1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing? 2 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast. Hopefully you are doing great, 3 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: And today we will we'll talk some football because it 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: is Super Bowl Week, so it's gonna be a big theme, 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: I would imagine everywhere you turn this week. And today 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: we have on al Guido, who for the last ten 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: years has been the president of the forty nine ers 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: and actually early this morning was now named the CEO 9 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: of not just the forty nine ers but all their 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: business ventures. And you know he runs point with Jed 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: York on landing the Super Bowl for the Bay Area. 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: So talking to him about dealing with Roger, what's that like, 13 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: what it's like being a president now, a CEO of 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: a NFL organization, dealing with the coach, dealing with the GM, 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: as well as some career advice for people that want 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to get into sports. So that will be after we 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: discuss Sean McVeigh, who got extended today. Some thoughts there. 18 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: The NFL is doubling down on international games and they're 19 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: going to Paris next year for the first time, as 20 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: well as the Dad Diaries before we dive into the interview. 21 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: But that will be the extent of the show. Tomorrow 22 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: we will play Stucky and then Thursday we will kind 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: of mix and match whatever we end up doing at 24 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And we're recording from I think the 25 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Madden Studios on Radio Row and a bunch of people 26 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: are supposed to come by, so should be pretty fun. 27 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, don't really have much. So 28 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the Three and 29 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Out podcasts wherever you may listen. If you listen on 30 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe. We have our own feed, 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: And obviously if you want to watch the video of 32 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: any of these podcasts, it's all up on Netflix. Never 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: miss an episode. You can click remind me and it'll 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: be in your algorithm. And I appreciate everyone that's checked 35 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: that out and hopefully you're enjoying it. So yeah, let's 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: just let's talk some football. So let's start with the news. 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of days ago, Quessey gets fired 38 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: in Minnesota and it was pretty clear that him and 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: the head coach were not on the same page. And 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: there are certain relationships in certain industries that have to 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: be pretty strong or else you have no shot. I 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: see this. You know me and my wife raising this child. 43 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Like if you don't have a buttoned up, strong relationship, 44 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: I can test you. This has been as someone that 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: sent me a DM about raising a young child. They 46 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: called it the fog of war, which sounds a little extreme, 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: but I gotta be honest, there's some truth to that. 48 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: And football is no different because the tests of injuries, 49 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: of the inevitable losing season, articles coming out about players, 50 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: about personal relationships, about coaching relationships, the backstabbing, the just 51 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: competitive nature of an industry where there's a lot of 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: money on the line. And I'm not just talking for owners. 53 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about these people which there are only thirty 54 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: two GM jobs and are only thirty two coaches. And 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: we saw clearly Kevin O'Connell wasn't on board with the 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: QUESTI or he'd still be in his job and less 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: need and Sean McVay have had a pretty pretty successful 58 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: partnership and they have now done it multiple different ways. 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: So the news being announced that Sean mcvayh has I 60 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: got to take d L. I have a lot of opinions. 61 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm right on a decent amount of them. I'm also 62 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: get a lot of things wrong. I'm probably less twelve 63 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: months older than Sean McVay. And when he got hired, 64 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was insane. I said, I didn't know 65 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: much about him at the time, but he was the 66 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: youngest coach who's ever been hired in the history of 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: the league by a pretty wide margin. I mean, at 68 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: the time, you're thirty years old. The youngest before was 69 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: thirty four. So I mean, listen, I think for guys, 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: there are huge growth milestones, Like in our twenties, we're 71 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: pretty immature, most of us. I mean, some of us 72 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: are wise beyond our years, but I would say, on 73 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: average most males, maturity in our twenties isn't our strong point. 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: And then I think depending on your lifestyle from thirty 75 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: to thirty five to forty, there's some big growth just 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: areas where you look back it's like, I don't even relate. 77 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't even relate beside like basic treatment of other 78 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: humans and maybe just some ambitious desires to the twenty seven, 79 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine, thirty one year old version of myself. And 80 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: I think when McVeigh was hired, I thought, like, this 81 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: is crazy. How could a guy be able to handle 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: this gig? And I had just been around Andy Reid 83 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: and Pat Hill, and I had seen Jim Harbaugh. I 84 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: was like, I just don't think that's gonna work. I 85 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: was wrong. He has been a superstar. His record as 86 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: the head coach is ninety two and fifty seven. He's 87 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: got ten playoff victories. He's been obviously to multiple super Bowls, 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: won one, just could have easily been to another a 89 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago in that game against Seattle. He's 90 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: a superstar. I mean, he's a rock star, and I 91 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: would imagine this extension. He's easily one of the highest 92 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: paid guys in the league. And you know, I think 93 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: the one thing that's unique about these guys tenure is 94 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: when Sean took over, they had Jared Goff on the roster, who, 95 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: while coming off a horrendous rookie season, he was the 96 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft. And then when that 97 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: situation ran its course, they got pretty lucky. This former 98 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft was like, I want out, 99 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: and the Lions were like, we want out of this business, 100 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: and he was available, and obviously they were able to 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: land them. And there were some quotes that came out 102 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: or maybe it was sources that obviously Sean McVay wants 103 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: Stafford to return, of course he does. What are his 104 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: other options? And one thing that will be very interesting 105 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: is if Stafford, let's say he plays one more season 106 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: and then retires, what are the Rams gonna do? Clearly 107 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: there aren't just that many quarterbacks available, and they're too 108 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: well run and too good, especially you know this year 109 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: they were just in the NFC Championship game. Even the 110 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: pick they have from Atlanta is I think pick thirteen 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: and it's a terrible quarterback draft. So and I have 112 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: a hard time seeing them draft Tys Simpson. So you 113 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: look at the Rams and you go The real test 114 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: for McVeigh is after having these back to back number 115 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: one overall picks, which he has excelled with, he created 116 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's success in the pros and kind of validated 117 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: Stafford's career. And they've had I mean, they kick ass 118 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: and take names when Matt's healthy. Well, like to me, 119 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: the question is big picture, is Sean McVeigh going to 120 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: be like a thirty year guy. Is he going to 121 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: be a guy that you look up and he's like 122 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: he just coached for three decades. And I do think 123 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: the amount of money in the league. Mike Tobviln's a 124 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: good example. He was making twenty five million dollars a year. 125 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: So let's just say the last three years he had 126 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: banks seventy five million, I know, after tax and everything. 127 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Well even before that, it's not like Michael was making 128 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: two He was so rich when he's making this decision, 129 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: and he's not really that old, right, he's fifty three 130 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: years old. He can go, you know what, I can 131 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: take a year away, take a deep breath and figure 132 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: this thing out, go do TV and just see how 133 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: it goes. And I don't necessarily need coaching, because financially, 134 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: why do we aspire to do whatever we're doing. I mean, 135 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: at the root of it, it's to make some money 136 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: to live, right, And then as you get older, maybe 137 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: you become passionate about what you do. Obviously, these coaches 138 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: love to coach. I love the podcast. A lot of 139 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: you listening to this. Whatever your given profession is, you 140 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: are passionate, you enjoy doing it. It fulfills you in life, 141 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: which I totally can relate to. But like, we do 142 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: it for a reason, like the money matters, and once 143 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: you get to a certain point, you know, I think 144 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: you start, priorities in your life can change, and Sean 145 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: McVay dabbled years ago with the Amazon thing. It's easy 146 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: right now because he has an excellent team and he 147 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: has a quarterback. But if Matt Stafford retires next year, 148 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: my question is what do they do? And I think 149 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: the answer is pretty simple. They will be the number 150 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: one team that will offer absolutely everything to acquire the 151 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: best quarterback who has discrowned, and I think all signs 152 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: would be on Joe Burrow if this thing starts to 153 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: get weird, they would be the team that it's like, oh, 154 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a couple first round picks and a couple whatever the 155 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: other team that is in the mix or other teams 156 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: are willing to offer. I could see McVeigh in Lessenie 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: doubling that. And if I'm Kronky, I give them the 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: go ahead to do whatever it takes. And I'm just 159 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: using Joe Burrow as an example, but that will be 160 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: their path. Like I have a hard time thinking that 161 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: they will just attempt to trade up in a draft 162 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: and take a guy that they hope will work. That's 163 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: not really the business Sean mcvay's in, and he's proven 164 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: that in the past he's proven that now with Stafford, 165 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: and this draft's an easy one to avoid that because 166 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks just do not exist. So maybe they take 167 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a guy like they did stets have been in a 168 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, like a Garrett ness Meyer in 169 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: the third or fourth round, and maybe hope they strike oil. 170 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: But they're not in the business. I'm banking that on that. 171 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: They're in the business now of trying to compete at 172 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: the highest level every single year. And when you have 173 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Sean McVay under contract, he's already kind of flirted with 174 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: other situations. You can't tempt fate and you have to 175 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: be really really aggressive to keep him happy because, let's 176 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: face it, Mike Tomlin this offseason, let's just assume he 177 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: does some TV, which if he has John, what do 178 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: you think I should do? You've been in this media 179 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: world next, Mike, I wouldn't do shit. I would sit back, 180 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: enjoy life whatever you like, golf, fish, sleep, travel, do 181 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: whatever the bleep you want to do. You do not 182 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: have to go on TV to like up your stock 183 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: because next year you will be, if not the number 184 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: one guy depending on who's available at the top of 185 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: teams lined up for your services. Now, if you want 186 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: to do TV, if you want to keep scratching that 187 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: itch and talk some ball, it will only help. But 188 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: you are at the point you do not need to 189 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: do that. Enjoy your riches and take a year to 190 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of do something that you've never been able to 191 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: do because you've been working this profession forever. Sean McVay 192 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: would be the same, and even a higher level because 193 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: he's an offensive guy in his an offensive league. That 194 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: if Sean McVay in like five years say like, you 195 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: know what, I need a break. I'm burnout. I've been 196 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: grinding for fifteen years. I need a deep breath. John 197 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Gruden once did this, and then John Gruden realized I 198 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: can scratch my itch. I'm making so much money on 199 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, and I'm a rock star, like I 200 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: am the poster child for this. Sean McVay would be that. 201 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: Mike Mike Tomlin would be that if he wanted to 202 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: be right, Amazon would probably immediately make Mike Tomlin the 203 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: other analyst with Al Michaels and maybe find out, like, ah, 204 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: this life's not bad. It's like, wait, you pay me 205 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars to work ten percent of the time. 206 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: And it's not because it's not as it's still a 207 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: lot of work, but relative to the coaching world, let's 208 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: face it. Quesci went on a paternity leave and universally 209 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the league players coaches all were like, what what the 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? That ain't allowed here, buddy, the 211 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: you would are you serious? Like yeah, yeah, w two employment, No, 212 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: you're the general manager's training camp. It's cut downs where 213 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: you at gotta come back to work. No, I'm out 214 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: of office like that. It just didn't fuck people. Sean 215 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: McVay had a child on Sunday night and coach four 216 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: days later on the road and honestly did a great 217 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: job until the special teams fell apart. They were gonna 218 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: win that game, you know. So it's a profession that'll 219 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: just wear you thin. And the amount of money has 220 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: to change people's mindsets. I don't care who you are. 221 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: I think one thing. When you know the NBA's taken 222 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: a lot of crap. The regular season has never been worse, right, 223 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot of times it's unwatchable. I was like, 224 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: what's gonna motivate these guys? I mean, average players now 225 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: make twenty million dollars a year. The Stars make forty 226 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: to fifty sixty million dollars in any game they want. 227 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: It's like I just take it off and it doesn't matter. 228 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: No one can tell them any differently. And if I 229 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: was in their shoes, I'd probably do the same, right 230 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: because everyone kind of does that, So it's not like 231 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: you look like, you know, some some outlier, some some 232 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: bucking against the trends that's not taking place, like, well, 233 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: everyone's doing it, so why wouldn't I? And then it's 234 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: promoted where I think these football coaches, these old school 235 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: guys are just wired to grind and they got into 236 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the gig when the money was nothing. These younger guys, 237 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: the Kyle's, the McVeigh, they're gonna accumulate a ton of 238 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: cash by the time they're fifty years old, and we 239 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: have never seen that. It's so, I you know, why 240 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: are these guys think how many former players would have 241 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: been excellent coaches. It's like, do I want to work 242 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: that life when I've already made one hundred and forty 243 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: million dollars playing in the league, And the answer for 244 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: most of them is like, no, it's not worth it. 245 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Now. 246 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Some of them eventually get back because they kind of 247 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: get bored. But early on and they're kind of stepping away. 248 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: They're like, I don't need to do anything, and that's true, 249 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: you don't. So I think Sean mcvagh the my only 250 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: question is how are they going to find another quarterback? 251 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: And I think the answer is there is not going 252 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: to be a team in the league that will do 253 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: more and move mountains to acquire the best possible veteran 254 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: quarterback and potentially talk to a team and convince them like, yeah, 255 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: you're offering me that much, you can have my guy, 256 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: and they would be the team. And they've proven it 257 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: before with fuck them Picks the other news. And I 258 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: record this before Roge talk, so I'm sure he's going 259 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: to be asked about international games and will they'll be 260 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: an international super Bowl? So I'm not going to speculate 261 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: on what he's going to say. But this year the 262 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Saints are going to host a game in Paris, and 263 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: I guess I see both sides. To me, it's kind 264 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: of a double edged sword. On one side, it's like 265 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: you're trying to expand you're trying to, you know, how 266 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: much more can you maximize the States? So you're trying 267 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: to build more of a global operation. I think if 268 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: you the you know, Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, like 269 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: those brands, like why can't the NFL kind of be international? 270 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: And they have gone all in on that, And part 271 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: of it is it's inevitable the package that's coming. Robert 272 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Craft talked about it. There's going to be an international 273 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: package like Thursday Night. I do wonder if we get 274 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: to the point though, you're at a huge disadvantage depending 275 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: on the team where you're traveling from, Like anyone close 276 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: to the Eastern Seaboard flying over to Europe to you know, 277 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: to the UK to France to wherever is much easier 278 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: flight than if you're Seattle, San Francisco, Arizona. The LA 279 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: teams raiders like it's a it's a long long travel. 280 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: And this league is obsessed with these international games. And 281 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: when I saw the Paris thing, if you're going to 282 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: do this series of sixteen games, they're clearly thinking, we're 283 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: not all gonna be in Wembley Stadium, We're not all 284 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna be there. We're gonna be in seven eight countries. 285 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: And I mean they've already messed with Brazil, They've done 286 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Mexico City in the past, I'm sure you know Japan 287 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: will be on the table, surely that they used to 288 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: play over there when I was younger. I think definitely 289 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: when I was a kid in like junior high. I 290 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: remember the forty nine ers played a preseason game in Japan, 291 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: So get buckle up for that one. And now going 292 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: to France. That the league like this is once upon 293 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: a time, Thursday Night football was a big feather in. 294 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Like Roger Goodell and Roll Lap who is now the 295 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: PGA Tour Commissioners like their expansion of the NFL's revenue 296 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: streams because all they're trying to do is grow revenue. 297 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: And once you get so big, you get to a 298 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: point like what's Apple gonna do to get any bigger? 299 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: It's like they've already hit on the phone. The iPad. Hell, 300 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: they're the AirPod business alone, I think i've read would 301 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: be like a top five hundred company. The amount of 302 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: money that they generate off the AirPods. Like just eventually 303 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: you're just gonna run out of stuff to do. And 304 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: I think football in the NFL, like they're viewing it, 305 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: they only have so many more pitches and they're all 306 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: in on this. I think if you view it like 307 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football was fourteen years ago. This is gonna 308 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: be viewed the same and they will sell it to Netflix, 309 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: and they will sell it to Amazon or whoever. We'll 310 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: get that package, and there will be a game every 311 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: single morning, bright and early when we get up for 312 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: the entire football season. And one day it'll be in Brazil, 313 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: one day it'll be in France, one day it'll be 314 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: in Japan, Saudi Arabia, you name it. It'll be all 315 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: over the world. And I think that is going to 316 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: be probably Roger's last big swing, is I help turn 317 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: the NFL into a global brand, Because twenty years ago 318 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: it was a domestic sport like basketball was an international sport. 319 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Baseball was clearly an international sport, big in Asia, big 320 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: in Southern America. Football's football like it was played here. 321 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily know if it's going to expand 322 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: from a playing standpoint, like little kids in France or 323 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: Madrid are going to be yelling, you know Blue eighty two, 324 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: you know under center running go routes. But if you 325 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: can get them to watch it, and I think they 326 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: view F one and soccer, they're trying to do that, 327 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: and whether it works because if it does, it could 328 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: take the NFL to a completely different level. Before we 329 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: dive into Guido, I do have. I got to hit 330 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: on a couple dad diaries and uh, there is I 331 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: owe a huge apology. I've probably talked shit behind parents 332 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: young parents backs for a long time, like it can't 333 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: be that hard, and the lack of sleep is just 334 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: it is a grind and I'm not going to complain 335 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: about it. Everyone goes through it, but you just try to. 336 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: You just try to battle through it and drink enough 337 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: coffee and coke zeros as humanly possible, and you get 338 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: to a point where you don't even think it's doing anything. 339 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: But it is cool seeing you know your child, your 340 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: young son kind of become more of a human that 341 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: every day. It's a really powerful thing. But as any 342 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: parent knows that, the changing situation is quite the experience. 343 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: And I always I never I have two young nephews 344 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: that are now six and three. I don't think I've 345 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: ever really held an infant baby. Part of it was 346 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the floppy neck. I just never felt comfortable. It was 347 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: like I don't want it to be on my watch 348 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: that I dropped so and so's kid. So it was 349 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: almost like when you meet a golfer, you know, or 350 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: hear a golfer talk and they're like, I'm never going 351 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: to play Augusta until I make the Masters. That was 352 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: always kind of in a roundabout way my logically, I'm 353 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: never holding the baby, tell us my baby. And then 354 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: once you get it, you realize the changing diapers and 355 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: stuff isn't even that gross. It becomes kind of second nature. 356 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: But the first couple of weeks it's pretty easy. Babies 357 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of sits there, you change it, you white moth, 358 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: it's it's really cack. As they're gaining a little personality, 359 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: especially a boy, then that penis starts, you know, aim 360 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: in different ways. And for those of you that don't 361 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: have children, you put the thing up on a changing 362 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: put the kid up on a changing table sort of thing, 363 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: and it's got like a pea pat under it, like 364 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: you know dogs have or whatever. And typically you have 365 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: like a trash can, but not a normal trash can, 366 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: because you can't just throw the dirty diapers in an 367 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: open trash can because it would stink. So you have 368 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: these things like diaper genies that have like basically enclosed 369 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: situations that you can press with your foot, push the 370 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: diaper down there and it closes. You don't smell anything, 371 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: but like you're not able to do it all in once, 372 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: so you kind of got to like take the stuff 373 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: off the kid, reach around, and you're kind of all 374 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: over the place. You need to be like an octopus, 375 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: but it's kind of difficult depending on the setup of 376 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: your room. And I didn't need to worry for the 377 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of any crazy explosions or pea 378 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: flying around, but I would say the last three or 379 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: four days turned into like a hose. And I when 380 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: I remodeled our house for like a year, I didn't 381 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: even have blinds cause the blinds and the shutters he 382 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: had on the house when I bought it were so 383 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: bad we just ripped them off, and honestly, for like 384 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: the first six months, we had nothing in any room 385 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: of the house. Probably not a great idea when you 386 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: live in a place that gets like one hundred and 387 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: fifteen degrees. Probably didn't help the bill, But then I 388 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: would highly recommend this. No free ads. I'm not paid 389 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: for Costco. If you buy something like I have motorized 390 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: blinds through them. Let's say you spend fifteen k They 391 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: give you almost twenty percent back in money you can 392 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: spend through Costco. So I went through Costco. Great BUYE. 393 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: I got like thirty five hundred dollars back, which we 394 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: shop there anyway that you just kind of reinvest back. 395 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: So it was a really goodbye. They did a really 396 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: good job. But I put one in his room and 397 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: it's a really nice motorized shade. It came down and 398 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: I look over and he is just his p is 399 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: probably three feet in the air, just drenching this shade. 400 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this that, like is Tom 401 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Brady or a Navy seal or anyone that is in 402 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: like a very very that has to produce in their 403 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: job in the highest of stresses. Like at the end 404 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: of the day, like I have stresses to do a 405 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: good job doing this and keep people entertained and be 406 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: good with sponsors and keep this business rolling. But like 407 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: when I record a podcast, it's not like, you know, 408 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: it's you're down twenty here in the fourth quarter. I 409 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: don't feel stressed when I'm doing this. And like if 410 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: you are in the military or a football player or whatever, 411 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: there's just a daily stress you get cut you can 412 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: lose if you're an athlete. If you are certain some 413 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: of these industries, right, sales guy, you don't hit the quota, 414 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna get fired. Right. I wonder if you have 415 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: a huge advantage when you're dealing with an infant baby 416 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, peace flying hitting you in 417 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: the face, diaper on the ground, pooh, everywhere. The baby 418 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: is screaming bloody murder, and you got to keep it 419 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: calm and listen. I'd be the first. I'm not acting 420 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: like a couple times, I haven't lost it. But if 421 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: you lose it, you create an energy and you make 422 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: the situation worse. So you have to bring the level 423 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: down to like zero to even attempt to get him come. 424 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: And I was wonderful a guy like some of these 425 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks thrive in infant situations because they just don't get 426 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: stressed in that situation, Like they're just completely unfazed. And 427 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of those human beings for the first time. 428 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: And that pee, it starts going up like a hose, 429 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: and you know, if he starts wiggling around, it starts 430 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: firing at different places. You're covering it with, you know, 431 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: different diapers with your hand. You get it on your shirt. 432 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: You try to avoid the face. It's all over the 433 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: motorized blind, which was not cheap, and you basically got 434 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: to just say, like, you know, as Carrie Underwood one says, 435 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Jesus take the wheel. It's out of my control. And 436 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: I've been preaching this for a long time and I'm 437 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: a huge believer in this. The Internet and Instagram specifically 438 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: has made so many people treat their children like they 439 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: are models for the gram. I think clothing, obviously it 440 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: gets cold, you got to keep them warm, but like 441 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: it's such a waste to put it on because they 442 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: immediately go through it. And you just go through outfit 443 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: after outfit, and this pee, I'm telling you, bro it 444 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: goes everywhere and there's just no you can put on 445 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: the viper perfectly, and that thing is still a puddle 446 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: all over his close And you go over there in 447 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: the bass of net, you know, at four in the morning, 448 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: and it's like a little lake in there, and he's 449 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: just snoozing and just sleeping on a lake. 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I woke up this morning to some news. 494 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: I said, what perfect time I'm having my man Al 495 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: Guido who was you know? I knew him as the 496 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: president of the forty nine ers. In this morning, Jed's like, 497 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: he's my CEO of the forty nine ers. So al 498 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: forty nineers are obviously hosting the Super Bowl. I will 499 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: be there in the next twenty four hours. Congratulations and 500 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: good to see him, man. 501 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: Thanks Sean, Man, it's good to be on. It's great 502 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: to see you. 503 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: Does that something I mean, it didn't just happen overnight. 504 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been the president of the Niners, what 505 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: almost a decade? 506 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a decade, man. I think it's probably 507 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: not as long as I've known you. So I've been 508 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: out here for fifteen years, but I've been in the 509 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: president's chair for the last ten and so. No, Jed 510 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: and I've been talking about it for the last call 511 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: it a month or so, and it's I'm thrilled, man, 512 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm humbled. It's been a great family. Jed is the 513 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: best to work for and having teammates like John and 514 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: Kyle on the football side are just is just awesome. 515 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: Man. 516 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I wish we were playing in this 517 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: game that we're hosting. That's the only down the bummer 518 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: about it all. But it's a really special group to 519 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 2: be a part of, man, and I'm looking forward to 520 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: doing it for hopefully as long as they let me. 521 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as someone that grew up in that area, 522 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean when I was a kid, Steve Young, I 523 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: was a little after Montana era, but Steve and Jerry 524 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: and you know, it was as big as it gets. 525 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: And you got the opportunity to be the CEO of 526 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: one of the biggest brands in American sports, probably in 527 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the world. When you just factor in the brand, you know, 528 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: I talk obviously a lot of football, you know, John Kyle, 529 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: the people in those rules. When you're the president, now 530 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: the CEO, like does that from a day to day standpoint, 531 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: Like what do you do? 532 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: Well? You mentioned running the business of it, which is 533 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: frankly grown in size and people in complexity, I mean 534 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: all across the board. Right when I first got here, 535 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: we were embarking on trying to build Levi Stadium. We 536 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: went from the oldest non renovated stadium in the US 537 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: at Candlestick Park, which had tremendous great memories, but frankly 538 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: put us in the bottom quartile a lot of metrics, 539 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: and now you return to the rightful place of top quartile, 540 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: not just on the field, but off the field in 541 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: the business. And John Levi's has been great. Like it's 542 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: been a you know, twelve years, we've obviously made it 543 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 2: a home field advantage. Now over time, we had our 544 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: stops and starts in the very beginning, there's no doubt 545 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: about that. I think we've learned from all that we've grown. 546 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: And then you mentioned it just the international footprint. I mean, 547 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: the Niners were already a massive brand, five time Super 548 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: Bowl champions, the most dominant team in the Bay. But 549 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: now you look at us on the road, you look 550 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: at us internationally, you look at the events that we 551 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: put in this building. It's just grown. I think when 552 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: I first got here, the Niners are roughly about eighty employees, 553 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: and now fast forward, you're close to five hundred. It's 554 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: just a different operation in organization now. And I say 555 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: that for the good. It's just that being part of 556 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: the National Football League, it's just the engine man, it's 557 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: the machine that just keeps on growing, and I'm proud 558 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: to be a part of it. 559 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, when I worked for the Eagles, I used 560 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: to work out some times in the morning, but i'd 561 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: go there to shower. My locker was right around Don Smilenski's, 562 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: who used to just be there bright and early, riding 563 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: the bike, and I used to pick his brain because 564 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, they had a newer stadium relative to the 565 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: you guys a couple of years before, maybe like a 566 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: decade or whatever, but it was so big for you know, 567 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift or whoever would come by, and obviously that's 568 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: a big deal for you guys. Stadium talk is such 569 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: a big deal in the NFL, because is it the 570 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: importance of the suites? Is it the importance of getting 571 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble, the WrestleMania, Taylor Swift? Whatever? Because football 572 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: is not basketball or baseball, right, you only get eight 573 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: or nine games. 574 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: Yep, It's it's so important, man. I mean, look, it's 575 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: it's good for our community too. Like I don't want 576 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: to overstate the importance for the forty nine ers, because 577 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: there's no doubt the NFL is still kind of the 578 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 2: hero feature, the biggest, you know, part of our revenue stream. 579 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: But you know when you go on and bark about 580 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: building these stadiums, they're no longer. You mentioned the Eagles, right, 581 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: and Don's a dear friend. I think he's one of 582 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: the best people in this in our industry. You know, 583 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: those stadiums cost three four hundred million. Right now you've 584 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: got stadiums costing two three six billion dollars. And so 585 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: to pay for those stadiums, you can't just put ten 586 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: games on, right, it just doesn't make sense. And then 587 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: to be able to host a Super Bowl, it's not good, 588 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: not just good for us. Frankly, it's okay for the 589 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, it's fine. It's actually great for our region. 590 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about two billion dollars of economic 591 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: impact that's been delivered since we opened up Levi Stadium. 592 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: That's in the first twelve years. We're going to do 593 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: over a billion in the next six months between the 594 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and the World Cup, talking about ten thousand jobs. 595 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: I mean Daniel Laurier, our great mayor of San Francisco, 596 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: the other day he told me one point three million 597 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: people are going to fly in here over of course 598 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: to seven days, four hundred thousand hotel rooms are booked. John, 599 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: you know this market really well, right. It got beat 600 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: up during COVID. There's a lot of national stories about it. 601 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: I was fun to see Charles Barkley admit the San 602 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: Francisco is a great place during the NBA All Star Game. 603 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: But I kind of view that as our jobs, like 604 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: we're behind the scenes. To your point, the actors and 605 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: the actresses, they're the stars, John, Kyle, the team, they're 606 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: the stars, but there's a lot of people behind the scenes. 607 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: I use a lot of sports analogies, like we all 608 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: need teammates. Yeah, we got to have a quarterback, but 609 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: we all need team mates and the team behind the 610 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: scenes that the forty nine ers are just fantastic. And 611 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, when you got a good quality product on 612 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: the field, that helps it just makes everything go a 613 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: little bit smoother. 614 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: So let's talk some super Bowl. When you get a 615 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: new stadium, do you automatically get the Super Bowl? Is 616 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: that why you got it the first time? Or you 617 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: don't exactly get it? 618 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: No, you don't. Actually, as a matter of fact, you 619 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: have to. You have to go through the process. John. 620 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: So it used to be that cities would bid against 621 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: each other, and I'm glad they changed that to be 622 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: totally honest. Like, So what happens now is you eventually 623 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: you you sign up for your interest, like an indication 624 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: of interest. So then you get a note back from 625 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: the NFL says, hey, we're willing to talk to you 626 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: about Super Bowl. Then you have to put your best 627 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: foot forward. It's like your sales pitch and it's like 628 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: your job interview. So for us, I don't remember exactly 629 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: when this happened, but I started I've embarked on this 630 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 2: about five years ago, trying to get like all of 631 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: our support necessary to convince the commissioner and Peter O'Reilly 632 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: and everybody else to bring it back. But to do that, 633 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: we had the entire Barrier Caucus sign up for support. 634 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: You have all your corporate spond to sign up for support. 635 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to raise a significant amount of 636 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: money just to put this event on, just given the 637 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: size and scale that it's grown to John and so 638 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: we were never guaranteed a Super Bowl. We felt good 639 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: that we were going to get fifty, knowing that we 640 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 2: built the stadium. But you fast forward to get sixty, 641 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: the competitive landscape was entirely different. Allegiance didn't exist in 642 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: Vegas so far didn't exist in LA. You already had 643 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl markets in New Orleans or others right 644 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: in Miami, and so now it's a really really competitive 645 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: thing to be able to win the rights to host 646 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: one of these. 647 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: So it's when you say, Roger and his team, is 648 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: it you presenting or like you put in a bit originally, 649 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: and then there's a process from there where you start 650 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: doing a presentation in front of goodell. 651 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we actually do. It's a 652 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: fun sales pitch man, and I we're aggressive here at 653 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, Like I didn't wait for that 654 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: indication of interest to come. I sent over a note 655 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: in letters to the league telling them why they needed 656 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: to come back here. 657 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 658 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: And then obviously got that got our foot in the door. 659 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: And you know when we when we got when we 660 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: got our foot in the door, man, we just knocked 661 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: out of the park. And it takes an army and 662 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: we host. You have to have a nonprofit entity and 663 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: we already had one in Super Bowl fifty, but we 664 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: dissolved it and so we recreated something called the Barrier 665 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: Host Committee, which is effectively a nonprofit commission to help 666 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: put on the event. And what I was proud about 667 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: this time around, John, because we had to make the 668 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: best sales pitches. Every single one of my counterparts at 669 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: all the other Barrier Professional Sports team signed up to 670 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: be part of that board. They all actually put in 671 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: their own dollars to support our cause and effort. And 672 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: you look at now like Chase Centers involved in the bid, 673 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: SAP Centers involved, which is where the home of the 674 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: San Jase Sharks, Larry Bear and Oracle Park, you know, 675 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: their whole ball ballparks involved in the bid. Because the 676 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: footprint is just so drastically different, and so yeah, it was, 677 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: it was. It was a hard thing to do. You 678 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: don't know who you're competing against. Frankly they never tell you, 679 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: but you know, never let let anything or you know, 680 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: never have a risk a chance, just put your best 681 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: foot forward. 682 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: So it's almost like a construction company if they want 683 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: to build something and four people put in bids. Let's 684 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: just pick a number one hundred million dollars give or take, 685 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: and that company picks the guy that did the highest. 686 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: Let's say it's one fifteen one of those. It's kind 687 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: of a blind bid and it goes like that year 688 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: to year. When do you officially find out is that 689 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: an owner's meeting, when Roger announces that you guys got 690 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. 691 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're told privately right before, Like generally speaking, they 692 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 2: do it at the annual meeting in March. I want 693 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: to say ours was like two years ago, was when 694 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: they officially announced US. I think we knew probably a 695 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: couple of months prior to that. But John, this was 696 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: even more delicate because the year of twenty six also 697 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: includes the World Cup year in the United States, and 698 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 2: so you have I think ten cities in the US 699 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: that are also hosting US bids. And so what was 700 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: important to the super Bowl or to the NFL, I 701 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 2: should say, was that we had the not just monetarily, 702 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: but that we had the capacity from a political perspective 703 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: and a corporate perspective on the support to host the 704 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and the World Cup in the same calendar 705 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: year and will be the only stadium that has ever 706 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: done that in the history of those two events. And 707 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: so I'm really really proud of our region and our 708 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: team to pull that off because frankly, a lot of 709 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: people probably didn't want to, you know, undertake that effort, 710 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: but we did. 711 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: Does the World Cup entail like downtown, the Moscone Center, 712 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: all the different stuff going on as well. 713 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: It's a little different because it's spread out a little 714 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: bit more in that regard where you'll have the participating 715 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: countries or teams you know, stay mostly in the South 716 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: Bay in and around the facility, just given the tournament 717 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 2: nature and so where Yeah, there's probably more events happening 718 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, and then there might be in the 719 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: South Bay. Since you know the market, I can speak 720 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 2: to you in that way. The World Cup will probably 721 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: flip John where most of the events will happen more 722 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: in the South Bay than they will in San Francisco. 723 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: Just get dude, the you know, the event schedule. But 724 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: the good news is, you know, between NBA All Star 725 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: which happened here at Chase Center, the Super Bowl, and 726 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: the World Cup, like I mentioned, that's over a billion 727 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: dollars in economic impact and literally like less than a 728 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: year timeframe, which is which is really awesome. 729 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: So as this stuff's going on right now downtown the 730 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl week as the host team and obviously you 731 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: run point for the business of the forty nine ers, 732 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: how much is that on you and your guys run 733 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: and point all this stuff and how much of it 734 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: goes on rog and his team because obviously it's a 735 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: huge NFL corporate event. 736 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: Is that fair to say, Yeah, it's fair to say. 737 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 2: I would say the Monday through Saturday it's probably split. 738 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: Call it fifty to fifty them us. Game Day is 739 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 2: a lot of us, and I mean like the particular 740 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: parts of game day, right the stadium operation. We already 741 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: know how to operate that building, and so they rely 742 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: on a lot of our staff, the grounds crew, and 743 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 2: I think Mack Grinder, in my opinion, is the best 744 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 2: in the game. Our field at Levi's is known as 745 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: one of the highest rate of fields there and so 746 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 2: to know that Matt and his team are working on 747 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 2: that on behalf of the teams themselves, which is Look, 748 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: it's a little weird because you're throwing a party for 749 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: in one case, our division rival, in another case an 750 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: AFC team. But I'm proud of our staff man. They're 751 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: working their tails off to to do a good job 752 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: on the two on behalf of the two participating teams. 753 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: Darnold former Niner, So I mean, hey, listen, Sam, Sam's 754 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: Sam's a great guy. And uh, look I'm gutted. Of 755 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: course every year you want to win the thing and 756 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,479 Speaker 2: we want to put a six Lombardi Trophy in there. 757 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: But uh, you know, hard pressed not to be happy 758 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 2: for him as a human. He's so such a good dude. 759 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: He was good, he's good with us, and he's had 760 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: a hell of a. 761 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: Year, you know, for your role for people listening, you know, 762 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: I think you know, the GMS and the coaches now 763 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: are so famous as the number one television show in America. 764 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: These guys are just famous as the players, especially they 765 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: coach like Kyle as CEO president running the business side. 766 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, we talk a lot about alignment, right, you know, 767 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: just inside the organization, your role working with those guys 768 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: on a daily basis, over the the aggregate of a season, 769 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: over the off season, how is your role impacted by 770 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: their role beside you know, wins and losses. I'm just saying, 771 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: working with them, how often do you rely on them? 772 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: Do you ask them for stuff to help you out? 773 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: Because clearly, you know from seasons I saw you know, 774 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: Robert Sala taking phone calls. You know, that's that's always 775 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: a new coach thing. A little different with Kyle who's 776 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: what he's going to be going on year ten. Him 777 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: and McVeigh hired the same cycles. They've been here for 778 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: a while, so it's not like he's got to get 779 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: on the on the horn. It sells itself. But your 780 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: role relative to the GM and the coach. 781 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: I talk to him all the time, you know, I 782 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: consider myself their teammate and I'm here to support them 783 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 2: and what they need. Right, the reality is our job 784 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 2: is to win football games and put a Lombardi Trophy 785 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 2: in there. Like that's not lost in all of us, Frankly, 786 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: like you mentioned some of the guys, we stand on 787 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 2: the shoulders of giants who came before us. Like if 788 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: we ever forget what our goal is, we're reminded the 789 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: minute we walk into four nine four nine, when we 790 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: stare at the Umbardi trophies what our job is to do. 791 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 2: But they also understand John that look like, you know, 792 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 2: if all we do is win, we will have failed. Right. 793 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: We do have other goals, and our fan base has 794 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 2: been supportive of us through the ups and downs. I've 795 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: been in the National Football League twenty years with two 796 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 2: different franchises, and I gotta tell you, like John and 797 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: Kyle are the best teammates I've ever had, and they 798 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: understand that there are requirements that sit outside of just 799 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: coaching that or just picking players, and that it's bigger 800 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: than that. But I'll tell you, like when it comes 801 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: around to Sundays, man, I feel good about our opportunity 802 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,959 Speaker 2: to win based off the work they do. And John, 803 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: we have a salary cap in our league. So the 804 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, no matter how high our 805 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: revenue streams may go or what we do, there's always 806 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: going to be some level of economic parody. Yeah, right, 807 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: but you're hard pressed. I mean you cover this league. 808 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: The teams who consistently win, right, are teams that have 809 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: alignment between their business and their football staff and their 810 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: ownership team. And Jed York's awesome, man. And to know 811 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: that I've been having I guess what ten years with 812 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: these guys is coming here on the continuity of our group, 813 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: the getting to know each other really well. We enjoy 814 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 2: each other both you know, at work and frankly outside 815 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: of work. We're dear friends. I think it matters. I mean, 816 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 2: you've been in NFL buildings, you know what that feels like. 817 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: When you got a group that's working hard together for 818 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,959 Speaker 2: a common goal, and we got one. Here. 819 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: Can I tell you what my friends at Quint's. 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Why is the guy at the top, 843 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes hard to find it's easy to 844 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: go well Kyle called a bad play there, or he says, hey, 845 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: we should have done this. The game's very you know, 846 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: buying area, it's very black and white. With the owner. 847 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: It's like it's hard to tell. You know, everyone in 848 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: the league, right, You've heard these stories of different buildings. 849 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: Why is it so important for that that guy's role 850 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: down throughout the building. And I'm not just talking resources 851 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: and cutting checks, but what role do they play in 852 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: the success of an NFL team? 853 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 2: Oh, so they're so important, John, And it's hard. It's 854 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 2: like that's a hard job, right, I mean, you think 855 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: about it. There's few companies in the world, businesses in 856 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: the world, and the NFL is a business too that 857 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: like you have this many people telling you what to 858 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: do every day, and and to have an owner that 859 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: you know is patient and understands that none of this 860 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: stuff happens overnight, that you know is not suaded by 861 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 2: one ounce of media coverage or the other. And I 862 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: don't say that in a bad thing, Like I'm gifted 863 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: by the fact that so many people care about our game. 864 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: And that's his viewpoint on it too, Like all of 865 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 2: this is actually good and helpful. But I think John 866 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: is sort of like to have the patience right to 867 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: have you know that you talked about. The resources, of 868 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: course are important, but to me, when when leadership matters, 869 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: and when you're leader, which in Jed walks into the 870 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 2: building and he's confident in the people he's hired. He's supportive, 871 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: he's patient in getting to where we got to go. 872 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: He picks us up when we're down right, Like it's 873 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: really easy to play ther your fault, you know, my 874 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 2: fault type of thing. We don't get that. Like we 875 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 2: go through the ups and downs together as a group. 876 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 2: There's no finger pointing inside of our room. We all 877 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: know we got to get better at every single thing 878 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 2: we have. It opens an open and honest dialogue around that. 879 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 2: That part. And look, I've been part of two owners, 880 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, and that you know my previous one was great. 881 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: But I'm really blessed to work for the York family 882 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 2: and prior to them, John, you know you covered this franchise, 883 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: the York de Bartolow family and what that's meant to 884 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 2: the National Football League. Jed Jed certainly leans a lot 885 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 2: on his mom, his dad and of course his uncle. 886 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I recorded that was last night the A See debut. 887 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a couple I think it was a 888 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: couple of days ago. But yeah, I know what you're 889 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: talking about. 890 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, recorded on YouTube. Okay, yeah, last night was when 891 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: it got air. But yes, okay, from your seat, you know, 892 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: the GM role is clearly evolved from just sitting in 893 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: an office and watching tape and John's John, I'm sure 894 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: wears a lot of hats. What from you from your standpoint, 895 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: what just big picture? What makes that role so difficult? 896 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: And what do you see that in John Lynch that 897 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: he brings the table. That just is something that you've 898 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: been impressed by in your ten years or whatever being 899 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: around him. 900 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: His ability to connect with players I think is really 901 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: important John, and not just our currents, but you know 902 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: draft eligible players. Look, you you spent time in this world, 903 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 2: so you're gonna know what I say here. The margin 904 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: of error and or success is so small in this league, right, 905 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 2: everybody is big and fast and strong, and they play 906 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: at big time football in college, but truly like the 907 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 2: people that you select and draft into your room and 908 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: the culture that that makes up. Like, I'm really proud 909 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: to be affiliated with this team because people talk about 910 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 2: how good guys they are, right they police themselves, and 911 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 2: how hard they work. Well, you've got to know people 912 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: on an emotional level. And John playing the sport, broadcasting 913 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: the sport, and now in this I think he's just 914 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 2: got a really good lens to look at this where 915 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: it's like, Hey, they're not just draftable assets, they're actually humans. 916 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: And they're humans who play a tough, grimy, gritty game. 917 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: And I know how to actually understand what's in here, John, 918 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 2: not what's on the stat sheet, but what's actually in 919 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 2: here in the heart. And I like to think that's 920 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: what's made us successful in the fact of not only 921 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 2: have been good on the field, but we drafted really 922 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: quality players off the field, and that's led to having 923 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: a great culture and able to build us a fantastic brand. 924 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: Well, how many businesses in the world at the scale 925 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: in which the NFL is is the product the human capital? Right, 926 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, you look at Apple, you look at Costco. 927 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: It's all some form of widget, whether it's a phone, 928 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 1: whether it's a piece of meat, what regardless. But football, 929 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: it's the players, right. 930 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's one hundred percent and it's and 931 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 2: it's insuler and the fact of you know they're they're 932 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: in there by themselves. It's the ultimate team sport. You're 933 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 2: literally getting knocked down. You got to get back up. 934 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: I mean, character matters. You talked about it, right like, 935 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 2: that's why the ownership matters, because the belief, the going 936 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: through hard times together and how people it's always look 937 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: it's easy when everything's up into the right, whether that's 938 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 2: business or on the field. You really find out a 939 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: lot about people when you're going through the downtimes. And 940 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: we went through some some downtimes with this regime, whether 941 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,479 Speaker 2: it was injury related or whether it was the early 942 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: days and rebuilding the roster, and just to see how 943 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 2: hard this group works. It makes it really easy to 944 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: go into the office every single day. 945 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 1: I'll get you out of here on this I get 946 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: asked a lot of questions, advice and how to get 947 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: into the sporting world. And you know, if you're a 948 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player like John Lancher. You know, Kyle's 949 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: dad's Mike, and then he plays at Texas and he's 950 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: clearly just a brilliant born into the life. Like the 951 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: Kubiak fam. I mean, there's and then there's Alguido. You 952 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: played small school football right in New Jersey and whatever. 953 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: A couple of decades later, you're the CEO of the 954 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. You've been the president for a decade, 955 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: so you get asked this. You probably have people always 956 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: wanting to work for the forty nine ers. Just any 957 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: I would say general macro advice to young people that 958 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 1: are listening to this that want to quote unquote work 959 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: in sports, because I think it's easy to say that, 960 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: But then you start attacking, like where do I even start? 961 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: And you correct me if I'm wrong. You got your 962 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: start in ticket sales. 963 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, buddy, you know it. Well, Look, I'm I'm blessed. 964 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: I had two great parents. My father and my mother 965 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: is stilled a good work ethic of me. You know, 966 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, I got great coaches. 967 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, I was able to play D three sports, 968 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 2: and you gotta really love football to play D three sports. 969 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 2: No one's giving you a scholarship or name, image and 970 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 2: likeness to do that. 971 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: Were you like were you like Debo or McCaffrey, Like 972 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: I was a slot receiver. 973 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 2: I was a quarterback when I got there, and then 974 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,439 Speaker 2: some six or five kids transferred from D one down 975 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 2: and they quickly moved me to wide out. 976 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: So you're like the Jersey Edelman. 977 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 2: I'll take it, man, I'll take it. My advice John 978 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 2: is like, it's no different than Look, I got to 979 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 2: work for a lot of good people. I would say 980 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 2: I was inquisitive around the business itself. I wanted to 981 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 2: know everything, like how things worked. I wanted to know 982 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 2: how media deals worked. I wanted to know how sponsorship 983 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 2: deals work. I would just ask a bunch of questions 984 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 2: and I would get a lot of people around me. 985 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: But look, it's cliche, but it hangs as a quote 986 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 2: in my you know, in my office and at my 987 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 2: home for my girls. I have three girls, teenage girls. Look, 988 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 2: the dream is free, the hustle is sold separately. Everybody 989 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 2: wants to be in sports entertainment. If you're a sports fan, 990 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 2: like I was right, I would read every single publication 991 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: growing up. I'd watch Sports Center seven times on replay 992 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: and I would know exactly every word by the end. 993 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: But just loving it is not enough. Just enjoying sports 994 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: is not enough. Like how you treat people on the 995 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: work ethic that you have, you know will dictate your future. 996 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: And I appreciate the platform John to come on because 997 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 2: to me, and I tell my kids this, like anything 998 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 2: can happen, right as long as you're willing to dream 999 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 2: it and work hard enough to go get it. And 1000 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm an embodiment of it. But it is an honor 1001 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 2: to sit in this chair and to spend some time 1002 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: the other night with Carmen Policy who got to do 1003 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: it for me and win all those Super Bowl trophies 1004 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 2: with Eddie like it gives me something to strive for, man, 1005 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 2: And my hope is that and then you know, call 1006 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: it the near future that while I'm here, we get 1007 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: to put another trophy back in for this fan base, 1008 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 2: because man, they deserve it so much. 1009 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: So where are you and Rodge going to dinner tonight? 1010 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: I don't actually know. I think he's doing the State 1011 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: of the Union. So we'll see what's up. 1012 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: Okay, standing invite to that volume party on Wednesday night. 1013 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: I'll text you later this week, and thanks again for 1014 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: coming on and congrats on the Super Bowl, grats on 1015 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: the World Cup, and again congrats to you personally. That's 1016 00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: that's a big time bro. 1017 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 2: All right, right back at you man, Congrats to your family. 1018 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 2: So happy for you and UH and you and the 1019 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 2: cown and the rest of the team. All right, appreciate you. 1020 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: See I'll see you, see you buddy. The volume 1021 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 2: M hm