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Speaker 1: I Do, Part two is a one of a kind

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Speaker 1: podcast that is all about dating, love, relationships, and what

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Speaker 1: life is like after divorce and celebrities are just like

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Speaker 1: us and not all over their relationships ending happily ever after,

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Speaker 1: especially it seems right now a lot of them are divorced,

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Speaker 1: are going through at this time of year. I'm one

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Speaker 1: of your celebrity mentors, Bob Guiney. You know me from

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor and The Today Show and my podcast Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous to OG's and today we are joined by another

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Speaker 1: celebrity mentor which I'm very excited to formally meet, you

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Speaker 1: know her and love her on this podcast, also former

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Speaker 1: Real Housewife of New York, Kelly ben Simone.

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Speaker 2: Kelly, thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Bob, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I am great? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm well? Happy? Post Thanksgiving? We had so much fun

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Speaker 3: and then not so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, let's get into I was gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still at my mom's house in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: actually visiting with my mom today and you know, so,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm having some some technical challenges just getting that

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Speaker 1: that dial up internet to work properly.

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Speaker 2: But how how was your Thanksgiving Mine was pretty good.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 4: It's like, is you know, because we're both from from

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did.

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Speaker 4: We did everything that we like don't have internet, we

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Speaker 2: We even have whole foods. We've got it all out here, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: I got like my mom's got like a hamstrung and

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Speaker 1: we all just running to keep that dial up down

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Speaker 1: for me. I'm totally kidding, of course, but yeah, getting

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Speaker 3: I'm that's so funny.

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Speaker 4: Nobody was like it was like there was the friends giving,

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Speaker 4: then the Thanksgiving, and it seemed like there was like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it seems like we've.

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Speaker 1: Got, yeah, a lot of stuff in the news obviously,

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Speaker 1: But was that personal or was that was that more

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Speaker 3: It's just a broader comment.

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Speaker 4: I just I just feel like there's just like so

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Speaker 4: many whether it's reality stars, celebrities, you know, some people

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Speaker 3: Just we've just seen so much. You know, I thought

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Speaker 4: To be a really positive like I'm feeling very positive,

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Speaker 4: just going through therapy and working with you know, with

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Speaker 4: the podcast Bob. It's been Honestly, it's been so incredibly

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Speaker 4: cathartic for me. I just feel like a different person.

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Speaker 4: Like people are like you look different, the way I

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Speaker 4: And so for me, I'm like the anomaly because everyone

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Speaker 4: else is like breaking up.

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Speaker 2: Well I do.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like at the end of the year especially,

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Speaker 2: What does that uncoupling that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just read an article yesterday with Gwyneth Paltrow and

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you're hearing about the end of the year

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Speaker 1: Getting divorced, right, And I don't know if it's just

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Speaker 1: Or if it's really just come to a head because

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Speaker 3: Does she just not like the D word and she

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Speaker 2: I know, just see where that could be taken in

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Speaker 3: I don't get that. I didn't get that. I was like,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's always interesting, you know, every

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Speaker 1: year at the end of the year and then man,

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Speaker 2: And I will say this, you know, as a divorced man.

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Speaker 1: I I did get divorced, or I should say, at

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Speaker 4: I'm buying a gift this year, you know, like they're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: what so I have a couple of questions for you,

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Speaker 4: how did that happen?

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Speaker 1: Well, when my ex and I split up, we were

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Speaker 2: We have all just sort of grown apart. In fact,

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Speaker 1: And I'm remarried with kids and she's remarried with kids,

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm not saying that that was the actual conversation,

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Speaker 1: I think there is a little bit to that, like

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Speaker 4: Did you guys just feel like the distance was just

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a million things, but it's

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Speaker 4: And then when you guys saw I'm sorry, I just

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Speaker 4: curious because like there's a lot of people that do

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Speaker 2: That, you know, I've never been on a dating app.

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Speaker 1: I do with the old fashion way and handout flowers

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Speaker 3: I hand out flowers on TV.

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Speaker 4: Well, not everyone is like you, Bob, but no, my no,

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Speaker 4: I'm curious because like a lot of these you know,

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Speaker 4: And I was just curious as to like how you

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Speaker 4: But I didn't take you guys a while to get

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's when you start to realize it,

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Speaker 1: Quite some time and you know, obviously that's when you

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Speaker 2: To take their toll on people.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's it's all the stuff that happens,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just happens in life, especially when you're

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Speaker 1: So you know, from that perspective, I probably stand guilty

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Speaker 1: of that one too, you know. Probably you know, i'd

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Speaker 1: be on the phone and someone will come up, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Can we get a pictures?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, sure, I'll call you right back, you know,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, no thanks, I'm in the

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Speaker 2: Seen in ten days.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I think there's some of that too,

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Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about you do you people?

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Speaker 1: Well, I know I'm from the bottom rung of the ladder,

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Speaker 3: They're very protective of me, which is very sweet.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And you know I have gone on many dates

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Speaker 4: I've met so many great women and men, and I

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Speaker 4: They're like, Okay, we're just gonna go after her. This

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Speaker 1: My wife's name is Jessica, but I call her Canyon,

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Speaker 4: No. What happened was we were supposed to be she

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Speaker 1: You can't help yourself, you know, and it's like, you know,

443
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 1: if you're not giggling, it's kind of your own damn fault,

444
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 1: Like why would you be here if you can't have fun?

445
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 2: You know.

446
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,919
Speaker 4: I just I just love the fact that where we

447
00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 4: are today is that we're able to talk honestly. I mean,

448
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 4: for me to talk to a male honestly about your

449
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,360
Speaker 4: feelings and like uncoupling. During the uncoupling here I said

450
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 4: that word. Don't have to figure out a new word.

451
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 4: I mean, like I need to like figure out a

452
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 4: new word, but to be able to like, to be

453
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 4: able to you know, especially, I think what's I think

454
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,439
Speaker 4: what I admire about it is that you did it

455
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 4: during the holidays. But also what I don't like about

456
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,919
Speaker 4: it is that you did during the holidays, because I

457
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 4: think what people are what people are talking about, is

458
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 4: that their feelings. But it's more it's like your mother

459
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 4: may be invested, your brother may be invested, you know,

460
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 4: your your family may be like we really like that person,

461
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 4: or maybe they don't really like that person, and so

462
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,959
Speaker 4: it's just like it's just more than just two people.

463
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never like all need the two.

464
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 4: I agree, And I think that during the holidays it's

465
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 4: so hard. I mean, first of all, you go home

466
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 4: to the holidays and you know, someone's like, your hair

467
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 4: is too short, you got oh did you gain weight?

468
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: Oh, you're too skinny. You do this da da da dah.

469
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 4: Or just like the pressure of you know, doing well

470
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 4: and creating a life for yourself during the holidays is

471
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 4: like literally under a microscope, coupled with the fact that

472
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 4: maybe your feelings are a little wild because you're not

473
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 4: feeling the vibe of your you know, your wife or

474
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 4: your husband being far away, or you're you know, you've

475
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 4: you've had some issues with cheating or whatever it is,

476
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,959
Speaker 4: or it's just it's under a microscope and it just

477
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 4: gets really really and then like the turkey does is dry?

478
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: That just triggers you. It's no, yeah, it's so true. No,

479
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm really gonna like lose it.

480
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: What else could possibly go wrong with stuffing our relationships over?

481
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's so funny.

482
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: I think I think people do though you have these

483
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: heightened expectations, but yeah, right, I mean then you factor

484
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: in the family component and you know, that's like I

485
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: always you know, the cool thing that that I kind

486
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: of got to experience, at least through my ex wife

487
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: and my split, which was again many years ago now,

488
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: but was that I still really enjoyed our family, you know,

489
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 1: and I still do keep in touch with so many

490
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: of them, and so it was like and it was

491
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: never that kind of throw the baby out with the

492
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 1: bathwater type of situation. Pardon the expression, but you know

493
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: it's it wasn't like and that's it fine line in.

494
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 2: The sand, you know. For me, I'm like, no, this

495
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: isn't their fault. This is our fault.

496
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: Like I love them and they're good people and they

497
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: love me, So we're going to remain in touch with

498
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: one another and we all still like each other. It

499
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: wasn't like, you know, it was it was actually a

500
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: nice I don't know, it was it was the right

501
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: thing to do to not stay married and and and

502
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: at that time, I guess, and but it was also

503
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: like we saw it for what it was, what it was,

504
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: and we saw the bigger picture, and we were like,

505
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: we don't have to be at each other's throats about

506
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: stuff we've never met each other's throats about, like, you know.

507
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 3: So that's super interesting because.

508
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 4: You know, like with when we're talking about like exes

509
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 4: and things like that, Like I recently called off a

510
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: wedding and I loved my ex's mother. She was just

511
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 4: a She is a beautiful, beautiful, mindful, smart, sassy, creative,

512
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: incredible woman. And I I literally wrote her a text

513
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: like a month ago and I was just just like,

514
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: I just miss you. Hope you're well, because I do.

515
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: I just love her so much. So I feel badly

516
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: about that. But what about Ben Jen? And Jen like,

517
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's like I liked you, but then I

518
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: like you, but then you're my like first, like like

519
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on that?

520
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: You know?

521
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: So I always I use the term don't be ben

522
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: Affleck a lot in life, and I will tell you

523
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: why not because not because.

524
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: It's a flack.

525
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 4: It's afflect, I know, but I think of like I afflect.

526
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a flac. I always like, I always

527
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: think of it.

528
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I've only met Ben once and

529
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: he was very nice to me hosting a charity event. Uh,

530
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: but in my life I always think like guys go

531
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor and hand out a few flowers and

532
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: next thing. You know, they think they're Ben Affleck, and

533
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you're not Ben Affleck. You're dude

534
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: to hand it out flowers on a TV show. Move on, right,

535
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: And so I go back to your life if other

536
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: things come up, as but don't be the dude who's

537
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: just you know, planning himself there waiting for a lead

538
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: in a new movie.

539
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: You didn't write any movies, you're not doing movies, you know, whatever.

540
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: And so when all this stuff started coming up, you know,

541
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: first of all, I love Jennifer Garner. You know, when

542
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: Ben and jen Jennifer Lopez were together the first time

543
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: and then they split up and ends up with Jennifer Garner.

544
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, this dude, like, honestly, he's just like crushing

545
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: it in the game of life, right, he gets Jennifer

546
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Lopez and Jennifer Garner. How amazing, and then you know,

547
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: messes that up somehow and ends up going back to

548
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, which I'm like, Okay, I could see this

549
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: whole thing transition and making sense, and then they kind

550
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: of liked it.

551
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if they gave me like a warm,

552
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 4: fuzzy feeling. I was like, they're cute together.

553
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't clearly they clearly love each other so much.

554
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: Yes, but I think you know, I think Ben and

555
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: part of me is like, man, he's he's going to

556
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: get himself right. You know you mentioned mentioned therapy and

557
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: different things like that. Like, man, I love therapy. I

558
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: haven't gone in a while. Probably could use some some

559
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: buffer sessions for sure.

560
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 4: But I always think and it's changed so much. I mean,

561
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 4: it's changed. It's so different. Therapy today is so different

562
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: than it's amazing, it's amazing.

563
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you.

564
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: He needs to like clean himself up and he can't

565
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: believe and shame other people.

566
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: No way, and stay out of stay out of anybody

567
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: else's life for a little while, work on yourself.

568
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: But what I think is interesting is that he loved

569
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 4: Jennifer Garner, but he's in love with j Low And

570
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: I think that that's like a difference.

571
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

572
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 4: Like I do you can I think he has I

573
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 4: think he has familial love for Jennifer Garner, that's my opinion.

574
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 4: But I think he has like he's in love. I mean,

575
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: you can see even like whatever the photos even though

576
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: they're like who knows if they were planted or not whatever,

577
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: but you can and see them together the way that

578
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: you know, like the way that they touch, you know,

579
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: they're touching each other. There is a real like he's

580
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 4: very they're both very much in love. Yeah, even though

581
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: they can't.

582
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: Be I think so.

583
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's got to be one of those

584
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: things that it's just like, you know, as much as

585
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: you guys love each other, you can't make it work.

586
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: And it's such a bummer because I don't know these people,

587
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: but I want them to be happy so bad.

588
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: You know.

589
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: It's like I'm my I'm sitting there going come on

590
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: you guys, you know, and it's like, you know, I

591
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's a bummer. I mean, but sometimes

592
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, you can have people in your life that

593
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: maybe you once had a different relationship with, but that

594
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: you guys can keep it together. I mean, I mean

595
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: for Jennifer Garner and Ben, obviously they got the kids,

596
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: so that's important. But with j Lo, I mean it

597
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: looks like Ben is really you know, ensconced in that

598
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: whole thing too.

599
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I hope they make it work.

600
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: I realized in some of the articles I was reading recently,

601
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: I saw Leah Remenie was going through divorce and they've

602
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: been really good friends for a long time, and and

603
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: she was mare for twenty one years.

604
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of time. That's a long time.

605
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Part of me is sometimes like when you hear about

606
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: someone who's been married that long, come on, guys, can't

607
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: you figure it out? But then you wonder, is it

608
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: been broken for a long time and they just kept

609
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: together for the kids.

610
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: Who knows right?

611
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: Right? Did you ever meet Rachel I've known Rachel Zo

612
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: for a long time. Do you ever meet her?

613
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: I met her back in the day a few times

614
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: and thought.

615
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: She was really nice, beautiful human.

616
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, she beautiful human, beautiful family, amazing upbringing. Really both

617
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: of them are just such lovely people. I was, I

618
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: honestly was shocked, and I sent her a text and

619
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 4: I was like because I hadn't seen her in a while,

620
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, I just want to let you

621
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 4: know that I love you. Whatever you are doing, I

622
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: just love you. And I felt, really, you know, there

623
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: are certain things. There's certain things that I read about

624
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: or hear about from people that I've known in my

625
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: past life because we used to work together when I

626
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: was when I was when I was an editor of

627
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: Hampton's magazine back in the ice age.

628
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: Wow, she was one of my stylists.

629
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: That's so cool.

630
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: She is just so beautiful. And I just felt I

631
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 4: just felt awful. I really did. I was just like,

632
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: oh my god, Like you don't you know, like you said, like,

633
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 4: and maybe this is our maybe this is our Midwestern roots, Bob,

634
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: like we just want the best for people.

635
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, I genuinely do. And I and like

636
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: I said, I mean I don't know Rachel.

637
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, obviously you do.

638
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: But the times I can only think of my encounters

639
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: with people, and that's that's the thing I have, you know,

640
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: that I carry with me. And she was always so

641
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: lovely and just seems so too, like spiritually centered and

642
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: grounded and kind. And you know, it's one of those

643
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: things where you see someone blowing up with all this

644
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: success and you're like, then when you run it, run

645
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: across them and they and they seem like the exact

646
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: same person you remember from two years previous, and you're like,

647
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: I love that.

648
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, there's there's the opposite.

649
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: They blow up with success and then they're like wildly

650
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: so it's fine.

651
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: We've seen that too. Yeah, we've seen that.

652
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: Wait, what do you think about all these families that

653
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: are having Thanksgiving together as couples but they're not together?

654
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: I kind of like it. I mean, you know, like.

655
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 4: One child is one place and the other child is

656
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 4: somewhere else, like.

657
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Se That's the thing I always think about that.

658
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: This like when a couple has has a kid or

659
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: two let's say, or whatever, and they split up, right,

660
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: and and let's say it's one child whatever reason.

661
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: In my mind, it's always one child.

662
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: So a couple has one child, then they split up,

663
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: and now this this, this person that's part of that

664
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: relationship now has children with their new.

665
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Partner or their new spouse, right, and.

666
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: Now they're having this big family picnic and where's the

667
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: where's the other kid?

668
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: You know?

669
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: And it's like, this is what happened to her?

670
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: I actually know these parties a little bit too.

671
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so let's hear the intel.

672
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so I shouldn't say I know them necessarily well, but.

673
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know them, know them.

674
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't know them, know them, but it's a terrek.

675
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: I've known him. I've known Josh who became Christina's new

676
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: husband who she's splitting off of because my ex co

677
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: host and I U from we had to show on

678
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: Serious XM for many years. That's her brother and seems

679
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: like a nice enough guy to me. Yeah, So to

680
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: see what they're going through right.

681
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: Now, and I'm just like, wow, this is bananas.

682
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to hear your take on it,

683
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: because you know, again, I mean I want to think

684
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: the best of everyone, and I hope that they're going

685
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: to make it all work. But it's like, you know,

686
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: you start seeing who's control in the narrative is at

687
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: different times, and then you're like, oh my gosh, and

688
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: then I get like I don't want to go down

689
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: the in the rabbit hole with it. So I'm just

690
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna try and stay here, you know, and

691
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: and just hold everyone at an equal place in my

692
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: mind in my heart. But you know, I don't know, Yeah,

693
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: i'd be interested to hear what your take is.

694
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: On So for a lot of these children, and like

695
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: a lot of my daughter's kids, you know, they were

696
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: always like, well, they're asking what we're doing for Thanksgiving?

697
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: Can so and so come and so? We would you know,

698
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: I would be like, if you want to bring you know,

699
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: whoever you want, wherever you want, You're welcome to do that.

700
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I didn't think of it as.

701
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 4: Strange, except for afterwards parents would say like, oh, so

702
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: and so came here and this one came there, and

703
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: it just seemed to be very, very complicated, right, And

704
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: so on the one hand, I think any time that

705
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: there's an opportunity to create a family environment for a child,

706
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: whether that's theirs or another person's, I think that's a

707
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: value add for the child. But then on the other hand,

708
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: it's like when the child is not it was away

709
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: from their family, they're creating memories with other families, and

710
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: so it's always this like disconnect between what's my life

711
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: look like versus someone else's.

712
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, you.

713
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: Know, I was always very mindful of that when people

714
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: would say like, oh, you know, you're gonna take my

715
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: daughter my you know, away for the weekend, and I

716
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: would always you know, say like, make sure you call

717
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 4: into your mom, and your mom is so great. And

718
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: even you know, men that I have dated that have

719
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 4: children saying the same thing, like, your mom is so great.

720
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure she misses you so much.

721
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: Don't forget to tell her how much you love her, like,

722
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, just so that they're not like, oh no,

723
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be Kelly's gonna be my new mom.

724
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Right well, I think that's empathetic though, That's like, that's

725
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: you showing empathy, which I think is really a kind.

726
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: Trait to have.

727
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

728
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: When you have someone like I would, I'm always mindful

729
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: of how it's going to make someone else feel to

730
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: a fault. Sometimes, like my wife even say like, you're

731
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: probably creating this in your head, and I'm like, well,

732
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about how it would make me feel.

733
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, like if if I get a Christmas card

734
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: that has a picture everyone else in the family on

735
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: it but me, my feelings will be hurt. And so

736
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: in my mind it might be like, well, you weren't

737
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: there the day we took the picture, and okay, I

738
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: guess that makes sense, you know. But and on the

739
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: other side of it, I'm like, well, then use a

740
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: different picture, you know.

741
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Or whatever. Yeah, but you know, or I don't know.

742
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Just I just put one of the kids or whatever.

743
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: So I always think about that kind of stuff, and

744
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're doing right there.

745
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Is as being just very empathetic. Right.

746
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: You don't want the mom who's not with their child

747
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: to feel like, you know, you're trying to swoop in

748
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: there and take over, because that's that's a mom fear,

749
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: it's a dad fear.

750
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: You know, I would love that.

751
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time, you're you're kind

752
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: of looking at it from the standpoint of, all, right,

753
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: if I make sure that she calls and you know,

754
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: she understands I'm not a threat here, then maybe we

755
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: can get along, right, and maybe we can have a

756
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: nice relationship too. That's kind of how I would go

757
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: about it too, I think.

758
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that children are just so malleable,

759
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: and they just they want they want to please so much,

760
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: and they'll just you know, they'll go anywhere and do anything.

761
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: But the good news about the Christmas card or the

762
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: holiday card, whatever it is, doesn't doesn't That whole scenario

763
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: is never going to happen anymore because now we can

764
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: just like pop the faces.

765
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: I know, that's right.

766
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: Oh there I am.

767
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm like super imposed in the background like a balloon head. Yeah.

768
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: But okay, So what.

769
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Christina Hack had going on here was it looked like

770
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: she took one of the kids on a trip while

771
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: the others were with with with Trek and his wife. So,

772
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard people doing that before, right, Like,

773
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: maybe I know I can't be there for the holidays,

774
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: maybe the oldest one gets to come with me on

775
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: this trip or something, or the youngest one because she

776
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: never gets to.

777
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Go or something.

778
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't obviously know the details, but that

779
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as that crazy. I think people are

780
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: so quick to kind of have an opinion about it

781
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: that they want to be like, hey, that's that's really weird.

782
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: Why would you you know, just what your favorite one

783
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: or something.

784
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I'm just you know, I'm gonna try

785
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: and take each one of them on a one on

786
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: one trip. And it worked out that this timing was

787
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: this time of year, I guess. But waiting to this

788
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: stage in the game to have children, you know. Like

789
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: I said to my wife, I'm like, man, I if

790
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: I piss you off and drive your care tough because

791
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. I Am not just going to

792
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: be the dad on the weekends. So you're stuck with me,

793
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: So get used to it. I vacuum a lot. I

794
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: don't you know. I don't cook as much as I should,

795
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: but I keep the house clean. I love doing laundry.

796
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: These are things that I you know, I see as

797
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: plus is probably drys are a little crazy.

798
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you know, I'm not gonna be a dad.

799
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: On the weekends. My boys. I have two little boys,

800
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm here. I'm going to be there

801
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: every single day. So you know, if something God forbid

802
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: were to happen to us, it's like, well tough, I'm there.

803
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: Every day to wear that.

804
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: But that's such a luxury.

805
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: That's such a luxury because's a lot of working dads,

806
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: you know, it's like working moms. I mean, you know,

807
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: I mean I know even from myself that like we're

808
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: you know, I work at a lot of different arenas,

809
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes I'm like, I don't have a

810
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: lot of time for my kids, and I you know,

811
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: I was raising them on my own.

812
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: I always felt so guilty.

813
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: I'd be like, Okay, let's just go to Soul Cycle

814
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: and then we're going to go for lunch and then

815
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: we're going to go shopping, because that'll make them happy

816
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: and then they'll they'll feel good about themselves. And we'll

817
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: you know, talk along the way, or you know, my

818
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: youngest daughter will get in trouble, so I'll walk her

819
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: home from school, you know, which was like four miles

820
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: and we'll talk through things because I had because I

821
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: could had time to do that with her that day.

822
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: And so I would try to put in my time

823
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: and effort with them in ways that I were like

824
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: really proactive.

825
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: I didn't have the you know, I didn't.

826
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: I couldn't be there all the time because I was

827
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's like my work life doesn't allow that.

828
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: Were you mindful to make that one on one time

829
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: with each of the girls or was it always collective?

830
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: Like how was that?

831
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: So that's a good question too, Like I would try

832
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: to be with you know, try to be with them

833
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: like a family unit. I would always say, like we're

834
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: a unit.

835
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: We have rules, Like I would always talk about like

836
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: the things that we do together, just to create just

837
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 4: a unit that they could take with them. And you know,

838
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: it's interesting, I mean, like the biggest compliment when you're

839
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: when your kids get old, older like mine are, and

840
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: they like reiterate what you say.

841
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sorry, what did you say?

842
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: Did I said that?

843
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Did you just say it not the right tool for

844
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: the right job. I'm like, that's that's so good, That's

845
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: what I say.

846
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: Anyway, doing that, like my six year old is already

847
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: mimicking me, and not always by the way, So yeah, okay.

848
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: What about Britney cart right?

849
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: I love First of all, I'm like, I'm like, what

850
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: is going on with and I'm obsessed with these kids.

851
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: I love that. I know, man, so it's young adults.

852
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this especially, you know, once the whole kind

853
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: of the roof went off with Scandabal, all of a sudden,

854
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I mean, everybody started paying

855
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: attention again.

856
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Not that they hadn't been.

857
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: That was a provo when he was I was a

858
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: provo con Oh you were God, yes, And he was

859
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: like walking around.

860
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: With his like food by himself, like very like in

861
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: his own moment.

862
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: I was like, I mean, I love that show. I

864
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: love Lisavanda Pomp, I love I love I love all

865
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: the characters. I love the restaurants. I love Lisa Vanda Pomp,

866
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: I love all the characters. I think everyone is like Sacy.

867
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: I love her. She's just like very she really like

868
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: gets herself And now all.

869
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Of a sudden, they're gonna do the reboot right with

870
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: with with a whole new cast apparently, and I'm like,

871
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: I wonder how that's gonna go, because man, I you know,

872
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I've known Jack's for a long time, and so I

873
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: like to now have him going through all this stuff.

874
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: You're Brittany going through all this stuff. I'm like, gosh,

875
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: do I reach out, like, what is the right thing here?

876
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: You know?

877
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: I want to basically, what's what is the tea? What's

878
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: tell me? Like, spill it?

879
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't.

880
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I again, I'm trying so desperately

881
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: to stay keeping everybody right here, you know what I mean?

882
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, you know.

883
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Brittany, basically, from what I can tell, Brittany's

884
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: admitted to hooking up with one of Jacks's friends since

885
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: they decided to divorce, And so part of me is

886
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of like, how good of friends are we talking here?

887
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Is this a friend or is this, you know, one

888
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: of his boys, which I highly doubt, but it could

889
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: be an acquaintance who you know.

890
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: Or whatever.

891
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: I mean.

892
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: I guess there's a million different things to look at here,

893
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, their reasoning for splitting up,

894
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: which I think everybody knows was kind of, you know,

895
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: some not so great decisions on Jack's part that kind

896
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: of caused some tension and some stress.

897
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: From what I was gonna say, wasn't he the one

898
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: that was like always cheating?

899
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, just allegedly Yeah, and you know, and then now

900
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like she's doing this, is

901
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: this kind of settling the score?

902
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Is this she's you know, made a decision that she's

903
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: over it? And is there a timeline? Like what's the

904
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: appropriate timeline?

905
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: Like you know, guys have a saying which is not

906
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: a very nice saying, but it's I was like, you know,

907
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: bros before whatever. I believe I can't remember what the

908
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: other word is, but it's basically like you know your

909
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: buddies before, you know, girls whatever.

910
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: But I mean it's like brows before Joanna's right, Oh,

911
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: nowhere you go, bros Before Joe, ladies named Joe.

912
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, whatever it is.

913
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: And so ultimately, I think, you know, that kind of

914
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: mindset is supposed to be what what you keep at

915
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the forefront when it's a guy splitting up, like oh

916
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: my god, you know this is my ex is uh

917
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, uh friend and she's really apparently into me.

918
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Do when's it? When? Am I okay? You know, I

919
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: don't know that there's ever an okay time for that.

920
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: I like what you said about, you know, him being

921
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 4: known as this alleged philanderer and now she was waking

922
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: up with one of his friends. Like I think it's interesting,

923
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: like is the playing field level now or is it

924
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: just like completely broken?

925
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: I mean I think I saw an interview with her.

926
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, she's such a beautiful.

927
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: Girl, and she said something along the lines of, you

928
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: know that she's put all this time and effort into

929
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: this relationship, and you know, throughout watching we watching old

930
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: vander pumpt, you know, she's always saying like I just

931
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: want you to be happy and I don't want you

932
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: to go into your old ways, and you know, she

933
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: just seems very like I wouldn't say sad, but she

934
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: seems always very like concerned that what is what's what

935
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 4: is that their relationship going to really look like in

936
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: the future.

937
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 3: And so I was I'm shocked that she she slept

938
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: with one of his friends. I mean, I am I'm shocked.

939
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised by it, just just because I

940
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: feel like it might be one of those things that

941
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's quick, you know, Like you often

942
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: hear that saying the best way to get over someone

943
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: is to get under someone.

944
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 4: New isn't really the best way. Okay, so fine, so

945
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: you have sex. Let's know, seriously, let's let's break that down.

946
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 4: So you have sex, right, Okay, you're like, oh, you're

947
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: a jerk.

948
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm mad at you.

949
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna go and have sex with this

950
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: other person. But then the sex is over, and then

951
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: you're back to but yourself again, right, feeling like maybe

952
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: for five minutes you're looking.

953
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 3: In the mirror and you're like.

954
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but that wears off, and then you're by

955
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: the way walking around and you're you know, out with

956
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: your friends, and your friends are like, how are you?

957
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: Oh I got laid last night, and they're like kind

958
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: of like huh, Like okay, you got laid, but it's

959
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 4: not like a it's not like you you got laid

960
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 4: and there was there the emotional connection is there? Right?

961
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem, seb.

962
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: That's what a lot of people get really upset about.

963
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, is sex canna be greater can suck with anybody.

964
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: So it's like it's not like just hooking up all female.

965
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 4: So having for me, for someone to have sex with

966
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: someone that's not me, that is like a no, like

967
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: I will never have sex with you again, Like if

968
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: you have sex with someone else, like I'm not going

969
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: to be a part of that, Like, which I understand.

970
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: Go go Hank, go shower in chlorox and like go

971
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: meet someone else, Like I'm not interested.

972
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: No, I get it, I get it. I do get

973
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: that because you're you're about a connection.

974
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 4: The emotional connection is what people get really freaked out about,

975
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: like the texting back and forth. Oh my god, you

976
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: guys are texting every minute, because that's like the serotonin.

977
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: Like that's why they want you back on all these

978
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 4: dating apps, is because like there's like a someone's interested

979
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 4: in you, or it's not like hey, can you, like,

980
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: you know, make this deck for me, or I know,

981
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: can you write this article. It's like you're hot, you're cool, let's.

982
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: Meet yeah, yeah.

983
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Wild yeah yeah.

984
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: And that's why people get really really freaked out about

985
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: the emotional connection. That's why some people, you know, I

986
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: mean I've had in the past about how guys be

987
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 4: like you cannot speak or text.

988
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: We had to block all those all that contact.

989
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, well, I don't really feel it

990
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: like that because I mean, I mean, if I like someone,

991
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: I like them a thousand percent, right, I'm not like

992
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: and then I don't.

993
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: Right, I'm done.

994
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like that. I see my wife like that,

995
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: not just with guys, but with friendships too. Yeah.

996
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Can it is pretty cool like that, Like she gets

997
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: if she's if she's if she's yeah, if she's tried

998
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: and not been met in the middle, she's done. And

999
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, come on, you know,

1000
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: give it one more chance, you know, or whatever, like

1001
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: talk about just friendships and things of that nature, which

1002
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: she hasn't. You know, She's not likely to throw in

1003
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: the towel too easily. But I'm the I'm probably a

1004
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: little bit more of a doormat, like I would stay

1005
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: a lot longer trying to make it work, you know.

1006
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: And she's just like, yeah, now, Fisher cut baite, I'm done.

1007
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, how do you even know that's saying?

1008
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I did with my acts. I

1009
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: was like, crickets, Yeah, well, kids drive.

1010
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: The butts a little bit too right, Like you probably

1011
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, let's be honest, I mean you

1012
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: did all the child raising that whole time. I mean

1013
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine you saw the I and I don't

1014
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: mean to comment on your personal life in that regard,

1015
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: so I obviously don't know him and don't you know,

1016
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: but I would think you probably saw the writing on

1017
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: the wall and you're like, Okay, this guy isn't this

1018
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: isn't going to go any longer.

1019
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Or something of that nature, Like you knew I'm taking

1020
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: this over. Yeah, and you know that that don't like you.

1021
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't like you.

1022
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, on that way with my.

1023
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: Serious like you can have your own opinion. You're an adult.

1024
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I am an adult, and I go

1025
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 3: with my kids first.

1026
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: I love that I am an adult, and that was

1027
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: my decision companies my kids. Yeah, my dog was like that.

1028
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: My dog passed away. But I had a yellow Lab

1029
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: for thirteen children.

1030
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 3: You're talking about it all, okay, Well.

1031
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: I didn't have kids at the time.

1032
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: She was my kid, but I would literally ge introduce

1033
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: her to people and if if she was kind of

1034
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: like a little stand out office, I'm like interesting, and

1035
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: I would literally like file that away. I'd be like, Okay,

1036
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching out for this dude. You know, it was

1037
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: kind of it was true, But I'm like that now

1038
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: with my kids too. If my kids know when people

1039
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: like them and know when they're good people, and they're

1040
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: six and three, it's like, you know, at the end

1041
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,479
Speaker 1: of the day, I think you made a good choice

1042
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: trust in your daughters, because I'm I'm gonna trust my boys.

1043
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: You know, if my boys don't like somebody, they don't

1044
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: need to be around, you know.

1045
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 4: So Jessica Simpson is trusting her sister and asking her

1046
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: for advice. So with her separation from her husband, Eric Johnson,

1047
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: they tried couples counseling, which worked for a while, but

1048
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 4: then things went back to the way they were, And

1049
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: so she's asking her sister, what do you think about that?

1050
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: Who else you gonna ask? I mean, I would definitely

1051
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: ask my sister. I mean, at the end of the day,

1052
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, my sister and I are really close, and

1053
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, if I was going through something like that,

1054
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the it's the one person you think

1055
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: you can turn to who probably isn't gonna make it conversation,

1056
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, dinner conversation with a bunch of other.

1057
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: People, you know, at the end of the day.

1058
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everyone's relationship is different with their with

1059
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: their family members.

1060
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: But for me, I would turn to my sister in

1061
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: that moment.

1062
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know, you're feeling vulnerable, You're feeling

1063
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: like your whole life is exploding around you.

1064
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: You have me for Jessica.

1065
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: She's got these beautiful kids, she's got this relationship that

1066
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: everyone you know admired.

1067
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 3: From afar m shoe empire.

1068
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: The shoe empire is bananas, right, I mean, she's just

1069
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: done so well from a business perspective, and we all

1070
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: thought she you know, we all thought when she was

1071
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: on the Newly Weds back in the day that you know,

1072
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: she was the ditzy one. Well she surprised everybody.

1073
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: Was Chicken of the seas that I had she was

1074
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: Chicken of the Sea.

1075
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm dead. I love that.

1076
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: I loved it too.

1077
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: It was smart, it was she was like number one.

1078
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: Realities like Star TV, Star Moments and my Scary I'm

1079
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 4: a period down there was number two, and I and

1080
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: I think something from Scary Island was number three.

1081
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: So Jessica Simpson and I are like, right there, I

1082
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: love that.

1083
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1084
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: Well, you're in good company and making some shoes. I

1085
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: was saying, let's go, let's go, somebody's getting that guy

1086
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: shoe world because I need some I need some cool shoes.

1087
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't have any, but but but you.

1088
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 4: Know what to to her point, one thing that I

1089
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: like is I agree with you, but sometimes I feel

1090
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 4: like when you're asking your family and your friends, I

1091
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: feel like sometimes I feel like it's too much, and

1092
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: I feel like friends just get tired and family get

1093
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: tired of saying you know the answer to this, you

1094
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 4: need you need you know you're going to figure this

1095
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: out on your own right and therapy Again, Like I

1096
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: said before at the beginning, it's changed so much. It's

1097
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: not what it used to be. It's not like how

1098
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: are you feeling? You know what I mean, it's not

1099
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: an SNL s get like that's what it used to

1100
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: be like before. I was like, what is she asking me?

1101
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: Oh my sugar?

1102
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: Like what Now they're like, here are examples of things

1103
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 4: that you've done, and here things are. Here are tools

1104
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: to to, like, you know, to kind of not fix yourself,

1105
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: but to you know, be aware of these triggers and

1106
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: try to like you know, move in a different direction

1107
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: either way.

1108
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: So it's just so different over and over again. Right,

1109
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: It's like I love that sanity. Yeah, yeah, that is

1110
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: the definition, you know. I think about like I went

1111
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: through couples counseling. My ex wife and I went through

1112
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: couples counseling, and I got a lot out of it.

1113
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where like I kept going,

1114
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, I kept going after she and I split up.

1115
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I really love and thankfully the counselor

1116
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: was willing to see me because it wasn't normal practice,

1117
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: I guess, and.

1118
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, but I'm not going to start

1119
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: fresh with some new person, you know.

1120
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Speaker 1: And I actually liked that she had a female perspective too,

1121
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: which was helpful for me. You know, some people want

1122
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: the guys want to see a guy, you know, or

1123
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: the whatever. I really enjoyed seeing her, and but also

1124
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: I think, like I said, you know, from a stand

1125
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: of of being a bit of a dormat, I probably

1126
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: would have stayed in that longer than I should have.

1127
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: And it was you know, I think having a female

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00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: figure listening to everything and being able to help me

1129
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: see the forest for the trees and be like, Okay,

1130
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: it is time to move on, you know, or whatever.

1131
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: Was probably pretty helpful, you know. And I think my.

1132
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 4: First, my first and only husband, we went to couples counseling.

1133
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: He wore purple socks and he took photos of the

1134
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: therapist the entire time, and she's like, she was German,

1135
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: She's like, this is not what this is about.

1136
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: This is not this is not a photo session.

1137
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: Well, the last one that's in the headlines for us

1138
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: to talk about today is Tish Cyrus and the Billy

1139
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: Ray Tish Ensemble, and that that whole thing.

1140
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: For the longest time, I was.

1141
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, Billy Ray's ikey breaking, He's got

1142
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: it together. Look at this wonderful family life love And

1143
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: then you find out yeah, yeah, I mean I've met

1144
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: Tish once or twice. I thought she was lovely, and

1145
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: it's like you get a chance to kind of peek

1146
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: behind the curtain and you realize everybody's got issues, right,

1147
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: everybody's got stuff going on and you know, trying to

1148
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: work through it. And you know, I think for her,

1149
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: you know again, you know, she's she's saying kind of

1150
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: a recurring theme here, at least from what I've been

1151
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: saying too, like there sometimes you stay in it longer

1152
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: than you're supposed to, and you know, I think there's

1153
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of that that people go through.

1154
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why every year around the end of

1155
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: the year, when people are thinking about how to brand

1156
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: themselves going into the new year, or how they're going

1157
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: to tackle this new year differently, or New Year's resolutions

1158
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, maybe that's why we start

1159
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: finding out about all these people splitting up at the

1160
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: end of the year. You know, it's like it's been

1161
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: coming for a while and they are just finally at

1162
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: the at their breaking point and they're finally at their

1163
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: place where they want a level set.

1164
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: Moving into the new year. And I don't know, maybe

1165
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: that's maybe that's how they're doing it. What do you think?

1166
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, first of all, they've had a

1167
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: tumultuous relationship, and you know it's like they're such an

1168
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: amazing family.

1169
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 3: I mean, she's such a momager.

1170
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: She's like raised like all these incredible children and been

1171
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: a great wife to him, and I mean there's just

1172
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: like they're just the family that just just like the

1173
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: gift that keeps on giving, do you know what I mean.

1174
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: It's like one's talented, the other talented, and the others

1175
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 4: more talented. I mean, it's just like they're just they're

1176
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: just constantly bringing just in credible talent to us. And

1177
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: so it's just so hard. I think it's hard for

1178
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: us as like an outsider, because we love them so much,

1179
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: all of the every everyone in the family, because we've

1180
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: seen them whether it's on television or you know, singing

1181
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: or wherever it's been, and we were raised with them, you.

1182
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: Know, with Miley, and.

1183
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 4: It's just really really hard to see people that you

1184
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 4: love so much not be happy, and you know, whether

1185
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: however they're navigating this brave world. You know, it's like

1186
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: from the outsider, we just it's like, you know, they're

1187
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, I love that.

1188
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: It's like stars are just like us. They pump gas,

1189
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: they get divorced, you.

1190
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: Know, they also drive vehicles, They.

1191
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: Their children, just like they rush so teeth.

1192
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 4: We put them on such a pedestal for obvious reasons

1193
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: because we love and adore them so much, and then

1194
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: when we hear that there's heartbreak, or when we hear

1195
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 4: that any kind of scandal, it's almost like disbelief, and

1196
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: it just it it cuts deep for us because we

1197
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: love them, and I think it's such a it must

1198
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 4: be such a huge responsibility for them too. It's like

1199
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: they need to go on with their lives and they

1200
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: need to find out what, you know, how they're going

1201
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 4: to like navigate their own future and what that looks

1202
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 4: like for them. Do you think that anybody on this list?

1203
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 4: So we had like Tish, we had Jessica Simpson, we

1204
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 4: had Brittany, we had Christina, And is there anybody on

1205
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: the list that you think that could get back together

1206
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: and if they could hold on, if they could get

1207
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: back together, what do you think that that would look

1208
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: like from your perspective?

1209
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: Gosh, well, I don't don't no.

1210
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, man, when I think about all these couples,

1211
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: I think the the Ben and Gen thing might be

1212
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: the one, right, because it's almost like that's the one

1213
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: that hasn't I don't know. I always feel like it's

1214
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: still kind of hanging on, lingering, and they proved to

1215
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: us this time that they weren't afraid to give it

1216
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: another try, so maybe, but there again, I mean, I

1217
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: think I think, you know, again, from the outside looking in,

1218
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Ben needs to work on Ben first

1219
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: and get Ben to a good spot, because I've seen

1220
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: some interviews with him where he just seems brooding and unhappy,

1221
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, I think, you know, for

1222
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: all the the great things that you've had that have

1223
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: come your way, it's like, you know, it might not

1224
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: be a bad idea to recognize those little bits. So

1225
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: some gratitude to those types of things and feel good

1226
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: about who you are before you try to, like you said,

1227
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: use the biggest band aid you can find, or what

1228
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: that's saying that you said, which I also really liked.

1229
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you can't you can't solve your

1230
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: problems by, you know, finding somebody else to dump them on.

1231
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 4: I hope that and Billy, I know that is remarried.

1232
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: I hope that they get back together and the whole

1233
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: family is one big, happy family and then we have

1234
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: a we have a big new show and they have

1235
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: all this music and like we're all invited to Nashville.

1236
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: The whole world. I would love that.

1237
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: I would love them.

1238
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: I just love that family. I don't know what it

1239
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: is like, I just I don't know, They're just like there.

1240
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 4: I just I love how she moms. I've seen her

1241
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: in action, and I love how she's such an entrepreneur

1242
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: but she's still loving and I love how she tried

1243
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 4: to keep the marriage together for a long time.

1244
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: And I know that she's remarried.

1245
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: But you know, and I kind of I asked you

1246
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: the question, but I'm interrupting you, which is one of

1247
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 4: my which is one of my traits.

1248
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: But I'm working on it. But I'm actually not going

1249
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: to work on it right now.

1250
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 4: That's so good, it's one of my It's on my

1251
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 4: to do list, but I'm a roasted for right now.

1252
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: I kind of feel that Jacks and Brittany are going.

1253
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 3: To get back together. Okay, I would kind of feel

1254
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: that now they're going to be like whoa.

1255
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: Especially now that they have a baby.

1256
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's that's that's one of those

1257
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: things too, Like I wanted to work because they have

1258
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: a baby, and I want them to figure out a

1259
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: way to get over it and move on and find

1260
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: each other again and you know, just be happy.

1261
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: So let's let's I like that. Let's let's end on

1262
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: that note.

1263
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: We're we're seeing three potential reconciliations here in the new year,

1264
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: perhaps and you know, I think that would be pretty great.

1265
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: Kelly.

1266
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: First of all, I have loved getting to talk to

1267
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: you even better, even better than I expected and I had.

1268
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: I had high hopes and high expectations just from having

1269
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: watched you on the show, how I thought it would

1270
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: be to meet you in person.

1271
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: But what a joy.

1272
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: And you are such a lovely person, and so I

1273
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: feel even more compelled to root for you every time

1274
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: I see you than I have been in the past,

1275
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: which I always rooted for you anyway, So this is

1276
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: this makes me very happy.

1277
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: So thank you for.

1278
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: Today, my God love, it's your beautiful family. And to

1279
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 3: your mom.

1280
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: Yes she's over here playing slots on her iPad. She's

1281
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: doing great well. Thank you so much.

1282
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: You know a lot of what we're taking away from

1283
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: today celebs go through the relationship ups and Donal's just

1284
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: like us, right. It's hard to navigate a breakup or

1285
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: a divorce at any time of a year, but the

1286
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: holidays can definitely make it extra tough. So thanks to

1287
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: Kelly for joining me. She always brings such great insight

1288
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: to the show.

1289
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: And if you're a.

1290
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: Divorce they're ready to date again, or you want some advice,

1291
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,960
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1292
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,600
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Speaker 1: an iHeart podcast where falling in love is the main objective.

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Speaker 2: Exer