1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: It's very complicated. There'll be some swapping of territories. 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: It's not clear which territories would be swapped. Russia currently 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: occupies twenty percent of Ukraine, and Ukraine only controls about 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: thirty square miles of Russia. Wow, after it launched an 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: offensive last year. Some Europeans think this summit is heading 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: towards Munich like appeasement before World War Two. Former CIA 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: station chief in Moscow, Dan Hoffman says Russia's goal remains unchanged. 11 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: Putin wants to be able to re arm and potentially 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: attack again down the road in the future, because what 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: Putin wants is to destroy Ukraine and install a puppet 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: regime in Kiev. 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 5: I didn't realize it was that little Ukraine has thirty 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 5: insignificant square miles of Russia. Yeah, here's the entire quote 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 5: from Trump over the weekend about the possible peace deal 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 5: they're going to put together. When Trump and Boot and 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 5: Meat this Friday in Alaska. 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: Well, you're looking at territory that's been fought over for 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: three and a half years with you know, a lot 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: of Russians have died, a lot of Ukrainians have died. 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: So we're looking at that. 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: But we're actually looking to get some back and some swapping. 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: It's complicated, it's actually nothing easy. 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: It's very complicated. 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: But we're going to get some back, We're going to 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: get some some switched. There'll be some swapping of territories 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: to the betterment of both. And but we'll be talking 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: about that either later. 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Or tomorrow or whatever. 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: He's being vague, and I hope he's being vague to 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 5: try to not throw out the really difficult stuff right 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 5: there in that sound bite. But the fact that he's 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: only mentioning land, there's no win in Ukraine. Well, let's 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: hear from Zelensky first and then we can discuss this. 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I suppose. 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 6: Of course, our team is working with the United States. 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 6: Not a single day goes by without communication on how 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 6: to ensure real peace. We understand Russia's intention to deceive America. 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: We will not allow this. 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 6: I greatly value the determination with which President Trump is 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 6: committed to bring an end to the killings in this war. 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it seems Zelensky's eyes are open. Yeah. 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 7: The one thing that troubled me about what Trump said 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 7: was he kept phrasing it that we're looking at swapping 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 7: this land for this land, and we're looking at blah 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 7: blah blah, and the Ukrainians are not in on that 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 7: deal Northern Europeans at this point, which we'll get into 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 7: in a second, but it sounds less like a broke 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 7: er helping to reach two parties find an agreement then 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 7: a guy just finding an agreement on his own well. 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: And nobody knows where he really is. On Putin, if he's. 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: Actually woken up to what a scumbag, murderous, lying, evil, villain, 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 5: devil person Putin is, if. 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: He always us, if he always. 57 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: If he always knew that and was pretending, or if 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 5: he's just woken up to it, or if he hasn't completely. 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 5: But in that statement there he said a lot of 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: people have died, a lot of Russians, a lot of Ukraines. See, 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: the problem is one of the brokers does not care. 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: Putin does not care at all how many of his 63 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: own people die. It makes no difference. It's not part 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 5: of the calculation. So you say that is meaningless. 65 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 7: So, the European powers in the Ukraine responded to vlad 67 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 7: Putin's ceasefire plan with a counter proposal that they are 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 7: making clear Trump must serve as a framework so that 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 7: the coming talks can gain any traction. They rejected the 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 7: Russian proposal to trade Ukrainian held parts of the Dunetsk 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 7: region for a ceasefire. They put forth their plan the 72 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 7: meeting with tip US officials in England on Saturday. 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: JD. 74 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: Vance was out there running around talking everybody. 75 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 76 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 7: Interesting, Russia has not made steps toward peace despite its 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 7: talks with the US, say the Ukrainians. US officials said 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 7: the meetings on Saturday made progress toward Trump's goal of 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 7: ending the war in Ukraine. 80 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 5: I didn't see that. I must have missed that paragraph. 81 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 5: Because Russia is saying no NATO membership, Ukraine needs to disarm, 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: not have a military there. We get to keep all 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 5: the land and a couple other things. I mean, it's 84 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 5: a complete non starter as far as I can tell. 85 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 7: European leaders said in a joint statement after the meeting 86 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 7: that a diplomatic end of the war must protect Ukraine's 87 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 7: and Europe's security interests. So what it looks like to 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: me is you have a handful of proposals which have 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 7: practically no overlap and a very different verbiage coming out 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 7: of everybody involved. Yeah, Europe, how promising the whole thing is, 91 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 7: or whether there is any overlap. 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: Europe's proposal at least the last one I saw over 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: the weekend was absolutely NATO membership on the way for 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: Ukraine and European troops in Ukraine until then to make 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 5: sure Putin doesn't go back an again. I don't think 96 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 5: there's a chance Putin signs on to that, do you No, No, 97 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 5: I don't. I'm sorry. 98 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 7: I was deep in thought about one of one fear 99 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 7: I know we both share is that Trump is just 100 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 7: going to go for peace, no matter what it costs Ukraine, 101 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 7: whatever you can get Putin to agree to, which will 102 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 7: not bring any sort of lasting piece of Well, it 103 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 7: seems that. 104 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it seems that I don't know where Zelensky 105 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: is on this, but even Lindsey Graham yesterday on the 106 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 5: talk shows was saying, Ukraine's not gonna boot all the 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: Russians out. That's just not gonna happen. So they're going 108 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 5: to have to give a planned, maybe even all the 109 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: land that they lost. But I mean, I think I 110 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 5: would you agree to this? I think if I'm Zelensky, 111 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 5: as awful and unfair as it is, life's unfair, I 112 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 5: would give up the twenty percent of my country if 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: I get European troops in Ukraine and a path to 114 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: NATO membership, because that might be the best you can do. Yeah, 115 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 5: I would agree, that's pretty awful. It's damned awful. And 116 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: I might include some sort of we got to get 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: those kids back. There needs to be some sort of process. 118 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. 119 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 7: Well, but unless I am really really missing some aspect 120 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 7: of the way Putin is looking at this, he would never. 121 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Agree to that. 122 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: No, no, because that would be the end of his 123 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna restore the Soviet Union or be the next 124 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 5: Peter the Great or whatever. That'd be the end of it, 125 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: unless he's willing to go to fight NATO. 126 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 7: Well, it reminds me a great deal of the unfortunate 127 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 7: situation in Gaza with Hamas and Israel. People keep talking 128 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 7: about these peace talks. There's no overlap, or there is. 129 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 7: There are such incredibly important areas of non overlap, the 130 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 7: areas of overlap are irrelevant. 131 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: There's just this. 132 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 7: Giant, fundamental, like one hundred and eighty degree opposition on 133 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 7: certain questions. I don't see how it ends well. 134 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: So, like Lindsay Graham kept saying, look, two things are true. 135 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 5: Ukraine can't boot out every Russian and Putin's not going 136 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: to Kiev. And I thought that second one's not completely 137 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: off the table as far as I can tell. If 138 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: Putin decides, you know, I'm gonna keep fighting. I don't 139 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 5: care how many million soldiers I lose. China and India 140 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: are still gonna buy oil from me, and I'm just 141 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 5: gonna keep going. 142 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: And why wouldn't he. 143 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 7: I don't know what his reserve of young men is 144 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 7: looking like at this point. I mean, he might arouse 145 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 7: so much domestic you know, turmoil that that limits him. 146 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 7: But he's got a pretty good police state in uh right, 147 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 7: you know, in place right now. Yeah, I don't I 148 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 7: don't know, honestly. 149 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't think. 150 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: My guess would be he has no intention of stopping 151 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: prosecuting the war. He thinks at some point Ukraine will 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: break and he will go to Kiev, and this is 153 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 5: just an opportunity to you know, drag things out as 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: he always does to keep the sanctions off. Like I 155 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: said earlier, he's already drug out the sanctions. What another 156 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 5: week and he'll go to the meeting and the productive talks. 157 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: You know, we need to take a look at this. 158 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get together with my people. We're gonna have 159 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: a meeting. We've scheduled a meeting for September first, when 160 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: we'll sit down. 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If it 194 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 8: ends in a way it looks like that Putin's overly rewarded. 195 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: There goes Taiwan. 196 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 8: You can't end a war without talking. I do hope 197 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 8: that Zelenski can be part of the process. I'll leave 198 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 8: it up to the White House, but I come on 199 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 8: your show a good bit. I want to be honest 200 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 8: with you. Your train's not gonna evict of your Russia 201 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 8: Russian and Russia's not going to keep so there'll be 202 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 8: some land swaps at the end. 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 7: So here's the thought I wanted to add to your thought. 204 00:10:53,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 7: While Putin is stringing Trump along, he is aggressively, semi 205 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 7: frantically making deals with India and his big brother China 206 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 7: to assure countries that continue to buy oil and are 207 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 7: sanctioned by the United States high tariffs, et cetera, that 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 7: we will do A B and C to help you 209 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 7: out economically to soften the blow, and we'll keep the 210 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 7: cheap oil flowing into your economies. So you know, he's 211 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 7: not just idly or he's not merely stringing Trump along 212 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 7: to continue to make battlefield gains. So he can, you know, 213 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 7: work behind the scenes diplomatically to defang whatever the US 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 7: is hoping to implement. And by the way, it also 215 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 7: occurred to me, anytime we say Ukraine, we should say 216 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 7: Ukraine and Europe, because they seem to have a pretty 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 7: united front at this point. 218 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. 219 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: It is interesting watching the NATO General Secretary on all 220 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 5: the shows yesterday. 221 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: Well here's here. 222 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: Both both praising Trump and being very firm on we 223 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: ain't agreeing to what Russia proposed. 224 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have that audio. We could play it. 225 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 7: I was just going to say, the one thing you 226 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 7: and I have both been concerned about is that Trump 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 7: is going to look at the Ukrainians and say, all right, 228 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 7: nogotiations have gone on for a while, this is the 229 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 7: best deal you can get, going to get. I do 230 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 7: deals all the time. This is the best deal you 231 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 7: can possibly get. You got to take it. You don't 232 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 7: get another twenty two caliber bullet out of us unless 233 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 7: you take this deal. 234 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 5: And him using rhetoric like Zelensky is the reason we 235 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: can't have peace. The sticking point here is Zelensky. I 236 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 5: wouldn't be shocked to hear that Friday orself. 237 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: I hope not. 238 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 5: There is a craze going on. It's the lea boo 239 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: boo craze. I don't know what that is. We need 240 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: Katie Green to explain this to us. I like to 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: know what crazes are in case I'm attacked by laboobooz 242 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: whatever they. 243 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Are, or see one, or my kids want. 244 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 7: One, or well, the name la booboo doesn't sound like 245 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 7: something stupid and contemptible anyway, stay Dune for all that. 246 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 9: WNBA star Diana Turasi went off on her pay by 247 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 9: claiming the f thing Janitor made more than me. Well, 248 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 9: in his defense, he does have to mop up dildo's. 249 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what wait a minute, so Janitor cleans those up. 250 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe that joke was fact based. I would 251 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: have thought exactly. So I guess it's my Uh, maybe 252 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: it's my. 253 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 5: Music radio training from back when I was younger, or 254 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: just my personality. But I like to be aware of crazes, 255 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 5: even if it's not something I'm into. I like to 256 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 5: know what the hot TV show is, hot movie, hot music, whatever. 257 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: I like to know what's really popular, even if it's 258 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 5: not my thing. I just I've always thought I need 259 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: to know that. 260 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: I like to think about the ancient Greek republic. 261 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: Geez, I am reading you, Ulysses, so I get both 262 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: sides of it, I guess, but. 263 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Uh, because that's not hot. Nobody else is doing that. 264 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: The Loo booboo craze I was reading about in the 265 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: New York Post. I know it's come up on the show, 266 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: but this is a craze I'm not tuned into yet. 267 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 5: They've got a picture of this furry little doll that 268 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: looks frightening. 269 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: But so fill us in on the little Boo Boo 270 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: craze there, Katie. 271 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 10: So the Laboo Boo craze actually started back in twenty 272 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 10: fifteen when he was first introduced. 273 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: But he's part of this he it's a he. What's 274 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: a he? This la boo boo a he? The article 275 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: gender fluid to me. 276 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 10: I'm going to go with gender fluid, but the article 277 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 10: that I'm reading says he, uh, don't use gendered language. 278 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: Let's see. 279 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 10: Hong Kong based artist created a series called The Monsters, 280 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 10: and one of the characters was a Laboo Boo. It's 281 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 10: influenced by Nordic folklore and mythology, okay, that he enjoyed 282 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 10: during his childhood. 283 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 5: It's a furry little it's it looks cute while at 284 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: the same time kind of menacing with like fangs and whatnot. 285 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 10: And there's this this whole what craze about them right 286 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 10: now is that it's called blind buying. So you buy 287 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 10: this package and you can't see what one is inside, 288 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 10: and people are trying to collect all of them, so 289 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 10: they're buying a lot. 290 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 7: And it says like baseball cards or Nintendo cards back 291 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 7: in the day, you just buy a pack, hoping it's 292 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 7: stuff you don't have, or good stuff or whatever. 293 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: It says here. 294 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: L Boo boo dolls have been spotted dangling from Louis 295 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: Vauton and Saint Laurent Purse's as fashion's quirky new status symbol, 296 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 5: but their popularity could soon spell doom for the economy, 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: and expert warns during economic downturns, consumers gravitate toward what 298 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: experts call affordable luxuries, small dopamine spiking splurges that don't 299 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 5: break the bank, like lipstring, lipstick, ice cream, or movie ticket. 300 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: Studies have shown it's sometimes called the lipstick index in economics, 301 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: which I found very very interesting. 302 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: And this part of that, this is more interesting than 303 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: I anticipated. 304 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 8: Go on. 305 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I was hoping so. 306 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: And the creepy but cute, mischievous dolls could be its 307 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 5: latest iteration. It's and it's an example of people are 308 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: not wanting to splurge on real how I set myself 309 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: apart from other items. So they're going with this cheap, 310 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: trendy thing that's the lipstick index. 311 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: I had never heard of that, but that's that's interesting. Agreed. Yeah, okay, 312 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: we'll keep our eye on that. What do we got 313 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: coming up? Is there a male equivalent to that? I 314 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I'd have to think about that. 315 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 7: Coming up, the incredible lack of purple states in the 316 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,119 Speaker 7: US and why that might matter as we jerrymander ourselves 317 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 7: into like two different countries that live side by side, which. 318 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Leads me into this. 319 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: I had this interesting experience, and I'm glad I have 320 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 5: a meta person that can be my. 321 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: Conduit's not the right word. 322 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: What I want to guide got an entrance entrance point 323 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: into a world I don't really know because I got 324 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 5: as in a conversation conversation with a woman, a mom, herner, husband, 325 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: successful business people, raised kids, sound like the kids are 326 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 5: all a successful blah blah blah, like perfectly. 327 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Upstanding, middle upper class people that. 328 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 5: Have no interest in any of this crap we ever 329 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: talk about, like none, don't know anything about any of it. 330 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: And I just thought, Wow, that must be awesome, that 331 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 5: must be really awesome. 332 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: Well at the same time. 333 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 5: You know, you got to participate and pay attention to 334 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 5: make the world worker. 335 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: It will, you know, rules will be get made. Blah 336 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: blah blah, all that stuff, you know, But it was 337 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: just so interesting. 338 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: I don't hang around people like that, and it's just somebody. 339 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: It's just like they just don't know about any of 340 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 5: the any of that's scant you know, the Genes commercial 341 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 5: from last week or just any of those things. 342 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: They're completely unaware of them. And I thought that must 343 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: be fantastic. 344 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 7: Do they have any concern about how their tax money 345 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 7: is spent? Because it sounds like there's probably a fair amount. 346 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 5: I don't know them well enough to know that, but 347 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 5: that's why I said, I look forward to this entrance 348 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 5: into this world of learning more about it. 349 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Do they have la booboos? 350 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: I bet they don't know what that is. Oh, that'd 351 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 5: being good for them. 352 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Armstrong and Geeddy. 353 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 11: The booming NFL kick that's unofficially the best ever Jacksonville 354 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 11: kicker Cam Little nailed it seventy yard field goal against Pittsburgh. However, 355 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 11: it's not a league record because it happened in a 356 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 11: preseason game. A lengthy cake prompted Little to say, adrenalinees. 357 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: A beautiful thing. 358 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: Seventy yard field goal got if you could make if 359 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 5: you had a guy could make that every now and 360 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: then that changes your situation. 361 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 7: Well, if you know anything about the NFL, generally they 362 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 7: snap it seven yards backward, add ten yards for the 363 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 7: end zone. Effectively, you don't even have to get to 364 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 7: mid field. 365 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: You snap it. 366 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 7: Back to the forty and the human cannon booms it 367 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 7: through the uprights down at the other end of the stadium. 368 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 7: You know, although as a football fan, that's kind of 369 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 7: exciting because you know, if you miss, you give up 370 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 7: the ball at the spot of the kick. Yeah, and 371 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 7: so it's a pretty good gamble seven. The longer they kick, 372 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 7: the bigger the gamble. 373 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: I just was looking at the highlights from the weekend. 374 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 5: There was a guy who, uh for the Patriots, I think, 375 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 5: ran one back first time he'd ever touched a football 376 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 5: as an NFL player in his entire life. He takes 377 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 5: it in the end zone, runs it back for one 378 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: hundred yards. That would be exciting. 379 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how cool. Preseason though, so it's meaningless. 380 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 5: Ain't got a lot of other people out there who 381 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 5: are trying really, really hard because they want to be 382 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 5: on the team. 383 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, speaking of sports. Not that we're going to 384 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 7: speak of sports this segment. We have something very important 385 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 7: to get to. But the lady umpire, I haven't heard 386 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 7: a thorough review of her behind the plate appearance, because 387 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 7: that's where they earn their money, behind the plate. 388 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: But it was a rough start. 389 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, we'll talk about that later. 390 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: So I'm looking up at the TV. Katie, look this 391 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 5: up for me. La booboo scam warning they're reporting on 392 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 5: ABC News. We'll get to those details in hour three. 393 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 5: Not a Labuba scam. God, is nothing sacred? 394 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 7: Then the backlash to the scam, to the graze of 395 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 7: the scam anyway, So I thought this was an interesting 396 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 7: perspective coming up in a. 397 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Moment or two. By the way, a glimpse. 398 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 7: Inside the recent Democratic Socialists of America convention m those 399 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 7: friggin lunatic Marxist scumbags that includes old Mamdami, the commediater 400 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 7: in New York. I thought this was an interesting perspective 401 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 7: about the jerrymandering thing that's been going on for a 402 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 7: very long time. 403 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: Texas. 404 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 7: Just trying to catch up to your Illinois and your 405 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 7: California's and the rest of it. But America's I oh, oh, oh, 406 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 7: that's right. I knew how I wanted to set this up. 407 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 7: Longtime listeners know for a very very long time. When 408 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 7: progressive jackasses, I'm sorry, you know what, that was uncharitable, 409 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 7: and I apologize. I apologize. When progressive folk would say 410 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 7: diversity is our greatest strength, I would frequently reply, no, 411 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 7: it's not. Unity is our greatest strength by far. Diversity 412 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 7: is kind of interesting, but unity is our greatest strength. 413 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: Well comes this article. 414 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 7: America is fracturing into red and blue nations, and some 415 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 7: of the stats are really really interesting. America's identity is 416 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 7: a unified nation is eroding, with Republican and democratic states 417 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 7: dividing into separate spheres, each with its own policies governing 418 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 7: the economic, social, and political rules of life. The upside 419 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 7: of this coming in a moment or two, because I 420 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 7: think there is an upside. But in forty states a 421 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 7: single party controls the House, the Senate, and the government's 422 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 7: office a governor's office. If they have a bicameral system. Wow, wow, 423 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 7: the so called trifecta. I think that's got to be 424 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: what roughly four fifths or eighty percent, or at least 425 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 7: they have enough power to block vetos from a governor 426 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 7: of the other parties, So they essentially have the trifecta. 427 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: That is amazing. 428 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 7: That leaves less than twenty percent of Americans living in 429 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 7: a state where the minority party has a meaningful voice 430 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 7: in government. 431 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 5: Which is why you might give up and leave that 432 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: state if that's not your cup of tea, because you 433 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 5: never get your way. 434 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 7: In fact, you don't even get to limit the other 435 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 7: side's excessive right, which is a prong time Californians, we 436 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 7: can tell you all about it. The result has been 437 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 7: a deepening of differences in red and blue America, and 438 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 7: they go into a variety of issues like abortion and 439 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 7: that sort of thing. They use the term gender affirming care, 440 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 7: which is an absolute badge that you are a far 441 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 7: left progressive. 442 00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: If you ever use that. 443 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: Fox News, are you listening, well it either it either 444 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 5: means you're progressive or you've been tricked by the progressives 445 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: and you haven't caught on to there exactly. They've convinced 446 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: you that that's the language you're supposed to use. 447 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Is yours again? I went too far and I regret it. 448 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 5: Does your article include this or is your feeling that 449 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: we're moving more toward this direction than like we're at 450 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 5: peak this. I feel like we're still moving more toward 451 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: the great sort. 452 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 7: That's a really good question. Just from my gut, I'd say, yeah, 453 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 7: I agree with you completely. 454 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 5: That ain't good. I don't think it good. It can't 455 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 5: be good. Gun it civil war and whatnot? Well, right, yeah, 456 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: and whatnot? YadA YadA, YadA. 457 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 458 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 7: And they mentioned that red and blue states have moved 459 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 7: into sharply in sharply different directions on employment law, gun regulation, 460 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 7: immigration enforcement, sex change, experiments on poor confused little kids. 461 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 7: I mentioned Aborsche, And you know, it's obviously bad in 462 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 7: that unity is our greatest strength, and that if the 463 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 7: president is of the other party, when China invades roughly 464 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 7: half the country is going to be tempted to say, oh, 465 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: that's his fault. You know what, I'm not supporting him 466 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 7: fighting the Chinese COMMI herds. He got us into this 467 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 7: with his damned you know, fascist or consider or progressive policy, 468 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 7: you know, would be disastrous. 469 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: I've been saying this for years, and I think it's 470 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: getting worse. If we had a nine to eleven again, 471 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 5: when I think who was ever president, George W. Bush 472 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 5: or Al Gore, whoever was president, we would have had 473 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: a ninety percent approval rating for that president, because that's 474 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: the way we responded to nine to eleven. I don't 475 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 5: think that would happen today. 476 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: So to your point, they quote this fellow, Michael Podhortzer, 477 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 7: who is a former political director of the AFLCIO. I 478 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 7: have a feeling I know which way he leans, but 479 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 7: I thought it's an interesting point. He says, it's an 480 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 7: essential error to think of America as a single nation. Rather, 481 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 7: the US is a bi national republic, two nations, one red, 482 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 7: one blue. He said, there aren't canons, and this isn't 483 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 7: bull run. This is not a shooting civil war. Yeah, 484 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 7: but it's very much a battle of how people are 485 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 7: going to live in this country. In almost every way, 486 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 7: life in Blue America is different than in Red America, which, 487 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 7: putting aside the whole Chinese Horde scenario, the upside to this, 488 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 7: maybe that we've been calling for half seriously for a 489 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 7: long time, is all right, y'all get half the country, 490 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 7: we get the other half of the country. Let's meet 491 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 7: back in a decade and see who's doing better. 492 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, but with federalism and such, is the red side 493 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 5: going to be paying for a lot of the blue 494 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: side's ridiculousness. 495 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 7: Until it collapses in the style of Illinois Californian more 496 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 7: specifically Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago, Philadelphia, d C. Yes, yes, 497 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 7: actually yeah, Well that's the downside of being right about 498 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 7: policy is we will not be just decimated with crime 499 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 7: and junkieism and overspending in the rest of it. 500 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: I would like to ask an historian, has this ever 501 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: been successfully tried before with an empire, country, nation something. 502 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Where you have whatever the guy called that, a by. 503 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 7: A a bi national republic? 504 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 5: Has there ever been a bi national republic or even 505 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: not a republic, but just you had two completely different 506 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 5: ways of living that don't really intermingle within one border 507 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: in theory, rowing the same direction in the. 508 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 7: World, not without some conflict, none that I can think of, 509 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 7: having studied political systems since I was a wee lad. 510 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 5: And of course the problem with that is whoever's president, 511 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 5: it will go back and forth between complete support for 512 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 5: that president and practically no support for that president. Right, 513 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 5: we'll swing back and forth with that. That'll be fun. 514 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: It's fun already, isn't it. 515 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Kids. 516 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 7: So on that topic, the Democratic Socialists of America held 517 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 7: their conference recently, and wow, they are all excited. We're 518 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 7: in charge now, was their message. Zoronami's surprise when was 519 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 7: not an anomaly, they said, but rather the start of 520 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 7: the dssay's rise to power over. 521 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: The Democratic Party. I think they are the heir apparent. 522 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: I hope they're right, because then they're going to lose 523 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: every election. 524 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 7: I think right, because their policies are idiotic and practically suicidal. 525 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 7: A couple of facts here that are just too good 526 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: to pass up. Attendees were required to submit and everybody, 527 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 7: stop doing what you're doing. 528 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this. 529 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 7: And think about this. This just happened in Chicago. Of course, 530 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 7: Attendees were required to submit proof of a negative COVID 531 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 7: test prior to arrival. 532 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: In summer of twenty twenty five. This just happened, Yes, yeah, 533 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: all right, what is the tie in there? 534 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: We played the it was a coat like when we 535 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 5: played the what was the clip we had last week 536 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 5: of these people at their socialist meeting? 537 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: But we pointed out the video of it was. 538 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: They were all wearing masks, and we were trying to 539 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: figure out what how does that fit together. You're still 540 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: scared of COVID in the middle of twenty twenty five, 541 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 5: and you're a socialist, they obviously go together. That's not 542 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 5: one of those where there's no correlation between the two things. 543 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: There's clearly some sort of correlation. 544 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: It might just be. 545 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 7: In fact, I'm pretty sure it is a barely coherent 546 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 7: tribal signaling mechanism that during COVID people of the left 547 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 7: were extremely obedient, shut everything down, wore masks to the 548 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 7: point of, you know, I almost said absurdity, but it's 549 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 7: horror forcing a toddler to wear a mask in preschool, 550 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 7: Oh my god, with it hanging down around their chin 551 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 7: and the rest of it. I mean, to the point 552 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 7: of like surrealism. They adhered to every limitation and now 553 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 7: that you know, please, who's worried about this were in 554 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 7: the middle of twenty twenty five, they still wear the 555 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: masks to show that they're people of the left. 556 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Now they're so crazy. 557 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, it is, It absolutely is. Let's see, 558 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 7: said one prominent speaker. The Democratic Party is dying. They 559 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 7: have less support than the Republican party. The Democratic is 560 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 7: stabu blishment is coming our way, they pointed out, and 561 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 7: they're right. Mamdani earned an endorsement from foe Indian Elizabeth Warren, 562 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 7: praise from Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, no soul, and 563 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 7: a meeting with House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries. DSA delegates 564 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 7: past a number of resolutions to amend the party's platform, 565 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 7: well periodically waiving Communist party flags. Literally they are hardcore 566 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 7: pro Hamas among other things. In fact, they spent a 567 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 7: lot of time on that. Oh and they made speeches 568 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 7: about how that's clearly a winning issue and they need 569 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 7: to double down on that. 570 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: That has to be a main part of their identity. 571 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 5: So every Sunday show yesterday led with Russia, Ukraine putin 572 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: Trump meeting on Friday, because it's a huge, huge story. 573 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: I think it was who was it? Somebody led with 574 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 5: the redistricting thing, which I thought was little. But we 575 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 5: got a great guest on that, our old friend Lan 576 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 5: he Chen, who's run for office in California knows a 577 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 5: lot about California politics, on how misleading it is that 578 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: Texas is doing something incredibly aberrant and unfair. Let's to democracy, 579 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: and we're going to have him in the third hour, 580 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 5: So if you don't have that planned or whatever, you 581 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 5: want to get the podcast. We can take a break 582 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 5: from politics for a little while and take a look 583 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 5: at that first female umpire in Major League Baseball and 584 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 5: how that went. I've read some really really snarky responses 585 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 5: that I don't Oh, no, I know no, I know 586 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: what on the internet and the Internet of all places. Anyway, 587 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 5: stay tuned. 588 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 9: This weekend, major League Baseball will have its first female umpire. Yeah, 589 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 9: but the game won't start until you hear about her day. 590 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 5: So it's unful believable the kind of jokes that have 591 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: been going on or out around it. But partially because 592 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 5: unless maybe Jo cans strike me out on this, I 593 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 5: don't see why I'm surprised there hasn't already been a 594 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: female Major leagueumpire. 595 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: Is there any reason why a one couldn't do it 596 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: the same as a. 597 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 5: Man When when you get to stuff where it's all 598 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: about strength and speed, there is a difference between men 599 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 5: and women. 600 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: But is there here. 601 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 5: I'll let you talk about that in a second, But 602 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 5: we talked last week lots of jokes online about it. 603 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: The most I asked Groc about them. 604 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 5: The most common one is something along the lines of, 605 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: you know, she throws a guy out of the game, 606 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 5: he says, what do I do? 607 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: And she says, you know what you did? 608 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: Or she'll call someone out for a play three years ago. 609 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: As Groc says, poking fun and outdated gender tropes. Is 610 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: everybody laughing because that's not somewhat true. I mean, give 611 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 5: me a break, AnyWho, and then the whole well, there's 612 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: other jokes. 613 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: But she actually debuted over the weekend. How did it go? 614 00:32:59,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 12: Street today? 615 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: Wait, Joey, wait, wait, wait, wait, Joe's going to set 616 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: this up like, yeah, she did. 617 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 7: She worked her way toward home plate, as is the 618 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 7: umpire's tradition. 619 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: You go third to second or first to home. 620 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 7: And there's a great deal of attention being paid to 621 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 7: her plate debut, particularly the first pitch. 622 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 12: Some more history today. Joey Wentz is ready. We hope 623 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 12: you're ready. Here we go. Joey Wentz likes that first 624 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 12: call for Jim Powell. He'll take it, and I wonder 625 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 12: if they're going to take the baseball. 626 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: I guess not. 627 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 12: I thought that maybe that would be kind of a 628 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 12: big one. 629 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: There we go, now we got to figure it out. 630 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 12: Yep, they are going to authenticate it and Jim Powell 631 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 12: will forever get to keep that. 632 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 633 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 5: So if I was just listening to that, I would 634 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: have thought nothing. But you're saying there's something to that. 635 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, you remark that the pitcher really liked that call. 636 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 7: It's because it was at least four inches off the plate. 637 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 7: I mean, it was clearly a ball and she called 638 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 7: it a strike. Surprise twist. According to my impeachable baseball sources, 639 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 7: of course, they haven't been impeached yet, she actually was 640 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 7: pretty solid well, as a source close to the major 641 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 7: leagues says, she was fine, just like all of us. 642 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 7: Umpiring is pain. She'll be subject to the same as 643 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 7: the rest of us. Was the first call like egregiously wrong? 644 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it was terrible. 645 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: Does that happen? How often does that happen with umpires 646 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 5: in their first ever? 647 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 7: You'd be nervous, Yeah, yeah that, Yeah, you shouldn't make 648 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 7: a call that bad, but it happens. It's harder than 649 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 7: it looks. She will call, you know, one hundred plus 650 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 7: pitches in the game and probably actually like miss miss 651 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 7: a few. 652 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: Is there any reason? 653 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: Is there any reason a woman couldn't do this job 654 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: as well as a man, like I don't see why 655 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: they're I'm surprised that there hasn't been a female empire. 656 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 7: The only argument would be because they're on the field 657 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 7: with a lot of very manly men with very high stakes, 658 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 7: and they're the It's not like arguing vociferously and angrily 659 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 7: with baseball umpires is unknown, And it just seemed like 660 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 7: a better thing for a dude to take on a 661 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 7: dude and not a woman. 662 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: To get in the face of a man. 663 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and tradition, although you know, there have been 664 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 7: psychological studies that show that angry dudes, when confronted with 665 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 7: a dude, will say, oh yeah, come on. Confronted with 666 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 7: a woman, they'll say, all right, all right, okay. 667 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 5: Well the first time that happens, that'll be interesting and 668 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 5: get tremendous amount of talk, I guarantee you. But to 669 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 5: the whole being nervous thing, I was watching a little 670 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 5: bit of preseason NFL football yesterday when my kids were 671 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 5: eating a haircut in the forty nine Ers game was on, 672 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 5: and this guy who really wants to make the team 673 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 5: in his NFL debut, perfect pass right in the hands 674 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: dropped it, and the announcers were talking, boy, you got 675 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 5: to catch that ball. And here you are trying to 676 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 5: make the team. And I thought, this guy has been 677 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 5: the star of his junior high team, his high school team, 678 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: a star in college. Here he is and he dropped that. 679 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just yeah, probably nerves. Yeah, I mean, 680 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 5: you dropped something no matter what. But yeah, that's I 681 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 5: guess it happens anyway. Trump just made a big announcement 682 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 5: about DC Police, among other things. 683 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: We'll get through Armstrong and Getty