WEBVTT - 6/18/26: Trump 180 On Iran, Ben Shapiro Attacks Vance, Deep State Fights Iran MOU

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<v Speaker 1>show for a buddy today. What do we Crystal?

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed we do.

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<v Speaker 2>The MLU with Iran has been signed in Versailles, and

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<v Speaker 2>Trump gave a wild press conference that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>spend some time with some some very very interesting things.

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<v Speaker 2>That is part of why we are in day whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know at this point of the complete Zio meltdown,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have decided to train their ire on one man.

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<v Speaker 2>That man is not Donald Trump. It is Jade Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is an interesting political dynamic that we want

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<v Speaker 2>to take into. We're also really excited to be joined

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<v Speaker 2>by the editor of Omwadge Media. They have had a

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<v Speaker 2>number of really significant scoops over the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>Iran War, and so we're going to dig into the

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<v Speaker 2>details of this memo of understanding what it says, what

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't say, what it means in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>possibilities of war and peace going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>So very much looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's new FED chair has been part of the decision

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<v Speaker 2>to keep rates the same in a significant announcement yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Trump has been agitating aggressively for rights to

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<v Speaker 2>be cut, so we'll see what he had to say

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<v Speaker 2>on the matter. And the membership list of Peter Thiel's

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Society has been leaked as well as an eye brazing,

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<v Speaker 2>eyebrow racing, eye brathing eyebrow agenda for their next confabs.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of very influential, powerful names on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the aisle that have been revealed as part

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<v Speaker 2>of that exclusive club set.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly, and maybe they'll meet next in Argentina where he

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, with the Memorandum of Understanding that has

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<v Speaker 1>now been signed in Versa Ell. Here it is in

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<v Speaker 1>all of its pomp and circumstance, Donald Trump. They're signing

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<v Speaker 1>the Memorandum of Understanding in the hall. Yes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>each's some Farsi some new English translation there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is clapping, surrounded by world leaders. The Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State right behind him, and Macron leads two rounds of

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<v Speaker 1>applause and cries of bravo as the document is signed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll hold some of my historical commentary here

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<v Speaker 1>on Versa I here for a moment. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>nonetheless extraordinary. One of the reasons why it is being

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<v Speaker 1>signed electronically and being transmitted between both sides is because

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<v Speaker 1>they want immediate resumption of the passage of traffic through

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<v Speaker 1>the Strait of Horror Moods, which as of this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>three Saudi tankers appear to be making their way through

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<v Speaker 1>the Strait of hornor Moves. So it does show us that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some traffic is beginning to resume. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, the Iranians know that the moment it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually signed considered official, that they get the release of

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<v Speaker 1>some of their funds, which Trump of course address. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, we had a wild Trump press conference

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<v Speaker 1>which preceded all of this. It's like somebody injected truth

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<v Speaker 1>serum into him and all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the gaff is when a politician tells the truth, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of gaffes I think throughout this

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<v Speaker 1>entire one. First and foremost is Trump here on nuclear enrichment,

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<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, maybe we won't let them enrich a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Let's take a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been pretty tough in that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also it is a little hard though, when you

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<v Speaker 4>say that somebody wants to other people have it, other

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<v Speaker 4>adjoining states have it, and you're not letting them have

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<v Speaker 4>it for purposes of electricity and things like that. It's

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<v Speaker 4>always a little tough. You have to use a little

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<v Speaker 4>common SENSI please.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, got to use common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed, Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Restauraw is their right to enrich for civilian purposes. But

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<v Speaker 2>pre up to this moment, you know, if you said that,

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<v Speaker 2>you were mostly like, you know, a fringe lefty, usually radical,

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<v Speaker 2>and now here you have the president like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's be reasonable a lot about this. Why

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<v Speaker 2>would we ban them from riching a little bit for

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<v Speaker 2>civilian purposes?

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<v Speaker 1>You were previously surrender monkey if you said, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they said that we won't get a nuclear weapon. They

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<v Speaker 1>even agreed not to enrich past a certain point for

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<v Speaker 1>civilian purposes. So I used my common sense before the war,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what's the problem with that? And

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<v Speaker 1>yet Trump consistently said that the Iranians would not commit

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<v Speaker 1>to zero enrichment, as in zero enrichment and uranium whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>or any nuclear material, including for civilian or for medical purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>and used that as a pretext. Remember, he would consistently

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<v Speaker 1>say Iran won't remember the magic words, they won't say

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<v Speaker 1>the magic words zero nuclear weapons, which he would define

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<v Speaker 1>as zero enrichment. Anybody watching the show over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, I guess now is very familiar. And now

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has come full circle back to this show.

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<v Speaker 2>So much of it with him too is like whoever

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<v Speaker 2>he last spoke with one hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know who what. Maybe it was JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Van's last and his year, but somebody gave him some

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<v Speaker 2>new thoughts on the matter. Because previously, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>during this war, but leading up to it, in the

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve Day War and throughout the negotiations, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they had a pretty reasonable deal on the

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<v Speaker 2>table before they started bombing Ran the first time around.

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<v Speaker 2>But in any case, you know, they he kept having

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<v Speaker 2>his red line shifted by Israel and made more and

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<v Speaker 2>more extreme. So it became not just no nuclear weapons,

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<v Speaker 2>not just no nuclear Richmond whatsoever. But also we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to we have to deal with the pallistic missile program,

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<v Speaker 2>which is another area that he gets to here. And

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<v Speaker 2>now he says, well, how does that make any sense?

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<v Speaker 2>If everybody else is allowed to have weapons and defend themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't Iran have a right to defend itself to and

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<v Speaker 2>have some sort of a military presence and have their

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<v Speaker 2>mollistic missile program.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's sake, go listen to that.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll be working on a parallel effort with the

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<v Speaker 4>Gulf nations to address non nuclear issues, such as the

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<v Speaker 4>conventional ballistic missiles, which we'll be talking about and support.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they have to have some because other people

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<v Speaker 4>have some. You've got to have some. Somebody said you

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't give them one, but I have guys. I like

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<v Speaker 4>some of these guys, but I don't think this, don't

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<v Speaker 4>think they're smart. Sure, you shouldn't let them have any missile.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well what am I going to do? Am

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<v Speaker 4>I going to let Saudi Arabia have missiles? But they

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<v Speaker 4>can't have them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, can't.

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<v Speaker 4>Does it work that way? You know, it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 4>that way. And missiles aren't the problem. Missiles or they

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<v Speaker 4>heard a little lowkey, but it don't blow up the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, absolutely, part true, Yeah, accurate. What you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let everybody else and there you're gonna let Israel have

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want from ours dot files, but you're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let her on have any missile.

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<v Speaker 1>As he said, in other words, Iran has a right

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<v Speaker 1>to defend itself. Right, that's that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What it a right to exp does it have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to Iran has a right to exist and a

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<v Speaker 1>right to defend itself. Right, Yeah, he's right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, part of this just belies the basic fact. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when you lose a war, there are two things that

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<v Speaker 1>have to happen. Number one, you don't get everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you want, and too, you have to pay them a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reparations. This is Lindy, It's a tale as

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<v Speaker 1>old as time. You don't conquer the place. Thus you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to take some gold out of the treasury and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, haul it on over and sign a memorandum

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<v Speaker 1>and as if that doesn't hold, then you go back

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<v Speaker 1>to war. This is what happens people. Sorry, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>be about faith in one hundred days, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what's yeah, so's talking about it. But at a basic level, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. But that's why these by uttering these truths

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. Look from Trump, he can reverse

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at anything, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Can say something different today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can say something different today. But there is

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<v Speaker 1>power in the truth, and there is power in what

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<v Speaker 1>we have been trying to emphasize here for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it that you can allow Israel, a rogue state,

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<v Speaker 1>to have a secret nuclear weapons program, to have missiles

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<v Speaker 1>to bomb seven of its neighbors, to conquer and annexed

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<v Speaker 1>parts of Syria, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Gaza, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in a straight face say you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>have any even civilian nuclear in Richmond. You're not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to have any ballistic missile threat. You cannot do that,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can. You have to take over the entire country,

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<v Speaker 1>right And so that's why by saying yes, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a right right to defend itself and sure, oh a

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<v Speaker 1>civilian nuclear we can't say that. And they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're going to pay them. It's like, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay them, otherwise they're going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the straightformance and even paying, as Trump soon addresses,

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<v Speaker 1>is not even really paying them. We're paying them with

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<v Speaker 1>their own money like Obama did this so called palettes.

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<v Speaker 2>Of cap Let me just react to what you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think you made an important point about the

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<v Speaker 2>power of truth and the power of reality, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that has overwhelmed the propaganda efforts, which were

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<v Speaker 2>very minimal, by the way, for this war and pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pathetic and poorly organized and changing day by day. But

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<v Speaker 2>the ability of the American people to see through some

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<v Speaker 2>of that propaganda has really overwhelmed this war effort, and

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<v Speaker 2>American foreign policy is increasingly built on propaganda and lies,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's things like, oh, Israel's the most moral army

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<v Speaker 2>on the planet and there are great allies, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>really great for our interests eventually, especially, I mean in

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<v Speaker 2>part because of social media. Because you have a much

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<v Speaker 2>more diverse media ecosystem, you're not able to just keep

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<v Speaker 2>people in the mainstream press, where these propaganda efforts are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, come with very few holes in them, are

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<v Speaker 2>very cohesive. Since you have that access, people are just

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<v Speaker 2>not buying this fantasy world. And the fantasy world is

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<v Speaker 2>becoming more and more preposterous by the day. I told

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<v Speaker 2>you a while ago, I was shocked by this. I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to my mom, who is not like particularly political.

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<v Speaker 2>She most of her life has been an independent. Now

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<v Speaker 2>she hates Trump, so she's definitely votes for Democrats by

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<v Speaker 2>and large, but she was talking about Iran and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't really get it, Like we're allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to have nuclear weapons, so they are She's like, that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem fair to me. I was like, wow, lom okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretty shocked that she said that. But people

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing through a lot of these lies and these

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<v Speaker 2>propaganda that has been built up over years and years

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<v Speaker 2>and years. So look, Trump, one danger with him always

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<v Speaker 2>is that people hear on one day something that they

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear from Trump, just as the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Zionists who wanted this war. We're hearing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things from him that they wanted to hear over

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of days.

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<v Speaker 3>And now he's saying something.

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<v Speaker 2>Different and doing something different at least for the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they, oh, my god, he betrayed us.

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<v Speaker 3>He's shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this man will turn on a dime at

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<v Speaker 2>any moment. There is no person he is loyal to,

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<v Speaker 2>There is no country is loyal to outside of himself. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's remarkable to hear him say these things

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<v Speaker 2>that of course if Fabama said, if Biden said it,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be and we would still be hearing about

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<v Speaker 2>it on Fox News, et cetera. It is remarkable to

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<v Speaker 2>hear him say those things, but of course it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that this is his fixed, locked in position. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that we won't go back to war tomorrow. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Israel is still bombing, they root. All of this

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<v Speaker 2>is very tenuous and unstable. But the reason to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it is not because Trump is a reliable or

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<v Speaker 2>good actor here. The reason to talk about it is

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<v Speaker 2>because I think you're right. I think there is power

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<v Speaker 2>and truth, and I think these are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that the American people have intuitive, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>they have been so opposed to this war from the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning in a way that is truly unprecedented in I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just stick again, you know, and I know some

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<v Speaker 1>of this is repetitive for long time viewers. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, let's just think about you know, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Biden logic. We have to arm Ukraine because

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<v Speaker 1>they're being invaded. Israel invades. Israel invades Gaza, the West Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>Syria and Lebanon annexes their territory in violation of international law,

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<v Speaker 1>and we enable it and we ship them weapons. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>what a second Bucah's a genocide Gaza?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>That no, that's a what is it? A self defense action?

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<v Speaker 1>Horrific civilian casualties except one is orders of magnitude bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than the other. That doesn't make a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense, does it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the framing of Iran as like the singular evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people watched.

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<v Speaker 2>Us in Israel commit a genocide in Gaza for years

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<v Speaker 2>and then we go out and try to do our

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<v Speaker 2>moral preening in the world. Oh, the Islamic terrorist regime.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're shooting protesters in the street. It's not that

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<v Speaker 2>Americans are looking this and go oh yeah, Ron, They're

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<v Speaker 2>actually the good guys. They're just going like, well, who

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<v Speaker 2>are we really at this point to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>lecture the world on moral values? And do we really

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<v Speaker 2>believe that Donald Trump is so deeply concerned about the

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<v Speaker 2>rights of protesters in the street in Tehran?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it's preposterous.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the the fantasy world has become so divorce

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<v Speaker 2>from reality that people did not buy it. They have

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<v Speaker 2>access to information they didn't used to have. And now

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<v Speaker 2>you have an American president who is acknowledging things that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I've gotten this can change in a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>But who is acknowledging obvious logical things that many Americans

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<v Speaker 2>into it did and it is hard to put that

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<v Speaker 2>understanding back in the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, same with Iraq. I mean, oh, we were

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<v Speaker 1>greeted as liberators. We're going to bring them democracy and

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<v Speaker 1>for it. We all lived through that. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>this is bullshit from day one. It's only the same

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<v Speaker 1>people who pushed the war are the very same people

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<v Speaker 1>who are parroting those truths. Which is ironic because in

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<v Speaker 1>most cases actually the exact same people who are defending

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<v Speaker 1>and who were pushing it. There is immense power in

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. Here is the next one from Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>about Iran's money and how can we just keep it?

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<v Speaker 1>That would undermine faith in the dollar. Let's go and

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<v Speaker 1>put a three and let's.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen explained though, what the difference is between giving a

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<v Speaker 6>rack and US dollars and unfreezing US dollars for.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the unfreezing it's an easy one to answer. We

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<v Speaker 4>have taken a lot of their money, and we have

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<v Speaker 4>their money. We have taken them. It's not our money,

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<v Speaker 4>it's their money, and we froze it. At a certain

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<v Speaker 4>point in time, I guess we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>give it back. You know, if we didn't give it back,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody would ever invest in the dollar again if you

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<v Speaker 4>took their money. Because I thought about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not the post perfect person. I said to Scott Scott,

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<v Speaker 4>what do we keep their money? What the hell are

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<v Speaker 4>we giving it back to them? But you know, people

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<v Speaker 4>from lots of nations, some nations we don't agree with,

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<v Speaker 4>they have their money with the dollars become very strong

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<v Speaker 4>under me, and they don't want to have a little

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<v Speaker 4>conflict with somebody and end up having the United States

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<v Speaker 4>just take their money. So if you do that, you

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<v Speaker 4>really don't have a system.

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<v Speaker 1>Your rights are absolutely You're absolutely right. And yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a neocon worldview, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>United States can be the world's reserve currency in bank

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<v Speaker 1>that just declares when somebody who's spooky and bad doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to have access to their money, like we did

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<v Speaker 1>with Russia. You know, I'm coming back to Russia. We

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<v Speaker 1>just said, oh no, actually, all of your money, it's ours.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we said at the time, we're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to blow up the integrity of the entire

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<v Speaker 1>international banking system and create an alternative, you know, cycle

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<v Speaker 1>of crypto and of the Chinese wand that will be

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<v Speaker 1>used to circumvent the US Bank, which actually makes us weaker.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what happened. And then how did Iran actually

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<v Speaker 1>facilitate some of those two million And we know at

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<v Speaker 1>least some people paid the toll. How did they pay

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<v Speaker 1>either in wand or they paid in crypto? Well, guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>You laid the ground for that again with what happened

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<v Speaker 1>after Ukraine. So you are watching the reckoning and we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to talk about this later. People are now

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<v Speaker 1>bullish back on the dollar after a result of this,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like, oh, hey, actually, you know, we could

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the world's reserve. Says it's bad for

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<v Speaker 1>the States, especially in an emerging multipolar system where people

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<v Speaker 1>who are quote enemies or bad or for a president

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<v Speaker 1>can at any time just turn his back and say

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<v Speaker 1>all of your money is ours. To be able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it. You know, this reminds me of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Palace of cash situation, which I'll be honest at the

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<v Speaker 1>time I fell for it because I didn't do enough research.

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<v Speaker 1>But going back treat to PARSI outlined all of this

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<v Speaker 1>on the Tucker Carlson Show and laid it out extremely well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, look, he had a certain amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>was paid by the SHAW to the United States for arms.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't send the arms, we kept the money. The

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian regime took the US to court at the Hague,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Hague was going to rule against us, so

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<v Speaker 1>we had to send back the money with interest because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the rule. And we sent back what was their money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and when they were sanctioned from using any of

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<v Speaker 2>the traditional banking systems, so how else are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to get them the money then sending them sending them

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<v Speaker 2>pallets of cash? And that is the piece where it's

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<v Speaker 2>This one is the hardest for me to stomach from

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<v Speaker 2>Trump because he has demagogued like so much against the

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<v Speaker 2>JCPOA and the provisions in there and the palettes of cash.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he did the whole thing all in on

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<v Speaker 2>those talking wow we go Obama with how terrible deal

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<v Speaker 2>it was and how we sent them these palettes of

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<v Speaker 2>cash to fund their terrorist activities, blah blah blah. So

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<v Speaker 2>it is a little bit hard for me to stomach

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<v Speaker 2>him now acknowledging the truth when it comes to him

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<v Speaker 2>and his deal of Hey, this is actually their money

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<v Speaker 2>and at some point we probably should give it back.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise this becomes in a way a problem for us,

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<v Speaker 2>because if we are continually using and abusing our status

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<v Speaker 2>is the world's reserve currency, our domination of the global

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<v Speaker 2>financial system, then of course nations are going to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out alternatives, and that is already happening in nascent form,

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<v Speaker 2>and already our sanctions and the power of those sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>they're still powerful, don't get me wrong, but already they're

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<v Speaker 2>beginning to be diminished and less of a threat than

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<v Speaker 2>they used to be. Now, that's probably a good thing

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<v Speaker 2>for the world, but if you're an American president and

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<v Speaker 2>you're interested in preserving American empire, not such great there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a disaster. And yeah, I mean ninety eight that

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. Sure where else are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to go in twenty twenty six. Nope, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different avenues that you can go through, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're willing to sit there and to suffer, which

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately that's what happened. The Iranians were like, Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a massive hit. People are going to starve,

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be poor, but at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, we're going to hold out for victory.

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<v Speaker 1>We're literally under consistent bombing and attack. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute war of survival. And as all regimes that are

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<v Speaker 1>under that exact type of pressure, they did not buckle,

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<v Speaker 1>They got stronger, they held out for potential terms, and

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<v Speaker 1>we eventually had to bend the knee. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>things were going to work out. As you said, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I think this is a good thing. This

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<v Speaker 1>actually is a healthy dynamic. But this is why it

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<v Speaker 1>is so intolerable for Israel, because if we treat Iran

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal country, that erases their regional hegemony over

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<v Speaker 1>the entire world. That erases the fact that we now

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<v Speaker 1>have to balance these different interests. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>made this point with doctor Parsi. Iran's GDP is only

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred billion less than the entire nation of Israel. Now, granted,

0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Israel is a much higher GDP per capita, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are plenty of small high GDP per capita nations which

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<v Speaker 1>overall GDP don't make them particularly important to the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. You have Iran here, which unsanctioned and

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<v Speaker 1>reconstructed with that three hundred billion, if they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>sell oil into the global market to export, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any of this and then use it to invest twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years from now, between the strait of hormones and

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<v Speaker 1>the strength of their economy, this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a geopolitical not maybe not powerhouse, what regional power. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Pape has consistently said, and he really deserves you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the first person who really gave me the vision

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<v Speaker 1>of this framework. He's right, you know, between the power

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<v Speaker 1>of geography and then their ability to export this amount

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<v Speaker 1>of oil. Not to mention you know, look, they have,

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<v Speaker 1>as the neocons always said, there's a lot of intellectual

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<v Speaker 1>capital that's locked up in Iran. If they have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability over the next twenty five years to operate as

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<v Speaker 1>a normal nation, there is no reason that they will

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<v Speaker 1>not become massively more economically and strategically important to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to show the power of their bargaining chip. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody, I have. The number one chirp that

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<v Speaker 1>annoys me is people say you said oil was going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit two hundred. I'm like, sorry, I didn't foresee

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<v Speaker 1>that China would cut forty percent of all of its

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<v Speaker 1>imports for the first time ever in human history. I apologize,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Also, you should be thinking, so you should

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<v Speaker 1>be happy I was wrong, and you should thank China

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<v Speaker 1>for having better evs and for a shit ton more

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<v Speaker 1>oil reserve than we do. But we also kept pointing

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<v Speaker 1>to one thing, the strategic petroleum reserve, and we're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>all these oil executives say another month or two of

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a real problem. And what did

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<v Speaker 1>everybody say, Oh, you're wrong, it's not happening. Look at

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the delusional traders on Wall Street. Well, same power in

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. Here's Trump saying we had four weeks until

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<v Speaker 1>every strategic petroleum reserve ran dry. Let's take a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, we run out of reserves in about four weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there are reserves all over the world, and

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<v Speaker 4>we would really run out, and there'll be a time

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<v Speaker 4>when you wouldn't be able to get it. And you

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<v Speaker 4>want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Bedlam, bedlam, bedlam.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're at it towards I'll get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chevron Ceo all Rory. I want to really, these people

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<v Speaker 1>deserve credit. They were not incorrect. All they did not

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<v Speaker 1>foresee was China having one of the world's largest strategic

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<v Speaker 1>petroleum reserves and massively cutting their energy imports, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will just say nobody literally could have foreseen that except

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<v Speaker 1>for the CCP, if China had continued to import oil,

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<v Speaker 1>the current estimate is oil would have been over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>barrel now here. Whenever it comes to the strategic reserve,

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.399
<v Speaker 1>they have access to the ex because the data is

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 1>all out there. We can all see, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lowest level since nineteen ninety eight, next week, the lowest

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.680
<v Speaker 1>level since nineteen eighty four. Were like, well, it's not

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that much oil there, and then when they do, we

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 1>know how much that we produce on a daily basis,

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>We have no slack in the system. We know what

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<v Speaker 1>direction that's going to go. Same here from Trump, we

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:46.639
<v Speaker 1>would have run out of oil and it would have

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>been bedlam. So the basic reality is that Iran's strategy

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 1>was correct, and that fundamentally the weapon of the Strait

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:57.399
<v Speaker 1>of Hormoves will remain for all time a part of

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the Iranian playbook, and it should be from their perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>We can either change that by occupying their nation and

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<v Speaker 1>taking hundreds of thousands of casualties, or we can pay

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 1>them and we can just live together. I choose the latter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people do too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's very interesting to hear Trump say

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.919
<v Speaker 2>this to say the least, because I mean, this is

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:23.719
<v Speaker 2>what the Iranian bet was right. They bet that we

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<v Speaker 2>could not take the economic pain that they could, and

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<v Speaker 2>that it would hurt us more and it would force

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<v Speaker 2>us to come to the table and give them the

0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>terms that they had long been seeking. This is confirmation

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that they were correct, that that bet ultimately paid off.

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, all the propaganda of FDD and others who

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 2>were saying, oh, if you just if we do a blockade,

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>if they're blockade, they're going to completely collapse. Remember that

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.200
<v Speaker 2>they were saying, oh, their oil wells are going to

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 2>explode and they're going to completely collapse in days. Obviously

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that did not happen. And so here you have Trump

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging the reason for the timing of this deal is

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 2>because we ran out of runway. We were weeks away

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>from what he describes as bedlam, because we were running

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>too low on the strategic petroleum reserve. We weren't the

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 2>only ones the whole world's ability to absorb this extraordinarily

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 2>truly historic level of an energy shock that was within

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<v Speaker 2>days to weeks of coming to an end, and so

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 2>that's why he was so intent on getting this deal

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<v Speaker 2>now because we were out of time.

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 3>There was another very interesting colm.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't pull it, but I think it was a

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of things he said were just like very revealing

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 2>of what was going on in his head as he's

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<v Speaker 2>watching all of this unfold. And we know how much

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 2>he watches the stock market and how much market manipulation

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>was a part of the entire strategy this whole time along,

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.479
<v Speaker 2>and he said, like, look, I observed that when there

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 2>was talk of peace, the stock market went on, and

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 2>when there was talk of war, the stock market went down.

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And the markets are that they're more genius than any

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 2>person on the entire planet. So the markets are wise

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and all knowing. So that sent me the message of hey,

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I better get to peace because that's what the stock

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 2>market wants. I think that was genuinely an influential part

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>of his thinking, was just this very simplistic, oh piece

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 2>good war bad as judging by the response from the market.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought that was very revealing as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>all that being said, I just want to again sound

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 2>a note of caution, you know, I'm just reading the

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<v Speaker 2>headlines right now in Haretz. You've got Israel holding negotiations

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>with the US as it seeks to continuous deployment of

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>troops in southern Lebanon. One person was killed in an

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Israeli drone strike in a town in southern Lebanon's Navitia district,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 2>according to a local channel.

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<v Speaker 3>So you still have Israel agitating here.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Netnyahu's entire entire political career is truly on the line.

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Israel feels that this is existential. We're going to show

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you some of the continued freak count from their allies here,

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 2>as well as some domestic you know, intense supporters of

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>net Yahoo for example, who are just absolutely losing their minds.

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>They will do whatever they can to undermine this. And

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Trump is very sensitive. His ego is very sensitive. You

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 2>know that he could wake up today, see news coverage

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't like, and go back to banging the drums

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>of war.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 3>None of this is stable.

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 2>The other thing I will just say on the politics

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.639
<v Speaker 2>of it is, you know, when Biden withdrew from Afghanistan,

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 2>there's this It's not exactly the same, but it is

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a similar moment of acknowledging the reality

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>of this as a failed war. We've been here for decades,

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>we didn't accomplish anything. Now is the time to pull

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the plug. What we're going to stay there forever. That

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>was basically the reason for the Afghan withdrawal was there

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>is not going to be a good time to do this,

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 2>so we're just going to do this and acknowledge the

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>reality that is in front of everybody's eyes. People leading

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>up to the withdrawal supported it overwhelmingly. If you pulled

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the American people we looked at these polls, they would say, yes,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 2>we should.

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Get out of Afghanistan.

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Then it happened, and it became the single most devastating

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 2>blow to Biden's presidency, the reason being because there was

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>such a united front across all media apparatus. There were

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>very big again credit to ro Connie was one of

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the only ones who was willing to go out and

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>defend Biden and his withdrawal from Afghanistan. There was such

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 2>a blanket condemnation then, of course, like the horror of

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 2>American service members being killed, the mess of all that

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 2>surely did not help anything. Although I don't know that

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>there ever would have been a way that this could

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 2>have gone completely smoothly. It really was like the death

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>knell of his presidency. And so even though Trump here,

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>if this goes through, if we get to peace, etc.

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fact that he brought us into war

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>to begin with was an utter and complete disaster. And

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the acknowledgment of the reality of our losing this war,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>which is what happened.

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>We lost the war.

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>And what that means, what we're going to have to

0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 2>give in exchange for acknowledging that reality would be a

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>death now for Trump's presidency. The way that the Afghan

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>removedstra was from Biden.

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's like ending a war which you shouldn't

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>have been in the first That's why even navigating is

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>just so difficult. Right you want to be like, wow,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you for your strategic wisdom. It's like, well you

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>got us into this damn message.

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're the reason that the straight of hormans were

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 2>closed in the first way.

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, and yeah, what it is actually thank god gas

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>just hit three ninety nine a gallon nationally.

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Good.

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm happy it was to fifty. So okay,

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you know it's like, are we going to are we

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>going to celebrate things. No, that's why instead of Trump,

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to attack the people who are attacking

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the deal. That's going to be kind of my where

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm at. But yeah, you're not wrong. A lot of

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 1>people are not going to forget because it's not like

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>things were all peachy here in the US even before

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the US went to or with the run last thing.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Matt Stoler had a good tweet months ago where he said,

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll believe that a deal is real when Trump starts

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>praising the Iranians in a vaguely homosexual manner and his

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.479
<v Speaker 1>nascent dude crush is We're very on display, not necessarily

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Iranians here, but to a lot of the

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Arab allies who helped cement this piece deal. Let's take

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>a listen a six.

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 7>Yes, we're a.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice looking person.

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 7>Is he from your gun?

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Is he from your gun? Absolutely?

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 6>No, he's got such.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 4>A nice way about him. My people is they're so mean?

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 7>Look at.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.719
<v Speaker 1>He cared for No, I can't him.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 4>I could put him in a movie right now, go ahead.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 4>He's a very tough Negotiator's one of the toughest act

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 4>So you look at this man, I'll give you a lesson.

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 4>He's the most beautiful looking man. He looks so nice.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 4>He's like an angel, but actually he's a tough He's

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 4>a killer. I don't want to he's that killer. He's

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 4>as tough as a couple, but he looks so good,

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 4>so he gets you by surprise. So he was in

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 4>a hotel and I met him, and we fell in love,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 4>deeply in love. And he didn't even want to.

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:06.239
<v Speaker 1>The last person's talking about there as president of like

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the most brutal dictators.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I stayed longer as long as I was

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>supposed to.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 3>We fell in love.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 2>So my theory of what happened here that really clinched

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the deal in the end, and you know, led to

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Trump's capitulation on some key concessions. As he saw the

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Iranian men's national soccer team and was like at these

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>lit these big, strong guys and some better looking to

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise, and he was like, give them what they want.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>They want to do a little nuclear Richmond, why not?

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>They want their money back? Who could blame them? Give

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>them their money back. I think I think that's what's

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 2>really going on behind the scenes. There was there was

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a chart on Twitter that said, like, as Trump's dementia

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>level rises, also his blatant bisexuality rises in tandem.

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 3>So that might be.

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>What's going on here, certainly something. All right, let's get

0:29:52.720 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>to the vance situation. Turning now to this bizarre situuation

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>in the Maga neocon world where all of these pathetic

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>cowards do not have the balls to actually say Donald Trump,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you made a bad deal. And so instead it's like

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the good czar and the bad boyars. They have to

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 1>go and find who that bad boyar is. Here it

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>is now the vice president who is manipulating and controlling

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>things behind the scenes. Here is Ben Shapiro on Fox

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>News making this case. Let's take a listen.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 7>I've said many times the President deciding to go into

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 7>Iran and to hit nuclear facilities in Operation Midnight Hammer

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 7>and then to go after Iron's ballistic missile facilities and

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 7>nuclear facilities Army, Navy, and Air Force in this current

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 7>operation was the signal act of political bravery, perhaps of

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 7>my lifetime. With that said, this MoU appears to be

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 7>just from the text, a disaster that does not achieve

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 7>any of the actual signal goals that were set by

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 7>the administration at the beginning. There were effectively five goals

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 7>that were set by the administration at the beginning when

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 7>it was ending the nuclear program not just nuclear weapons,

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 7>no nuclear Richmonds, Zeroon Richmond that is not in the deal.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Ballistic missiles ended.

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 7>That is not in the deal, and the President today

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 7>suggested that ballistic missiles should actually continue to be held

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 7>by the Iranians because the Saudis our allies also hold

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 7>ballistic missiles. Then you have the support of terrorism that

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 7>is not part of the deal. Anything that looks like

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 7>an attempt to end terrorism, a permanent opening of the

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 7>straight ofform moves toll free.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Not only is that not in the deal, the deal.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 7>Appears to have a provision allowing Iran and Oman to

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 7>attempt to toll the straits after sixty days, and then

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 7>finally the idea that Iran would receive some sort of

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 7>sanctions released after all of those things happen, we are

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 7>already seeing from day one relief in their ability to

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 7>ship oil out of Iran. In my opinion, the Vice

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 7>President of the United States, the chief negotiator on this

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.479
<v Speaker 7>particular project, has not well served the president.

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>He has not well served the president he served. Maybe

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>consider the possibility Trump who signed it, can read can

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>we accept that possibility? Thus, maybe it's Donald Trump's deal

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and you don't have the stones to say, hey, Trump,

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you made a bad deal. About this is It's like

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he's like this infallible, Like literally, it's the czar is infallible.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Only the people around him who are bad. But the

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>irony of all of this is is that when Talker

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and a few others remember when of the war breakout

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, well, Israel drug us into a war?

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>They're like, Donald Trump is the wisest, most independent, most

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>singular leader in to say he is controlled, manipulated, in

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>fact preposterously discussing, insulting. Can anybody look at the mighty

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>President Trump and say he is controlled? And now now

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>he's just a weak is like he's not just being

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>all led by his advice. Let me give you my

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>other personal favorite, Will Chamberlain. You know we've had him

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>here on the show. You know him, and I you know,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.479
<v Speaker 1>I used to like the guy. But the guy was

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a huge defender of this deal today says that we

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>have the text, the deal is absolutely terrible. There's no

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>getting around it. The text gives Iran his huge immediate

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>financial benefits and in exchange the straight nothing else. There's

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>what he said on February eighteenth, twenty twenty six. You

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>do not have more insight into what America should do

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>visa vi irn than Donald Trump, jd Vance, Mark or

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Ruby and Pete Hegstath. You just don't let them cook.

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree, let them I agree, let them cook. Cross

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the plant? Am I right? You know that cross the plant?

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like pannican behavior.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Some people who are out there doing the trust the

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>plan though, like some like they're trying to imagine some

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 2>four D chess where you know, this all ends in

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and and look, it may be the case that we

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>end up going back to it, but it.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Won't be forty chess. It'll just be as real.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly exactly, but no, I mean, this has been

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>a consistent theme since the first Trump administration. Then I

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 2>remember hearing all about how, oh it's Kushner's fall, that

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you know Trump is doing X or Y or Z

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>that we don't want him to do. It reminds me

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>too of so John Pedorance is in total melt atys

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>human watermelon is and it's kind of it's very enjoyable

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>because he's telling the truth about something like he's saying.

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Things like, I don't know why we even went into

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 3>this word.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, me neither, why did we you know,

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>at the urging of idiots like you. But in any case,

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>he said this extraordinary thing about how he was like, look,

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>what this all comes down to is the truth of

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the matter is Trump is corrupt. And when he was

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>doing you know, the the Iran war and doing the

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 2>bigging of Israel, that wasn't because of his corruption.

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 3>That was his genuine view.

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>But now the corruption is taking hold, just completely ignoring

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>the whole Miriam Addelson of the situation, or the way

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that you know, whit Coffin, Kushner and the Trump family

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>are like completely invested in the entire region, et cetera.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>So but now now that he's doing something that Pudoritz

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>does not want him to do, now it's the corruption

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that's really driving the train. It really is incredible to see.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the jd Vance thing is significant politically

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>because in a sense, you know, I think that they

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 2>are correct to politically correct to hone in on JD

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Vance avoid the direct criticism of Trump because you know

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 2>howth and skinty is. And Trump himself said that, Hey,

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>if this deal doesn't work out, you know, I'm going

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 2>to blame I'm going to blame the vice president. I'm

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>going to say that it was all his fault. And

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>like many things that he uttered yesterday, I think on

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that he was telling the truth.

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's go ahead and take a listen.

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 6>Why not stick around for the signing ceremony with this

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 6>Iran piece deal?

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Might you might?

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I might, But I'd rather this is a memorandum

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 4>of understanding. It's very important, but it might not be

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 4>the kind of a document that I should be showing.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 6>There's some element to this where you send the vice president.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 6>If it works out, great, you look like a genius

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 6>for sending him, and if it doesn't work out, it's

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 6>the vice president.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 5>I like that idea.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Issue Well, this way, if it works out, I'm going

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 4>to take the credit. If it doesn't work out, I'm

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 4>blaming JD. You better be careful, JD. He should have

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 4>turned his plane around and get the hell out of here.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I like that idea. I think it's a good idea.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting to want to mark Rubus face throughout

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>this entire press gouference, by the way, But no, I

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>mean when it was war and Trump is threatening to

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 2>kill the entire civilization and all these sorts of things,

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Marco Rubio was very much on the you know, he

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 2>was on the upswing, and he was put out to

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the media and he was a lot of the public face.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Now that there's an attempt at this memo of understanding

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and negotiations towards a peace deal, jd Vance has been

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.760
<v Speaker 2>on like three thousand news programs.

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just briefing the press this morning.

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh is he And I just got a notification on

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>my phone that he did one.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 3>With Russ Dalzad. He was on with the Ladies at

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>the View, he was over Fox News.

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he really is being made the face of

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 2>this thing. And so I think there is some truth

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>to Trump's quip there that you know, oh, if this

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't go well, I'll just blame JD. Vance And I

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 2>think you know that will that will allow the neo

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>cons to attack the deal without getting into Trump's bad graces. Look,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a similar strategy to what Joe Kent employed.

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 2>You know where he was, but he tried, you know,

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>he went out of his way to be like, oh,

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the only person who could get us down of this

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 2>bind is the magnificent Donald Trump, you know. I mean

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he understood that Trump's ego is very very fragile, and

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>so if you're going to, you know, continue to have

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 2>any sort of standing with him, you have to protect

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the ego at all costs. And so they're doing their

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>version of that of well, who can we identify that

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 2>we can pick on who Also, by the way, you know,

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Ben Shapiro and JD. Vance have other ideological differences that

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Shapiro would you know, are happy, happy to go after JD.

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Vance and make him the potential fall guy if this

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 2>thing comes apart, which is very very well made.

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>This is part of the issue with Trump. He doesn't

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>want to actually take credit for anything. I mean he

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>literally says it out loud. So in some ways you

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>could just say, you know, like he literally said, He's like, well,

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't worry. If it works out, I'll take credit.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't, then I'll blame JD. I mean, I

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.439
<v Speaker 1>think JD has made the calculation. He's like, look, I'm

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be the face of this thing. Nobody else

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>will try to sell it. You know to the pre

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>ware you're gonna have rubios. Rubio went out and sold

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the war. How did that work out? It actually worked

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>out well for me because he's the only person who

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>told the truth. The day after the war. Remember, well,

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>we had to attack Iran because Israel was going to

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>attack them, and they were and there's nothing that we

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>could have done to stop them. So we went into

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the war because of Israel. He literally said it.

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 2>So, look, did you hear Hillary Clinton's comments? This is

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>which ones well there she said a lot, but she

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 2>said she said this thing about how oh Israel tried

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to get us into war with the Ran many times,

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and she said that they would literally tell them like

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 2>the planes are on the tarmac and they'd be like,

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 2>don't care.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 3>But because Trump.

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Is such a rube and he's got a bunch of

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 2>incompetent idiots around him, and because he ultimately wanted this

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>war and wanted to be talked into this, and was

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>very easily talked into it because of the idea of like, oh, sir,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>your legacy, you'll remake them middle least, you'll do what

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 2>no one else had the courage to do, etcetera, etcetera.

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 2>But in any case, when they did the whole like, oh,

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>we're about to go, he was like, all right, well,

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess we have to go. And that was the

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>final thing that pushed him over the edge, is what

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 2>it seems like happened.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look beyond all of you know, the stupidity

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of even getting into all of this in the first place.

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I do actually think this is very important. Let's go

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and put d B three up here on the screen.

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>This was Everyone should read this. The Israeli ultra hawks

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>who feel betrayed by Trump's Iran deal. Shimon Ricklin, an

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>anchor on the country's right wing channel fourteen and a

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Natsa nyathu ally ally thinks America stabbed Israel in the back.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I really recommend everybody go and actually read this thing

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to get into the deranged minds of the Israeli right wing.

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 1>But the important line there, which has a deep historical

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>parallel to the Versailles and the Memorandum of Understanding and

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the fourteen points, just like you know the fourteen points

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>by Wilson the Peace Plan, is the phrase stabbed in

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the back, because what is playing out right now is

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the exact same situation as the Germans of nineteen nine

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>team where the home front collapsed and they had to

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>surrender at the Treaty of Versailles, and they decided to

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>concoct this theory where it was the German people who

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 1>opposed the war from continuing because they were starving and

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>going through like revolution, that it was their fault that

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the Great Armed Forces ended up having to surrender. This

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>stab in the back theory obviously becomes intrinsic with Nazism.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>But in this case, the people who stabbed the Israelis

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>in the back are us, the Americans, because we don't

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>have the stomach for war, as they recently wrote. But

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>why is this so dangerous? Because for them they're going

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to construct this unhinged new reality which you can actually

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>read in here. And he goes, well, you know, the

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>blockade of the blockade was working, and if America had

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 1>just allowed our Kurdish militias to enter, then it would

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>have worked. He said, the IDF General staff told him

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>that there was an eighty percent chance of regime change

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>if we had just let these curve. I mean, this

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is the same durin shit that the Germans used to

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>say after the First World War. Oh if only we

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>had done this one more military for.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 3>The Vietnam vet endor. Yeah, they hit in the same

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>shit all the days.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Then we could have it all could have worked out,

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, but why is that so dangerous?

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Because when you don't reckon with reality what happens? Oh well,

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>we all know we're stabbed in the back when back

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>under Germany. But like the parallels here are exactly the same.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Where they cannot grapple with their own failure like they might.

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>They can only be failed. It's like the whole Trump

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 1>can't fail, it can only be failed. The Israelis can

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>never fail. They can only be failed in this case

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 1>by America. Go ahead and look. Trump's approval rating now

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>is minus twenty three in Israel. Three weeks ago it

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>was plus sixteen. What does that tell you? Right, they

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>want us to serve them, like that's the way that

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>they look at it. You can actually even read throughout

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>this entire.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Think about I mean, Trump has done everything everything they

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>truly like, they basically annexed, you know, parts of Syria,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>invaded and annexed parts of Lebanon. They have now sixty

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>to seventy percent of Gaza that they've annexed. You know,

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 2>he supported their genocide for a long time before we

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 2>got any sort of a deal there. The deal continues

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 2>to be a disaster in the Israelis are still allowed

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 2>to kill with impunity Palestinians, the West Bank rampaging. Even

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>the little bit of you know, settler sanctions that the

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Biden administration put on like four people.

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 3>The Trump ad.

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Michael, Oh, we can't do that, you know, We've got

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to let the violent terror settlers rampage throughout and do

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>whatever they want. He has done everything they want up

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 2>to and including starting this war, which was something that

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:31.479
<v Speaker 2>the Israeli public and NETNAHUO wanted very dearly. And now

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 2>they cannot handle the fact that this was a disaster.

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 2>It was not only a dramatic disaster and miscalculation by Trump,

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.479
<v Speaker 2>it was a dramatic disaster and mixed calculation by them

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 2>because all of their oh, it's going to regime is

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>going to collapse, and they're so weak, blah blah blah.

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>They were high on their own supply, the same way

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 2>that Trump was high on his own supply. With regards

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 2>to Venezuela, I want to read you this one section

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 2>and Shatner I don't know why anyone ever agrees to an.

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Interview with this guy.

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Which guy's is really so he does, I guess, I

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 2>They're very savvy about American medias. I'm not sure about that.

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>But unlike the domestic political context here where Shapiro and

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 2>others are going out of their way not to blame Trump,

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>he and the Israelis are very much putting the blame

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>on Trump, as they should, I guess, and Channer kind

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 2>of plays along with him in all of this and

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 2>all of his delusions. So in any case, Channer says,

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 2>putting aside the merits of this war? Do you think

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 2>people such as yourself and the Prime Minister misjudge Donald Trump?

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I know you said a joyful prayer on the air

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 2>when he was elected in twenty twenty four. You must

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>have had some sense of who this guy is, that

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 2>he isn't loyal to anyone, that he had no real

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>core values. The response, listen, I was really happy when

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>he was elected.

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I admit it.

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it was good for Israel, and in the

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 2>beginning it was. But today I don't know what to think.

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I am really in shock. Chattner goes on it's hard

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 2>to fathom again playing along with him. I don't have

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of moments like this. I don't remember someone

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>in modern history who would go with you and do

0:43:56.080 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>wonderful things and then suddenly disappear and go against you.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 2>So no, I'm the bad guy. I supported you, I

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 2>was the good guy. How did I become the bad guy?

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>And Iatola is the good guy? And then Shanna replies,

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 2>this is why I was wondering whether you had ever

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>observed Donald Trump?

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Did you know who you're dealing with here?

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, the man has no loyalties to anyone anything except

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.399
<v Speaker 2>what serves him right then, in that moment, and five

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 2>days from now, they may be cheering him again. You know,

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 2>they're negotiating over whether they continue to occupy and bomb

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>in Lebanon, and we'll see what happens with that.

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>We'll see what happens over.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>The next sixty days, whether his ego can handle the

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 2>damage that it's no doubt sustaining, as so many people

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 2>come out and say, hey, this is actually really it's.

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Not even that it's a bad deal. It is the

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 3>necessary deal.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 2>But clearly it acknowledges reality that we lost and they won.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Can he handle that. Can he sustain it?

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 2>So the same guy may be singing his praises again

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and thinking their besties again, you know, in a week's time.

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.839
<v Speaker 2>But pretty wild to see the level of delusion that

0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.959
<v Speaker 2>they had about who and what they were dealing.

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's look, they created in their own mythos and

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I think they really believed Neta Yahuu that he controlled

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump or that he was you know, had the

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>What did he say once behind closed door, He's like,

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly how to work the Americans. I mean,

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to his credit, he did. He actually did. I mean,

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you can't say that he didn't get almost ninety eight

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>percent of what he wanted. But as usual with these

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>rampaging lunatics is that they get what they want and

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it's working, and it's working, and it's working, and then

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>they go one dice, roll too many and oh seven

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>comes up on the table. And that's what happened here

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>with Iran, is they actually got everything that they wanted,

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>which is part of the why it's good because it

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>shows you that we be absent a ground invasion, we

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>threw everything we had at Iran and they still did

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>not buckle in the way that they wanted, so they

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>have nothing. That's why they need the stab in the

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>back theory. But again I really want I want to

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>emphasize that, you know, considering where history went after the

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Treaty of Versailles, at Trump signing the Versailles Memorandum, after

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>stab in the back, it can get very, very dangerous,

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.479
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you know, on JPod, I've been wanting

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to revisit this. Do you remember this from July four,

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five when Trump said the word shylock and

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>JPod said, Trump bombed Iran? He can say shylock one

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred times a day forever as far as I'm concerned.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.439
<v Speaker 1>So I just want to know, JPod, does Trump still

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have your permission to say that is my most practiced

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>shylock card of the day. Does he still have a

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>shylock card?

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 3>So beyond here that is.

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>An open questionable to the human watermelon, JPod.

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>One last thing I want to add in here, just

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 2>as we're thinking of how unhinged the Israelis are, how

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 2>existential this is for Netanyahu's political career, which I genuinely

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 2>think it is, and his political opponents are all challenging

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 2>him from the right, all saying like you were not

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 2>hawkish enough and you need to defy the Americans, that

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 2>we can't accept this weak status, as their clients state,

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 2>that's how they're all posturing. It's it's very popular with

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the Israel public. So I do think he is in deep,

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 2>deep political trouble. So I mean, what would he and

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 2>what would the state be willing to do in order

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 2>to you know, resecure his standing in order to go

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 2>back to war that he personally sees as being existential

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>for his political career, and I think the nation of

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Israel sees as being existential to their you know, their

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 2>construction as they are now their particular view of how

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, they can't possibly allow any rival, They can't

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 2>have anyone who could even theoretically challenge them, whether or

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 2>not they have intent to do them harm or not.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And in that vein, it was very unnerving to see

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Laura Lumer tweet that soon there will be a massive

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.399
<v Speaker 2>Islamic terror attack in America and the perpetrators will likely

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 2>have financial ties to podcasters and those who are sowing

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 2>discord for foreign nations in America. I predict there will

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>be many casualties. Only then will it may be set

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>in that people have been conned into supporting a terrorist

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 2>syop to distract you from the threat of Islam while

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the enemy plotted to destroy our country from within with

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 2>bottled conspiracy theories. It will likely be ten times worse

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 2>than nine to eleven. Glenn Greenwald quote treated this and said,

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 2>everyone understandably gets a bit nervous when an agent of

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Israel starts threatening, I mean predicting a major mass casualty

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.800
<v Speaker 2>terrorist attack in American soil just days after the American

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:19.799
<v Speaker 2>president announces a.

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Deal that enrages all of Israel.

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I wish that we could ignore the rantings of Laura Lumer,

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 2>who was a genuinely mentally unwell person, but unfortunately she

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 2>has influence, has been shown to have influence. You know,

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 2>she's been targeting trade to Parsi, and next thing you know,

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.919
<v Speaker 2>you get this fruit Press article saying that he's under

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:40.720
<v Speaker 2>investigation and being threatened with deportation. So unfortunately, we cannot

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 2>ignore the ravings of this lunatic, and we cannot ignore

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>what a dangerous situation and phase we're in right now

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 2>because of the Israel. For the Israelis, there are no

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 2>moral red lines because they are always inherently the good guys,

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and so anything they do in service of what they

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>see as their sense is inherently moral and just because

0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>they are good people, no matter what they do, their

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 2>actions have no bearing on the fact that they are

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the permanent victims and they are the permanent good guys.

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 2>So when you have a you know, bankrupts moral landscape

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 2>or a non existent moral landscape such as that, there

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 2>is nothing you can put off the table that they

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 2>would not try to, you know, for net nyahuo to

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:25.919
<v Speaker 2>preserve as political status and for them to be able

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 2>to preserve their ascendant dominance in the Middle East.

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, look, I don't count these people

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>out for a second. The lower lumor thing very dangerous.

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>The level of anger inside of Israel. I mean, I

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know how much you should take like the musings

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of various you know, random Israelis, like that's always a

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit dangerous. But if you take a look at

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>some of their telegram channels and things like there's some

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>unhinged stop I'm looking at one from this morning that said,

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 1>this is an anonymous telegram channel of a bunch of Israelis,

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and they said we will join the Iranians chant of

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>death to Americ right. I mean, two people have the means,

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity, the ability, and so maybe we should start

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:10.320
<v Speaker 1>worrying about sleeper cells, you know, in terms of sabage.

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Here's another headline from this one from the Times of Israel,

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 2>which is a more like right wing outlet nen Yahoo

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to lean on right wing pundits pro Israel senators to

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.399
<v Speaker 2>influence final Iran deal. This is PERCNN plans to use

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>pro Israel senators, the right wing media personalities to influence

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the terms of the final agreement. Believes a final deal

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 2>with Iran will be secured, but that Tehran will not

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 2>fulfill its obligations. Plans to use media figures like Fox

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 2>News is Mark Levin and pro Israel politicians to get

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:40.280
<v Speaker 2>his message across to Trump. So as you were watching,

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 2>you know Ted Cruz has been critical of the deal.

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Obviously Levin has been losing his mind as you're watching

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 2>these people, just remember they may have literally gotten a

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 2>call from net Nyahu telling them what to say, how

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to push, and how to try to manipulate the situation.

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Exactly right. All right, We've got a great guest standing by.

0:50:58.320 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Let's get to it.

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 2>So we now have the official terms in the Memo

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 2>of Understanding, so to dig more into those terms and

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>what they will mean going forward. We're very happy to

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>be joined for the first time by Muhammad Ali Shabani.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>He is the editor of m Watch Media. We've relied

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 2>on some of their reporting. They've had some fantastic scoops

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>over the course of this entire conflict, of course before

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 3>It's great to have you, sir.

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Good to see you, sir.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me.

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no problem.

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 2>So let's go ahead, guys and put this first element

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 2>up on the screen. This is some of your reporting

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>of the Iranian released version of the Memo of Understanding. Here,

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 2>just break down for us what you see as being

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>some of the most significant points as we move into

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the sixty day negotiation period.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think first and foremost, the most important thing

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 8>to keep in mind is basically that this is MU

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 8>is a Memoran and of understanding.

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 5>This is a framework, This is a world map.

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 8>This is not a finalized deal that needs to be

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 8>fully implemented for next ten years, right, So the most

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 8>important provision I think within this MoU is that it

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 8>provides for sixty days to come to a final deal,

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 8>as it's referred to within this document, and that sixty

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 8>day period can be extended by mutual consent. However, there

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:20.280
<v Speaker 8>is a kind of deadline here, and the big ticket

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 8>items such as how to resolve the future of the

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.280
<v Speaker 8>one nuclear program, those kinds of things have been mostly

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:29.719
<v Speaker 8>pushed back, and so it's going to be difficult next

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 8>two months ahead, and we don't know. They may need

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 8>more time, they may need less time, and they may

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 8>also come to the conclusion that a deal isn't to

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 8>be had. And already we're seeing a lot of people

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 8>in Israel in particular.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, there are two camps.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 8>One camp is very much outraged about this MoU and

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 8>the other camp is very relaxed, saying essentially they're not

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 8>going to have a final deal. So, if I were

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 8>to outline anything that's very important about this MoU is

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 8>the number one. It's not a final deal. In outlines

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.720
<v Speaker 8>sixty days for negotiations on things like the nuclear program.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 8>But apart from that, the provisions within the MoU which

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 8>have starred a lot of I think contention, include things

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 8>like the extent of the Iran USC squire. So this

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 8>is a document between Iran and the United States. There

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 8>are no other signatories to this apart from Pakistan as

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:21.240
<v Speaker 8>the mediator, and it does say essentially that this truth

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 8>or this secession of hostilities extends to their allies, their

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 8>respective allies in this war. And that's very important because

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 8>that means essentially Israel is a party to this document,

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 8>even though Israel hasn't been in the negotiations. Israel didn't

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.399
<v Speaker 8>signed this. And one of the provisions in paragraph one,

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 8>for instance, is that Lebanon's territorial integrity and sovereignty must

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 8>be ensured and that for instance, fighting extends to for

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 8>instance Lebanon as well. And this is going to be

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 8>one big test I think for this for this MU

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 8>one of the initial tests, which is is Israel is

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.200
<v Speaker 8>going to adhere to paragraph one right, it can argue that,

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 8>for instance, that this still had nothing to do with this, Well,

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 8>then sign this document and we're not going to put

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 8>up with it. And that's going to be a big

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 8>problem for Trump. I think how is he going to

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 8>deal with that, especially with the domestic political firestorm it's

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 8>facing right for having agreed to someone. So that's just

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 8>one of the many points that I would I would fate.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good point. By the way, this morning, you know

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Israeli media Netta Noa who says we are not bound

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>by the agreement, So you know that doesn't exactly take

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a genius to see that one coming. Can we put

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to us C three where we have the draft compared

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to the final image up here on the screen, because

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of interesting flags that we have here,

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>our producers created this graphic where in the original draft

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>they actually added an explicit pledge to protect Lebanese sovereignty.

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>In Article four, they said that the US will only

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>begin removal at signing and will fully end the blockade

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 1>at a thirty day deadline. In Article five they explicitly

0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 1>added a line where they said that free passage will

0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 1>resume only for sixty days under the memorandum of understanding,

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 1>which open up the door to charging tolls through the

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 1>strait of horm moves between Iran and Oman. In article

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>seven they write about sanctions, it adds a mutual pledge

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to quote immediately address the sanctions issue once talks start.

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.399
<v Speaker 1>And then Article eight, perhaps the most important, they say

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a same reaffirmation, but now specifically a minimum method of

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:24.320
<v Speaker 1>on site down blending under IAEA supervision of enrichment talks

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 1>added to what do you make of these concessions given

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<v Speaker 1>obviously by the United States, you know, at the last

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>minute in the final memorandum understanding compared to the draft

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>which had been released some twenty four hours earlier.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know, we reported a couple of days ago

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 8>on this provision and paragraph one that got to do

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:47.360
<v Speaker 8>with Lebanon specifically, it's about the again ensuring the territorial

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 8>integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon, and the Aeian side kind

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 8>of insisted that they had managed to get that language

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 8>in there as a direct result of the Israeli a

0:55:57.000 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 8>tackle on Babe. So just as a kind of quick backdrop,

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 8>IWON had put out a redline saying that an Israeli

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.720
<v Speaker 8>attack on the Lebanese capital would warrant a direct response

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 8>from Iran against Israel, this kind of triangular pattern, and

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 8>I think just when the US and Evan were on

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 8>the cusp of signing this MoU the Israeli's launched this

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 8>attack on Baby, probably calculating, probably knowing that IWON is

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 8>going to hit back, and Iran that night was loading

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 8>its missiles the launchers were being loaded, and it was

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:30.959
<v Speaker 8>on that level apparently, and they managed through the direct

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.240
<v Speaker 8>interventional Trump a number of concessions by the United States

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 8>come to an agreement and they did not fire anything

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 8>at Israel that night. So that kind of gambit by

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 8>Netanyah who seems to have backfired in the sense that

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 8>some of these concessions that you outlined, including Lebanon specifically,

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 8>appear to have been a direct result of this kind

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.399
<v Speaker 8>of gambit by Nathania. We're trying to god One into

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 8>attacking and then for him to then strike back at

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 8>Evan obviously, get that dynamic going and kind of try

0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 8>to derail Evan US diplomatic That's the kind of essence

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 8>of of the dynamic there. I think another thing he

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.239
<v Speaker 8>attempted with that operation by hitting Baby was to say,

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 8>especially what he's doing now that hisbolizes for US a

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.800
<v Speaker 8>national security issue has got nothing to do with the

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 8>United States, where anything he signed with he wants is

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 8>not going to apply to us. We're not going to

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 8>pay attention to that. And you know, he has a

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 8>right to do that, he's a leader of Israel in

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 8>a leader of different country, But then he needs to

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 8>also accept that there's going to be costs for that.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 8>You know, Israel's ability to fight this war realized a

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 8>lot in the United States. If he doesn't want the

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 8>US involved in any kind of diplomacy to do with

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 8>Israel or the region, then you know it'd be difficult

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 8>for him to argue, then you need to give me

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 8>all the possible support, political support, military support, having actual

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 8>US forces stations inside Israel, operating missile defense, et cetera.

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 5>Things like that.

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 8>So it's putting him in an awkward position. And having

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:51.760
<v Speaker 8>said that, I think what we need to really keep

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 8>in mind again, I hate to be repetitive that this

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 8>is MoU It's not a final deal. There are a

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 8>lot of negotiations ahead. There are a lot of heated

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 8>reactions right now to a lot of the provisions in there. Well,

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 8>we need to just try to keep in mind again,

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 8>is that this story, this episode, about how this language

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 8>about Lebanon was inserted there. It holds an important lesson

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 8>that maybe on the previous few US administrations, Israel was

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:20.919
<v Speaker 8>quite a depth playing the White House, frankly, to try

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 8>to kind of threaten something and get something out of them,

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 8>And now he Wan's kind of doing the opposite, right.

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 8>And it's interesting that just yesterday, i think the day before,

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 8>Hillary Clinton went out and essentially said that the Israeli

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 8>is doing her term as secretary, saying, you know, they

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 8>used to do this kind of stuff all the time,

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 8>saying that we're going to attack yourn we have planes

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 8>on the tarmac, and she would just say, you know,

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 8>you guys, go ahead. And it'd be interesting if, you know,

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 8>you know, if Trump would were to do the same

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 8>thing now after this incident in Babut, if natanyaw is

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 8>to say, no, I don't care what you guys gonna do.

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna go ahead and bombay route. And what if

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 8>Trump just says, go ahead.

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, be our guest. Yeah, make sure you have some

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>bad missiles too, to shoot down some missiles. Whenever the

0:58:58.160 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 1>time comes. We wish you the.

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 5>Best of luck.

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Lingering on Lebanon here for a moment, and the first

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>provision where this language about quote ensuring the territorial integrity

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and sovereignty of Lebanon appears in the final draft. It

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't appear in the earlier draft that was leaked to

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 2>American media outlets. Do the Iranians you think interpret that

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 2>as a demand for the IDEF not only to stop

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:27.200
<v Speaker 2>bombing and attacking, but also to fully withdraw from southern Lebanon.

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 5>So we have.

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<v Speaker 8>Reports saying that as Bulla apparently has been informed by

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 8>the audience that a final deals again keep in mind,

0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 8>is not the This is not the final deal, don

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 8>or the final deal with the United States will entail

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 8>Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon.

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 5>And that's where.

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 8>The language about territorial integrity and sovereignty come in. You

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 8>can't have sovereignty with foreign forces on your soil. That's

0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 8>not sovereignty. Sovereignty literally is defined as monopoly on violence

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 8>within your boundaries, your territorial boundaries. Right, So I think

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 8>that's the that's the kind of long term gain, that's

1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 8>what they're looking at down the line. Again, we don't

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 8>know how long these negotiations on the final deal are

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:10.200
<v Speaker 8>going to continue. We know there's a sixty day period,

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:14.600
<v Speaker 8>but it says extendable by mutual consent, right, so we

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:16.920
<v Speaker 8>don't have a clear timeline. What we do know is

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 8>that the endgame is Israel needs to leave Lebanon. And

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<v Speaker 8>you know, frankly, I'm not sure whether that's against Israeli interests.

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<v Speaker 8>Israel spent eighteen years in Lebanon until the early two thousands,

1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:29.360
<v Speaker 8>you know, and I don't think they want to stay

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<v Speaker 8>in there. There's not really much for them there. They're

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.160
<v Speaker 8>just exposed right now. They're facing a lot of difficulties

1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:37.320
<v Speaker 8>with things like these new drums that has Boloized firing

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<v Speaker 8>at them on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a good situation.

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<v Speaker 8>I think for Israel it's much more How can I

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 8>put this advantageous to find Larnche air strikes, et cetera

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 8>from behind the border? Right, they can do that, they

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:54.120
<v Speaker 8>can continue doing that, but having forces on underground puts

1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:57.120
<v Speaker 8>them at great vulnerability, a lot of political risk and

1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 8>direct confrontation with.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States.

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<v Speaker 1>You're assuming they think rationally, well, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Gives them of your segre, It gives them kind of

1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:06.479
<v Speaker 2>an excuse to retreat without it being labeled as such.

1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 2>All the Americans are forcing us into it. But to

1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:12.360
<v Speaker 2>your point, they've been sustaining significant losses in Lebanon, much

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<v Speaker 2>more so than what they were expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mohammed, I do want to get your reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>C four. We can put it up here on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious from your perspective, whenever you're talking with international sources.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the United States, we are already watching a

1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 1>deep state effort to try in torpedo elements of the

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:33.360
<v Speaker 1>memorandum understanding and an eventual deal. So recently, the State

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<v Speaker 1>Department actually told Congress that Iran's oil exports are quote

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<v Speaker 1>a primary revenue source for terrorism financing, which is hours

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<v Speaker 1>after the US and Iran signed the memorandum that included

1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:47.960
<v Speaker 1>oil sanctions relief, and Trump is downplaying Iran's behavior. The

1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:51.120
<v Speaker 1>reason why this matters is if by reporting that they

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<v Speaker 1>actually are making themselves subject to congressional review if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to try and take some sanctions off, and their

1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:01.600
<v Speaker 1>significant domestic elements here in the US, specifically headed by

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Mark or Rubio here obviously, which could easily technically derail

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<v Speaker 1>the details. What I'm curious for you is how do

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the Iranians see the actual capability of getting across a

1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:14.280
<v Speaker 1>finish line, as well as some of the other regional

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<v Speaker 1>sources that you've spoken to.

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<v Speaker 8>So Iran, I think the way it approaches things like

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<v Speaker 8>sanctions relief is that it will rely heavily on waivers

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<v Speaker 8>or presidential waivers.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's the way they look at things.

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<v Speaker 8>Ultimately they understand that Congress is going to be difficult,

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<v Speaker 8>and then that prior to November, Trump can push things through,

1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:34.960
<v Speaker 8>but after November it's going to be much more difficult.

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<v Speaker 8>And we're seeing one layer to that in the reactions

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<v Speaker 8>to this MoU by the Democrats who have opposed this war,

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<v Speaker 8>but now that there's an actual cessation of hostilities, now

1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:47.120
<v Speaker 8>that there's actual document to find a way out of

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<v Speaker 8>this conflict, they're among the loudest voices were opposed to

1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:54.479
<v Speaker 8>this document, you know, screaming that Trump is handing over

1:02:54.920 --> 1:02:57.080
<v Speaker 8>X and Y, et cetera. So that's kind of giving

1:02:57.120 --> 1:03:00.440
<v Speaker 8>us a sense of Congressional action is going to be difficult,

1:03:00.560 --> 1:03:03.080
<v Speaker 8>and sooner you get it done, the better. But the

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<v Speaker 8>first and foremost is reliance on presidential waivers to kind

1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:07.720
<v Speaker 8>of get a lot of these sanctions really through. But

1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:12.040
<v Speaker 8>I think zooming out further, the number one calculation I

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<v Speaker 8>think on the part of you one is if we

1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:18.040
<v Speaker 8>manage to get a deal that is implemented, that's a win.

1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:20.800
<v Speaker 8>If we don't manage to get a deal because of

1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.840
<v Speaker 8>subterfuge or what have you. On the part of the

1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:25.240
<v Speaker 8>United States, that's also a win because we managed to

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<v Speaker 8>make clear to our own.

1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:29.360
<v Speaker 5>People that we're not the problem here. Right, So in.

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<v Speaker 8>Case there is a resumption of hoscilities, then they're going

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<v Speaker 8>to basically be able to count on popular support that

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<v Speaker 8>they wouldn't if it became quite clear that they're not

1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:40.480
<v Speaker 8>being rational they don't want a negotiated solution to do

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<v Speaker 8>all of this, etc. So I think the way they're

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<v Speaker 8>approaching sanctions relief is it's a win win. We get it,

1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:47.640
<v Speaker 8>we win if we don't get it because of us

1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:50.560
<v Speaker 8>inaction or what when domestic politics has also a win

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<v Speaker 8>for us. It just shows we can make a deal

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<v Speaker 8>with the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you see as the most difficult sticking points

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<v Speaker 2>over the next sixty days in terms of secure a

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<v Speaker 2>final deal?

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<v Speaker 8>So, I mean there are some It's quite interesting. So

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<v Speaker 8>on Trump's marks rest yesterday, he was quite honest for

1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:09.000
<v Speaker 8>the first time. I think he was just saying things like,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, you can't tell you onan not to have

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<v Speaker 8>any kind of nuclear program and then its neighbors have

1:04:14.200 --> 1:04:16.760
<v Speaker 8>it and missiles and these kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's going to be.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of pushing pull about the details of things

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<v Speaker 8>like the enrichment, the uranium enrichment. I think that can

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<v Speaker 8>be solved. They had a solution prior to this war,

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<v Speaker 8>which was basically for Youwan to engage in an international

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<v Speaker 8>constortium on its soil with a bunch of its neighbors,

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<v Speaker 8>to basically have a multinational operation going to make sure

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<v Speaker 8>that there's maximum transparency there's going to be any kind

1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:42.640
<v Speaker 8>of diversion of the nuclear program for weaponization. I think

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<v Speaker 8>there's a solution for that. I think when you look

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<v Speaker 8>at things like terrorism financing, of course there's a domestic

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<v Speaker 8>political element to it that has to do with sanctions really,

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<v Speaker 8>but I think another element to it is an attempt

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<v Speaker 8>to shape the framework of these negotiations. If you look

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<v Speaker 8>at the MU, there are a couple of things in

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<v Speaker 8>which stand out in terms of their missing.

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<v Speaker 5>Number one is missiles.

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<v Speaker 8>Number two is this kind of Ewan's region Alliance network.

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<v Speaker 5>How it's going to approach that.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think in these negotiations we're going to possibly

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<v Speaker 8>see some attempts to put these things on a gender.

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<v Speaker 8>But again, it's quite confusing because Trump is so openly

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<v Speaker 8>now going out and saying that, you know, Iran has

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<v Speaker 8>to be able to defend itself. We can't have a

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<v Speaker 8>situation with Ivan whereby he can't defend itself. And here

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to see the influence and possibly even the

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<v Speaker 8>limits of what Israel and it's kind of allies in

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<v Speaker 8>Washington can achieve because we understand that prior to this war,

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<v Speaker 8>there was a lot of talk about the nuclear program

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<v Speaker 8>being an imminent threat. And as soon as the war

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<v Speaker 8>had begun and things started going wrong, we saw it.

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<v Speaker 8>Onao go out and say, well, hold on, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>the nuclear issue. In fact, it was the missiles that

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<v Speaker 8>Evan had X amount of missiles that we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>fight at uts, which would be the.

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<v Speaker 5>Equivalent of a nuclear bond. Right.

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<v Speaker 8>And now that Ewan has had this war and it's

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<v Speaker 8>found that missiles are basically its only real means of

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<v Speaker 8>determines and defense, they're not going to give them up.

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<v Speaker 5>So is that going to be the.

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<v Speaker 8>Achilles Heel of these kinds of negotiations.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know. We're going to find out in the

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<v Speaker 5>next sixty days or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the fact Trump says something today doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you won't say something different tomorrow. We've seen these Raelies

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<v Speaker 2>in the past be successful at incerting new red lines

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<v Speaker 2>into negotiations that end up being poison pills, So that

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<v Speaker 2>certainly is a possibility. I'm curious. Just lastly for me,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned that there's one camp of Israelis that are

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<v Speaker 2>really freaking out. We've shared some of their commentary on

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<v Speaker 2>this show, so our audience will be very familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>that viewpoint. You said, there's another faction that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>relaxed because they're like, heh, that's never going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a deal, don't worry about it. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>going back to war. It's going to be fine. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think is giving them that confidence?

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<v Speaker 8>I think, based on what I've read the people in

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<v Speaker 8>the security circles and intelligence, they're essentially saying that their

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<v Speaker 8>read of you want, their understanding of you want is

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<v Speaker 8>that these bottom lines they have on things like the

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<v Speaker 8>nuclear on things like the regional policies such as the

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<v Speaker 8>also the missile program, they're not going to budge on them. Fundamentally,

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<v Speaker 8>these are points that they've been quite stubborn on for

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<v Speaker 8>the past twenty years. They may be right, they may

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<v Speaker 8>also be wrong because there's been one big change in

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<v Speaker 8>you won because we've changed from one fomb and a

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<v Speaker 8>to another. Right, there has been a regime change, just

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<v Speaker 8>not the kind of regime change that the United States

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<v Speaker 8>and Israel may have liked.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So we don't.

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<v Speaker 8>Know what this new leadership, how pragmatic they may be

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<v Speaker 8>on things like the nuclear issue, things like the regional

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<v Speaker 8>alliance networks.

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<v Speaker 5>We have no idea. So I think this is a

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a black box right now.

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<v Speaker 8>And again we're just going to have to wait and

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<v Speaker 8>see and time will tell to what extent you want

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<v Speaker 8>in the United States can be flexible in the relations.

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<v Speaker 8>What we do know is that the former supreme leader

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<v Speaker 8>of you want aye six year old Alifamina, he was

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<v Speaker 8>quite stringent on certain things and now he's gone and

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<v Speaker 8>we don't know how he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottom line may have changed. Right, really really good point. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Mom and SOT sightful. Thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me