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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 3: Thanks take Vloti. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 3: R and B ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank.

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Speaker 3: This mm hmm. This is the R and B Money Podcast.

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Speaker 4: The authority on all things R and B all all inclusive.

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Speaker 3: R and B is worldwide.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: Uh that's why they stay. They basically gotta lookt their name.

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Speaker 4: Man, that says today is Usher Janet see Billy Race.

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Speaker 3: It's not a kid almost blind tall, make some noise.

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Speaker 6: I need that audio clip after. By the way, your

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Speaker 6: Spanish is better than ours.

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Speaker 3: Bro. Listen, bro, thank you man, Thank you man.

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Speaker 4: We we do this in passing, but you know, to actually,

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Speaker 4: you know, get into space and sit down man and

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Speaker 4: have these cool conversations.

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Speaker 1: This man, this is laid out off.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at the crib.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 7: I have to dress it up like I was kind

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Speaker 7: of rich too, was.

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Speaker 4: Coming what I'm saying, Yeah, Man, thank you man. We

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Speaker 4: can't thank you enough man for giving us your time.

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Speaker 3: Man. It's beautiful and.

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Speaker 4: You we have so much ground to cover man with

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Speaker 4: you guys, it's been thirty plus years.

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Speaker 3: Of success. Ship exactly.

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Speaker 1: Tomato can man.

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Speaker 3: What like where do we start, Valentine, like, what where

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Speaker 3: do we go? Man?

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Speaker 8: I think we I think we go to I think

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Speaker 8: we probably start with popstart where it starts. I mean,

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Speaker 8: man like, y'all gotta y'all gotta give us, give us,

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Speaker 8: give us the lay of the lamb. Man about how

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Speaker 8: this thing works and how you know, two Latin brothers

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Speaker 8: get into this R and B thing, and and just

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Speaker 8: you know, the journey and the challenges of you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean, because it's not like y'all were making

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Speaker 8: Spanish music or Latin music, or y'all was making R

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Speaker 8: and B music.

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Speaker 1: That was what was in the house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, start there, we'll talk about the house. Give me

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Speaker 3: the house. You know.

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Speaker 6: Pops was the interest thing with pas Man is you know,

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Speaker 6: he was a musician, played keys, and.

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Speaker 3: You know he was he.

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Speaker 6: Was a mediocre player, but he was the guy that

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Speaker 6: had the equipment, He had the gigs, he had the relationships.

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Speaker 6: So he knew that he can put himself and dress

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Speaker 6: himself up around great musicians because they all needed the gig, right.

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Speaker 1: So he was that dude.

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Speaker 6: He was like, I'm gonna be in the band. Y'all

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Speaker 6: would be great, but I'm gonna have the relationships. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna have the gigs, I'm gonna have the work, and

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Speaker 6: that's what it was. And so we were always around

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Speaker 6: musicians in the crib, and you know, it was black

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Speaker 6: music twenty four to seven in our crib. There wasn't

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Speaker 6: anything else. It was earth Wind and Fire, Chaka Khan,

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Speaker 6: it was Donnie, it was every.

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Speaker 1: All of that.

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Speaker 6: So that's what that's what we inherited. You know that

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Speaker 6: that became a part of our DNA. And you know

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Speaker 6: as kids, you know, they would rehearse it in the garage,

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Speaker 6: and our rooms are right next to the garage, and

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Speaker 6: so like, you know, we're trying to go to Bedford

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Speaker 6: sleep man, we can't sleep there.

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Speaker 5: And there jamming.

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Speaker 6: So Pos would have us go in the garage and

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Speaker 6: just naturally he go sit by the keyboard player and

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Speaker 1: By the drummer. And that was like.

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Speaker 6: Kind of how it got going. For every night, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: every night them rehearsal. My dad would sneak us into

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Speaker 6: their clubs at the gig and he'd make us, he'd

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Speaker 6: make us get up there and play on their break.

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Speaker 1: Get your ass you'll play, you know, So you know,

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Speaker 1: he just he had a vision.

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Speaker 6: Man, he saw something that he wanted to instill in

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Speaker 6: us and just push at all costs, you know. And

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Speaker 6: he was crazy and he was crazy as hell, and

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Speaker 6: you know he had a man. He had an extreme

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Speaker 6: tough life. I mean we talk about this, you know,

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Speaker 6: look back and say, you know what, Pops, however you

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Speaker 3: Without music in our lives, of course, you know.

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Speaker 6: So there's a call, there's a there's something to be

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Speaker 6: said about that type of iron fist that that exists

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Speaker 6: at that time, in that era, because now you see,

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Speaker 6: you see like a lack of it, and we nurture

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Speaker 6: in punks, now, you know what I'm saying. So there's

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Speaker 6: something to be said about that dynamic man. And that's

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Speaker 6: I think his heart upbringing is what allowed us to

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Speaker 6: weather the many storms.

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Speaker 3: That we were going to get ready to compass through

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Speaker 3: our journey.

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Speaker 1: It takes crazy, you gotta be crazy.

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Speaker 5: It takes crazy to make it in this thing.

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Speaker 8: It really does, man, because there is there's no truly,

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Speaker 8: there's no real formal anything, and we're grabbing things out

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Speaker 8: of the air that we hope that someone else likes.

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Speaker 9: Yes, you know, well, you know we talk about like

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Speaker 9: you can't just wake up and say I'm a doctor

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Speaker 7: You have to have a degree.

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Speaker 9: Yes, for some reason in our craft, you could just

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Speaker 9: wake up like I'm a producer.

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Speaker 1: I got this laptop, my.

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Speaker 3: Record labels up.

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't make the NFL.

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Speaker 9: It's like we talked like, you know, no, you're not

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Speaker 9: a producer, you know, a reducer, like learn your craft

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Speaker 9: and the thing is in the game, you know, the

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Speaker 9: last thing you did get you to the you know yours,

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Speaker 9: yours only as good as your last Yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 9: but how to you even get there?

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Speaker 6: But I think to looking at you know, my dad's

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Speaker 6: appetite for having this vision that he had with his kids,

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Speaker 6: you know, and pushing especially Bob, pushing Bob to where

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Speaker 6: you know, Bob's twelve years old and you know, get

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Speaker 6: signed to RCA. You know, it's just that was through

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Speaker 6: my pops, just the way he was chiseling that rock.

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Speaker 1: There was no over Pops.

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Speaker 6: We just want to go outside and hang with with

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Speaker 6: the fellas, play some street football. No no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: that's it. Don't mean done here. You get in there

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Speaker 6: and and you practice, and you work and you work

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Speaker 6: mentality is what has really throughout the years kept us

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Speaker 6: because I just you know, where were kids at?

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Speaker 3: Man, It's like, where were you?

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Speaker 6: We don't real to like location, yeah, real to California.

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Speaker 4: So it's like because I'm just like listening to the

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Speaker 4: parallel between y'all.

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Speaker 8: This guy like Bobby was Rome, this one was Spanish.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, same mentality, but had that drive and that hunger

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like that, you know, it just drove greatness.

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Speaker 9: And it's like my dad had such an appetite to

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Speaker 9: be that guy. It's like I'm gonna, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 9: them do it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna live through them.

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Speaker 9: And that's you know, that's that generation's mentality, like at.

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Speaker 6: All costs if it don't have it for me, and

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Speaker 6: nothing else matters, you know, And that was the thing

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Speaker 6: I think too with him because my pops he you know,

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Speaker 6: how how much we would just want to be kids

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Speaker 6: too sometimes.

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Speaker 1: And he was like no.

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Speaker 7: Closet, you know. He was relentless.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and you know, nothing was shaken his

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And I think to one essential component to us was

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Speaker 9: my dad's like best friend and he came from Andre

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Speaker 9: Crouching the Disciples. His name was James Felix, and he

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Speaker 9: too was Mexican and he was from our area.

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Speaker 1: Man, the illness Mexican was so you'll ever.

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Speaker 3: Hear crazy.

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Speaker 7: His voice and he was he was.

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Speaker 9: A bass player for damn there, Donnie, Like wow, like

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Speaker 9: that heart, that vibrato, all of that that just that

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Speaker 9: gear and so like they were listening to Steely Dan,

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Speaker 9: total total bunch of fusion Weather Report. So we were

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Speaker 9: growing up to like this is another day, well done,

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Speaker 9: we expect you. So all of that music naturally just

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Speaker 9: it just was embedded in us. So you know, with

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Speaker 9: my Pops and having that guy that really got me

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Speaker 9: to want to explore singing, writing and producing, And for

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Speaker 7: So I was like running sub twelve hundred.

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Speaker 1: We got we got videos.

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Speaker 6: We got videos of Bobby when he was like five

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Speaker 6: and he's literally playing like chick corea. You know that

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Speaker 6: that's how, that's how, that's how intense it was in

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Speaker 6: our household with just being around great musicians. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's like that's what we got to absorb. You know,

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Speaker 6: when you're little man, you absorb things like this.

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Speaker 3: For some strange.

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Speaker 5: Reason really because you don't have nothing else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: It's like it's like you're you're you're an open hard

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Speaker 6: drive at that time, and you're just information is coming

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Speaker 6: in and you're I mean, Bob was like a you know,

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Speaker 6: he was a genius. You know, he was doing beta

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Speaker 6: testing videos and then you know, I mean, god is deal.

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you get there?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 8: Like I get you know, from the family band, your

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Speaker 8: father being in the industry, and you guys being around

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Speaker 8: all these musicians, But how do you get to the

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Speaker 8: point where it's like, Okay, we've identified that we're going

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Speaker 8: after a deal for Bobby.

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Speaker 5: Because that's that's literally what happens, you know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean my dad partnered up with the guy

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Speaker 9: that he knew through my uncle, and this dude was

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Speaker 9: like synonymous with like right and we wear short shorts.

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Speaker 9: So my dad did a whole thing, like you know,

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Speaker 9: and he was like, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna get

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Speaker 9: him in a better studio.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna do X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 9: So at the time, he knew Jerome Gasper who was

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Speaker 9: running A and M Records, and Jerome was didn't know

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Speaker 9: if he was going to be there or not, but

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Speaker 9: he said, look, I'll give you guys a time in

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Speaker 9: Studio A and you guys know at A and M.

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Speaker 7: Come up with the demo.

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Speaker 9: So we did, and he ended up leaving and they

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Speaker 9: brought in John McClain, so A and M was not

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Speaker 9: an option. So I had this demo and it got

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Speaker 9: in the hands of Skip Miller RCA Records, who ran

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Speaker 9: Department Department, and then Zach Voss who ran Motown. So man,

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Speaker 7: I went to school.

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Speaker 9: My best friend asked me to walk home with him

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Speaker 7: Who was this girl?

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Speaker 8: He was a he was a young boy, like y'all yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm never gonna make it with my dad and my

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Speaker 9: I don't even remember running. I just it was such

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Speaker 7: That's how you like me?

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Speaker 9: Now, that's Teddy Riley And I was like a massive

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Speaker 9: And it was crazy.

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Speaker 7: That was that was like.

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Speaker 1: That was the real, Like, Okay, here comes this journey.

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Speaker 9: You know, wheel was up and yeah it started there.

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Speaker 4: So you got records, Yeah, yeah, you got singles out, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You're cooking.

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Speaker 7: I was cooking.

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Speaker 9: It was cooking with some gas and you're going on

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Speaker 1: The biggest group at the time. You know, I'm over

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Speaker 6: I'm working with all the cats in the streets, like,

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Speaker 6: my dad see that. But that was the pedigree of

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Speaker 1: So all of that was just being dumped into us.

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Speaker 6: So you know, we had, you know, public enemy in

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Speaker 6: how do we infuse this?

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Speaker 1: We got to put a show together.

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Speaker 6: We werehearsing in the backyard, like saying, you know all

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: So by the time we got on the New Kids

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Speaker 8: I got a question though, because I know what I

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Speaker 8: far as like you personally?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was a big body.

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Speaker 7: You said it right.

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Speaker 9: Well, when I when I was eighteen I had a

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, let's go back to no Oka.

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Speaker 10: But it was.

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Speaker 7: Only nine thousand. So what I got was keep doing

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Speaker 7: what you're doing, right.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's a good question.

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Speaker 6: That's a good question though, So let's let's talk about

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Speaker 6: let's let's lift up the hood on that, all right.

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Speaker 6: So there, you know, when you got a parent who's

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Speaker 6: the game of how you're supposed to construct that cooglar.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, so you just think, well, we're family, Okay,

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Speaker 6: you're growing up. I'm taking care of you. It all

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Speaker 6: Oh you need some nights, all right, let's go get

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Speaker 11: It's and possibly and got himself a beamer, like let's be.

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Speaker 3: Free because I had a record. But check this out.

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Speaker 1: And then the parents rebuttal is, But.

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Speaker 3: We went on vacations.

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Speaker 1: We you know, we we did nice things.

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Speaker 6: It's like okay, but yeah, like I should be building

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Speaker 1: So when I get to eighteen, I could go get.

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Speaker 7: It anything like, because I love gear.

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Speaker 9: Right, So if anything he gave me, he provided one

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Speaker 9: my diab, I don't even know what they are. I

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Speaker 8: Girl, you're not in school anymore at this point. No,

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Speaker 8: I'm from both of you homeschool now, both school.

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Speaker 9: And my pops was crazy, man, I mean he was.

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Speaker 7: It was toxic in the house.

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Speaker 6: And you know it's crazy crazy as crazy as crazy

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Speaker 6: as he was. I mean, my pops snock dudes out.

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Speaker 6: My dad is only five six.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I can see that, I understand.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but when we were little, he was like

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, energy any anything under five sabbing type, right,

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Speaker 8: It's not a type of survival in their minds. Absolutely

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Speaker 8: Now you start chilling a little bit, like okay, because because.

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Speaker 4: Of your science matters under five nine.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, niggas.

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Speaker 4: Alone, they've already calculated their disadvantage long ago.

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Speaker 3: So they're going they walk around.

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Speaker 5: What I'm sick of this.

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Speaker 7: I wish he would.

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Speaker 3: They're going for to kill early. You.

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Speaker 1: You ain't gonna say no to me, dangerous.

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Speaker 9: You can't tea size, right, so the size is like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 9: pour all of that into us.

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Speaker 3: You know. So you.

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Speaker 5: New kids on the block.

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Speaker 6: Cheeks everywhere, guys cheeks everywhere, all of them, they all

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Speaker 9: Man, I see my baby and my my teddies light

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Speaker 7: To have he had first, he had had to have it.

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Speaker 9: I was talking to prostitutes on Broadway in New York like,

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Speaker 6: I was like, but yeah, he said, come here, what

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Speaker 6: you need but you know, one of the gyms that

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure, stay focused.

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Speaker 9: So the Empires built.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know in a sense that that really

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Speaker 1: You know, we just heads down, man, you know.

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Speaker 3: In the studio instead, you know, except when you was talking.

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Speaker 7: To the Yeah, you know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Many how many cities did you'll do that?

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Speaker 3: We went?

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Speaker 9: We ran through the states, every city and then the

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Speaker 9: It was different, like, you know, record reps would have

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Speaker 9: H you they are trying to get some ass and

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Speaker 9: and that's how they built. Oh he's brewing in Philly,

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Speaker 9: but he's brewing in Houston's. And they go go to

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Speaker 9: the record stores. You know, they're buying everything, like there's

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Speaker 1: I never forget being in the hood.

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Speaker 6: And Nike drops off boxes for us, and we had

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Speaker 6: As a kid, bro, you're saying, you know, yeah, they

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Speaker 9: Start experiencing the New York Nelson Man as you say that,

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Speaker 9: Like New York Cus was one of my favorite Drakes

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Speaker 9: Man case is like crates of that stuff.

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Speaker 7: Oh BK is coming out again.

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Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, finish.

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Speaker 7: It's like, hey, we made it right, we made.

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Speaker 8: So what were the what were the challenges though? It's

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Speaker 5: Latin urban department.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for Bobby at that time, it was

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Speaker 1: Right, who's Mexican, who's doing black music? What is he?

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Speaker 1: Where does he go? Where do we put him in?

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Speaker 1: What's familiar?

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Speaker 6: So you know, it was it was that was always

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Speaker 8: Even though you know, like you said, you know, y'all

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Speaker 8: him on a new addition tour.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they were trying to figure out that that high

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Speaker 7: I forgot they had a noodle.

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Speaker 5: I was about to say, you're just gonn dismonudo.

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Speaker 6: You know, don't be acting like didn't exist, right, I know,

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Speaker 6: But here, And that was a challenge because because they

446
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 6: had laid the groundwork, it was like, well is he.

447
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: Comparable that do we fit them in a little bit

448
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: in a.

449
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 6: Boxing You gotta look at Bob's first album cover in

450
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 6: the back, He's literally ten keyboards around there.

451
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: I mean he was playing everything that like how do

452
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: you how do we story.

453
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: You were talented.

454
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 7: Turkeys?

455
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 9: Like, oh man, we always have we have a romance.

456
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 9: I love that, dude, you know, but yeah, that like

457
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 9: those cats, So my grease came from a different space.

458
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 9: So anytime it got pop or corny, I mean, it

459
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 9: was like that ain't me. I'm listening to the Bomb Squad,

460
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 9: Keith In Hey shot Lead and Premiere and Pete Q Harris,

461
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 9: I'm listening to like yeah like that. So when I

462
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 9: used to and mind you, RCA had their subsidiary or

463
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 9: partner was Jive, So I had keris one BDP. That's

464
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 9: melody doctor, I try called quest and like I said,

465
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 9: Teddy was like you know Teddy that yeah, big with

466
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 9: Big Daddy can't called chilling marlamoar Like that was my

467
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 9: information on top of you know Prince and you know

468
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 9: the time and all of that. So I had this

469
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 9: hybrid and anytime it it got like, well, let's just

470
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 9: do this song in Spanish. I don't speak Spanish, so

471
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 9: it's like, well, let's try to do something. And at

472
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 9: that time I would see how they were trying to

473
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 9: take like Selena put her in the pop world and

474
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 9: trying to force that, and it's like the one thing

475
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 9: about the black world is like if you aren't genuine

476
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 9: and it ain't real or authentic, hey Tomato cares, Yeah,

477
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 9: get on the other side. On the other side, we

478
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 9: were at Mastering with Brian the Face Brian Gardner at

479
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 9: Bernie Grummings and you know, he's doing this thing and

480
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 9: he gets a phone call and it's Terry Lewis and

481
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 9: Terry's checking on a project.

482
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 5: And how old are you at this point?

483
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 9: I'm fourteen? Yeah, okay and fourteen years old. And so

484
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 9: Terry is asking Brian about what when's it gonna be done?

485
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 9: Then he hears it, He's like who's at And Brian's like, oh,

486
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 9: this young kid, you know, mastered this other album back

487
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 9: with RCA, but he's putting out something independent and he

488
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 9: said he doesn't have a deal. He was like, no,

489
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 9: well let me find out. So hey, guys, uh is

490
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 9: this independent or is there a record company? Because I

491
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 9: don't see a record company on them on the call sheet.

492
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 9: He's like, no, it's independent. Why well, because Terry Lewis

493
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 9: is on the phone and he likes what he hears.

494
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 9: So I was like, uh, the Terry Lewis light Time

495
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 9: Like yeah, it's like Mortimer Randalls yell.

496
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 7: Machines on, those machines on.

497
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 9: And man, next thing you know, I'm in Minneapolis. Three

498
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 9: weeks later New Journey and that that was where you know,

499
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 9: perspective was burnt.

500
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 5: Wait over the phone, bro It starts with you fourteen

501
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: years old.

502
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 9: Start starts with me at fourteen side of me as

503
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 9: an artist.

504
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 5: Wow.

505
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 6: So then they signed me as an artist. I was

506
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 6: all my Ryman shit. So Bobby was doing the production.

507
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 6: I was on my rhyming shit, and Bob gave my

508
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 6: demo to Jam and Jam has this term they call

509
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 6: it drive off the Road music.

510
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: So he heard my stuff called and was like, Yo,

511
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: this is drive off the road music.

512
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 9: Terry get get his brother to get his brother to Yeah.

513
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: So now I'm out there and it's you know, new

515
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 6: journey man, whole new and how old are you with

516
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 6: this time?

517
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 9: I'm he's twelve going on thirteen because I turned fifteen.

518
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: It's crazy, so this.

519
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: Is a young fellow.

520
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 7: But you know this, this was a crazy thing.

521
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 9: So you know, I fly out there to go start

522
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 9: working on my solo record, and you know, you get

523
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 9: the tours, Like Sounds of Blackness is rehearsing in the back,

524
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 9: make conditions, coming in and out, just kind of checking

525
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 9: on things. Steve Hodge, who make all of Jimmy and

526
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 9: Terry stuff, just agreed to move out to Minneapolis to

527
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 9: just mix in house. So I'm like, it's the fact

528
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 9: that this is everybody that that I love, and you know,

529
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 9: Johnny Gills on his way up, and I'm like, wow, okay.

530
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 7: I had no fear.

531
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 9: But it was like, you know, you think you're ready

532
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 9: sometimes you know, like oh I got it, I got it,

533
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 9: and a lot of times you aren't. And I think

534
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 9: just the pressure that my pops always put on me,

535
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 9: I just didn't have no fear. And it's like cool,

536
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 9: it was part time. You gotta you gotta show up,

537
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 9: fold or focus, and.

538
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 6: It was a different creative machine at fly Time. It

539
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 6: was there was no looping or anything.

540
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you came in there. They said the way

541
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: we make records, you play from top to bottom.

542
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 6: You play from time, you play from top to bottom,

543
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 6: and you play from top to bottom. And Terry had this,

544
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 6: he had this thing where it's like no song should

545
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 6: sound the same way it ends.

546
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: So his his thing was always dynamics.

547
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and a lot of people don't realize,

548
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 6: like when you listen to the Jam and Lewis records,

549
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 6: when you hear those.

550
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Turnarounds on the drums and stuff, that's.

551
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: All Jam doing it live. You know all that stuff. Man,

552
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 6: it's like top to body.

553
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: That was at school.

554
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 6: Do your passive keys, to do your passive base, top

555
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 6: to bomb, you do your turnaround drum fields.

556
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was all talked about it. And the thing

557
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 9: that they loved was I was self contained. So they

558
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 9: were like stick Bobby and the studio see and I

559
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 9: cooked and everything I would cook. It was like Okay,

560
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 9: Terry come in, he'd write, and you know, I was

561
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 9: getting coached vocally from you know, the guy and Terry.

562
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Would spend like two hours on one line. That's how

563
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: yeah he was.

564
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 9: He was relentless, you know, you do like a master's

565
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 9: and a slave real and you had twenty four tracks

566
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 9: to just do all these vocals and keep four and

567
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 9: comp So after that it was like it was like, hey,

568
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 9: we got a remix for more money soundtrack, you want

569
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 9: to do it? I was like yeah, cool, And it

570
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 9: was just we were and out on top of work

571
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 9: in the record. So when I started doing that, I

572
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 9: was like, tee, my brother, we got some crazy joints

573
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 9: on him. So I gave it to jam and you

574
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 9: know that happened. So everything started progressing at that time

575
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 9: quick too, very fast.

576
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 5: So is your dad with you?

577
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: With me?

578
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 7: And you know it?

579
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 9: Terry for me was incredible because I started living with

580
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 9: Terry and he saw the friction. And Terry knew Crazy

581
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 9: and he knew Karate, like he knew how that ship worked.

582
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 9: And he was like, Pops, man, go cool. I would

583
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 9: go see a movie. I got this all right, and

584
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 9: what are you gonna tell?

585
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: Terry?

586
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 6: And you know, and you know that was the thing, right,

587
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 6: he became the buffer. But he also understood my dad's

588
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 6: component and he respected it.

589
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: Like and Terry would always say, like, you know, all

590
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: always respected Dad because I get.

591
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: It, you know.

592
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: But you know, and I think when I got signed

593
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: my joint end up coming out before Bobs and you know,

594
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: now I'm running at the Gavin convention all that stuff.

595
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 6: When that was around in the bay. You know, we

596
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 6: put out the record. Next thing I know, Pete Rock's

597
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 6: doing a remix.

598
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: So it was like and.

599
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 7: Crack, yeah it was.

600
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 9: And I think that's what made the relationship, you know,

601
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 9: incredible with Terry because you know, I say this for

602
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 9: anybody like I want you to know my truth.

603
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 7: My shit was nasty. You know.

604
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 9: My first picture was I had a cast on with

605
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 9: Janet Jackson and jam and Lewis. My dad was crazy, right,

606
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 9: So when I'm in the studio and I can't really

607
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 9: write like I want to write that birth big gym.

608
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 7: Right mm, because I couldn't get in.

609
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 9: I couldn't do everything I wanted to do until my

610
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 9: hand held because of Pops. So that birth big Jim

611
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 9: as a songwriter producer, which ultimately went to I get

612
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 9: so lonely that a lot of Adams opened my heart.

613
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 9: So that opened up a door for him in the camp.

614
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 9: So that's how crazy it was. And having Terry in

615
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 9: our lives was like, that's how you know important it was.

616
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 8: Because I was already part of the writing and producing team.

617
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 7: No, I was just I was.

618
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 6: So you know, and then my joint started taking off

619
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 6: and then out of nowhere, man, it came crumbling down

620
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 6: because of my pops. You know, my apostles yelling at

621
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: people at perspective and they just saw it, as you know,

622
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 6: it was just a hindrance to to moving things forward.

623
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: And he's working on his album there and so.

624
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 8: It's one of my guys always tells my brother problem

625
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 8: always tells me said, sometimes the juice is not worth

626
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 8: the squeeze.

627
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: Man.

628
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 7: Oh that's a good one.

629
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: And honestly, man, that's a great way to put it,

630
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 6: because that's exactly how it felt to me when it

631
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 6: just came to a halt. I just said, okay, let

632
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 6: me go on and let me let me take my

633
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 6: ass to high school.

634
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Let me be around some folks.

635
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: Let me you still that young?

636
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I went to I went to ten.

637
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: Great.

638
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: It's when I went back to.

639
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: School in Minneapolis.

640
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Back here in Cally came back. Yeah, yeah, to stop.

641
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 6: I was cool, man, And even at that time, I

642
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 6: started to look at things with a different, different perspective.

643
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: When it came to music in our family, I said, okay,

644
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 6: we're paying the cost now to love this thing called music,

645
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 6: because it's taking a toll on the family.

646
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: And I had no appetite for it.

647
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Man.

648
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: I went back to school, Bob stayed a mini and

649
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 6: Bob was faced with an ultimatum. Hey, Bob, it's either

650
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: you're gonna stay here on perspective, or you go wrong

651
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 6: with your pops.

652
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: That's how That's how much it was.

653
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 7: It was crazy.

654
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 9: I mean when Norman Winters, who likes synonymous as a

655
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 9: publicist for Off the Wall, and Elton John You were

656
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 9: in it too, it was like, you know, they had

657
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 9: to fly me out by myself and so I'll never

658
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 9: forget it. I was in the car with Terry and

659
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 9: into the studio and he was like, hey, Bob, I

660
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 9: know this is tough and I know it's crazy, but

661
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 9: I can't deal with Pops right now, and you're going

662
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 9: to have to figure out what you want to do.

663
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 9: And he said, artists come and go and they have

664
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 9: their time, but the ability you have it is like

665
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 9: me and jam and it's even better because it's all you.

666
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 9: You can have a career as a songwriter and a

667
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 9: producer and a musician and write for others. And I

668
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 9: knew what he was telling me. When I go back home,

669
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 9: it's a no win for me because if I stay,

670
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 9: it's got to be without him, and if I don't,

671
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 9: it's without it's with him still. And it's like it's tough, right,

672
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 9: It was really tough, So you know.

673
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 7: I made the decision.

674
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 9: I was like at this time, six sixteen going on seventeen,

675
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 9: and I was like, and like Terry said, you got

676
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 9: to live there, boy, you gotta live there, so you

677
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 9: gotta you have to be happy too, in whatever way

678
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 9: that means to you.

679
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: So I was like, well, I'm off for perspective.

680
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: Then came home. Came home.

681
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, so done and back to square one. Fellas that

682
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 6: I just got.

683
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 9: That climate, back to scoring, back up again, back to

684
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 9: square one.

685
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, it was crazy.

686
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: Man.

687
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 5: Do you go back to school, you go do the

688
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: same thing too.

689
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 6: He stayed, He stayed on. It was independent studies. He graduated,

690
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 6: but stayed back in the.

691
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 7: Garage, cooking, cooking.

692
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 6: Man, I'm at high school, and you know, I'm getting

693
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 6: ready to finish high school.

694
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Man, I go get me a job. I work at

695
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: best Buy.

696
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, TV get a couple of a couple of

697
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: what was it.

698
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 7: I wasn't everybody?

699
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we sold the hell at warranties. You know,

700
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: you know.

701
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 6: So so, And that's you know, that's the thing, because we're.

702
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Talking all walks of life, what we've experienced. You know,

703
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: it was, you know, the road the road of like

704
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: poke your chest out.

705
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 6: That's only been alive for us for like fifteen years,

706
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 6: but the journey's been thirty years.

707
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 9: Right, So, and I think to just the being in

708
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 9: the game, because we even didn't talk about like while

709
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 9: I was cooking for him, I was, uh cooking for

710
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 9: he started with me, Skilo. I wish it was a

711
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 9: little bit tallerant I produced him like back when I

712
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 9: was forty managed him, but that manage him. There was

713
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 9: a girl Dominique. So I was like the guy like

714
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 9: I was like Teddy Boyd. I was like cooking for everybody.

715
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 9: So I had this, like all of this in me,

716
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 9: and I'm going from deal to deal. It's like you

717
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 9: kind of you're getting tossed around everywhere. And the older

718
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 9: I got, you know, I was I was a guy

719
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 9: that always liked information. I love to learn, so I

720
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 9: would talk to executives. I would talk to guys around

721
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 9: me who've been in the game, you know, trying to

722
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 9: figure out business plans because man, I think I might

723
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 9: need to do something by myself. And you know, my

724
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 9: dad was relentless, and so he was like, we got

725
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 9: to do another record, because when you're out, when you're

726
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 9: the window moves, if you're not in it, you got

727
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 9: to hurry up because they forget who you are.

728
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 7: So we put a record out.

729
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 9: I did a remake of al Greens Let's Say Together,

730
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 9: and we put it out independently, and we got a

731
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 9: lot of love. Baker boys at the time were hot

732
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 9: and power went those sins and those were our guys.

733
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 9: So they got that record to number one. So I'm

734
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 9: back in the Chi lit circuit or the burrito circuit.

735
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 9: I'm like primetime now sometimes probably just I'm opening up

736
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 9: for the same guys, you know, the Tony's and everybody

737
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 9: you know.

738
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 7: And at one point, man, it was like.

739
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 9: I can't, I can't do this, Like I'm not loving it,

740
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 9: but I still love it that I got to be alone.

741
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 9: And we had somebody in the family that was like, man,

742
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 9: you got to get out of here. You got to

743
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 9: get out out of your house. You gotta there. There's

744
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 9: God got something for you different, And man, God put

745
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 9: some great people around me. I ended up living with

746
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 9: a friend of ours who was actually kind of working

747
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 9: with us at the time in music with my dad,

748
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 9: and that same guy, Norman Winters, called him and I said, hey, man,

749
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 9: I would love to talk to you.

750
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 7: Come to the office.

751
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 9: And it just because I had nothing at that point,

752
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 9: I was I had nine thousand dollars and I'm eighteen,

753
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 9: and I left the house with no bitter heart. But

754
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 9: just the one thing that I loved the most more

755
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 9: than myself was music. So I gotta keep going for it,

756
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 9: not to be popular, just to have a career and

757
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 9: do what I love to do. So I had the

758
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 9: mindset of like, well, go get the information. And Norman

759
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 9: Winter's showed me a whole nother life of marketing, show

760
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 9: me a whole another life of branding, and I was like,

761
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 9: this is why these record companies didn't get it. And

762
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 9: he told me I couldn't work with your manager and

763
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 9: your father, and that's what prohibited me to continue. Say

764
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 9: you have that thing, and I know you have that

765
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 9: thing because I found Elton John and they took Elton

766
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 9: John from me, and I'm going to help you. So, man,

767
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 9: I'm in this different world now at this point, and

768
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 9: I'm trying to rebuild. I'm learning corporation talk, come learning

769
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 9: how to get structure and all of these states plans,

770
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 9: how to put business plans together, trying to learn every

771
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 9: facet of the game the way that I had been

772
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 9: learning it as a musician. I'm just trying to understand

773
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 9: what the business is like, because the easiest part, we

774
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 9: always say is making the music. It's the easiest part.

775
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 9: It's when you have to hand that craft of that

776
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 9: baby over.

777
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: Yah.

778
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: Where does it go from there?

779
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

780
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody goes, oh, I got to hit. No you don't.

781
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 9: They're going to tell you what you what you really have,

782
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 9: you know. So I went on that journey and it

783
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 9: was tough. Man, it was alone.

784
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 6: And then I finally left the crib.

785
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, he left the crib.

786
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, bro, let's let's go, you know.

787
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 9: Let's start it up again. So then at that point

788
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 9: it became I'm not going to be an artist. I'm

789
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 9: gonna be that guy that Terry Lewis told me in

790
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 9: that truck.

791
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question.

792
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: As you're deciding to leave the house in both situations,

793
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: is that a conversation with your father?

794
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 6: Like, no, they're actually through fallouts like we were. Actually

795
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: I remember it Claire's day. The day he left, we

796
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: literally got done.

797
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: We were doing.

798
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 6: Grand Night at Disneyland. We were the band for Grand

799
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 6: nighte Wow.

800
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: With this group.

801
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: With the group we started DW three, DW three we started.

802
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 6: So I'm literally leaving high school, like my dad's school,

803
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 6: go do the gig, get home at like five am,

804
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: go back to school the next day, Like that's the

805
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 6: grind it was. And so I think it was on

806
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 6: our last gig at Disneyland, we were in the car

807
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 6: with my pops. Pops driving us home and Bobby was like,

808
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 6: I'm done, I'm leaving, and man, that was the longest

809
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 6: ride home.

810
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 9: It's not too far from at you could get there

811
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 9: back home with like thirty minutes.

812
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 7: And it was like time stopped.

813
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 6: Man, how could you betray me that at all? This

814
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 6: I put years? I mean, it was that classic oh shit,

815
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 6: the lid just blew.

816
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 3: Out, right, So did you do this to me? After

817
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: all week?

818
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 6: And that was the start of his exit and mine

819
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 6: came shortly after. I would come home and I just

820
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 6: hear my dad cursing my brother, like your brother's never

821
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 6: And one day I just couldn't take it. And one

822
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: I was like, man, how long are you going to

823
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 6: talk about your son that way?

824
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: Like get over it, man, move on.

825
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 6: And I couldn't take it no more. And I had

826
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 6: my blowout with him and I was like, bro, come

827
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 6: pick me up.

828
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm out.

829
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 6: Wow, And you know, just I couldn't take it anymore, man,

830
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 6: you know, it was it became poison.

831
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: It became my dad was bitter.

832
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 6: My dad was, you know, telling people that you know,

833
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 6: oh yeah, he left me with nothing, and you know,

834
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: just the classic story, you know, and I'll never forget

835
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 6: being on the phone with my pops at some point

836
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 6: after that and him telling me, you know, yeah, whatever

837
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: whatever you brought, whatever you and your brother.

838
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Think you're gonna do, you're gonna fail without me. Just watch,

839
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: just watch. And so you know, that became, you know,

840
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: feel you know.

841
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: And what's crazy because we haven't we haven't said yet,

842
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 6: but we're so close with our mom.

843
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: Our mom is like our rock to everything. And so

844
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: because of the TERMO with my pops, I remember not.

845
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: Even coming around for at least a year or two

846
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 6: because of my dad, and so for us to not

847
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 6: see our mom like was crazy, you know, And I

848
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 6: mean it was the air was stick for I want

849
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 6: to say at least four to five years where we

850
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 6: just couldn't we couldn't do it, you know, I couldn't

851
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 6: do it, couldn't be around him, didn't want to see him,

852
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: didn't want to hear from him. And you know it's like, well,

853
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: you know, we can't use that as an excuse.

854
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: We got to get out here.

855
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: And and get it in the trench.

856
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get it in it. And you know, I graduate.

857
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 6: Once I graduated, I was doing these side gigs with

858
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 6: an engineer. We had met during some of my sessions

859
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 6: and his name was D Style, and D Style was

860
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 6: working with a with a you know, a new artist

861
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 6: at the time who was Macy Gray, and.

862
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: He would bring me in.

863
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 6: He would bring me in to do drums, you know,

864
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 6: so I bring I have my little this kid that

865
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 6: I still have had it since I was five year old,

866
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 6: five years old, but it had a spirit on it, right.

867
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: It was all beat up, raggedy. I used to take

868
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: it apart.

869
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 6: I used to try to get to sound like James

870
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 6: Brown's drummer, and it just had a spirit. So D

871
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 6: loved the way it sounded, and he loved that I

872
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 6: played hip hop grooves. So he'd bring me in and

873
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 6: I start doing these sessions for Macy, and one thing

874
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 6: led to another.

875
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: She was like, you need to come out on the

876
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: road with me.

877
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 6: And I was like, shit, I'm broke, let's go. You know,

878
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 6: we had just got our apartments. I was like, bro, are.

879
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: Y'all still in the i Ea of the Yak We're still.

880
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, because we the premise of being in the ie

881
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 9: was I'm never going to lose myself in LA. This

882
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 9: is too crazy, right, and and you know, Prince thought

883
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 9: the same way about about Minneapolis. Why live in Minneapolis?

884
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 9: And he would say, to keep all the band people away,

885
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 9: you know. And that was the concept, to just protect.

886
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 7: Who you are.

887
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 9: It's home front, you know, you know, on all front.

888
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 9: So we did everything in the IE. We built studios

889
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 9: out there. Our partner our new partners were would come.

890
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 12: From the I E.

891
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: I graduated from.

892
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 9: You know, I think it was like, let's protect us

893
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 9: here and then we'll go out to the world.

894
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 8: So y'all y'all doing all this from from from the

895
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 8: Internet empire, all of it, And yeah, are you at

896
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 8: this point just completely focusing on writing and producing?

897
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: We're focusing on We're focusing on it all.

898
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, how can we get where can we get a check?

899
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Where can we get a check? Partnerships, opportunities, music songs

900
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: probably Okay.

901
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 9: So Is had went out with Mason Gray at that time.

902
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 9: I had I was still on my you know, I

903
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 9: had We had met Ice Teeth through a friend of ours,

904
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 9: and so I ended up doing records for like, you know,

905
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 9: for him, Spice One, the Loonies.

906
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you had the alcoholics.

907
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: J Ross point, what are y'all charging a track man? Whatever?

908
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 9: We can get you know what, twenty five hundred five

909
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 9: thousand we made it.

910
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: But you say almost like maybe you'll give it.

911
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah, how much you want exactly?

912
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 9: Yes, exactly, And you know we hear the deals like,

913
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 9: oh man, we got we got two hundred for this.

914
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 9: I'd be like, damn, like really right because now you know,

915
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 9: I'm understanding bills are always on time, and now they're

916
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 9: like and now there is bills. So it gets a

917
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 9: gig and it's like, hey, bro go do your thing.

918
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: This is the first time we're about to be apart

919
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: apart like that.

920
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: So you're eighteen about to play drums around the.

921
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 5: World because global world.

922
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: Yea.

923
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: And for me it was like my first tour as

924
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: a drummer.

925
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, having a tech, you know, because she

926
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 6: had all the white folks, so she was she was different.

927
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 6: It was you had a guy come up to you, sir, sir,

928
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 6: how do.

929
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 7: You want your basic on your tech.

930
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: For you?

931
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: We'll get you.

932
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: I'll let you know when it's all together. The yeah.

933
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: And here's what's crazy.

934
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: It was crazy about that.

935
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 6: For some strange reason, prior to that opportunity, I had

936
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 6: just got cases for all my I had a red

937
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 6: Yamaha kid. So I had just got cases, and so

938
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 6: my thing was like, okay, you know, if I get some.

939
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: Drum work, studio work, like that's bread for us.

940
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 6: You know, we just you know, we're pre smelling things, right,

941
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 6: So you know I got that opportunity and that really

942
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 6: being around the road, you know, I had, I had

943
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 6: an NPC three thousand with me, and so I started

944
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 6: this regiment. Every city I went to, I'd go to

945
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 6: the local record store and I'd bring back vine back.

946
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, you ain't got a chance.

947
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 9: What one?

948
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 7: Top five?

949
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: Your top five?

950
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Yes, top five?

951
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: Your top five? Oh the singer.

952
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 5: Boun this be so.

953
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 10: Brown that yow be love bron Then this my brother.

954
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: Shop joke, go your.

955
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, who's in your top?

956
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 3: Your time?

957
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 9: Okay, you got sexy?

958
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: Then ye.

959
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 7: Give it up.

960
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah that's easy for us, man. So let's see, are

961
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: you guys gonna breaking and because.

962
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: We're like minded, man, you know we okay, you read

963
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: the same thing.

964
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go.

965
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say five off top five.

966
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 8: Marve singers said you kick it off, Marvin kicking it

967
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 8: off Marvin and Stevie.

968
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: Has Jesus Christ aggressive.

969
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 9: I gotta go with Donnie Hathaway m hmm and Felippe win.

970
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: Yo.

971
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 5: Now you gotta split one now Yeah, what's the sign means.

972
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 7: Bobby Carwell, ah.

973
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: Amazing.

974
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: What a voice, what a voice?

975
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: How long timeless.

976
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 9: And just how he moved with the chorus. Oh man,

977
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 9: you know, what you Won't Do for Love was written

978
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 9: for Earth with a Fire and they turned it down.

979
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 7: Immediately, right.

980
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: And what you're hearing is.

981
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: The actual that's the demo.

982
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 9: It's the demo.

983
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: He just gave me chills singing what you Won't Do

984
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: for Love?

985
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: Wow, m h We don't hear them all. That's the

986
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: one thing we got to talk about at some point.

987
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: We don't hear them all. Okay, Top five R and B.

988
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: Songs Send one your love? Mhm, send one your love

989
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: when doves cry?

990
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

991
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 9: He shoot, yeah, he can't load. Yeah, the cheek codes

992
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 9: in his glasses.

993
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, y'all was first in text.

994
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 3: What's going across his RB song?

995
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 7: So I gotta you know for all we know?

996
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

997
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 7: Donny Hathaway, I love.

998
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: That patience on that record.

999
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, just to be subtle on it. And I'd say

1000
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 9: the second song.

1001
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

1002
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 9: Got answer my pants and I needed dance. James Brown,

1003
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 9: he wanted he was a James Brown. I'll take the

1004
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 9: fifth one. Hm, what's going on?

1005
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 5: Ain't no argument here, classic song.

1006
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 6: And here's what's when when you get into our cars.

1007
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 6: That's exactly what we listened to. Yeah, day in and

1008
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 6: day out.

1009
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, knee deep deep James Taylor, you.

1010
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: Gotta stay connected to that. You have it in your.

1011
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1012
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: I would run another day to Mint Condition, Mint Factory.

1013
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: Oh man, I just I just had to have it.

1014
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 4: I had to get it in my body, just for

1015
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: a second when I hear so fine, you know what

1016
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: what is wrong?

1017
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 9: I flew to Vegas last week, Right last week, I

1018
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 9: got a Ricky for my condition. Uh taged me on

1019
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 9: a post and I forgot to tell y'all this. But

1020
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 9: when it wasn't on for me, the fellas who really

1021
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 9: took care of me and were going to make me

1022
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 9: part of their production company and the artists, it was

1023
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 9: make condition. And the love that we have for each

1024
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 9: other and that relationship is it's like at the Crazy Bond.

1025
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 9: And they gave me the strength to keep going. And

1026
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 9: those brothers right there, not only are they so bad,

1027
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 9: amazing guys. Ye as you say that, it's like Man

1028
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 9: and Ricky, Jeff and Larry Man.

1029
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: Those study material for me. Kerry Lewis Man so fon material.

1030
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, here we go making your perfect R

1031
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 4: and B singer, the one you're going to sign and

1032
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 4: sell one hundred million records with. Okay, called this the

1033
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 4: R and B voltron h. We want to know who

1034
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: you're going to get the vocal from for that artist,

1035
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 4: the performing style for that artist, the styling for that artist,

1036
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 4: and the heart of that artist, the passion. Who are

1037
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: you grabbing the vocal from for your artists. You can collaborate,

1038
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 4: you can talk about it.

1039
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: You need to.

1040
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 9: I would get I would get I would get a

1041
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 9: cop I would say Bobby. I would say Elder Barge.

1042
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 9: I would get Elder Barge for just the passion and

1043
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 9: the nuance, the vocal starting the vocal, just the vocal,

1044
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 9: oh vocal.

1045
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: See I have and I have to think relevancy to

1046
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 6: write how that vocal fits in relevancy too, because that's

1047
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 6: part of our pedigree, his cloth, the DNA of where

1048
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 6: we're from, but also making sure that we're in the

1049
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 6: right frequency.

1050
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 5: You can tell some people that got hit records, they

1051
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 5: start thinking of.

1052
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: Formulas on the radio.

1053
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 12: Formulas, Uh, vocally, Marvin Gaye, I rock with you on that.

1054
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

1055
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: Gotta perform like Michael though.

1056
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: Performance styles, So you canna give Marvin's voice and then

1057
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 3: perform style that would be unreal.

1058
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then what's the next You got to be

1059
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 6: able to play answer the styling.

1060
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 7: Oh, the styling of the artists.

1061
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: Look like we're gonna drip.

1062
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 7: Like that's gonna sound a little crazy.

1063
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 9: But you put that combination with with like a Rick James.

1064
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I like that's.

1065
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: What you all night.

1066
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 4: Might show up in a leather We're in the game

1067
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: home last night.

1068
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wouldn't even talk to me.

1069
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: We're crafting the superstar. So, yeah, a super superstar.

1070
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: People don't give Rick his flowers. Man was a powerhouse.

1071
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: He was.

1072
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 13: Oh Man, the monster musician, musician, the dread the lady.

1073
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: And he could write a song and he's gonna write

1074
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 5: and produce it.

1075
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: And he was disrespect and yeah, he was disruptive on.

1076
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 4: Habitual line step Okay, all right. The passion of the artist,

1077
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 4: the heart of the artists. You kind of alluded to

1078
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 4: it before, but I don't know if you want to

1079
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: change that.

1080
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: It's got to be Prince m Yeah, all or nothing.

1081
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: I was just telling stories about that kind of off camera,

1082
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 4: about how competitive, how much he had.

1083
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: Fear, fierce, fierce he was.

1084
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 7: He was music at all costs.

1085
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: It's all the costs, man.

1086
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 9: I have stuff in that and the vault that I

1087
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 9: got from him, like music that you won't you never hear. O. God,

1088
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 9: how he did the walk, like just with Morris playing

1089
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 9: the drums and him playing the bass trying to figure

1090
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 9: out that BA like he was it. Yeah, and he

1091
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 9: did everything with the time.

1092
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 7: It was all him.

1093
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 9: It was him and him and Morris play. Wasn't Jimmy, Monty,

1094
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 9: none of them. It's all Prince.

1095
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: She's crazy.

1096
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, man, y'all hey listen man, levels y'all, y'all sick,

1097
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: y'all are sick.

1098
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 3: Bro.

1099
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 8: We're not done though, y Yeah, we're gonna split these

1100
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 8: up to two stores stores.

1101
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1102
00:56:46,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, twinkle fingers, I ain't saying no name.

1103
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 5: Very important segment of the show talking about it.

1104
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 14: Yeah all right, Well, and we're gonna we're gonna split

1105
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 14: it up a Bobby version and an Easy version because

1106
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 14: both of y'all have had long journeys and travels in this.

1107
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 8: Thing that we call music. And uh, the name of

1108
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 8: the topic and the segment in the game is I

1109
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 8: ain't saying no names. So your story funny, are fucked up?

1110
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 5: Are funny and fucked up.

1111
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: Mine's funny and fucked up perfect.

1112
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 8: So we're gonna go first with easys.

1113
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 5: I ain't saying no names.

1114
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: You didn't hear from me.

1115
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 7: I didn't say nothing.

1116
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: Here's the key to my story. Campbell suits, good food.

1117
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: You ready?

1118
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, we're in the studio working with an artists

1119
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 6: doing a couple of records. Hey man, my friend just

1120
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 6: came through. Man, it's a cool if he comes up.

1121
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, bring him up. We're vibing, we're chilling.

1122
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 6: We got all the we got all the gear in

1123
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 6: the in the room, so we kind of have it

1124
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 6: set up like we can jam at any given moment. Me, Bob, Terry,

1125
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 6: be Jim, No, no, no, they're cool, they're cool. Okay,

1126
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 6: they're cool, they're they're safe, safe, all right, cool man,

1127
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 6: We're five minutes, all good.

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00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Bring him up, comes on up. We're like, oh what's up?

1129
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: Man?

1130
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 5: Are hey man?

1131
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 6: You know, we're just sitting here vibing. Man, all right,

1132
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 6: cool man, Hey, hey, Bob, play something.

1133
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 7: He is.

1134
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: A man.

1135
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Come in here and sing something. Man, come sing.

1136
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 6: My stomach hurts. Your stomach hurts, but you can sing. Man,

1137
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 6: Come on, man, come vibe with us. I don't feel

1138
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 6: good tummy.

1139
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: For real. Man, Bob, get up while you under there laughing,

1140
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Get up, man. They over Bobby and Terry Lewis over

1141
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: there are just busting a ball and we're like, yo,

1142
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna jump in here and just sing.

1143
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1144
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: It's all We're all vibe and it's freaking.

1145
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: My tummy hurts.

1146
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: Hey, man, if you knew who it was, If you

1147
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: knew who it was, remember the key to my story,

1148
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: campbell Soup's good food.

1149
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: So do you think they were scared to see?

1150
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was. I don't know if

1151
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 6: when something is tummy or he just didn't want to say.

1152
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: But it was weird and soft. Just and just think

1153
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: how I'm I'm acting it up.

1154
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: It's weird and so listen to me. Listen, m M.

1155
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 3: That's enough, yo.

1156
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 6: But what what was even crazier was my brothers literally

1157
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 6: on the floor under the console, dying and Terry's.

1158
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 9: Like, he's atom stop, stop, get up, can't I can't mean.

1159
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 4: There's a few reasons, you know, I'm not going entertained

1160
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: because he's.

1161
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: To be We were hype.

1162
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 6: We're like, oh this boy could blown come fine with us.

1163
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, we were you know, eight jokes ready right,

1164
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: get out of there.

1165
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Bobby, I ain't saying no name.

1166
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 7: Uh yeah.

1167
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 9: This one was very eye opening. So we're in the

1168
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 9: studio to me is and it's Terry and Jimmy, and.

1169
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 3: It was.

1170
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 9: A very monumental moment because there's a guy who had

1171
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 9: this record that was amazing, it was killing, And so

1172
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 9: we found out he was on his way to the studio.

1173
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 7: So he comes by.

1174
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 9: And Jimmy and Terry take him to the back one

1175
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 9: of the back studios that we had had a conversation

1176
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 9: with him.

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 7: He had a number one record booming and.

1178
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 9: One of our favorites, one of a lot of people's favorites.

1179
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 9: And Jimmy Terry give him like the h that talk.

1180
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 9: They sign him, I'll tell you what to do or

1181
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 9: not to do, and they have that conversation. They come

1182
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 9: out of the room, he says it's goodbyes, and they

1183
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 9: said I don't think we're ever going to see him again.

1184
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 9: And I said, really, no, we've seen a lot come

1185
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 9: and a lot go.

1186
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 7: They ain't gonna hear from.

1187
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 9: Him, and we ain't heard from ever since.

1188
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 5: What they do to that boy in that room.

1189
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 9: Man, they gave him a dose, and we ain't never

1190
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 9: heard from the real And they were right. So when

1191
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 9: a wise man tells you, I've seen them come and

1192
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 9: I've seen them go. And when they say, oh, he's great, no,

1193
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 9: greatness is always defined over period of time. They gave

1194
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 9: him the crown too quick, and guys who have been

1195
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 9: able to do it over and over and over and

1196
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 9: over again knew it.

1197
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 7: Blew my mind. I paid attention even more.

1198
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: Wow, I gotta know who that is.

1199
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 5: We never asked a guest who it is. Don't worry, guys,

1200
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 5: you have is gonna be.

1201
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: In my d m.

1202
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: Who wasn't man who's telling me her?

1203
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 7: He was gonna tell me?

1204
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 8: I don't leave me alone.

1205
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 3: Listen, bro, y'all are man, y'all are history. Man.

1206
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 4: You guys, you guys, and you've done it over and

1207
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 4: over again over and you keep doing it.

1208
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: Ship. Shout out to your longevity. Shout out to.

1209
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 4: Just maintaining yourselves, maintaining your mental health.

1210
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: Your physical health.

1211
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely throughout this journey, man, And and thank you

1212
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 4: for this love, man, And.

1213
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 6: On some realty, like, man, what you guys have put

1214
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 6: together here, just the experience of what it means for

1215
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 6: guys like us to just come chop it up and

1216
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 6: share stories, and just the camaraderie of what this is

1217
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, man, like we

1218
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 6: needed this years ago where we could just come break

1219
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 6: bread and chop it up as human beings.

1220
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: Man.

1221
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 6: And you know a lot of times the game has

1222
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 6: kept us so separated, you know, and.

1223
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 5: There's no governing body.

1224
01:04:55,480 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so, and we've been such fan of yours

1225
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 6: for a long time. I don't know how we've never

1226
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 6: even been able to leave with and just create and

1227
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 6: build together with you.

1228
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: That's all he cares about that.

1229
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you, you know, the reason why you

1230
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 6: guys mean a lot to us is because you guys

1231
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 6: are from the same cloth we're from. You know, the

1232
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 6: expectation of what excellence represents.

1233
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: That's all we've ever tried to do throughout our journey.

1234
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 6: And more importantly, because you know, we're doing something that

1235
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 6: based on our skin color, we shouldn't really be able

1236
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 6: to do as well as we do it. But what

1237
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 6: keeps us going is that the kids that look like

1238
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 6: us get to now think beyond what those limitations are,

1239
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 6: you know, and you know, to be embraced by you

1240
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 6: guys and your culture the way we have is a

1241
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 6: blessing and even though we've had to earn it and

1242
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 6: fight for it, but that's rightfully. So, you know, you

1243
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 6: guys are a master of what this this beautiful body

1244
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 6: of music that you guys have created throughout the years

1245
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 6: that we're such fans of and appreciate it and want

1246
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 6: to make sure we pay homage.

1247
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: And most importantly do it the right way, you know.

1248
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 6: So to be able to sit in a room with

1249
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 6: you guys, and for you guys to have always embraced

1250
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 6: us and welcome it means a lot, man, Yeah, you know,

1251
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 6: and we and we and because of that, we are

1252
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 6: sticklers for even our own culture that wants to embrace

1253
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 6: black music and introduce it or we're hard on them

1254
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 6: because you have to do it in such a way

1255
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 6: that's excellence, that represents excellence, you know. So thank you guys, man,

1256
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 6: you know, for making us feel a part of the family.

1257
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 5: Family.

1258
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 7: Man.

1259
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 9: I used to look at videos we shared the same

1260
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 9: with the school tours.

1261
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: Yes, the early back then, back then.

1262
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, and the thing is like that's what I say,

1263
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 9: Like the the ones who know, like, no, you know

1264
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 9: what I.

1265
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 7: Mean, You just you can't. You can't fake.

1266
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 9: It and make it in this thing. You either either

1267
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 9: have it or you don't. And he's still pretty Look

1268
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 9: at him, man, he's still.

1269
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: Still looked the same way you do, bron Like.

1270
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 9: That's how you know the game to beat him up.

1271
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 9: And you know they'll look at me like, damn, Bob,

1272
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 9: like what do you eat? What are you putting in

1273
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 9: your face?

1274
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: Like I have.

1275
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: A bald beef.

1276
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: Camera.

1277
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, super Bowls, well, you know you got both

1278
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 9: talks of plastic surgery.

1279
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 7: That's what I met. That's what I've got to say.

1280
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 7: It just came out. It just came.

1281
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: Every morning.

1282
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 9: I just have too much fun at me because I

1283
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 9: don't take myself that serious and take the art music

1284
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 9: seriously and didn't let it beat me like it could have.

1285
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 9: Now I got some battle wounds, but thank god I'm

1286
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 9: still here, like we will still here right like you know,

1287
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, I just want him

1288
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 9: to say good like, well done, good faithful, sert man.

1289
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 7: You do what you're supposed to do with what what

1290
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 7: I gave you.

1291
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,920
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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:23,959
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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:40,680
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