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Speaker 1: Quarterback is a new sports series that features an unprecedented

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Speaker 1: look in the lives of three quarterbacks, including your Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, and Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 1: Watch Quarterback July twelfth, only on Netflix. And so now

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Speaker 1: we've got this shuffle in the backfield and they haven't

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Speaker 2: How do you see that playing out?

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Speaker 3: I'm in love with ty Chandler. There's how I did

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Speaker 3: playing out. I'm so excited for ty Chandler. Suddenly we're

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Speaker 3: like more defense safety. It feels like a luxury spot

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast. I'm Tatum Everett

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Speaker 1: Jay Nelson here in studio with me alongside producer Eric Davidson.

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Speaker 1: We are back from fourth of July break, and we

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Speaker 1: have a very special guest joining us as well. He's

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Speaker 1: the creator of guillotine Leagues dot com. Paul Charchion, a

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Speaker 1: big friend of the Vikings, and of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Paul, how's it going.

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Speaker 3: I am a big friend. I'm very excited to be here.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: It's fun to talk vikings in advance of training camp

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Speaker 3: when really everything just sort of goes crazy. Right. You

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Speaker 3: Guillotine Leagues would be perfect for you.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: We can make you front and center. Yep, you can

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Speaker 1: I do think that ty Chandler is someone that Kevin

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Speaker 1: O'Connell has been very upfront that this is a guy

439
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Speaker 1: that he really wants to see work in this offense,

440
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Speaker 1: and I think has a lot to do with his

441
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Speaker 1: past catching abilities in college he caught seventy three passes

442
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Speaker 1: for six hundred and eighty one yards. He has the

443
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Speaker 1: ability to be there if he can stay healthy. He's

444
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 1: a good kid. His head screwed on Ryan. I think

445
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: we had him on the podcast last year. He's just

446
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Speaker 1: a solid person as well, which I know as a

447
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Speaker 1: factor for this coaching staff to have those kind of

448
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Speaker 1: guys in the locker room as well. I think you're

449
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Speaker 1: going to see a lot of him during training camp.

450
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Speaker 1: But I will say when we were out at OTAs

451
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Speaker 1: and Mini Camp, Madison was getting a lot of a

452
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Speaker 1: lot of passwork, and so I think that that's a

453
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Speaker 1: skill they're definitely trying to improve for him and focus

454
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Speaker 1: on as he takes this next step in his career

455
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Speaker 1: as well.

456
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And speaking of great people, Alexander Madison and all

457
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Speaker 3: my interactions with him, just get a super smart guy.

458
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Speaker 3: It just you know, there's nothing not to like from

459
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Speaker 3: a personality standpoint about Alexander Madison.

460
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Speaker 5: We're talking about good people.

461
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Speaker 3: And and you know, for sure Madison will continue to

462
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Speaker 3: have a roll here and maybe he does develop into

463
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Speaker 3: more of a pass catch and what we've seen so far,

464
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Speaker 3: you know, Dalvin Kilcook was an accomplished you know, it

465
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Speaker 3: doesn't la Danian Tomlinson, but you know he does what.

466
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Speaker 5: You threw him.

467
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Speaker 3: And and so if they want Madison to take some

468
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Speaker 3: of those reps.

469
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Speaker 5: I think there.

470
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Speaker 3: I think they're trying to find out if he can catch.

471
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Speaker 3: So don't be surprised if he continued to see a

472
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Speaker 3: lot of password for Alexander Madison as they try to

473
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Speaker 3: evaluate if he can pick up those Dalvin Cook receptions.

474
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Speaker 4: It's kind of weird because you know, you think about

475
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 4: the ty Chandler side of it, and everyone's assuming that

476
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Speaker 4: he's gonna be more of the kind of dynamic pass

477
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: catching guy, and you're kind of kind of the lightning

478
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 4: of the thunder and lightning style of you know, if

479
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 4: Madison's more of the thunder. But it's one of the

480
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Speaker 4: things with Madison was when he was coming out of

481
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Speaker 4: Boise State. I was a huge fan of his, having

482
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Speaker 4: watched a bunch of their games in college, and I'm like,

483
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 4: when he got to the NFL and the very first

484
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Speaker 4: time he hurdled the guy, I'm like, that's the guy

485
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 4: and that you know, just showing off like that is

486
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: a big body boy, but man, he can still move,

487
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 4: and the fact he's that athletic, you know, it just

488
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: feels like he's finally getting to the point where I

489
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 4: think in his mind he's looking at it saying, I've

490
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Speaker 4: been a number one back this whole time. I just

491
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: need the opportunity. And now that he's getting the opportunity,

492
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Speaker 4: I just look at Madison feeling like he's going to

493
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Speaker 4: take every opportunity. He's going to get here and really

494
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Speaker 4: try and jump into those those lead shoes and really

495
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Speaker 4: make it work. Because you know, there were games, yeah,

496
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Speaker 4: evenlast year where you know, he had to come in

497
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: and handle full time duties with Cook being hurt, and

498
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: there was a difference in production, but it wasn't this

499
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Speaker 4: massive cliff. And I think a guy like Madison being

500
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Speaker 4: able now to be able to focus and be the

501
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 4: lead guy, I think he's going to shine this year

502
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 4: and just given his opportunity and be able to show

503
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 4: everybody what he's known all along and that you know,

504
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 4: he belongs in this league and can be a lead back.

505
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Speaker 3: Well, just one last thing in this running back situation, Jay,

506
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: You're probably right about everything he said. I think there's

507
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 3: going to be scenarios. Something will happen middle of the season.

508
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: Madison will get most of the work, and it might

509
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 3: be a beau a seventy thirty or sixty forty split

510
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Speaker 3: with Madison getting sixty and then others getting the rest

511
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Speaker 3: of the work. I like ty Chandler's going to make

512
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 3: some big plays because we've seen him do that. And

513
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: when he makes these big plays, I think he's going

514
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: to set himself up for a spot to you know

515
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: that next game after he you know, reels off a

516
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: forty eight yard catch run touchdown, it's going to put

517
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Speaker 3: himself in a spot where he's going to start demanding

518
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: more time. And I think there's going to be some

519
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: scenario unfolds over the course of the season where ty

520
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: Chandler just presses himself with big plays into a bigger role.

521
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Speaker 1: Well, I definitely think that that's a possibility and So

522
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Speaker 1: here's my next question. Do you draft any of the

523
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Speaker 1: Vikings running backs on any of your Fantasy football league teams,

524
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Speaker 1: guillotine or not.

525
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Speaker 3: I just drafted ty Chandler yesterday in one of my leagues.

526
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Speaker 3: You can hear this coming, right, So, Alexander Madison is

527
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: he's expensive to draft. He's going to cost you roughly

528
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Speaker 3: a fifth round pick, fourth round pick, sixth round picks

529
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Speaker 3: somewhere right in there. I can get Ty Chandler with

530
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Speaker 3: the last pick of my draft. And you know, based

531
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Speaker 3: on what I was just telling you, I think ty

532
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Speaker 3: Tandler it's going to force his way out of the field.

533
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Speaker 3: So for where I have to for what I have

534
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Speaker 3: to pay to get those guys, I want Ty Chandler.

535
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Speaker 4: So you're looking at him as kind of a Tony

536
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 4: Pollard style guy that you know was kind of the

537
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 4: scene as the backup, but just took more of a

538
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Speaker 4: role because of how dynamic he was being.

539
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Speaker 3: Kay that is a perfect I'm stealing. That is a

540
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: perfect analogy where Tony Pollard simply forced his way on

541
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Speaker 3: the field. And that's and through a similar skill set.

542
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: You know, Pollard was breaking off all these long runs,

543
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: he was catching the ball really really well he was.

544
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: You know, he forced himself through great play and big

545
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: plays onto the field. That's a perfect analogy, and a

546
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Speaker 3: royalty check will be him.

547
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Speaker 4: Oh I am, I am all for that, Thank you

548
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 4: very much. I will I will let you take the credit.

549
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 4: I will silently take the money in the background. That

550
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 4: works for me. The thing about Tony Pollard though, too,

551
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: was that he was a huge kick returner la punt

552
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: returner in college and that was one of the skill

553
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: sets that really got him on the field. And you

554
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: could just see, you know, a guy that we have

555
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Speaker 4: here that is dynamic and returns as wang Wu. How

556
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Speaker 4: do you see him kind of fitting into this whole

557
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: mix at this point? Because there is no doubt that

558
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 4: that speed that he has on in open field is

559
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: absolutely deadly when he gets a chance. And I just

560
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 4: feel like with the rules that are changing with kicking

561
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: and everything, like teams are going to try to eliminate

562
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Speaker 4: that given the fact that he's had really for return.

563
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Speaker 4: So it's like he's somebody that I I am very

564
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Speaker 4: curious to see how he works into this whole mix

565
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 4: because of how dynamic he can be.

566
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Speaker 3: I think he's a bubble guy and I think that.

567
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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Canay one was a

568
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: lock for the fifty three. I think he's one of

569
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: the guys that's gonna be sweat and all training camp.

570
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: And you raise a great point just special teams being

571
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: downplayed by the league, and it's it's unfortunate, but that's

572
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: just that's just the reality of where the league is

573
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 3: right now and their their efforts to make the game safer,

574
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: and that's you know, it's it's just not like it

575
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: used to be where you you really wanted to and

576
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Speaker 3: the lead kick return it could be a game changer

577
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: for you. Cordell Patters, some of the vikings was he

578
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: when uh when you kick return still mattered. It's just

579
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: not that way anymore. And Canay has not managed to

580
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Speaker 3: distinguish himself as a backfield runner. So I think Canay

581
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: is in a tricky spot here. Uh this is gonna

582
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: be one to watch throughout training camp. And I don't know, I,

583
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: like I said, bubble guy, I don't know if I

584
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: don't know if he's a lock for fifty degree Interesting?

585
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: Interesting, I like it a hot take right out of

586
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Speaker 2: the gate.

587
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess halfway through, Uh, you know, we've talked

588
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: so much about the offense, I do think we should

589
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: dive into a little bit of the defensive side of things,

590
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: and I know for for many people it's going to

591
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: be a very different look. You have a new defensive

592
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: coordinator for the second time in two years. We have

593
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Speaker 1: Brian Flores, who I think everyone is very excited about.

594
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: The players are talked about him being a player's coach,

595
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: how he has very intense.

596
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: But they really like working with him.

597
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: And the defense seems fun and a little bit more

598
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: attack style, a little bit more aggressive, And so I

599
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: think that's gonna start with him. But then you also

600
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: look to the outside and his cornerbacks are going to

601
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: be playing a lot of man. They're also gonna be

602
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive. And we know that you know the vikings

603
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: picked up Byron Murphy and he's a presumed starter in

604
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: this in this defense, I guess you could say for

605
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: sure sure heading into this. And so you know there

606
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: are a lot of young names. How do you see

607
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: that trio of cornerbacks playing out? Because I guess in

608
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: camp a lot of the times they've had those three

609
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: guys in the mix. At all times they've had three

610
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: on the field.

611
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's going to be weird that we've really

612
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: just turned over the whole position. I mean, you know,

613
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: for returning snaps from last year at the position, I

614
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: don't know, we've know we might have a couple of

615
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: hundred total returning snaps between everybody that's currently on roster coming,

616
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's so Caleb Evans will move

617
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: into a starting role presumably or a battle for a

618
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: starting role. Andrew Booth, the second round pick from last year,

619
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Speaker 3: likely somebody's going to battle for a starting spot. And

620
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: then this team drafted some some corners this year as well,

621
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Speaker 3: and we might see some some action from McKay beck Blackman,

622
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: and Jay Ward as possibilities. But Byron Murphy's here set

623
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: he's your he's your he's your nickelback, right, he's your

624
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: slots black cornerback. So he brings veteran leadership and understanding

625
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: to the position that is otherwise very very green and

626
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: from for US Viking fans. And we've seen this team

627
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: put a lot of draft deck into the quarterback position.

628
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: It's a little frustrating that where you've got to keep

629
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: rebooting this spot. But hopefully we finally got the right

630
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: guys to give us some long term stability at cornerback

631
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Speaker 3: with all these new faces.

632
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: And I think they're thinking the same thing too, you know,

633
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: I think they look at this as their opportunity. Yeah,

634
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: you know, you you bring in a Byron Murphy on

635
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 4: this roster with the assumption that he's going to be

636
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 4: the starter, but he's the new guy too, so like

637
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: people are going to look at this, at least within

638
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: that position and say, this is my shot. And again

639
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: kind of like we're talking before contracts, whether it's here

640
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: or even the next contract, they're going to be playing

641
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: as much playing time as they can to really show

642
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: out that, you know, they belong here within this league.

643
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: And so I am curious with some of those younger guys,

644
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: especially in second and third seasons coming up here. You know,

645
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: is there anyone really there that you feel like is

646
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: has the potential to leap out and be that that

647
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: alpha within that that younger group there that can really

648
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: solidify their spot on this roster this year.

649
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: Well, Byron Murphy's really good and that was a it

650
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: was a real loss for the Cardinals to to let

651
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: him go. You know, you get a player who has

652
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: at various parts of his career really shined. And you

653
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: know it's slot cornerback used to be something you could

654
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: sort of forget about and you didn't have to spend

655
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: that much time worried about. But now teams have got

656
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: three receivers or two receivers and a tight end standing

657
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: in the slot all the time. Your slot cornerbacks on

658
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 3: the field seventy percent of your plays. And so you know,

659
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: to me, if we can get great play at a

660
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Byron Murphy, that will help so much for the whole

661
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: cornerback group as in its entirety when you've got these

662
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: young kids that are trying to learn on the outside,

663
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: if you got one guy, then you just you can

664
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: just go, We're going to play straight man out of

665
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: the slot Byron Murphy against whoever. You know, I'm on

666
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: Ross Brown and not have to worry about that. That's say,

667
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 3: that would be a huge relief. So for me, if

668
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: there's if there's one guy that I need to be

669
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: as great as we've as Byron Murphy has shown he

670
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: can be at times, that's to me, that's the spot

671
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: that we we we need to be able to rely on.

672
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 4: What of that next tier of guys, is there one

673
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: to you that you think has the potential to be

674
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: that guy that could jump up there, that could be

675
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: the you know, third guy within that group, whether it's uh,

676
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: you know, Booth, Evans, Blackman, or Juwan Williams are those

677
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: kind of guys.

678
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Booth looked really promising in college and obviously,

679
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: you know, as we all know, injuries have just derailed

680
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: both his college career and now his pro career to

681
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: this point. But in terms of a just terms of

682
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: a college prospect, Booth looked like the guy who looked

683
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: like he could be NFL capable, and so I want

684
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: to see what he can do off a what will

685
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: presumably be a fully healthy training camp and rolling into

686
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: the season as I think likely a starter here. But

687
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: at Caleb Evans, you know, they he got playing time

688
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: last year, and I thought he looked promising, and so

689
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: you know, that's the guy that I think, if you

690
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: look at somebody and just say facebo we've already seen

691
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: on film and at the pro level, Caleb Evans looks

692
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: like he's pro ready, and I think that was part

693
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: of the reason why they were able to make all

694
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: the changes they made. A cornerback. Is this this front

695
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: office felt like coaching stuff. Felt like a Caleb Evans

696
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: was going to be somebody that they're comfortable starting pretty

697
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: much every play.

698
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Canti Green Moore, I was going to bring up

699
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: that point. Plus, I do think that the signing of

700
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: Juwan Williams is going to be one that might go

701
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: a little bit unnoticed for a while because you're adding

702
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: all these young guys, these new and exciting toys, and

703
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I know that he didn't really I don't think.

704
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: He lived up to his potential with the Patriots.

705
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: He's a second round draft pick in twenty nineteen, and

706
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I do think you know, he got a second contract.

707
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I think this is his time to develop in this

708
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: system and be a leader in that room because it's

709
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: a very very young room, and I know he's he's

710
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: another one of those guys who's just a high quality

711
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: character guy as well. So I think that that veteran

712
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: presence will be very helpful and I really hope that

713
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: he can take that step as well with these new

714
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: guys in that room.

715
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: All Right, Tatum going deep Joe Watt Williams, all Right,

716
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. Yeah, that is the

717
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: answer off the beaten path right there.

718
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: Well, you know when you cover one team, it's really helpful. U.

719
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: No, the whole roster, No, I say that, and like

720
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: there's ninety players to know, and there's still very I

721
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: still have a hard time remembering that many Like when

722
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: I love on the I love when there's fifty three.

723
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: It's just very easy for my brain.

724
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: But speaking of.

725
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: A lot of guys in a room, you've got a

726
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: deep position, in the deepest position on the defense, you

727
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: say maybe at safety and uh in charge? Why why

728
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: is that? I mean, I think we kind of all

729
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe understand because it is one of those uh

730
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: where there's not a ton of new faces. There are

731
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: guys that we we know a ton about.

732
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, part of it is we've changed so much

733
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: of the rest of the defense. But you've got Harrison

734
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: Smith providing obviously Hall of Fame level veteran leadership at

735
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: the safety position. Cam Binden was solid last year, but

736
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: you know, Josh Mantelis splashes all the time and looks

737
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: really really promising. And now you've got first round pick

738
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: Lewis sceneback, so you know it's suddenly we're like for

739
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: deepest safety. It feels like a luxury spot right now,

740
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: and you know, compared to all the positions of our defense,

741
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: with all the new faces and all the question marks

742
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: and all the things, we're not sure enough. We don't

743
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: even know where they stand on the Is this a

744
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: four to three defense?

745
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: Is the three four?

746
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Is at the hybrid? There's so many questions on this defense.

747
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: The one thing you can look at and safely say

748
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: is his team's got some talented safety and that's the

749
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: one spot of the defense you can feel pretty good

750
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: about rolling into twenty twenty three with.

751
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the safety position. I think that you

752
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: look at that as with Harrison Smith being here for

753
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: twelve seasons as the field general at the back end.

754
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Zimmer looked at him that way too, just

755
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: knowing that he could rely on that guy and kind

756
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: of turn him loose. And I think there's a bunch

757
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: of us that are very interested in the idea of

758
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: what would Flores do with a guy like that that

759
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 4: is that smart and still athletically gifted the way he is.

760
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: I think the rest of those guys have been learning underneath,

761
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: you know, probably one of the best people that they

762
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: could at that position for the future. For whenever you

763
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: know Harrison is no longer on the roster. But I

764
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: look at it as if you can get to a

765
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: point where they feel like just turn Harrison loose, let

766
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: him go. It also takes off some of the pressure

767
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: from that cornerback position too, because you could slide some

768
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: of those guys in, whether it's Nickel or other places

769
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: if need be. But just to have the luxury of

770
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: depth there in a position group and the secondary that

771
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: we were just talking about it with the corner saying,

772
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: we've been throwing a lot of draft equity at these

773
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: guys trying to get something to be solidified. We've been

774
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: very lucky over the years to have somebody as as

775
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: sure fire as Harrison Smith on that defense.

776
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what a luxury it's been to watch his

777
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: whole career and the thing that's so special Harrison Smith

778
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: to me, I mean, there's lots of things, but what

779
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: I'm always going to remember is I'll and Zimmer did

780
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: this brilliantly. The pre snap things that Harriet and Smith

781
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: would do to opposing quarterbacks was basically just cruel. You know,

782
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: you know, he'd lining up all over the field, he'd

783
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: you know, move him into the slot. He'd looked like

784
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 3: an edge rusher. He'd and he's backing up. He would

785
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: torture and still does torture opposing quarterbacks with his pre

786
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: snap looks and where you put Harrison Smith. Can't wait

787
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: to see what Brian Flores does with that.

788
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, really excited about that. For sure. We'll wrap up soon.

789
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: But I but my main thing, and the reason that

790
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I love talking to you so much is because I

791
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: like to get my fantasy tidbit so I can get

792
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: ready for the season. And I was driving home the

793
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: other day and I was listening to the radio, which

794
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I really don't do very often because I'm a very

795
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: big podcast listener, and I caught the tail end of

796
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I Think a Feast potentially where Nordo and you were hosting.

797
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were talking.

798
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: To it takes basically the entire summer of Fridays off,

799
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: which he gets to do that when you when you've

800
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: acued a crwed twenty years of a vacation time.

801
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I guess with some status you get to

802
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: do that. Huh. Well, I appreciate listening to you guys.

803
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: But then I but then I heard Nordo call my

804
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Guillotine League team trash.

805
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: Even though I beat him, and I was just like, Okay,

806
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I really listened to like I really listened at the

807
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: wrong point.

808
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 4: It's called envy.

809
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, so I.

810
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: Know that was that was professional end right there? Beat

811
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: his team you had. You've been a final four team.

812
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: I think that three. You're in the Guillotine League Final

813
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: three both a few years.

814
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, she's making me feel less than with this

815
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: Guillotine League here.

816
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know Beginner's luck. I got no idea.

817
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: I really don't.

818
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing, honestly, And I tell

819
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: churches all the time. I listen to the Gullotine League podcast.

820
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: I listen to Fantasy Football Weekly all on the app,

821
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: you know the podcast app. And I mean, you might

822
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: say that I'm good at this, but maybe I'm just

823
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: listening to charts the whole time about me.

824
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: I hadn't thought of it that way, but I.

825
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: Do. I Look, I commit to the bit is what

826
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: I keep saying about things that I do that are

827
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: like a little obnoxious, but like, if I'm gonna do it,

828
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it like one thousand percent.

829
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: And so I tend to over obsess about it. And

830
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: I think that's part of it.

831
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, listen, like, there's no better source

832
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: than the guy who's actually developed the entire thing. You

833
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: might as well listen to, you know what, got to say,

834
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: because I think he's got a couple insights here on this.

835
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: So now that you've kind of had a bunch of

836
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: drafts going on, I know that you can go to

837
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: guillotine leagues and start your drafts now, and you've got

838
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: open chop drafts and things like that going on our

839
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: leagues open for business. Are you seeing an overall consensus

840
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: of JJ going first.

841
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yes we are, And particularly in the guillotine format

842
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: where you're playing not to lose, You're not playing to win,

843
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: you're playing not to lose. Justin Jefferson is just the

844
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: safest pick in fantasy football, along with Travis Kelsey. So yeah,

845
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: JJ's going on average, his average draft position is pick

846
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: number one in the Guillotine leagues and nationally, by the way,

847
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: not even non Guillotine league his average draft position is

848
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 3: number one.

849
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: So he's essentially at Megatron slash Julio Jones in the

850
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: past status at this point.

851
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, Yeah, that's that's what Justin

852
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: Jefferson has done, and I you know, the case for

853
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: just and Jefferson looks like this. You know, Kirk is set,

854
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: this offensive line is getting better, This offense is going

855
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: to largely go through his hands. And with Dalvin Cook gone,

856
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: maybe even more so. And and Justin Jefferson, you know,

857
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: he did have a couple of games in which the

858
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: team's scheme to basically just take him away. The presumption

859
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: is that with Jordan Addison coming in, that that's going

860
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: to be harder to do this year. And so yeah,

861
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: I just people just you know, they recognize that he

862
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: is an absurdly unique talent. And Justin Jefferson, your first

863
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: overall pick in fantasy drafts.

864
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: Last year was it Jonathan Taylor.

865
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: It was Jonathan Taylor. So funny that, yeah.

866
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess Christian McCaffrey was pretty high last

867
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: season two.

868
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, you know, McCaffrey had come off

869
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: the two straight injury marred season, so there were a

870
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: lot of people gun shying McCaffrey last year, and then

871
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: he ended up having a really good season, And.

872
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: So I think that day close to home that is correct.

873
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: Man, he got a lot of teams shopped in twenty

874
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: twenty and twenty twenty one.

875
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 5: Holy how Christian McCaffrey was killer.

876
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: He was. I had maneuvered my way years ago into

877
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 4: my Dynasty League where my first two draft picks in

878
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: the rookie draft were McCaffrey and Dalvin Cook, and I

879
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 4: ended up having at one point to make a choice

880
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: after a couple of years of domination, of which one

881
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: I was going to keep. I let Dalvin go and

882
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: kept Christian McCaffrey, and then Christian decided to get injured

883
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: and injured and injured. And then as soon as I

884
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: don't pick Christian McCaffrey, he gets traded the Niners and

885
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: goes ape against of course, you know, it's just one

886
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: of those things.

887
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: And Dalvin Cook suddenly gets healthy, right, So, after Dalvin

888
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: Cook had.

889
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 5: Had all those injury issues early on, and that.

890
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: The bail on Dalvin and I understand why. And then

891
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Dalvin's basically an iron man after that.

892
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: And I think tap dancing on my fantasy. Grave was

893
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: seeing Christian McCaffrey this summer playing keys at Red Rocks

894
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: for with a country band on stage. He was actually

895
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: playing the keyboard and all stuff, and I'm just like, man,

896
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: this guy is definitely home and enjoying his best life

897
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 4: in the off season.

898
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just got engaged.

899
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: H yes, yes he did to a super She's a

900
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: former Miss USA, former Miss Universe. Now she's like a

901
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: Instagram like, she's a model. She does a lot of modeling.

902
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: She's a very very she has a reality show I

903
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: think too, Olivia Culpo. But she's also very which I

904
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: don't think. Moving on, she can like play the cello.

905
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: She's very musically gifted, and so is Christian, So I

906
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: think they have a little bit more in common than

907
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: just being pretty.

908
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: Okay, all right. He was on stage at Red Rocks

909
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: playing the playing keyboards and maybe he's a talented keyboardist

910
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: and I don't.

911
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't, who knows, I didn't know.

912
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: That sounds like she might be the better musician of

913
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: the girls.

914
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: She definitely she won Miss America too, so I think

915
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: that she was Miss America then Miss USA or something

916
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: like that.

917
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: So she can play by like she used to play talent.

918
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: At least they have a they have a fallback planning,

919
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, in case these careers don't work out currently

920
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: for the two of them, oh yeah, you know that

921
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: they might be hurting for some cash here in the future,

922
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 4: so at least they can rely in their musical talents.

923
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Yes, well this has just gone off the rail lovely.

924
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: So if JJ is going first, and then I would

925
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: say maybe Kelsey is a consensus number two is the

926
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: third pick in the draft, the toughest place to be because.

927
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: You know, you usually say second, You usually say number two.

928
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: From what I.

929
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: Remember, Yeah, right, the consensus right now is justin Jefferson

930
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: into Christian McCaffrey. And those are kind of your lock

931
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: one and two in the fantasy drafts, if that's what

932
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: you're asking, and then you know, after that you can

933
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: start putting your own little spin on it a little bit,

934
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: depending on you know who you want to take. Travis

935
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: Kelcey's in play here. Who's ever been sad they drafted

936
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey?

937
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: I've been said at it and bid on him enough money?

938
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, yeah that too, Jamar Chase, right in this conversation,

939
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: maybe you think Cooper Cubs canna bounce back. Maybe you

940
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: love Tyreek Hill just because he's a human highlight machine.

941
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: Maybe we want Austin Eckler because you want all those

942
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: receptions at running backs. So those are your lot, those

943
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: are your top seven, right there. I ain't just a

944
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: breaking point after seven. So if there's I think, I

945
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: think you want to be in the top seven to

946
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: get one of those guys, because after that, now you

947
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: got another tier of players like I don't know A. J.

948
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: Brown and Bijon Robinson and Ceedee Lamb and Garrett Wilson,

949
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: maybe Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor. Those guys to me, dishonest, compelling.

950
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going to stress me out once more,

951
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: isn't it.

952
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: That's the whole idea, the whole idea. Well, thank you,

953
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: embrace it.

954
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: Right, I love it. I love it. Thank you so much,

955
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: charge for doing this.

956
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: We're spending so much time with us today and talking

957
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: to us about our favorite team as well as the

958
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: fantasy world, because you know sometimes they go hand in hand.

959
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Sounds great and looking forward to a fun football season, Tatum,

960
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: I'll see you, yeah, every other week at Buffalo Wild Wing.

961
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, yep. Again.

962
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: You can follow Paul Charcie and at Paul Charchie and

963
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 1: on Twitter, sign up for a Guiotee league. They're super fun.

964
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Changes the way you play fantasy. I like it better

965
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: than the normal fantasy world. So great, it's great. So

966
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: hopefully you know what I've I'm going. I'm going for

967
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: it all this year, going for it all.

968
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I'll get chopped. Yeah I got no. I knew I

969
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna win last year.

970
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: My my goal is just to subject.

971
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: My goal is just to get the Tatum status. At

972
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: this point, I'm tired of getting sniped in my first

973
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: first month of the season and then being like, all right,

974
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: I guess I'm washing my hands with that one Tatum

975
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: good luck this year. I need to get the Tatum status.

976
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: There you go.

977
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: I I really really feel like if I get chopped early,

978
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to like join something else, because like,

979
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: what will I focus on?

980
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: I only do one league. I only do one league.

981
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm taking co ownership if if you're interested here

982
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: if you do get bounced early, and I could.

983
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: Definitely something co manage.

984
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: I like co managing, although you have to you have

985
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: to also add Josh in there because he's also my

986
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: co manager.

987
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: Listen, at this point, for me, more than Marrier, I

988
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: will take what I know.

989
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say that and just take all the glory,

990
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: but I have to get Josh some credit.

991
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: He does help me so he's good at it too.

992
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: He's pretty good too.

993
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: He's pretty good at fantasy himself. So he has a

994
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: bunch of championships.

995
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: So that's what he tells you.

996
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Or do you know, Oh, I know that for a fact.

997
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: We're a powerhouse couple and I'm just kidding no anyway, anyway,

998
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Thank you so much charge for being here.

999
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

1000
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: Lots of fun.

1001
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, by bye.

1002
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Paul Charchiing for joining the podcast today.

1003
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: Always a good time and a wealth of knowledge. Just

1004
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: a couple of things before we get going. The training

1005
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: camp dates are listed online. That starts July twenty eighth.

1006
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Crazy to think we are a little over two weeks. Yeah,

1007
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: two weeks away, Jay, that's kind of that's crazy. Players

1008
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: do report on July twenty third, the veterans on July

1009
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. Then we'll see you fans out at those practices.

1010
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: There are two joint practices to night practices, so a

1011
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities for you to come out and see

1012
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: your favorite team. And then a little bit later this

1013
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: week we have a Pick six dropping with the Vikings

1014
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Beat Writers, which we have never done before. So the

1015
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: guys that you see penning your favorite articles are now

1016
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: going to be in front of the camera answering your

1017
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: fan questions. We're really excited about that. And also, Jay,

1018
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: something big is going on this week.

1019
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about.

1020
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I have it in my Netflix key ready

1021
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: to go.

1022
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that The Quarterback is officially being released

1023
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: on Netflix. You've got mahomes our guy, Kirk Cousins, and

1024
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 4: Mariota as the kind of the three feature guys here.

1025
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 4: There's a ton of behind the scenes footage. I know

1026
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 4: that there's an event at TCO on the eleventh at

1027
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: the same point when it fully is released here on

1028
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: the twelfth. There's a lot of anticipation. You're starting to

1029
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: see four or five minute chunks of being thrown out

1030
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: as a red meat just to get people interested. But

1031
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: I am curious, you know, as much as people love

1032
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: hard Knocks, being able to focus on, you know, these

1033
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: three guys within this this series I think is going

1034
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: to be really interesting just to see how everyone reacts

1035
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: to it. And if you just think about the personalities

1036
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: of those three guys, are three completely you know, different

1037
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: people and how kind of they play, have their perception,

1038
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: the leadership, all that kind of stuff. I'm really really

1039
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 4: excited to think about, you know, when the public gets

1040
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: ahold of this, what their thoughts and perceptions are in

1041
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: this whole thing. So I'm really excited to see it

1042
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 4: officially hit for everybody else and for everyone that gets

1043
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: the sneak peek at tco PC. I think it's going

1044
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 4: to be a lot of fun to you know, have

1045
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: a beautiful night and be able to enjoy that with

1046
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: everybody else watching.

1047
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to go out there tonight and do that. Obviously,

1048
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: we're recording on Tuesday, so we're pumped about that. I

1049
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: haven't really seen the episode yet, excited to see it tonight.

1050
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: What's your biggest kind of talker thought going into this

1051
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: whole thing, Like, what are you interested in seeing?

1052
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I know this is this, I know this is

1053
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: a Viking's podcast, right, I'm very well aware of that.

1054
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: But I am very interested in hearing about Marcus Mariota.

1055
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: And that's only because I covered him for a season

1056
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: I think in maybe one season in Tennessee, and I

1057
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: felt like he was just a very elusive human being,

1058
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Like there's not much out there there about him. He

1059
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: does not share his personal life. He really doesn't do

1060
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: social media. Like he's just a very elusive guy. He

1061
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: just is mystery to him. I know his wife talks.

1062
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: I know he's talking. Like I'm excited to kind of

1063
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: see what his life is like now, because you go

1064
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: from being a second overall draft pick and then a

1065
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: starter and you take your team to the first ever

1066
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: playoff game in like fourteen years or something crazy, and

1067
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: then you just kind of like fell off, right, like

1068
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: you fell off and you Atlanta, you get benched, and

1069
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: this is the season that they're going to highlight. So like,

1070
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: for some like sick reason, I'm like really interested in

1071
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: seeing who he is when someone is filming him all

1072
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: the time, Like who he is behind the press conferences

1073
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: and what we only see in the locker room.

1074
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: See, that's the side of all three of these guys

1075
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: that I want to see, is I we see so

1076
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 4: much of the public stuff, you know, with the press

1077
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: conferences and everything, and you had a guy who won

1078
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 4: the whole thing, you know.

1079
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be really interesting, which is.

1080
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: Going to be interesting to see just and I'm sure

1081
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: there's going to be a lot of really crazy footage

1082
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: that he's willing to use. But I am more curious

1083
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: than with the Mariota side and the cousin's side as

1084
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: far as and even with mahomes the day to day,

1085
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 4: like what is your day to day because we get

1086
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: small glimpses of it. We you know, would work with

1087
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: Kirk when he was at home and stuff, But you know,

1088
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: he's trying to balance not only the pressures of being

1089
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: a quarterback, being a public figure, personal life, family life,

1090
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: everything else that goes on with that too. And that

1091
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: is the side I think that even with hard knocks,

1092
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 4: you know, they do like these little vignettes with people

1093
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: for four or five minutes and say, oh, you know,

1094
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: he's a painter, We're going to take him to some

1095
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: art studio and let him paint and then talk about

1096
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: what it's like to be in the NFL. But with

1097
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: these three guys, they're at completely different stages of their

1098
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: careers at this point, and I am very curious to

1099
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: see just what makes the three of them tick individually

1100
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, let alone the successes that they were

1101
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 4: having on the field last season. So that's the stuff

1102
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: that to me, I think is the most interesting is

1103
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: to see what is included that way and kind of

1104
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: how these guys live their day to day life.

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00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm really pumped about this one, and I and look,

1106
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: I like watching behind the scenes stuff, but I'm really

1107
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: excited about this one for sure.

1108
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: Sure.

1109
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's coming out on Netflix July twelfth. Are

1110
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: they releasing every episode at one time or are they

1111
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: doing like a.

1112
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 4: All eight episodes drop on that day?

1113
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: So so you get all eight episodes on July twelveth YEP.

1114
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a binge watching session for me at

1115
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: least or maybe into this weekend, because I don't know

1116
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: if I can do eight long ones like that and

1117
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: like one day.

1118
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing is with this, There's going

1119
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: to be people that are just going to gobble it

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00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 4: up as fast as possible. Just given the fact that

1121
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: you know this is right before training camp. There's going

1122
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: to be a lot of fans that are going to

1123
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: be interested in this, and it is going to be

1124
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 4: interesting because there are going to be people who are

1125
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: going to see like two episodes and then there's gonna

1126
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: be other people are going to see the entire thing

1127
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: and say just wait until kind of a thing, you know,

1128
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: like because there will be talkers in questions after each

1129
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 4: episode of it. But that's the whole thing is it's

1130
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: the weird nature of this whole thing, given that, you know,

1131
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: some people like the week to week things so you

1132
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 4: can talk about it, and then other people just say,

1133
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 4: just let me binge the entire thing and process through it.

1134
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: So I think there'll be a very good chunk of

1135
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: people that will binge it upfront and then just start

1136
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: talking as fast as I forget to come.

1137
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: Back to it.

1138
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Sure, Like you know, Succession was coming out weekly and

1139
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: I would just hear it in the office, and the

1140
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: only reason I remember is because people were talking about it.

1141
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I didn't watch it this week.

1142
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: Stop talking like I'll just forget because that's not how

1143
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: I watch TV anymore.

1144
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of people I think it

1145
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: liked binge. The whole thing is once once Netflix introduced

1146
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: that model, I think that there's a lot of people

1147
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: that just said this is the way it's going to

1148
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 4: be for the future. So yeah, it really is an

1149
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: interesting psychology test for everyone. But the idea with this

1150
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 4: one is going to be fun just to see the

1151
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: full slate behind the scenes of what happened during last season.

1152
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: Okay, just because I want to make this podcast even longer, Jay,

1153
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: is there a show that you've been watching this summer

1154
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: that you've been able to catch up on the You're like,

1155
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, like that's.

1156
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: Been like your thing.

1157
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 4: My most anticipated show going into the summer was The Bear.

1158
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: My god, that's what we're watching right now.

1159
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, as a guy who had worked in restaurants

1160
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 4: and stuff for a chunk of time, and I was

1161
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: a huge lover of kind of everything that was, whether

1162
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: it was writing or the documentary style, or the TV

1163
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: shows and stuff like that of Anthony Bourdain. I was

1164
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 4: a huge boardin guy from the beginning because his first

1165
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: book came out when I was working in the restaurant business,

1166
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: and it was one of the first times I had

1167
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 4: read something with Kitchen Confidential that I really felt like

1168
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 4: there are very big truth nuggets within the show as

1169
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: to what it really means to work in kitchens and everything.

1170
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: So to me, when they announced The Bear was coming

1171
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: out and kind of finding out kind of how he

1172
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: went through kind of the boot camp of what it's

1173
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: like to be a chef, it got to a point

1174
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: where at the very end, like the head of the restaurant,

1175
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: the head chef, the lead chef who had been his

1176
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: mentor literally was he walked in the door, He's like, okay,

1177
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: it's yours today, and he had to run one of

1178
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 4: the best restaurants in the world as kind of his

1179
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: final test before he went to go, you know, be

1180
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: the actor for the show.

1181
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I was wondering thinking to myself, like

1182
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: that was so seamless. They talked so fast and honestly

1183
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: the first episode I was like, yeah.

1184
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: Whoa, I cannot keep up. How am I going to

1185
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: keep up with this show?

1186
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: And trust me, like, there are there are levels of.

1187
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: The whole thing three or four episodes in.

1188
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: But that's the whole That's the thing, the idea of

1189
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: working in a kitchen, there is a a there are

1190
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: levels to this whole thing. There are very mom and

1191
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 4: pop run organizations, and then there is kind of this

1192
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: for lack of a better term, military style that they

1193
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: they run certain kitchens in order to live, yes, And

1194
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: so in doing that, the Bear was something I was

1195
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: very interested in, and season one I really enjoyed it. Soone,

1196
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: season two is coming out. I'm also a big Christopher

1197
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: Nolan fanco movie Wise Oppenheimer that has been my start

1198
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 4: next week, and so we got Mission Impossible this week

1199
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: and Oppenheimer next week. So those are kind of the

1200
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: two two on my list.

1201
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: It's always a good summer.

1202
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 4: Blockbuster give wise, if you haven't watched them, they're they're

1203
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 4: easy watches. They're you know, half hour episode kind of.

1204
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1205
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to do that right now.

1206
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: And The Bear is a great show for me, and

1207
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: so I really enjoyed it.

1208
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: It has a very very few shows that Josh and

1209
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: I agree on, and so this is one of them,

1210
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: and we'll watch it and be faithful to it enjoy Yeah.

1211
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: So we just wrapped up Barry. So that was that

1212
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: was our next.

1213
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: Fantastico A I do, except the I don't want to

1214
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: get to spoilers. We'll get off screen with spoilers, but

1215
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: off screen we're on a freaking podcast. Anyway, this is

1216
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up the show now. I think I think

1217
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: that's a safe bet. I just wanted to talk TV

1218
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: with Jay because I always like talking TV. But yeah, Netflix,

1219
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: July twelfth, quarterback.

1220
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: You guys come out for training Cape. We'll see you then.

1221
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Speaker 1: For now, I'm Tatum Everett, Jay Nelson Eric Davidson, thanks

1222
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: again to Paul Churchy and for being a part of

1223
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: the podcast, and we'll see you or hear you guys

1224
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,960
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