Speaker 1: Hello, lovely friends. It's me Devin Simone.
Speaker 2: And I'm Davon Rogers and this is MTV's official challenge podcast. Whoop,
Speaker 2: Another episode, another day, another challenge.
Speaker 3: My goodness, I feel like I could smell this episode.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's all like sweat, maybe some tears,
Speaker 3: some dirts and ToeJam. It was a lot happening in
Speaker 3: this episode. A lot going on this particular daily was interesting.
Speaker 3: Who took all the time to dig up those trenches
Speaker 3: first of all?
Speaker 1: Second of all, it looks so hot, and all the
Speaker 1: shoes that were lost. Yeah, in this episode, it was
Speaker 1: absolutely wild. How do you think you would have done?
Speaker 1: Is this your vibe?
Speaker 3: Like doing puzzles and running through the trenches with balls?
Speaker 1: Is that your thing day?
Speaker 4: Puzzle? Sure? Running? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: We know that I have asthma, so it would have
Speaker 2: been starting stop a lot. The way they would have been,
Speaker 2: Like dave On, I'd have been like I'm sorry, like bad,
Speaker 2: but yeah, how about you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a lot, Like poor Vi lost her shoe.
Speaker 3: The puzzle seemed really I mean, even the people who
Speaker 3: got the puzzle, they were sort of like holding it up,
Speaker 3: some of them to keep it stacked while it was
Speaker 3: doing the check because it was those balls that like
Speaker 3: don't fit. It was just it just seemed particularly difficult,
Speaker 3: but a lot of fun to watch, and Jordan taking
Speaker 3: the wind like.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Jordan and shout out to Car like Carl
Speaker 2: when it's time when she needs to, Car's gonna make
Speaker 2: sure she pulled out that wind like she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not taking me up out of here, so we're
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and.
Speaker 4: Get this win. So I'm very, very very excited and
Speaker 4: proud of Car for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did an excellent job and so did Live.
Speaker 3: I mean, both of them did it quite quickly, did
Speaker 3: it well, did it.
Speaker 1: On their own. Props to them for doing that and
Speaker 1: doing such a great job.
Speaker 3: Also, while this was going on, there were some interesting
Speaker 3: sort of facts spit, so we see the argument with
Speaker 3: Michelle and Josh happened at the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Banana's Michelle Josh like getting into it,
Speaker 3: and Kylin had a word and confessional. He said, you
Speaker 3: can be friends with everyone, but you can't be allies
Speaker 3: with everyone, and the sooner Josh realizes it, the better
Speaker 3: to help his game.
Speaker 1: And I think that's so true. People like try to.
Speaker 3: Blur that line maybe a little too much, which then
Speaker 3: makes it really difficult, which I think is just really
Speaker 3: complicated and probably complicates things for Josh. But I think
Speaker 3: it makes it really complicated because we saw Michelle mad
Speaker 3: at Josh right last episode for like who he was
Speaker 3: cheering for and that right, you know debacle, which is a.
Speaker 4: Little don't support anybody.
Speaker 3: Michelle's like, I'm pissed, so you have to be pissed
Speaker 3: someone else who is spitting facts Bananas, He doesn't always
Speaker 3: fit them, but he does sometimes. Banana said when the
Speaker 3: fight was going on, he says, his dad told him,
Speaker 3: you control someone to the degree you throw them out
Speaker 3: of control. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: I think that it was spot on, and I think
Speaker 2: that Bananas was the wrong person to tell that too.
Speaker 4: His daddy should have kept that in his back pocket.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but we see it play out. We see
Speaker 4: it play out in full in full time.
Speaker 2: So shout out to you, Bananas for knowing how to
Speaker 2: play the game of which your face is attached so
Speaker 2: right for.
Speaker 3: Sure, Literally like getting someone a spiral, it's always, I
Speaker 3: would say, be afraid of the person who's calm and anger,
Speaker 3: you know, not the one who flies off the handle,
Speaker 3: be afraid of the one who's like just chilling because.
Speaker 4: That's me silence.
Speaker 1: That's probably a little scary exactly.
Speaker 3: So with this challenge, we see something we haven't seen
Speaker 3: all season, right, so we see car the three targets
Speaker 3: automatically get their fate sort of decided because Kara wins
Speaker 3: and then the other target, Michelle loses is the last place,
Speaker 3: so she's notatually going in, which then means Olivia, who
Speaker 3: even though she came in second place, has to go
Speaker 3: against Michelle.
Speaker 4: And that sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye that sucks.
Speaker 2: Like to come in second place and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're still going in like that sucks.
Speaker 4: Sucks. And to go on against your best friend like that,
Speaker 4: that sucks too.
Speaker 3: Nellie said, too is not a winner and three nobody
Speaker 3: remembers and man looks right in this, I'm talking about
Speaker 3: Saint Lunatics, Nelly everyone by the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that. That's tough.
Speaker 3: But it's great for Jordan because Jordan doesn't have to
Speaker 3: make any of this sticky.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to do anything smooth week, like good
Speaker 2: for Jordan's smooth week.
Speaker 4: I you know that, Darn Jordan, I'm watching.
Speaker 2: I watch every season, but this season, I feel like
Speaker 2: somebody needs to do something, somebody.
Speaker 4: He's costing good way.
Speaker 1: To the end. I don't feel like anyone's trying to start.
Speaker 4: The women he has the women, Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, he's packing a powerhouse and Tory, and you know,
Speaker 2: if you go against him, it's like going against Tory.
Speaker 2: And I don't think those women are gonna you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're letting him coast all the way into dinner.
Speaker 3: And I also have to say this to Bananas, like, yes,
Speaker 3: he has a target, or in his words, a double target,
Speaker 3: since he made custom one. I appreciate his dihyecrafts on
Speaker 3: his arm, but look for as much as we give
Speaker 3: Banana's flag for doing this for you know, two centuries now,
Speaker 3: he manages to create a pathway to the wind almost
Speaker 3: every time, even when each new season it almost seems
Speaker 3: harder because people know that he's a threat, you know,
Speaker 3: like he can't really hide as much behind They're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm not a threat and all these other things. And
Speaker 3: yet yes, he's causing a stink.
Speaker 1: Literally and figuratively in the house.
Speaker 3: He I mean I now, whereas before maybe I didn't,
Speaker 3: I see a pathway where Bananas could potentially come out
Speaker 3: on top again as a guy, like I mean, we
Speaker 3: saw it with the Mini Final, right, he did a
Speaker 3: great job.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I'm looking at these these last targets. Right,
Speaker 2: we have bananas, Josh and Cory Bananas against either.
Speaker 1: Right, what do you think? Right?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I didn't even And this makes me so nervous for Josh.
Speaker 2: Like I love Josh, I will always support you and
Speaker 2: have your back, Josh, but going against either, I'm a
Speaker 2: little nervous.
Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I will say this, the eliminations, especially in
Speaker 3: this sort of like second half, have been great balances
Speaker 3: I think of like physical and mental, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, like really kind of equalizers. Now, maybe not
Speaker 3: the one with THEO, just because THEO is so tall
Speaker 3: and so that was just like a disadvantage, but in
Speaker 3: general I feel like it's so there could be an
Speaker 3: equalizer because Corey smart, you know, Corey strong and Corey smart.
Speaker 3: Josh's strong and has a lot of heart, and.
Speaker 1: He's smart too.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, now, ma'am, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: he's not smart. I'm just saying I look, okay, look,
Speaker 3: if we're gonna get all we're gonna keep it all
Speaker 3: the way real, which is what we do on this podcast.
Speaker 3: And I'm talking to you listeners as well, and you
Speaker 3: can come let me know what you think. But if
Speaker 3: we're talking about if you had to have one of
Speaker 3: the three strategize your life, okay, like it was a chessboard,
Speaker 3: who are you picking first? Exactly, That's what I thought. So,
Speaker 3: like I said no shade to Josh. I adore him,
Speaker 3: and he played if you want to talk about heart,
Speaker 3: he obviously like they all have heart, but my god,
Speaker 3: Josh has it and wears it on his sleeve. But
Speaker 3: but from a strategy perspective, I think the ability to
Speaker 3: think of strategy pretty quickly. Johnny nails that every time,
Speaker 3: and I think when Corey doesn't get in his own
Speaker 3: head does a good job of that too. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be. Like I didn't want this episode to end.
Speaker 3: I wanted it to just roll over into the next
Speaker 3: year because I do want to see what happens and
Speaker 3: how this all plays out.
Speaker 4: Because him that it's it's slowly becoming the Him and
Speaker 4: Michelle show.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I want to I want to see
Speaker 2: how that plays. And you know, you get little peaks
Speaker 2: of Rachel, little peaks of Kara. But oh oh, and
Speaker 2: I am a fan of this new duo of Corey
Speaker 2: and Kara.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of this.
Speaker 1: I like it, y y see, I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. I think that I
Speaker 2: think them together could be very dangerous.
Speaker 3: Carrory, car Or Cory Cory, Cory and Maria Cory, Maria
Speaker 3: or Carrory.
Speaker 1: Let us goes, you guys like better? But yeah, I
Speaker 1: like Corory.
Speaker 3: I think I agree because it's kind of like this
Speaker 3: Bonnie and Clyde because they both don't really have a
Speaker 3: strong supporting team.
Speaker 1: And I love the way Kara approached it where she
Speaker 1: didn't get mad.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 3: I love that Corey was honest with Car right where
Speaker 3: he was like, look, I want to be on your team,
Speaker 3: but I have to put Michelle first, because that's how
Speaker 3: it's been so like. I love that he was honest
Speaker 3: about it, and I love that instead of Car getting
Speaker 3: mad and storing off, Car was like, okay, but if
Speaker 3: she says your name, like just know that we're here,
Speaker 3: and I don't if they gave each other the little
Speaker 3: look that they did right after she said Michelle said
Speaker 3: Corey's name, like sore for it.
Speaker 1: I'm really here.
Speaker 4: Oh Michelle, God, I wish you would have did that.
Speaker 1: But turn it up.
Speaker 3: That one was tough for me though, because I adore
Speaker 3: me some Derek too, like I love me some Derek
Speaker 3: and him crying.
Speaker 1: They need to make a gift out.
Speaker 3: Of him holding the scarf and crying those little like
Speaker 3: facial expressions.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so precious, so good.
Speaker 3: All I know is it's just like TJ's shirts this season.
Speaker 3: It's getting really good, and I'm excited to see how
Speaker 3: it goes. But I'm also excited to hear who you're
Speaker 3: awarding your gold Star of the Week two and who's
Speaker 3: getting your time out.
Speaker 2: Okay, So at first I was playing by the rules, Devin,
Speaker 2: you would have been so proud of me. And then
Speaker 2: at the last minute I threw in a curveball. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I had one gold star winner. And then I
Speaker 2: started looking at Derek, okay, and the way that he's
Speaker 2: playing this game and the way that these women look
Speaker 2: like his social game has gotten him so far like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, and we spoke about the Silent Assassin.
Speaker 2: I do believe that Derek is somebody to absolutely watch for.
Speaker 2: So before I take that into consideration, my only star
Speaker 2: holder was Michelle, and I wanted to give it to
Speaker 2: Michelle because she's becoming a little elimination powerhouse like she
Speaker 2: she's becoming a little elimination powerhouse. And then to have
Speaker 2: to go into elimination mentally and take out two of
Speaker 2: your besties because she took out Maya too, so to
Speaker 2: take out two of your besties back to back like that,
Speaker 2: that can take a toll on you. And so she's
Speaker 2: she's in there, she's fighting for her life. She's going
Speaker 2: up against Johnny, like you know, her man is gone, Like,
Speaker 2: she's in there battling a lot so still to pull
Speaker 2: out that win.
Speaker 4: I'm super, super super proud of her.
Speaker 2: So I think ultimately I'm gonna go ahead and give
Speaker 2: my gold Star to Michelle. But Derek, my eyes are
Speaker 2: very much so on you, and I see the game
Speaker 2: that you are playing, like absolutely, how about.
Speaker 1: You my gold star?
Speaker 3: Because I do follow the rules and I' kidding I do,
Speaker 3: but I love what you brought up about Derek, because
Speaker 3: that actually is.
Speaker 1: Such a good point. I agree.
Speaker 3: I love watching him in this game. Like I said,
Speaker 3: he's one of my favorite people just in general. I
Speaker 3: believe what you see is what you get, so really
Speaker 3: appreciate that about him and excited to see how far
Speaker 3: he goes. Like I would love if he came out
Speaker 3: as the underdog and took it home. I mean, where
Speaker 3: people underestimated him and he takes it home. That would
Speaker 3: be amazing. So anyway, my goal star ultimately goes to Michelle.
Speaker 3: I mean I think to come to at the start
Speaker 3: of the episode to have been last place last week,
Speaker 3: you know, you obviously are a target, but also you
Speaker 3: have a one minute penalty, and then you come out
Speaker 3: at the end of this episode on on top and
Speaker 3: in power. While it's terrible that she had to take
Speaker 3: out her friends to do it, I just thought it's
Speaker 3: been beautiful watching her journey and yeah, the confidence she
Speaker 3: displays and going up against bananas because that is no
Speaker 3: small pun not intended this time, and so yeah, I
Speaker 3: props to her. And then I think for my time
Speaker 3: out nomination, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Go to the shoes.
Speaker 3: Why are there a ton of shoes that ended up
Speaker 3: getting lost in the mud. Poor Aviv also props to
Speaker 3: a Viv for continuing on with the eyes like for this,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go like, do you know how how
Speaker 3: much it hurts to like run on a hard, dry,
Speaker 3: rocky part, Like I know part of it was mud,
Speaker 3: but part of it was dry and rough.
Speaker 1: That's just her.
Speaker 2: Her foot was already messed up right from the previous challenge.
Speaker 3: Like I you know, I don't know if bananas is
Speaker 3: giving super pedicures or what. And that allowed a Viv
Speaker 3: the strength to carry on or if it's just she's
Speaker 3: a fighter. But yeah, the time out of the week
Speaker 3: definitely goes to Aviv's shoe.
Speaker 1: Who gets your time out of the week.
Speaker 4: My time out of the week goes to Johnny all
Speaker 4: by himself.
Speaker 2: I need him to be delivered from feet like I
Speaker 2: need deliverance to a cur I am one of them.
Speaker 2: I am one of those people. I do not like feet,
Speaker 2: Like feet gross me out. And so for us to
Speaker 2: see you clipping your toes in one episode and now
Speaker 2: you rubbing and dubbing other feet, and I need you
Speaker 2: to be delivered, Johnny.
Speaker 4: Deliverance is free, and.
Speaker 2: I need you to get you some Okay, so that's
Speaker 2: who my timeout goes to.
Speaker 3: For sure, know that if you like feet, this is
Speaker 3: our disclaimer. We do still appreciate and love you and
Speaker 3: we will not chudge you for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of footness happening, and also the Bunyan shaming.
Speaker 1: Okay, we need to cut out.
Speaker 3: The Bunyan shaming, all right. There are a lot of
Speaker 3: reasons that that happens. Okay, it just means that you're
Speaker 3: a powerful person. Cut out great answer shaming.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not that good.
Speaker 4: I do have a bunion.
Speaker 3: I'm not particularly good. But yeah, cut out the Bunyon shaming.
Speaker 3: And while we cut out the Bunyon shaming, we're gonna
Speaker 3: cut in a fabulous interview. We are going abroad mainly
Speaker 3: because our guest is currently not in the United States
Speaker 3: right now. But you are not gonna want to miss
Speaker 3: this next interview with Olivia and a surprise special guest.
Speaker 3: So grab a snack, stretch out your feet, clean them
Speaker 3: something I don't know. Do whatever you do, but don't
Speaker 3: go anywhere because we have fabulous interview with Olivia coming
Speaker 3: right up after this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Friends, family, and cousins, and everybody that's listening.
Speaker 4: We have a very very very special guest today.
Speaker 2: We have the miss Olivia here in the building with
Speaker 2: us on the podcast.
Speaker 4: Hey girl, Hey, hey ladies.
Speaker 2: Hello, welcome, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4: It's so good to have you back.
Speaker 5: I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: We're excited to have you live.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Just fill us in, ma'am. Where exactly are you and
Speaker 3: who might you be with?
Speaker 6: Ye?
Speaker 5: Right, honestly, I forget where i'm every day because I'm
Speaker 5: traveling every day. But I am currently Actually this is
Speaker 5: a little special situation. And Theo's hometown's called Bath. It's
Speaker 5: in It's in England, but yeah it's Bath. So we
Speaker 5: are I think going to be some of his friends
Speaker 5: is like grow friends from like growing up like high school,
Speaker 5: and maybe some of his family maybe.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on exciting live.
Speaker 1: That's so exciting.
Speaker 3: I know, it's crazy, so safe to say things are
Speaker 3: going well with you guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah they are. I mean, like, listen, we all know
Speaker 5: my track record, okay, and I am not oh boy,
Speaker 5: but I will say like I am. When I met THEO,
Speaker 5: I think that well, when I met him, at first,
Speaker 5: me and him had a little bit of banter mostly
Speaker 5: him with me, and I kind of was like, I'm
Speaker 5: just I'm going to try to stay single for one
Speaker 5: show ever of my life, and it just clearly didn't
Speaker 5: work out that way. But I'm happy it didn't, just because, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I honestly like haven't been happier with someone. And it's
Speaker 5: funny because you know, the person that I saw, I
Speaker 5: knew of THEO is so different than the person that
Speaker 5: I know to like my core now to this day.
Speaker 5: So if you were to gamble on our relationship at
Speaker 5: the beginning, I would have probably taken the bet against
Speaker 5: it's working out too. So I'm very happy to say
Speaker 5: that we are good.
Speaker 1: Oh we love that.
Speaker 2: But you know that's just like they say, different people
Speaker 2: bring out different things in a person, and so there
Speaker 2: are certain things that are within him that probably only
Speaker 2: you could have brought to the surface. Devin and I
Speaker 2: were talking on a previous episode, and now I believe
Speaker 2: that my theory is correct.
Speaker 4: Devan, Okay, okay, it's not not to jump the gun.
Speaker 2: But since Olivia, you know, goes home in this episode,
Speaker 2: my theory was I think I think that the fate
Speaker 2: of YouTube.
Speaker 4: Was not to win this season. It was to find
Speaker 4: each other so.
Speaker 2: Long, right, and so you you leaving right afterwards, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my goodness, you know, and now we
Speaker 2: have the update, y'all are literally lit's talk you about
Speaker 2: to meet his mama?
Speaker 5: Girl, I don't know, so it's actually anything you say
Speaker 5: that because we'll get into the episode obviously. But when
Speaker 5: he when when he got eliminated, I got eliminated. The
Speaker 5: following week after, he actually waited for me in Vietnam.
Speaker 3: I was wondering if he was still there waiting for you.
Speaker 3: Did you know he was still there, wait, because when
Speaker 3: we see you exit, you say I'm going to go
Speaker 3: see my man.
Speaker 5: So so he told the producers or someone to tell me, like, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm waiting for Olivia, to let her know obviously if
Speaker 5: they're not going to do that because they don't want
Speaker 5: my head to probably out of the game or whatever.
Speaker 5: So they didn't tell me that. And so when I left,
Speaker 5: I was getting in like the little getaway car going
Speaker 5: to my little hotel, and they're like, by the way,
Speaker 5: THEO waited for you, And I was like, what, yeah,
Speaker 5: And actually it was Nya and THEO. They both they
Speaker 5: both waited and we ended up doing a little vacation.
Speaker 5: It was me, Nya and THEO and we just honestly
Speaker 5: had the best time. And I don't think if it
Speaker 5: were for me getting eliminated when I did and him
Speaker 5: getting eliminated when he did, I don't know if we
Speaker 5: would be where we're at because us going on that
Speaker 5: almost two and a half three week vacation after it
Speaker 5: let us see if this was like real or if
Speaker 5: this was just for comfort, you know how things go
Speaker 5: on the show. So yeah, I think everything was like
Speaker 5: you know, in the stars, and I'm not mad about it.
Speaker 5: I'm very proud of the way I played this season.
Speaker 5: Even I may not be in the light the spotlight
Speaker 5: this season, I have no regrets at all.
Speaker 3: We hear you say that too in the elimination when
Speaker 3: you're hugging Michelle, which was such a beautiful moment to see,
Speaker 3: like it was a sad, emotional moment, but also beautiful
Speaker 3: to watch you all's friendship and the way you comforted.
Speaker 1: Her even though she won.
Speaker 3: And then when she was comforting you and she said
Speaker 3: and you said, you know, I'm proud of myself. I
Speaker 3: played an honest game. It really was just beautiful live
Speaker 3: like you did play a really great game, and we're
Speaker 3: a fierce competitor and seeing you guys's friendship blossom throughout
Speaker 3: this season is amazing.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned sort of proving yourself.
Speaker 3: Or feeling like you needed to that it wasn't a
Speaker 3: fluke that you are tough competitor after what we've seen
Speaker 3: of you in previous seasons, and like girl, you give
Speaker 3: it every season, like every time you bring something to
Speaker 3: the show. Now, granted you were a villain and at
Speaker 3: least one previous season.
Speaker 1: But you were a lot too. Yeah, every season.
Speaker 3: So let's start with the game a little bit, and
Speaker 3: let's take it back to last week's episode. When you
Speaker 3: know Bananas selects you as a target, you seem like
Speaker 3: you're surprised and shocked. What was going through your mind
Speaker 3: up until that point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it was no secret that Johnny wasn't
Speaker 5: working with me or Michelle. The reasoning he gives, obviously
Speaker 5: is because we picked up inside and whatnot. But the
Speaker 5: reality is this game was a girl influenced game, and
Speaker 5: the reality is he wanted to work with the strongest
Speaker 5: women and by default, you know, at the time, me
Speaker 5: and Michelle were not seen as maybe some of the
Speaker 5: strongest competitors for the girls side. So I don't think
Speaker 5: that Johnny saw us winning dailies to save him. So
Speaker 5: I don't think that we were an asset. But in
Speaker 5: Johnny fashion, he couldn't just say, oh, sorry, guys, like
Speaker 5: it's not going to work, you know, with us. He's
Speaker 5: got to make it like it's not gonna work, but
Speaker 5: let me make a scene about it while it goes down,
Speaker 5: you know. So I wasn't shocked that I was picked
Speaker 5: by any means, but I was definitely shocked he had
Speaker 5: to do the little like thorn in the side situation,
Speaker 5: because I was like, what the fuck, Johnny, Like, you
Speaker 5: know exactly what it was, and so did I. And
Speaker 5: it wasn't personal. It was just what it was, you know.
Speaker 5: And for you to say that when you know that
Speaker 5: me and Johnny were friends, by the way, Like even
Speaker 5: on the on the plane going to this season, I
Speaker 5: was like talking to him, I was like, I just
Speaker 5: feel so like defeated after last season, Like I just
Speaker 5: feel like, although what I did was shown, I feel
Speaker 5: like that's not my character and most my and everyone
Speaker 5: in my life knows that there's a reason why I
Speaker 5: have so many friends on the show and you know,
Speaker 5: outside the show. It's because I am a good friend,
Speaker 5: and so it was just hard for me to swallow
Speaker 5: being misunderstood. And I think that just comes with people
Speaker 5: pleasing as well, which I'm learning about myself. At the
Speaker 5: point where I'm at right now, I don't care the
Speaker 5: same way. But at the beginning of the season, I was, like,
Speaker 5: you know, still been out of shape about it, especially
Speaker 5: going on to this season with Nourice and me and Reese.
Speaker 5: By the way, we were good. There were things that
Speaker 5: we need just to still stort out and talk about,
Speaker 5: but we were good for the most part because Nourice
Speaker 5: forgave me and if no reason, we can still be
Speaker 5: friends to this day. It obviously she knows it wasn't
Speaker 5: I'm not a horrible person, if that makes sense, Like
Speaker 5: if I was this evil, vicious, malicious person, she would
Speaker 5: not be friends with me again, Like that is just
Speaker 5: She's a smart girl. So I think when I was
Speaker 5: telling Johnny about, you know, my feelings and how I'm
Speaker 5: feeling misunderstood and I'm kind of hurt by everything, and
Speaker 5: rightfully so he was comforting me, and I feel like
Speaker 5: he used everything I told him as a friend and
Speaker 5: kind of threw it back in my face in that moment,
Speaker 5: knowing that it's going to be in the public eye
Speaker 5: yet again, of this long story of me basically now
Speaker 5: having just a full on scarlet letter. Garlet make I
Speaker 5: chuse if we will. It's just like he knew what
Speaker 5: he was doing and it hurt because he was my
Speaker 5: friend and he knows I'm not that he knows I
Speaker 5: am not a snake. So at this point I'm gonna
Speaker 5: laugh about it. And it's instead of fighting it, I
Speaker 5: ride with it. Be like cool bym a snake? Then
Speaker 5: guess what I'm gonna be Medusa and I'm gonna turn
Speaker 5: you to stone.
Speaker 4: One of these days.
Speaker 5: Bedroom coming right?
Speaker 3: So does that mean just because it sounds like you said,
Speaker 3: you and Nurse you know are cool to this day.
Speaker 3: So you and Nurse are cool? Or are you and
Speaker 3: Hirasio cool? Do you speak to them really outside of
Speaker 3: the game at all now? Or is it you guys
Speaker 3: are just kind of pleasant and amicable when competing in
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I mean Nurice and Arrasio are in a relationship.
Speaker 5: They are in their own bubble, as they should be.
Speaker 5: And the truth is Arassio has never changed. He stayed
Speaker 5: consistent from day one oft me meeting him and everything.
Speaker 5: And he's never been for the cameras, he's never been
Speaker 5: for social media, so he's not really one too. He
Speaker 5: does his own thing when he's off the show, and
Speaker 5: that has stayed consistent. And so, yes, I just wished him.
Speaker 5: Are still congratulations about he was doing like this hundred
Speaker 5: one hundred mile run I think it was, and he's
Speaker 5: just like, thanks live, you know, I actually really miss
Speaker 5: seeing you. I really missed you. And I was just like,
Speaker 5: so me and him, we are good. But it's just
Speaker 5: nice to know that he's always a friend if I
Speaker 5: need anything, and if vice versa, we would be there
Speaker 5: for each other. And I was just in Spain and
Speaker 5: nurse called me because a little situation on Twitter was
Speaker 5: going down, and she was just like girl, and I
Speaker 5: was like, so it's cool that she's still calling me
Speaker 5: to you know, vent and talk about things that are
Speaker 5: are pretty you know, serious to her in the moment.
Speaker 5: So we're close. You know, I wouldn't say we talk
Speaker 5: every single day, but we definitely are. Are so cool.
Speaker 3: When you're referencing that thing on titter, I'm assuming you're
Speaker 3: talking about the Laurel Lurise feud.
Speaker 1: That was taking us on social Yes, girl wild.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: My thoughts, well, let's see. I think you know. Listen,
Speaker 5: I think everyone at this point has the same thought, right,
Speaker 5: If you have a thought that's different, I would like
Speaker 5: someone to let me know. But I think that when
Speaker 5: something that must be going on in Laurel's life, and
Speaker 5: it's not me to find out. But she is not
Speaker 5: the same Laurel that I met on Ride or Dies,
Speaker 5: the Laurel I mountin Rider Dies made me fall in
Speaker 5: love with her this season and just what she has
Speaker 5: said and done to people that I love and are
Speaker 5: close to me. And also she has said a couple
Speaker 5: of snarky things as well to me that aren't really
Speaker 5: important enough for me to ever address. I just, honestly,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna let it roll up my back because
Speaker 5: it's not a fight worth fighting, because I don't need,
Speaker 5: I don't need, I don't need anything from it. But
Speaker 5: it's just it's something's going on, and I've I hope
Speaker 5: the best for her. I hope she figures it out.
Speaker 5: I think that Arassio is not in love with her,
Speaker 5: and I don't think that he ever has been. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: I think that he's gonna stand by his woman to
Speaker 5: wreath and I've known him and I've seen him talk
Speaker 5: about girls before. It's never ever, ever been the same
Speaker 5: as he's talked about So I think there might be
Speaker 5: a little jealousy there or delusion. I don't know what's worse.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 3: Speaking of delusion, let's talk about Banana's angels. So, boy,
Speaker 3: oh boy, what there was a lot of foot stuff happening.
Speaker 3: Okay in the last two episodes between the toenails, the
Speaker 3: foot massages nail painting.
Speaker 1: One did it smell in the house? And two? What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about all that? You all that going on?
Speaker 5: I would say the foot thing? So god, I mean,
Speaker 5: what do you guys think watching the episode? Do you
Speaker 5: think it was?
Speaker 3: You don't have to censor yourself. Let's just say this again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can see you thinking, mincing words.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. It's just me and Day. Nobody else is
Speaker 1: even listening except for maybe theater.
Speaker 4: Right, That's fine.
Speaker 2: Olivia said, Man, look, I just got out the trenches
Speaker 2: from last season, like.
Speaker 5: This is what this is my opinion. Okay, I think
Speaker 5: that Johnny has a joke, and also it's not a joke.
Speaker 5: He likes feet, you know what, and go off. He's
Speaker 5: a lot like whatever he wants. I think that it
Speaker 5: is true people getting messages and Whatnotuh, but the common
Speaker 5: denominator with the Angels minus Rachel was they were getting
Speaker 5: a lot of foot massages and it was just it
Speaker 5: was excessive in my opinion, and it was just kind
Speaker 5: of became a joke. And obviously something's talked about enough,
Speaker 5: the joke continues like multiple times a day. It just
Speaker 5: kind of becomes the forefront of you know, everyone's everyone's mind,
Speaker 5: a vibe. I think, did she got planter fasciitis, She
Speaker 5: got a backfoot injury, so Johnny was rubbing her feet
Speaker 5: a lot, and and it was to be friendly, you
Speaker 5: know how the challenge can get like we are competitors
Speaker 5: and like there's not like a massage therapist coming in
Speaker 5: and save our lives. So so I do know that.
Speaker 5: But to say that Michelle is trying to start, you know,
Speaker 5: something out of absolutely nothing is just not the case.
Speaker 5: She she just saw an opportunity obviously to do a
Speaker 5: little dig and it worked.
Speaker 3: So then I think that kind is starting something because
Speaker 3: we see her in confessional actually say like, look, I
Speaker 3: know I'm starting something, so like, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: She knew, she knew that. Yeah, she knew she was
Speaker 5: going to get a reaction and they might get triggered
Speaker 5: by it. But listen, we were pissed off at the time.
Speaker 5: You know, Michelle's the last place I am like automatically,
Speaker 5: even though I came in second, I almost won literally second, fine, Kara,
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, I now I default I'm getting
Speaker 5: drugged down in the sand. You know. So we're obviously
Speaker 5: like upset, feeling some type of way. We don't have
Speaker 5: anyone else to point our fingers to other than Johnny,
Speaker 5: who decides to sit right next to us in the back,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's like it was just a mess.
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, Johnny just doesn't like us because we
Speaker 5: don't have good feet. Okay, I'll say her first, you know,
Speaker 5: literally just amazing feet.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, stand by your woman. We love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll suck my toes.
Speaker 3: It's fine, Oh okay, And on on that note, right
Speaker 3: on that note, we have to say a quick break,
Speaker 3: which you already know.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about this challenge. So it
Speaker 3: took place in you. You were running through the trenches
Speaker 3: literally that spelled out forty and we see a lot
Speaker 3: of sun, people complaining it's hot. We see concepts of
Speaker 3: a puzzle, and we see a lot of mud and
Speaker 3: people losing shoes.
Speaker 1: Can you walk us through that day?
Speaker 3: And I mean you crushed it, like you said, you
Speaker 3: came in second, but it looks really hard. People were
Speaker 3: really struggling. Walk us through the hardest part and what
Speaker 3: it was like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the way it looked, we were like, damn,
Speaker 5: like is this going to be a full on, like
Speaker 5: just like brief for all haulbrowl because we didn't see
Speaker 5: the we didn't see how big the trenches were going
Speaker 5: to be. But it was first of all, I hope
Speaker 5: that every single person that's come on here has like
Speaker 5: been very clear on how hot it was out there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, it was. I live in Arizona, Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 5: If you've been there or you know about it, it's
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty in summer on a cool day.
Speaker 5: It had to be one hundred and twenty if not
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit higher and humidity, so it makes
Speaker 5: it worse. It's so hot. You know, by the comet
Speaker 5: blows a horn, we're already tired. But yeah, so we
Speaker 5: run in the trenches, and all I knew is that
Speaker 5: just I just didn't want to get last. I kind
Speaker 5: of had an idea if I wasn't going to get first,
Speaker 5: I had a probability of going in still, just because
Speaker 5: Naya and Michelle previously went together. I only thought fair
Speaker 5: because I thought Kylin was gonna win this one. I'll
Speaker 5: be so honest with you, because Kyland is great at
Speaker 5: puzzles and he's just it's Kyland. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: Kylin will probably win this one. And if it's between
Speaker 5: me and car and Michelle, I thought Michelle was going
Speaker 5: to do really well this to be honest, by the way,
Speaker 5: So if it was between me and Kara or me
Speaker 5: and Michelle, I Kylin was going to pick me anyways,
Speaker 5: because it was kind of we had this conversation a
Speaker 5: while back that he put to Michelle against Naya, I'll
Speaker 5: take the next one if he's put in the middle,
Speaker 5: just because it wasn't really fair for him to keep
Speaker 5: choosing between me and Michelle and putting Michelle in every
Speaker 5: single time. So I was like, I'm just gonna give
Speaker 5: him my all. Let's do this. It was the it
Speaker 5: was so muddy, it was so deep. The haystacks were
Speaker 5: like prickling you everywhere, like there was a lot more crawling.
Speaker 5: People were helping each other when you were like not
Speaker 5: expecting it. Like I heard people would be like, wait,
Speaker 5: pass me that, and they were helping me. I was like, wait,
Speaker 5: what since when are you guys working together? Yeah, and
Speaker 5: so it was just interesting. And this was the first
Speaker 5: time I was like, damn, like it's it's definitely like
Speaker 5: all for one and one for all, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. So it was just like it was definitely
Speaker 5: like I am alone. So yeah, I was like okay,
Speaker 5: and I and I kind of knew this puzzle a
Speaker 5: little bit. I Michelle described it. I think it was
Speaker 5: on Survivor or something like that, or I can't remember
Speaker 5: where it was. No, Kyland. Kyland was like I've seen
Speaker 5: this before. And of course as soon as you start
Speaker 5: talking strategy, they're like line up. You're like, damn it,
Speaker 5: Like I really needed to know this. So Kylin's like
Speaker 5: you just got to stack it like four or three, two,
Speaker 5: I'm like Kyland obviously, but like what does that mean?
Speaker 5: You know? So I was just yeah, giving my all
Speaker 5: and I finished pretty quickly actually, and then I thought
Speaker 5: I got it the first time. But I'm interviewing it, king, Wait,
Speaker 5: what is the talk? What do you say? Oh? Oh
Speaker 5: my god, Dad, that's the whole other thing. He's trying
Speaker 5: to talk about the mini final Corey. People on Twitter
Speaker 5: are not people like Josh and some other people saying
Speaker 5: that we were helping each other. I'm like, honey, we
Speaker 5: were not helping each other when we're me and Corey
Speaker 5: ever working together all season, like literally not not true. Anyways. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean this this challenge, in my opinion, was one
Speaker 5: of the not easier, I'd say, but it's one of
Speaker 5: the most like equalizing challenges because you know, it really
Speaker 5: was just like sprint. There was no hall brawling into
Speaker 5: each other, there was nothing. So yeah, it was pretty fair.
Speaker 5: I thought. It just sucks that, you know, I just
Speaker 5: couldn't get it done fast enough. But I'm proud of Kara.
Speaker 5: You know, Cara was like just at the bottom with
Speaker 5: us as well. I know the episode kind of I
Speaker 5: think they're portraying it as she is playing both sides
Speaker 5: ish or something too, But that's just like not the case.
Speaker 5: She really was at the bottom with us, and in
Speaker 5: my opinion, and so I was proud of her, you know,
Speaker 5: like she's a fighter, and I was gonna be happy
Speaker 5: if anyone of us targets got it, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. It just sucks that it had to be
Speaker 5: me and Michelle. And then automatically, I just we both
Speaker 5: start crying. They don't show that, but we were just
Speaker 5: crying because it wasn't that like we were sad to
Speaker 5: go in. It was just like we've already fought so
Speaker 5: much to like, yeah, this game together. And I mean,
Speaker 5: obviously we probably look a little bit like the villains,
Speaker 5: but just it was just it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't the case.
Speaker 5: Like it really wasn't. And I know I've said this before.
Speaker 3: I don't think you guys looked like yeah, like look
Speaker 3: last time you were on yeah girl. But I don't
Speaker 3: think you guys look like the villains at all. It
Speaker 3: looked like a beautiful friendship. What is interesting, and I
Speaker 3: wonder is and obviously you have something beautiful going on
Speaker 3: which day and I stand and I saw Michelle a
Speaker 3: few weeks ago at an event here for CBS and
Speaker 3: was talking to her about Devin and a houseman she was,
Speaker 3: which is beautiful, But I wonder, how do you think
Speaker 3: both of you seemed to struggle a little bit in
Speaker 3: the game when your partners went home. How much do
Speaker 3: you really think it impacted both your and Michelle's gameplay
Speaker 3: Versus if you guys weren't Because the minute your partner's left,
Speaker 3: it's almost like a part of your heart and your
Speaker 3: mind were out of the house.
Speaker 4: Wait with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how did you come?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So for her, I would say, you know, I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm not a speaker. But for me, I would actually
Speaker 5: say no. And I know it sounds crazy, but if
Speaker 5: you think about it, like I really was in Lalla Land,
Speaker 5: and I was just like I knew that no matter what,
Speaker 5: I could get the job done in some kind of way.
Speaker 5: Even in the mini I knew. I mean, I was fighting,
Speaker 5: it was hard as hell, But I do know that
Speaker 5: I have good memory, and I do know that I
Speaker 5: can always somehow get a puzzle done. I've lost to
Speaker 5: a puzzle before, but like I also lost to Marie,
Speaker 5: who was a genius at puzzles. Like, but I'm also
Speaker 5: not bad and there's this like thing running around the
Speaker 5: streets of Twitter being like Olivia, like she can do
Speaker 5: physical stuff, but she's like not good at puzzles whatever.
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I'm actually pretty good at them. And
Speaker 5: just because I've gone against one of the best, which
Speaker 5: I would say is Marie, she really is just a killer,
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean I'm bad at them, do you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying? So yeah, I feel like in the
Speaker 5: mini final, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna get this done.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna happen. Obviously I got a
Speaker 5: little defeated with that key. The key was insane by
Speaker 5: the way to dig up. There's like like it was
Speaker 5: there was no getting that key for me, girl, Like no,
Speaker 5: So I was lucky and I worked extra hard to
Speaker 5: like just keep a slow jog to make it to
Speaker 5: that memory quickly. But I was more worried about THEO,
Speaker 5: Like I was just like what and he tried, Okay,
Speaker 5: I walk up to the memory, THEO tries to scream
Speaker 5: at me like Battles of Season six, I'm like, worry
Speaker 5: about yourself. Like I literally was like no offense. I
Speaker 5: was like, babe, you are not going to beat my memory,
Speaker 5: and I don't you're distracting me. So so I was
Speaker 5: more worried about him. And then when he obviously went
Speaker 5: home and actually, in my opinion, let more of a
Speaker 5: fire under my ass. I feel like I was like,
Speaker 5: oh wait, now I'm actually here. It was the first
Speaker 5: time I felt like I was actually in the game,
Speaker 5: ready to play. And I think that just shows on
Speaker 5: how I did in that daily challenge. I got second place.
Speaker 5: Like I was, I was very focused and so although
Speaker 5: I did go home, I think that I'm not I
Speaker 5: am not mad about it, and I don't regret it,
Speaker 5: and I think that you know, dailies are hard, and
Speaker 5: I think even though I didn't win, obviously, if you're
Speaker 5: not first, your last, but I am not doing a
Speaker 5: great dress and I'm ye so and that that elimination,
Speaker 5: I mean, are you kidding me? And Michelle is literally
Speaker 5: a professional crossworder. I can barely spell my last name,
Speaker 5: so I'm like, this is just the math is not
Speaker 5: going to math for me at all. So it was
Speaker 5: like build the build the stairs and hit a bell,
Speaker 5: like obviously I would have won, but you know, and.
Speaker 1: You did a great job.
Speaker 3: You did a great job in how you approached that elimination.
Speaker 3: And what's been interesting this season, we've seen sort of
Speaker 3: two camps. We've seen people who one might call the
Speaker 3: strategizers or the overthinkers right where it's like they're laying
Speaker 3: everything out. We saw that with Drel, We saw that
Speaker 3: with Michelle in this particular episode. We saw it with
Speaker 3: Nia when she was doing the keys against Michelle, where
Speaker 3: she was like, I have to unlock them all first,
Speaker 3: and then I have to and then you see the
Speaker 3: people who kind of just jump in and.
Speaker 1: Are like, we're gonna go for it.
Speaker 3: And with you, we saw you kind of jump in
Speaker 3: and you really crushed the you know bar part of
Speaker 3: like putting the difference rungs on the ladder.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was so good.
Speaker 3: What was your initial strategy when you saw what you
Speaker 3: were going to have to do and why why did
Speaker 3: you not decide to kind of lay them out at
Speaker 3: first but rather just go for it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the rungs on the ladder were actually
Speaker 5: it was a puzzle within a puzzle, So that was
Speaker 5: actually a puzzle before the word unscramble. Every single bar
Speaker 5: was a little tiny, tiny bit different. I felt like
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't need to lay all these
Speaker 5: out because I wanted to. I was just like, I'm
Speaker 5: a more of a hands on kind of person. That's
Speaker 5: just how I work anyways. And I know that I'm
Speaker 5: fast and like I can have a couple of mistakes
Speaker 5: if I needed to. Also, I'm taller than Michelle too,
Speaker 5: So the way it was is like if one was shorter,
Speaker 5: for like the circle below me, I could reach a
Speaker 5: little bit above me and see if it was gonna fit,
Speaker 5: you know, the one above me. So I think that
Speaker 5: it's also an overthinking thing. Is like, there were a
Speaker 5: couple that were like off, but it wasn't enough to have,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, to have to separate them and waste
Speaker 5: some time. I obviously wasted time, to be honest with you,
Speaker 5: because we were building this ladder for a hot minute.
Speaker 5: We were sweating profusely. I mean, I think I climbed
Speaker 5: this thing like maybe like sixteen times is wow? Maybe
Speaker 5: actually no, honestly, maybe like twenty. Like it was, it
Speaker 5: was a lot, but it was in a short span
Speaker 5: of time, so it was like I feel like sprints.
Speaker 5: It was exhausting. But at the end, the reason I
Speaker 5: caught on so quickly is instead there was no rule
Speaker 5: that you can't build the ladder above you before under you.
Speaker 5: So I if w wasn't fit under me, I would
Speaker 5: literally just skip it and climb on the outside of
Speaker 5: the ring and just climb up it and just that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: and try a ring and yeah. So I would actually
Speaker 5: measure them at the bottom and if they fit the bottom,
Speaker 5: I would just take them back out and climb up
Speaker 5: and put them at the top. And then I actually
Speaker 5: ended up finishing my entire DNA strand at the bottom
Speaker 5: because those are the only two I had left.
Speaker 1: So smart, Yeah, that's so smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we definitely did get a chance to see that.
Speaker 4: I thought it was super cool. You worked so fast, Olivia.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my goodness, and you had such
Speaker 2: a great lead. And then when you snatch down your letters,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she's about to take this thing home,
Speaker 2: Like she's about to wrap this thing up. What was
Speaker 2: it about the puzzle itself and the unscreened so because honey.
Speaker 5: I would like, yeah, no, listen, I would like to
Speaker 5: have a great excuse, but there is none, you know.
Speaker 5: I I literally like the ground method, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: is no different than on the table method. I'm seeing
Speaker 5: letters either way. And I thought they said a three
Speaker 5: word catchphrase, not a three word What did they say?
Speaker 5: What was the three word there was called? But I
Speaker 5: thought it was I thought they said catchphrase, like it
Speaker 5: was like a phrase in life, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: So I was like literally thinking, I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: what could this be, like.
Speaker 4: Like hot to Molly, like.
Speaker 5: A catch face in life? And so listen, I just
Speaker 5: there's I could not have done that even if I
Speaker 5: had more help. So I wish there was a app
Speaker 5: to help you on scramble, which there probably is, but
Speaker 5: the chance of me getting an unscramble elimination again is
Speaker 5: pretty low, I hope. So, and she killed it, listen,
Speaker 5: Michelle's Michelle is. She's so deserved to be there. She's
Speaker 5: had a really rough seat and we all deserve to
Speaker 5: be there. But she she killed it. She is so
Speaker 5: smart and she is just like such a fighter. And
Speaker 5: either way, I you know, I was happy the way
Speaker 5: I went out, and I'm happy I at least lost
Speaker 5: to someone that I respect and love so much. And
Speaker 5: looking back at it, I'm like, that was actually fun.
Speaker 5: You know, we have that memory together.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, do you feel it sort of was
Speaker 3: poying it to watch because a few episodes ago when
Speaker 3: we saw Michelle have heat stroke, right and I want
Speaker 3: to go home and you comforting her in the van
Speaker 3: and she wanted to go home and You're like, no,
Speaker 3: we need you here. I need you here, and then
Speaker 3: ultimately she's the one that takes you out.
Speaker 1: It was I know, it's one of those sort of moments.
Speaker 3: What do you hope Michelle does heading back into the house, Like,
Speaker 3: now that she's there, kind of we see her honor
Speaker 3: your legacy in who she gives the tea to.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about that? And what else do
Speaker 1: you hope for her that she does going back into
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was an awesome moment. Derek is
Speaker 5: like one of my friends from back home and just
Speaker 5: someone that you know, really was there for her when
Speaker 5: she needed him. She lost Devin kind of earlier in
Speaker 5: the game, so she kind of was alone while I
Speaker 5: was obviously occupied with THEO. So he had her back
Speaker 5: and I told her you can trust him, and I
Speaker 5: was excited that, you know, it worked out for both
Speaker 5: of them like that friendship. And it also meant a
Speaker 5: lot to me that even though her and Corey had
Speaker 5: worked in the past together, which Corey's awesome too. But
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes it's not about seasons of who you
Speaker 5: worked with, it's about what someone's done for you in
Speaker 5: that particular game, right, And I think this was a
Speaker 5: great example of that. And I think that Corey is
Speaker 5: also cool enough where he doesn't take it to heart,
Speaker 5: and that's a great player as well. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 5: it was an awesome moment. And obviously Derek, you could
Speaker 5: see him like he was emotional. I think he was
Speaker 5: like holding up my scarf, but he was crying. And
Speaker 5: I gave him this scarf off my suitcase, and I
Speaker 5: was like, anytime I go into elimination, pick the scarf
Speaker 5: and wave it. And and it was me and Michelle
Speaker 5: and actually all the girls wore pink to celebrate Era
Speaker 5: for because even though they want to shit on us
Speaker 5: so much, they do have so much love for me
Speaker 5: and Michelle and they, yeah, they all wore pink in
Speaker 5: our honor. And it was actually a really cool moment
Speaker 5: to have the ogs and people that are champs, because
Speaker 5: at this point, me and Michelle are the only girls
Speaker 5: that are not champs, so it was cool to see
Speaker 5: all the champs like wearing pink and like, you know,
Speaker 5: our honor. But yeah, looking you know, more forward into
Speaker 5: the game. I hope Michelle has more confidence in herself.
Speaker 5: And now that she's won so many times in the sand,
Speaker 5: I think that, yeah, the dealers are important, but the
Speaker 5: purge is over. So I'm like, yeah, as long as
Speaker 5: you can just you know, do your best in the dailies,
Speaker 5: don't get last. I think that she has so much
Speaker 5: confidence now where she she's not scared of anything, and
Speaker 5: that's the most dangerous person to be up against. And
Speaker 5: she a mind is in my opinion, so much stronger
Speaker 5: than body. And it's all but it's so much stronger
Speaker 5: and and I just hope that, yeah, I hope that
Speaker 5: she is doing it for the right reasons too. I
Speaker 5: hope she's doing it for herself and yeah, and the
Speaker 5: people back home that are just like her biggest cheerleaders. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's such a testament really to both of you
Speaker 3: though overall what you even said about the Vets and
Speaker 3: everyone up there, the champs rocking pink in honor of
Speaker 3: Era four. We've seen both you and Michelle doubt yourselves
Speaker 3: at different points throughout this game, and I think it's
Speaker 3: it's really relatable. But also I hope you guys see
Speaker 3: yourselves even an ounce of the way so many of
Speaker 3: us see you, and you're fighting and just the champion spirit.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: Getting ready to ask him, so I hope he's not
Speaker 3: asleep yet, because we definitely have to make him come
Speaker 3: over here and answer at least one question. But I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a reason why THEO waited for you. You are,
Speaker 3: you know, a queen and a champion in so many ways?
Speaker 3: Can you grab your mank because I do.
Speaker 1: I just want to.
Speaker 3: We want to ask him a couple questions, Bib.
Speaker 5: Turn that off here here put these on.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, THEO, THEO, THEO?
Speaker 3: What made you decide to stay and wait for Olivia
Speaker 3: after elimination?
Speaker 6: I mean I knew that she was a target. Obviously
Speaker 6: I left, and even though I didn't want her to leave,
Speaker 6: I thought there's a chance, because you know, there's a
Speaker 6: kind of a one in four, kind of one of
Speaker 6: three chance she could leave. When I left, Devon was
Speaker 6: there as well with Naya, so we was just enjoying
Speaker 6: our time there. Anyway, that's all crying together waiting waiting
Speaker 6: on Olivia. And yeah, then Devon left it was just
Speaker 6: me and Nya, and then I went to Barley and
Speaker 6: I had to wait like two more days, and I thought,
Speaker 6: it's a gamble, but it's worth seeing anyway, because if
Speaker 6: she does get a living and she's going to be
Speaker 6: sad and depressed like everyone else. And even though I
Speaker 6: wasn't happy for her to leave, I thought she was
Speaker 6: ever going to leave. Her leaving right now was the
Speaker 6: perfect time. And I think a lot a lot of
Speaker 6: relationship roade on that as well, because you know, you
Speaker 6: never know what it's like when you're in there, right
Speaker 6: Is it real? Is this like just happening in the
Speaker 6: house and we leave the house and you're just not
Speaker 6: going to talk again or whatever? But yeah, I think
Speaker 6: after we got out, that's when we kind of like
Speaker 6: started realizing, you know, this could this could be more
Speaker 6: like serious. We spoke a lot in the house, but
Speaker 6: it was kind of worth the wait, you know, because
Speaker 6: I anticipated myself staying to the final any of me,
Speaker 6: so I had a bit of spare time regardless. So
Speaker 6: and the last thing you want to do is just
Speaker 6: come straight home sometimes, especially if you've got someone your
Speaker 6: people in there. Yes, So it was a gamble, and
Speaker 6: unfortunately she lost, but fortunately it was it was good
Speaker 6: for our relationships.
Speaker 4: So it was it was still a wind.
Speaker 5: Well, it was worth the risk.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you're in love.
Speaker 6: You do crazy things, are in love.
Speaker 5: That's what.
Speaker 3: Yes, you should see his face, you guys tell the
Speaker 3: people listening to his space is.
Speaker 1: Like, oh god, you see me?
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: We love that so much for both of you, and
Speaker 3: we're sad that you know, you guys are no longer
Speaker 3: on this season, but you both brought a lot to
Speaker 3: the season and we know we will see you again.
Speaker 3: We're excited to see you again. For those who want
Speaker 3: to keep up with you, let's start with you Live.
Speaker 3: But for those who want to follow you on socials,
Speaker 3: where can they find you?
Speaker 5: They can find me on Instagram at just my Name,
Speaker 5: at Olivia and Kaiser and TikTok is Olivia and Kaiser
Speaker 5: and Twitter I believe is Olivia Kaiser XL but she
Speaker 5: doesn't get on Twitter much nowadays, but you can find
Speaker 5: me there.
Speaker 1: It's totally fair. And THEO where can they find you?
Speaker 6: Oh just steal on the sool cambo. Yeah, if you
Speaker 6: want to follow, then go ahead, it's not then.
Speaker 2: Whatever Olivia thank you so much for coming to hang
Speaker 2: out with us on the podcast.
Speaker 4: This has been good. I am so glad that you
Speaker 4: had a great season girl. You came back.
Speaker 2: You were drama free, none of the foolishness, none of
Speaker 2: the things okay, and we look.
Speaker 4: Forward to seeing you in future seasons.
Speaker 5: For sure. Thank you, girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so happy for you. Thank thank you for making
Speaker 3: time for your vacation. And yeah, it's just beautiful seeing
Speaker 3: the way that you blossom. So excited to see what's
Speaker 3: to come next. Enjoy your time meeting the.
Speaker 1: Fam, and thank you. I know everything goes.
Speaker 5: I have well, I will, I will. Thanks, ladies, I
Speaker 5: will help to you soon.
Speaker 1: Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Thank you very much to our girl Olivia for
Speaker 3: stopping by the podcast with a special guest THEO. It's
Speaker 3: so I love love and I love to see people happy,
Speaker 3: and I'm sad to see her leave the season, but
Speaker 3: I think she left a beautiful impact.
Speaker 1: It was really great, for sure, for sure, it was
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 3: You also leave a beautiful impact on most people, largely
Speaker 3: the gifts and the memes that are made of you,
Speaker 3: which I see all the time and are still hilarious.
Speaker 3: But for those who want to follow you personally on
Speaker 3: socials Where can they find you?
Speaker 4: Day? I love this you say and that gift.
Speaker 1: I switch it.
Speaker 3: Between I say it, I literally switch between the two.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's a GIF and not just.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know which one it is true. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: But you can find me on the socials of the
Speaker 2: media's all of the platforms at Davon Diane Underscore, I'll
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 4: Where can the people find you? Miss Devin Simon, I'll
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 1: You can find me.
Speaker 3: You can go to my website Devinsimone dot com Deviny
Speaker 3: Simone with an I. You can catch me later this
Speaker 3: week on the Today's Show so with Herda and Jenna, So.
Speaker 1: Check that out.
Speaker 3: And you can find me on Instagram Devin Simone, TikTok
Speaker 3: Devin Simone, Threads. I now am more active on threads.
Speaker 3: You can find me on Threads Devin Simone. So yeah,
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