WEBVTT - National Championship Preview (1/6/2017)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll that for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 3>for Dake Edith State.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that whoo whoom?

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<v Speaker 3>And Dan and Tye.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to this solid turble boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 4>name is ty hilden Brand over there on the other

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<v Speaker 4>side of the table. Yeah, he is a fine gentleman.

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<v Speaker 4>We like to call mister Dan rupert Stein, Sir, how

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<v Speaker 4>are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing pretty well. I'm I'm under the weather. I

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<v Speaker 3>am currently full of Cuban food because that's what you

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<v Speaker 3>do in Tampa. But you know what, Ty, it's wonderful

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<v Speaker 3>to see you. Life is great. We're here for Alabama

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson and we have and we mentioned this on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>dot com slash Solid Verbal got some goofs going on

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<v Speaker 3>in the background. We have a multi layered college football

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<v Speaker 3>Playoff National Championship preview, and so we have decided in

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<v Speaker 3>advance to just like get as much information as possible

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<v Speaker 3>so that once we get here we could just be

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<v Speaker 3>dumb and not rely on people.

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<v Speaker 4>Generally, as we discussed, we're very unreliable. Yes, we are

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<v Speaker 4>very much When it comes to planning things out in advance.

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<v Speaker 4>So the fact that we did as much as we

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<v Speaker 4>did beforehand, Yeah, I think really is a testament to

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<v Speaker 4>how much we've grown as individuals. That's what this is

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<v Speaker 4>all about.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe we have almost assuredly pulled this off.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have a show that you will hear momentarily.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have this game Alabama Clemson. We have recruiting

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<v Speaker 3>with Bud Elliott, ESP Nation Recruiting Analysts editor and just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of how these two teams constructed themselves. We have

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<v Speaker 3>a statistical profile with Bill Connolly. We have Ryan Nanny

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<v Speaker 3>to just be you know, his usual tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>About Tampa Tapa, what are we to do when we're

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<v Speaker 4>down here?

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<v Speaker 3>He did make some recommendations. Hey, there's Chip Patterson from CBS,

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<v Speaker 3>and we have who am I forgetting? Right now? We

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<v Speaker 3>have Andy Staples talk about Nick Saban, Krispy Brown. We

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<v Speaker 3>have Krispy Brown. I'm being tickled by Chip Patterson right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Krispy Brown. We spoke with him about exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what Clemson does on offense and how they simplify and

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<v Speaker 3>how they go about their business. We have Richard Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>from Espimnation who also is sitting at this table just

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<v Speaker 3>minding his own business. He has a lot of pertinent

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<v Speaker 3>information on Alabama's rushing attack and how that has evolved

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<v Speaker 3>over the last couple of years. Now with Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 3>and all sorts of goodness, I don't what am I

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<v Speaker 3>am I missing anybody? We have Ryan Abraham to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the Sark factor.

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<v Speaker 4>The Sark factor. It is Sark Week here, which we'll

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<v Speaker 4>get into in a little bit. So, as we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 4>they call this audio avenue. Yes, this is now the

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<v Speaker 4>sixth time I counted that. Yeah, you and I have

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<v Speaker 4>been at a National champs in Arizona. It's grown in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of the production that we put into this whole

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<v Speaker 4>National Championship Week thing. They call this audio avenue. They've

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<v Speaker 4>been kind enough to invite us to this portion of

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<v Speaker 4>the media gathering for the last couple of years. Now

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<v Speaker 4>this year, it's decidedly louder because the room is decidedly narrow. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>so I think we're really going to have to project here.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fine if we want to get our voices out there.

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<v Speaker 4>These people will not us by the time we leave.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have around this room. It looks like is

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<v Speaker 3>that Bobby Bouden over there.

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<v Speaker 4>That could be Bobby.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't tell all old people.

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<v Speaker 4>I see the Tennessee end zone with the checkerboards, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't see.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Tony Bruno behind me, We've got Sirius XM.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a hearty group. We ran into rivals

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<v Speaker 3>in the elevator coming down here, Bruce and Sue from

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports. We had a knife fight, yep, and they

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<v Speaker 3>seem to be doing all right. So ty, let's start

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<v Speaker 3>with this big picture, since we are going sort of

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<v Speaker 3>micro with the layers that we're about to dip into.

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<v Speaker 3>Big picture, what do you think Alabama Clemson is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of defined by.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's defined by Alabama's defense and by Alabama's

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<v Speaker 4>dominance over this stretch that Nick Saban's been there, I

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<v Speaker 4>think far and away when you think of these two teams,

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<v Speaker 4>That's what comes to mind what I'm interested in, And

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to ask you and really all the people

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<v Speaker 4>that we talk with. As you know, when you do

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<v Speaker 4>research for a game like this, it's very much incremental. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it builds on things that be knew back

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<v Speaker 4>in Week one that we've come to redefine. Now after

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen weeks of college football when you did your research

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<v Speaker 4>and starting looking into all right, what are the key

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<v Speaker 4>factors for me, Dan, what's going to work for Clemson,

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<v Speaker 4>what's going to work for Alabama? What was your starting

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<v Speaker 4>point for that research. Were you coming from a place

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<v Speaker 4>where you're just automatically assuming that Alabama is dominant, Alabama

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<v Speaker 4>is unbeaten, it's going to be near impossible to beat Alabama,

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<v Speaker 4>or were you coming at it from a perspective of

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<v Speaker 4>this is a close game last year, Deshaun Watson's a

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<v Speaker 4>transcendent player, could have very easily won the Heisman this year?

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<v Speaker 4>What was the starting point for you?

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<v Speaker 3>The starting point was one just figuring out how much

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<v Speaker 3>I can believe in Clemson after a year in which

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<v Speaker 3>it's been tricky to believe in Clemson, even though they've

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<v Speaker 3>sort of almost run the table. They have the lot

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<v Speaker 3>of loss against Pitt. I wanted to see if it

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<v Speaker 3>was sor if it was a matter of anomalies with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Deshaun Watson struggling in the passing game. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Troy game was very close. The NC State game

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<v Speaker 3>should have probably been a loss. The loss to Pitt,

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<v Speaker 3>but then we know what we can get when Clemson

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<v Speaker 3>is firing on all cylinders. So I wanted to know

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<v Speaker 3>if it was just a matter of Clemson playing sloppy

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<v Speaker 3>and when they're focused they're greats because I think Alabama's

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<v Speaker 3>especially defensively, it does almost doesn't matter what Alabama does

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<v Speaker 3>on offense when they're not letting teams score more than

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<v Speaker 3>like thirteen points. So Clemson, to me, even though we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen them in this spot, was still much more of

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<v Speaker 3>an unknown quantity after this season. So it was figuring

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<v Speaker 3>out the differences between good and bad Clemson. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually defined by, because they were so close last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. So you mentioned the defense, Our favorite meaningless stat

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<v Speaker 4>is total defense. Alabama led the nation in vent for

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it's worth. They also led the nation in scoring

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<v Speaker 4>defense eleven point four points per game. In rushing defense

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<v Speaker 4>they allowed only sixty two per game two yards per carry,

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<v Speaker 4>which is crazy, and fourteenth in passing defense, so across

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<v Speaker 4>the board, a really well balanced defense.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to see what the analytics look like.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatalytics do you have in front of you?

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<v Speaker 2>This?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh, wow, look at this. Did the solid fiance

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<v Speaker 4>say yes before or after she saw.

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<v Speaker 3>That she's the one who told me how to use.

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<v Speaker 4>V look up.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA Okay, so you know it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's real with V look up.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, the analytics obviously love both of these teams.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some weaknesses for Clemson. The only thing that you

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<v Speaker 3>can say about Alabama is their touchdown frequency is in

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<v Speaker 3>top of the top. It's right around forty, which is

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<v Speaker 3>fine when you have the defense that they have, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've stalled some in the red zone. But as we

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<v Speaker 3>saw against Washington, they can generate longer touchdowns and so

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter as much here.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what spooks me a little bit. All year, it

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<v Speaker 4>was Alabama is dominant, right, domin what context? Dominant in

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<v Speaker 4>that you can't run on them, you can't score on them, right,

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<v Speaker 4>You're not going to beat them period. Now they've got

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<v Speaker 4>this third dimension, if you will, with a running or back.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough to try and defend all of that, Ammo.

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<v Speaker 4>What spooks me now is if you read media reports

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<v Speaker 4>in the build up to this game, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people that I think very highly of in sports media

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<v Speaker 4>and college football media have slowly gravitated towards Clemson. Correct

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know why that is, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 4>anything last week other than a truly dominant performance gainst

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<v Speaker 4>Ohio State. It was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Shutout, Hi, shut out.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it was great. I didn't see anything in that

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<v Speaker 4>game that otherwise would lead me to believe, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>that Clemson would all of a sudden win this game.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt pretty good about what I saw on the

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<v Speaker 4>Alabama side. But all week I've been reading about people.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was USA today five of seven for Clemson.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm starting to like overthink this. It's my most

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<v Speaker 4>redeeming quality.

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<v Speaker 3>So we know about this matchup already because we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw it last year. There isn't too much that's different.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the Alabama quarterback situation is certainly big, the

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<v Speaker 3>addition of Mike Williams for Clemson is certainly The loss

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<v Speaker 3>of a couple of key defenders for Clemson is certainly

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<v Speaker 3>a big factor. But unlike the Notre Dame matchup, in

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<v Speaker 3>which we saw a lot of late intellectual money coming

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<v Speaker 3>in on Notre Dame, right, we sort of talked to

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves into like, well, that defense has been great all year.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like Pete Sampson sneaking this way, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Loves it. The thing is with Clemson, they just shut

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<v Speaker 3>out a playoff team, not a pretty good team, they

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<v Speaker 3>shut out a playoff team, not one, not two, not

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<v Speaker 3>even three, but four fingers deep, tie fingers deep. So

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<v Speaker 3>we know that Clemson with authority has the capability to

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<v Speaker 3>beat Alabama, right, I would think so. Yeah, as with

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame in this situation a few years ago, when

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<v Speaker 3>people started talking themselves into it, it was sort of like,

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<v Speaker 3>well maybe if and then I think it's a totally

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<v Speaker 3>different scenario with this pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's put it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When I saw the points spread for the Alabama Washington game, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought to myself, Alabama can definitely cover this, and

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<v Speaker 4>they did. When I look at this point spread, depending

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<v Speaker 4>where you look, six six and a half, seven seven

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<v Speaker 4>and a half. In some places, I look at that

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<v Speaker 4>and I say, I saw I don't feel great about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was odd shark. I think the money

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<v Speaker 3>is about fifty nine forty one Clemson right.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, it makes sense to me, and that's kind that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of how I feel about it now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a separate ball of wax al together. Can they

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<v Speaker 4>beat them? Yeah, can they outright beat them? Last year

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<v Speaker 4>scored scored a eight touchdown, covered the point spread this

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<v Speaker 4>year can I don't know. I don't know, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the whole purpose of this. The game is

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<v Speaker 4>Monday night, eight pm down here at Tampa at Raymond

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<v Speaker 4>James Stadium. I don't know if they have the pirate

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<v Speaker 4>ship decorated and it's in any particular fashion, or if

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<v Speaker 4>they'll fire the cannons. If any team scores.

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<v Speaker 3>I would pay attention to Richard Johnson. He will be

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<v Speaker 3>doing a stadium walkthrough walk through. He will be getting

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<v Speaker 3>the information that you use such desire to have full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 3>He's seated right now, still sitting right, He's still seated

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<v Speaker 3>here since he's already on this show. We don't need

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<v Speaker 3>We're not paying them enough money. That's right, That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what this comes down to. Monday night, eight pm,

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<v Speaker 4>Raymond James Stadium. Look for Richard's walk through. The game

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<v Speaker 4>is on ESPN, of course, Chris Fowler, Ork kurb Street.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Rinaldi's going to be doing Alabama. I saw Sam

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<v Speaker 4>Ponder is going to have the Clemson sidelines. Alabama's fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>to zero. They are a six and a half point favorite,

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<v Speaker 4>at least on my sheet, over Clemson thirteen oh one,

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<v Speaker 4>the one loss coming against Pitt earlier in this season.

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<v Speaker 4>What our plan is for this show is to walk

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<v Speaker 4>through those layers. We're gonna analyze this from an analytical standpoint,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as schemes go, as far as matchups go.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to talk about the Sark factor and all

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of things here over the course of the next

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Ty, you did a great take you okay,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you? Where we start.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get rolling with our layered previews. So a good

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<v Speaker 4>way to start this thing is to take a step back.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's look at the numbers, just the way we always

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<v Speaker 4>do before every game during.

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<v Speaker 3>The most of all regular season sport.

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<v Speaker 4>The numbers, the numbers, how the game is played on paper,

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<v Speaker 4>and whatnot. You talked to Bill Connolly.

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<v Speaker 3>I did, and what was really interesting to me is

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<v Speaker 3>I did. And you know what, let's just start out

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<v Speaker 3>right here. I asked him if anything jumped out to

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<v Speaker 3>him even surprised him about the stat profiles mclems in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, actually, it's pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here's some of your interview.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't think there are any major surprises here

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<v Speaker 5>from a stat standpoint. I mean, basically, the biggest advantage

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<v Speaker 5>of Alabama seems to have and you can see how

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<v Speaker 5>this would define the game. You know, the Clemson's not

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<v Speaker 5>a very good running team. They're better than they were

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<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of the year, but Alabama's Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to allow big run plays.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to probably Clemson's a pretty bad short yardage team,

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<v Speaker 5>so Alabama's going to pretty much put it all onto

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<v Speaker 5>Shaun Watson's shoulders. And that might work out okay for Clemson.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, that's kind of what's going to happen here.

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<v Speaker 5>It would be very surprising if Clemson was able to

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<v Speaker 5>generate too much on the ground. And then on the

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<v Speaker 5>other side, you know what we saw Clemson being able

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<v Speaker 5>to do to J. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Barrett last week.

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<v Speaker 5>I think is pretty similar to You're going to see,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a very good pass rush making Jalen hurts

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<v Speaker 5>his life pretty uncomfortable when when they have.

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<v Speaker 1>To pass or when he chooses to pass.

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<v Speaker 5>Alabama will be better at running the ball than Ohio

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<v Speaker 5>State was, or at the very least it's safe to

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<v Speaker 5>assume they won't give up on the run as quickly

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<v Speaker 5>as Ohio State did, and so you know, maybe that's enough.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they get enough run run production that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>matter that they can't really pass. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>Alabama will be able to pass very well.

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<v Speaker 3>What is a glaring deficiency or tendency for each team

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<v Speaker 3>that you think will be very much publicly on display

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<v Speaker 3>in this game.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think Clemson's lack of a run game really

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<v Speaker 5>is you know, like I said, they have improved as

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<v Speaker 5>the as the season has progressed, but they don't. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think they're ready to take on Alabama in that

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<v Speaker 5>regard yet. And I think that they give up a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of negative run plays. They give they get stucked

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<v Speaker 5>in short yardage situations a lot. If you do those

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<v Speaker 5>things against Alabama, I mean, any other quarterback and being

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<v Speaker 5>rendered one dimensional pretty much ends your chances.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that's what we're going to see.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we're going to see a situation where that

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<v Speaker 5>you know this, if a run game is just completely

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<v Speaker 5>non existent against Alabama, I'd be surprised if if Goldin

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<v Speaker 5>really gets going in that regard For Alabama, though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of the same deal. They also give up

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<v Speaker 5>some negative run plays, they give up a ton of sacks,

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<v Speaker 5>and as we saw, you know, they didn't move down

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<v Speaker 5>too much in the ratings for not being able to

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<v Speaker 5>pass against Washington because Washington has a very good pass defense,

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<v Speaker 5>but they won't be able to rely on the on

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<v Speaker 5>the pass, that's for sure. Clemson's pass defense is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>And if it becomes a s situation where Hurts has

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<v Speaker 5>to have time, I mean not only they have to pass,

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<v Speaker 5>but I mean he has to get receivers downfield, it's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be really tough because comes and rushes the pass

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<v Speaker 5>are really really well.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else from the statistical profile of these

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<v Speaker 3>two teams, the profiles of these two teams that stands

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<v Speaker 3>out to you as perhaps being unexpected.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think, you know, maybe because we remember last

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<v Speaker 5>year's you know, forty five to forty game. It's most

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<v Speaker 5>of the advantages on both sides of the ball are defensive.

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<v Speaker 5>That's usually the case with Alabama just because they typically

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<v Speaker 5>have a humongous defensive advantages against anybody, but even against

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<v Speaker 5>Clemson it's the case. And then on the other side,

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<v Speaker 5>even against Alabama, Clemson's defensive advantages, the pass rush and

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<v Speaker 5>whatnot seemed to stand out. So I would be really

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<v Speaker 5>really surprised if we get anywhere close to eighty five

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<v Speaker 5>points in this game. It feels more like a twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five to twenty situation than than forty five to forty.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So that's Bill's perspective, That's how he sees

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<v Speaker 4>the game shaking out, doesn't see as many point could

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<v Speaker 4>see it unfolding in a similar fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>Two great defenses. I don't think it's a reach at

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<v Speaker 3>all to say.

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<v Speaker 4>That in a similar close fashion as we did last year.

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<v Speaker 4>The next place you and I decided to look for

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<v Speaker 4>clues was to our good friend Bud Elliott. So, as

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Bud Elliott does a great job Tomahawk Nation

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<v Speaker 4>covering the Knowles to the degree that they do. But

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<v Speaker 4>he's also really in the weeds. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>all things recruiting, and when you look at games like

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<v Speaker 4>this and you look at matchups, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 4>to people who not only know the teams well, but

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<v Speaker 4>also know the players, know the construction of the team,

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<v Speaker 4>the talent on the team, really know what these coaches

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<v Speaker 4>are working with. So we asked, Bud, can you give

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<v Speaker 4>us some indication where you think this thing might head

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<v Speaker 4>based on the construction of these two teams.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the two best houses in college football. They

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<v Speaker 3>have the two best foundations absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>For about the billionth year in a row.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it seems the national championship is going to go

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<v Speaker 7>to a team that has signed more four and five

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<v Speaker 7>stars over the last four seasons than two and three stars.

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<v Speaker 7>Got to have a certain minute level of talent to

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<v Speaker 7>take home the national title. I call that the blue

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<v Speaker 7>chip ratio, and you can read about that on espnation

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<v Speaker 7>dot com. This year, Alabama unsurprisingly was number one in

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<v Speaker 7>the blue chip ratio, with an incredible seventy seven percent

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<v Speaker 7>of their signings over the last four years being blue chips.

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<v Speaker 7>Clemson was number twelve with fifty two percent. Really, the

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<v Speaker 7>goal here is just to be over half what we

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<v Speaker 7>see with Clemson, though, is that Clemson has one of

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<v Speaker 7>the most talented rosters in college football, much like Alabama does.

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<v Speaker 7>Other than the quarterback position, though these teams are not

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<v Speaker 7>that dissimilar. They both have dominating defensive lines. Clemson with

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<v Speaker 7>Christian Wilkins, Carlos Watkins, and importantly Dexter Lawrence, who I

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<v Speaker 7>think is probably, if you want to make an NFL

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<v Speaker 7>comparison talent wise, probably the closest thing we've seen to

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<v Speaker 7>Albert Haynesworth since Albert Haynesworth. He moves like a three

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<v Speaker 7>hundred pound guye despite being forty pounds bigger, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>just that's a whole lot of mass moving at a

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<v Speaker 7>quick speed. It's just difficult to block. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 7>I think if you look at Alabama, one of their

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<v Speaker 7>most impressive players this year is Jonah Williams, a former

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<v Speaker 7>five star offensive tackle. I believe he enrolled early, came

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<v Speaker 7>in started immediately, has played great this entire year. And

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<v Speaker 7>playing offensive tackle is a really tough ask of a

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<v Speaker 7>true freshman. But the tie they have Jonah Williams on

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<v Speaker 7>one side is doing it, and on the other side

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<v Speaker 7>they have Cam Robinson, who's one of the top draft prospects.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's been doing it for three years now.

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<v Speaker 7>Alabama, we know all the stars up front, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>really I think what separates Alabama from most of the

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<v Speaker 7>other teams is we had this much talent on the team.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no doubt that you're.

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<v Speaker 7>Able to practice at a higher level because if you

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<v Speaker 7>take a day off practice at Alabama, they have somebody else,

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<v Speaker 7>probably very close to your.

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<v Speaker 6>Talent level behind you.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think the drop off in terms of talent

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<v Speaker 7>when you go down the depth chart at Alabama is less.

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<v Speaker 7>That is, it utters schools and other schools they may

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<v Speaker 7>have the top level talent may be the same, but

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<v Speaker 7>they probably haven't stockpiled quite that death. As we've seen

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<v Speaker 7>again seventy seven percent of their signings over the last

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<v Speaker 7>four years being four and five stars. That's by far

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<v Speaker 7>the biggest amount in the country. I'm excited to watch

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<v Speaker 7>this ball games. I think there are really playmakers at

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<v Speaker 7>every position.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Alabama has has a nice trio of running backs like

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<v Speaker 7>Wayne Golman out of Clemson, but really it's can.

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<v Speaker 6>Either side block each other.

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<v Speaker 7>They're so good on the defensive lines that I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's just it's hard to do a lot offensively

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<v Speaker 7>against these guys. Pitt torrip Clemson a little bit. Alabama

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<v Speaker 7>really hasn't given up many points the entire year, but

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<v Speaker 7>they're missing a couple of guys on defense. Miss and

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<v Speaker 7>Eddie Jackson now one of their top linebackers is out

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<v Speaker 7>as well, one of the better cover guys at the

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<v Speaker 7>linebacker position.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm excited to watch this game.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't see a whole lot of matchups that feature

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<v Speaker 7>this much talent on the field at one time, and

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<v Speaker 7>from somebody who makes his money on people caring about recruiting,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm really.

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<v Speaker 6>Happy to see that again.

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<v Speaker 7>The National Championship rings are going to go to a

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<v Speaker 7>team that has recruited what I've defined as kind of

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<v Speaker 7>the minimum threshold of talent you need to bring home

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<v Speaker 7>the title.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you, Bud. Next up, where do we look

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<v Speaker 4>for our clues? Next?

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<v Speaker 3>Chrispy Brown chris By Chris B. Chris By Brown of

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<v Speaker 3>Smart Football and has done some work for The Ringer,

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<v Speaker 3>formerly of grant Lands. Touched on a number of issues,

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<v Speaker 3>but really focused in on Clemson, their offense and how

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<v Speaker 3>well the wrinkles that they've added these past couple of seasons,

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<v Speaker 3>how well they're working.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Brown Smart football dot Com has been a long

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<v Speaker 4>time guest of the show, has a lot to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as we know, Clemson went Inity are not

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to run Deshaun Watson too much, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>think a smart move, but is also a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a challenge at times when you're a spread offense

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<v Speaker 2>that's sort of designed and originally built to include quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>run in what you do. Otherwise you'd run a pro

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<v Speaker 2>style offense and do something else. So at times it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like this year they're playing with one hand behind

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<v Speaker 2>their back, but against Ohio State you saw them unveil

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<v Speaker 2>a couple things that hadn't shown previously and then also

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<v Speaker 2>just emphasize a couple more that they've been working on

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<v Speaker 2>this year. One of the main ones, and ironically you

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<v Speaker 2>actually saw Alabama run the same play was something growing

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<v Speaker 2>out of a play that Cam Newton made famous a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago, which is called the inverted veer or

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<v Speaker 2>the power read, which is basically where the offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>will block sort of an old school traditional power play.

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.160
<v Speaker 2>The backside guard will pull around, but instead of sending

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 2>your full back to kick out or block that defensive

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.640
<v Speaker 2>end like you see Stanford and Michigan running with Jim Harbaugh.

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>The quarterback will read that defender and he'll either hand

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>it off to a running back on a sweep around end,

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.359
<v Speaker 2>or if you remember Cam Newton winning the Heisman Trophy,

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of keeping it himself and running right up the

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 2>middle for a big run. That play has been effective

0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.400
<v Speaker 2>for the last five six years in college football. You've

0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.119
<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of teams try to find new ways

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and new wrinkles that take that same idea and expand

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.120
<v Speaker 2>on it or do different things. One of the cool

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 2>ones is something that high school coaches talk about really

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 2>a short time on about a year ago, and then

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.360
<v Speaker 2>suddenly a bunch of teams started running it this year,

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>including Clumbs and then again later in the year Alabama,

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 2>which is where instead of putting the ball in the

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>running back's belly as he sort of fakes a sweep

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and then letting him try to dash around end, the

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 2>right back will actually swing out and the quarterback has

0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the option to either pitch it to him or keep

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>it up the middle himself, which allows the running back

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 2>to get wide much more quickly. It kind of what

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it does is it kind of takes the old speed

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>option like the Nebraska you know old school option fotball

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 2>where the quarterback runs down the line and can either

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 2>pitch it or keep it himself, and combines it with

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 2>this the inverted veer power read game, where it's a

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a it's both a faster read gets

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it to the running back faster, or a little bit slower,

0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 2>more deliberate run inside. So you saw you've seen Clemson

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 2>using a bunch of times. Well this year they pitched

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 2>outside the Wayne Goldman a couple of times. When Alabama

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 2>ran it, you saw Jayalen Hurts keep it up inside

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>for like a first down. But the other marinkle is

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 2>that Ohio State was ready for that play. They were ready.

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 2>They clearly scouted it. So where they really killed Ohio

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 2>State and Deshaun Watson at a touchdown and two or

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.679
<v Speaker 2>three really huge runs was where he faked like he

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 2>was tossing it, but then instead of running the power

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.959
<v Speaker 2>read to the same side, he came back the other

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 2>way and ran what they call a counterplayer counter tray

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 2>where the guard and then the tight end would pull

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 2>around and lead around, which, ironically to Ohio State, was

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>probably one of their best plays. Is the counter tray,

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and when you saw Ohio State try to defend the thing,

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.120
<v Speaker 2>they ended up a guy short. A couple of different times.

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Watson took it down the sideway for a bunch of

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 2>big games, and so it was. It was a great

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>example using the bowl season to both expand what they

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 2>were doing, using more runs with Deshaun Watson when it's

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 2>crunch time, but then also taking Ohio these preparation and

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>using it against them, which is something you have to

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>do against Alabama because you know they've will have watched

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>ten years of your film and scouted you out and

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 2>know every tendency. See, you have to strategically break your Tennessee.

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>So who does it specifically stress this this variation on

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 3>a single concept, Who on the defense is it meant

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 3>to make make a quick decision? And you say, Ohio

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 3>State was ready. So now with even more variations to

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 3>this play, how do you anticipate teams? And I guess

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 3>specifically Alabama in this case or Clemson in this case

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 3>defensively since they both run an offense, what is a

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 3>potential solution to cover every single area if possible.

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's that's the whole game. Is you can't

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>cover every single area. So the play the bass play itself,

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>whether it's the inverted Viera, the toss toss read concept

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>is you're just trying to read the defensive end. So

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>if he goes out with the running back of the

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 2>quarterback keeps it inside. If you crash it down inside,

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>you you pitch it outside. You defend that by getting

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>your other players involved. Safety is coming downhill, linebackers scraping

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 2>over the top to stop the running back, and then

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>that's when you start opening up other things. So Ohio

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>State plays a quarters cover four defense, so which basically

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>requires the safeties to be hard run defenders, and then

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>they also give a lot of flexibility because the safeties

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>are there on sort of either side of the line to

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 2>the linebackers to flow fast and defend the play. So

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that was why Clemson then faked the toss read and

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>then ran the counter the other way, and you had

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>the linebackers either hesitated or over pursued towards where the

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>running back went. And then so when Watson sort of

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>took it around end, you actually saw on a couple

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 2>of them the pulling tight end base almost had no

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 2>one to block until he was five, six, seven, eight

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>yards downfield. The ended up hooking the safety and resulting

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a big game. So that was where Clemson saw the

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 2>reaction from Ohio State and then stressed the linebackers. A

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 2>fun example from earlier in the years, Ole Miss runs

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 2>this play a little bit, and when they played Alabama

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>early on, Alabama had its safeties coming down hill hard

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 2>because they were Savans known for playing sort of Cover

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 2>one with a single safety deep or Cover three, but

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>actually against a lot of spread teams, he'll play a

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>lot more sort of two safety looks where the safeties

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 2>can get involved in the run game. And they ran

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a play where they faked the toss read, the running

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>back ran out wide, the guard pulled, but it was

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 2>a play action pass and they had a sixty three

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 2>yard touchdown wide open because the safety and sort of

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the nickel guy both just came up to try to

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>stop the sweep in the quarterback. So that's the fun

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>part about it is that it's a cat and mouse

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>game sort of on the macro sense, but even in

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>the micro you figure out who's overreacting, what are they

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>doing to take away the play, and then you come

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>back with something else to try to take advantage. I

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>do expect to see clems and take a couple of shots,

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe faking the toss read or even the toss sort

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>of read counter or that they were running, and then

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe trying to take a shot to Mike Williams or

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody downfield.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Do you anticipate Alabama being able to adjust quickly? I

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 3>mean we're still talking about about seven to nine days

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 3>to be able to adjust to all of the different

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 3>options that Clemson will have. Or is it simply a

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 3>cat and mouse thing and hope that your talent is

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 3>good enough to play on an island?

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes and no. Will Alabama adjusts and alaban

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>be prepared? Yes, that team does nothing but adjust and prepare,

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and even within series, between series, between plays, once you

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>do something that works, you know the old adage with Alabama,

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>and I've heard everybody from Gus malls On to other

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 2>people say, if it worked in you know, one series,

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>don't expect it to ever work again, because that team

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 2>adjusts like no other. You know. On the other hand,

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's there's a limited number of numbers. And

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>this is where Clemson now being in the in the playoffs,

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>where they're they're sort of using the full talents of Watson,

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 2>understand that they don't want to take him to take

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of hits, but using his full talents to

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 2>try to stress the defense. So then it does result

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>in Okay, if Alabama's going to bring a safety up,

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe they don't, you know, fake them out like all

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 2>missed it. But you still have a one on one

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>with you know, Mike Williams or somebody and just it's

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 2>just a regular play action pass or some mother traditional

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>run or they're able to option a guy or do something.

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>But then you know, the other element too, is that

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the play only works if you can block the counter

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 2>or block the power. And as you've seen, you know,

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>even Washington, who I thought had a perfectly rational plan

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>against Alabama, they might make the right read, but can't

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>block Jonathan Allen on the double team, and he splits

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>her double team and then you know he was ready

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>to tackle the quarterback two years deep in the backfield.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>You had the right scheme, but just didn't get those

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>guys blocked. And that's that's a lot of what Alabama's

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>just done to people this year, is that you know,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>a scheme destroyers, you have a great plan but can't

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 2>block the front seven.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Something you've also written about recently is you've looked over

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>an older Clemson playbook from a couple of years ago

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 3>and sort of notice certain themes throughout, and it seemed

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>like the main thing that jumped out to you was simplicity,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>which has gone a long way obviously for Clemson. I

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 3>think there's something like fifty nine to nine since they

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 3>lost the Orange Bowl. How do you think a sort

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 3>of theme and notion of simplicit city plays to Clemson's

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 3>possible strength against a near impossible defense.

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's a strength until it isn't. So

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 2>it's a strengthen that it gets everywhere on the same page.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>They're able to play with a lot of tempo. Is

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>what a lot of that's built around is that they

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.719
<v Speaker 2>have a good number of formations, but they don't They

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>don't throw a ton of concepts at you, and then

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>they do include things. They include a variety of concepts

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>or ideas or different schemes without having to have a

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>million ways to do each one. So they have quick passes,

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>downfield passes, play action passes, sort of shot sort of

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>deep plays. They have base runs, option runs, read runs, screens.

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>They have all those different things, but they don't have

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a huge playbook like there's some kind of West Coast offense.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>They have one hundred versions of each and so it

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>allows them to play fast, play efficient, and they're very good.

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>And I give a credit to Davo at a staff.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 2>They really think players not plays. They're not. They're not

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to say fool you though, they're they're doing soundstf

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.959
<v Speaker 2>up and try to, you know, get advantages. But it's it's,

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, recruit really good players and get them the

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>ball in their hands and put them in good, good positions.

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>But eventually you know there there can be limits, is

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>too much simplicity if the other team knows what's coming

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and they can stop it, I mean, and that's sort

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>of the ultimate challenge on that is playing an experienced,

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 2>well coached Alabama defense who who their preparation is is unreal.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>You can't tell me that that they didn't spend some

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of the bowl preparation time on Clemson, a team they

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>also prepared for last year, so they're very familiar with them.

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And so a question then becomes that they if Alabama

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>can get ahead of you, do you have answers, and

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>and that's where the challenges if you're too simple, is

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>that if they take away sort of option A m

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>B and you just don't even have a C. So

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>so that's where that that kind of mouse game goes.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 2>It's also just a matter of the other thing I

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>thought was interesting in the playbook was the passing game

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>was really really really simple. I mean it was like

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>almost so simple. It's like it's kind of a high

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>school passing game at times. Now they've grown it a lot.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>That was from twenty thirteen Deshaun Watson. They've really tried

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>to expand it to to sort of benefit the sounds,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>but they're not running the West Coast offense over there.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it is based on you got to

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>defend the run. You got to defend the formations, you

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>got to defend the tempo. You got to fend the

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 2>read the read option stuff. And then they'll even do

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the run pass options things for you know, if you

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>crash down, the throw a hitchress or a little you know,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>a quick screen or something like that, and then only that,

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and then they'll even do some you know, motions and

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>bootlegs and stuff to get the pass game and only

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>at that point is that okay, and go drop back

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and read one, two, three, four in a pass progression.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's really hard to do that against

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Alabama because they rush you so fast. But it's also

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 2>a team that is going to force you to do

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>what you don't feature. And last year in the Bowl,

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>in the in the championship game, you know, Watson threw

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the ball really well and the biggest thing was the

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>receivers went up and made a bunch of contested catches

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>and big plays. And so I think that will be

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the stress on Clemsons playbook, on Watson himself, and then

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>on on on the whole Clemson team is can they

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 2>execute in the past game against the defense that I

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>mean they're running in an NFL sophisticated defense over there.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like the Bible their playbook. And so I mean,

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I always say, comparing Clemson's offensive playbook to Alabama's defensive playbook,

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>there are more pages dedicated to path concepts and offensive

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>formations and schemes in Alabama's defensive playbook than they were

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>in Clemson's offensive playbook. It is a Bible of defense.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So so that would be a real challenge and I mean,

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, the the group that I'm I think we'll

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>know pretty early in the game how how the flow

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of the game is going to go. Because last year

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Clemson's offensive line played outs out really really well. Obviously

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Watson played great and Golman and those guys, but the

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>offensive line blocked those guys, and I think that's the

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll see in the first few series. Can

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>they block Alabama? Because as I said, you can have

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>all the great scheme in the world, a lot of that.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, Alabama's made a habit of throwing that out

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the window by just being in your backfield the whole game.

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Final question, it's something you've talked about extensively, not just

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 3>with Nick Saban, but also with some other really noted

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 3>defensive minds like Gary Patterson. Alabama plays a couple of

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 3>different coverages against you know, we're talking about a very

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>good quarterback and Deshaun Watson, but against everybody, and the

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>thing that you've sort of come back to and explained,

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and if you could just give a cliffs notes, especially

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 3>since Clemson will run some we'll run a lot of

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 3>tempo and a lot of run pass option at times,

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 3>what exactly is pattern matching and how can it help

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>to deaden run pass option and some sort of more

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>stressful spread option attacks.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, a couple couple of elements of pattern matching, and

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 2>really at this point it's just becomes sort of a principle,

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's actually increasingly difficult to find teams

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>that don't use some sort of pattern match concept as

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>opposed to traditional zone. And so all pattern matching is

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>is really it's somewhere between a matchup zone and basketball.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>There another way to think about it is it's just

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 2>mann to man, but instead of just old school backyard

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>saying I got him, I got him, I got him,

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>and you just play man across the field. It's a

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 2>man to man, but there's some rules and principles, so

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 2>meaning that I have man to man on him if

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>he runs ten yards downfield, and then I just play

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>man on him everywhere. Or I have man to man

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 2>on him if he runs a short route, but then

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't, I'm gonna then become a floating robber player,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>or I'll go double team someone else. And so it's

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>just rules. I increasingly just think about it's rules for

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>mando man defense, which is one reason why I think

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Alabama is so good at coaching is because they play

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of just true man and then they also

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>mix in pattern match concepts. And so the other element

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>is that one reason they're so good at pass defense

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is that because they're a pattern match. It's the rules

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>for mando man. But then they specifically and as I said,

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 2>their playbook has like one hundred and something pages on

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 2>like passing concepts. Is that Saban teaches them, not just

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you know the old school zone is dropped to your

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 2>zone and you know, watch read the quarterback's eyes and

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>break on the ball. And this goes back to saving

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>time with Bill Belichick. I mean he's just say, you know,

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you're playing Dan Marino, they will break on the ball.

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Shit don't work. So that's how where a lot of

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>this grew out of. So they they have names for them.

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>So they they name it's like, you know, one concept

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is poll, another is slugo, another is seam, another is

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>is whatever the concept. So they actually teach the defense

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>here's the actual passing concept they're running. And so when

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>you read their playbook, it looks like a like an

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>NFL playbook for an offense because they have every pass

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 2>concept that you could see. So what that does is

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a few things. One a big tenet of Savings defenses

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 2>is he doesn't like to give you easy throws. You know,

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 2>he talks a lot about when you watch one on

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>one drills for you know, the defenses that they're playing

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>off coverage, it's like eighty percent eighty five percent completions

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 2>for the offense, but all of a sudden you get

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>there and press them and challenge receivers, the completion percentage

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>drops toll like thirty twenty five percent. Now, most coaches

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>are afraid to because they're afraid of getting be deep.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>But a Savan's got great athletes and he personally coaches

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the secondary. They also have a great pass rush. You

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of time. And then the big thing

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>is his theory is that if you just can get

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>offensives off schedule. So the other thing was where it

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>helps defend on things like run pass options is just

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.479
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they're actually covering all the receivers. They're

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 2>defending them all. The whole point of a run pass

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.760
<v Speaker 2>option is you're either running the ball or you're taking

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 2>some sort of gimme easy throw, like a quick screen

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 2>to the outside. Or like a five yard stop route

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>by a receiver and they're just covering those receivers taking

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>them away. I will say pattern match, you could argue,

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>is at times more vulnerable to run pass options. And

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>if you watch you know, like a team like the

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Baylor teams or some of those that sort of were

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>very aggressive run pass option teams, a lot of that

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>was designed around taking advantage of pattern match teams because

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 2>those teams will often have players who are in sort

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>of both run in pass responsibility. So there's still elements

0:36:58.120 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>to that. But I think the biggest thing that Alabama

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 2>does that makes it hard to run and be really

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 2>good at run pass options against them is that they

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 2>just run so many defenses you don't know where they're

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 2>going to be. It's like it's sort of like old

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 2>school option football. If you're you run the triple option,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to read the defensive end with the defensive

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>tackle or the linebacker. If they're moving defenses and blitzing

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>guys and moving stunts and playing I mean say it.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean you talk about coverages. I mean a lot

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of them are variations on the same coverages, but I

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 2>mean they have seventy coverages fifty coverages, you know, all

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 2>these different Seahawks, a solo special clip, cover two buster like,

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, cover two cut, like all these different rules

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 2>that just change little subtle things that make it really hard.

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you don't know who you're optioning, and in

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 2>this case, a run pass option, it's really hard. And

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>then that leads to indecision and either a mistake or

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>interception or just a blown out play. So Alan, it

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>is really hard. I think Clemson's actually got a shot,

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>but I think we'll learn pretty early whether they can

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>move the ball. The advantage for Clemson is that they

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>can get up Alabama's often. I don't think it's geared

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to throw the ball and come back, though they did

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>it against All miss But but it'll be a challenge.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 4>All right. Again, that is our good friend Chris B.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 4>Brown from Smart Football dot Com. We didn't just want

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 4>to leave you with one bit of scheme. Yeah, theme

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 4>type stuff. Did we hit on Clemson. We hit on

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 4>some of the Alabama defensive stuff. But there's a whole

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 4>other world in this game. There's a whole other world

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 4>in this game, and we alluded to it a little

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 4>bit earlier. Jalen hurts this year gave Alabama a whole

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 4>different dimension.

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 3>He did.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 4>We're not used to seeing, you know, a guy who

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 4>can run. Jake Kocher didn't run last year. I think

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 4>back o roy Rad Gallops. Yeah, I mean, this is

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.919
<v Speaker 4>not part of Alabama's offensive game plan, and it's made

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 4>them all the more dangerous. So we wanted to talk

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 4>to somebody who could fill in the gaps and let

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 4>us know how has this changed things? How will it

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 4>changed things in this game?

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think the best answer is they actually use him,

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 8>and they use him a lot. You know, in previous

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 8>years kind of because of the class of quarterback that

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 8>Nick Saban recruited in that Alabama had, they just didn't

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 8>really they didn't really have guys that were runners. They

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 8>were running a more pro style, kind of bash you

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 8>over the head type of offensive system. But as Nick

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 8>Saban has seen what types of offenses have beaten him

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 8>or at least given him trouble in the past few

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 8>years at Alabama, the Tide have evolved into this and

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 8>this is really really good and really really hard to stop.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 8>Because Jalen hurts is I don't want to call him

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 8>a glorified running back. That's taking away from his ceiling

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 8>as a passer, which I think is high, although he

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 8>hasn't met it because he's just a freshman, and I

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 8>understand that. But he is the leading ball carrier on

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 8>this team, like he is their best running back and

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 8>their quarterback. And that's what's so so scary about kind

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 8>of this like three now a three headed monster that

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 8>album has.

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 4>And beyond that, they're gonna.

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 8>Use both Scarborough a lot in the National Championship Game

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 8>as well, lane Kiffin said. And this is even in

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 8>the wake of his you know ouster, whatever you want

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 8>to call it. Lane Kiffin has said that the game

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 8>plan was to give Bo Scarborough the ball more than

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 8>any person on Alabama's roster. So in essence, the thing

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.439
<v Speaker 8>might even I don't think it's gonna flip to Jalen

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 8>Hurd's not getting so many carries. I just think Alabama

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 8>in general is going to run the ball a lot

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 8>more in the National Championship Game. It's just going to

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 8>be more from like a two headed thing than it

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 8>is just Jalen or a reliance on just Bo Scarborough.

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 8>It's gonna be the both of them kind of taking

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 8>cracks at Clemson's at Clemson's defense.

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Schematically, what are the keys for Alabama's success rushing the

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 3>ball successfully in this new formation? In this new strategy, it.

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 8>Is still largely the zone runs inside and outside zone

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:03.720
<v Speaker 8>that they've always done, the wrinkles that they that they employ.

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 8>You know, they'll do some stuff with some wide receiver sweeps.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 8>You'll see Alabama do a little bit of mid line

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 8>option where instead of you know, typically in a zone

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 8>read or an option system, you'll see the quarterback read

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 8>the defensive end, but in a mid line option he

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.359
<v Speaker 8>literally will read like the nose tackle. Like he'll read

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 8>a defensive tackle instead of defensive end. So it'll look

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 8>a little bit different on a film and you'll say, oh, well,

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 8>what was that. Well, he's still making a read, it's

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 8>just a different player that he's reading. But they'll also

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 8>use receivers. They send receivers in motion a lot more

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 8>than anything. They do it to get the eye discipline

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 8>of the defense going the wrong way. They want you

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 8>to pay attention to the wide receiver and almost kind

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 8>of use him as a decoy to get you out

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 8>of phase or to move you out of position and

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 8>negate whatever angle you may have. So the blocking angle

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 8>is more advantageous for Alabama, and you know, Jalen Hurts

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 8>as a really really asked athlete, or even Bo Scarborough

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 8>is better suited to blow by you because you, as

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 8>a tackler, do not have the angle that you once did.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 8>But the bread and butter is still inside and outside zone.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 8>It's the same thing that your own college football team

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 8>probably runs. If you're a fan of the sport. It

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 8>is what pretty much everybody runs, and Alabama, obviously with

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 8>their horses, just do it better than anybody else.

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 3>How simple do you feel like Alabama's offense has been

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 3>made for a true freshman quarterback?

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if simple is the word to put it.

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 8>I do think like they've added things that suit him,

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 8>like they've just they've plugged him into a system that

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 8>more suits him. I think as an athlete, as a

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 8>general athlete, even more than just a quarterback. You know,

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 8>I know they don't throw the ball, some of the

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 8>concepts and that kind of stuff in a passing game.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 8>You know, they're not terribly complex or intricate. But then

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 8>that goes back to the fact that they they run

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 8>the ball a lot, and they run it really, really well.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 8>So you know it is, like I said, it is

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 8>largely the same Alabama. They've added some things, you know.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 8>Chris Brown Smart Football wrote about the toss read that

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 8>they have. I hadn't got a chance to read that,

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 8>but like that's one of those like little wrinkles that

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 8>they do that I think people like think, is this

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 8>like really really big thing, But it's it is essentially

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 8>an add in to the general running game concepts that

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 8>they already have in place. Like Alabama's not going to

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 8>reinvent the wheel, really, They're just going to kind of

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 8>tweak what works and continue to do it at a

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 8>very high level.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 3>With respect to other teams that have been certainly doing

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 3>this longer. How well do you feel like al Alabama

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 3>has executed. How successful does Alabama look running a more wide, open,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 3>running quarterback friendly offense.

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 8>Oh, they look good, And they look good because.

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 6>Of the personnel more than anything else.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 8>I mean, like I've already said it, like the personnel,

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 8>it's just really good. Like it's still just really good.

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 8>And if Hurts was a more polished passer at this

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 8>stage in his development, I think they would look even better.

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 8>I mean, if they were able to really I mean

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 8>Calvin Ridley is a guy that and our Darius Stewart

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 8>just really really talented whiteouts. Gar Dieters a tight end

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 8>like these guys are, I don't want to say lost

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 8>in the sauce, but a little bit forgotten about just

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 8>because Alabama doesn't necessarily, like in that Washington game, like

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 8>they didn't really hit one of those like Alabama play

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 8>action bombs that you kind of expect them to hit

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 8>when they run so well. So those other kind of

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 8>like wide receivers like that, they're not even really getting

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 8>used as much as in years past or you know,

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 8>really showing off what they can do.

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.919
<v Speaker 4>All right, That was Richard Johnson. We've got much more

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 4>to discuss here on our layered college football National Championship preview.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we getting to the sour cream?

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Is that how that's working?

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 4>A little black beab, that's I think that's sort of

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 4>how it's going. Look, so let's pay some bills. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>a better way to cook. Daniel. Yes, there is another

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 4>storyline that is being widely reported. As you know, Blank

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 4>Kiffen no longer the offensive coordinator for Alabama. He was

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 4>all year, he was all last year. Yeah, most important

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 4>game of the season. Nick Saban decides, Ah, let's turn

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.280
<v Speaker 4>it over to the understudy.

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Here before that, if I recall correctly as well, Yeah,

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 3>let's turn it over to one Steve Sarkisian. Indeed, So

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 3>started the season out looking like he was going to

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 3>be calling like the number three Fox Sports one Big

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Twelve Game of the Week, finishes the season controlling an

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 3>offense for his first national championship since his run at USC.

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's a bit of a meteoric rise.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd say so.

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 4>It'd be more meteoric if he didn't already have some

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 4>prominent head coaching and play calling experience. But nonetheless it

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 4>is notable in the biggest game of the college football season.

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 4>What we wanted to do is figure just how is

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 4>this going to factor in? We needed to find somebody.

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 4>Is there anybody out there that you can think of?

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, somebody who knows what both these guys

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 4>can do as play callers. Sure, if we can find

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 4>that human being, maybe you could add another layer here.

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel like if we could find somebody, perhaps perhaps

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 3>who has followed USC for decades and might know some

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 3>tendencies and per personality quirks of Steve Sarkisian. Maybe somebody

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 3>like Ryan Abraham of USC football dot Com to weigh in.

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Ryan Abraham, he's seen both play callers up close and

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 4>in person. How are these guys like, how are they different?

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>How to listen?

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 9>There are certainly some similarities between Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian,

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 9>both coming from that Pete Carroll Tree at USC as

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 9>far as being offensive coordinators and play callers. First, with

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:27.919
<v Speaker 9>Steve Sarkasian, I think he's actually probably a better play

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 9>caller than Lane. I think a little bit less ego

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 9>gets involved, and I can talk about that in a

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 9>minute with Lane Kiffin, but I don't think he's probably

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 9>like as an original thinker as Lane. Lane's a little

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 9>bit more creative, maybe thinking more outside of the box.

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 9>I think what you saw he ran more of a

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 9>spread system up in Seattle, and I really like the

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 9>way he utilized the tight ends and focused on the

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 9>running game too. It wasn't just a pass happy offense,

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 9>and they kind of got away from that when he

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 9>came to USC. But you know what you saw in Seattle,

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 9>I thought there were some real positive signs there, and

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 9>then you know, coming back down to USC, the offense,

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 9>you know, it wasn't really what a lot of USC

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 9>fans thought it was going to be. Now, he only

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 9>lasted for eighteen games, and I think it's still a

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 9>lot of that was under development, and you saw Cody

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 9>Kussler be a really efficient passer under Steve Starkesian, but

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 9>it really wasn't quite the explosive offense that a lot

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 9>of people would have liked to see. As far as

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 9>Lane Kiffin goes, I do think his ego kind of

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 9>gets in the way sometimes as a play caller. He

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 9>does seem to be a guy that's a lot more

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 9>about the x's and o's of the play than the

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 9>you know, the Jimmies and Joe's. You have a lot

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 9>of great players and a lot of times you're just

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 9>trying to fool somebody or you know, show somebody how

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 9>smart you are. And I think you could see that

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 9>in a lot of the games he called, especially this

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 9>last game in the semi final, when you're talking, you

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 9>have a running back that's just bowling people over and

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 9>you decide to go away from that, and and it's

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 9>just you've seen that before, even like using the util

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 9>of the tight end he waited to all season last

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 9>year until the National Championship Game. There's so many weapons

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 9>there at Alabama, and I think it gets to the

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.959
<v Speaker 9>point where if there's something that's obviously working, he doesn't

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 9>want to use it because it doesn't really give him a.

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:14.399
<v Speaker 4>Whole lot of credit.

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 9>If you see bos Scarborough just running people over, everyone

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 9>kind of knows that all ray, So he'd rather do

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 9>something else to show you how smart he is.

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 4>So that's good info. The other thing we asked Ryan

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 4>is how he thinks Sark is going to handle this

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 4>sudden onslaught of pressure. Because he's been on the sidelines

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 4>since its dismissal from USC This is a big spot

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 4>to just plug and play. How will he deal with

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 4>that kind of pressure.

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm more curious long term what his situation at

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Alabama is. I think, you know, in a short amount

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 3>of time, Yes, he's being thrust into a big position

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 3>like the National Championship Game, but it's basically a week.

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 3>It is a week, and he will either figure out

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 3>how to make it his own and sort of call

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 3>this game successfully or he won't. I'm curious about the

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 3>weekend week out the recruiting, the meeting, that whole thing.

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 3>What Steve Sarkisian's long term tenure a year, two years,

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 3>three years looks like at Alabama, That's the fascinating thing.

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 9>Here's what Ryan Abraham had to say as far as

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 9>sark taking over for Lanes, Certainly there's going to be

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 9>a lot of pressure there, but there's not a lot

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 9>of time to think about it.

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Five or six days.

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 9>We've seen you know, Sark fold under pressure at usc

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 9>as last game when he played his former team Washington.

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 9>But he's had a lot of time off and I think,

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 9>you know, hopefully his mind is right and he'll be

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 9>able to jump back into the game. But just from

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 9>being on the sidelines all this time, you're thrust into

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 9>the most important game probably of your career. I do

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 9>think there's going to be a lot of pressure there,

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 9>but he's not going to be able to change all

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 9>that much. I do expect it to see. I think

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 9>he's going to recognize probably what works best and where

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 9>the best assets are. I think you're going to see

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 9>Jalen Hurts, you know, run the ball just like you

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 9>normally would, but both Scarborough being able to pound the

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 9>ball of it. Maybe it won't be as easy against

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 9>that Clemson front versus Washington, but I think they're going

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 9>to be committed to the run, and I think you're

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 9>going to utilize the tight end position a little bit more,

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.280
<v Speaker 9>which can be kind of a security blanket for any quarterback,

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 9>especially a freshman one. So I kind of think he's

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 9>going to do okay in that role. You know, it's

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 9>Nick Saban's show and Steve Sarkisian is basically just taking

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 9>over as the show for He's not going to be

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 9>asked to do a lot. Call the plays, get the

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 9>guys out there, you have, you know, superior athletes most

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 9>of the time, put them in a position to win,

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 9>and I think he'll be able.

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>To do that.

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 4>All Right, There you go everything you ever wanted to

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 4>know about Steve Sarkisian. Yeah, Link Kiffin, what have you from?

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 4>A guy who would know Ryan Abraham from USC football the.

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Smartest of us all, living in southern California in the sunshine?

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 8>You know it?

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 10>Man?

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 4>All right? You've heard the expression the game within the game. Yeah,

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 4>I think it's overused. There are like eight different games

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 4>within this game. And we're doing our best here with

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 4>this preview to try and cover them all the coaches.

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 4>How could we omit the coaches. Let's talk about coaches now.

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, first up as Andy Staples, who has written about

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 3>the process, and the key thing to remember with Nick

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Saban and the process in Alabama is it's not a

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 3>results oriented thing. It is a literal journey to the results.

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.360
<v Speaker 3>That's where the satisfaction comes from. So really interested to

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 3>hear from Andy about where he feels like this year's

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Alabama team ranks or just sort of settles among the

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 3>recent great Alabama teams. And if he feels like Nick

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban is in a place where he is he

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 3>is pleased, He is satisfied his happy places. Absolutely.

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 10>I think he's pretty pleased because this is sort of

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 10>his evolution plan coming to Fruition. You know, he started

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 10>this thing probably even before Johnny Football beat them in

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 10>twenty twelve. He was aware that the offense was changing,

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 10>that they were going to have to deal with more

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.359
<v Speaker 10>and more duel threat quarterbacks, that the things that they

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 10>did on defense weren't going to work as well anymore

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 10>as the game evolved. So he started recruiting like the

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:05.839
<v Speaker 10>class of twenty thirteen, Jonathan Allen, Tim Williams. Those guys

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:10.400
<v Speaker 10>are not guys that they necessarily would have recruited for

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:14.320
<v Speaker 10>the same positions in two thousand and eight, because before

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:17.800
<v Speaker 10>the defense was designed to stop LSU, they had to

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 10>deal with LSU. That was the biggest threat to them.

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 10>And LSU played basically like they did. They were you know,

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 10>could play in a phone booth downhill running. You needed

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 10>to be huge up the middle. You needed Terrence Cody

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 10>three hundred and forty pounds up the middle. You needed

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 10>Rolando McClaine two hundred and sixty five pounds behind him.

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 10>Now you've got Duran Payne at about three fifteen in

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 10>three twenty, and then behind him you've got Reuben Foster

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 10>at like two twenty eight and Jonathan Allen at two ninety,

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:54.879
<v Speaker 10>where Jesse Williams played at about three twenty. So it's

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 10>it is definitely shrunken the defense, and then offensively, the

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 10>chance is more obvious because they went after the same

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 10>kind of quarterback that they were having trouble with and

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 10>they finally landed one of Jalen Hurts and low and behold,

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 10>he wins the starting job as freshman year. So I

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 10>think this is the result of all the changes that

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 10>he started making around twenty twelve. It's hard to tell

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 10>if it was before or after that season that they

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 10>began in earnest, but the fact that a lot of

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 10>these guys that are in the twenty thirteen class have

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 10>been such big contributors to the changes suggest that he

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:36.879
<v Speaker 10>already had them in mind even before that season began.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times, after either losses or close wins

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 3>shootout type games, whether it's Texas A and M, whether

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 3>it's Ole Mess last year against Clemson, Nick Saban will

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.879
<v Speaker 3>talk about being relieved to sort of escape with a win,

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 3>or you know, being kept up nights. Do you think

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 3>this is all sort of part of his evolution? Has

0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 3>he always wanted to be able to feel different types

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 3>of defenses? Do you think he as an a stubbornness

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 3>streak to what kind of defenses he plays? Or is

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 3>it just sort of this is what's necessary, this is

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 3>what he's going to do.

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 10>He's one of the least philosophically stubborn coaches in football.

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 10>He is more inquisitive, more open to adaptation than most

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:23.399
<v Speaker 10>of his peers, and that's why he beats his peers

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 10>so often. Because the coaches who say this is my system.

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 10>I'm the genius who came up with this. You will

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 10>do what my genius mind came up with, and that's

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 10>all we're going to do. They're the ones who get

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 10>passed by.

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 9>Well.

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:42.360
<v Speaker 10>Nick Saban is still winning national titles in basically different

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:45.879
<v Speaker 10>eras of college football. Because you know, the clock rule

0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 10>change in two thousand and eight. He's won four national

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 10>titles since then. But I would argue that the first

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 10>three the world hadn't changed all that much. The last

0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 10>one was a very different football environment than the first three,

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:05.840
<v Speaker 10>and so I think that's probably the biggest thing is

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 10>he's willing to chall Like Ohio State beats him, he

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 10>brings in Tom Herman and says, show us how you

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 10>beat us, and then he adapts to it. You know

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 10>when when he brings in a new fortin Angel Kiffany says,

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 10>these are some of the things I want done. I

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 10>want you to up the tempo. I want jet sweeps,

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 10>I want this, I want this, I want this, And

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 10>you know, Lank Kippen had never been enough tempo offensive

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 10>coordinator before he got to Alabama. That was Nick Saban's doing.

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Is there any reason to believe now that Deshaun Watson,

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 3>the Clemson offensive coaching staffs, and now Clemson's offense with

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 3>an added weapon they didn't have last year on Mike Williams.

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Is there any reason to believe playing Alabama's defense already

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 3>on this stage last year gives them an advantage that

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban having played Clemson's offense does. Does Clemson have

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 3>any sort of advantage over Nick Saban.

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 10>At this point, It's not an advantage they have over

0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:01.040
<v Speaker 10>Nick Saban. It's a difference between them and most of

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 10>the teams Alabama plays. Most of the teams Alabama plays

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 10>lose to fear before they lose to Alabama's actual defense.

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 10>And Clempton has no reason to fear Alabama's defense because

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 10>they scored forty on them last year for the same

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 10>reason that Ole miss this year did not fear Alabama's

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 10>defense because they meet the Alabama two years in a row.

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 10>So you've got to have some success against them before

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.040
<v Speaker 10>they stop feeding you when they get off the bus.

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 10>For lack of a better term, I mean, part of

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 10>the problem is teams that haven't had success against them

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 10>or have never seen them before. You see them show

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 10>up for warm ups and you're like Oh my lord,

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 10>every one of these people is going to be in

0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 10>the NFL. They're so much better than us. How are

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 10>we going to do this?

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 10>But Clemson has basically the same level of athlete and

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.400
<v Speaker 10>they had such success last year. I don't think they're

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 10>going to come in afraid of Alabama at all. And

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:03.800
<v Speaker 10>that's one of the biggest advantage that Alabama has in

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 10>most games.

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 9>It will not have it in this game.

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Is there any reason to believe that Nick Saban now,

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 3>especially if he wins this year, he is sort of

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 3>in uncharted territory high level college pro football in terms

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 3>of how often he's won. Is there any sense that

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 3>there is a point in which Nick Saban will just

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 3>be satisfied with his accomplishments.

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 10>I think he's got a pass Bear Bryant, and if

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 10>he wins this one, he'll tie him, so we would

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 10>still need one more at least. And you know, it's

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 10>sort of like the whole Tiger Wood situation. You assume

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 10>this can go on forever and then all of a

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:47.479
<v Speaker 10>sudden it just drops off. I don't see a drop

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 10>off coming up for Nick Saban. He's sixty five, but

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 10>he looks like he's forty. This might be his best

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 10>recruiting class in class twenty seventeen that he's had at Alabama,

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 10>which is saying something. So they seem to be set

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 10>up to compete for national titles for at least three

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 10>four more years. So I think he's got a good

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 10>chance of passing Bear Bryant. But it's hard to win

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 10>a national title, and probably nobody knows it more than

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 10>he does because he's won so many of them, and

1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 10>it is not easy to get there. It takes some

1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:23.920
<v Speaker 10>good fortune, it takes some breaks, and so if he

1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 10>wins this one, I would bet he's gonna go for at.

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Least one more so other guys who have had not

1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 3>this level of success but ongoing year over year over

1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:37.919
<v Speaker 3>year over year success recently. So Pete Carroll and Urban

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Meyer are the two big ones that come to mind

1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 3>in terms of winning national championships plural. They leave their

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:47.240
<v Speaker 3>jobs for you know, Urban Meyer for health and burnout reasons.

1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Pete Carroll leaves, I mean there's the looming sanctions and

1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:54.040
<v Speaker 3>also the opportunity to succeed again in the NFL, and

1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:57.720
<v Speaker 3>also the he did which he did, and the limitations

1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:00.120
<v Speaker 3>of you can only practice so much you can. You know, well,

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 3>there were certain levels that Pete Carroll didn't want to

1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:06.840
<v Speaker 3>or certain things that he didn't want to deal with

1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:11.400
<v Speaker 3>anymore at usc If not for just being satisfied, what

1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:15.320
<v Speaker 3>is either a positive or negative thing that you could

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.280
<v Speaker 3>see Nick Saban just saying all right, my time in

1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Tuscaloosa is over.

1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:24.240
<v Speaker 10>The only thing I think that would would bother him

1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.640
<v Speaker 10>enough to chase him out are the expectation that they

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<v Speaker 10>are supposed to win every game in every national title,

1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:35.320
<v Speaker 10>because realistically that's not possible, even though they've come awfully close.

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:40.560
<v Speaker 10>I think that's probably the biggest knock on that job

1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:45.080
<v Speaker 10>right now. But he's got a better job than most

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:48.120
<v Speaker 10>of his peers because he can go to the president

1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.120
<v Speaker 10>and say this is what I want and he'll get it,

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:54.760
<v Speaker 10>and not many of the coaches get that. So he's

1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:55.600
<v Speaker 10>in a good spot.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think.

1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.400
<v Speaker 10>I mean, he would have gone back in the NFL already.

1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:02.120
<v Speaker 10>I think if he was going back, I think he's

1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 10>going to be a college coach. He's going to be

1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.400
<v Speaker 10>a college coach to Alabama. I think the next move

1:02:06.560 --> 1:02:10.280
<v Speaker 10>is to TV. But question is how many more titles

1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 10>is he going to win before you go to TV.

1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:15.720
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that's obviously a big storyline going

1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 3>in is Steve Sarkasian taking over the offense. Is there

1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:23.720
<v Speaker 3>anything that's known about the relationship between Steve Sarkasian, who

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:27.120
<v Speaker 3>advances from being an analyst, and Nick Saban? Obviously the

1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:30.800
<v Speaker 3>langkiffn relationship seemed, at least from the outside, pretty contentious.

1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Is there anything that's known sort of with sark being

1:02:34.120 --> 1:02:35.200
<v Speaker 3>thrust into this position.

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<v Speaker 10>Not really, not much is emerged in terms of behind

1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:43.920
<v Speaker 10>the scenes stuff. But you know Sarkaty's troubles at USC

1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:50.560
<v Speaker 10>with alcohol, but common sense tells you that he probably

1:02:50.640 --> 1:02:54.640
<v Speaker 10>hasn't had many issues at Alabama because if he did,

1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:57.160
<v Speaker 10>he would have been fired from his thirty five dollars

1:02:57.440 --> 1:03:01.920
<v Speaker 10>a year for analyst job immediately. I mean, this was

1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:04.960
<v Speaker 10>a second chance, zero tolerance kind of deal for him

1:03:05.160 --> 1:03:08.440
<v Speaker 10>when he got brought in. So my guess is he's

1:03:08.720 --> 1:03:12.200
<v Speaker 10>he's been able to do what he's because think about this,

1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:14.720
<v Speaker 10>if there were any froms Nick Saban would know about them,

1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:19.600
<v Speaker 10>and a guy who hates distractions more than anything else,

1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:24.040
<v Speaker 10>if there'd been proms, those would have been distractions and

1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:28.120
<v Speaker 10>a thirty five thousand dollars. Your analyst is not worth distractions,

1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:31.600
<v Speaker 10>So that would have been that. So I don't know

1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:35.160
<v Speaker 10>about in terms of interpersonal relationship, I don't. The question

1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:38.800
<v Speaker 10>is how much into personal contact had they had before

1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:43.840
<v Speaker 10>this week, because obviously Sark was being groomed for this.

1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:48.200
<v Speaker 10>But were they talking every day? Were they talking a

1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:50.040
<v Speaker 10>couple times a week? Where they're talking once a week.

1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:53.640
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it's a pretty big organization that they SAVEN runs.

1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:59.080
<v Speaker 10>How much realistically could he have dealings with one of

1:03:59.080 --> 1:03:59.600
<v Speaker 10>the analyts?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:03.240
<v Speaker 3>On that same note that is, what is it about

1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban's I guess, force of personality or regimen or

1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:10.040
<v Speaker 3>ability to run a program? And mentioning Pete Carroll earlier,

1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:11.480
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that sort of be deviled him

1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:14.320
<v Speaker 3>was attrition coaches, players, whatever. It's just hard to keep

1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:17.200
<v Speaker 3>things up year over year. Nick Saban loses coaches, he

1:04:17.360 --> 1:04:21.800
<v Speaker 3>loses position coaches, coordinators, whatever, and yet from the outside

1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:24.280
<v Speaker 3>the drop off is minimal, if any. What is it

1:04:24.360 --> 1:04:28.200
<v Speaker 3>about Nick Saban specifically that makes him so good at

1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:32.880
<v Speaker 3>just being consistent in hiring the right people, in figuring

1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:36.640
<v Speaker 3>out the right ways to sort of mix people. What

1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:39.680
<v Speaker 3>is it about the sort of the business mind of

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Saban that so consistently works.

1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:46.400
<v Speaker 10>He's willing to be more consistent, and he's more disciplined

1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:49.960
<v Speaker 10>than the rest of us. There are people as disciplined

1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:53.720
<v Speaker 10>as him, but there aren't many, all right, Dan, You

1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:56.320
<v Speaker 10>and I when we were thinking about what we were

1:04:56.400 --> 1:05:04.680
<v Speaker 10>going to eat for lunch, we imagine the entire realm spectrum. Yeah, Taco's,

1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:10.800
<v Speaker 10>pita burgers, sushi, you name it. They say it needs

1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:15.200
<v Speaker 10>the same salad for lunch every day because that's one

1:05:15.280 --> 1:05:18.280
<v Speaker 10>less choice he has to make. He likes it, tastes good,

1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:23.160
<v Speaker 10>gives him what he needs. That's all he needs. And

1:05:24.480 --> 1:05:28.680
<v Speaker 10>you would call that boring. I wouldn't do that, but

1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:30.840
<v Speaker 10>that makes me less consistent than he is. That makes

1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:35.240
<v Speaker 10>me less disciplined than he is. He is disciplined like

1:05:35.360 --> 1:05:41.320
<v Speaker 10>that in every phase of his professional life, which creates

1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:44.640
<v Speaker 10>a very disciplined program. And he hires people that are

1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:47.200
<v Speaker 10>going to adhere to that discipline, and if they aren't,

1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:48.840
<v Speaker 10>they're not going to be around very long.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think winning football makes him happy or do

1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:54.400
<v Speaker 3>you think working to win at football makes him happy?

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<v Speaker 10>That's a process question right there, and it's a good one.

1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:01.240
<v Speaker 10>The process tells you when football is not the thing

1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:05.600
<v Speaker 10>that will make you happy doing, the things that make

1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:08.800
<v Speaker 10>you whin it's football are the things that should satisfy you.

1:06:09.920 --> 1:06:13.160
<v Speaker 10>And then you reach the ultimate goal because you took

1:06:13.360 --> 1:06:15.760
<v Speaker 10>every step along the way. I always tell people this.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you remember the exercise in kindergartener first grade where

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<v Speaker 10>the teacher says, tell me how to make a peanut

1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:26.240
<v Speaker 10>butter and jelly sandwich. And you say, well, you get

1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:28.000
<v Speaker 10>some bread, and you get some peanut butter, and you

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<v Speaker 10>get some jelly, and you put the peanut butter on

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<v Speaker 10>the bread. And then the teacher goes, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 10>no no. You have to unscrew the jar of peanut

1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:36.640
<v Speaker 10>butter first, and then you have to dip the knife

1:06:36.680 --> 1:06:37.920
<v Speaker 10>in the peanut butter, and then you have to put

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<v Speaker 10>the peanut butter on the bread. Nick Saban would get

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<v Speaker 10>that right. He wouldn't skip a step. The rest of

1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:45.840
<v Speaker 10>us would skip a step, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's Andy Staples, you know from SI dot com,

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<v Speaker 4>longtime friend of the show. He's like one of the

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<v Speaker 4>first people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were. We were coworkers, colleagues with Andy Staples

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<v Speaker 3>way back when at SI dot com when I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing video and you were writing, shout out to Jimmy trainer,

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to Maggie Gray, shout out to everybody you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Such a great bit there by him. Where you both

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<v Speaker 4>of you guys? Really when you talk about is Nick

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<v Speaker 4>Saban happy? Is he happy with this? And it's it

1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:17.560
<v Speaker 4>comes up from time to time. It's a real question. Yeah,

1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:19.520
<v Speaker 4>you just don't know what makes him tick. I don't

1:07:19.600 --> 1:07:24.480
<v Speaker 4>think he has the same motivating factors as ninety nine

1:07:24.480 --> 1:07:26.320
<v Speaker 4>percent of the other people out there, and he acknowledged

1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:28.000
<v Speaker 4>as much. He's just a different kind of cat.

1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:30.080
<v Speaker 3>He has a different cat. And I would like to

1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:34.240
<v Speaker 3>quote the great and immortal Miley Cyrus. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the results, it's the climb.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about the climb, absolutely all right. Well, the

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<v Speaker 4>other coaching element in this game is Daboswinny. Yeah, an

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<v Speaker 4>incredible story. Totally different kind of cat, yeah from Nick Saban,

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<v Speaker 4>much more excitable, just different in so many different ways.

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<v Speaker 4>We could do eight different podcasts talking about it. We

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<v Speaker 4>had the good fortune of stumbling across our good friendship Patterson.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh incredibly sports mister acc. We've had him on this

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<v Speaker 4>program countless time to talk about all things ACC football,

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<v Speaker 4>Who better to talk about Dabo Swiney than Ship Patterson.

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<v Speaker 4>So we asked him a couple of things about Dabo.

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<v Speaker 4>First and foremost, what did he learn from a year

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<v Speaker 4>ago in that heartbreaking five point loss.

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<v Speaker 11>I think that with each of the big non conference wins,

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<v Speaker 11>which include two against Oklahoma, which go all the way

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<v Speaker 11>back to that tight, tight LSU game the Ohio State

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<v Speaker 11>in the Orange Bowl a few years back, I think

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<v Speaker 11>that was like a forty to thirty five game, another

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<v Speaker 11>very tight game. I think that he understands that the

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<v Speaker 11>building has to take these cons like there's got to

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<v Speaker 11>be some confidence to it. Like in twenty eleven, here

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<v Speaker 11>we go. Twenty eleven, Clemson beat Virginia Tech. It was

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<v Speaker 11>their first ACC championship in thirty years, and Dabo Sweeney

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<v Speaker 11>told us he was like listen, man, like we're not

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<v Speaker 11>just gonna rock it up. We are building something to last.

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<v Speaker 11>And that was in twenty eleven. Then they got stalled

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<v Speaker 11>by Daniel Holgerson in West Virginia. They hung seventy on him,

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<v Speaker 11>and there was something in that experience where every single

1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:10.160
<v Speaker 11>time that Clemson has come back and had another big

1:09:10.680 --> 1:09:14.080
<v Speaker 11>time game against a power conference opponent, there's been a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit of an extra confidence and a little bit

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<v Speaker 11>of extra experience.

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<v Speaker 4>No longer going up against Alabama.

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<v Speaker 11>Are they a team that is continuing to build up

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<v Speaker 11>that resume of experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he's got it down to a format.

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<v Speaker 11>He knows what it takes to coach fifteen games, how

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<v Speaker 11>to work these guys up, how to revt down. And

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<v Speaker 11>I might even say that that contributes to how comfortable

1:09:37.320 --> 1:09:41.679
<v Speaker 11>these Clemson players were in their own skin while everybody

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<v Speaker 11>else earlier this season was freaking out that they weren't

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<v Speaker 11>as good as Big old Air quotes here for the podcast,

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<v Speaker 11>but they weren't as good as last year's seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you look at this matchup again from a

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<v Speaker 4>coaching perspective, it seems to be widely assumed that Nick

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<v Speaker 4>Saban is the one with some kind advantage. He is

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<v Speaker 4>the one where does Dabo have an advantage?

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<v Speaker 11>Dabo's advantage probably lies in the unknown, in the fact

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<v Speaker 11>that the book on him is still being written, and

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<v Speaker 11>it's not much of an advantage, you know, Like I

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<v Speaker 11>think Clemson's advantage in this game is the fact that

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<v Speaker 11>they have a phenomenal defensive line and a game plan

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<v Speaker 11>from the LSU game that they can apply, and I

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<v Speaker 11>think Dabosweeney and his staff are smart enough to look

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<v Speaker 11>for advantages and exploit them.

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<v Speaker 4>But like Sheer coaching advantages.

1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:41.360
<v Speaker 11>Like Dabosweeney is he has gone up against Alabama on

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<v Speaker 11>the recruiting trail and been able to, you know, give

1:10:45.160 --> 1:10:47.519
<v Speaker 11>Clemson a fight here. He has been able to go

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<v Speaker 11>out and make Clemson a recognized brand. He has been

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<v Speaker 11>able to be the salesman that Clemson needed him to be.

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<v Speaker 11>But he doesn't have a coaching advantage against Nick Saban.

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<v Speaker 4>But there is some value, as he said, to being

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<v Speaker 4>the crazy guy in the fight, no doubt, being the

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<v Speaker 4>Carrie Sheffield out to not have a book on you

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<v Speaker 4>is something that you can use.

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<v Speaker 11>I think that uh, you know what he learned from

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<v Speaker 11>last year. He's gonna be looking for that onside kick.

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<v Speaker 11>They're not going to leave that thing wide open again,

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<v Speaker 11>because that's like we're reviewing the tape. Alabama had it

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<v Speaker 11>three times, two times before they finally hit it on

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<v Speaker 11>the third. I guarantee you Clemson will not have that

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<v Speaker 11>spot of the field open again on.

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<v Speaker 4>Kickoffs, all right again. His name Chip Patterson cbssports dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>The layers just keep coming to like that all the

1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:33.960
<v Speaker 4>time here, stacking them on top of each other. We

1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:37.640
<v Speaker 4>are nearing the final stretch where yes, we add up

1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:40.040
<v Speaker 4>all the data here. Yeah, I mean if you crack

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<v Speaker 4>out the slide rule and make our selections.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we've almost jammed backed. Too much information

1:11:45.360 --> 1:11:50.519
<v Speaker 3>and too much relevant football. Nugget try Okay that nugget Tree, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>nugget Tree. I think it's time to take a half

1:11:52.960 --> 1:11:55.840
<v Speaker 3>step back and sort of really honor what this show

1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:58.479
<v Speaker 3>is all about in the first place, and that is

1:11:58.760 --> 1:12:04.880
<v Speaker 3>total mindlessness, mindlessness, fried food, and Florida recommendation. So the

1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Tampa in tangible factor, the Tampa is very important that

1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:08.519
<v Speaker 3>people here.

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<v Speaker 4>An audio or what is the audio an I actually

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<v Speaker 4>know this. They're not talking about the Tampa and Tangibles.

1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.400
<v Speaker 3>No, they're not, absolutely not. They're talking too much football.

1:12:16.760 --> 1:12:21.200
<v Speaker 3>So we have Ryan Anny of Estipination to to sort

1:12:21.200 --> 1:12:24.000
<v Speaker 3>of pull back the camera a little bit and talk

1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:26.080
<v Speaker 3>about the game as a TV show, just what he

1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:28.720
<v Speaker 3>wants to see it from a peer entertainment spectacle. And

1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:31.160
<v Speaker 3>then his I mean, Tampa's first son, what to do

1:12:31.280 --> 1:12:33.400
<v Speaker 3>if you're coming into town, what to do for this game?

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<v Speaker 12>So I think I'm looking forward to the game going

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<v Speaker 12>long because the it always goes long, and people are

1:12:41.120 --> 1:12:42.720
<v Speaker 12>going to be unhappy about it. I guess you're gonna

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<v Speaker 12>be like.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, why don't we always do this on a Monday?

1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:49.880
<v Speaker 12>Gotta take the kids to school, Jesus, stupid Clinton. Now,

1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:53.000
<v Speaker 12>long games are usually good games, but there's always some

1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:56.000
<v Speaker 12>people and I'm not I'm not necessarily criticizing them for that,

1:12:56.120 --> 1:12:58.519
<v Speaker 12>but they're just like, Oh, you gotta be kidding, you

1:12:58.680 --> 1:12:59.280
<v Speaker 12>gotta be what.

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<v Speaker 4>No, run the ball, Just take a knee.

1:13:02.400 --> 1:13:04.120
<v Speaker 12>I don't care that it's tied on.

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<v Speaker 3>The Alabama side. What would make you laugh the most

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<v Speaker 3>if you were to see blank happen from Alabama either

1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:16.000
<v Speaker 3>with the ball defensively outcome of this game sark related.

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<v Speaker 12>I think the funniest thing that could happen on Alabama

1:13:19.040 --> 1:13:23.360
<v Speaker 12>side of the ball is if they unveiled this just

1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:26.519
<v Speaker 12>deadly passing attack. If you're like, wow, Jalen hurts through

1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:29.640
<v Speaker 12>four three hundred and eighty yards, completed eighty percent of

1:13:29.680 --> 1:13:32.600
<v Speaker 12>his passes. Clearly, Lane Kiffen had no idea what he

1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:33.840
<v Speaker 12>was doing with this kid.

1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:38.559
<v Speaker 3>On Clemson side, anything specifically from Dabo, from Deshaun Watson

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<v Speaker 3>from ben Ben Bowlwaer, we're on the record right now,

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<v Speaker 3>right four fingers deep is an actual life talk.

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<v Speaker 12>So we talked about this on Shutdown Full Cast. Yeah,

1:13:48.920 --> 1:13:51.360
<v Speaker 12>four fingers is not a measure of depth. It's a

1:13:51.439 --> 1:13:54.280
<v Speaker 12>measure of width. You know, all your fingers are mostly

1:13:54.400 --> 1:13:57.200
<v Speaker 12>the same length. So what you're gonna want to watch

1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:01.439
<v Speaker 12>for entertainment value from Clemson is Rabbo is obviously prone

1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:07.200
<v Speaker 12>to weird postgame or halftime interviews when he's agitated in

1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:11.920
<v Speaker 12>some way. And I really I think winning the national

1:14:12.040 --> 1:14:17.400
<v Speaker 12>championship would take Dabo to an emotional place that I

1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:21.240
<v Speaker 12>don't think any of us can contemplate. I think he

1:14:21.280 --> 1:14:23.560
<v Speaker 12>would cry, but I think more importantly, he will just

1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:26.400
<v Speaker 12>start speaking in gibberish and then like a week later,

1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:29.759
<v Speaker 12>we'll realize that if you play it backwards, it actually

1:14:29.840 --> 1:14:32.040
<v Speaker 12>made perfect sense in English, but only if you play

1:14:32.080 --> 1:14:32.760
<v Speaker 12>it backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>What should people know about Tampa, Florida? What should they

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<v Speaker 3>do in Tampa? And what defines the city of Tampa.

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<v Speaker 12>Here are the important facts you need to know. Yes,

1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:44.679
<v Speaker 12>Tampa has a bunch of strip clubs. B These strip

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<v Speaker 12>clubs are not like kept off in some Oh. This

1:14:48.160 --> 1:14:50.440
<v Speaker 12>is the CD part of No, they're on an industrial

1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:53.439
<v Speaker 12>they're on a main thoroughfare. When Tampa got its first

1:14:53.479 --> 1:14:58.519
<v Speaker 12>Whole Foods, it's walking distance to these strip clubs. Third,

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<v Speaker 12>the man who started the most prominent strip clubs is

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<v Speaker 12>a man named Joe Redner. Okay, he has run for

1:15:06.600 --> 1:15:08.840
<v Speaker 12>mayor city council. He's run for a bunch of things

1:15:08.880 --> 1:15:12.200
<v Speaker 12>in Tampa. Never one has never won. But I believe

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<v Speaker 12>his son is co owner of a micro brewery in

1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:19.559
<v Speaker 12>Tampa called Cigar City, which makes really excellent beer.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you can drink.

1:15:22.520 --> 1:15:25.040
<v Speaker 12>You can go there and say you've drink strip club

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<v Speaker 12>air beer, strip club air HgI R.

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<v Speaker 4>Not ai R.

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<v Speaker 12>That's an important anymore. But the airport's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Airport's fantastic. Have they recently redone it their FI?

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<v Speaker 12>No, it's always it's I mean, they have done improvements

1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:40.560
<v Speaker 12>to it over the last five years or so, but

1:15:41.040 --> 1:15:43.840
<v Speaker 12>it's always been a really solid airport. And of course

1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:49.560
<v Speaker 12>Tampa is home to Outback Steakhouse, the Australian themed restaurant

1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:52.760
<v Speaker 12>founded by people who had never been to Australia.

1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:54.000
<v Speaker 3>After seeing Crocodile Dundee.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently, I think that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 12>I think they thought that they could capitalize on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ossi field at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, fair enough. And by the way, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if this is if this is something you want

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<v Speaker 3>to publish, is okay, let me use the stage as

1:16:10.800 --> 1:16:13.240
<v Speaker 3>we conclude and move on with the show to say,

1:16:13.800 --> 1:16:16.759
<v Speaker 3>anybody from the Outback Bowl or anybody who just feels

1:16:16.800 --> 1:16:20.000
<v Speaker 3>like tweeting at the Outback Bowl, we are desperate to

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<v Speaker 3>make Ryan Bloomy the bloomin Onion for the twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>out Back Bowl and whatever responsibilities that that may entail.

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<v Speaker 12>I think the hashtag we're still talking about it. The

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<v Speaker 12>one I like best so far is fran Nanny. Fryan

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<v Speaker 12>Nanny's good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of a winner to make.

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<v Speaker 12>Have you ever eaten a blumin onion?

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<v Speaker 2>I have?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I used to this is this is

1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:40.599
<v Speaker 3>the most disgusting thing. I guarante this is the most

1:16:40.640 --> 1:16:42.639
<v Speaker 3>disgusting thing you'll hear about food today.

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<v Speaker 1>In college.

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<v Speaker 3>This was in Eugene, Organ maybe.

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<v Speaker 12>Springfield or like a first year move first or second.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think, but it was all throughout. Okay, I

1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:54.400
<v Speaker 3>don't remember like the terminology that we called it, but

1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:57.560
<v Speaker 3>in Springfield, Organ, which is sort of like Eugene but

1:16:57.680 --> 1:17:01.120
<v Speaker 3>for shady people. Next to do Or we would go

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<v Speaker 3>to outback steakhouse and Jack in the Box and I

1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:08.280
<v Speaker 3>would get like six like disgusting grease envelopes that they

1:17:08.360 --> 1:17:10.160
<v Speaker 3>call tacos, a jack in the box and split a

1:17:10.200 --> 1:17:15.040
<v Speaker 3>bloomin onion and just annihilate my insights. Wow, this is

1:17:15.240 --> 1:17:18.080
<v Speaker 3>totally unrelated. Though I was a larger person in college.

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<v Speaker 3>I wow, Yeah, it's real bad. I do like the

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<v Speaker 3>bloomin onion, though I haven't had in a long time.

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<v Speaker 10>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>One was the last time you had a bloomin onion?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>It's not something. Once you hit a certain age, you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 12>I can't Well, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Also can't do anything after what you have a bloomin onion?

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<v Speaker 3>Play a couple. No, you're done.

1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:39.320
<v Speaker 12>That one's accepted. If it will you know what if

1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.960
<v Speaker 12>I have to eat a bloomin onion and play play

1:17:42.040 --> 1:17:44.840
<v Speaker 12>two set pro SATs, right, play two pro sets and

1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:46.760
<v Speaker 12>that'll get me bloomy, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you will, all right?

1:17:48.960 --> 1:17:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Ryan Anny first Son, Yeah, of the Tampa Saint Pete

1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:53.439
<v Speaker 4>metro area.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He supposedly has a uh a picture or a name

1:17:58.320 --> 1:18:00.680
<v Speaker 3>on a debate trophy at his high school. So if

1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:03.000
<v Speaker 3>you can piece together where he went to high school,

1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:03.639
<v Speaker 3>go check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that does it for the layers. It does

1:18:07.439 --> 1:18:09.920
<v Speaker 4>so many layers here. Do you have enough information now

1:18:09.960 --> 1:18:11.599
<v Speaker 4>at hand to make.

1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Because I need to hear from you the most need

1:18:13.280 --> 1:18:13.760
<v Speaker 3>to hear from me.

1:18:13.920 --> 1:18:15.320
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna let me influence your.

1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.479
<v Speaker 3>Pick, Absolutely, I am, because you have figured out, you've

1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:23.880
<v Speaker 3>tapped into a winning formula this year of deep dive research,

1:18:24.439 --> 1:18:28.639
<v Speaker 3>figure out how everything sort of dances with your gut

1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:31.160
<v Speaker 3>and then you just go the other way. Yeah, and

1:18:31.200 --> 1:18:33.160
<v Speaker 3>that's been a pretty successful formula for you this.

1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:35.600
<v Speaker 4>Year through bull season. I didn't quite adhere to that

1:18:35.960 --> 1:18:37.719
<v Speaker 4>the same way I did during the regular season.

1:18:37.840 --> 1:18:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Bull season is a different animal. But this is a

1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:42.720
<v Speaker 3>game with huge stakes, not unlike regular season games that

1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:45.160
<v Speaker 3>week to week there are stakes, and this is a

1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:46.920
<v Speaker 3>game that much in the way you've done with the

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<v Speaker 3>bigger games in the regular season, You've researched, you've thought

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<v Speaker 3>about you, You've weighed different factors in your head that

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<v Speaker 3>are important to you. I've done the same, and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>am I the surest thing in college football picking.

1:18:57.520 --> 1:18:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Of course, one hundred percent of the time, right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right or wrong one hundred percent of the time.

1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:07.240
<v Speaker 3>That's mathematics people. But no, that's that's what I'm waiting for.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting for your thoughts, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So, well, I have a couple. I have a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of things that I'm chewing on.

1:19:12.800 --> 1:19:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The first is, I'm not sure I know what this

1:19:17.040 --> 1:19:21.599
<v Speaker 4>offensive game plan looks like for Steve Sarkisian Now, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>with Alabama. You heard Ryan allude to it a little

1:19:25.400 --> 1:19:28.479
<v Speaker 4>bit in his bit, But he thinks sark is more

1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:32.160
<v Speaker 4>devoted to what works and less devoted to his own ego,

1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:35.120
<v Speaker 4>doesn't care so much about looking like the smartest guy

1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:37.160
<v Speaker 4>in the room, just wants to trot plays out there

1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:39.320
<v Speaker 4>that he knows are going to work. I think in

1:19:39.400 --> 1:19:41.560
<v Speaker 4>the case of Alabama, we know what would work. We

1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:44.000
<v Speaker 4>know what works best for them. Anyway, what has throughout

1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:45.800
<v Speaker 4>the course of the season. That is the running game. Yep,

1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.559
<v Speaker 4>they want to run the football. I fear a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's his first game as offensive coordinator, that it

1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:54.400
<v Speaker 4>might be super conservative, that if there's a spot where

1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:57.200
<v Speaker 4>he needs to stretch the field vertically, maybe he will

1:19:57.240 --> 1:20:00.560
<v Speaker 4>be a little bit apprehensive about doing that. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>just something I've been chewing on all week. The other

1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:08.200
<v Speaker 4>thing that conservatism, in this early conservative conservatism, excuse me,

1:20:08.320 --> 1:20:11.120
<v Speaker 4>probably favors Clemson because Clemson I don't think is going

1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:14.160
<v Speaker 4>to have any conservatism at all. That's just not their style, right.

1:20:14.479 --> 1:20:17.400
<v Speaker 4>The other thing that's bouncing around for me is Deshaun Watson.

1:20:18.240 --> 1:20:20.960
<v Speaker 4>And you could cut this thing one hundred different ways

1:20:20.960 --> 1:20:24.080
<v Speaker 4>if you want to. But what we saw towards the

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<v Speaker 4>end of last season, what we've seen a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>though not to the same extent, but a little bit

1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:30.800
<v Speaker 4>again this season is that in the biggest spots to Sean,

1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:34.439
<v Speaker 4>Watson gets the ball more. Sometimes he throws more, more often,

1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:37.280
<v Speaker 4>he runs more. But pretty much one hundred percent of

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<v Speaker 4>the time, they're leaning on him heavily to try and

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<v Speaker 4>win this game. Last year, look at what he did

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<v Speaker 4>in the championship game. He ran it at least twenty

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<v Speaker 4>times in each of his final four games win the championship.

1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:50.680
<v Speaker 4>In particular, four hundred and seventy eight total yards, four touchdowns,

1:20:50.720 --> 1:20:54.360
<v Speaker 4>four or five passing. That's the most in National Championship history.

1:20:54.960 --> 1:20:57.479
<v Speaker 4>So I think what I'm getting at here is how

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<v Speaker 4>far can he take them as one singular man against

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<v Speaker 4>this incredible defense? How far can one guy take BA

1:21:03.720 --> 1:21:06.240
<v Speaker 4>or can one guy take Clemson. I have a hard

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<v Speaker 4>time believing he can take them all the way to

1:21:08.560 --> 1:21:12.080
<v Speaker 4>the Promised Land alone alone. He needs help, and he's

1:21:12.080 --> 1:21:15.080
<v Speaker 4>got the big receivers, and I think maybe they can

1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:18.519
<v Speaker 4>channel some you know, modest running game here and there

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<v Speaker 4>in spots, in situations, but as a whole, I don't

1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:24.519
<v Speaker 4>think there's enough balance. So for as much as I

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<v Speaker 4>want to see Clemson win, and for as much as

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<v Speaker 4>I'd like to see something different, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 4>Alabama to win this game. I'm going to say something

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<v Speaker 4>in the ballpark a twenty seven to twenty three, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seven to twenty four very similar but lower scoring, similar

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<v Speaker 4>but lower scoring? Is Bill Connolly mentioned earlier? I think

1:21:40.520 --> 1:21:43.760
<v Speaker 4>Alabama wins another national championship, But but I would not

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<v Speaker 4>be surprised if Clemson pulled up. You Hedger, Well, I

1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:49.559
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be surprised. I think Clemson covers, but Alabama wins.

1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.479
<v Speaker 3>Okay, My question to you as a follow up is

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<v Speaker 3>what is it about Jalen Hurts specifically? And it may

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<v Speaker 3>may be a matter of the fact that the combination

1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:05.759
<v Speaker 3>of Alabama's defense, I believe leading the nation in touchdowns defense,

1:22:06.040 --> 1:22:09.920
<v Speaker 3>in touchdowns scoring defenses, going against a Clemson offense that

1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:12.160
<v Speaker 3>has been a little bit too careless this year, has

1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:14.240
<v Speaker 3>turned the ball over more than we expected. That's not

1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:19.120
<v Speaker 3>a great hat to hat combination. What is it about

1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:24.000
<v Speaker 3>if there isn't Alabama defensive touchdowns? About Jalen Hurts that

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like against this Clemson defense, coming off of

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<v Speaker 3>a shoutout, coming off of some very impressive defensive performances,

1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:31.200
<v Speaker 3>it makes you feel like he can lead to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven points against a very good defense.

1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I feel like he's got.

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<v Speaker 3>After struggling with Washington too. I should mention through the.

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<v Speaker 4>Air after struggling, and he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:22:39.439 --> 1:22:42.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's another factor that we could certainly consider.

1:22:43.240 --> 1:22:47.200
<v Speaker 4>I have more confidence in the pieces that he has

1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:51.640
<v Speaker 4>alongside him in the rushing game. I think, then I

1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:56.760
<v Speaker 4>do the pieces alongside the Shaw Watson. So as we've seen,

1:22:56.800 --> 1:22:59.000
<v Speaker 4>the formula at Alabama is you don't always need to

1:22:59.080 --> 1:23:02.200
<v Speaker 4>have a premier quarterback to win, right. You need to

1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:04.320
<v Speaker 4>have good pieces around that quarterback, but you don't need

1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:05.880
<v Speaker 4>to have a guy who does a whole lot. You

1:23:05.920 --> 1:23:07.639
<v Speaker 4>just need to find somebody doesn't turn the ball over.

1:23:08.479 --> 1:23:11.360
<v Speaker 4>Kurtz gives them an extra dimension with his legs. I

1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:13.560
<v Speaker 4>think that combined with the fact that he's got some

1:23:13.680 --> 1:23:16.759
<v Speaker 4>really good pieces in the running game, too, reliable pieces

1:23:17.120 --> 1:23:20.599
<v Speaker 4>Damien Harris Boscarborough. We saw what he did. I feel

1:23:20.680 --> 1:23:25.240
<v Speaker 4>really good about some combination of those guys against anybody,

1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:26.040
<v Speaker 4>let alone Clemson.

1:23:26.160 --> 1:23:31.080
<v Speaker 3>If Clemson is forcing third and sevens consistently, how much

1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:34.040
<v Speaker 3>more worried are you about your Alabama pick consistently? Yeah,

1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:36.400
<v Speaker 3>if they're consistently like, okay, it's third and seven, like

1:23:36.439 --> 1:23:39.559
<v Speaker 3>if they're forcing passing downs over and over and over again.

1:23:40.040 --> 1:23:42.479
<v Speaker 3>And one of the differences, Jake Koker threw the ball

1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:44.640
<v Speaker 3>down field really well last year in big games. That

1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Michigan State game, he had a huge Sorry, he had

1:23:47.400 --> 1:23:50.599
<v Speaker 3>multiple huge bombs, notably to Calvin Ridley. But Ardarius Stewart

1:23:50.640 --> 1:23:53.599
<v Speaker 3>is still there. If Clemson, I'm not going to say

1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:56.040
<v Speaker 3>if they make them one dimensional, but if Clemson is

1:23:56.120 --> 1:24:02.400
<v Speaker 3>able to force some single dimensional activity from Alabama, is

1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:04.479
<v Speaker 3>it does it become a toss up sort of situation too.

1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:07.840
<v Speaker 4>Let's put it this way. Alabama averaged five point seven

1:24:07.880 --> 1:24:10.200
<v Speaker 4>yards per carry this year, Yes, all right, if they

1:24:10.240 --> 1:24:13.920
<v Speaker 4>are continually finding themselves in third and long situations, yeah,

1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:15.839
<v Speaker 4>that's bad. Yeah, that's not a good situation.

1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:18.639
<v Speaker 3>So put up five yards per carry, not against exter

1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Lawrence and Christian Wilkins.

1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:24.880
<v Speaker 4>That is correct. Yes, However, for the entirety of their season,

1:24:25.960 --> 1:24:28.960
<v Speaker 4>being that consistent in the rushing game has absolutely made

1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:29.519
<v Speaker 4>them what they are.

1:24:29.800 --> 1:24:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:32.320
<v Speaker 4>So if in fact, Clemson could find a way to

1:24:32.400 --> 1:24:35.000
<v Speaker 4>put a cap on that, maybe make it four yards carry,

1:24:35.040 --> 1:24:37.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, you know, get some tackles for loss.

1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:41.360
<v Speaker 4>If they're doing that reliably consistently, that changes this game

1:24:41.560 --> 1:24:43.599
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden. Then I think that tips things

1:24:44.000 --> 1:24:46.720
<v Speaker 4>in favor perhaps of Deshaun Watson. What can he do

1:24:47.520 --> 1:24:49.600
<v Speaker 4>with the pieces around him? How much can he run for?

1:24:50.479 --> 1:24:52.840
<v Speaker 4>If we see that situation develop time and time again,

1:24:52.880 --> 1:24:56.040
<v Speaker 4>then yeah, yeah, that's the situation I think that Alabama's

1:24:56.080 --> 1:24:56.439
<v Speaker 4>afraid of.

1:24:56.800 --> 1:24:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to fairelessly pick Clemson. I'm gonna tell you why.

1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I am not going to hedge. Of course, none of

1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:05.840
<v Speaker 3>us would be surprised if Alabama wins this game. But

1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I am saying Clemson wins this game period, without a

1:25:09.520 --> 1:25:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised if Clemson and I think it's

1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:16.360
<v Speaker 3>a pretty equal game. Clemson has the sort of advantage

1:25:16.360 --> 1:25:17.599
<v Speaker 3>of their coming off of a year in which they

1:25:17.640 --> 1:25:19.320
<v Speaker 3>know they cannot just hang with Alabama, but they can

1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:22.120
<v Speaker 3>beat Alabama. They're not losing this game, like Andy Staples

1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:24.479
<v Speaker 3>said before they even play, which is the case with

1:25:24.560 --> 1:25:27.759
<v Speaker 3>a lot of Alabama opponents. You have a true freshman quarterback.

1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:30.680
<v Speaker 3>We've seen first year quarterbacks succeed in the National Championship Game.

1:25:30.800 --> 1:25:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Nick Marshall had a pretty nice game against Florida State,

1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Cam Newton won, Jameis Winston. These were red shid freshmen.

1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurts true freshman, although he's been there since January

1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:41.160
<v Speaker 3>and played Deshaun Watson as a scout teamer this past

1:25:41.240 --> 1:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>January year ago. But I think because things seem to

1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:47.280
<v Speaker 3>me to be so equal, I think Alabama's big advantages.

1:25:47.320 --> 1:25:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I think they have a much better secondary than Clemson's secondary.

1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I think without Mackenzie Alexander, they don't have that true

1:25:52.439 --> 1:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>lockdown guy. But I also don't think Jalen Hurts is

1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:59.559
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback that can expose really good secondaries. It's not elite,

1:26:00.000 --> 1:26:02.240
<v Speaker 3>whatever that word has come to me in twenty seventeen.

1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.200
<v Speaker 3>But if you are going to give me a relatively

1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:07.200
<v Speaker 3>neutral field, I expect it to be about fifty to

1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:09.760
<v Speaker 3>fifty because I mean, we're not far from Clemson, We're

1:26:09.800 --> 1:26:12.040
<v Speaker 3>not far from Alabama. It's going to it's it's not

1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:14.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be a decided crowd. You're gonna give me.

1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:17.439
<v Speaker 3>And Alabama does have a running back and a running

1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:20.719
<v Speaker 3>game advantage, and that's big. But I think Deshaun Watson

1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>is a true star and is a true game changer

1:26:25.400 --> 1:26:27.519
<v Speaker 3>in a way that Alabama. I don't think that they have.

1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I just they have it on defense. I don't think

1:26:30.080 --> 1:26:32.519
<v Speaker 3>offensively they have somebody who can take over a game.

1:26:32.840 --> 1:26:37.639
<v Speaker 4>So the counter question, yeah, counterpoint, what have you? Let's

1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:42.280
<v Speaker 4>say hypothetically that the true teeth of this Alabama defense,

1:26:42.320 --> 1:26:46.320
<v Speaker 4>it's a linebacking corps, is able to confuse Sure, Deshaun Watson.

1:26:46.560 --> 1:26:49.639
<v Speaker 4>We've seen it countless times this year. Deshaun Watson doesn't

1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:53.080
<v Speaker 4>see a linebacker, doesn't see somebody lurking in a short

1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:56.439
<v Speaker 4>zone coverage, something like that and frozen interception. Let's say

1:26:56.760 --> 1:26:59.960
<v Speaker 4>through half of this game, Deshaun Watson's having a hard time.

1:27:00.000 --> 1:27:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm dissecting that portion of the Alabama defense. The passing

1:27:04.479 --> 1:27:07.599
<v Speaker 4>game isn't coming as naturally sure a rhythm three hundred

1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:10.880
<v Speaker 4>and twenty eight yards per game, seventh nationally in terms

1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:12.759
<v Speaker 4>of passing offense. Let's say it's.

1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Nowhere near that reasonable to guess, Yeah, he Clemson still

1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:19.840
<v Speaker 3>win the game. Yes, because I don't think he's going

1:27:19.920 --> 1:27:22.240
<v Speaker 3>to go into a shell. We're talking about somebody who

1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:24.519
<v Speaker 3>is I think we're pretty sure as a first round

1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:27.479
<v Speaker 3>NFL quarterback, and not in a Jared goffway, in a

1:27:28.080 --> 1:27:31.679
<v Speaker 3>we've seen him beat really good teams really recently kind

1:27:31.720 --> 1:27:35.519
<v Speaker 3>of way. I think we're positive of his talent. We've

1:27:35.560 --> 1:27:38.200
<v Speaker 3>seen him have. I think it's pretty clearly the best

1:27:38.240 --> 1:27:40.080
<v Speaker 3>and biggest game of his career on the best and

1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:42.800
<v Speaker 3>biggest stage. So I don't think if he throws a

1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>pick early he is going to become tentative. He throws

1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:48.519
<v Speaker 3>a ball downfield, he throwed like even the interception, it

1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:51.960
<v Speaker 3>took an out of this world Malik Hooker play to

1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:53.479
<v Speaker 3>pick him off in the end zone. That's what it

1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:55.679
<v Speaker 3>takes at times when he is when he is operating,

1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to be creative. You know, we

1:27:57.760 --> 1:27:59.519
<v Speaker 3>talked to Chris Brown about the sort of wrinkles that

1:27:59.520 --> 1:28:01.680
<v Speaker 3>they've added to the run game that what is it

1:28:01.800 --> 1:28:05.639
<v Speaker 3>that the toss read? So I think Clemson is constantly evolving.

1:28:05.840 --> 1:28:07.760
<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be a great cat mouse game.

1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I love the Alabama defense, but on a stage like this,

1:28:12.880 --> 1:28:14.720
<v Speaker 3>what did they What did Alabama need last year? They

1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:18.960
<v Speaker 3>needed a herculean effort from Oj Howard after Clemson was

1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:22.000
<v Speaker 3>beat up. That, I mean, that's a reality. Clemson defense

1:28:22.040 --> 1:28:23.640
<v Speaker 3>doesn't rush the past or maybe as well as they

1:28:23.680 --> 1:28:27.519
<v Speaker 3>did last year. But to me, it's hard for me

1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:31.840
<v Speaker 3>to find to pick. Like, Okay, Alabama is going to

1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:35.160
<v Speaker 3>get a crazy game from Calvin Ridley or Darius Stewart

1:28:35.160 --> 1:28:38.559
<v Speaker 3>bo Scarboro maybe, but I'm more sure of Deshaun Watson

1:28:38.600 --> 1:28:41.040
<v Speaker 3>than any one of those players breaking out. So I'm

1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:43.719
<v Speaker 3>going with Clemson. I have it twenty eight twenty seven

1:28:43.760 --> 1:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>in my head. Twenty eight twenty seven, nail bier. And

1:28:46.200 --> 1:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>you ready, if we're gonna get very specific Alabama wide

1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:53.280
<v Speaker 3>rights in the closing seconds, how about.

1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:55.559
<v Speaker 4>That wide right closing seconds?

1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:57.799
<v Speaker 3>Because okay, so what would be I wouldn't be unforeseen,

1:28:57.920 --> 1:29:00.639
<v Speaker 3>would not be unforeseend what would be the most prizing

1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:02.840
<v Speaker 3>outcome Clemson big ten to seven.

1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:05.559
<v Speaker 4>What Clemson big would be would be surprising.

1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be nobody comfortably beats Alabama.

1:29:08.520 --> 1:29:10.519
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I mean it's it's always by the hair

1:29:11.160 --> 1:29:12.080
<v Speaker 4>on your chin, right, it's not.

1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>You could argue Ohio State sort of did a couple

1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:14.599
<v Speaker 3>of years ago.

1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Zeke, Yeah, that was that would be. That would be

1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:20.840
<v Speaker 4>a surprise, I think, in the same way, probably a

1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:23.600
<v Speaker 4>much bigger way than what we saw in the semifinal

1:29:23.720 --> 1:29:25.680
<v Speaker 4>with cumps and shutting out Ohio State because that was

1:29:25.720 --> 1:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>a bit unexpected.

1:29:26.479 --> 1:29:29.040
<v Speaker 3>To I think to me, a bigger surprise would be

1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Clemson winning this game with Deshaun Watson not having a

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<v Speaker 3>great game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like Wayne Goleman rips off like free hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Yards, Wayne Goleman going for two oh eight and the

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<v Speaker 3>defense scoring two touchdowns, slipping the field. Something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like Clemson winning sixteen to thirteen with a pedestrian offensive

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<v Speaker 3>effort would be kind of a shocker to make.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, So you're all in on Clemson twenty yearly

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<v Speaker 4>seven time, fearlessly. Okay, I'm gonna go Alabama. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the boring old man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty seven, twenty four is my finally very.

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<v Speaker 3>Exciting when people pick Alabama and Alabama wins, that's always the.

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<v Speaker 4>Best we do have. Yeah, thank you. We do have

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<v Speaker 4>a consensus though we're both like Clemson plus.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, we're gonna gobble those points up.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, we do thank everybody who chimed in,

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<v Speaker 4>from Bill Connolly to Bud Elliott, Chris Brown, Richard Johnson

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<v Speaker 4>still seated at the table here.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>We've also had Ryan Abraham on this show, Andy Staples,

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<v Speaker 4>Chip Patterson, and of course our good friend the first

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