you have the power plant emitting carbon 915 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: into the atmosphere as well as other greenhouse gases and 916 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: other types of pollution. So even though the electric utensil, 917 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: or vehicle or whatever itself may not emit any carbon emissions, 918 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 1: the source of its electricity might be emitting a lot 919 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: of carbon emissions. So coal power plants are not clean right, 920 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 1: You're not getting clean electricity that way. Nuclear power plants 921 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: also have a problem with generating nuclear waste. Now we're 922 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: getting better and better about finding ways to maximize nuclear 923 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 1: material and minimize nuclear waste, so that that doesn't become 924 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: as big an issue as was feared, because, of course, 925 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: the worry is where do you put the nuclear waste 926 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: which will maintain a nuclear dangerous level of nuclear radiation 927 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: thousands of years after you gather it. Where do you 928 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: put that stuff? And no one wants it near them, right, 929 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to have a nuclear waste holding facility 930 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: anywhere close to where you live. It's a scary thought. 931 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: But nuclear power plants do a very similar thing to 932 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: carbon coal power plants in that you use nuclear radiation 933 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: to heat water converted into steam and turn turbine. Both 934 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: in coal plants and in nuclear power plants, the goal 935 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: is to create essentially a closed system for the water, 936 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 1: so the water evaporates, turns into steam, turns the turbine. 937 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: Once the pressure builds up, turbine ends up generating electricity. 938 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 1: The steam continues through the system until it starts to 939 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: cool down, condense back into water, and go back into 940 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: the boiler tank so that it can be turned into 941 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: steam again. That way, you can just keep using that 942 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: same water over and over again, and it is separated 943 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: from the source of heat, so you're not getting pollution 944 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: from the coal furnace or rate, or you're not getting 945 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: any radioactive material from the source of nuclear radiation. The 946 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: two are separate systems. It's just that the water in 947 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: one system is heated by the output of the other system. 948 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: Very clever design because it means that you're not having 949 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: to constantly replenish the water in your closed system. You 950 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: do have to occasionally do it because you're no system 951 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: is completely perfect. You're going to have some sort of 952 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: loss somewhere on there, so you do have to top 953 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: it off occasionally. But keeping them separate limits the amount 954 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: of pollution that you have. That being said, you know 955 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: there are alternatives to cold plants and nuclear power plants 956 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: that don't emit any carbon radiation or a carbon pollution 957 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: or any radioactive material either. So hydropower is a great 958 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: example of that. Wind power also they eliminate the need 959 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: to heat up water entirely, but you're still talking about 960 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: the mechanical energy of turning one of these generators so 961 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: that it induces electricity to flow through a conductor. So 962 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: with hydropower, you engineer a system in which water turns 963 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: the turbine as it typically moves from an area of 964 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: higher elevation to lower elevation. Hydropower dams do this. So 965 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen a hydropower dam where there's this 966 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: enormous dam stretching across a body of water, and you 967 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: see water pouring out of the base of the dam 968 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: from the higher section into the lower section. So it's 969 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: just shooting out of that lower area. That's where the 970 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: water is turning turbine, So you've got turbines inside the dam. 971 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: Water pressure on the back end of the dam is 972 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: forcing water through some channels. Those channels have the turbines 973 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: in them. The force of the water hitting the turbines 974 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: turns the turbines. The water continues on and pours out 975 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 1: the other side. Meanwhile, you generate electricity wind power, same thing, 976 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: except you're using wind to turn turbines that have blades 977 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: on them. So wind blows the blades. This causes rotational 978 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: force with the turbines, which then ends up turning a generator, 979 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: just as we've talked about before, and again inducing electricity 980 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: to flow by creating a difference in voltage. Solar power 981 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: is different, or at least it tends to be different. Typically, 982 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 1: it relies on converting energy from photons striking photo cells 983 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: into electricity, so it is a different means of generating 984 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: electricity than these other methods. But there are also some 985 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: systems that use solar energy to heat water, for example, 986 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: or some other liquid to turn it into steam and 987 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,959 Speaker 1: turn turbines. So this would make it more like coal 988 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: plants or nuclear power plants, except of course you're talking 989 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: about sunlight and water, so you're not emitting any greenhouse 990 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: gases like carbon dioxide. You could emit water vapor if 991 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: it's not a closed system, and water vapor is technically 992 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: a greenhouse gas. 993 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 2: It just doesn't last. 994 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Very long in the environment, but it is a very 995 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: effective greenhouse gas for its lifespan. It doesn't last very 996 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: long in the environment, but it is a very absorptive 997 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: greenhouse gas. 998 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 2: All right. 999 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Back to the drama of the current wars, so you 1000 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: had Westinghouse in general Electric battling it out big time. 1001 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: GE had some good points. Most of our electronics that 1002 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: we plug into sockets run on direct current, which means 1003 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: if you want to use alternating current to get the 1004 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: electricity to those devices, you then have to convert AC 1005 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: into DC for it to actually work in the thing 1006 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: that you're using. So like a refrigerator for example. I 1007 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: mean that's a modern example, but a refrigerator you needed 1008 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: to convert AC to DC to run the technology. 1009 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 2: Of the refrigerator. 1010 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: So if you had DC generation and DC transmission, you 1011 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: didn't have to You wouldn't have to you wouldn't have 1012 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: to convert anything. It would cut down on the elements 1013 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: you would need inside the materials themselves. However, you still 1014 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: had the issue of how do you transmit the power 1015 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: from the generating station to where it needs to go, 1016 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: And before the era of high voltage DC, there wasn't 1017 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: really an answer to that question. So Edison and Westinghouse 1018 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 1: were both making some decisions around this time that were 1019 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: rubbing people the wrong way. Tesla originally worked for Edison. 1020 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: He worked for Edison in Europe for a while. Then 1021 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: he moved to New York and worked with Edison for 1022 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: a while as a contractor, but they had a falling 1023 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: out and then Tesla would end up working over with Westinghouse. However, 1024 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: even at westing Hose Tesla found it frustrating. So one 1025 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: of the problems was Tesla was not very ferocious when 1026 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: it came to protecting his work, and he had really 1027 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: little interest in asserting his authority and demanding what he 1028 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: was worth and protecting his intellectual property and his patents, 1029 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: and if you don't protect patents, people can walk all 1030 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: over you. Tesla believed that he shouldn't have to protect 1031 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: his stuff because it was clearly his and people should 1032 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: just behave better. But in the world we live in 1033 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: sometimes that's not enough, and some people were walking all 1034 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: over him. He would eventually see his finances drain away 1035 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: over time, so as he got older, he became more destitute. 1036 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: He was living for free in various hotels, and typically 1037 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: a hotel would eventually get fed up with Tesla and 1038 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: a victim, and he would just essentially move further down 1039 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: the street and find another hotel that would be thrilled 1040 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: to have the brilliant Nikola Tesla because they thought of 1041 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: it as something that would elevate the hotel and attract 1042 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: more people to their hotel. If Nikola Tesla stays at 1043 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: their hotel, then obviously it's got to be a really 1044 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: awesome place. That was kind of the approach. It's actually 1045 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: pretty sad toward the end of his life, and I've 1046 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: talked about in other episodes of Tech Stuff, So I'm 1047 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 1: not going to dwell on it here, but just to 1048 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: say that the end of his life was a little tragic. 1049 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Then there was William Stanlee. That was the guy who 1050 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: made the first commercially viable transformer, the technology that Tesla 1051 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: would improve over time. Stanley also worked for Westinghouse, but 1052 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Stanley and George Westinghouse had a fundamental disagreement about money. 1053 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: The disagreement was that Stanley felt he was owed money 1054 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: and Westinghouse said no. So Westinghouse's lawyer, Franklin Pope, actually 1055 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: urged George Westinghouse to drop Stanley's business entirely. That same lawyer, 1056 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Franklin Pope, would later die in a terrible accident. He 1057 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: was checking on one of stan Lee's transformers and was 1058 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: fatally electrocuted. That's redundant. Electrocuted is fatal. A lot of 1059 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 1: people use electrocute to mean you got shocked, but electrocute 1060 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 1: means you died as a result of electricity flowing through you. 1061 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was some pretty nasty irony there that 1062 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: the lawyer who advised Westinghouse to get rid of William 1063 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Stanley would ultimately die by being electrocuted by one of 1064 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Stanley's transformers. Stanley himself set out to found his own company. 1065 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: He was hoping to rival General Electric in Westinghouse. He 1066 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: was hoping to become the third big player in that 1067 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: space in the United States. But he found it really 1068 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: frustrating because he had to constantly go to court to 1069 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: fight for his patents. 1070 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 2: He was kind of the opposite of Tesla. 1071 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: Whereas Tesla was sort of lackadaisical in protecting his electual property, 1072 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: Stanley was fierce, but he had to keep doing it 1073 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: over and over again. It's not like you can protect 1074 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 1: it once and you're fine. Every time there was a threat, 1075 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: he would have to go to court, and this really 1076 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 1: started to wear on him so much so that he 1077 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 1: wasn't able to keep control of his own company. It 1078 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 1: was kind of rested away from him. Eventually, Stanley's company 1079 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: would get swallowed up by General Electric. So he had 1080 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: worked for Westinghouse, left Westinghouse on bad terms, founded his 1081 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 1: own company, and then that company would get acquired by 1082 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Westinghouse's big competitor, General Electric. Kind of ugly there too. 1083 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: He would ultimately decide to focus on other things besides electricity. 1084 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: He got completely disillusioned by all the politics and backstabbing, 1085 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: and so he started to go and work on other things. 1086 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: He eventually invented an improved thermos, for example. So he 1087 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: kept on working on things till the end of his life, 1088 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: but he wasn't eager to work in electricity anymore. Edison 1089 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: himself became sort of a victim of his own success. 1090 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: So he built this laboratory in Menlo Park, and it 1091 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: was a place of great innovation, some of it driven 1092 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 1: largely by Edison himself, some of it by his employees. 1093 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 1: But the reason they had a place to work was 1094 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: because Edison had created that place. So, whether you want 1095 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: to think of it as direct responsibility or indirect responsibility, 1096 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Edison played an enormous role in. 1097 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 2: Those early years of electricity. 1098 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: But his lab kept growing, and as it grew, it 1099 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: became more complicated and difficult to manage, and Edison missed 1100 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: it when it was tiny and more intimate. He didn't 1101 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: like corporate structures, he didn't like academic structures. 1102 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 2: So he was feeling more and more out of place. 1103 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: In his own laboratory, and eventually he decided to move 1104 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: away from it. He became more of a business manager 1105 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: than an engineer or inventor. He did go on to 1106 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: work on other things. He eventually would develop a car 1107 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: battery for his buddy Henry Ford for the Model T. 1108 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure at some point I need to 1109 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: do an episode specifically about Henry four. Maybe I'll get 1110 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Scott to come on Scott from Car Stuff and we 1111 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: can talk about Henry Ford, because I think that would 1112 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: be a fascinating episode to talk about the guy. Another 1113 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 1: irascible businessman, Edison himself would die at the age of 1114 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: eighty four due to complications with diabetes. He was known 1115 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: as a brilliant but really grouchy dude. He was standoffish 1116 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: even to his own family. But his work, whether directly 1117 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 1: on projects or as someone who provided a place for 1118 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: innovation to happen, helped shape our world. And that's pretty 1119 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: much where we're going to leave off. This was the 1120 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: era where more and more companies were starting to put 1121 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: up power grids. Cities would contract with Westinghouse and other 1122 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: companies to design power grids and to deliver electricity to homes. 1123 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: We started seeing electric lights get adopted pretty rapidly and 1124 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: replace gas lamps from that point forward, and alternating current 1125 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: one out at least initially because it was easier to 1126 01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: accomplish than high voltage direct current. Today could technically switch 1127 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to high voltage direct current if we wanted to. We 1128 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: have the technology to do it. But again, we already 1129 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: have an existing infrastructure, so that's hard to just ignore. 1130 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: You've got billions of dollars invested in those infrastructures, and 1131 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 1: to just scrap them and start over would be an 1132 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 1: enormous and expensive undertaking, so it's not likely to ever happen. 1133 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this classic episode, and I hope 1134 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 1: you're all well, and I'll talk to you again really soon. 1135 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 1: Tech Stuff is an iHeartRadio production. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 1136 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 1137 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.