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Speaker 1: Good air conditions. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, that's number one

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Speaker 5: Everybody I told him before he even got here, dropped

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Speaker 5: the thermostat on there right.

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Speaker 1: I think relying energy got us for you.

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Speaker 4: It's all good, It's all good. We must start with

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Speaker 4: the money, okay. Bottom line is you have to start

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Speaker 4: with the money because this is that time of year

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Speaker 4: where teams are trying to get deals done. The Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: we know, are sitting here with some good players that

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Speaker 4: they've got to talk. We talked about it before. Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 4: CD Lamb, Micah Parsons. You got Treybond Diggs. These are

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Speaker 4: guys who are coming up. They got digs done before

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Speaker 4: the first practice here. So five year, ninety seven million

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Speaker 4: dollar extension. Todd Archer breaks it down at six years,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and four million dollars for.

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Speaker 1: Trey Bond Diggs.

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Speaker 4: Bonus twenty one point three I sheuly said, twenty one

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Speaker 4: point two five million with guarantees. Get up forty two

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Speaker 4: point three million dollars for a corner that folks have

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Speaker 4: been looking for since Dion Sanders left here.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a bunch of people that wanted Byron

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Speaker 1: Jones to get paid.

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Speaker 4: I was one of those that said, you know, I

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Speaker 4: like Byron Jones, but you don't take the ball away.

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Speaker 1: You pay.

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Speaker 4: You pay for people to snatch. Snatch that all the way.

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Speaker 4: That's at a quarterback league. So dig just paid. Let

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Speaker 4: me start with you your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's well deserved. It's well deserved.

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Speaker 6: I think they had to get this done because he's

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Speaker 6: one of the cornerstone pieces of that defense that seems

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Speaker 6: to just be rising as the years go on and

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Speaker 6: if we look at his game, you know, his rookie

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Speaker 6: year gave up a lot of yards. But to me,

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Speaker 6: what stood out the most is he's coachable because then

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Speaker 6: that following year he came back eleven interceptions. Out there,

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Speaker 6: he's taking the football away, just like you said, like

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Speaker 6: the top corners should be able to do. If you

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Speaker 6: can take the football away and create offense on your own,

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Speaker 6: I mean you're gonna be one of the highest paid corners, as.

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Speaker 1: We see with Trayvon Days.

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Speaker 6: And he follows that back up again after the eleven

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Speaker 6: interception year, he became to me the complete corner because

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Speaker 6: he was locked down. I mean he went to get

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Speaker 6: some of the top receivers in the game hit him

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Speaker 6: to one two catches.

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Speaker 1: I think A J.

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Speaker 6: Brownly had one catch down, So I think it's well deserved.

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Speaker 6: He's becoming that complete corner.

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Speaker 1: And with the addition of Stefan gillwhere this could be

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Speaker 1: a dangerous duo.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at look at Treylon from this aspect,

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Speaker 5: he was a second round guy, so he didn't have

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Speaker 5: the fifth round option. That was the thing that really

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Speaker 5: made his deal. I have to do situation for the Cowboys. Now,

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Speaker 5: when you look at where he is. As far as

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Speaker 5: the contract that they signed, they did not reset the market.

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Speaker 5: So that's them to this whole deal is that he

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Speaker 5: didn't want to get paid more than some of those

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Speaker 5: of the things that you have coming down the pipeline,

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Speaker 5: if you're Stephen Jones, he does not want to be

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Speaker 5: known as that guy that kicks the can down the

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Speaker 5: road and always gets guys signed late, like he did

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Speaker 5: with Dak and some other contracts that we've seen, right,

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Speaker 5: But you had to get Trayvon dis done and that

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Speaker 5: deal is done now, and I think it's a it's

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Speaker 5: get some other pressing needs done.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's getting the cap, somebody's.

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Speaker 5: Getting to tag you know they I don't want to

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Speaker 5: hear that, but I think the deal that they made

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Speaker 5: happen when Trayvon they had to and he was in

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Speaker 5: the advance, he had the advantage and he got paid

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Speaker 4: Todd Archer breaks it down here for by the way,

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Speaker 4: Todd Archer of ESPN dot Com breaks down the money.

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Speaker 4: Uh So this year twenty twenty three, one million dollars

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Speaker 4: nine million, twenty twenty six fourteen point five million dollars,

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Speaker 1: So he's got an active roster bonuses.

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Speaker 4: Totally one million dollars from year twenty four through twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty eight, and he can make an additional six hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars per year through escalators. Escalators each year, five

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Speaker 4: interceptions plus the playoffs is three hundred thousand dollars. Seven

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Speaker 4: interceptions plus the playoffs six hundred thousand doables. So these

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Speaker 4: are these are doable things there. And one more thing

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Speaker 4: we talked about with Diggs while he had that rough

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Speaker 4: first year. That was with Mike Nolan. Nobody on dealbo.

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Speaker 4: You're bringing dan Quinn and and and and there you know,

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Speaker 4: there you go. So the interesting thing about that go

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Speaker 4: back to cd Am getting drafted. The Falcons had to

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Speaker 4: pick before Dallas when dan Quinn was there. They took

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Speaker 4: corner A J. Terrell and you and I were talking.

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Speaker 4: We we both said we wanted a corner in the

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Speaker 4: first round, and we said Diggs Yep, doesn't happen. They

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Speaker 4: get him in the second round. So here dan Quinn

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Speaker 4: getting the coaching. And I asked dan Quinn two years ago,

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Speaker 4: I was like, why did you take him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're both gonna be good players. But and I asked,

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Speaker 4: did you ask him? Terrell really over me? But the

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Speaker 4: man's got the bag. So all's well ended well for Diggs.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you. This was a this is a

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Speaker 4: must have going into into you know, because of the

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Speaker 4: second round, four year contract versus five. You didn't want

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Speaker 4: to throw a tag.

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Speaker 1: On the player.

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Speaker 4: You didn't, you couldn't, and he didn't want to play

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Speaker 4: this year anyway, you want to risk it out there.

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Speaker 4: So I thought that I thought this was a good contract.

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Speaker 4: I thought when when you know top averaged, you know

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Speaker 4: I thought there was a win for them. Let's get

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Speaker 4: into Zach Martin. Okay, Cowboys future Hall of Fame guard.

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Speaker 1: We can say that with confidence. You look at him

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Speaker 4: All decade player, the numerous Pro Bowls. When you go

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Speaker 4: down the list of people at their jobs and what

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Speaker 4: they do, Zach Martin, if you want to tell me

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Speaker 4: somebody's better go ahead.

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Speaker 1: But he's not a can't see it. He's not a

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I've said to people, Jerry

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Speaker 4: took care of him in his last contract, made him

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Speaker 4: the highest paid guard the game. So he was good

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Speaker 4: fourteen mil. Okay, but the TV contractor has been resigned.

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Speaker 4: The markets are going up, and so top guard Quentin

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Speaker 4: Nelson over the Colts former Notre Dame player like Zach Martin.

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Speaker 1: Twenty million.

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Speaker 6: Pizza gap, right right, that's that's a gap, that's a

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Speaker 6: healthy gap.

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Speaker 1: So he's not a camp. The Cowboys, I thought, did

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Speaker 1: the smart thing. We're not addressing it.

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Speaker 4: Never'll talk about go talk about it, because what can

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Speaker 4: you say.

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Speaker 1: There's really nothing. You don't want anything.

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Speaker 4: Here's a player that you love. Okay, clearly everybody loves it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: you look at it. Now he's under paid, but this

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Speaker 4: is what happened. What's what's what's Mahomes now underpaid by

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Speaker 4: see Justin Herbert get paid Caliber, get paid.

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Speaker 1: You Patrick Mahomes. I'm better than him.

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Speaker 4: So this is this is what the markets do. So heck,

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Speaker 4: how do you how do you fix this?

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Speaker 5: You know, I know it's it's It shocked me when

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Speaker 5: I got the news, first of all, because I think

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Speaker 5: we already had Trayvon Days, we had CD Lamb, We're

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Speaker 5: even talking about Micah.

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Speaker 1: You know what we're gonna do with him.

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Speaker 5: The last person that I was thinking that would be

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Speaker 5: saying it's my time, my turn is Zach Martin.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's really strange.

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Speaker 5: Because the Cowboys organization has paid him early and often

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Speaker 5: it seems like they've never been had a misstep with him,

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Speaker 5: and Zach Martin, to me, is a made man around here,

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Speaker 5: and people won't talk about them dead players that you

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Speaker 5: just say, hey, these are made men. Jason Witten one

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Speaker 5: of those guys are made man. Zach Martin the best

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Speaker 5: at what he does, made man and the market even

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Speaker 5: though it's gotten away from the Cowboys, from Quentin Nelson

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Speaker 5: to his contract when he signed, like you said, I

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Speaker 5: knew he was the highest paid guard in the league.

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Speaker 5: But right now this is I don't want to call

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Speaker 5: it strong arming, but he's working his leverage to a

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Speaker 5: way that I don't think that the Dallas Cowboys anticipated

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Speaker 5: him doing it.

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Speaker 1: Could have could it.

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Speaker 5: Have been worked out a little bit more quieter because

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Speaker 5: who do we need more than anybody on that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on that, Mark.

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Speaker 5: I'm not in a position, No one is in a

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Speaker 5: position to act like we don't need this guy. This

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Speaker 5: guy ties tern steel and to be hodish and the

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Speaker 5: synergy and the way that this whole offensive line works.

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Speaker 1: So look, I'm working.

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping that this is one of those contracts that

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Speaker 5: they can get done quietly without it seemed like, hey,

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Speaker 5: he's strong armed, you let him right now, right now.

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Speaker 5: They in that situation because he is the guy. You

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Speaker 5: absolutely need him. You can't talk about his age, you

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Speaker 5: can't talk about his injuries. There's no knock on this

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Speaker 5: guy because he has been the best at his position

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Speaker 5: for a very long time. And when he comes knocking you, hey,

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Speaker 5: you gotta respect it. Even though they don't want to

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Speaker 5: talk about it. You gotta respect because.

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Speaker 4: There's there's and this is my opinion, you don't talk

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Speaker 4: about it because there's nothing you can say. It's gonna

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Speaker 4: come out good. I mean, yes, he deserves to get paid. Now, Okay,

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Speaker 4: see you said it. Now you know well, yo, you

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Speaker 4: kind of contract, you better sign it.

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Speaker 1: You better on. There's nothing to say other than to

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Speaker 1: me the best thing to.

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Speaker 6: Say, talk about it, and that's true. But at the

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Speaker 6: end of the day, they gotta pay this man. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they got to pay this man. He is the best

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Speaker 6: offensive lineman, not only on a Dallas Cowboys team, but

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Speaker 6: maybe in the entire NFL. We know he's the best guard,

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Speaker 6: but his position flex out there. We've seen this offensive

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Speaker 6: line do musical chairs throughout the years.

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Speaker 1: They tackle play tackle. Guy can get play. He probably

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Speaker 1: plays center if he wants to.

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Speaker 6: So, like you said, Knui, I mean he ties everybody

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Speaker 6: together on that offensive line, an aging offensive line with

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Speaker 6: some young pieces. They need that guy in there, and

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Speaker 6: they got to pay him a sap because.

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Speaker 1: We don't want this thing to stretch out.

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Speaker 1: At the guard. These are all possibilities, you know what

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Speaker 4: You know he's one of the he's the leader of

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Speaker 6: And I'm sure you know macarthy's talked to you know,

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Speaker 6: You don't see what we can get him in here,

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Speaker 5: Like you said, he's in a smart movie. It's a

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Speaker 5: Zach Martin is not gonna be six million dollars paid

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Speaker 5: He's the best interior lineman in the league. You have

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Speaker 4: So, so here's one thing that I have I had

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know, me and your boy till.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get this story. I'm gonna get this. I'm

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Speaker 1: After year one, like that's not it got track, not good.

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Speaker 4: I've out performed the contract, lit up, lit up And

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Speaker 4: Zack Martin is not being lit up. People are understanding.

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Speaker 4: And it goes back to the line I always say

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Speaker 4: we choose to condemn and who we choose to forgive

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Speaker 1: Day, it is sign a contract. The team did make

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Speaker 4: Heckma one thing we know, whatever you signed today is

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Speaker 4: trying to time it. Well, you can't really time it right.

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Speaker 4: So but as the team go, how are you supposed

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Speaker 4: Across the league, if you're Patrick Mahomes, you should be

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Speaker 4: leaving that Hey, you the best at what you do

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahoons's best spot. No, you counsel, you go, hey,

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Speaker 4: we just wanted the super Bowl here you got ridtired.

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Speaker 4: I mean you literally can have a line. There's certain

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Speaker 5: Yeah, those guys, I mean they're making a sacrifice. Don't

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Speaker 5: get me Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: And his type.

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Speaker 5: They're making a sacrifice by not going back to the

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Speaker 5: well and saying, hey, pay me what these other guys

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Speaker 1: That tight end is just.

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Speaker 5: As important as any player in the league and what

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Speaker 5: he does production wise, I'm saying when it comes to

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Speaker 5: the media and the guys that don't. To me, Zach

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Speaker 5: Martin is the most consistent interior lineman to play in

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Speaker 1: It's a generational talent holding calls. But I mean these

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Speaker 1: are premia numbers are off the charts.

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Speaker 5: When you there's no narrative that you could write about

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Speaker 5: this guy other than he's really good. And if you

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Speaker 5: look at the greatest players of all time, and I'm

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Speaker 5: not calling them Michael Jordan or anything like that, but

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Speaker 5: drastically underpaid. But in this market, he has to get

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Speaker 5: everything that he can. At thirty two years old, he's

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Speaker 5: not going to allow for twelve million dollars to go

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Speaker 5: through his hands, in his family's hands without getting paid that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Look, if you ever taken the finance class,

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Speaker 5: money in the hand is better than money tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You had to get to me right now.

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Speaker 4: I've taken taken more than a few of the financially

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Speaker 4: called president value versus fellow he need fv Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I totally understand it.

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Speaker 4: But once again, it's the perception in how players freed

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Speaker 4: it and how we go by it. I remember when

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Speaker 4: people were having a connection about Dak Prescott, make it

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Speaker 4: forty million, ah, forty million, I weren't doing that worth

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Speaker 4: it now? I mean, this man, but this man depended right,

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Speaker 4: this man is so far down Kyler Murray out here

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Speaker 4: playing Xbox make it make it six million more than that,

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Speaker 5: And imagine that and BC guy just got paid. I mean,

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Speaker 5: come on, and he hadn't even won a playoff game

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Speaker 5: and nobody's dragging him.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's interesting when you talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, justin Herbert of the charges made and it's been

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Speaker 4: like good for him, good for him. And I was

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Speaker 4: watching that that Charger Jacksonville game at the gym this week,

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Speaker 4: I will say that, but but I just I just

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Speaker 1: I said, who we choose to condemn and who we choose?

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Speaker 4: So so Dak is on that lit I hadn't done this,

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Speaker 4: prove it that, Just Herbert, come on, get your back.

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Speaker 5: And guess and guess what. You gotta get Dak done

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Speaker 5: again here pretty soon.

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Speaker 4: And and that's that. That's the team's fault. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: about that because you go back. I mean I will,

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Speaker 4: I will never forget this one being an OX star

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Speaker 4: and we're asking the questions after WinCE and Golf got

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Speaker 4: that money. Do you know Golf is still on that

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Speaker 4: money he signed with the Rams, He's still this is

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Speaker 4: last year on it.

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Speaker 5: That's how outrageous that contract was at the time.

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Speaker 4: But they could have had they could have had dak

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Speaker 4: Here'll make it thirty.

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Speaker 1: That's true twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: At one point I thought was the going raid for

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Speaker 5: where he was, and they waited and ended up having

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Speaker 5: to be forty million dollars. But I think look front

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Speaker 5: office wise, and just going back to going to a

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Speaker 5: player like Tony Pollard and where he was last season

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Speaker 5: Tony Pollard is is upset about being tagged. No, I

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Speaker 5: think he's I mean, some of it works out though.

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Speaker 4: Well Stephen right, I meant Stephen Jones said somebody thought

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Speaker 4: was kind of right where he says, Look, we offered

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Speaker 4: him as long term extension. Tony didn't want it. Now

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Speaker 4: we don't know the numbers of it. But I go

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Speaker 4: back to last year Schultz was offered long term extentsion.

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Speaker 4: He said, no, he's in Houston, shout, don't commitment.

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Speaker 1: Just went out here, oh Coke committment. I got he

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: I mean so at some point in time, you really

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Speaker 4: I'm taking?

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Speaker 1: Should I take a long term deal? In Church? You

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Speaker 1: played here, you're.

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Speaker 4: In Texas free right by yourself, a nice home tax.

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Speaker 1: Really you like it here? It's the cowboy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: big city, all sports teams, I mean got right.

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Speaker 4: So so I don't know exactly what Schultz turned down

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 1: Living in Houston.

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, that's an example of bedding on yourself and

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Speaker 1: Man, do you have a collachure agent? How does that?

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Speaker 1: How does that work? After you know it might have

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Speaker 1: been I mean no, I don't want that. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know. No, I want that.

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Speaker 6: Long term deal and endured and two young cats came

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is so so Tony Pollard is apparently

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Speaker 4: they offered a deal. He didn't want the deals go

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Speaker 4: play out the ten million dollars. Here's the one thing

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Speaker 4: we know the way this is going. Tony's not going

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Speaker 4: to get ten million dollars next year. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: not get to tech. So so just like don't Show's

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Speaker 4: got paid ten point one million dollars.

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Speaker 1: You think about don'd show's got paid more, running back don'd

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Speaker 1: Show's got paid more?

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Speaker 4: Then then the franchise tad for running back last year

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Speaker 4: as they tied end. But he's not getting sick. He's

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Speaker 4: the finance class in might me need to be taught

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Speaker 4: nfl P. A guy's got that.

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Speaker 5: Everybody get in the right way.

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Speaker 1: And that he be present value f the future value

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Speaker 5: Is then what Laby and Bill was apologizing. If I

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Speaker 5: mean that is that is the classes example.

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Speaker 4: And guys, I shouldn't know that at twelve, I should

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Speaker 6: But if you're a running back position and you guys

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Speaker 6: you know the very.

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Speaker 1: Next day is that you know what to be signed?

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Speaker 4: He I mean, first off, at least wait a couple

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Speaker 4: of flex.

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Speaker 5: The writings, the writing is on the wall for the position.

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Speaker 5: And he come on, man, he saw what everybody else sees.

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Speaker 5: But to get that money, you get that money. Okay,

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Speaker 5: here's the thing I would have done.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the money's gonna be because they clearly they know

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Speaker 4: they need it. So it was like they will tear

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Speaker 4: up the offer you don't get your ten. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have been at camp. I'd have found LT went on

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Speaker 4: the place with golf of LT. Remember that time when

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Speaker 4: LT held out and this show until the first game

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Speaker 4: had like two seconds everything in LT.

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Speaker 1: So I would have held out.

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Speaker 4: I would have gone to the Bahamas and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: But this man folded the cars and he reported the

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least take a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of weeks off camp on a rookie. A rookie is

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Speaker 5: These guys see the writing on the wall. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the running back position has been devalued. But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 5: for for Tony Pollard when he knew he was getting

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Speaker 5: Well he's everything else is gonna be in the what.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you saw he just went he just

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Speaker 1: went ahead signed.

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Speaker 4: Jacobs didn't sign it, and neither it's Saquon because they're like.

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Speaker 1: No, no, and so here it is you have.

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Speaker 4: This big you know, this big power. Wow, you'll fight

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Speaker 4: the power. You know we are playing public and music.

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Speaker 4: You know we all a been welcome to the terra doo.

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna take it.

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Speaker 5: You know how the revolution end right bills. You gotta

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Speaker 5: get that money doing What are you talking about? Am

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Speaker 5: I calling up saying hey, hey, you.

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Speaker 4: Know like like to do with the golfing the golf

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Speaker 4: and live it's bad.

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Speaker 1: You know you don't have to be apologized playing right.

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Speaker 1: We got a merger. Uh, I got a merger something

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Speaker 1: like that. Man, just like you did. He call everybody else?

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Speaker 1: Why take Yeah, I'm folding I got I mean that

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Speaker 1: was that was to me. That was just hilarious.

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Speaker 6: Why not sign it? And then as the season comes along,

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Speaker 6: I can't go this week.

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Speaker 1: I got a hamstring. I can't go the very next week.

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Speaker 1: My back hurts a little bit. I'm not signed to

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Speaker 1: get the money because you know they can find your son,

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Speaker 1: your you got to miss him. You got a miss

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Speaker 1: to show you serious.

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Speaker 5: Man say, looked at the terrain, he saw he looked

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Speaker 5: out on the plane and he saw what was coming.

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Speaker 5: He said, like, you can still sit at home for

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Speaker 5: two months and you know I.

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Speaker 1: Would hold on BC. You would have did what I mean,

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Speaker 1: I ain't showing up.

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Speaker 4: Till August a preseason game of summer.

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Speaker 1: Ain't finding you? Right, not finding you. You're gonna get them.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get the money, pulling the offer because they

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Speaker 1: need you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, okay, what would that have accomplished? He

479
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Speaker 5: would have missed two weeks of camp and he still

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Speaker 5: would have got.

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Speaker 1: The same deal. It's fine, but you at least made

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Speaker 1: a statement.

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Speaker 5: I guess that's that nineteen years of marriage coming in.

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Speaker 5: So you know what, it's a losing battle. So you know,

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Speaker 5: you know you'll play. You know I got oh so

486
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Speaker 5: it's like you ain't taking it?

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Speaker 1: Huh might? I mean they got this man on anything,

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Speaker 1: you know, I might. I might have to hold out.

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Speaker 1: I might do it. I have to do it, petty.

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Speaker 4: And it was like that, like they sat it pins Amen,

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Speaker 4: it's five million.

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Speaker 1: Well we're gonna what did they give it? What they

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Speaker 1: pars too? He got to hit them, man, Okay, they

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Speaker 1: can do franchise. Come on, man, you did all that,

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Speaker 1: and that means he was gonna do that anyway. Here's

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Speaker 1: his agent. Yeah, I got you axtred and nine thousand.

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Speaker 4: Right there, you got yours in New York taxis no

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Speaker 4: less so oh my gosh, yeah, who hate to see it?

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Speaker 1: Hate? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man should have been tight end bro, tight end man.

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Speaker 4: As I'm being how's this effect down the high school level?

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Speaker 4: You start seeing runn backs and get paid.

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Speaker 5: Woo hey, the running back line just got shorter and shorter. Boy,

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Speaker 5: Nobody signing up for that. Don't matter how many stars

506
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Speaker 5: you give out, Nobody, you're.

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Speaker 4: Going to the tight end room. Man, You going to

508
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Speaker 4: going into the defensive end room. I mean you know

509
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Speaker 4: you're gonna do that because it's that. That's what the

510
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Speaker 4: payda's are getting here. I mean, Ezekiel Elliott, he doesn't

511
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Speaker 4: have a deal. I mean you shitting run Like, wow,

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Speaker 4: we're sitting here watching good running backs.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jacobs led the league in rushing.

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Speaker 4: Zekus led there, yes, acting like he got offers.

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Speaker 1: He ain't got no you know what, no offer you want?

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna get ten million, that's for sure, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean Davis is not there.

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Speaker 4: I mean like, okay, you keep telephone mulleying no, you're

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Speaker 4: not like with d Hot was like yeah, I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at this stuff.

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Speaker 1: No you're not. No, No, he's waiting on Tennessee to call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's better. Yeah, he's all these requirements you had in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and now you gonna go to sign Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Got you, got you?

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Speaker 4: All right, Let's take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy is calling the plays this year. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: All right, there, all right, give us some good details.

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Speaker 1: I fly to Santa Barbara, he goes, that's what we

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Speaker 1: go here to Santa Barbara. Don't go to everybody go

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Speaker 1: to LAXX Santa Barbara.

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Speaker 7: First.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Santa Barbara beautiful airport. Yeah, it's it's a beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It's a Santa Barbara type airport. But it's a quicker drive.

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Speaker 1: It's only what thirty minutes from it's about forty minutes.

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Speaker 1: But but but just it's the drive. Got a little spot,

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Speaker 4: I got a little fi I got, I got my

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Speaker 4: little I got little spots on the way down to

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Speaker 4: Cowboys camp here. So Mike McCarthy is calling the place

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Speaker 4: this year as the head coach. Kellen Moore now with

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Speaker 4: the Chargers. Something that Jerry Jones said the opening press conference,

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Speaker 4: maybe said, and he said, this isn't about Kellen. This

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Speaker 4: is really about Mike and what Mike can do. Like, well,

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Speaker 4: when you hired Mike, you n what Mike could do.

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Speaker 4: My McCarthy call plays on a teen to one super

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Speaker 4: Bowl in your building. I never thought Mike McCarthy wanted

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Speaker 4: Kellen Moore. I always thought Mike McCarthy just okay, they

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Speaker 4: like him, So I said, yeah, I'd hire him, even

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Speaker 4: though I don't know him.

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Speaker 1: You're buying it. I'm nervous.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure about y'all, but I'm a little nervous

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Speaker 6: about this about McCarthy going in here calling these plays

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Speaker 6: for the office. I mean, he has a super Bowl

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Speaker 6: winning coordinator, or he was the head coach and he

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Speaker 6: called the play, so I'll give him the coordinator title

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 1: He was a super Bowl winner, but that was what

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Speaker 1: thirteen years ago?

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Speaker 6: Thirteen years ago, and he had a guy by the

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Speaker 6: name of Aaron Rodgers at the quarterback position as well.

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Speaker 1: Now, Dak Prescott, I'm not saying he's that far beneath

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but I'm.

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Speaker 6: Not saying he's in the same category as an Aaron

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Speaker 6: Rodgers as well. And for a guy that hasn't called

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Speaker 6: plays in five plus years, he's coming in here saying

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Speaker 6: we're gonna run the football. We're getting back to the trenches,

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Speaker 6: We're getting to this ground game. We're gonna get back

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Speaker 6: to that.

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Speaker 1: But what has he done to prove that the action

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Speaker 1: speak louder than.

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Speaker 4: The world he so, heck, can we go back into

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Speaker 4: this whole we're gonna run the football thing? I never

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Speaker 4: took Mike McCarthy to say it he's about to become

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Speaker 4: Marty shotten him and Marty ball it will ground and pounded.

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Speaker 4: I took it as him with Kellen Moore saying, but

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Speaker 4: we need to run the football more in certain situations.

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Speaker 4: I go back to the Jacksonville game and the Green

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Speaker 4: Bay game when I was at you have fourteen point leads.

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Speaker 4: You look it up there he got forty eight second

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Speaker 4: drive because you went three and out and you're throwing

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Speaker 4: the whole time. I took it and saying we need

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Speaker 4: to run the ball more in situations to save our defense.

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Speaker 1: That's how I took it. What about you?

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Speaker 5: Heck, I just I want to go back to your

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Speaker 5: original question because I no longer dissect whether Mike MacArthur

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Speaker 5: won it, Kellamore or not, because that's too deep.

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Speaker 1: They can try and figure out the truth. Throng, right.

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Speaker 5: But I think that when you look at this offense

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Speaker 5: and you look at the production has the numbers that

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Speaker 5: it had last season, you say, what was wrong? They

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Speaker 5: are number one point scored. That's the whole point of that.

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Speaker 5: He has the whole shell of that. Nothing has changed

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Speaker 5: with the talent that production other than now you don't

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Speaker 5: have Ezekiel Elliott now you think that you're going to

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Speaker 5: have a more explosive offense with Tony Pollard and company.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't worry.

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Speaker 5: About Mike McCarthy simply because you said he is of

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Speaker 5: super Bowl caliber. I think he's had enough opportunity to

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Speaker 5: figure out exactly who and what his offense should be. Look,

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Speaker 5: the only thing I worry about is mistakes as far

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Speaker 5: as clock management things like that, because he's going to

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Speaker 5: be so concerned with other things. But as I've known

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy, I've known him as the guy with the

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Speaker 5: laminated play sheet and the guy that was making those

661
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: making those calls out to his offense, I don't see.

662
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: And the whole assumption that he's going to run the ball,

663
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: I ain't. Come on, Man's that's fodder. That's not going

664
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: to happen. The NFL has changed so much that I

665
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 5: don't think that Mike McCarthy is unaware of that. But

666
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 5: what I do think that he has to do is

667
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 5: to mitigate the mistakes from Dak Prescott, to mitigate the

668
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 5: guesswork by those wide receivers. And we saw it too

669
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: many times. We broke down too much film that saw

670
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: these wide receivers didn't know where they needed to be

671
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: and it came to the point where some thing had

672
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: to be done. They were not just going to stay

673
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 5: the course with Kellen Moore. Still with my dog Camemore, but.

674
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Stay the course. I keep doing that.

675
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: You can't be the number one offense over his time

676
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 6: period as an offensive coordinator.

677
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: And somehow feel like we're gonna get better. Where are

678
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: you getting better at? I guess time management, but we've

679
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: seen a game management.

680
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 6: But we've seen from coach McCarthy that can be that

681
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 6: can be a little bit you know, of a guesswork

682
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 6: when it comes to him as far as game management.

683
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 6: So you're saying that he can become better as far

684
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: as saving the defense and making sure we run the

685
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: ball when needed.

686
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: So situational awareness is that what.

687
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 6: We're saying he could be better at calling the players

688
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 6: balance while than Kellen Moore.

689
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: I go back to Kyle Shanahan.

690
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: That Super Bowl Atlanta, they're up, oh man, Kyle Shanahan

691
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: was out there still trying to be aggressive.

692
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: And not running the football. He's up ten points on

693
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs.

694
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: He stops running football, So you know you got Garmpolo

695
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: missing passes in now Kansas City got the ball back

696
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: through Boom. It's about the situations and while you get

697
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: yourself up the way Shannahan did, go back to Green Bay,

698
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: you're at fourteen, and go back to Jacksonville fourteen, it

699
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: comes the point in time you got to figure, Okay,

700
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: where am I and what do we need to be

701
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: doing to make sure we're taking ourselves where.

702
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: You have to think about the defense now.

703
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: And I say this because I remember many times talking

704
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: to Gary Patterson and TCU and he was coaching over

705
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: the defensive guy and he had these air ray brought in,

706
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: these air ray guys, and he would literally say, I

707
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: have to talk to these guys.

708
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: I need you to run it talking to them things.

709
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what to call, but I want you

710
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: to run it because we got a defense here that

711
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: needs to stay off the field for a little bit.

712
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: And I think, to me, that was what I felt

713
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy was saying. And when he's had the press

714
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: conference at the at the owners meeting, when people blew

715
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: that one up, Oh he's to be slamming Kellen Moore,

716
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: he was a slamming Keller. One of the guy said,

717
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: like fifty million nice things about him, But then he

718
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 4: brought the point, Hey, look, I've been in kellen shoes

719
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: where I'm an offensive coordinator. I'm trying to score. I'm

720
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: trying to run it. I'm trying to you know, I'm

721
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: trying to be that guy. He said, Well, I'm the

722
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: head coach, head coach, you're trying to win championships, and

723
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: you see it differently. It's all about viewpoints. And it's

724
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: not that he's saying Kellen's wrong. Hey, I was once

725
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: a young play caller. You give me the keys now

726
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: were about to about to show you. And he's saying, hey,

727
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: as a as a head coach, you're looking for the

728
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: whole thing.

729
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: You got to look at the bigger viewpoint here everything.

730
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: So Jacksonville, you need to run the ball more, especially

731
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: after we saw they got on your man, Kelvin Joseph.

732
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: You know on.

733
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: TV it was going, it was.

734
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: Going so all right, they got a little momentum and

735
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: you play there, Jacksonville.

736
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: They got going here, that football chance coming.

737
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: They got going green Bay because that Green Bay game,

738
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: they thought they were going to lose all of a sudden,

739
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, it's down to seven.

740
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: That crowd is jumping and going you needed to help them.

741
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: I just go back to the fact that there was

742
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 5: just certain points in the season where the offense just

743
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 5: looked and theft and it didn't matter whether you call

744
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 5: it the rhythm with Dak because he hurt his hand

745
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 5: or you know those things. I just felt like, going

746
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 5: back to the Green Bay game, there was a bad

747
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 5: interception in the end zone where either CD LAMB should

748
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 5: have ran him more flat, he broke it off and

749
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: went over the top of the of the safety and

750
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: consequently there was a turn up. We had many things

751
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: like that happened within the season where guys just looked

752
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 5: like they were out of place. How many times can

753
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: that happen? And you know, Mike McCarthy's walking into that

754
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: meeting room and saying, look, these are the things that

755
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: just cannot happen. San Francisco, San Francisco. I mean, this

756
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: man has a head Demico Ryans has a head coaching

757
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 5: job because of the job that he did on a

758
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: lot of these quote unquote big offensive coordinators.

759
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: And he made Kellen Moore look bad.

760
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: So you say Kellen Moore, And in conversations I've had

761
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: with people, they've questioned the wide receivers coach here, Okay,

762
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: So that's going to be an interesting kind of dynamic.

763
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 4: Is when I go to camp, you know, you talk

764
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 4: to more people, and you talk to you're able to

765
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: get to folks a little bit off camera.

766
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: That's something thing I'll be interested to see.

767
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 6: I mean, it's wild because you know, you say, you know,

768
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 6: Demico Rians may Kellen Moore look bad.

769
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Wide receivers aren't running this way.

770
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 6: What does it come down to at the end of

771
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: the day, execution, execution and decision making.

772
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that ball forced into that that triple coverage? Yeah?

773
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: Was that ball forced the second reception of San Francisco

774
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 6: where two defenders could have picked it off but the

775
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 6: linebacker Fred Warner ended up picking up and take. So

776
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 6: my thing is, I just we can't all just put

777
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 6: this on Kellen Moore saying his offense was just all

778
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: high powering, say the defense.

779
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of the two.

780
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 6: And maybe you guys are writing a new voice in

781
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 6: dark Prescott's ear could alleviate some of those, you know,

782
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 6: decision making opportunities that he gave the defense.

783
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Barry, I mean, it's all it's

784
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: all going to be on that. That's not even playing

785
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 5: games about it. It's gonna be on Dak. And Dak

786
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 5: has to be better.

787
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: He can't play.

788
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: He can't have fifteen interceptions in twelve games. He cannot

789
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 5: afford to have a repeat of that. And he's already

790
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 5: said he's not gonna throw ten.

791
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: So okay, no, he's not saying he's going to have ten.

792
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 4: The quote was, we would not have ten tipped interceptions,

793
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: which is I'm working with the receivers. So we're working

794
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: on making sure your boss, you know that we get

795
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: the thing done because that's a lot of.

796
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: What we saw Jacksonville game, right, So that's what he said.

797
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: He said, I'm not gonna have ten interceptions, not gonna

798
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: have tent to the tipped interceptions.

799
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the tipped interceptions. So that's what they're

800
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: working on it.

801
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 5: But this receiving court, this receiving court has to be

802
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: better for dakus. I mean, they can't go, you know,

803
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 5: to the eighth week of the season before they have

804
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 5: one hundred yard receiver. I mean, nor Brown was the

805
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: most productive guy they had. And again we can go

806
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: back to the Dak injury and all that, but Ceedee

807
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 5: Lamb is going to have to emerge as that playmaker

808
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: in this offense, and he's going to have to get

809
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 5: it going early. He can't wait till you know, the

810
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: week versus Green Bay to get his game.

811
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: Michael Gallup, Okay, Michael Gallup has got to go earn

812
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: his dollars. And that's that's just being straight up and

813
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: not like Michael Gallup, but that's just hey man, you

814
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: got paid.

815
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, time to produce.

816
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: Jaylen Tolbert, he was on one O five three the

817
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: fan talking today and then trying to flush you know,

818
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: last year.

819
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: But Jalen Tolbert, it's a third runner. He's going to

820
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: be here. He's got to produce here. So the receiving

821
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: corps does need to better be better.

822
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: But can we just and this is not hating him,

823
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: it's asking guys to live up to what the organization

824
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: believed in you.

825
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. We told Amari Cooper bye bye, paid you.

826
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Tolbert.

827
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: We used a third round pick Dak Prescott. I told

828
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: him you were the guy. You got to go do

829
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: your job here.

830
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks he stay healthy, clearly he can he can

831
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: be a difference maker. Absolute so so there's some things

832
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: that you look on paper.

833
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: I like this receiving core better than last year's group

834
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: all day long. But there's still some guys that have

835
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: things to prove here and and this is this is

836
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: this is the beauty of what football is. You've got

837
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: another opportunity. Last year's gone here show what you can do.

838
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: But if these guys can play up to the ability

839
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: that the organization thought they had when they acquired them,

840
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: then you're talking about a really good a really good unit.

841
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: But I thought Clarence Hill, the four Star Telegram, had

842
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: a great point last year when the cowboy stepped on

843
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: the field, almost always they had the.

844
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Worst receiving core than the other two. I have to

845
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: that that cannot be the case this year. No, it can't.

846
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: And I really I think the one thing that baffles

847
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 5: me about Ceedee Lamman where he is, even with his

848
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: contract negotiation, when you consider or talk about PFF grades

849
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 5: or what they consider to be the top ten wide

850
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: receivers in the league, his name is never mentioned.

851
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: His name isn't put in that.

852
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: If he is, he's nine and he's ten, right, And

853
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 5: so for him, I think the perception around here is

854
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 5: that he's an elite wide receiver. One hundred and fifty

855
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: seven targets last year one hundred and seven catches.

856
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: That's nothing.

857
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 5: That's productive. Thirteen hundred yard nine studies. I mean, look,

858
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Look, I don't want to get misconscrewed.

859
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is I need Ceedee Lamb to be

860
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: that early. I don't need him to wait till the

861
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: end of the early.

862
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: Your point is fair. Your point is fair.

863
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: Can we also allow a little bit of grace on

864
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: this last year was his first time being the number

865
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: one guy. Little adjustment, you know, a little punch in

866
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 4: the mouth here, a little bit, and well he finally

867
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: figured it out. So what the ratings are, and it's

868
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: like it's like stocks's based off last year's returns. Now

869
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: that he knows what it takes, what you have to do,

870
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: I think Cee Lambill be fine. I'm not worried about

871
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: CD LAB, so I don't worry about their rankings. And

872
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: they want to put Terry McLaurin and guys like that,

873
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: that's fine. I'm not worried about that. Brandon cooks and

874
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: healthy Brandon cooks. On the other side, things get things

875
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 4: can be a lot easier for Ceedee Lamb because you're

876
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: a number one guy with no help over there. You know,

877
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 4: the maybe maybe somebody goes to show up over here.

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Speaker 4: CD and the Maybies, Okay, I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: okay to ship. Let's get back at this on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it on.

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Speaker 4: Friday, very church. Heck Maherrison' we strugs for jazz everybody else.

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Speaker 4: They made this thing happen right here dllas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 4: Com and it has been the players louse, We'll chatting

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Speaker 4: with your Friday right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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