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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds and Congressman Troy Nell's won't seek reelection.

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<v Speaker 1>We have such a great show for you today. The

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Projects owner Rick Wilson joins us to discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>numerous people in Trump's White House who are doing crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll talk to can't win victory Funds Kate Compton

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<v Speaker 1>Barr about why she's a Democrat running in a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>primary for Congress. But first the news, Smiley.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know, there was a horrible shooting of two

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<v Speaker 2>National Guards troops in DC. I'm going to shock you here,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Trump administration is looking for someone to blame

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<v Speaker 2>as always. But you know what's great. They brought out

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<v Speaker 2>Christy Nome with Kristen Welker on Meet the Press to

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<v Speaker 2>fed this all and can you guess how well it went?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to play some sound now.

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<v Speaker 3>When we've at individual under this administration, we know who

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<v Speaker 3>they are, why they are here and going through that.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately this individual, that entire process happened under Joe Biden's watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, but just to be very clear, We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to what happened on the Trump administration's watch.

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<v Speaker 4>He was extensively vetted in order to serve alongside US

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<v Speaker 4>service members as a part of the CIA trained Strikeforce.

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<v Speaker 4>But in terms of what happened on the Trump administration's watch,

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<v Speaker 4>just to be very clear, what vetting did the Trump

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<v Speaker 4>administration do before giving this suspect asylum.

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<v Speaker 3>The vetting process, Kristen happens when the person comes into

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<v Speaker 3>the country, and Joe Biden completely did not vet any

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<v Speaker 3>of these individuals, did not vet this individual waited until

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<v Speaker 3>he got into the United States, and then that application

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<v Speaker 3>for asylum was opened under the Joe Biden administration when

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<v Speaker 3>he was the president in the White House and allowed

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<v Speaker 3>that to go forward with the information that they provided.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the Biden administration's responsibility. This is the consequences of

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<v Speaker 3>the dangerous situation he put our in when he allowed

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<v Speaker 3>those people to infiltrate our country during that abandonment of Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I'm so grateful we have a president

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<v Speaker 3>now that isn't going to allow it to happen. That

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<v Speaker 3>he now has put in place measures under his watch.

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<v Speaker 5>At the Department of home that we are bringing new

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<v Speaker 5>information on vetting, new information to use, such as what

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<v Speaker 5>do they do on Facebook, what do they do on

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<v Speaker 5>TikTok and other social media platforms, and who are they

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<v Speaker 5>talking to? Who are their conversations with and we use

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<v Speaker 5>their biometric data information now to track to make sure

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<v Speaker 5>they are who they say they are and they're here

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<v Speaker 5>for their right intentions.

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<v Speaker 4>So we are going to talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 4>steps the presidents taking, but it's just want to be

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<v Speaker 4>very clear about this, because his asylum was approved in

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<v Speaker 4>April of this year on the Trump administration's watch, So

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<v Speaker 4>just to be very clear, was there a vetting process

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<v Speaker 4>in place to approve that asylum request?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the vetting process all happened under Joe Biden's administer.

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<v Speaker 6>Was he vetted when.

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<v Speaker 4>He was wanted asylum?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you saying he wasn't vetted? Vetting?

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<v Speaker 3>Is vetting is happening when they come into the country,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was completely abandoned under Joe Biden's administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Oops, whats I mean? Look, I liked it when they said,

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<v Speaker 1>well what about with the court orders? And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I give all the answers, I give all the decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>I do all of it. So here's the good news,

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<v Speaker 1>these people are morons. Truly, here's the bad news, these

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<v Speaker 1>people are criminals.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not inspire confidence at all when you literally

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<v Speaker 2>just stowwall at interview with the world's stupidest talking points

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<v Speaker 2>and just do it in a folks the accent that

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<v Speaker 2>makes us Sarah Palin sound fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Palin is like an Albert Einstein compared to Secretary Christy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that that's too far off, So Moley,

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<v Speaker 2>another feature of the Trump administration loves freeing criminals like

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<v Speaker 2>up to socializing things these days. This is like passion

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<v Speaker 2>number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, here's the deal, my man. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>loves a pardon. He loves a pardon. He likes to pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>He pardons all the time. He's very into partning. And

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<v Speaker 1>why does he love to pardon? Why not? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine that there's a reason that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>loves to pardon so much that wouldn't be totally legit,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know Donald Trump is always the paragon of

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<v Speaker 1>honesty and truth. So I assume his love of pardons

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<v Speaker 1>just comes from his love of being a philanthropist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, not to say Eddie, what on our side

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<v Speaker 2>could do anything they want?

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly not think about when he pardoned everyone's favorite member

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress, George Santos, who did lots of crimes, and

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<v Speaker 1>he pardoned him because Donald Trump loves freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he missed Santos' Twitter presence where he says

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<v Speaker 2>really nasty insults the people all day, and he just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted that back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wanted George Santos to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to his work with orphans and his philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 1>Another volleyball guy, real stand up guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of stand up guys, the FDA is just filled

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<v Speaker 2>with them ever since RFK brought in a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>kooks and wacos and they're now planning to change vaccine

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<v Speaker 2>approval processes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's worth realizing that we were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Secretary Christy, my favorite, and then we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Whiskey Pete, another genius operator. But it's worth remembering

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<v Speaker 1>the person who will ultimately have caused the most deaths

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<v Speaker 1>besides Marco Usa. What's that Rubio and Elon take from

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<v Speaker 1>the poor Mosque is ultimately going to be my man.

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<v Speaker 1>RFK swims in Rock Creek Park candidate junior. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>discuss they plan to change vaccine approval process, claiming that

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen vaccine called child deaths. Here's what COVID vaccine did,

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<v Speaker 1>not that. Okay, they're just trying to undermine vaccines. And

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<v Speaker 1>why are they doing that. They're doing that because partially

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<v Speaker 1>because RFK is part of this wellness influencer community, and

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<v Speaker 1>these wellness influencers do a lot of crazy, non scientific shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's where we are. This is just sketchy

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<v Speaker 1>as hell, you know, that's where we are. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it harder to get COVID vaccines. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it harder to get all vaccine. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>if you should just be vaccinating, you know, get every

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine you can. I got the shingles vaccine. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this before, but by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to point out again this weekend a really incredible

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<v Speaker 1>piece in The New Yorker by Tatiana, the grand of JFK,

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<v Speaker 1>Tatiana Slasburg, and she wrote this really excellent piece about

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<v Speaker 1>having cancer, and she mentioned that her uncle had slash

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<v Speaker 1>funding for MR and A vaccines. MR and A vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>are the future of cancer treatment. He did it because

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't believe in vaccines, because he swims in Rock

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<v Speaker 1>Creek Park, because he doesn't understand science, because he's all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things you think he would be. Find that

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<v Speaker 1>incredible article about Tatiana Slasburg and her battle with blood cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely worth reading in The New Yorker. A

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking story of a thirty four year old woman who's dying.

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<v Speaker 1>The two children has to watch her cousin just destroy

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<v Speaker 1>American medicine. Really important article to.

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<v Speaker 6>Read, Sabi.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things we have to always decipher is

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<v Speaker 2>when Trump's trying to say something stupid to not talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Epstein files and his other failures as a president,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when there saw that's really stupid, but also

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<v Speaker 2>gets that a greater thing that they're going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to do with this administration, and that is his new

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<v Speaker 2>aggression where he says all of Joe Biden's autopen signed

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<v Speaker 2>executive orders are all canceled out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go find the picture of Donald Trump in mar

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<v Speaker 1>A Lago this weekend. I think that Tim Miller tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>it out. He does not look great. He does not

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<v Speaker 1>look great, but he's very worried about Joe Biden's autopen pardons.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't do that, you know, Like, my man's just

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<v Speaker 1>truth in it out right. He's truth socializing again and

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<v Speaker 1>again and again, trying to find something that I'll stick.

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<v Speaker 1>You're more likely to get a twenty five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>Trump check than you are for Donald Trump to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to cancel Biden's autopen pardons or whatever else he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to cancel. Rick Wilson is the founder of The

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Project and the host of the Enemy's List.

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<v Speaker 6>Rick Wilson Welcome.

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<v Speaker 7>Back, Hey Molly, how are you. How's your Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 6>Just the best? Who doesn't love Paul Dray?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely we serve Duck this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because Turkey is terrible. Let's start with a man

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<v Speaker 1>called Steve. It turns out that being from a wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>real estate dynasty does not necessarily make you a genius negotiator.

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<v Speaker 6>A negotiator.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, I mean, look, I think I think the

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<v Speaker 7>most probably the ugliest, most devastating piece.

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<v Speaker 6>Folks.

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<v Speaker 7>You if you think you have a calibration on how

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<v Speaker 7>corrupt this administration is, go read the Washington Post piece

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<v Speaker 7>from this weekend on Witkoff and Kushner and Trump who

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<v Speaker 7>do not care about Ukraine or America's security. They're trying

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<v Speaker 7>to make personal financial deals with Russia. The classes of

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<v Speaker 7>course betraying Ukraine, but they want to make these financial

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<v Speaker 7>deals with Russia to cash in. It is a level

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<v Speaker 7>of corruption that even with these guys, I still look

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<v Speaker 7>at and go, uh what how Yeah, it's dark, It's true,

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<v Speaker 7>it's dark.

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<v Speaker 6>It's dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Also important to remember that Witkoff is also negotiating with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who is also not serving in the federal government,

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<v Speaker 1>my man Jared Kushner.

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<v Speaker 7>And look, Molly, what we've got here is Kushner and

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<v Speaker 7>Witkoff and this clown show with Marco. They have now

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<v Speaker 7>in order to make separate side financial deals, taken the

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<v Speaker 7>bait with a Russian written, Russian design plan to end

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<v Speaker 7>the Ukraine War. Oh it's going to end, all right,

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<v Speaker 7>It's going to end with Russian troops and tanks in

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<v Speaker 7>the streets in Kiev. And so these guys have shown

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<v Speaker 7>us now abundantly clearly they are not about NATO American

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<v Speaker 7>security Ukraine. They're about making separate side deals. Like one

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<v Speaker 7>of wit Coss friends is a guy who wants to

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<v Speaker 7>buy the Russian nord Stream pipeline, and they are in

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<v Speaker 7>these rare earth mineral deals in Russia, and they want

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<v Speaker 7>to make do development deals in Russia. All of it

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<v Speaker 7>is so profoundly carre up. And the Russians are once

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<v Speaker 7>again playing Trump and everyone around him like a fiddle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's important to see that not only

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<v Speaker 1>are they trying to cash in, but they're also just

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<v Speaker 1>completely incompetent like Russia. You know, there's leaked transcripts of

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<v Speaker 1>the phone calls with the Russian and Russian minister trying

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<v Speaker 1>saying like this is how you negotiate with.

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<v Speaker 7>Trump, when wik Coff is on the phone saying to

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<v Speaker 7>the Russians, here's how you manipulate Trump, Here's how you

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<v Speaker 7>get Trump. Here's how you make Trump bark like a dog.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry, call me old fashion and traditionalist, but that

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<v Speaker 7>strikes me as sort of treasony.

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<v Speaker 1>And also just incompetent, and that I think the wit

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<v Speaker 1>coough incompetence really does. You know, they're corrupt, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>awesome incompetent, and.

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<v Speaker 7>So right, you can be corrupt and stupid. It's it's

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<v Speaker 7>a Venn diagram that overlaps very neatly with these people.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, thank god, because these guys were

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<v Speaker 1>good at what they did, we would not have these,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leaks of the transcripts, leaks of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we would not have the kind of reporting we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to see coming out. And by the way, think about

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<v Speaker 1>if we had a mainstream media like we had in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, think about of the reporting we'd be getting

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<v Speaker 1>every day, Tron the documents.

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<v Speaker 7>And now they're so afraid to cover a story. They're

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<v Speaker 7>so afraid to stand up. They're terrified every minute of

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<v Speaker 7>the damn day that they're going to end up on

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<v Speaker 7>the new White House social media hate list.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, which was offline for a little bit today, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a great metaphor for this admin.

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<v Speaker 7>It is a singularly perfect metaphor for this administration, because

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<v Speaker 7>none of these people, when it comes to capability and

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<v Speaker 7>competence of anything. Even their trolling is bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Right right right, you know, even.

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<v Speaker 7>Their trolling attempts are blame.

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<v Speaker 1>That gets us to this next story, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times today, which if you haven't read it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rat avoid, which is my man, everyone's favorite, and

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<v Speaker 1>by by everyone, I mean no. One's favorite David David

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<v Speaker 1>Sacks all in podcast bro, crypto king and also kleptocrat.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, David Sachs, who is a man who is never

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<v Speaker 7>not wrong. David Sax is wrong this ratio. Look, I

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<v Speaker 7>get things wrong all the time, but David Sax is wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>This ratio is cosmic. It is he is beyond the

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<v Speaker 7>valley of human understanding. How much of a wrong dipshit

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<v Speaker 7>he is about everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Except using his government connections to make money, and in

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<v Speaker 1>which that good about that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pretty freaking good at that.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a guy who you know, Susie Wiles even

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<v Speaker 7>said in that he re good piece. And it's like

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<v Speaker 7>Susie Willer's like, no, you can't host this under the

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<v Speaker 7>brand of your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and does government.

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<v Speaker 6>Employee for Fox sake.

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<v Speaker 1>David's ax is basically a sort of mini Elon Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon comes in, he does government deals, he slices and

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<v Speaker 1>dices things he doesn't like, and that's what this is,

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<v Speaker 1>except is smaller but more corrupt, but also more annoying

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<v Speaker 1>for any numberle reasons.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, he's also the guy who is in charge of

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<v Speaker 7>in the White House crypto and AI. And we know

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<v Speaker 7>two things about this right now. We know that crypto

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<v Speaker 7>is on a free fall right now, But I was

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<v Speaker 7>told it was going to be the best thing since

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<v Speaker 7>prepared mustard for people and our economy. Not so much apparently.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other thing.

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<v Speaker 7>He's doing is AI, which is increasingly people are figuring

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<v Speaker 7>it out. The reason we're doing AI is to fire everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, that in itself is bad, but even worse

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<v Speaker 1>is that it seems so far what we've seen is

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<v Speaker 1>that it just it has, as far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>almost no use except like sloppy photos and bad search.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I mean, we're only going to invest one point

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<v Speaker 7>five trillion dollars right through the government, by the way,

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<v Speaker 7>as what helps Sam Waltman, that's what it does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, imagine if they spend that money on like healthwarding healthcare.

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<v Speaker 6>Fuck healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, we spend that money in healthcare, but

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<v Speaker 1>like reporting or.

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<v Speaker 7>Like imagine Molly, if they spent that money in education

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<v Speaker 7>and just straight up education for American kids, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>imagine that for one second.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, all the arts, all.

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<v Speaker 7>These all these studies that are coming out this week,

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<v Speaker 7>Like you know, people no longer view college as a

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<v Speaker 7>worthhole investment. Well, of course they don't, because now you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you're talking about spending one hundreds of thousand of dollars

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<v Speaker 7>and AI is about to suck out the very life

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<v Speaker 7>out of every job sector that that doesn't involve, like

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<v Speaker 7>turning a wrench or wiring a circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that some of this sayah stuff is really

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<v Speaker 1>exaggerated and so like, because I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>shit that's just.

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<v Speaker 7>Your lips, for God's ear. But I still have very graves.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to whiskey Pete, my.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, whiskey, love our boy Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out that active alcoholism is not I say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is someone who's been sober since I was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>not not the best qualification for doing.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think, I think there are a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of people who have held that that is the case

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<v Speaker 7>for some time now, that being a you know, five

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<v Speaker 7>a day drunkard is not where you want to be.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're any secretary of defense. Having known a few

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<v Speaker 7>secretaries of defense, they generally are are men of probity

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<v Speaker 7>and discipline, and they are not crazy people who spend

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<v Speaker 7>more time on social media than they do working to

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<v Speaker 7>defend the country.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's whiskey Pete. Right there, let's just talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically tweeted that he does war crimes.

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<v Speaker 6>Fucking you.

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<v Speaker 7>The answer was, I do war crimes. Fuck you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what are you going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 1>But not so unlike Secretary Christie, who was on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday shows saying, I defy court orders. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah? By the way, christinome appears to increasingly be made

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<v Speaker 7>out of some sort of synthetic material.

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<v Speaker 6>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't criticize plastic surgery on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, everything everything in its place, and everything that's measure right.

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<v Speaker 1>But second Christie, she certainly had a lot of.

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<v Speaker 7>Basically, she basically came out today and was in a

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<v Speaker 7>position of saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, well, I don't care, right, I do work.

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<v Speaker 1>I do work crimes, right, Yeah. I mean the question

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<v Speaker 1>of whether, like notice the SYMPI I do war crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>whiskey Pete. What I mean the reporting we saw today

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<v Speaker 1>is that after they had blown up the ship, they

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<v Speaker 1>may have, whiskey Pete, I have ordered for them to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and kill the two other people that they

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<v Speaker 1>thought may or may not.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's the thing, and I'm just I'm just gonna summarize

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<v Speaker 7>this right off the bat. Everything that they say about

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<v Speaker 7>the President has never issued in an illegal order or

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<v Speaker 7>the or the administration has never issued an illegal order

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<v Speaker 7>that was an illegal order, that was an illegal order.

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<v Speaker 7>There is no such thing an American military doctrine in

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<v Speaker 7>the Uniform Code of Military Justice that says no quarter

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<v Speaker 7>given just doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't exist. In fact, we are required.

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<v Speaker 7>And the example that is cited in the Manual of

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<v Speaker 7>the Uniform Code of Military Justice in this country. The

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<v Speaker 7>example that is cited says uses a case of what

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<v Speaker 7>if people are on a boat and they're and they're

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<v Speaker 7>injured and out of combat, and what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 7>Are you allowed to kill them?

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<v Speaker 6>And the answer is.

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<v Speaker 1>No, except if you're whiskey p and then the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is yes. Even though you're not in a war, right

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<v Speaker 1>you've declared war whatever, right you're you're not in a war.

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<v Speaker 7>But you're in a you're in a imaginary conflict with

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<v Speaker 7>supposed drug dealers who are allegedly taking these boats that

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<v Speaker 7>have like a two hundred mile range, and they're they

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<v Speaker 7>have to stop to refuel like seven times if they're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna get to America. But you better you better shoot

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<v Speaker 7>him out of the water right now, because obviously Donnie

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<v Speaker 7>will be unhappy unless you do.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's talk about what else we're seeing here.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have this poll that came out today that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty fucking devastating. It was, I mean that the

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<v Speaker 1>morning console you saw that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep. Look, Trump's numbers are basically cratering. They're not coming back.

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<v Speaker 7>There's nothing he is doing, and frankly, nothing he can do,

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<v Speaker 7>Molly to make this thing change. It's not gonna change.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>He has killed his presidency. Anybody who doesn't get that

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<v Speaker 7>by now he's not paying attention. He has killed his

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<v Speaker 7>presidency economically and politically and temperamentally and morally and from corruption,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's all going downhill from here. It is never

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<v Speaker 7>going to get any better. This is not a world

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<v Speaker 7>where where people are gonna wake up tomorrow go You know,

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<v Speaker 7>Trump's had a really chaotic one hundred and ninety seven

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<v Speaker 7>days or whatever the number is now. But you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm really gonna give him a chance now because obviously

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<v Speaker 7>this is a guy who really, really, he's putting it

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<v Speaker 7>all out there, he's really doing his best.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not. But it is interesting to me that we

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten ourselves into such a moment here where there

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<v Speaker 1>is so we have these these these cratering numbers we have.

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<v Speaker 1>He's underwater on everything. Yep, Affordability continues to be this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of.

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<v Speaker 7>The bleed underneath everything with him is affordable right for

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<v Speaker 7>economy is kill laying him. And here's the funny part

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<v Speaker 7>of this. You know that thing we always talked to

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<v Speaker 7>in the first administration, like there wasn't a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>adult supervision, but there were occasionally people who would go, sir,

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<v Speaker 7>we can't take this argument because no one will buy it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right right now, when he.

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<v Speaker 7>Says the economy is the best it's ever been, were

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<v Speaker 7>the hottest country in the world, every single person in

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<v Speaker 7>that White House it says, yes, sir, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no there's no dispute. Here's a poll that says so,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's it's all a lie and they're doing him

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<v Speaker 7>a massive disservice. But I'm here for that.

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<v Speaker 6>Can we do carry on, Susie Wiles?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do a minute on what the problem the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's big problem here because it is you know well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also he has an unreality problem. Right His

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<v Speaker 1>polls are he says his polls are great. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>his numbers are great. He says, the economy is great.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's why we definitely haven't released the numbers because

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<v Speaker 7>they're so great. We can't release those numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is like when you have problems like that,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get into a sort of unreality problem which

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<v Speaker 1>his president has, there's no way out of it. Explain

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<v Speaker 1>to us what that is about.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Molly, A big part of this problem is once

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<v Speaker 7>you've decided, once you go all in on the bullshit,

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<v Speaker 7>once you go all in on saying the sky is

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<v Speaker 7>purple and not blue, you know, and Donald Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>weighs one hundred and seventy five pousies more fit than

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<v Speaker 7>an AVC, and all the other garbage, all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>It eventually adds up to where when you have to

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<v Speaker 7>tell the truth about something, even if it's something that's

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<v Speaker 7>actually good for you, nobody buys it. This is the

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<v Speaker 7>boy who cried wolf over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 7>And unfortunately for Trump, you know, being the boy who

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<v Speaker 7>cried wolf, it runs directly up against the actual economic

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<v Speaker 7>realities of every American. Every American family knows the economy sucks.

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<v Speaker 7>They get it. They see it. They know their groceries

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<v Speaker 7>are more expensive. They're in the grocery store, they're swiping

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<v Speaker 7>that credit card to that ATM card in the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 7>They're paying those prices at the gas pump.

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<v Speaker 6>None of that.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't bullshit people away from what's really happening in

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<v Speaker 7>their actual lives.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things Trump does, though, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting and I'd love you to talk about, is

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<v Speaker 1>he'll say, well, maybe we'll do a check, a dividend

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<v Speaker 1>check for techs. Sure, right, there's no way he can

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<v Speaker 1>do this, right, there's this one.

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<v Speaker 7>There is zero mechanism for doing this. And I will

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<v Speaker 7>tell you one other thing that I've heard over the

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<v Speaker 7>weekend from a person who was involved in the first administration. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>told me that when they did the COVID checks, the

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<v Speaker 7>stimulus checks for COVID, that was one thing. There is

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<v Speaker 7>no appetite in Congress now at all to do a

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<v Speaker 7>fake tariff check. He could not get it through the House.

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<v Speaker 7>There are enough conservatives in the House. And I mean

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<v Speaker 7>that in the old way, the small sea way in

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<v Speaker 7>the House. Who are they going to go, oh, no, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 7>we're not spending X billion dollars to give out or

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<v Speaker 7>trillion dollars to give out two thousand dollars checks.

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<v Speaker 1>Which gets us to the Mike Johnson problem, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump does not have a Speaker of the House

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<v Speaker 1>who is a Mitch McConnell. He doesn't even have god

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin McCarthy. He's got a man who basically has At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, we are in discharge petition paloozo, which means

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<v Speaker 1>a discharge petition is when the House decides, fuck leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>these are things we want to vote on.

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<v Speaker 6>We're just going to bring them up ourselves.

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<v Speaker 7>We're just going to deal what we want. I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 7>it is. It is the end. It is the end

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<v Speaker 7>of the traditional speakership, all right, it is. It is

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<v Speaker 7>a It is a total departure from what used to be.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, remember, the House already decided, at least the

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<v Speaker 7>Republicans said they're not going to be a part of

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<v Speaker 7>the traditional tripartite government of having a legislative branch. They

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<v Speaker 7>already decided that, they already said.

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<v Speaker 1>Up their power because they let Trump and Russ Vought

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<v Speaker 1>take over.

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<v Speaker 7>That is correct, And because of that, we're now in

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<v Speaker 7>a position where no one in the House can say

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<v Speaker 7>no to Trump. Right, No one in the House can

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<v Speaker 7>say stop it, you're being crazy, or we won't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But can I just say, no one in the House

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<v Speaker 1>leadership can. But Republicans in the House who are not

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<v Speaker 1>in leadership, with these discharge petitions, have very vocally said,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a fuck what Donald Trump wants.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, there's a number of people that are supporting

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<v Speaker 7>these discharge petitions. Is rising, not falling, This is not

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<v Speaker 7>It's not going to ever get any easier. And in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of the spending to do the imaginary doze checks

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<v Speaker 7>or the imaginary tariff checks would require them to pass

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<v Speaker 7>a spending bill, as we have seen, they are not

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<v Speaker 7>great at passing spending bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, now, they are very much not great at

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<v Speaker 1>passing spending bills. I think that is a great a

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<v Speaker 1>mild way of plate, a mild way of placing.

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<v Speaker 6>Rick Wilson, Maud John Fast. Will you come back?

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<v Speaker 7>I sure will.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Compton Barr is the founder of Can't Win Victory

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<v Speaker 1>Fund and a candidate in the Republican primary for North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina's fourteenth congressional district.

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<v Speaker 8>Welcome to Best Politics, Kate bar Time, Ollie, thanks for

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<v Speaker 8>having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So glad to have you. You're running for Congress and

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<v Speaker 1>you're definitely gonna win. Absolutely, explain to us what the

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<v Speaker 1>play here is.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So I'm running for Congress in North Carolina's fourteenth

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<v Speaker 8>congressional district, which is super jerrymanderd.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the candidate you're running against? And what beliefs does

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<v Speaker 1>he have about women?

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<v Speaker 8>Go? Yeah, So I'm running against the Republican incumbent Tim Moore,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm actually running in the Republican primary against him.

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<v Speaker 8>So I changed my letter in order to run in

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<v Speaker 8>the election that counts in our jerrymandered district.

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<v Speaker 9>Tim is known as a bit of a woman.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say. He actually got sued for.

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<v Speaker 8>Alienation of affection by the husband of one of Tim's girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 8>So I don't know, folks should go look at a

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<v Speaker 8>picture of him and decide how they feel about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, can you explain what that is?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>So, alienation of affection basically means stealing someone's spouse in

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<v Speaker 8>the South and out to be a thing you can

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<v Speaker 8>get sued for down here.

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<v Speaker 1>So embattled North Carolina House Speaker Tim Moore to run

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<v Speaker 1>for Congress. So he already had some problems back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three when he originally ran. So he's only

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<v Speaker 1>one term congressman. Yeah, and he has a lot of ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair we don't talk about the way

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<v Speaker 1>men look here because we don't want to objectify them.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, correct, not hot though not.

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<v Speaker 8>Twing to do the opposite of objectifying him. He is

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<v Speaker 8>a one term congressman, but he was actually the leader

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<v Speaker 8>of the state House, and he did about five terms

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<v Speaker 8>in the North Carolina State House.

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<v Speaker 6>And there he met lots of women. Apparently he did

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<v Speaker 6>meet a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's him there he is, because we're not talking

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<v Speaker 8>about appearance. I also should throw out there that he's

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<v Speaker 8>shorter than me. Just I mean, you could be seven

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<v Speaker 8>feet tall.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And also he could have a lot of game, do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he clearly has a lot of work in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the fact that he has multiple girlfriends, so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that ex husbands are suing him.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, this has hurt. He drives a maserati. So maybe

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<v Speaker 8>it's about the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh does he come from money?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, he has been a government employee for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think he's just done really well for himself

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<v Speaker 8>in the stock market.

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<v Speaker 6>If you know what I'm saying. Wow, Wow, all right,

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<v Speaker 6>So here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Tim Morris. You run against Tim Moore. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been a member of Congress for a year and change.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you running in a Republican primary in an.

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<v Speaker 6>R plus eleven ish? Yeah? Tell us why?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know if y'all saw North Carolina got further jerrymandered,

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<v Speaker 8>Like our state legislature drew new congressional maps a few

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<v Speaker 8>weeks ago, and we already had jerrymandered maps, so they

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<v Speaker 8>just like pushed it farther to try to get yet

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<v Speaker 8>another congressional seat. And basically what that means for voters

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<v Speaker 8>is that there's no competitive congressional district in our state

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<v Speaker 8>when you look at the general election, and we have

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<v Speaker 8>to run where the competition actually happens, which is in

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<v Speaker 8>primary elections. And in order to run in a primary

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<v Speaker 8>election that matters, I have to be a Republican because

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<v Speaker 8>the Republican primary is what will determine who goes to

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<v Speaker 8>Congress from my district.

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<v Speaker 1>What does your Republican primary look like? Is in an

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<v Speaker 1>open primary? What just sort of explained us the math

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<v Speaker 1>of your North Carolina primary, Because like I feel like

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>things are so bad for Republicans. I'm going to caveat this,

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and anyone who listens podcast knows this. But things are

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<v Speaker 1>so bad for Republicans that plays like this would seem

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<v Speaker 1>insane could theoretically work.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the math is really interesting here. So in North Carolina,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 8>we have a partially closed primary, meaning that folks who

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 8>are registered Republican can vote in the Republican primary, and

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 8>folks who are registered unaffiliated can pull the Republican primary ballot.

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<v Speaker 6>The primary is on March third.

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<v Speaker 8>And North Carolinians are pretty smart and so the majority

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<v Speaker 8>of North Carolinians, especially in my district, are registered unaffiliated

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<v Speaker 8>because they know how this game works. The district has

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<v Speaker 8>five hundred and forty four thousand people in it, and

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 8>our estimated win number, because primary turnout is so low,

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<v Speaker 8>is thirty three thousand votes.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's where it gets kind of nuts.

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<v Speaker 8>And why someone like me who's running a completely progressive

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<v Speaker 8>platform could win a Republican prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, what would you need? You would need how many

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<v Speaker 1>votes to win?

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty three thousand? Wow?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so tell me how you do this. So the

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 8>district is thirty eight percent unaffiliated. Plenty of those folks

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 8>are left leaning. A tricky piece of all of this

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<v Speaker 8>is I'm kind of a woman with no party because

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 8>the Republican Party obviously is not supporting my candidacy in

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<v Speaker 8>any way. And then I'm not a Democrat, so the

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<v Speaker 8>Democratic Party is not supporting my candidacy in any way,

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<v Speaker 8>which means we don't have any builtrastructure infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 9>But that's also kind of awesome.

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<v Speaker 8>So we're going to go deep old school grassroots, like

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<v Speaker 8>Neighborhood Captains a lot of lit drops. We are going

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 8>to do like holiday gift bundles with hot chocolate and

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 8>a cookie in them and some vote for Kate Barr

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<v Speaker 8>stuff attached to it as part of that lit drop.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm hoping to do something called drunk dairymandering out in Gastonia.

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<v Speaker 9>What does that mean? In January? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So drunk dairymandering is when we invite people who

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<v Speaker 8>are funnier than me and musicians who are more talented

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 8>than me to come and be awesome, and then in

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 8>the middle of it, I get kind of drunk and

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 8>try to give everyone the history of jerrymandering.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's like hiding vegetables inside a grilled cheese.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Yeah, does that work? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Surprisingly, people will show up for a thing like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I meant hiding the vegetables and the grilled cheese.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, it works on one of my children, but not that, right, Yeah,

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 9>my daughter is.

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<v Speaker 6>Way too smart for that. I mean my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to talk about them, but if I were,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that that has never worked. But also

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I've never cooked for them. So the question here is

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<v Speaker 1>someone in a blue state of blue city far away,

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<v Speaker 1>what's appetite like for this? So far, it seems pretty high.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I've been running this for two weeks now,

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 8>so it's early days and this is going to be

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 8>a real sprint. But we had a town hall on

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 8>Wednesday night and I booked a room that would hold

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 8>twenty five people and we ended up with fifty folks there.

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 8>So people are really curious about what's going on. We're

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<v Speaker 8>also in this moment, at least my opinion, like we've

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 8>used to think about politics on this continuum from Democrat

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 8>to Republican and people kind of fell somewhere on that.

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 8>But I think there's a different continuum happening, and that

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 8>is status quo to disruption, burn it down, And I

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 8>don't think that is as related to party so much

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 8>as it is to frankly age and life experience. A

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 8>lot of folks in this district are in a burn

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 8>it down place, and this candidacy is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a lot of burn it down

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<v Speaker 1>going on here. And let me rephrase that. I know,

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>just anecdotally, that there's a lot that people are very mad,

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and that they are mad at Trump for sure, but

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that my man, Chuck Schumer and the rest of the

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.240
<v Speaker 1>crowd there, they are not you know, it's not twenty sixteen,

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not Orange Man bad retweet if truth.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, it's really true. And I mean, I frankly

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 8>share that feeling.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 6>I think a lot of us do.

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and we're but we're in an opportunity where, you know,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 8>we're at the start of something new and it feels

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 8>like chaos because it is, but we also have the

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 8>chance to build something better. That's what I would like

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 8>to be a part of. That's what I want to

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 8>keep thinking about. It's not about party affiliation. It's about

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<v Speaker 8>what does a better version of democracy look like on

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 8>the other side of this, And I think that's a

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 8>really interesting conversation to be having with folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's right. So let's talk a little

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>bit about how you do this. So you do you

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>do grasps roots? You come from grassroots World. Tell us

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>your background a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So I have a master's in public health, studied

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 8>all the commie community organizers, and then I worked in

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 8>behavioral science and persuasive communication for twenty years. Most of

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 8>that was remotely for the University of Michigan, trying to

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 8>help people make healthier life choices. So my experience is

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 8>trying to get people to quit smoking or eat vegetables

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 8>instead of sweet treats, which means I am great at

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 8>convincing people to do things that maybe feel uncomfortable to

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 8>them or that they don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 6>And then for a little bit and there I ran a.

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<v Speaker 8>Company just because I have add tell us about your organization. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>So in twenty twenty four I ran first date Senate

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 8>as in the general election as a Democrat, and I

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 8>ran what we call it can't win campaign where I

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 8>just announced that I lost the day that I filed.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 8>And that means it was like a protest against jerrymandering

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 8>the whole way through because in a Jerrymander district. The

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 8>outcome is decided before votes are cast. It's just about

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 8>how that district is drawn. And my plan was to

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 8>go back to my day job at Michigan as soon

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 8>as that election was over. But when we started pulling

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 8>the data, it looked like that campaign had actually been

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 8>successful in terms of driving up voter turnout the reddest

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 8>part of my district. That county was actually one of

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 8>only eight counties in North Carolina out of one hundred

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 8>to turn bluer in twenty twenty four.

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 6>I flipped some our.

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<v Speaker 8>Votes to D votes, about five hundred of them by

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 8>our count and I outperformed other state Senate candidates. And

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 8>we were like, who knew that telling everyone you were

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 8>a loser would actually motivate them to show up for you.

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 8>But it kind of made sense, right. These are people

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 8>that have not had any politician show up for them historically.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 8>Knocked on one woman's door. She'd lived in that house

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 8>for forty years, she's eighty years old, and no candidate

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 8>or Canvasser had ever knocked on her door. And she

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 8>literally tried to give me a puppy in gratitude. And

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 8>so they don't a real Pepper, a puppy, a little baby.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 8>It was like an English spaniel.

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<v Speaker 6>It was very sweet. It's name was Many.

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<v Speaker 8>My daughter's never forgiven me for not bringing that dogs.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 8>That's like I almost never forgive you. I know, it's terrible.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 8>I mean, my husband would have filed paper. So I

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 8>did prioritize the family or the puppy, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was touch and go.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>But because that campaign actually had positive outcomes for reaching people,

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<v Speaker 8>we launched something called the Can't Win Victory Fund, which

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<v Speaker 8>is a political nonprofit that supports candidates running in Jerrymander

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<v Speaker 8>districts that it's really hard to get support when you

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<v Speaker 8>run in one of those districts, whether it be from

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<v Speaker 8>a party or donors or whatever, because you're going to

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<v Speaker 8>lose and everybody's focused on the winnable races. But that's

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<v Speaker 8>like the democratic obsession with instant gratification. That's not a

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<v Speaker 8>plan for the future. So what we do is make

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<v Speaker 8>sure that awesome candidates have the skills and tools and

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<v Speaker 8>like websites and social media experience and communications training, all

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<v Speaker 8>that stuff that they need to run high quality campaigns

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<v Speaker 8>even though they can't win.

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<v Speaker 1>So, do you have other places where you're doing that

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<v Speaker 1>and what is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Right now we're focused in North Carolina because North Carolina

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<v Speaker 8>filing deadline is December nineteenth, so that's coming right up.

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<v Speaker 8>We have been asked to work in Texas and South

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<v Speaker 8>Carolina and Tennessee. We had been asked to work in Utah,

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<v Speaker 8>but their maps look a little better, so we're going

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<v Speaker 8>to kind of see what happens there.

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<v Speaker 9>And we'll just keep growing, frankly, as much as we

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<v Speaker 9>can afford to.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do just like a minute or two on

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<v Speaker 1>like when your primary is and how it would work? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Republican primary in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so the Republican primary is March third, and Republican

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<v Speaker 8>voters and unaffiliated voters will have the opportunity to register

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<v Speaker 8>for me.

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<v Speaker 6>Is their prevent and just is it just you and

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<v Speaker 6>the incombent? That's it so far?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>If there are Democrats who want to be able to

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<v Speaker 8>vote for me, they have until February sixth to change

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<v Speaker 8>their voter registration to unaffiliated and they can do that

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<v Speaker 8>either on the North Carolina DMV website or down at

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<v Speaker 8>their local Board of Elections. It's super easy. It takes

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<v Speaker 8>about two minutes and you can change it right back

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<v Speaker 8>on March fourth, if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that makes sense. I mean, being affiliated doesn't necessarily matter,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if it's so jerry mandard.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Actually being unaffiliated is a powerful voter tool if

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<v Speaker 8>you don't plan to run for office. If you want

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<v Speaker 8>to run for office, you have to be registered to

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<v Speaker 8>either party or go collect signatures. Is an unaffiliated But

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<v Speaker 8>being unaffiliated is a powerful voting tool for folks in

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<v Speaker 8>this state because you can pick your primary ballot, so

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<v Speaker 8>you can vote on the ballot that's going to determine

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<v Speaker 8>your leader.

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<v Speaker 1>You really have been in it with the jerrymandering. We

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about the idea that maybe this ends

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<v Speaker 1>up backfiring, that this ends up giving them a dummy mander.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that feel possible?

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<v Speaker 8>It does, And especially in a couple of districts like

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<v Speaker 8>the Texas twenty eighth and thirty fourth, which are like

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<v Speaker 8>right on the southern border.

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<v Speaker 9>Places like that, right, the thing that still gives me pause.

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<v Speaker 8>This is like a feature of jerrymandering that we don't

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<v Speaker 8>talk about very much. Jerrymandering reduces the number of competitive districts,

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<v Speaker 8>which makes voter suppression more efficient and economical because you

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<v Speaker 8>have fewer places that you have to suppress the vote

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<v Speaker 8>to get the outcome you want.

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<v Speaker 9>And so as I look at the places that we

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<v Speaker 9>have ice.

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<v Speaker 8>And border patrol going, those places perfectly align with districts

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<v Speaker 8>where we would be concerned where rather not we those

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<v Speaker 8>districts perfectly align with places that Donald Trump would be

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<v Speaker 8>concerned Latino voters would vote Democrat. So the whole state

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<v Speaker 8>of North Carolina, because we have a really competitive Senate

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<v Speaker 8>race in twenty twenty six, is.

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<v Speaker 9>Ripe for voter suppression tactics.

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<v Speaker 8>We even saw just two days ago the Greenland, Greensboro

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<v Speaker 8>AT and CA and T. The Guildford County Board of

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<v Speaker 8>Elections is closing some of the early voting sites in

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<v Speaker 8>the student communities and in communities of color, beding that

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<v Speaker 8>they don't have resources, but really really right. So the

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<v Speaker 8>thing that makes me worried about counting on dummy manders

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<v Speaker 8>or on a blue tsunami is that, even if we

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<v Speaker 8>have the will for that, I'm worried we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>Voters who are afraid to go to the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Barr, I hope you'll come back.

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<v Speaker 9>I would love to. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>No moment soon Rick Wilson, Well, I junk fast, you

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<v Speaker 2>are an amazing assistant.

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<v Speaker 6>Now I'm reading these.

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<v Speaker 1>On On did a really good piece about this in

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<v Speaker 1>The Times about how if the fancier you are, the

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<v Speaker 1>less you have to know how to spell or punctuate, which.

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<v Speaker 7>By the way, I'm not unfancy, but spelling and punctuation

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<v Speaker 7>is not Jeffrey Epstein's trunk suit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not his milieu. But speaking of which, he did

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot. He wrote a lot of emails to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, including.

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<v Speaker 6>Steve, our good friend, Steve scablrd Bannon.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about these emails.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he's helping Steve do travel arrangements from Europe. He's

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<v Speaker 7>giving Steve advice on dealing with European political leaders because

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<v Speaker 7>Bannon wanted to set up his Nazi Hogwarts school over

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<v Speaker 7>in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, remember Nazi Hogwarts. I forgot about that from

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<v Speaker 1>season one.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh I remember it very well because I played a

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<v Speaker 7>small role in killing Nazi Hogwarts.

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<v Speaker 6>Michell.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell the story another time, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, heartwarming. But in this story, you have a lot

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>of emails between the two of them. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of let's see, Bannon wrote, there's a crazy jihad against you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>That there is you know what, I'm just going to say,

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<v Speaker 7>Brother Steve has a lot more explaining to do than

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<v Speaker 7>he would like to admit.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, every time he saw Trump criticism, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's apo, dude, I do this for a living. The

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>pieces are dropping are deeply researched anyway, So go on.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, okay, Steve, thanks for talking the lingo, Steve. Strangely,

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<v Speaker 7>these people on the right who are hyperactively obsessive about

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<v Speaker 7>all things regarding any Democrat, even vaguely adjacent to Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 7>there's been a massive wailing silence when it comes to

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<v Speaker 7>his sloppy Steve and his buddy Jeff who when you

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<v Speaker 7>read those emails, folks, Steve Bannon is helping him, and

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 7>he said it to him, I can give you MAGA

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 7>as a shield. I can help use MAGA to protect

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 7>and re form your image. Guys, at this point, we

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<v Speaker 7>knew who Jeffrey Epstein was as a human being. This

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 7>is moments before he gets arrested on federal charges, and

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<v Speaker 7>Steve Bannon has had a total skate on this because

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<v Speaker 7>he's on the fucking speed dials of a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>reporters and he gets a good quote.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that we're going to see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. We're going to see a lot of emails,

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<v Speaker 1>and we already saw Larry Summer's resign. I think, and look, Democrat, Republican,

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>lock them all up. We don't care. It's a non

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<v Speaker 1>partisan activity.

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<v Speaker 7>If it is Bill Clinton in there, so be it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's it, so be it. Yeah, go for it. Moving on.

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