WEBVTT - Celebrities and Divorce…Are They Crazy?! 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:18.880 I Do, Part two is a one of a kind 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.840 podcast that is all about dating, love, relationships, and what 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.319 life is like after divorce and celebrities are just like 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.040 us and not all over their relationships ending happily ever after, 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.080 especially it seems right now a lot of them are divorced, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.919 are going through at this time of year. I'm one 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.479 of your celebrity mentors, Bob Guiney. You know me from 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.960 The Bachelor and The Today Show and my podcast Almost 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.800 Famous to OG's and today we are joined by another 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:45.680 celebrity mentor which I'm very excited to formally meet, you 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.040 know her and love her on this podcast, also former 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.440 Real Housewife of New York, Kelly ben Simone. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:51.880 Kelly, thank you so much for being here. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:53.760 Hi, Bob, how are you? 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:55.760 I am great? How are you? 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.360 I'm well? Happy? Post Thanksgiving? We had so much fun 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.160 and then not so much fun. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.520 Oh oh okay, let's get into I was gonna say, yeah, 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.720 I'm still I'm still at my mom's house in Michigan, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.760 actually visiting with my mom today and you know, so, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.720 I'm I'm having some some technical challenges just getting that 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.480 that dial up internet to work properly. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.480 But how how was your Thanksgiving Mine was pretty good. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:21.480 You know. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:21.960 It's funny. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.080 It's like, is you know, because we're both from from 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.200 the Midwest, but you know, we do have the internet 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:27.560 in the Midwest. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:28.320 Yes, we did. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.960 We did everything that we like don't have internet, we 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.440 don't have cars. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.880 We even have whole foods. We've got it all out here, but. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.840 Yeah, we have Yeah, exactly exactly. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.000 I got like my mom's got like a hamstrung and 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.000 we all just running to keep that dial up down 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.680 for me. I'm totally kidding, of course, but yeah, getting 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.520 hooked up here was not the easiest thing for me 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.400 to do today. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.680 I'm that's so funny. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.480 Nobody was like it was like there was the friends giving, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.640 then the Thanksgiving, and it seemed like there was like 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:55.640 a lot of un giving. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:57.919 Yeah, so it seems like we've. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.960 Got, yeah, a lot of stuff in the news obviously, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.320 But was that personal or was that was that more 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.160 like a broader comment. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.080 It's just a broader comment. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.280 I just I just feel like there's just like so 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:15.880 many whether it's reality stars, celebrities, you know, some people 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.000 are trying to make it work and other people are 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.280 just not making it work at all. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.640 Just we've just seen so much. You know, I thought 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.080 it was going. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.400 To be a really positive like I'm feeling very positive, 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.280 just going through therapy and working with you know, with 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.160 the podcast Bob. It's been Honestly, it's been so incredibly 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.000 cathartic for me. I just feel like a different person. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.680 Like people are like you look different, the way I 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.880 sound is different. The way I am approaching everything is different. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.360 And so for me, I'm like the anomaly because everyone 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.000 else is like breaking up. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:53.160 Well I do. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.880 I do feel like at the end of the year especially, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.239 I don't know why, but it seems like at the 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.160 end of an election year for sure, But at the 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.280 end of every year, you know, you start hearing about 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.919 the uncoupling starting to happen amongst uh, you know. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.240 What does that uncoupling that I don't know. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.239 I just read an article yesterday with Gwyneth Paltrow and 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.080 and maybe that's why that came to my mind. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.360 But yeah, you're hearing about the end of the year 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:16.360 at a lot of people. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.720 Getting divorced, right, And I don't know if it's just 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.800 that they've been quiet about it, you know, up until 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.079 the end of the year, and they're like, Okay, hell 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.600 with it, let's launch fresh and new into twenty twenty five. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.639 Or if it's really just come to a head because 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.440 the stress of the holidays, you know what I mean. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.920 Does she just not like the D word and she 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.600 likes the C word or what is that? 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.160 I know, just see where that could be taken in 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.000 so many different ways. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.360 I don't get that. I didn't get that. I was like, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.080 that's so odd. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.760 That's a very. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.840 Weird way of saying we're not together. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.960 But yeah, I think it's always interesting, you know, every 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.440 year at the end of the year and then man, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.280 you know, I mean some some of the people that 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.360 will that are in the news right now we both 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.520 probably have met or am know and many of them 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.880 obviously we all know from Afar. But the news is 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.880 just really blowing up right now with people splitting up. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.360 And I will say this, you know, as a divorced man. 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.680 I I did get divorced, or I should say, at 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:19.359 least like formally separated around the holidays. I don't know 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.200 if it was just because you're thinking, you know, or 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.760 whoever asks for that moment is thinking, I don't want 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.600 to have to go bananas. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:32.400 I'm buying a gift this year, you know, like they're like, oh, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.360 but don't repeat that, don't repeat that. Wait, so seriously, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.960 what so I have a couple of questions for you, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.080 but I would love to know more about that, like 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.080 how did that happen? 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.160 Well, when my ex and I split up, we were 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.440 living on separate coasts for quite some time, so it 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.320 was a it was kind of an organic thing. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.040 We have all just sort of grown apart. In fact, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.960 we're still very friendly and close. Like it's not it 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:54.760 was never a bad thing. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.800 And I'm remarried with kids and she's remarried with kids, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.159 you know, so or with a child, So it was 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.720 never like a talk thing. It was more like, just, uh, 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.039 you know, are we gonna, you know, fake it for 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:06.120 the families again this year? 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:06.880 Or what are we doing? 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.240 You know. I'm not saying that that was the actual conversation, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.000 but it was definitely one of those things. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:11.320 I think. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.279 I think there is a little bit to that, like 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.880 you're rolling into the new year and you're kind of like, man, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.919 we're supposed to be, you know, kissing at midnight. 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.800 Did you guys just feel like the distance was just 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.440 too much? Did you feel like disconnected from the distance? 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.240 What we were like, yeah, the disconnection was real, like 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.080 it was. It was you know, it became a thing 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.279 where you're living such separate lives. You know, the time, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.040 the time change. You know, it's one of those things. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:36.640 I think, the time change. It can be your friend 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.560 in a lot of ways, but can also it can 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.039 also create issues. You know, like you know, if if 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.880 you're the one that's on the East coast and you know, 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.400 you're you're trying to go to bed so you can 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.280 get up for work in the morning, and the one 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.040 on the West coast, you know, is out at the 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.960 bar having a couple of cocktails and decides to call 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.720 you at you know, eleven o'clock at night. That's two 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.679 in the morning. You know, maybe that doesn't so happy. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.560 You're not making you so happy that that's the types 0:05:58.600 --> 0:05:59.000 of things. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:05:59.799 Who knows. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.400 I mean, I think there's a million things, but it's 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.520 more just allowing life to get in the way. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.080 And then when you guys saw I'm sorry, I just 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.359 curious because like there's a lot of people that do 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.880 that really are into these, especially people that are on 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.400 riot because there's like people say that like Ria is 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.000 like the land of the Broken Toys, but there's a 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:14.839 lot of people. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.880 That, you know, I've never been on a dating app. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.560 I do with the old fashion way and handout flowers 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.000 on TV, so I don't understand this new fangled dating 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:24.480 app thing. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:25.960 I hand out flowers on TV. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.560 Well, not everyone is like you, Bob, but no, my no, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.200 I'm curious because like a lot of these you know, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.880 people and that are on these dating apps are like 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.120 I'm meeting these guys and all these different places. I'm like, 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.120 that's great because if you travel somewhere, then the apps 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.400 actually follow you and they're like, oh, you're in an 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.520 airport in Chicago. There's four guys that are in Chicago, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.440 and people are meeting these people all over the place. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.440 And I was just curious as to like how you 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.599 like obviously that they you know, being a part was 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.120 was was difficult, but like when, for example, when you 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.680 did get together, like you together every two weeks or 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.400 I'm just I'm not I. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.760 Think that was like usually the longest time frame was 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.800 that kind of a time frame. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.080 But I didn't take you guys a while to get 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.280 back together once you like, you know, yeah. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.000 I think I think that's when you start to realize it, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 Like when it when you're young and dating, right, and 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.080 it's like that's kind of stuff's exciting, right, It's like, oh, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:18.840 we're going to meet up in Chicago. You know, this 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.120 is amazing. I'm I'm in la you know, she's in 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.080 New York. This would be great. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.240 But when you're you know, when you're when you've been 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:24.600 married for. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.120 Quite some time and you know, obviously that's when you 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.280 start talking about everything from you know, the checkbook to 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:34.360 you know, family, holidays and the real stresses of life start. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.600 To take their toll on people. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.040 I think when you reconnect it does take a little 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.520 bit of you know, a bumping up session, like you 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.280 got to actually almost kind of get back up to 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.840 speed with one another because you have talked about a lot, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.760 probably a lot of superficial stuff. But you know, at 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.640 least I think the relationships that can survive that stuff, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.600 that's great, you know, But I think that was the 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.080 hardest part, probably both in the entertainment industry, both going 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.000 a million miles an hour. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.120 Both I mean. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.480 Probably you know, error on the side of will being 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.360 a little self absorbed because you had to be from 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.600 the standpoint of you know, I can't miss the gym 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.080 and I can't do this and I can't do that, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.320 so you know, I'll push my call back twenty minutes. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.040 It's okay, you know. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.600 So I think it's it's all the stuff that happens, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.560 you know, it just happens in life, especially when you're 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:24.160 in your outward persona is probably as cultivated and has 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:29.520 as important at those times than your real life inward persona. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.959 So you know, from that perspective, I probably stand guilty 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.160 of that one too, you know. Probably you know, i'd 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.959 be on the phone and someone will come up, Hey. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:37.559 Can we get a pictures? 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.040 Oh? Yeah, sure, I'll call you right back, you know, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.160 as opposed to you know, no thanks, I'm in the 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.600 middle of a very important phone call with someone I haven't. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:44.400 Seen in ten days. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.679 You know, I think I think there's some of that too, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.080 you know, you feel those pressures, and I don't know, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:49.960 I mean, who knows. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.400 I mean we're talking about you do you people? 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.760 Well, I know I'm from the bottom rung of the ladder, 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.240 but not like from the ben Affleck penthouse view, you know, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.160 and he's going through it right now, so who knows. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.360 Well, you know, it's like it's interesting because I put 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.760 it like I'm not. I don't do in coupling, but 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.160 I like to put names on things. I mean, I 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.760 have children that are older, they're twenty four and twenty six, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.600 So I like to like categorize things. That's how I 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:17.840 keep my life organized. And so I talk about like housekeeping, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.400 not like housekeeping like mopping the floor, but housekeeping is 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:22.640 like the things. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:22.920 That we have to do. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.839 I talk about with but with you know, people that 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.080 I'm dating, you know, my children, Like, here's the housekeeping. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.880 So it's like we've gotten, you know, certain things that 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.199 we need to get off the list, and then you 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.040 can go on and just kind of like get a 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.720 coffee and walk around, you know, go to an exercise class, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:39.880 go to the movies. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:40.520 Or you know whatever. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.600 But I may get the work done first and then 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.320 play after kind of personal. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.520 Well that's smart. I think that's really smart. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.600 I think, you know, that's probably a very mature way 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.760 to look at it because I think, like the only 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.400 housekeeping I was doing at that time, and I love 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.600 the metaphor, so I'm running with it. I was sweeping 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.240 things under the rug, right if I was housekeeping, it 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:02.520 was like, ah, you know, well, I'm not gonna. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:03.480 Let that piss me off to much. I'm just gonna 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.440 sleep the under the dragon. But we didn't have kids. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.400 We didn't have children together, so I didn't have kids 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.480 until after I met my wife. Now, so I think 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.840 with kids comes a totally different mindset, and you know, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.920 you know that of course from your experiences, and it's like, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.920 you know, you have children with someone and it becomes 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.200 all consuming, right, I mean, my wife and I go 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:26.120 through it now every day. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.199 It's like I don't remember the last time. Well, actually 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:28.839 I shouldn't say that. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.720 This weekend we made a point of talking about stuff 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.240 that didn't have to do with the kids, which I 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:33.880 loved because it was like, you know, under the you know, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.160 my son's birthday was this weekend, and everything's about the kids. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:37.640 And thank you. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.120 Yes, he's just friends six. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.160 So I'm fifty three and I've got an now six 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.720 year old and a three year old and I didn't 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.040 start until later in life with my kids, and I mean, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.360 it's it's definitely a different set of challenges at this age. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.520 Yeah, I raised my kids on my own, so I 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.760 didn't really have the dynamic of like, you know, what 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.920 are his thoughts because there were only my thoughts. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.920 Which is instant because you guys were still were you 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.320 still together during during all the first I'm sure the 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.400 first several years, right. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.319 And then the first several years, but he was traveling 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.920 a lot, so he was gone all the time, and 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.280 it was just basically me and my parents raising my 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.480 two girls. Yeah, and so I never really had that, 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.719 but I mean I do know that from you know, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.920 when you're when I'm because I've been single for so 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:30.480 long that when I do meet guys that, you know, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.920 my narrative is not about my kids with them because 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.360 they're not a part of my children's lives, right, So 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.640 that like is kind of is kind of good. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.040 But then I realized. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.439 That there is this like weird separate life. So it's 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.800 kind of like I'm cheating on my kids. I'm cheating 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.720 him because my life with him is totally different from 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.000 my life with my children before you know, they before 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.000 they become friends. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.280 So it's just you know, doating that early, right, I 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:02.679 mean even though kids are older. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.800 Yeah, you're pumping the brakes on all that stuff, right, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:05.160 I mean. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.959 Yeah, yeah, I try to keep it. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.640 I try to keep it as as you know, my 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.440 kids are always like we want to meet them. We 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.040 want to see who's this person. Yeah there's you know, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.200 you've been going on a couple of days to want 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:18.719 to know the person is. And I mean, I think 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.440 just because they're like literally hawks, they're like these people, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:23.480 what are they doing? 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:23.920 Oh? 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.200 What are their intentions? 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:26.160 Right? 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.480 They're very protective of me, which is very sweet. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.520 Are you dating right now? 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.440 Are you dating someone specific right now as you go 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.240 into the holiday season, or were you kind of like 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.680 not gonna buy anybody any special gifts this holiday season. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:37.600 I'll wait till the new year. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.280 I love it's all about gifts. By the way, that's 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.720 my love language is gift giving. So like you're like, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.839 I love to give gifts, and I'm not like, oh 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.360 my god, like if I give you something, I have 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:48.200 to give you something back. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.600 I just love to give gifts. But I am like 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:51.840 I've been dating. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.319 I honestly, I don't even like I almost get uncomfortable 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.520 receiving gifts. I like giving stuff, but I like you 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.480 because if I want something, I just go get it right. 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.680 And I'm the hardest person to buy for. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.160 And everybody tells me they're like, well, yeah, I mean 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.760 everything everything we think to get for you you will 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.680 go get yourself, which is true, and so I really 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.320 enjoy it. I'm like, I'm like you in that regard. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:11.959 I wonder if that's my love language. I've never done 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.439 the love language thing. I need to find that I 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:14.160 should do it. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:14.959 You know that. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.840 And also to know, like what kind of personality type 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.679 you want. I just did that the other day because 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.559 my youngest daughter was like, Mommy, you need to find 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.160 out what kind of personality you have. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.360 I'm like, I know what kind of personality I have. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.240 Dial everybody else. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:41.800 Everybody knows what kind of personality I have. You were 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.080 asked about you know what I was doing lately in terms. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.520 Of my dating life. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.319 Yes, And you know I have gone on many dates 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:57.079 and I've met some very very very great, some really 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.280 great guys. And I did this her size where I 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:08.960 wrote a love letter to my future husband and I wrote, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:13.800 you know, wrote down and I manifested what he looks like, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.400 who I'm going to be to him, what I'm not 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:22.360 going to do, what I hope for that will happen 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:28.440 for us. And it just really changed when you articulate 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.800 the things that you really want versus just like thinking 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.480 them in your head. If you write them down, if 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.400 you tell a friend, if you you know, like I 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.600 was talking to Cheryl Burke about it, you know, if 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:39.720 you're talking about. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:41.560 I talk to her in years. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.760 She's amazing, She's talk about a mindful human. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.960 Oh cow, She's always been so sweet. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.320 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful human. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:55.640 I've met so many great women and men, and I 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.360 just it's been it's been a really interesting journey for me, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:02.240 just because you know, you come from the Bachelor. I 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.280 come from Housewives, and you know, the Bachelor is more about, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.600 you know, loving and relationships and getting to know people. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.320 Housewives is about like how can I destroy you the quickest? 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.960 Yeah, you know what I have to tell you. So 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.320 my wife loves the Housewives. And I would always act 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.000 like I wasn't watching right, and so you watching, I'm like, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.120 oh my god, you're watching this again, Like what do 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.840 you get out of watching people argue like this? And 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.400 then I'd be walking out of the room on it 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.880 and I'd be like, wait a minute, what did Darrendad 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.120 just say? Like I would literally like I was getting 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.880 into osmosis and I was so into it without even 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.880 realizing I was into it that Oh my god, it 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.280 was driving me crazy. But but yeah, I've always you know, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.280 and I and I remember when you were just you. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:45.760 Just came back on the show last year for a 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.120 couple episodes. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:47.800 For Ultimate Girl's Trip. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:53.040 Yeah, and that was. I read a thing just a 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:53.520 minute ago. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:16:00.920 It was called sun Sand and Psychosis, Carrie Island. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.440 Scary Island. It's so funny. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.120 How was that experience to go on something like Scary 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.480 Island and know that, okay, buzz are off. I'm sure 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.080 you know we're just gonna we're gonna buckle down, and 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.720 it's gonna be someone's gonna drink too much. You know, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.840 someone's gonna you know whatever. I mean, when you go 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.040 into that thing, how do you mentally prepare? I mean 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.000 I would go to therapy for months just to get 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:23.520 ready to go. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.400 So before I went on Scary Island, I went to 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.240 Scary Island. I got extensions, so I was feeling gorgeous. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.560 Yes, I'm gonna say, you gotta go in your best 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.760 like your best friend of mind the whole way around. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:38.120 I did. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.200 I got I literally, my the my hair does. Who's amazing. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.400 He was like, you know what, He's like, We're gonna 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.200 give you the best hair. So whatever happens, you're just 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.880 gonna be like feeling so good doesn't matter. So I 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.960 got my I had to put these had these extension 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.040 put in my hair, and I just it's like, you know, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.600 when like something happens, like I don't know, you get 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.680 a haircut or whatever. I just felt so good. I 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.200 felt so like good about myself. And I think that 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.000