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Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody? Jeam Middlecop Golo Pod, Big

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Speaker 2: show coming up. Talk to Sobl. We didn't do anything

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Speaker 2: last week about everything going on under the sun. News

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Speaker 2: broke while I was on with him about Tiger Woods

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Speaker 2: and Joela Cava, and that is what I'm going to

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Speaker 2: me and Sobol didn't know that it was like an

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Speaker 2: official long term partnership. But obviously as the day went on,

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods and Joela Cava that things run its course

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Speaker 2: because of tiger Wood's injury, and he gave him his

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Speaker 2: blessing and I think that marks the unofficial end for

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Speaker 2: the cat. But uh, we'll talk about that off the top.

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Speaker 2: We will talk to Sobal about everything going on, world

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Speaker 2: what else. I haven't watched as much golf the last

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Speaker 2: the day, and that is its official that Joe Lacava,

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Speaker 2: a fellow Bald Brother, enormous NFL fan, he's a big

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Speaker 2: New York Giants fan, will no longer caddy for Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 2: And last week we had opened the show with there

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Speaker 2: was breaking news that Tiger needed a surgery. And it's

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Speaker 2: pretty clear that Tiger Woods season, when it comes to

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Speaker 2: is probably over. And I think last week I had

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Speaker 2: we thought, list we're never gonna get a season out

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Speaker 2: of Tiger beside the four Majors, separate from the tournament

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Speaker 2: with Charlie, which let's face, he only has got a

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Speaker 2: couple more years. Charlie's gonna go to college. But and

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll get a tournament here, a tournament there. This

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Speaker 2: year he played riff right, so maybe we'd get at

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Speaker 2: most five or six tournaments. And then we saw again

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Speaker 2: makes me really sad because I think Tiger Woods, and

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Speaker 2: I tweeted this out in my thirty eight years of life.

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Speaker 2: There are three guys that I put on a pedestal

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Speaker 2: great entertainers, guys that you would feel very good about

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Speaker 2: paying to see in all sports. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: I didn't really live Joe Montana. I didn't live those

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Speaker 2: seventies Pittsburgh Steeler teams or Bill Russell. It's Michael, It's Tiger,

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Speaker 2: of my lifetime. And what makes Tiger unique is those

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Speaker 2: other two guys were not quite phenomenons like him. I mean,

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Speaker 2: guy was on Sports Illustrated in his mid teens. This guy.

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Speaker 2: The one of the big companies at the time built

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Speaker 2: I don't know how else you could come up with

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Speaker 2: Patrick Cantley. Who listen anyone that follows golf closely, like

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Speaker 2: Patrick Cantley is not the most enjoyable player to watch.

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Speaker 2: But there is no disputing and there is definitely no

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Speaker 2: because he is an ATM machine, and he's eventually going

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Speaker 2: Probably not. He plays very slow, but I completely understand it.

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Speaker 2: Joe Lacava going with you know, I think it's fair

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Speaker 2: that includes the live tour. So but I don't think

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Speaker 2: but also it's going to limit his mobility. This season's

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Speaker 2: probably done. But I even think moving forward to assume

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Speaker 2: assume that. I think, at best, for the next several years,

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Speaker 2: his body physically can't handle it, which is understandable. He

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Speaker 2: But I think this shows you that for Tiger to

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Speaker 2: which he alluded to at his master's press conference, that

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Speaker 2: just being honest, Like it's kind of over. I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely too accomplished and too rich to ever take

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Speaker 2: They ended careers. The difference is is when Michael's career ended,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know it was going to end as abruptly

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Speaker 2: So you know, good luck to Joe Locava. Hopefully can

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't know the ins and outs of this,

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Speaker 1: I think he is a really good, really smart person

430
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Speaker 1: when it comes to this stuff. But I feel like

431
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Speaker 1: a lot of the stems from no one really knows,

432
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Speaker 1: no one really knows what to say, they don't know

433
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Speaker 1: how to say it. They don't know what's exactly taking

434
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Speaker 1: place on a regular basis. Sorry, I'm getting a text

435
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Speaker 1: now that well, we'll get to it. We start talking

436
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Speaker 1: about the Wells farg a little inside news.

437
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, now we're talking.

438
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm looking down. I feel like Adam Schefter here,

439
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm on camera and I'm looking at my phone and

440
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I got breaking news coming in. But look, as far

441
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: as that's concerned, that Johnson is very adamant about not

442
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Speaker 1: being in favor of live. He is very pro PGA tour.

443
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: If a Brooks Kepka goes and wins the US Open,

444
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Speaker 1: can he leave him off that team? He may qualify

445
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Speaker 1: just based on that. But if he finishes eighth in

446
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Speaker 1: the points and has a major championship victory, can you

447
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: leave him off the team. That's going to be a

448
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: really difficult decision. That's going to be very, very interesting

449
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: to watch. I think as we start moving towards Ryder

450
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Speaker 1: Cup later in the year, well.

451
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Speaker 2: It sure feels like regardless of whoever the captain is

452
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Speaker 2: of the President's Cup or the Ryder Cup, Eldrick Tiger

453
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Speaker 2: Woods plays a big pseudo role behind the scenes of

454
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Speaker 2: being a leader of the group, so you know, he's

455
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Speaker 2: pretty anti live, you know, and you speaking a Tiger,

456
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Speaker 2: you had an incredible tweet the other day when you

457
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Speaker 2: just quote or last week when it was announced that

458
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Speaker 2: he had the surgery. I mean, the first line of

459
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Speaker 2: his statement was, I mean it sounds like a surgery

460
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Speaker 2: someone that played for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the nineteen

461
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Speaker 2: seventies would get. I mean, it's just how can this

462
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: your expectations moving forward? I mean, do we see Tiger

463
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Speaker 2: at another major this year? Obviously the PGA feels like

464
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: that's done, but US Open, LACC, the British Open, I mean,

465
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Speaker 2: is he a one tournament guy? But itsually moving forward?

466
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Speaker 2: It feels dire, all right.

467
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Speaker 1: So this segues very nicely into my phone blowing up

468
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Speaker 1: right now and getting some news here. Todd Lewis from

469
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Golf Channel tweeted about a half an hour ago that Joebacava,

470
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Speaker 1: Tiger's Caddy's on the bag of Patrick Cantley this week.

471
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Speaker 1: Matt Minister has been Patrick's caddy for a few years now.

472
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Speaker 1: He's very good caddy in his own right. I'm getting

473
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Speaker 1: text right now that sounds like this may not be

474
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Speaker 1: a one week deal. That this might be more of

475
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Speaker 1: a long term than a short term deal, that Joebacava

476
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Speaker 1: is going to caddy for Patrick Cantley, And if that

477
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Speaker 1: is indeed the case, I think we can read the

478
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Speaker 1: tea leaves pretty easily here and say that Tiger ain't

479
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Speaker 1: coming back anytime soon. For everything I've heard, Major championship

480
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Speaker 1: season is over for him this year. It's a done deal.

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Speaker 1: The next time I think we'd see him would be

482
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Speaker 1: either the PNC Championship, if Charlie can get him out

483
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Speaker 1: there and get him healthy and you know, talk Dad

484
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Speaker 1: into playing there, or the Hero World Challenge which he

485
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Speaker 1: hosts the Bahamas. But he's only gonna do those if

486
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Speaker 1: he's healthy enough. If he's not healthy, he's not gonna

487
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Speaker 1: go out and try to play those. And so, for me,

488
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Speaker 1: my big takeaway after the Masters, and this was even

489
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Speaker 1: before the surgery was announced, but certainly moves it in

490
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Speaker 1: this direction after the surgery as well, John, is that

491
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Tiger's done.

492
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he can't win again, but I think

493
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Speaker 3: the probability of Tiger never playing again is now greater

494
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Speaker 3: than the probability of Tiger winning again.

495
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Speaker 1: And so again, I want to go over that so

496
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Speaker 1: people understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying Tiger will

497
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Speaker 1: never win. I'm not saying Tiger is done. I'm just

498
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Speaker 1: saying that if you asked me, you know, is it

499
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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty between winning again and never playing?

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Speaker 3: And said, now, it's probably closer to sixty forty, maybe

501
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Speaker 3: seventy thirty, and that, you know, for the first time,

502
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Speaker 3: really I came.

503
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Speaker 1: To this conclusion after the Masters. That don't mean he

504
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Speaker 1: can't win, just there's a greater probability that we never

505
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Speaker 1: see him playing golf again on a competitive basis.

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Speaker 2: You know a little bit. It feels like, I mean

507
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Speaker 2: different just because the status of Tiger Woods. But I

508
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: remember when I said, well, did Web Simpson's caddy just

509
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Speaker 2: take off on him for the young hotshot guy that's

510
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: gonna make more money? And he said no, I think

511
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Speaker 2: it was much more Web telling him time to go.

512
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Speaker 2: That's clearly what this would be if Tiger and him,

513
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Speaker 2: you know, because Joe's been obviously he wasn't just gonna

514
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Speaker 2: leave Tiger without his blessing. But these last couple of

515
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Speaker 2: years have been pretty you know, tough. You know, he

516
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Speaker 2: doesn't work you know, and I'm sure Tiger, you know,

517
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Speaker 2: for a notorious cheap guy, probably still takes care of him.

518
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Speaker 2: But this Patrick can't lay. He might be a slow

519
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: player and hard to watch, he is an ATM machine

520
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: and one of the best young players on tour.

521
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Speaker 1: I mean that's it probably takes a bag like that

522
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Speaker 1: for a guy like Joel the confident for whatever reason,

523
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: Like no one ever comes up to you.

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Speaker 3: John, you know, he meets someone somewhere, they go, hey,

525
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: how much you make this year? He talks about that

526
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. If you're a caddy on the PGA.

527
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Speaker 1: Tour, people think it's fair game to be like, so,

528
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: where's your income coming from? How much you make it,

529
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Speaker 1: what kind of percentage you get from those FedEx Cup profits? Like,

530
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: like he talks about their salary in those terms. People

531
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Speaker 1: think just because you're a caddy, then we get to

532
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Speaker 1: talk about your money. From everything I know and everything

533
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Speaker 1: I've heard, Joelakov is doing just fine. That Joe doesn't

534
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Speaker 1: necessarily need to be out there on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: That said, it would probably take a bag like Patrick Cantley.

536
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Speaker 1: We saw this from Bones Mackay a couple of years ago,

537
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Speaker 1: where he'd caddied for Phil Mickelson for twenty five years,

538
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: went to work for NBC. He wasn't hurting by any means.

539
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: It was gonna take a big bag. It was gonna

540
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Speaker 1: take a big time player to get him back caddying,

541
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Speaker 1: and Justin Thomas was that guy, and they won a

542
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Speaker 1: Major together last year, of course, and I'm gonna do

543
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Speaker 1: other big things that I believe very very soon. For Joelkava,

544
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Speaker 1: my guess is that there might have been five players

545
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Speaker 1: in the world who can call him up and say, hey,

546
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Speaker 1: you want to come back. And again, I'm not saying

547
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Speaker 1: this is a done deal. I'm just getting sort of

548
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: little rumors that are being texted to me. But if

549
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Speaker 1: indeed this is more than just a one week thing,

550
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Speaker 1: it probably took one of those guys, and it probably

551
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Speaker 1: has Tiger's blessing too. My guess is that I don't

552
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Speaker 1: see Joe being the kind of person who just goes,

553
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: screw you, Tiger, you're not playing. I'm gonna go caddy

554
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: for someone else. Steve Williams did that years ago.

555
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Speaker 3: Remember Steve Williams, when Tiger was hurt, said all right,

556
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go caddy for Adam Scott for a little bit,

557
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: and Tiger's like, okay, well make it longer than a

558
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: little bit, because you ain't coming back to me.

559
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Speaker 1: And so that's happened before. I can't imagine that's what

560
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: this case is, but we see this a lot lately.

561
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: Your guy Davis Riley was able to pull James Edmondson,

562
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: who had caddied for Ryan Palmer for twenty years, Tomer

563
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: on the tail end of his career, Riley just starting out.

564
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be a money maker for a long time.

565
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Speaker 1: Omer and Edmonson are our best buddies. Palmer said to him, like, look,

566
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Speaker 1: you got to do if you're gonna go make more

567
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: money with this kid, don't make more money for your family.

568
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Speaker 2: I think here's where you would know it was serious, right, Like, obviously,

569
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Speaker 2: if this is just a one off, maybe, but if

570
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Speaker 2: he starts doing this more consistently, you would not have

571
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Speaker 2: a guy that leaves you in the majors right when

572
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Speaker 2: Tiger plays moving forward, So that would that might be

573
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Speaker 2: the telltale sign that it might be all she wrote

574
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Speaker 2: for Elder And honestly, at the Masters, Tiger kind of

575
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: talked about like, I this could be it, not just

576
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: because I have no clue.

577
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Right. At some point, we have to listen to Time.

578
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Speaker 1: I mean we Tiger keeps telling us like, hey, father,

579
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Speaker 1: Time's undefeated. I'm not gonna be out here forever. If

580
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Speaker 1: I can't go out and feel like I can win

581
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: a golf tournament, I'm not just showing up to be

582
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: a ceremonial golfer. And I think most of us have

583
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: looked at me, like, yeah, okay, what we're gonna You're

584
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna be out here when you're sixty eight and still

585
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: have a chance to winning this. It's not true. And

586
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Speaker 1: I think the end is a lot closer than people realize.

587
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: And I think that.

588
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Speaker 1: Because he's come back so many times, because after four

589
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: back surgeries he went out and won the twenty nineteen Masters,

590
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Speaker 1: that we all just assume, Okay, he's out for the

591
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: year and he'll have another surgery and watch out next

592
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Speaker 1: year's Masters. He's going to win that thing. At some point,

593
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: all good things come to an end. And I hope

594
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong about this, and I hope it's it's not

595
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: the end for Tiger. But if you listen to him,

596
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: he has not minced words about this whatsoever over the

597
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: last couple of years that. Look, I ain't gonna be

598
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: out here forever. I'm not going to keep playing petitive golf,

599
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, five times a year if I feel like

600
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Speaker 1: I can't win and I feel like I'm not healthy

601
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Speaker 1: enough to do it, and so I again, it just

602
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if if it's it, if you just

603
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: can't go anymore and can't do it anymore and doesn't

604
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Speaker 1: feel like he can go out and contend, there's really

605
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I think about it. What's the point for Tiger? What

606
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: would be the point for him?

607
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Speaker 2: It doesn't need the money. I mean, it's just his health.

608
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Speaker 2: I mean, he can't. It's not worth not being able

609
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: to walk.

610
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Speaker 1: I mean, so maybe he plays the Masters every year,

611
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: and he comes back and he grinds to make the cut,

612
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: and then he withdraws on Saturday morning because he's too

613
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: injured to go out and play two more rounds. At

614
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: some point you go that you s ain't worth the squeeze.

615
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this anymore.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get into some of the wells Fargo picks,

617
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: I would say, big picture on cam'ta if this eventually becomes,

618
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, a permanent thing. I never pick him for majors,

619
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Speaker 2: partly because I don't really like him. I'm not to

620
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: say he's a bad guy, but I just don't like

621
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: this pace of play. Watch him play it, you would

622
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: say it would feel pretty inevitable in the next two

623
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Speaker 2: or three years that they might get over the hump

624
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: in one of the Big four tournaments, because he's right

625
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: there right now. It's like, well, you see it with

626
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: Cam Young, You've seen it with some of these other guys, you, Scotti, Scheffler.

627
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Speaker 2: Once you get one of those top guys and they're

628
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: already right there, it's like, oh shit, the floodgates might open,

629
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Speaker 2: which is my worst nightmare. I can't watch a guy

630
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Speaker 2: over the next five years win a couple of majors.

631
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Speaker 1: He's almost going to accidentally win a major at some point.

632
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: He's just too good. He's really, really talented. I don't

633
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: know that. It's like I said, Matt Minister is a

634
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: very good caddy, and he's been with him and he

635
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: knows Patrick really well. This is not a matter of like, well,

636
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: he had some guy who couldn't do.

637
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: Yordages and didn't know how to club him, and now

638
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: Joe Lolikova is gonna.

639
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: Come in this week, and he's gonna be great. I mean,

640
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I said the same thing years ago. John Robb was

641
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: working with Adam Hayes, and all of a sudden, Bones mcpie.

642
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Speaker 1: This is when Bones and Phil stopped working together, and everyone' said, oh,

643
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Bones's gonna go work with Rob. Rob needs a great caddy.

644
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, Adam Hayes a pretty damn

645
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: good caddy, and that has worked out for him.

646
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: And so it's not always just hey, change your cat.

647
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: You go to a big name caddy and you start

648
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: winning golf tournaments. But Patrick can't Ley's good enough that

649
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: at some point he was gonna win with his old caddy.

650
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: If indeed this is a new caddy for him and

651
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: it's a long term thing, he's going to win with

652
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: him too. I tend to agree with you that I

653
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Speaker 1: look at him at the majors and he's a nice

654
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: top five, nice top ten ticket for me. I don't

655
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna be playing. Can't lay outright for

656
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: any major's coming up very soon, because he just looks

657
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: a little looks a little nervous, anxious, gets a little slow.

658
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going on.

659
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: He's very analytical, kind of guy, analytical kind of player,

660
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: and you can kind of see the wheels turning as

661
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: he's trying to maneuver his way around the golf course in.

662
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: The back nine of a major championship Sunday. But that said,

663
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: he's good enough that at some point he's going to win.

664
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Speaker 2: He just is totally agree speaking of this week, Wells Fargo,

665
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: you picking my guy Hovelin though I checked it at

666
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: his odds are going up and up, Like his odds

667
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: are really high right now. Another guy that you like

668
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: a lot though, And speaking of caddy movement, Ricky lost

669
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: his caddy to Tom Kim and then Ricky's come storming

670
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: back and looks like he's going to resurrect his career

671
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: and be a really good player again. I kind of

672
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: like him closer thirty five forty to one odds this year.

673
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: But do you think just Aaron Rodgers, you know, he

674
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: just needed a change, Ricky? Was it just time for

675
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: a caddy change? And like, was he gonna resurrect his

676
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: career regardless whether he the guy stayed or left or

677
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: was it just you know, it's just part of the

678
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: evolution of this sport.

679
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: This is a really tough one for me. I know

680
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Ricky really well. I've got to know Joe Scovering really well,

681
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: who caddied for him since his first career event on

682
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. So they worked really really well together

683
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: for a long time. I remember seeing them after a

684
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: miss cut at the Travelers last year. It was Friday,

685
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: early afternoon. They played in the morning, and after they

686
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: missed the cut. I mean, the two of them weren't

687
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: really talking a lot of times. You missed the cut,

688
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: You're kind of going over all the shots with your caddy.

689
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: What could we have done better? What can we take

690
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: from this? And it was just dead silence between them.

691
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: It was very awkward. I just kind of walked away

692
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: after a second. They kind of put their bag down

693
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: near me, and I was kind of standing there and

694
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I was kind of stuck in the moment, and all

695
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, I just became the air

696
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: around them was a little tense. And so I'd like

697
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: to think that they're both good enough guys. They're both

698
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: good enough at their jobs, and at some point it

699
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: was gonna come around for him no matter what. But

700
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: maybe a little different scenery for each of those guys

701
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: has helped. Obviously, Joe's already caddied Tom Kim to a

702
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: victory out there, and Ricky's playing better golf right now.

703
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: And I see this as like the perfect storm for

704
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler. He's won this golf tournament before. He's got

705
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: four top tens and nine career starts at Quill, which

706
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: doesn't even include a top ten at twenty seventeen EGA Championship.

707
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: He's playing really well. All the numbers are good.

708
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: Everything you look for, ball striking wise has been really good.

709
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: I think it's a really good week.

710
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I like everything about Ricky except for that thirty five

711
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to one number. It's just too short for me. I'll

712
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: play it, but I still would have liked forty five

713
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: or fifty to one. I thought that's what we're getting

714
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: coming into the week. Maybe if Scheffler and Rom were

715
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: in the field, everyone kind of backs up a little

716
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: bit and maybe we would have got that forty five

717
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: to one. Thirty five is short, but I'm on him.

718
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna have it. I think he can win.

719
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: He is golf course driving accuracy as much as it

720
00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: is a second shot golf.

721
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: Of course, it's really tee to green.

722
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: It's just give me your guys who can hit it

723
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: long and straight. Give me your guys who could hit.

724
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Mid and long irons really well, it's just a slog

725
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: of a golf course. I heard it was very windy

726
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: out there yesterday. I'm not sure if that wind is

727
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: going to hold throughout the week. But you know, we

728
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: had Carl Paulson playing in the program yesterday. On our

729
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: radio show, CP said he went to go fix a

730
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: ball mark with the tee on the fourteenth green and

731
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: the tea broke. That's how firm these greens are right now.

732
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: So it just takes a really good ball striker. It's

733
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I love Victor Howland tee

734
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: to green. He's been fantastic so far this year. I

735
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: see a lot of comparisons to Tony Fenow, who if

736
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: you were only paying attention to the leader boards going

737
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: into last.

738
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 3: Week, you have said, eh, really uninspired year for Tony Fenow.

739
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: But we have all these strokes game stats.

740
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: What they told us was that going into last week,

741
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: Tony Fenaw was the fourth best player on the PGA

742
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: Tour this season, behind all only Scheffler.

743
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Can't lay in wrong and so that's pretty damn good

744
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: at some point he was two. For some of that,

745
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: they call it positive regression in the industry, which is

746
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: like oxymoronic, does make really any sense, except that it

747
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: sort of does make sense, which is, he's going to

748
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: start playing better based on the numbers the results are coming.

749
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: It's like a pitcher being five and twelve with a

750
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: two seventy two era. You're like, he's actually pitching. Well,

751
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: you got a bad record. At some point they're gonna

752
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: put up runs for him, and he's gonna start getting

753
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: wins as well. I see both Holin and Fowler fitting

754
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: that same profile, which is the performance has sort of

755
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: outclassed the results for the most part this year. Not

756
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: that the results have been bad, but the results could

757
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: be even better based on how they're performing. And I

758
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: think it happens this week the Gala.

759
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: I mean at this point, and I said this on

760
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: my podcast yesterday, but uh, for Thigala, and I throw

761
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: Keith Mitchell in there as well.

762
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: I could mention him every week, but at some point

763
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: going to send me a seasoned assist letter. They're just training.

764
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: Order is coming. I like both these guys every single week,

765
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: and if I mentioned him every week, it's like I'm

766
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: just crying wolf at some point, So I'll reserve judgment

767
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: for the weeks when I really like him. Gall's gonna

768
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: win the Memorial tournament in about a month at Jack's Place,

769
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: so you know, I'll wait to talk him up there.

770
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like him every week because he's really good.

771
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Well, when I heard you describe the conditions of the course,

772
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: it sounded like guys from across the pond. I see

773
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: two guys creeping up toward fifty to one, and Lowry

774
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: and Fleetwood just guys that are comfortable, maybe not to win,

775
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: but just top five's, top tens that are comfortable in

776
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: that environment if it gets hard.

777
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: I like Fleetwood a little bit more than Lowry Fleetwood's.

778
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Fleetwood's played well this year, especially the last couple.

779
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Of months, and he's played well here. Here's what I

780
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: look at, guys who have not just played well at

781
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: a specific golf course in the past, but how are

782
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: they playing when they played well this golf course. So

783
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: Tammy Fleetwood has posted some niceries alts at Quail, but

784
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: he's posted nice results, not when well. He was coming in.

785
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: He had three top tens in his previous three starts,

786
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: and so yeah, he's just playing well, and so he

787
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: did it again that week. Tommy Fleetwood has posted good

788
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: results of this golf course where he wasn't playing well

789
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: coming in, wasn't playing well going out. To me, that's

790
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: a sign that the guy is a good course fit

791
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: and should play well at that place. I like Fleetwood

792
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: more than Lowry when we come to that.

793
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: But again, if you're looking for a guy from across

794
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: the pond who's gonna just ball strike his way to

795
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: the leaderboard this week, it's Hoveland, you know.

796
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: Get you out of here on this. I don't know

797
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: if you guys have talked about this on the radio

798
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: show or the podcast, but about the Ryder Cup team,

799
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: and obviously, you know we mentioned with Brooks and DJ.

800
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: If we just assume maybe those guys won't be involved.

801
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: DJ clearly I don't even know if cares anymore. Brooks

802
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: could win his way where it's gonna be hard to

803
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: keep him off. But let's say he doesn't win. One

804
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: of the majors are the Galla and Ricky, two guys

805
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: that are trending to just have a chance to be

806
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: a captain's pick.

807
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: You know. So I'm gonna do a little work here

808
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: because I hate this. This is like when we go

809
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: over the NBA All Star team and we sit there

810
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: and go, WHW can so and so be left off?

811
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: And then you go, well, who are you gonna take

812
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: off that team? You start looking Wow, I'm not sure

813
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: we take off. So I'm just gonna go straight down

814
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: the world ranking. I started this conversation by saying the

815
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: world ranking is obsolete, and now I'm gonna go down the

816
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: world ranking and look at the Americans. We've got, all right,

817
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Scheffler can't Ley Xander Homa Salataurus is out, so he's

818
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: got He's still ninth in the world. For some reason,

819
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: he's out. Gordon Final, So that's six right there.

820
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: You'd think Ca cam Young, Cam Young is gonna be

821
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: on there.

822
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: You think Sam Burns is there, Morikwa probably JT cam Young.

823
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: So that's ten right there. So to me, we've got

824
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: ten spots that look, unless there's an injury, unless a

825
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: guy really starts slumping, those ten should be on the team.

826
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: From there, it's you.

827
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, really quick, really quick, justin Thomas on scholarship for

828
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: this year.

829
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, JT's on. JT's the Heart and Soul team.

830
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I'm not saying he shouldn't be on. I'm

831
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: just saying, yeah.

832
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good week for JT.

833
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: I think that the JT fades are a little overblown

834
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: right now. He hasn't played great, but it's not like

835
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: this is some lingering thing. I think he needs to

836
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: take a little the internal pressure off himself. He'll start

837
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: playing better and.

838
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: Get any case after those ten, whether it's a live

839
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: guy like a DJ or Koepka or Taylor Gooch, We've

840
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 3: got Kiddy Yama, Keegan Bradley, Sahith, Billy Horsel, Tom Hogy,

841
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: Russell Henley, Brian harm and Chris Carr. So in any case, yes,

842
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: those two other spots are very ripe for the taking.

843
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: And if you told me right now you think it's

844
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: gonna be Thigala and Fowler, I have no problems with

845
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: that whatsoever.

846
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: Like it.

847
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Let's enjoy the Wells Fargo and then the PJA

848
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: Championships right around the corner. And I'm pretty excited about

849
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: on that one. I already got my eye on several guys.

850
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: I actually have some intriguing, tasty odds.

851
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I can't wait to hear you got email

852
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: a little taste of that before we go.

853
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, one guy in his odds aren't

854
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: super great, but I think Cam Young as long as

855
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: he's somewhere twenty five thirty to one. Just you know,

856
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: obviously you're gonna have to bet probably Scheffler or rom

857
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: And to feel pretty, you're gonna have to have some

858
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: exposure on one of those two guys.

859
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: But you're gonna have to and listen.

860
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: As long as I can get Jason Day forty five

861
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: fifty to one range, I'm gonna keep dabbling. I'm gonna

862
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: keep dabbling.

863
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be a good place for Day Gary

864
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: Gary Woodland one hundred to one.

865
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm not there on Woodland yet. Cam Yon is a

866
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: long shot, and one guy right around Cam Young's number

867
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: the guy that I have earmarked for that event right now,

868
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: and again we're two weeks away. We'll see what happens.

869
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: Watch out for Sunjay in I don't think anyone quite

870
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: realizes just how good Sunjay is. He's about ready to

871
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: win a big one as well. Yeah.

872
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: No, he's a name that people hammer in the betting markets,

873
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: and it feels like he's gonna bust through Yep, big right,

874
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a major champion in his career. That

875
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: feels inevitable. Okay, so we'll talk to you next week.

876
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy.

877
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Get in the mailbag. At golo pod, we answered a

878
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: bunch last week, so we are running a little low

879
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: and I will fire through your questions right now at

880
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: golo pod is the old Instagram Our first question from

881
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: Mike question for the pod. I'm transitioning from military to

882
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: the business world. How important is golfing? Learning to golf

883
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: as far as creating relationships and getting deals done? Also,

884
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: any suggestions to someone completely new to golfing as far

885
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: as how to learn and not pick up bad habits, videos, books, programmers, programs,

886
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: beginning clubs. Well. Overall, I think YouTube can solve a

887
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: lot of problems. So any question you have regarding golf

888
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: clubs your own swing, type in that little question to

889
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: the second biggest circuit chartch engine in the world, YouTube,

890
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: and that can help with golf. In terms of business

891
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: and golf, I think the one thing it has going

892
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: for it is it incorporates a lot of things. When

893
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: you're outside the sun shining on you, and two you're

894
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 2: just doing something. Even though it's really hard, kind of fun.

895
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: So it just lightens people up.

896
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: Right.

897
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: If you go to a business meeting, even if it's

898
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: not formal at someone's office, you meet someone for coffee,

899
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: you meet someone for cocktails, you know, it can be hard,

900
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: it can be awkward, right, It can be difficult depending

901
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: on someone else's personality, I would say, and most people

902
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: would agree. If the other person just has somewhat interest

903
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: in golf, they like playing it, they enjoy just doing

904
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: something to instead of just sitting around. It just lightens

905
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: it loosens people up. So when people say that a

906
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: lot of deals get done on the golf course, I

907
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: think a lot of it is just people relax a

908
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: little bit, you know, and then what naturally happens on

909
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: the golf course, probably order a couple of beers. So

910
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: it's a double whammy. You get a little liquid courage

911
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: in you if you're trying to do a deal, you

912
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: loosen them up a little bit, and everyone's just kind

913
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 2: of having a good time. And it's an organic way

914
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: to bullshit.

915
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: Right.

916
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: Sometimes in an office setting, over a coffee, in a

917
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: meeting room, it can just be a little weird. Over

918
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: a zoom, it can just be a little awkward, I'd

919
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: argue in a golf cart, especially that's where you spend,

920
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: it kind of forces you to not be awkward and

921
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: just put your guard down and relax. So I would

922
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: say it definitely has benefits. Now obviously depends on your industry,

923
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: but for most industries, a lot of people play golf

924
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: for a reason. The Mexico Open was fantastic and just

925
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: glossed over it. Love seeing Feen now win. My question

926
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: is do you think Rom is the leader of the PGA?

927
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: Roy just disappeared? Since Rom's Masters and he played in

928
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: multiple elevated events and now a non elevated event. The

929
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: dude doesn't quit except this week he's taking it off.

930
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: Just wish he showed some more personality because he's the

931
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: next PGA elite stud. Well. I think overall Rom is

932
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: currently better than Rory McIlroy. So just in terms of

933
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: one guy is better than the other, Rom is a

934
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: better player than Rory, even though most times when they

935
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: play together their odds are relatively the same. I think

936
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: we all have to agree that if it's the Masters,

937
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: if it's an elevated event, if it's anything so far

938
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: this year, you feel better about betting on John Roum.

939
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: He's more invested, he's less like I saw some quotes

940
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: today that Rory had with some different reporters, like he

941
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: was exhausted, he needed a mental break. John Ram sure

942
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: doesn't feel exhausted now. John's younger. He didn't completely speak

943
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: for the PGA Tour, but he played a pretty big

944
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: role last year. It was like, well, Rory's the pseudo

945
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: commissioner and he kind of was Bull was Rom like

946
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: the CFO to the commissioner. Rom was always talking. They

947
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: offered Roum four hundred dollars. He's told him to kick Rocks.

948
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: He was very very open about his take on liv

949
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: golf and his desire to stay on the PGA Tour.

950
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 2: So I'm with you leader. You know, Rory's just kind

951
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: of the verbal leader for sure. I think Rom is

952
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: kind of the player right now. You know, he's I

953
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: don't know where he will finish, you know, big picture,

954
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: but you know, the most accomplished non filler tiger on

955
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour, and I guess Brooks as well are

956
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: Jordan and Rory because of the majors, because of the wins,

957
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: Rom's coming for him, Rom's coming for him if I

958
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: would expect Rom. I think it's very plausible for him

959
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: to win another major this season, like this season could end.

960
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: Rom might make forty million dollars this season, win multiple majors,

961
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, there's three and we

962
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: go got is Rom. If I was a betting man,

963
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: Rom's gonna finish closer to seven than two. So I

964
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: don't think he's done. And if I was a betting man,

965
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: Rory might have one more in am. I'm not as

966
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: confident on Rory though. Sometimes he can play with you

967
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: because you think he's not playing well, then all of

968
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: a sudden he'll win. Quick follow up on Gooch USGA.

969
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: If the USGA justifies excluding Gooch because the PGA deemed

970
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: him to be no longer eligible and the USGA wants

971
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: to respect that decision of another tour, why would Goots

972
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: then be eligible to qualify for the US Open under

973
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: another criteria. In other words, Gooch can still get in

974
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: if the world ranking remains in the top sixty after

975
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: the PGA Championship. But why would the USGA allow someone

976
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: suspended by the PGA tour in period if their justification

977
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: was they simply are honoring the protocol of the PGA.

978
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: What if a player wasn't eligible under PGA Tour for

979
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: violation of the pd rule. This is getting really deep.

980
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: I think the PGA Tour once he was deemed ineligible

981
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: for the Tour Championship, which if you qualify for the

982
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Tour Chachampionship the top thirty, like Thigala, you get into

983
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: all the majors. So Gooch qualified for that last year,

984
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: but because he left to live, he was actually ineligible

985
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: to play in the thing.

986
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Right.

987
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: Remember he was like down the street in his car

988
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: when the ruling went the other way. Now we all

989
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: have to agree, Taylor Gooch is a top thirty player

990
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: in the world. Taylor Gooch should be playing in all

991
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: the majors, but right now he doesn't fit the criteria.

992
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 2: Now he can just qualify for the US Open, right

993
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: There are qualifiers all over America. It's why it's called

994
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: the United States Open. Friend of mine, neighbor of mine

995
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: growing up, Tyler Raber did that, qualified his way into

996
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: a US Open. So if he can do it, Taylor Gooch,

997
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: sure as hell can. Now I've heard a lot of like, well,

998
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: if Taylor Gooch is this good, shouldn't he be able to.

999
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: It's not that easy, you know. I Mean, you get

1000
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: a couple of wayward drives when you're playing like you're

1001
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: not going to. But I I do understand where Phil's

1002
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: coming from. Like, it's not about Phil. Phil's in these

1003
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: majors because he won at Kiawa. He's got a lifetime

1004
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 2: exemption to the Masters, He's eligible for the British Open

1005
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: until he's sixty, obviously, the PGA Championship he's playing in

1006
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future, and the US Open. But like Taylor,

1007
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Goot should be in the majors. But like this was

1008
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: the controversial element of Live. Once you guys left, you

1009
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: guys were gonna lose some of your status. Now you

1010
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: can bitch and moan after the fact, but the rules

1011
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: are the rules. Like some things in life, we can

1012
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: push the envelope. And I'm a big believer in that.

1013
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: I've been pushing the envelope in things my entire life.

1014
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure many people listening have as well. But sometimes

1015
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: when you do that and you just go, we'll figure out,

1016
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: we'll pick up the pieces after we break through this wall,

1017
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, professionally right, sometimes you look back

1018
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: and you're like well now it's time to well, no,

1019
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: it's actually not gonna work. That's not gonna happen. And

1020
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: I think some of those guys are staring at that reality.

1021
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: And Taylor Gooch obviously is the most unique because he

1022
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: was this young up and comer who was trending to

1023
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: be a top twenty player and he left and someone

1024
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: texts me today. You know, in Australia they have like

1025
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: a forty five percent tax rate. So when Gooch won

1026
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: the four million dollars, it was actually a little more.

1027
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: Because his team won in Australia for let's say five

1028
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 2: million bucks, he ended up getting taxed at a super

1029
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: high rate in Australia, and then based off whatever he

1030
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: has left, he gets tax off that when he gets

1031
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: back to America. So he actually only took home like

1032
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: one point four million dollars, which is still a ton

1033
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: of money. But when you factor in, like he just

1034
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: made four point seventy five million dollars, to only look

1035
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: at your bank account and see whatever it was like

1036
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: one three five or one four five gotta piss him

1037
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: off a little bit. But I don't think these guys

1038
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: are geting screwed right now. Now, me and Sobel talked

1039
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: about it. They're gonna figure something out. But sometimes when

1040
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: you make your bed, you gotta lay in it. And

1041
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: they got highly paid and compensated to make this jump.

1042
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Taylor Gooch knew what he was getting into that it

1043
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: might not work out. Now, he's probably optimistic. He was

1044
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: probably hopeful, but sometimes you know, you hope a little

1045
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: too long, reality doesn't turn in your favor. And that's

1046
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: right now. Sucks for him, But you know, I would

1047
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 2: imagine he wouldn't have made Who knows, maybe he would

1048
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: have won on the PGA Tour this year. He's a

1049
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: really good player. He's a really really good player, but

1050
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't feel that much sympathy for him right now. Now.

1051
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: Eventually they're gonna have to change this, but like most

1052
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: things in life, things don't happen immediately. Things take some time.

1053
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: Right like, eventually in a year, maybe we'll have the

1054
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: way for the live guys who aren't you know, on

1055
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: these that don't have unlimited status because they've won a major,

1056
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: or their world ranking is still really high or whatever.

1057
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they have a way to qualify in but right

1058
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: now they don't, Like I don't expect the the golf

1059
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: world just to immediately change for them. He'd be like, well,

1060
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: just it's only been whatever, eight months. It hasn't been

1061
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: that long. So I think we do need to pump

1062
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 2: the brakes a little bit about all the complaining from Phil.

1063
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: It's like, holy fuck, Phil, You've made so much money.

1064
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: How do you complain so much? Yeah? I like you,

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Speaker 2: but geez, Louise, you just always pointing the finger at

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Speaker 2: someone else. Just how about you just enjoy yourself and

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Speaker 2: the money that you just got from Saudi Arabia, which

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Speaker 2: is a lot. Audios, have a good week. We will

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Speaker 2: have a football podcast come out on Friday. Turns out

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love got an extension, not the fifth year option.

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Speaker 2: I will have some thoughts on that come Friday as well.

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Speaker 2: As I just saw Aaron Rodgers tell McAfee that Garrett

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Speaker 2: Wilson is pretty pretty good. Later