WEBVTT - Two Jersey Js: I Choose Me 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, I'm Jackie Goldschneider. I'm Jen Fessler, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are two Jersey Jays. And Jen, you are freshly back

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<v Speaker 1>from La and a girls trip. How are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>It actually was? It was what was sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>girl's trip. I went to La so I told you this,

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<v Speaker 2>But Jeff has a conference every year in Laguna. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the most fun. So I usually go for this conference.

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<v Speaker 2>This year just hoppen to coincide with a few things

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<v Speaker 2>that I was able to pull off, like the iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>Music Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>I had BAUMO.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so unbelievably over the top grade. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so much fun. Yeah, just got to like mix it

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<v Speaker 2>up with the likes of Benson Boone and Henry Winkler.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh, by the way, Zoe Winkler is we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have her on the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know, I know, I don't know her at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she meeting zo?

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<v Speaker 2>She is a living doll? And so she's actually having

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Howard on. She wants us to come on hers

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<v Speaker 2>as well, but she's having oh like Ron Howard on next,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so that's exciting. Yeah, and then you went to Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, so I was in Texas because I have these

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<v Speaker 2>three best friends from high school and one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is still is in Houston. So we've talked about it before,

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<v Speaker 2>but I grew up in Houston, and she's been wanting

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<v Speaker 2>us to join her at the rodeo. She's on all

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<v Speaker 2>these rodeo committees in Houston. So I was finally able

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, and it was the most fun. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, an old Dominion was playing. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I haven't been back to Texas in like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five years. Well that's not true. I haven't been back

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<v Speaker 2>to Houston in thirty five years. And I got to

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<v Speaker 2>visit my old high school and.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's so nice. That's really nicely great. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you went to Texas more often than that. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a rodeo and we went to Jackson Hall like

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half ago, and we went to

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<v Speaker 1>a rodeo and it was so fun. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>energy there is just so different than it is here

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<v Speaker 1>on like the East Coast, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, oh one hundred. There's there were certain things, certain

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of it that I don't love, just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>being an animal lover, and I'm kind of unsure about

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<v Speaker 2>they say that they take such good care of the

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<v Speaker 2>animals at Rodeo, but I don't know. Some of it

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<v Speaker 2>was hard for me to watch. But anyway, having said that, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>still fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was really really fun. Time you look refresh. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and when I was at iHeart, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet one of the favorite one of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 2>that I got to meet was Tory Spelling.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, which ties in perfectly today.

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<v Speaker 2>It does, Yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost like don't want to meet my heroes because

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<v Speaker 1>like I have these women in my head as like

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<v Speaker 1>I just idolized them when I was a kid watching them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're just a little bit older than I am,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when I was a young teen just watching

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<v Speaker 1>them on nine, O, two and O was just like

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<v Speaker 1>they were everything I do. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, the same special yeah yeah, And she

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<v Speaker 2>was so warm, she was there was a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a kind of a barrier between us, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I kind of tapped her on the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>She turned around, she knew who we were, so that

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<v Speaker 2>just I was just labergasted by that. And then she kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like went over the divider to give me a

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<v Speaker 2>hug to take the picture she was such a doll.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we're gonna talk. I mean, it's just this

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<v Speaker 2>is the nine o two one a week. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>over the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we have a very special guest today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is none other than Kelly Taylor herself, Jenny Garth.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost can't believe it because, like I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just these people were never real to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But she is actually quite She has lived quite an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting life from child star to you know, very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>relationship dynamics and a lot of really good work, creative work.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really excited to dig into all of it

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<v Speaker 1>with Harber. So Jenny, he's skyrocketed to start him with

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<v Speaker 1>her role as Kelly Taylor on Beverly Hills nine o

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<v Speaker 1>two and oh the original For anyone younger who's listening,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about the one that came out ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, although I believe she might have been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that also, we're talking about the real deal,

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<v Speaker 1>like the first the first go round, the show became

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<v Speaker 1>like a ratings success, lasting ten seasons and it remains

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most successful and iconic television series ever produced.

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<v Speaker 1>And then She's worked in a whole bunch of more

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows and films What I Like About You with

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda Vines, Hallmark Movies, Lifetime Movies, many more. She's an

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneur with a fashion line Me by Jenny Garth. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the host of three different podcasts on iHeart Nine, O

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<v Speaker 1>two to one, MG, I Choose Me, and I Do

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<v Speaker 1>Part Two. She lives in LA with her husband Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>three daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny think of Jenny Garth with three daughters

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they're also are now they're like no adult all right,

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<v Speaker 1>well my age? I think no, No, the daughters are

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty or like nineteen, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny's like my age. I mean you're younger, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's maybe early fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, early fifties, so right, rights back between us, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like those younger listeners, whoever's out there listening to us

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<v Speaker 1>is even younger than us.

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<v Speaker 2>And trying to think of the equivalent, Jack, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be like.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like middle aged. Like it's I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>of us as different ages.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I appear very much, being that we are ten

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<v Speaker 2>years apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think of yourself as I'm not asking this

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<v Speaker 1>for you to freak out, but like almost sixty but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. But like, is that the way you want that?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>First all, I don't at all freak out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>of I mean, fifty six. I'll be fifty seven in August,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess I am on the other side of fifty, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know why it doesn't freak me out. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's uh and I almost feel very proud of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have a lot of things to show for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we all do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Jenny Garth By, We are so excited to have you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just telling Jackie how I was at the

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart Awards this past week weekend and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet Tory and it was just so surreal. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you now like it's just normal and you

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<v Speaker 2>and I chat on the phone all the time. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's for I think women and jet for Jackie too.

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<v Speaker 2>For us, it's like, yeah, women our age. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to even explain, Like I wish I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>to my daughter, she knows who you are, but but

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<v Speaker 2>it's I'm trying to think of the modern day Jenny

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<v Speaker 2>Garth for her It's huge for us, you guys, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we grew wanted to be. I alternated between you and Brenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly and Brenda. Really, I think everyone did.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone our age did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Most times it's one of the others.

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<v Speaker 2>And Donna and Donna yeah yeah, And that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was obviously your most I mean to me, your most

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<v Speaker 1>famous role. Is that what you consider your most famous role,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest role of your life?

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, absolutely, that was my breakout role.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the role that gave me the life I

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<v Speaker 4>have now, Like without that show, without that role, playing

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly Taylor in my life would be completely different. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm always just keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so grateful for it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've done other work that has, you know, been

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<v Speaker 4>fulfilling in different ways. But that is the show that

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<v Speaker 4>will go down that will be on my gravestone, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for sure that, Yeah, I'm sure that's I

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<v Speaker 2>love that you're grateful for it like that, because I

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<v Speaker 2>would think that it times, you know, you're so when

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<v Speaker 2>a character becomes so iconic and follows you around, I

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<v Speaker 2>would think that at times it would also become a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit frustrating. But gratitude is ye.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely really can.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean I have always been really super in

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<v Speaker 4>touch with the fact that if I hadn't gotten that role,

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<v Speaker 4>my life wouldn't be what it is today.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, I'm yeah, internally grateful for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about what it's like to be an

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old suddenly thrust into fame. Because Jen and

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<v Speaker 1>I we found like dalist fame, a reality show fame

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<v Speaker 1>in middle age, and even that is overwhelming. But as

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<v Speaker 1>an eighteen year old, were you eighteen when you got

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<v Speaker 1>the role?

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<v Speaker 3>I see, go seventeen, but yeaheenah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to suddenly be you know, I assume that you

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<v Speaker 1>could have walked down the street without being stopped. What

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<v Speaker 1>was life? How did life change for you?

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<v Speaker 3>It was weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the show didn't break out for like a good season,

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<v Speaker 4>and the second season when we started airing episodes that

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<v Speaker 4>were set at the beach, and that just got a huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Awareness across the world.

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<v Speaker 4>And I sort of went into this weird like I

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<v Speaker 4>can't leave the house mode, like a goraphobia. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also a homebody, so it kind of works for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I love to be home and I it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was difficult, like just wherever we went it was I

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<v Speaker 4>can't even think of anything else to describe it as,

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<v Speaker 4>but like the Beatles, Like it felt like that because

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<v Speaker 4>there were just always people coming at us and throngs

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<v Speaker 4>and that made me want to stay home a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting. Do any of any of the other cast

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<v Speaker 2>members enjoy that thrive in that scenario, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's even on again, like Jackie said, our b

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<v Speaker 2>List Reality TV cast World, but I think there are

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<v Speaker 2>some women that enjoyed a lot more than the others do.

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<v Speaker 2>Was was that the case with you guys, or was

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone shell shocked?

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<v Speaker 4>I really couldn't tell you what the others fully experienced

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<v Speaker 4>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know for me it was complete shell shock, complete

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<v Speaker 3>fish out of water feelings.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a Midwestern girl. I'm as normal as they come,

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<v Speaker 4>and nobody in my family had ever had anything to

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<v Speaker 4>do with Hollywood or fame or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 4>this was absolutely like way out of my comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 4>I think some people do thrive in that environment, and

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<v Speaker 4>I learned to make it work with my life, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I had to really keep that in my job category

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<v Speaker 4>in my box. That was like I go to work

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what happens. And then I come home and

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<v Speaker 4>then it's peace and I'm normal and I'm who I

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<v Speaker 4>am authentically. So there was a lot of learning to

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<v Speaker 4>live with fame that I went through over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. Yeah, well, you wouldn't have known it by

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<v Speaker 1>watching you. You always seemed to very like just perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>like Kelly Kelly Taylor and you just both seemed perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>What is perfect you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in my eyes, you know, as a kid watching

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<v Speaker 1>you like, you were the person I wanted to look

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<v Speaker 1>like and dress like and be like. And you are

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<v Speaker 1>the popular girl and when the show. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>keep in touch with your co stars asides from I

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<v Speaker 1>know you keep in such a story spelling yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>We I was just group chatting what do you call it? Texting?

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<v Speaker 4>Group texting with them yesterday, setting up some plans for

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<v Speaker 4>Ian's birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all going to be together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So we should actually tell you also how sorry you've

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<v Speaker 2>lost two of your cast met and the whole world was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just sort of prompt as I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>how hard it must have been for you all. You

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<v Speaker 2>seem to have been such a tight knit group and

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<v Speaker 2>for years and way too young for two of you, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>to not be with us anymore, just terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't make sense. It still doesn't make sense

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<v Speaker 3>for my brain, it's sure. And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Live in a world where they where they still are

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<v Speaker 4>a lot in my mind, so it's very, very hard

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<v Speaker 4>to understand that they're not here physically.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt, no doubt. Yeah, there were.

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<v Speaker 1>See and zering at. My husband would always get very

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated by the fact that he was so old and

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<v Speaker 1>playing a teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>You would always and Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>He was, Yeah, he was a few years older.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the cast was a few years older

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<v Speaker 4>than they were playing. Yeah, A couple of us, a

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<v Speaker 4>few of the three of us I think were very

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<v Speaker 4>like age similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, yeah, says I. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am sorry sorry. Yes. So when the show ended,

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<v Speaker 1>was it like did you know it was coming or

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<v Speaker 1>did it just like stop? And what was that adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>like for you for your life?

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<v Speaker 4>It was ten years I had had a baby at

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<v Speaker 4>the tail end of the show, so my life had

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<v Speaker 4>already started to go into its next phase. So luckily

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<v Speaker 4>when it ended, I had something to go put all

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<v Speaker 4>of my energy in, which was my daughter Luca, and

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<v Speaker 4>I really just dove deep into that being my purpose

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<v Speaker 4>and I loved it so much. I loved being a

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<v Speaker 4>mom so much that that was easy for me, and

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<v Speaker 4>staying home with her was easy for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>after so many years of getting up at five in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning to get to work by six and then

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<v Speaker 4>when the baby came, dragging her to work at six

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<v Speaker 4>am and having her there all day, fourteen hours a day.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a lot. And I was really looking forward

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<v Speaker 4>to just some peace in my life. And I had

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<v Speaker 4>that for a few years, and then I was like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>I need to work again.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that itch.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was when I went back out there and

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<v Speaker 4>tried something different. But it was a definite transition in life,

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<v Speaker 4>and I remember just not knowing what to do with myself,

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<v Speaker 4>like honestly, when to eat, when to go to the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 4>Because when you're working like that those kind of hours

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<v Speaker 4>every single day, literally your whole entire life is mapped

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<v Speaker 4>out by someone else on a call sheet and you

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<v Speaker 4>just follow the rules and the people telling you what

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<v Speaker 4>to do. So I was out there, I was like, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I should go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, do you feel like it was the acting piece.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it was part that you missed and

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to get back to that, but the fame

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<v Speaker 2>piece of it. And I always think about that myself

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<v Speaker 2>because when I was younger, I wanted to be an actress,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was not a very good one. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I didn't want to necessarily be an actress.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I just wanted to be famous and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be on stage. You know. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of what drove me into reality TV obviously. But

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<v Speaker 2>do you is that part of it for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still because you're still obviously you're we have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more to talk about other than nine O

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<v Speaker 2>two one zero. You're crazy busy. But is that part

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<v Speaker 2>that drives you at all? Or is it more sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like these roles and the acting piece of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you enjoy the fame or is it just at

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<v Speaker 2>this point is it just cumbersome?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it, you know, annoying to you. I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>still can't walk down the street without being stopped, and.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I've I've tried to hide from it and that

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<v Speaker 4>worked for many years, and now at fifty, I just

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<v Speaker 4>decided to fully embrace it and accept this amazing sense of.

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<v Speaker 3>Community that I have with so much support and love.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the fans of the original show have followed

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<v Speaker 4>me through to every aspect of my career, every endeavor,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have found such an enormous gratitude for them,

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<v Speaker 4>and there I feel like we are a community now

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<v Speaker 4>and I inspire them, they inspire me. So I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 4>not hiding from any of it and just really just

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<v Speaker 4>hunkering down and appreciating.

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<v Speaker 2>It right now, you can enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had.

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<v Speaker 3>This kind of career that's lasted this many years is

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<v Speaker 3>not easy to come by in this in this business.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just so.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly proud of myself for this kind of like endurance

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<v Speaker 4>and just grateful that I'm still able to work, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the.

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<v Speaker 4>Drive comes from a supporting my family. B I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>a passionate, driven person and I'm a creative.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've got to keep moving. I've got to keep changing.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to move houses, I like to get different cars,

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<v Speaker 4>I like to change my furniture.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like three husbands like I like change.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that I'm not that great with change. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>live in the same house until last time I moved

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago. I told my husband we will I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not moving in till I'm good. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stand it. That's what my husband says.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, I'm dying in this house. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I probably won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be to be dying alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but you have a lot of projects, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about it. I'm most I'm really interested in

0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 1>your clothing line, because that's sort of out and right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like not in line with like all of the

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<v Speaker 1>acting and podcasting and writing. Tell us about the clothing line.

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<v Speaker 1>You've had that for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I had.

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<v Speaker 4>I had been working with QVC on another project, and

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<v Speaker 4>through that experience, I just formed some relationships with.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, and they came to me and asked me if

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to do my own line.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was so taken back, like I was like, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I can do that. But it was like something I

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<v Speaker 4>had never done before, and entering into a whole new

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<v Speaker 4>world of business, the fashion business and design and learning how.

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<v Speaker 3>To you know, stay on deadline and deliver.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's so many parts of it that I had

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<v Speaker 4>never done, so I was like, ooh, challenged, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, I will do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that, you know, because I had before that,

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<v Speaker 4>I had started to kind of really zero in on

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<v Speaker 4>what I wanted for the next chapter.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my life, and it didn't involve acting.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't involve waiting around for projects to come to

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<v Speaker 4>me and then being told like what somebody else's vision was.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to really move forward with all the things

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<v Speaker 4>inside of me might fulfill that creative part of me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, saying no to acting for a while has been

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<v Speaker 4>really scary and it feels risky, but I keep just

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<v Speaker 4>telling myself it's okay, you're gonna be You're going to go,

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be fine. And so I'm kind of in

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<v Speaker 4>that vein right now, just entrepreneurship and also just building

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<v Speaker 4>my brand, not just with fashion, but it's the backbone

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<v Speaker 4>of the brand is really about reminding women that we

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<v Speaker 4>have the opportunity in every moment to choose ourselves and

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<v Speaker 4>that for me, you know, it's just kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>backbone of everything that the brand does, whether it's fashion,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's the podcast, whether it's the live event and

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<v Speaker 4>more to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm just I'm so.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy to have found that passion that I can build

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<v Speaker 4>upon for my future and you know what, for the

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<v Speaker 4>future of my family, Like when I'm gone, I want

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<v Speaker 4>them to have something that they can do whatever they

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<v Speaker 4>want with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to be able to leave them with stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how did you get there?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we could follow the journey of

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<v Speaker 2>your life, but was it therapy? Was there a point

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<v Speaker 2>at which you were like, you know, kind of digging deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm fifty six years old, so I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>through many transitions in my life and you know, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what really is going to fulfill me

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<v Speaker 2>at any point, right What ful fills me now at

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<v Speaker 2>fifty six certainly was very different than what did when

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<v Speaker 2>I was thirty and having babies. But was there did

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<v Speaker 2>you have some kind of an aha moment where you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, you know, thought, Okay, I'm going to put

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<v Speaker 2>acting aside and it's not doing it for me anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a long period of sort of feeling really

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<v Speaker 4>stuck and lost and unclear about what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think so many of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Go through at least one of those in our lives,

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<v Speaker 4>if not many, where you're like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>I want, I don't know what I'm good at.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't know where where can I go that

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<v Speaker 3>is has a place for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I just really sat with that for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time, and honestly, I was I'm a person that.

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<v Speaker 3>Manages depression. I've always had it, so I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought, Oh, I'm in a lull, It'll be fine, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>come back up, It'll be great. But it took a

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<v Speaker 4>lot a long time. And I had done a ton

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<v Speaker 4>of therapy. I had done a lot of self work

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<v Speaker 4>after my divorce, and I really felt the benefits of that,

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<v Speaker 4>but I was still kind of lost, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I had to really get specific about what

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted for my future, and I had to envision

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what I wanted my life to be like moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did that with a vision board, quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>and really really.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a literal one like you got out the poster

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<v Speaker 2>board and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no whiteboard.

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<v Speaker 4>I have all my ideas on it, which is one

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<v Speaker 4>entire whiteboard, but also like all of the things I

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<v Speaker 4>want my life to be like like, and I have

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<v Speaker 4>pictures and you know, I really didn't believe in that before,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just sat with it and would stare at

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<v Speaker 4>it and think hmm, and not have any clue how

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<v Speaker 4>to get all of those get there, get to whatever

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<v Speaker 4>was up there on that whiteboard.

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<v Speaker 3>And the more I looked at it, and the more

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<v Speaker 3>I kept it in.

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<v Speaker 4>The forefront front of my mind on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 4>it just started to fall into place in the most

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<v Speaker 4>magical way. And I think it just became that like

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<v Speaker 4>getting still with something, realizing what you want, and then

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<v Speaker 4>taking the steps to get there.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds so overwhelming, but if you break it down into steps,

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<v Speaker 4>it's something we can all do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always thought of it as like having a

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<v Speaker 3>little ball, like a rubber ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And pushing it up a mountain with my nose and

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<v Speaker 4>like just trying to get the ball, and we come

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<v Speaker 4>back down and then I push you back up again

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<v Speaker 4>and then we'll come back down a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 4>for me, that's what life has been like. And I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I'm like on the sort of all plateau

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<v Speaker 4>of the mountain right now, feeling very safe, feeling very

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<v Speaker 4>good about where I am.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's always a bigger mountain to climb. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want that, I love that. I love that because I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think both of us feel sort of at a

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<v Speaker 1>crossroads right now. I know, at least I do. Our

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<v Speaker 1>show that we've always had is paused, and we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of considering what the next parts of our you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have children who are going to be leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>home in a few years, and and I just am

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out the rest of my life and

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<v Speaker 1>what I want. So that vision board, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>never really considered making one, but if it, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right, I feel so like I'm fascinated by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you give us an example of just one thing

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<v Speaker 2>on the vision board, like I'm trying to picture myself actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, taking run it, what's here, scrambled in here,

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<v Speaker 2>put it out there, onto side, start.

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<v Speaker 3>With putting it, throwing it all up there.

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<v Speaker 4>Just get it out of here and put it up

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<v Speaker 4>on a board where you're actually seeing all the things

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 4>that are in your head. And then you start to

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<v Speaker 4>sort of some of them rise to the top, and

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<v Speaker 4>then the ones that rise to the top energetically, opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>will come to you that will fit with those. It's

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<v Speaker 4>there's something about you know, definitely about envisioning the life

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<v Speaker 4>you want and really getting specific about it, and then

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 4>once your mind is in that energetic place, things will

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<v Speaker 4>come to you. It is I can't really explain it.

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:49.360
<v Speaker 4>It's just the way it is, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel it's you are explaining it. I just I love specifics,

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like I work so well. I can't be big, you know,

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of dream of something, make it happen has never

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>worked for me. I want to know. Okay, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go out to Staples and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>buy the piece of post word.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get a poster, order a white board.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a white yeah, I mean it like I like.

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<v Speaker 2>I like instructions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, get a bose. Then put it all up

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 3>on the board. Get all your ideas out, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you give us an example, like what was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ones. Hell's one of the ones that you

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 2>put up there.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the one for twenty twenty four was start

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<v Speaker 4>my brand, start a brand, Start my brand, and I

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<v Speaker 4>had specifically start me by Jenny Garth.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the brand, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no concept of how I was going to

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<v Speaker 4>do it. I had I've never started a brand from

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<v Speaker 4>I have started a brand from the ground up with

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 4>a partner, but I had never done it solo, and

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 4>so I knew how to do it step by step.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 4>It was just a matter of like hunkering down and

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 4>doing the work, because it is a nine to six

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 4>pm job.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single day I.

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Go into my office, I submer urge myself in the

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 4>world that I want to create with, you know, those

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 4>inspirational messages in front of me, and then I just work.

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I make calls, I send emails, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about who do I know, what doors could I

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<v Speaker 4>find that are slightly open, and then those are the

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<v Speaker 4>things that sort of fall into place.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things, you know, one of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Things has always to make sure I'm creating in a

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<v Speaker 4>daily a date on my daily calendar, me time where

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, whether it's going to the gym, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>going and taking a nice bath, doing like a whole

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 4>skincare moment for myself, whether it's eating healthy, prepping my food.

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, all those things are part of the whole picture.

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 4>So you have to really think about what your balanced

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<v Speaker 4>life will look like, and so the specifics of it

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 4>are just as important as doing it.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's just you've got to really visualize it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel happier now at your age? And so

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<v Speaker 2>I've also battled pression and anxiety and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I've gotten older, I feel better about myself,

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<v Speaker 2>about my life. I mean, and it's funny, right, it

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 2>seems antithetical to aging, but I feel more calm and

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 2>peaceful and like I have just more of a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of self. Are you, And I'm thinking about you, coming

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<v Speaker 2>from such fame and fortunate at such a young age,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably I would think that you feel even calmer

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>and better about yourself now than maybe when you were seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I mean in my early life I was thrown

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 4>into this world such a fish out of water, really

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 4>trying struggling to figure out my place and how.

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<v Speaker 3>To maintain my own sense of self within it all.

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 3>And that was really hard for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, not to mention, my job was stepping into

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 4>somebody else's shoes every day, putting on a different character,

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 4>whatever the job was. So it's been a lot of

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 4>my time not even being myself. It was being another somebody,

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 4>whoever the character was I was portraying, And so I

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 4>really lost myself along.

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 3>The way, I.

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 4>Didn't have, you know, And I'm kind of the person

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 4>too that loses themselves in I've lost myself in motherhood.

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 3>I lost myself in.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 4>My relationship, and it took a lot of work to

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 4>reclaim my identity and fall back in love with myself

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 4>first and foremost. And I think that when you reach

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 4>that point where you can honestly tell yourself I love

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:34.959
<v Speaker 4>you and I'm going to take care of you today,

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>that's the point when your life just starts to blossom

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 4>and it's indescribable.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that reason that realization?

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I turned fifty and I was like, Okay, I've

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 4>got to get my shit together. I need to have

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 4>some I need to figure out my purpose. I need

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>to have that drive that I know is inside of

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 4>me and there are things that I know I'm destined

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 4>to do. But I was just afraid. I was frozen

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 4>with fear, and I was I didn't think there was

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 4>room for me. Like you look, say you want to

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 4>start a skincare line.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a million skincare lines.

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 4>Out there, right and you look on the internet and

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 4>you're seeing your feet and you're like, oh my gosh,

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 4>look how beautiful that is? And look how successful they are,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 4>and wow, that's such a cool group of women. And

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 4>once I stop thinking like I'm watching it and started

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 4>thinking like I'm in it with them, Like I found

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 4>this like ability to find my seat at that table

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.479
<v Speaker 4>within my own concept. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that because I'm going through the same thing

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>right now. I just started my second book and I'm like, well,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to write it as well as like

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>all these people on the bestseller list, But I have

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to stop. I have to just think of myself as

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>one of them. Right, So you just have to think.

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Of yourself every day.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Remind yourself to go back to the who you are

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<v Speaker 4>at your core, what makes you authentic to yourself, and

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 4>just stop trying to be what anybody else thinks or

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 4>wants or expects, but just come back to I am enough.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Like I know it sounds corny and but it's so true.

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Like just on the way home from the gym, I

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh my god, I love myself so much.

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 4>I was like doing my affirmations in the car. And

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 4>it's daily practice. It's daily work.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 3>If you want to know.

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>It's also probably staying off of social media because that's

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a landscape where everybody tells you who you are, and

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>especially as a reality persona where you're living your real

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>life and the cameras they tell you know how well

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you're living or if you're you know, doing well at

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>life or not. And it's really like you can convince

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself of the majority opinion on there when.

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely and you can.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do it.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't scroll doom scrolling they call it, right, and

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I get into a real place of compare despair, Like

0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 4>when I start looking to everybody else's perfect lives and

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 4>how accomplished and successful and fun it looks, I go

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 4>to a place that's not healthy for me, like and

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>I have to stay I have to stay away from it.

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 4>And that's a daily choice to just stay focused on

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 4>the prize for myself and for my family and not

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 4>let all that other stuff get in my head because

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 4>I are you able.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>To do it?

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>With it in there?

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you able to stop? I mean, I've tried made

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>this promise to myself, and every day I'm still not

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>there yet I get sucked back into the abyss. I

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 2>mean it's so depressing because I know that days that

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't do it, hours that I don't get stuck scrolling.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Are happier hours, yeah, more peaceful hours, right, But I

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>still still it pulls me back in.

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 4>I know, I'll find myself dipping in a little bit,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Like I'll go in and try and do I like

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 4>to engage with my with my friends on there, and

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I will be like and then I'll all sudden by

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 4>myself scrolling and I'm like, ohoa, we're not doing that.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 4>We have other things that are more important than this.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 4>So you just got to talk yourself down.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>So you're three girls there are they're adults now, right?

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean there were always little girls on the red

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>carpet with you. Are they are they home? Are you

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>empty nesting?

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm about to officially enter into the empty nests zone

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 4>my eighteen year old graduating.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 3>It's the last. However, I have a daughter that moved

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>back in with me, uh.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 4>So, which I love, Like I'm not compained at all,

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 4>But she still feels like she is fulling the coop.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 4>So I kind of feel like a roommate with her now, which.

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Is how I love. Yeah, and you're all.

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Doing their own things, which is amazing.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>That's really great. It's great to watch your kids just

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>succeed in life. It is many actresses been married. You've

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>been married to Dave is your third husband? You said, yeah, yeah, okay,

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and there's a nine year age gap. Was that difficult

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to navigate? Was it? Did you not feel it?

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I definitely considered it.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 4>In the very beginning, I knew that we were in

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 4>two different sort of developmental places because I had just

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 4>come out of doing a ton and ton a ton

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 4>of self work and going on solo trips and you know,

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 4>seeking out all the things I could find to enrich myself.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 3>And he was not in that space yet.

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 4>But we fell for each other and he fulfilled a

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 4>lot of different parts of me, Like he brought in

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 4>this beautiful levity, and he made our family feel that

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 4>laughter again, which we had kind of lost after the divorce.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, and he and his young that young side

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 4>of him was really fun for me. But I later

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 4>learned that he's basically an eighty eight old man in

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 4>a forty four year old body, which actually works for

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 4>me because, like I said, I'm a homebody.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I love to just be with my family and he

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 3>does too.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 4>But it was it is something and we just actually

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 4>talked about it recently the other day that that gap,

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 4>that age gap is never going to go away. We

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 4>might feel like we're the same age because we're you know,

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 4>always together and doing the same things, but developmentally, I

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 4>am nine years ahead of him, and we all know women,

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>well most women, some women kind of evolve quicker than men.

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 4>So it's about like looking at where each of us

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 4>are and respecting that and trying, for me, trying to

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 4>not have any expectations of him being where I am

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 4>all the time and letting him be where he is,

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 4>which is almost a decade difference, you know, and that's

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 4>there's so much growth that happens, especially well in every

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 4>decade of your life. But I found so much for

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 4>me personally in my forties into my fifties. A lot

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 4>of people feel it in their thirties. But I always

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 4>say I'm kind of ten years behind because I was

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 4>on nine or two and zero for ten years and

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 4>that was such a bubble experience of not developing normally.

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 3>So I've always said I'm like ten years behind.

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that the age difference, well, it doesn't feel

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 4>like it day to day.

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 3>You have to do you have to kind of step

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 3>back and look big picture and recognize.

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, I go, it doesn't feel like that

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>big of an age difference to me, maybe because I

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>know it's ten years and ten years my husband and

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I are almost seven years apart. He's older, but maybe

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 2>because he is the man that he just still is younger.

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 4>No, it's definitely a different dynamic when the man is

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 4>older than the woman.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 3>Woman is older.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Than the man in the relationship and she's successful and

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 4>completely independent.

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 3>There are so many different things that come into play.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 1>How did you meet Dave?

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 2>How did you meet him?

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 4>We met a blind double date, like a setup with

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 4>a double another couple, and that's when.

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I never heard of that. That's clever, that

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it was a setup.

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Did you so you had a difficult divorce from Peter Practice, I.

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Would say in behind closed doors it was extremely difficult.

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes, was that? Did you think that you would find

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>love again?

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't want to find love again. I was

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 4>so really Now, after I got over the trauma and

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 4>the pain and like gluing myself somehow back together into

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 4>this new form of a human, I was like, yeah,

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm good.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to date, I don't want to do anything.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 3>And then people started to like, you should go on

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 3>this go to dinner with this guy.

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I know, Okay, I'll try it, I'll practice. And as

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.479
<v Speaker 4>I started to do that, I start to really get

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 4>very clear on what I didn't want moving forward. So

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 4>it was easy for me to make a list of

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 4>like my non negotiables, the things that I was looking

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 4>for in a partner, and the things that really just

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't work for me moving forward in my life. And

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 4>I was able to really define those and I had

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 4>to give and take on some of them for sure,

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 4>and also just allow for Dave to.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Have growth in his life, you know.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's a completely different person than he was

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 4>when I met him.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 3>He's a different person than he was yesterday.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 4>Like I really believe in allowing yourself to evolve on

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 4>a daily basis.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have a podcast dedicated to remarriage divorce. I

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>do Part two. Yes, it's another iHeart podcast, one of

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>three that you host currently.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have OG which is the Rewatch Have I

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Choose Me, which is my solo project in kind of

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 4>in the health and wellness space, And I have I

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Do Part two, which is Yeah, finding Love the second time.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Actually I've been doing I've been hosting some of them myself. Yeah,

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm married. Yeah, I'm married twenty five years. But my

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>husband and I were separated for a year and a

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>half and it was you know, it's it's a very

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>different thing than what I picture that it would be

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>coming back together. I mean, everybody has that story. I

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>guess on some level. Everybody changes and relationships evolve and

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they change, and there's always a part two. I feel

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>like sometimes it's you know, it's divorce, or it's separation,

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 2>or unfortunately sometimes people are widowed. But it's very interesting.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this second time around, and even though

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I've been married, I've definitely there are different dynamics in

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>my marriage than I ever thought that there would be.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's such a fascinating topic, right.

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 3>It really is. The relationships are not easy.

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 4>It's not I don't know if it's natural for you

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 4>to meet somebody a complete stranger and then be with

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 4>them twenty four hours a day, every single day, for

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 4>the rest of your life, Like that's a big commitment.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Amen.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I think it's just about allowing each person

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 4>to have their individuality and then really cherishing that middle

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 4>space that you both share and that you both put

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 4>energy into that's your relationship, but really maintaining those that

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 4>you are your own unique, you know, whole and complete

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 4>humans without one of them.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I love that. And Peter came on the podcast.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yeah, and yeah, Peter was on the podcast. He

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 3>was on I Choose Me?

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And how was that for you guys? Was that healing

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>at all?

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Or it was?

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 4>I was very uneasy going in. I didn't know what

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 4>was going to happen. I didn't really even have anything prepared.

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to sit down on a couch with them.

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 4>We had never sat and down and talked. It was

0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 4>always texting. Wow, it was always emailing and just like

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 4>budding heads constantly for.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe he agreed to that. This is some

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 2>brain I know to.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Do it publicly. It was so scary and brave.

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I know. Well.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I really went to him and I said, A, nothing

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 4>will go out that you don't want to go out,

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 4>and b why don't we use our story to help

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 4>other people see that they can do it, they can

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 4>get through this because it was very difficult for us,

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 4>and I think through sharing our story it made us closer.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 3>It kind of closed that loop of.

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Anger and pain and resentment and It sort of put

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 4>us on a level of we have a friendship now

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 4>and a newfound respect for one another because I had

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 4>never heard him say the things that he told me

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 4>on that podcast really and it was really interesting.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't do much talking. I just literally let him talk,

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 3>and so much poured out of him.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 4>It was really, I think, good for him, it was

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 4>good for me, and it was definitely good for our daughters.

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh so that's great. You feel like your co parenting

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>relationship changed after that?

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, amazing And how is everything today?

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Everything today is, you know, much better.

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 4>We stayed at his house during the fires, like I

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 4>feel comfortable, like saying, you know, we need a home

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 4>to stay in, can we come to yours? And he

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 4>was yes, of course, And we spend time together. We

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 4>can go to dinner together. We can hang out.

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Now you go to dinner together?

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Wait? Is he remarried?

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 3>He is engaged and he has a two year old baby.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's huge. That's not easy to get there.

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 4>It really isn't. But there was so much Like I

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 4>was starting to feel like I was holding on to

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 4>the anger and the pain, and I started to recognize

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 4>a bitterness in myself and it's just an overall negative.

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Feeling like a cloud. And I was said to myself.

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 4>I do not want this moving forward. This is not

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 4>the me I want to be, and I really how

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 4>to just release it, work really hard to release it,

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 4>because at the end of the day, you guys, it

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 4>does not matter.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Nothing matters.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 4>All the arguments, all the disagreements, all the issues, they

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 4>don't matter. What matters is how you make people feel

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 4>in the moment, and how your kids need to feel

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 4>moving forward in their life and see their parents' relationship.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 4>I think it's just evolution and getting to a place

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 4>where you prioritize the things.

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 3>That are really important to you.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 4>And for me, peace and kindness are just like at

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 4>the forefront of what I want to focus on.

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I feel like I need you to

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>be in my Life's amazing. Everything that you're saying makes

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>so much sense to me. I mean in this moment

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>where I just am all most fifty and just don't

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>really know where I want my life to go. Do

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>your daughters want to be actresses? Are the actresses?

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 4>No? One of My oldest daughter tried it, dappled in it,

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 4>both commercials.

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I did a movie with her.

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that the level of rejection was hard for

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>her and it didn't make her feel good like in

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:21.439
<v Speaker 4>her heart.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 3>So she pivoted.

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 4>And my middle daughter is into fashion and she's actually

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 4>my creative design director on the brand.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we work together every day.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 4>And my youngest daughter, the one that's about to graduate

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 4>from high school, she is interested in psychology and she

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 4>is a huge inspiration. I'm really excited about what's about

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 4>to happen for her. She's going to create her own

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.919
<v Speaker 4>platform and her own podcast that's going to really reach

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 4>young girls who have been in similar situations as she

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 4>has and just talk about that struggle and how hard

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 4>it is to be a young girl in this day

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 4>and age.

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I absolutely love that.

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's a testament that your daughters want to work

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>with you, you know, I want to do a film

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>with you and want to work on you know, on

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>your fashion label with you.

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 4>My really best friends. It's weird, we're best friends. I've

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 4>always been like, hey, guys, I am codependent.

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 3>So deal with it.

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And the same yeah, like, welcome to the rest of

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>your life.

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 3>If you're working with it. I'm okay with it.

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.839
<v Speaker 4>But I've sort of SOT in this new place of like,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 4>how about we try interdependence where we're you know, again.

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 2>We're branding but on our ice.

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 3>But we still need and love each other, you know,

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 3>and we're all flying with that.

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Jenny, tell us about the fashion line, I tell us

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I mean. You know, You've talked a lot

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>about what the goals, but what is specifically what is

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 2>this fashion?

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's exclusive to TVC first and foremost, so I

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 4>have the wonderful design team there that I work with

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 4>pretty much on a daily basis, and we are designing.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 4>I would call this ready to wear day like easy

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 4>to throw on looks that you can just go about

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 4>your business in your day, uh and feel strong and

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 4>confident and put together and beautiful and comfortable. I mean

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 4>that's the like driving force for me is comfort, and

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm really pushing towards trying to get more sustainability in there.

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a challenge, but I'm not afraid of a challenge,

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 3>so I'm going to keep pushing that. But I love

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 3>our clothes. I wear them every single day.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Like that sweater. I love the sweater you wear sweater.

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 3>The shirt and the pants you got.

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, I love it.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 3>They're all Jenny, They're all by Jenny Garth.

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because they're I'm like scrunched up in my outfit and.

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I feel so comfortable.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I have so many plans for tonight. Chop

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>on QBC, make my vision board. Oh my god, I

0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>want it.

0:44:58.360 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 3>That sounds fun. Can I come hang out?

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>We'll do it together, please please. My kids are all

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>going out, so I'll just be driving. So what what

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>TV projects? Movie projects? Can we look forward to seeing

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you in?

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Nothing right now? Which I am telling you that, I mean,

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I even just you know, I really was specific.

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I just turned down and offer a couple of days ago.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Scary, the very scary, scariest hell second, guessing myself for

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 4>days afterwards, thinking oh, should I have done it? The

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 4>money would have been great and it's always good to

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 4>do another movie like it keeps you going, And I thought, no,

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 4>that's not what I want to spend my time waiting

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.720
<v Speaker 4>in a trailer for people to tell me that they're ready.

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 3>It set for me like, I want to be out there.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 4>I want to be connecting, I want to be creating,

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 4>and I want to be inspiring.

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, So I do you want to spit into

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 3>my category.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Right now, that's scary and it's so admirable. That's so cool.

0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Like you've been saying yes for so long, right and

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>to really become a grown up and say it's so scary.

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 2>But this does not serve me anymore. Yeah, right on

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 2>my own. Yeah, not right now, not in this moment.

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel like I'm going to take so many

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>things from this conversation, like it caught me at the

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<v Speaker 1>right moment in my life. I loved it and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to have met you. In my head, you

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<v Speaker 1>will always be Kelly Taylor, but you're also a really

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>remarkable woman who's accomplished so much. So so thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us today. So nice of you.

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<v Speaker 3>All this compliments, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's real, sir. It Yeah, So we'll we'll look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to checking out your your projects and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to make a vision board and if any of it

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>comes comes through, I'm going to DM you and like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, change that when it comes through, when it comes,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes through.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it really matters how we talk to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>As that's true. What's the name of the sweater?

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<v Speaker 2>Just just.

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<v Speaker 3>This is if you go to GBC dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>You can type in me by Jenny Garth in the

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<v Speaker 4>search bar, and it's called the Frankie Turtleneck and it's

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<v Speaker 4>got a cute little hen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be at the top of GENS vision

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<v Speaker 1>board by the Frankie.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not going to have time to put

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<v Speaker 2>it on the board because I'm gonna have to get

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<v Speaker 2>off the pod QBC dot com. It just looks, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so, it's pretty uncomfortable looking, and that's exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>I like to dress good.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, thank you so much for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 3>You're so welcome. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, have a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye. She was amazing. I feel like that caught me

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<v Speaker 1>right at a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Billie, why what's going on with you?

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Just because I'm trying to figure out what else to do.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the show is on pause right who knows

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.959
<v Speaker 1>if it's coming back? And I wake up a lot

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and think, well, if it doesn't come back, what am

0:47:58.640 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I going to do when I'm done waiting?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And like, what am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>Even even though you were writing a second book, we

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 2>have not even discussed it.

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just it just started. Yeah started.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't news to me. How exciting is that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I haven't. I don't really, I haven't really spoken

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>about it yet because it's so so brand new. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really exciting. But also, like you get that imposter

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>syndrome where you're like, can I do this? You know

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not memoir, it's it's a novel. So

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like it's so new for me, and like

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I have all these ideas and it's really fun, but

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>then I get these moments where I'm like, there's so

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>much better novelists out there, and then like I read

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 1>I read stuff about like I'm deep diving on White

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>lotus right now. So I was reading like the New

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>York Times magazine did this thing, I'm Parker Posy and

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about like Mike White and his head

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and like what all these relationships mean. And I was like, God,

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>like my characters aren't that in depth yet, you know,

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe I should stop. And then I'm like, no, like

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 1>we don't all have to be Mike White, Like it

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be like an Emmy winning thing. Right

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, right.

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Like we should do if we should do an episode

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>just on this, because I find that so many things

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 2>in my life I've given up on because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be as good as it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be as big, as it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be enough. And like ideas that I had. I had

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<v Speaker 2>this one idea going back years and years of doing

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 2>a clothing line called Monday Mornings, and I wanted it

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<v Speaker 2>be spelled m O U r n I ngs. It

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of kitchy because like on Mondays, you're kind

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 2>of in mourning about all the self destructive shit you

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 2>did to yourself over the weekend, right, And I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to have it be you see it a lot

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<v Speaker 2>now like jeans slash sweatpants, right, I feel like sweatpants,

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>but their genes. I wanted to do something where like

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<v Speaker 2>the size was instead of saying size six, it would

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 2>say usually a six or or a six during the week,

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<v Speaker 2>and then make the clothes that were just easy to

0:49:53.760 --> 0:50:00.280
<v Speaker 2>slip into and comfortable and made you not feel so restricted. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I had this idea, and imposter syndrome got the best

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<v Speaker 2>of me, and it just never got even off the

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<v Speaker 2>ground because somebody else was going to have it, or

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 2>somebody else is going to do it, or somebody was

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<v Speaker 2>better at it, somebody else's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Follow through is hard. It also it takes a lot

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>of work. I am somebody who loves immediate gratification, and

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the fact that writing a book takes so long is

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 1>something that also turns me off. But it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. It's definitely off the ground, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>still new. So once it's once i'm sure of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk more about it. But in the meantime, i'm

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<v Speaker 1>just My point is that, like, it's really easy to

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<v Speaker 1>get stuck in this I don't know what I want thing,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that vision board idea is very appealing

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>because then you can visualize what you want, right, you

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>can spell it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, seems more manageable, maybe when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it in like little pieces, right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I also need to remind myself of the

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>part where part of what I should want for my

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>life is peace and to filled my life with loving relationships,

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>true friendships, you know, So I have to work that in.

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not all about like what's going to make me

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<v Speaker 1>money and give me visibility and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also have a hard time, you know, remembering

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>my priorities. What my priority is.

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<v Speaker 2>Very honest, and I can definitely relate to that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>like work on that a lot in therapy, like without

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 2>any of the hoopla or like whatever comes along with

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 2>this little tiny bit of game. And I've been again,

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:34.840
<v Speaker 2>you've been doing this way longer than I haven't a

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 2>way bigger capacity. But like all of that is really

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<v Speaker 2>not what matters is knowing that I'm enough, Like just

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.319
<v Speaker 2>as Jenny was saying, it sounds cheesy, but like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good without any of that, without any of the extra, right,

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm enough, I'm special enough. We all are getting

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of crunchy now, but I mean, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, And working on myself the past few years,

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely I'm definitely getting much closer to that place

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<v Speaker 1>where I know, no matter what my job title is

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>or what I accomplish work wise, I am enough and

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm loved and you know all that gooey stuff. But

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's hard to job job wise. If

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a worker, it's it's hard. Anyway, I loved this

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and I loved her, and I'm definitely going to put

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.879
<v Speaker 1>in play some of the things she suggested. She really

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>is an inspiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman, Yes she is. By the way, does age she's

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<v Speaker 2>dis gorgeous?

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 1>No, I know she's beautiful too. Wow. All right, this

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<v Speaker 1>was really fun and h and until next time, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope you love this episode. Give us five stars

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks you guys.