WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Done Deal 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:07.200 The following. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.200 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.520 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.880 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:26.360 World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.520 Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and new he Scruggs. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:38.000 Players Lounges back. Let's Rye, Barry Church, heck Ma Harrison. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.160 I'm new he Scruggs, Danny McCrae's outworking Cowboy Council. He's 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.720 not here today. We are not in beautiful Oxar, California. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.159 We are right here at the Star in Frisco, in 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.680 this beautiful in this beautiful studio with all the. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.959 Good air conditions. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, that's number one 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.320 for him. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.960 Everybody I told him before he even got here, dropped 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.200 the thermostat on there right. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.680 I think relying energy got us for you. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.080 It's all good, It's all good. We must start with 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.959 the money, okay. Bottom line is you have to start 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.520 with the money because this is that time of year 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.880 where teams are trying to get deals done. The Cowboys, 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.800 we know, are sitting here with some good players that 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.919 they've got to talk. We talked about it before. Dak Prescott, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.600 CD Lamb, Micah Parsons. You got Treybond Diggs. These are 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.520 guys who are coming up. They got digs done before 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.520 the first practice here. So five year, ninety seven million 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.399 dollar extension. Todd Archer breaks it down at six years, 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.520 one hundred and four million dollars for. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:35.479 Trey Bond Diggs. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.640 Bonus twenty one point three I sheuly said, twenty one 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:43.520 point two five million with guarantees. Get up forty two 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.039 point three million dollars for a corner that folks have 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.600 been looking for since Dion Sanders left here. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.280 I know there's a bunch of people that wanted Byron 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.080 Jones to get paid. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.880 I was one of those that said, you know, I 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.760 like Byron Jones, but you don't take the ball away. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:57.200 You pay. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.440 You pay for people to snatch. Snatch that all the way. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.320 That's at a quarterback league. So dig just paid. Let 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:04.480 me start with you your thoughts. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.640 You know, I think it's well deserved. It's well deserved. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.520 I think they had to get this done because he's 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.400 one of the cornerstone pieces of that defense that seems 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.760 to just be rising as the years go on and 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.840 if we look at his game, you know, his rookie 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.760 year gave up a lot of yards. But to me, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.640 what stood out the most is he's coachable because then 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.440 that following year he came back eleven interceptions. Out there, 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.560 he's taking the football away, just like you said, like 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.480 the top corners should be able to do. If you 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.120 can take the football away and create offense on your own, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.200 I mean you're gonna be one of the highest paid corners, as. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.120 We see with Trayvon Days. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.280 And he follows that back up again after the eleven 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.519 interception year, he became to me the complete corner because 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.919 he was locked down. I mean he went to get 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.680 some of the top receivers in the game hit him 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:42.680 to one two catches. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:43.120 I think A J. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:50.240 Brownly had one catch down, So I think it's well deserved. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.840 He's becoming that complete corner. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.840 And with the addition of Stefan gillwhere this could be 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:54.600 a dangerous duo. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:59.240 I mean, look at look at Treylon from this aspect, 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.560 he was a second round guy, so he didn't have 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.440 the fifth round option. That was the thing that really 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.639 made his deal. I have to do situation for the Cowboys. Now, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.040 when you look at where he is. As far as 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.320 the contract that they signed, they did not reset the market. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.040 So that's them to this whole deal is that he 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.519 didn't want to get paid more than some of those 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.519 top guys in the league. And I think with all 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.480 of the things that you have coming down the pipeline, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.800 if you're Stephen Jones, he does not want to be 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.840 known as that guy that kicks the can down the 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.840 road and always gets guys signed late, like he did 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.480 with Dak and some other contracts that we've seen, right, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.480 But you had to get Trayvon dis done and that 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.880 deal is done now, and I think it's a it's 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.720 a team friendly deal that also allows you now to 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.960 get some other pressing needs done. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.920 Somebody's getting the cap, somebody's. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.440 Getting to tag you know they I don't want to 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.040 hear that, but I think the deal that they made 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.320 happen when Trayvon they had to and he was in 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.880 the advance, he had the advantage and he got paid 0:03:59.240 --> 0:03:59.560 all right. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.360 Todd Archer breaks it down here for by the way, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.320 Todd Archer of ESPN dot Com breaks down the money. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:10.760 Uh So this year twenty twenty three, one million dollars 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.600 twenty twenty four eleven million dollars hit, twenty twenty five 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.240 nine million, twenty twenty six fourteen point five million dollars, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.880 twenty twenty seven nineteen point five million dollars, and twenty 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.960 twenty eight twenty million dollars. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.400 So he's got an active roster bonuses. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.280 Totally one million dollars from year twenty four through twenty 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.400 twenty eight, and he can make an additional six hundred 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:35.040 thousand dollars per year through escalators. Escalators each year, five 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.880 interceptions plus the playoffs is three hundred thousand dollars. Seven 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.680 interceptions plus the playoffs six hundred thousand doables. So these 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.560 are these are doable things there. And one more thing 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.720 we talked about with Diggs while he had that rough 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.400 first year. That was with Mike Nolan. Nobody on dealbo. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.960 You're bringing dan Quinn and and and and there you know, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.640 there you go. So the interesting thing about that go 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:02.320 back to cd Am getting drafted. The Falcons had to 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.039 pick before Dallas when dan Quinn was there. They took 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.719 corner A J. Terrell and you and I were talking. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.440 We we both said we wanted a corner in the 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.320 first round, and we said Diggs Yep, doesn't happen. They 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.320 get him in the second round. So here dan Quinn 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.800 getting the coaching. And I asked dan Quinn two years ago, 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.360 I was like, why did you take him? 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:21.680 Kind of danced around. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.080 Yeah, they're both gonna be good players. But and I asked, 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:28.279 did you ask him? Terrell really over me? But the 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.119 man's got the bag. So all's well ended well for Diggs. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.279 So I'm with you. This was a this is a 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.720 must have going into into you know, because of the 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.960 second round, four year contract versus five. You didn't want 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:41.760 to throw a tag. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:42.159 On the player. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.080 You didn't, you couldn't, and he didn't want to play 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.680 this year anyway, you want to risk it out there. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.240 So I thought that I thought this was a good contract. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.960 I thought when when you know top averaged, you know 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.040 top five, and you're not set in the market here, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.719 I thought there was a win for them. Let's get 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:01.599 into Zach Martin. Okay, Cowboys future Hall of Fame guard. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.840 We can say that with confidence. You look at him 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:04.240 as an. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.200 All decade player, the numerous Pro Bowls. When you go 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.720 down the list of people at their jobs and what 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.279 they do, Zach Martin, if you want to tell me 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.599 somebody's better go ahead. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.400 But he's not a can't see it. He's not a 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:19.800 camp and he's not happy. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.320 One of the things that I've said to people, Jerry 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.320 took care of him in his last contract, made him 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.280 the highest paid guard the game. So he was good 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:33.000 fourteen mil. Okay, but the TV contractor has been resigned. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.360 The markets are going up, and so top guard Quentin 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.760 Nelson over the Colts former Notre Dame player like Zach Martin. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:41.960 Twenty million. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:48.520 Pizza gap, right right, that's that's a gap, that's a 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:49.280 healthy gap. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.200 So he's not a camp. The Cowboys, I thought, did 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.640 the smart thing. We're not addressing it. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.159 Never'll talk about go talk about it, because what can 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:57.560 you say. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.760 There's really nothing. You don't want anything. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:06.280 Here's a player that you love. Okay, clearly everybody loves it. Yes, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.240 you look at it. Now he's under paid, but this 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.000 is what happened. What's what's what's Mahomes now underpaid by 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.120 see Justin Herbert get paid Caliber, get paid. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.040 You Patrick Mahomes. I'm better than him. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.840 So this is this is what the markets do. So heck, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.120 how do you how do you fix this? 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.520 You know, I know it's it's It shocked me when 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.080 I got the news, first of all, because I think 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.760 we already had Trayvon Days, we had CD Lamb, We're 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.040 even talking about Micah. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:34.840 You know what we're gonna do with him. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.080 The last person that I was thinking that would be 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.720 saying it's my time, my turn is Zach Martin. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.680 And you know, it's really strange. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.520 Because the Cowboys organization has paid him early and often 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.840 it seems like they've never been had a misstep with him, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.440 and Zach Martin, to me, is a made man around here, 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.000 and people won't talk about them dead players that you 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.520 just say, hey, these are made men. Jason Witten one 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.000 of those guys are made man. Zach Martin the best 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.760 at what he does, made man and the market even 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.880 though it's gotten away from the Cowboys, from Quentin Nelson 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.320 to his contract when he signed, like you said, I 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.000 knew he was the highest paid guard in the league. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.200 But right now this is I don't want to call 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.200 it strong arming, but he's working his leverage to a 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.200 way that I don't think that the Dallas Cowboys anticipated 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.440 him doing it. 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:22.360 Could have could it. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.840 Have been worked out a little bit more quieter because 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.840 who do we need more than anybody on that offensive line. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.640 I mean, come on that, Mark. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.559 I'm not in a position, No one is in a 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.800 position to act like we don't need this guy. This 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.880 guy ties tern steel and to be hodish and the 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.240 synergy and the way that this whole offensive line works. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.840 So look, I'm working. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.960 I'm hoping that this is one of those contracts that 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.320 they can get done quietly without it seemed like, hey, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:56.040 he's strong armed, you let him right now, right now. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.240 They in that situation because he is the guy. You 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.960 absolutely need him. You can't talk about his age, you 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.720 can't talk about his injuries. There's no knock on this 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.720 guy because he has been the best at his position 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.760 for a very long time. And when he comes knocking you, hey, 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.719 you gotta respect it. Even though they don't want to 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.000 talk about it. You gotta respect because. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.880 There's there's and this is my opinion, you don't talk 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:22.400 about it because there's nothing you can say. It's gonna 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.000 come out good. I mean, yes, he deserves to get paid. Now, Okay, 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.760 see you said it. Now you know well, yo, you 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:31.679 kind of contract, you better sign it. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.920 You better on. There's nothing to say other than to 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:34.679 me the best thing to. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.559 Say, talk about it, and that's true. But at the 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.520 end of the day, they gotta pay this man. I mean, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.600 they got to pay this man. He is the best 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.000 offensive lineman, not only on a Dallas Cowboys team, but 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.600 maybe in the entire NFL. We know he's the best guard, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.280 but his position flex out there. We've seen this offensive 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.120 line do musical chairs throughout the years. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.800 They tackle play tackle. Guy can get play. He probably 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:55.840 plays center if he wants to. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.240 So, like you said, Knui, I mean he ties everybody 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.200 together on that offensive line, an aging offensive line with 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.640 some young pieces. They need that guy in there, and 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.320 they got to pay him a sap because. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:08.319 We don't want this thing to stretch out. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:09.800 You know what if it goes in the week one 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.400 and you know we got gotta put ball over there. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:18.599 At the guard. These are all possibilities, you know what 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.880 I'm saying. You know, we really can't have that back 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.720 there running for his life. So you gotta pay this man, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.800 and you gotta be as so as a player, how 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.440 do you inform the team? Oh that that's that's for 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.679 me personally. I'm agent. You gotta handle that because. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.640 You know he's one of the he's the leader of 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.480 somebody to make the we got to make the coole 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.800 in there. And do you call the coach. I mean 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.400 this McCarthy cay called him up, like, hey, you know, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.200 that's what's going on here. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.520 And I'm sure you know macarthy's talked to you know, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:48.680 Dak and other leaders of this. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.120 Team, you know, reach out to Zach. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.440 You don't see what we can get him in here, 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.120 just to you know, he doesn't have to practice, but 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.199 he can just be around the team. And I'm sure 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.480 they reached out to him. But hey, the man, the 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:58.400 man's playing the leverage. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.480 Like you said, he's in a smart movie. It's a 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.520 smart move, and I completely understand it. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:03.600 From a players standpoint. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 They have to be more aggressive about the way that 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.200 they get their deals done and the CBA all of 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.200 these things that we've seen be narrated through the media 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.280 on how guys are. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:13.920 Not getting paid. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.000 Zach Martin is not gonna be six million dollars paid 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.200 less than a guy that's not even in his caliber. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.280 He's the best interior lineman in the league. You have 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.720 to pay him like that. And so that's I mean, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:26.800 that's just just okay. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.880 So, so here's one thing that I have I had 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.520 discussions with people about. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.360 You know, I'm you know, me and your boy till. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.360 I'm gonna get this story. I'm gonna get this. I'm 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.280 gonna get the story. Go back to go back to 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.840 his time in Philadelphia. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.520 After year one, like that's not it got track, not good. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.920 I've out performed the contract, lit up, lit up And 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.719 normally when players ask for my money, they get lit up. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:02.720 Zack Martin is not being lit up. People are understanding. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.000 And it goes back to the line I always say 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.160 when I was doing sports radio, it's interesting on who 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.880 we choose to condemn and who we choose to forgive 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.240 who we provide forgiveness to. This is true because at 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:16.760 the end of the. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:22.959 Day, it is sign a contract. The team did make 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:23.960 him the number one guy. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:28.520 Heckma one thing we know, whatever you signed today is 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.959 going to change because of the way the cap keeps 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.600 growing everything else. So you're you know, it's almost like 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.040 trying to time it. Well, you can't really time it right. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.080 So but as the team go, how are you supposed 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:42.720 to address this? 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:43.559 And then. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.120 Across the league, if you're Patrick Mahomes, you should be 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.439 in there too. I mean, there's certain players in this 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.079 leaving that Hey, you the best at what you do 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.240 and your spot at Mark's the best of this spot, 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.040 Patrick Mahoons's best spot. No, you counsel, you go, hey, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.960 we just wanted the super Bowl here you got ridtired. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.959 I mean you literally can have a line. There's certain 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.360 you could have six seven guys in his league lining 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.480 up saying you know, yo, wet my beak. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.480 Yeah, those guys, I mean they're making a sacrifice. Don't 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.240 get me Mahomes. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.280 And his type. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.840 They're making a sacrifice by not going back to the 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.559 well and saying, hey, pay me what these other guys 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:19.319 are getting paid. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:20.480 That tight end is just. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.840 As important as any player in the league and what 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.720 he does production wise, I'm saying when it comes to 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.640 Zach Martin, and I think it's really the dynamic between 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.760 the guys that get literally drug through the mud in 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.160 the media and the guys that don't. To me, Zach 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.680 Martin is the most consistent interior lineman to play in 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.800 the NFL in a very long time. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.880 It's a generational talent holding calls. But I mean these 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.760 are premia numbers are off the charts. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.240 When you there's no narrative that you could write about 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.120 this guy other than he's really good. And if you 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.160 look at the greatest players of all time, and I'm 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.600 not calling them Michael Jordan or anything like that, but 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:59.120 drastically underpaid. But in this market, he has to get 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.000 everything that he can. At thirty two years old, he's 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.719 not going to allow for twelve million dollars to go 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.040 through his hands, in his family's hands without getting paid that. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.280 I mean, Look, if you ever taken the finance class, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.560 money in the hand is better than money tomorrow. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:14.839 You had to get to me right now. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.920 I've taken taken more than a few of the financially 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.440 called president value versus fellow he need fv Okay. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:23.520 So I totally understand it. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.680 But once again, it's the perception in how players freed 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.920 it and how we go by it. I remember when 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.280 people were having a connection about Dak Prescott, make it 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.880 forty million, ah, forty million, I weren't doing that worth 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.920 it now? I mean, this man, but this man depended right, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.560 this man is so far down Kyler Murray out here 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.760 playing Xbox make it make it six million more than that, 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:45.800 I mean. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.560 And imagine that and BC guy just got paid. I mean, 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.200 come on, and he hadn't even won a playoff game 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.760 and nobody's dragging him. 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.160 It's it's it's interesting when you talk about that. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.240 Yes, justin Herbert of the charges made and it's been 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.560 like good for him, good for him. And I was 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.160 watching that that Charger Jacksonville game at the gym this week, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.360 just watching that fourth quarter meltdown. But I'll say this, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:17.640 I will say that, but but I just I just 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.720 can chinue there are go. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.360 I said, who we choose to condemn and who we choose? 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.120 So so Dak is on that lit I hadn't done this, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.320 prove it that, Just Herbert, come on, get your back. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.000 And guess and guess what. You gotta get Dak done 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.080 again here pretty soon. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.400 And and that's that. That's the team's fault. We'll talk 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.480 about that because you go back. I mean I will, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.720 I will never forget this one being an OX star 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:47.200 and we're asking the questions after WinCE and Golf got 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.000 that money. Do you know Golf is still on that 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.840 money he signed with the Rams, He's still this is 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:53.680 last year on it. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.760 That's how outrageous that contract was at the time. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.520 But they could have had they could have had dak 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:00.800 Here'll make it thirty. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.160 That's true twenty eight. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.880 At one point I thought was the going raid for 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.600 where he was, and they waited and ended up having 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.560 to be forty million dollars. But I think look front 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.120 office wise, and just going back to going to a 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.160 player like Tony Pollard and where he was last season 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.080 to where he is under the attack. I don't think 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.160 Tony Pollard is is upset about being tagged. No, I 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:26.280 think he's I mean, some of it works out though. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.400 Well Stephen right, I meant Stephen Jones said somebody thought 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:31.720 was kind of right where he says, Look, we offered 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.680 him as long term extension. Tony didn't want it. Now 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.840 we don't know the numbers of it. But I go 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.760 back to last year Schultz was offered long term extentsion. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:47.360 He said, no, he's in Houston, shout, don't commitment. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.880 Just went out here, oh Coke committment. I got he 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.000 making twelve and a half. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:51.200 Now. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.600 I mean so at some point in time, you really 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.320 do need to ask yourself, hey, man, are these dollars 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:58.000 I'm taking? 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.320 Should I take a long term deal? In Church? You 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.440 played here, you're. 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.399 In Texas free right by yourself, a nice home tax. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.120 Really you like it here? It's the cowboy, I mean, 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.320 big city, all sports teams, I mean got right. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.000 So so I don't know exactly what Schultz turned down 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:17.240 with you. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:18.040 Living in Houston. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.840 Now, yeah, that's an example of bedding on yourself and 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:21.320 not winning. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.199 Man, do you have a collachure agent? How does that? 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.720 How does that work? After you know it might have 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.400 been I mean no, I don't want that. I don't 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:30.880 even know. No, I want that. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.400 Long term deal and endured and two young cats came 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.800 in and kind of yeah, tight end room had been 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.880 the same since so I kind of brought that on itself. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.560 Yeah, so this is so so Tony Pollard is apparently 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.879 they offered a deal. He didn't want the deals go 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.960 play out the ten million dollars. Here's the one thing 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.040 we know the way this is going. Tony's not going 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.160 to get ten million dollars next year. No, no, no, no, 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.840 not get to tech. So so just like don't Show's 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.600 got paid ten point one million dollars. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.840 You think about don'd show's got paid more, running back don'd 0:17:58.880 --> 0:17:59.800 Show's got paid more? 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.680 Then then the franchise tad for running back last year 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.959 as they tied end. But he's not getting sick. He's 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.440 not getting ten million dollars this year. So once again 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.639