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Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy was not offering an NFL offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Probably arguably the best quarterback around you? What does your

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Speaker 5: And we know that, but we continue to fight.

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Speaker 2: That's all you can do.

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Speaker 1: O Joe I thought it was a mistake him leaving anyway,

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Speaker 1: and he let people convince him, well, you need to

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Speaker 1: You tell me where you thought you were gonna go,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: But I think about it from a receiver suspective, receiver perspective.

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Speaker 5: The commanders have great talent. They have great talent with.

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Speaker 6: What they look at? Who are they gonna blame?

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Speaker 1: Even if you're losing those games, Sam Howe goes out

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Speaker 1: And but I tell you what Andy thought of him.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy that held everybody accountable, from Patrick

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Speaker 4: of did you ever see the documentary called The Year

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Speaker 4: No, okay, Well, his coaching style is how I like

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Speaker 4: to say, how the kids are kids? A coach here

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Speaker 4: No matter who you are, everybody's not expendable, but everybody

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Speaker 4: And that's the way he coaching you. Hear a lot

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Speaker 2: That's why I was able to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's not going to be great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as a matter of fact, when you aren't like

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Speaker 5: You got to do the little things.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So I wish he be the best.

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Speaker 1: You know, O Joe, we say this, uh that whatever

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Speaker 2: Not in the cars for eb to be an NFL

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Speaker 1: Because Antonio Peers did not call the defensive snaps, right,

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Speaker 2: See that's what people got. People, Uh be fuddled.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hold on, Matt Naggi got the Chicago head

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Speaker 4: You have to understand the relationships. You have to understand

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Speaker 4: When it comes to coaches, that you will always have

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Speaker 4: not what you know is who you know. Yes, it's

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Speaker 4: when you come, when you come from that tree up

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Speaker 5: So you will always have a job no matter what.

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Speaker 1: That's that's why it's always like you'd be good because

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Speaker 1: At some point in times they were lesser to your

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Speaker 4: It, always have a job loans you don't. You can't

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Speaker 5: You can't burn no bridges.

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Speaker 1: That's why I felt very comfortable that I was always

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Speaker 1: And then I saw Marvin go get a job, Jack

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Speaker 1: jobs that was on that staff. Now they played with me.

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Speaker 1: They know what I brought to the table. Now, maybe

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a guy that's gonna give you eighty catchers

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes people think locker room doesn't matter. That only

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Speaker 2: Dynamic of a locker room matters.

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Speaker 1: And we kind of touched on this, Oh Joe do

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Speaker 2: Have ever left Kansas City? Now, I think that's the

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Speaker 5: Asking that that is a great that is a great situation.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, I'm putting myself and being in my

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Speaker 4: I have the ability to coach and Patrick Mahomes. There's

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Speaker 4: In Mahomes comparison to Brady, You're going to always win.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna always win, You're going to always be in contention,

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Speaker 4: and you never leave a situation like that ever.

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Speaker 6: Ever.

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Speaker 4: It's like having a girl. It's like having a girlfriend.

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Speaker 4: It's like having a girlfriend that does everything for you,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you watered the fertilizer of your grass, your glass,

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Speaker 1: your grass gonna be lush.

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Speaker 5: Every time, every time.

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Speaker 1: Changing on a more somber note, Richard Schamer. Richard Sherman

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Speaker 2: So this is really tough for me.

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Speaker 1: But what I don't understand is that Sharan has been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lady.

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Speaker 1: Lost her life, he lost his career, right and shearm

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Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas got in a car accident. He got thrown

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Speaker 2: We hung out.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm disappointed in his decision to want to continue

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Speaker 1: Got to get help because clearly that's an issue that

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny.

441
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 4: It's funny that I really have no It's hard for

442
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: me to speak on the topic outside of the mistake itself,

443
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 4: because I've made mistakes in like myself. But I'm not

444
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 4: a drinker, So I'm not sure how hard it is

445
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 4: for someone to give up on something, give on something,

446
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: give up on something like alcohol. Is it really that

447
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: hard to give up, especially if it's affecting now not

448
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 4: just other people's lives, but your livelihood and the work

449
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 4: that you do. So it's hard for me to talk

450
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: on it, so I'm curious I do when it comes

451
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 4: to alcohol?

452
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 2: Is that difficult? To stop.

453
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: How about I put it to you like this, you

454
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: take your worst situation. Would you put yourself back in

455
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: that situation again?

456
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 2: No? Oh no, see now see I got to give you.

457
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: See what I try to do is that I try

458
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: to give people things that they see. You don't drink,

459
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: so you don't know what it's like to stop drinking

460
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: or drink and then try to get behind the wheel.

461
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: How about I put it to you like this, I

462
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: take your worst situation, and then would you put yourself

463
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: back in that situation again?

464
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 4: Because you know what, if you take my worst situation

465
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: that I've had, I'd never recover again because I ain't

466
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 4: getting a second chance. I'm not getting another chance. It

467
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 4: ain't happening, come hell of high water. And it wasn't

468
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 4: a but God's favor. It wasn't none of God's fa

469
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: You know, I don't do all that preaching God this

470
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 4: and God that. But I know I know goodn't goddamn

471
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 4: well how I'm back where I fell from again.

472
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 5: It ain't no God. There ain't no goddamn luck.

473
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: Damn.

474
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I love Shering to death.

475
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 6: Man.

476
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 4: I hope he gets the help that he needs. Yes,

477
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 4: I'm sure he will be in the brilliant mind that

478
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: he is. Outside the mistake that he's made, the reoccurring

479
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 4: mistake that he's made, he gonna be all right.

480
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be all right.

481
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: But you can not just yourself in harm's way, but

482
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: others as well on the road.

483
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: And see that's the thing, Oh Joe, It's not an

484
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: isolated incident.

485
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: It's just not you, right, because guess what you brought

486
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: every other car that's on the road at the time

487
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: that you're on the road. You brought them into the equation, right,

488
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: And oh, but it didn't. But I'm saying, we always

489
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: say what it didn't happen, But then when it does happen. Oh,

490
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, thoughts and prayers, foughts and prayers ain't help nobody, right,

491
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: I just I just feel I just like I said,

492
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: I like I said, I know Sharan, and I just

493
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: hate that he put himself back in this situation we are.

494
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: After the Super Bowl the Lady Walk in twenty thirteen,

495
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: he lost his uncle and aunt, no his Yeah, his

496
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: uncle and aunt were killed by drunk drivers five hours

497
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: after watching him play in the Super Bowl. The Nail

498
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: House He lost his sister in law and three nephews

499
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: that were killed by drunk drivers a few years ago.

500
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Nephews were five, two and seven months.

501
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think when reaction time.

502
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you see you never look I your reaction

503
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: time is so much more.

504
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: It's bad. Huh.

505
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of like. It's kind of like where

506
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: you don't have enough sleep your reaction time. If they

507
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: keep you, they keep you up, and they put people

508
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: through tests in the military. They want you to be

509
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: able to function. That's why they wake your ass. That's

510
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: what they call it Hell week. They put you through

511
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: the test where you and you still got a function,

512
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: but your reaction time is not the same when you

513
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: get eight to ten hours of sleep. So you know,

514
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: oh Joe, just think about it. With somebody flashed their

515
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: hand in front of your face. All they do is

516
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: right there in the bumper the ball to hit the ground. Yeah,

517
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: that's the reaction. Yeah, you're right, that's all it takes. Yeah,

518
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: that's all it takes.

519
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 5: Damn.

520
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: But Sharon Mann, bro, take time, get this problem solved, bro,

521
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: cause you you better than this. You have a lot

522
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: to give, and uh, I would hate to see you

523
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: really really, not only hurt yourself, but harm someone, harm

524
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: someone else. Right now, your television career should be the

525
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: last thing that's on your mind. The first thing that

526
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: should be on your mind is getting the help that

527
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: you need so you can be there for your family,

528
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: your friends, and your loved ones. That's counting on Richard Sherman.

529
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: So we're praying for your bro. Thank god nobody was injured,

530
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: but we wish you the best and get the help

531
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: that you need. Yeah, Cam Newton was involved in a

532
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: wild brawl at a seven on seven football tournament. Video

533
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: merged today at a seven on seven youth football camp

534
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: about Cam getting involved. They forgot that Cam is not

535
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: a regular human being like them guys single handily.

536
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: I'm sure you watched it. We're showing it right now.

537
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: You know the funny, it's not about just watching this.

538
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: It's not just about watching this one. Listen, young fellas.

539
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: Parents need to understand when you have someone like Cam

540
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: Newton giving players an opportunity to display them sales at

541
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: these seven on seven camps, you were supposed to be

542
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 4: taken advantage of these situations. Many of times I have

543
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: seen clips not just forget this fight here, many of times.

544
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 4: I've seen players, I've seen coaches, and I've seen parents

545
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: disrespect Cam Newton at these camps seven on seven camps.

546
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 5: I've seen it before. I've seen the clips over the years.

547
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: You are supposed to be as parents, especially as kids,

548
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: soaking up as much knowledge as you can and talking

549
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: about football and just how can I get to where

550
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: you got to?

551
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: What do I need to do?

552
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about the camps I used to go

553
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: to when I was a little kid, reminding Hurricanes had

554
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: camps in the summer seven on seven When I was

555
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 4: at them, camp Man, I'm talking to the I'm talking

556
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: to the goddamn players from the Hurricanes and getting a

557
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 4: better understanding of what it took to get you here

558
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: even though they weren't in an NFL yet. How do

559
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: I get to this spot where you are? We need

560
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: to take advantage of that. But kids these days, they

561
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: want to argue, they want to talk trash, they want

562
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: to they want to act like they've already arrived. They're

563
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: the best thing, best thing coming to Christ. But that's

564
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: not it. That's not the case. And I see the

565
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: parents do the same thing, disrespecting Cam when he's giving

566
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: you guys a space to showcase your talents, and instead

567
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: you want to come there, you want to disrespect them,

568
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: you want to talk trash.

569
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: We've seen it, and is handling very well, Joe.

570
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: And you see Cam ain't really trying to punch nobody,

571
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: holding one off, like trying to throw them off like bro,

572
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: and they try to you know, like I said, I mean,

573
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to punch nobody because once he slung

574
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: him down, could have just tagged one of them when

575
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: the dude read up, he could have caught a two piece, Yeah, Cam,

576
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: but the probably would but their kids, and Cam has

577
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: that in the back of his mind. He's like, man,

578
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: if I might here slugging up swinging on these dudes, man,

579
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: even though they're in the wrong, that's still gonna look negative.

580
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: That's gonna project negatively on me.

581
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: But Cam is a better man than me because the time,

582
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: the first time the kids disrespected me, I ain't coming back.

583
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: The fact that he continues to come back.

584
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: That's my point. That's why I say better than me.

585
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: He continues of ho these camps those kids and players

586
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 4: have in parents and coaches as well.

587
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 5: Y'all got to take advantage of that.

588
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: Man, you gotta take advantage those situations to showcase your

589
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: talent because you never know who watching.

590
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 5: You never know who watching.

591
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: It's it's man, it's it's it's it's it's it's bad

592
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: because I oh, Joe, and I think I told you

593
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the story. Savannah State was playing Bullish State in Maryland.

594
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: They've playing in the stadium and Coach Davis obviously I

595
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: was in Baltimore at the time, and Coach Davis, who

596
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: recruited me, was still with the head coach. I think

597
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: he had left and came back, but anyway, he asked

598
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: me to come say a few words, and you know,

599
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: I went and spoke to the team and I remember

600
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: when I'm finishing well, you know, I'm getting ready to leave,

601
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I said, coach, I'm getting you were getting ready, getting

602
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: ready to have pregame meal, I said, Coach, I'm getting ready.

603
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: You know, I'm getting ready to leave. I appreciate it. Coach.

604
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: I hell hugged him and me and my homeboy Bucket,

605
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: one of the dudes went up to me. I signed

606
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: my autograph because I would be more famous than you. Ay,

607
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: it's okay, now juxtapold. Now that's Savannah State. That's my school, right,

608
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: I go to Clemson, taj boy I'm talking about I

609
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: think Sammy Watkins is there, Mark table, all of them

610
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: guys eyes on me at the end they come down there.

611
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate that, man, Boyd, that was motive A. I

612
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Man. Hey, that's awesome. Man.

613
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate it telling us what it takes to

614
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: get to the next level. I appreciate you telling us

615
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: what it takes to be a team and to win.

616
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. You see the difference.

617
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, kids don't a lot of these kids don't respect.

618
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: But if they don't respect their stranger, they damn sure

619
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: he respect their parents at home. Because I know if

620
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: that had been me and a professional athlete, president or

621
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: retired showed up, Yes sir, no, sir, Hey, how did

622
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: I do?

623
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: How did I do? Coach?

624
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: What can I do better? Can I get better? That's

625
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: my thought process. Oh Joe back, when did it? When

626
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: did it become cool? I don't know when because I

627
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: missed that generation to be disrespectful, right, I don't care

628
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: if somebody only a couple of years old, we were

629
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: It was always yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am.

630
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: No, ma'am.

631
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: We were never allowed to be disrespectful under no circumstance.

632
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 6: Not even kids.

633
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't care, and the parents don't hold them accountable.

634
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: The parents think it's cute too, But little do you know,

635
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: my Grandma's tell me all of times you say, boy,

636
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: you could listen to me on the outside of you're

637
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: listening to somebody on the inside.

638
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: Somebody will tell you what to do sooner or later

639
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: one of the other.

640
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: And one of the things I've I've done great at

641
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: when I tend camps like this and when I'm around

642
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 4: listen when I'm in the inner city obviously where I

643
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: grew up from, and I kind of resonate, and I

644
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: resonate very well with the kids because I adjust to

645
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: how you are. I know, when I'm in that atmosphere,

646
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: simply what camera's in. I'm coming in being like the

647
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: same individual from the field. I'm coming in talking shit

648
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: off jump. I'm coming in talking shit off jump in

649
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: a playful, fun way, playful, fun, competitive way. So don't

650
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: come talking trash about what you're doing. And you like that,

651
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: because if you're not like that, I'm gonna let you

652
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: know right down on the field, you better be that

653
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: boy to be talking the way you talking.

654
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: So I don't.

655
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 5: I don't.

656
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: I understand kind of like what Cam was going through

657
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: in a sense, but I know how to diffuse it

658
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: in a way to where the trash talk is about

659
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: what you're doing out there on the field, because that's

660
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 4: what we're here for.

661
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: Nah, that's what we're here for.

662
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see if you

663
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: really that boy, because I do my talking. I talk

664
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: about I walk it. Oh you do, Oh yeah, you

665
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: gotta do it.

666
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 5: Turn on the tape.

667
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: I trash talk people on my level. I'm there to teach.

668
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: They said, you yeah, okay, I understand, so you you different.

669
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm there to teach as well, but I'm there to

670
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: teach as well along with the trash talk.

671
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: But here, once you start putting on that, now they're

672
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna feel there on your level, and so they feel

673
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: you can handle you on your level. You see, now

674
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: you brought yourself down to their level, to a fifteen

675
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: sixteen year old.

676
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: I want to stay here.

677
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: I want to stay in the adult role, as an

678
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: advisory role, as a respectful role. Like I tell my

679
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: kids all the time that the dynamic of our relationship

680
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: won't ever change.

681
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna be dead, You're always gonna be the child.

682
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: And so we're going to stay at We're going to

683
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: stay in our appropriate roles. Right but the first time,

684
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: And I remember the video where the kid got disrespect

685
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: for the camp.

686
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: At the game, got a fence on the sideline on

687
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: the side, like, yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember.

688
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: I remember because I'm doing this oude of the kindness

689
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: of my heart right right.

690
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: See, you, You and I, You and I a little different.

691
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: We're approaching different, and we operate a little different in

692
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: a controlled environment like that, In a controlled environment like that,

693
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 4: as far as football is concerned. You, I mean, you're

694
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: you're known for trash talking, but my mouth. I do

695
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: my talking before I even walk in. So I kind

696
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: of adjust to the type of players I'm around based

697
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: on the atmosphere I am, even though it's in a

698
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: respectful way, or even if I am teaching and coaching,

699
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 4: I still got to be able to talk way based

700
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: on where I'm at.

701
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: I just oh, tr But harr is the thing, and

702
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, well, you not this, You not that? Okay,

703
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: so what Cam is not Brady? But he still might

704
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: be the best player that you'll ever get an opportunity

705
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: to shake his hand and see personally. And I remember

706
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: when my brother used to have football camps, and you know,

707
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: obviously you know it was I mean we had I

708
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: mean he shut it down many many years ago, but

709
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: you know we had a Barrass Sanders and a Brat

710
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Favre and the Reggie Way.

711
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: All the guys would come.

712
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know when it happened when these young

713
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: kids thought it was okay to be flip at the lip,

714
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: to be disrespectful.

715
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. There's no other way around it.

716
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: And I don't care how what camp, what cam is

717
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: hair look like, how he dresses. The man is taking

718
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: time out of his date to give back, show the

719
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: man some courtesy, showed the man, show the man respect. Yeah,

720
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: that's the problem with ourself. That's the problem. And I

721
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: ain't talking about nobody else. I'm talking about our community

722
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: because that's what we need to address because that's what

723
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: he was out there doing, trying to help that community.

724
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: And you be disrespectful and you've been that way with Kate,

725
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: and I just don't I just don't know why. I

726
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: don't know how but parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts. We

727
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: need to do a better job with these kids, right

728
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: because and then we understand we I don't know why

729
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: they want nobody how that boy or that girl.

730
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

731
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: You know why cause they taught you like you left Dame.

732
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: So if they taught to you, if they see you

733
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: every day, what do you think they doing when they're

734
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: going somebody job?

735
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: What do you think they're doing what they get on

736
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: somebody's job.

737
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: But again, the parent, the coaches, and the parents need

738
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: to understand when someone like Cam Newton gives your player

739
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: it's not even football season, it's not. It gives the

740
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 4: players an opportunity to display their talents and work on

741
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: their craft in the off season. Like this, you got

742
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 4: to pay homage. You got to pay respects to one

743
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: of the best that played our game.

744
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: You have to I show you know what, I tell

745
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: you what you never said. Peyton and Eli have been

746
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: having a camp for twenty something years. You ain't never

747
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: seen no kids be disrespectful to Peyton and Eli. Tell

748
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: tell me the footage. Tell me the footage that you've

749
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: seen out there. Show it to me. When Peyton and

750
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Eli asked these kids or the true reason because a

751
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: lot of times they take up a lot of these

752
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: pro quarterbacks and sometimes upper level college quarterback show me

753
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: the footage. It's sucks because we think it's cute. I

754
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: show a man. I went out there, man. I told

755
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: Cam to shut up. I told him he was trash.

756
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: I told him he would garbage. Y'all think that's cute.

757
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not. And you wonder why I don't.

758
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: I've been stopped wondering, right, It's just it's it's it's embarrassing, Yeah,

759
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really embarrassing that somebody take time out

760
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: of their day, out of their schedule, out of their

761
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: life and try to give back. And you disrespectful, ungrateful man,

762
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: Cam Yojo Cam, wave out of the meat. Yeah, cause

763
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have I don't have patience for my own

764
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: kids to be disrespectful. I been damn if I'm gonna

765
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: let somebody else kids disrespect me and I'm taking time

766
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: out of my those are my blood. I got an

767
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: obligation when they're coming up, but I had an obligation

768
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: to tell them what's right and wrong. And that's always

769
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna be yes, sir, no, sirt. My kids, my kids

770
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: to this day, somebody older than them is yes, sir,

771
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: is no, sir, it's yes, ma'am, no, ma'am right. And

772
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, hey, oh Joe, my kid they might curse.

773
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, daddy, I'm still dead. And I know

774
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: you're grown, but be careful, hey, s ob, don't be

775
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: letting s OB's and more folks coming out to my

776
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: fault kind of hind.

777
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, my kids, my kids curse. I know they curse, obviously,

778
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: they all got damn grown, but they have have yet

779
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: the curse in.

780
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: Front of me yet, the curse in front of me.

781
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: But the thing again, and knowing Cam like I know Cam,

782
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: despite the incident today, despite the disrespect from whatever team

783
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: he had an issue with, He's still gonna put it on.

784
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: He's still going to continue to have those camps to

785
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: allow those kids to showcase their talents and be seen

786
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: to work on their craft to get better. Just knowing

787
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 4: Cam like I do, He's not gonna allow us to bother.

788
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh YOA you know a situation like that, you know

789
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: how it ends?

790
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: You know what normally what normally happened? O, Yoe, what

791
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 1: normally happens O Joe. You remember at the football game

792
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: or keep to Lee brother if you coach boom Now

793
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: he gone away from life? How many times we just

794
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: saw somebody get killed over so bulltime? You know why?

795
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: You know what happened a lot of time with these

796
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: parents situations because the parents didn't do anything.

797
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: They're living vicariously through their.

798
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: Child, their kids.

799
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely they wanted for they wanted for their child.

800
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: For them, I'm living through you, and I feel you

801
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: were harm in my child. You're taking something from my child.

802
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Well it was a call or block, you know, so

803
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: forth and so on. But man, I hate this so

804
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: much because I know, like I said, Cam Da had

805
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years old of me. He went to

806
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: Savannah State. I think I think Cecil graduated like eighty four,

807
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: eighty five. I think I got there. I got there like

808
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: eighty six. Uh so Cecil's probably about five years older

809
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: than me. So if I'm fifty five, ou to be

810
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: fifty six, Cecil gotta be like sixty one, sixty one,

811
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: sixty two tops.

812
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: And so I know it.

813
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: I know Cecil, I knew Cecil, and I know Cam

814
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to get to know Cam. But man,

815
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: I just hate it because because guess what, that's viral,

816
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: and you know, and you know what, people that don't

817
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: look like us saying, we ain't gotta do nothing. Just

818
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: sit back to thisself. We ain't gotta do nothing, that's

819
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: what they're saying. Oh Joe, you, oh Joe, you know

820
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: what they said? Yeah, definitely, And then we get mad

821
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: when they why when you act like that?

822
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: That man given back.

823
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: Ain't gonna stop though. Sham ain't letting this stop him. This,

824
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: this definitely ain't gonna stop him. He gonna, he gonna,

825
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: he gonna keep working with the kids. Man, he gonna

826
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: keep working with him no matter what come hell of

827
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: high water. And I don't understand how anybody Cam Newton

828
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: six five sixty six, six two forty he make the

829
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 4: people he played in the NFL with. Look small, oh, Cam,

830
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: he looks small and he right, what you think you

831
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: finna do with Cam?

832
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 5: Come on now, Cam?

833
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm too I'm too fifty ish three.

834
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Cam two three inches taller than me. Probably got me

835
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: by Cam at least two sixty five right now, Easyim.

836
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: At least two sixty five. I would give two seventy.

837
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 5: Still work out now, you still work out a little

838
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: bit too.

839
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: Now he's not he's not in football shape.

840
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: So Cam Solid, Cam Solid, I was just don'ing force

841
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: to a couple of weeks ago. Cam a big ass man. Yeah,

842
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: and he showed incredible restraint. Yeah he did, because your

843
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: instinct of Ojoe, when somebody's attacking you as attacked.

844
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 5: Back the attack back. Yeah he did.

845
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: He with understanding that they are kids. That they are kids.

846
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure what was said, but again, parents

847
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: and coaches, you got to be able to get a

848
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: hold on your kids, man, you got to.

849
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: You got to, Oh, Joe, you see what did you say?

850
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: Their kids? Yeah? But all of a sudden, they put

851
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: themselves on an adult level. You see you see what

852
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: they did? Yes, sir?

853
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Now see the dynamic wasn't The dynamic should always be this.

854
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: Cam Newton is an adult. Cam Newton's giving back. Cam

855
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: should be here. Why would you ever think you're on

856
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: this level at this point in time? Now, maybe you

857
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: come to the end, maybe you become an NFL player,

858
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: maybe you become great, you win an MVP, winning.

859
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, All Pros and so for the song, But.

860
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: At this time in your life, what makes you think

861
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: I just don't. Like I said, I just grew up

862
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: in a different time in the era my grandfather.

863
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Man.

864
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: Look here, I couldn't I couldn't even imagine the kind

865
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: of ass whipping I would have got, because you know,

866
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: back then, the first of all, the people told your

867
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: tail up and then took your home and say, Mary,

868
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: I had to whip that boy a barne. I had

869
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: to whip that boy. He was saying such and such,

870
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: and then you got even worse when you got home.

871
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: But see, the community used to police it until all

872
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden we got you know, don't put your

873
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: hand on my child. Okay, don't worry. We ain't gonna

874
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: put our hands on him. They got a system that

875
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: will put their hands on him. They'll coat him up. Yeah, nah,

876
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: we're not gonna now, don't put your hands on it.

877
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Don't just a matter of time.

878
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

879
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: Damn Well, hopefully the situation works.

880
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: I cam hanging there, bro, Like I said, you're a

881
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: better man than me, and you've been doing this since

882
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: you since you got to the league. You and your

883
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: dad put this seven on seven on seven on seven

884
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: camp on trying to give back to your community, trying

885
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: to help underprivileged kids. But I wish you the best, bro,

886
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: And you showed tremendous, tremendous restraint in that situation, and

887
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: I wish you all the best, bro, will.

888
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: H Kyle Philipowski.

889
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: Kyle Philipowski heard his Wake far as friends rushed the court.

890
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Duke Star Kyle Philipowski souffer the knee injury doing the

891
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: court storming after Duke Blue Devils lost to the Wake

892
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: Forest demon Deacons.

893
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: The seventh foot well hobbled, was hobbled when he appeared to.

894
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: Bang his right knee his right leg into the leg

895
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: of a fan running by him. Philippowski raised his arm

896
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: as to brace for the potential collision and was spun

897
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: off balance. He said he believes the contact was intentional.

898
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Duke coach called for court storming band look around the country,

899
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark. Something happens and now Flip, I don't know

900
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: what his status is going to be. But one thing

901
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: is when I played, at least it was ten seconds

902
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: you storm the court.

903
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Now the buzzer goes off and they go off and

904
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: running on the floor. What you say, what you think

905
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: about Joe?

906
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 5: You know, you know I don't watch much basketball. You

907
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 5: already know that. But the court storming.

908
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: To me, the court storming on football fields has always

909
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: been a cool thing. I mean, I'm just saying from

910
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: the outside looking at it's just always been cool. The

911
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: excitement to obviously be the team. Probably most of the

912
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: time they do storm the court. You beat a team

913
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 4: when you were the underdog, yes, you know you didn't

914
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: have a chance to win a game. And you know,

915
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 4: college kids storm the court. I'm not sure the extent

916
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: of the young fellaw's injury that plays for Duke.

917
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: Hopefully he's okay.

918
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: But banning court storming, I think it's like somewhat of

919
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 4: an almost like an unwritten rule. I think it's cool.

920
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: Maybe we should have a rule set in place. Wait

921
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: until the opposing team that lost leads the court, then

922
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: you storm it, you know.

923
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: But because I got to run, I gotta let y'all

924
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: see it. That's Duke. Do you understand what Duke represents?

925
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 5: Oh?

926
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: You understand what Carolina in Kentucky they can't man, we

927
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: beat y'all. I ain't let nobody. I need to see

928
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: y'all because I need to laugh it. But see you

929
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: mess around and get the situation with Legarrett Blunt you

930
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: remember when we see we see then he ended up

931
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: get suspended and people looking crazy.

932
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: What you want to do? You cover over in my faith?

933
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: They tell you.

934
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: Now, o Joe, take a take ten minutes, take fifteen

935
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: minutes to cool down.

936
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: Now right after the game, you up about faith a

937
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 2: y'all suck.

938
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 5: Cody right on the chin.

939
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, it's it's that's a tough one. I

940
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: don't want to see court storming, fort storming band or

941
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 4: field storming band in general. I just we we gotta

942
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: find find something, another way, another.

943
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 5: Way to just protect the players.

944
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: I think that's that's what it comes down, protecting the players.

945
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: So allow the now, allow the players to leave the

946
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 4: court first, at least something like that.

947
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: Because think about it said about but them kids just

948
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: have So what do you think the players are? You

949
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: think the adults they're the same age as the kids

950
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: running on the floor right right, right, so you expect

951
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: you expect them. See they've always expected this from athletes.

952
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Athletes have always been supposed to show the restraint, even

953
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: in a situation where we're the same age. A college

954
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: kid is a college student for the most part of

955
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: the same age.

956
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: Age, so one runs on the floor.

957
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's a part of fun, and you show restraint.

958
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: You not in college, you're in an doug right, So

959
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: what would you say? Would you say, Bannitt? I thought

960
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: I thought something was going to take place after the

961
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: La Gary Blunt situation, right, I really did. But it happened,

962
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: and they tried to find them. What did you find them?

963
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: Fifty thousand? Seventy five thousand?

964
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: That ain't nothing to no, no institution on.

965
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: How much did you know?

966
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: I think the SEC each team football team just got

967
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: like fifty million from the college football playoffs and stuff

968
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: like that, which were the you know, and the Big

969
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: Ten about to get probably sixty million. So what's seventy

970
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: five what's one hundred and fifty thousand for two court

971
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: storm and fields? How much they get?

972
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Ash?

973
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying how much did this year

974
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: the SEC teams get for the college football playoff? I

975
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: think they got fifty million, fifty three million per team.

976
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: Honestly to me, as a not a fan of basketball,

977
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: but I like to watch ESPN and just watching sports

978
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 4: and see the fans storm the field.

979
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 5: That's I mean, it looked cool to me.

980
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: I like it.

981
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: I like it, you know, But you do it, do

982
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 4: it in your own own discretion. That's that's what I saw.

983
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh that was that was right, la garytt Le, Garrett Blunt.

984
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: He pushed the player, the player ran up in his face.

985
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't a fan. Yeah, y'all suck, We beat y'all.

986
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: Garrett. I ain't here for that, bro, I ain't here

987
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: for that.

988
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 5: I remember that.

989
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: But but it's it's it's it's uh, you ask it

990
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: awful lot, because you know when most athletes are sore losers, though, Joe,

991
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: you don't get to that level. You don't get to

992
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: that level by being a gracious a gracious loser.

993
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing hurt. It hurts, and the more into it,

994
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: the more it hurts.

995
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it, if you got school

996
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: storming the court and you lose a game, you know

997
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: it was a game of importance, Yes, was the game

998
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: of importance, and you must have been good and you

999
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 4: went down losing and the wrong fan hit you, the

1000
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: wrong fans say the wrong thing. It's just gonna take

1001
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: for one altercation and then they will probably do something

1002
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: about it. But again, controlling an entire student section or

1003
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: college campus from storming the court, that's a.

1004
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 5: That's a tough deal.

1005
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: Especially if the team's rank. But you already know.

1006
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: I mean, when you think of college basketball, you think

1007
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: a Duke, you think of Carolina, think of Kentucky, you

1008
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: think of Kansas. It used to be UCLA, but UCLA

1009
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: hadn't been a top program in a number of number

1010
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: of years. So when you think of the blue bloods,

1011
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: it's those schools, Duke, Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky.

1012
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: Those teams are normally ranked.

1013
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: If I beat you and I'm not ranked, or I'm

1014
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: ranked lord than you, I'm hit in the court.

1015
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 2: That's how I mean, that's how that's how the fans look.

1016
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: At it, right, And I have another another question, and

1017
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: excuse my lack of knowledge for college basketball in general,

1018
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: but to my understanding, women's college basketball at this point

1019
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 4: in time is much better than men's college basketball because

1020
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: of Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark and what they've been

1021
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: able to do. Is that that true or I'm just.

1022
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: I think the thing is that that that networks that

1023
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: put an emphasis on women's college sports, and now it's

1024
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: the players are one and done and the women you

1025
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: can get your hands around, your arm around, because they're.

1026
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: Stayed two years, three years.

1027
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: You see these, You see Caitlyn Clark is debated, where

1028
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: is she gonna come back? Or you see you know

1029
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: Angel Reees, I think she has another year of eligibility.

1030
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: She's gonna come back. It's not like that. It's not

1031
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: like that anymore. The days of the Grand Hills and

1032
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the Tim Duncans staying four years, that's over oja, because

1033
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: if you're that good, the scouts are.

1034
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: Saying, if you're that good, why are you going back? Right? Right?

1035
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: So the women, the women can't do that because Caitlin

1036
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 4: Clark is that good. She was that good last year.

1037
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: So because she left, how she.

1038
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: Is in the w NBA, what the hell you mean?

1039
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Angel Reese is making way more money in nil She's

1040
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: making almost two billion dollars. The most she can make

1041
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: it two fifty. That's if you're a veteran Backs player.

1042
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: She's not gonna get that of the rookie. So why

1043
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: the hell would she go to the w n B

1044
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: A And that's no, that's no knock on the w NB.

1045
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you are Caitlyn Clark or you

1046
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: are Angel Reee, you're one of these top knocked females,

1047
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: you're making more in college than you will in the NBA.

1048
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 5: Are you serious?

1049
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: Yes?

1050
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: Well, they got, they got to they gotta do somebody,

1051
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 5: they gotta change that.

1052
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: Why do you think those women be going overseas to

1053
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: supplement their income?

1054
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 6: O Joe, Oh ship, that's where they have to go.

1055
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: To Russia and all these all these Italy and in

1056
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: China and wherever they have to go. Remember Brittany Grinder,

1057
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: how she got caught up because she got and she

1058
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: can make basically double probably double her income overseas.

1059
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: They thought she came to w n B A.

1060
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 4: So how do we how do we generate her How

1061
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: do we get the women to make not obviously not

1062
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: the type of money that the NBA players make, but

1063
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: to to bridge the gap or to get them a

1064
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: little closer to where they don't have to play overseas.

1065
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: What needs what needs to be done?

1066
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: Man, that's something that the w n B A, the

1067
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: the w n B A, the w the w n

1068
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: B A p A in the n B A, because

1069
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're the clamoring. They don't sell out

1070
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: arenas like the men do, O Joe. The advertising, the

1071
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: sponsor dollars are not there like the men. So you're saying, Okay,

1072
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: let's just say they make ten percent.

1073
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: Well they're not. They're not generating ten percent of the revenue.

1074
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

1075
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean I just I you know, and people like what,

1076
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you the harsh reality of what it is.

1077
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: Right, the fact that the fact that Angel Reese and

1078
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark make more in college than they will in

1079
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 4: the WNBA.

1080
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: Yes, crazy work man.

1081
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean Angel rees I mean I think she

1082
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: said that she make it at one point seven. I

1083
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: think she making like one point seven in nil money.

1084
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean she's gonna have to play like five six

1085
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: years to get that.

1086
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: What.

1087
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I think I think the quarter of

1088
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: a million is the max money that are that are

1089
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: uh but that's for that's for uh uh Asia Wilson,

1090
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: that's for a Steward Breonna. Sure, that's for those, that's

1091
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: for those not ain't for everybody. Can't get that kind

1092
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: of paper.

1093
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: I had no idea those were the numbers that was

1094
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: a revenue that they were making. I had no idea.

1095
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 4: I thought they were making good money. I'm talking about listen,

1096
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 4: not no, no, five year twenty and eighty, but I

1097
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: thought it.

1098
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 5: Was making No. Three four five million something like that.

1099
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: And sometimes the players overseas can make over ten times

1100
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: of what they make here, so that's why they go

1101
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: over there.

1102
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: Well, that's crazy, rightta we gotta.

1103
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: The SEC earned seven hundred and sixty five million from

1104
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: the college football playoffs. I think there's fourteen teams earn

1105
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: their fourteen teams or the twelve fourteen, so.

1106
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: That's at least fifty fourteen. That's at least fifty million.

1107
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: I was.

1108
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: If I my math, that might be fifty three million.

1109
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: Peach fifty three times fourteen is how much ash It

1110
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: better not be fifty three point three or fifty three

1111
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: point four.

1112
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna be mad.

1113
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: Fifty four point six million, so I was off a

1114
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: million dollars eight team.

1115
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 5: Now that's crazy.

1116
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: But see, here's the thing, o Joe.

1117
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: The w NBA also helped supplement the w the w NBA,

1118
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: so the NBA helps supplement them because the sponsorship, the

1119
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: ad dollars.

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00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: Is just not there as the hardest real that's, o Joe.

1121
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: That's the harsh reality of it.

1122
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: Right, women's sports unless you play tennis, and you know,

1123
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Billy Jean and you had Billy Jean was the first

1124
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: to do it, and then you have Venus and Serenas

1125
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: some of the others.

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00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Hold on, right, we want to get paid with the men.

1127
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: If they get three million dollars for a Grand Slam championship,

1128
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: while we got to get one point eight, we want

1129
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: three two.

1130
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1131
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 4: Especially just some of the names that I hear all

1132
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: the time, especially WWNB players.

1133
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 5: I don't watch it often, but the Asia Wilson's.

1134
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: Uh, Breonna Stewart Stewart, Breonna Stewart, like Yelsey Plumb. These

1135
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 4: are names that our household names that I know, and

1136
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: I don't even watch basketball.

1137
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 5: I know them.

1138
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: So I'm expecting because I know their name and I

1139
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: don't even watch the game about I'm expecting them to

1140
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: make the kind of money not within the NBA dudes

1141
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 4: are making, but you know, the four or five million range,

1142
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: because they are household names.

1143
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: Man, that's a that's what bro, you all got.

1144
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 5: They they got to fix that ship.

1145
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: Man, It's called supplying the man.

1146
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, you gotta have to There's a reason why

1147
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: college coaches get paid more than a college professor, because

1148
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: eighty five thousand ain't signed up for a history class.

1149
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 5: I see, I got you, I got you.

1150
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: They're not going to do no science project eighty five

1151
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: thousand coming.

1152
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: To that stadium.

1153
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 5: Damn, that's crazy.

1154
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh, as about to which one Erica Wheeler of the

1155
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Indiana Feeler Indy Anna Fever was the highest played player

1156
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: in the WNBA for twenty twenty three. She had a

1157
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: salary of two hundred and forty two thousand and one

1158
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: fifty four. Now, O Joe, look, that's good money for

1159
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: an average the average person. What's the average salary in America?

1160
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: Probably what say it five thousand, So she's probably making

1161
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: three times what the average person will make. But we

1162
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: just used to hear like we thank professional athlete and

1163
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: we think everybody get t in fifteen to twenty million dollars.

1164
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: If that's not the case, it's it's gonna get that.

1165
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not sure. I'm not sure when, but it's

1166
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: gonna get there at some point.

1167
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: The average the average income from American fifty nine thousand.

1168
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 4: That won't make no sense. That don't make no sense,

1169
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 4: especially as a WNBA player and the work that they

1170
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: have to put in based on some of the shit

1171
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 4: I see on goddamn TV and clips and highlights.

1172
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 5: Man, the mother from could play. They deserve to be

1173
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 5: compensated as such.

1174
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 4: Again, not like the double, not like the NBA players,

1175
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 4: but way more than what forty two to forty two

1176
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 4: shouldn't meet?

1177
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: Man, Now, hold on average sealing fifty nine?

1178
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: How the hell my grandma failed us with one hundred

1179
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars every two weeks?

1180
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: Did? And you talking about why you eat all that?

1181
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: Now?

1182
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: You see why I ate what I eat? O yo

1183
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: and thing?

1184
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 5: You got to think back, it wasn't it wasn't no bone.

1185
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: In rebbies coming across that table.

1186
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know when your grandma, when your grandma was young,

1187
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 4: remember what the price of everything was very very low. Now,

1188
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 4: the price of everything was very low back then.

1189
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, three eight one ninety seven's four

1190
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: that's nine, so three ninety four, three ninety four month.

1191
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: So my grandma brought home forty five hundred dollars a year.

1192
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: You think stuff with that cheap?

1193
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: Back then? Forty five hundred dollars a year cheap? Hell

1194
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: know exactly?

1195
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 5: Damn man, that's crazy man.

1196
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, one ninety seven every two weeks, three ninety four month.

1197
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: You see, it's times like this. It's times like this

1198
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 4: I wish I was a bigger now because I fix

1199
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: the shit. I fix a little situation there.

1200
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: What, oh Joe, you keep saying, But see, here's the thing,

1201
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you do realize how billionaires get to become billionaire.

1202
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: They don't give away their money along the way. They

1203
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: have their name put on buildings that colleges, they have

1204
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: their building, they have their names on the hospitals or

1205
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: hospital floor.

1206
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 4: But I understand that, right, But there has to be

1207
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: some type of plan in place to be able to

1208
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: invest in WNBA teams to make sure they get paid

1209
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: an adequate salary, which many will say, probably argue me

1210
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: down that the salary is adequate, but at least to

1211
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: where they're making in the millions, there has to be

1212
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 4: a way to recoup. Maybe be through advertised, maybe be

1213
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: through sponsors. But making two forty two is not a

1214
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: fuck enough based on what I've been able to see

1215
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: from someone that doesn't even watch the game, on how

1216
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 4: good they are, they need to be compensated much much

1217
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: more than they are.

1218
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, o Jo, when you advertise I

1219
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: need eyeballs. There's a reason why ads called seven point

1220
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: five million for Super Bowl because eyeballs, I can get

1221
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: watch it. Ocho, you under this notion that people want

1222
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: to give away free money.

1223
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: It's not like that.

1224
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: Well I know I'm not under the notion that people

1225
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 4: want to give away free money, because ain't nobody giving

1226
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: away free money. But I would have a plan in

1227
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 4: place to execute the eyeballs to make sure they.

1228
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 5: Watching listen.

1229
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: What they don't want to watch.

1230
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 5: You got to make it more exciting.

1231
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: How white supply and women? These women are as skilled

1232
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: as they've ever been.

1233
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: And I go, I go back to it when when

1234
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: women when La Tech won the first two, and then

1235
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Cheryl Miller, and then and and and uh Clarissa Davis

1236
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: to Texas team. I go way back then Kim Walke,

1237
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: the Baylor coach. Now she l s U she was

1238
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: on the first n A championship team would lock at

1239
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: the team that's the one she'd be dressing fly, Yeah,

1240
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: if that's what you want to call it.

1241
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, she'd be flying. She like, I.

1242
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: Remember all that when when the USC with Pam and

1243
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: Paula McGee and Cheryl Miller and sit there Cooper.

1244
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: So I go back, and the.

1245
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Women now are as skilled at at any point in time.

1246
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 5: Better better, better, They're better.

1247
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: There was not even a league when those women they

1248
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: had to go overseas.

1249
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't had no choice, right And the fact

1250
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: that they have to go overseas that made that that

1251
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: even lets you know that some things need to be

1252
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: to be put in place. I don't have a plan

1253
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 4: right now because I'm just sitting here talking with you.

1254
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: I'm just saying if I was in a position to power,

1255
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: there would be something that I want to do to

1256
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: keep my girls home playing here in the States. But look,

1257
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: you see you see Agent Wilson play.

1258
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just she was at the UH.

1259
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: She was only a losing side. She left handed, she

1260
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: was on the losing side. She was a she was

1261
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: an assistant coach with Stephen A. Yeah, me and Pitty

1262
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: did that number on him. Yeah she's good.

1263
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody like that.

1264
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 4: She's supposed to be making three four, five million, easy,

1265
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: no questions.

1266
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: I saw her, Chelsea Gray, Kelsey, Plumb, all of them

1267
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: were sitting on I just want y'all to know Aja, Asia, Asia, Kelsey, Chelsea,

1268
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: y'all was sitting on the losing side. Next time you

1269
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: better come on down on side because y'all know I'll

1270
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: be doing that thing.

1271
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: I'll be dia grabbing the plates. You know what I say?

1272
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 4: Oh, that's crazy, man that I ain't know that man,

1273
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 4: fuck sorright, sorry, some other things.

1274
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 5: I'm fixing the world. Man, as soon as I'm president.

1275
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: You don't want people digging on yoke.

1276
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: Well they could did, because you know, I live my life.

1277
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: I don't live my life private. I do everything in public,

1278
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 4: ain't I.

1279
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: Promise you got some stuff? You done some stuff you

1280
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: don't want people to know. Everybody had everybody hands with you.

1281
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: It's okay, everybody, did you hear.

1282
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: What I just said?

1283
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: No, you live your life private. You live your life publicly.

1284
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: Now.

1285
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 6: Oh I always have okay, always, okay, always.

1286
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: That's a pressure cooker.

1287
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 5: I like pressure cookers and I like pressure Okay.

1288
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: So when I when I run for office, you already

1289
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 4: know what time it is, and when I win, you

1290
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 4: can be my vice president.

1291
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: Noah, hell no, nobody, nobody he did.

1292
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: You ain't running for nothing. I ain't running nothing but

1293
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: my mouth.

1294
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: And that's the problem because if you look at some

1295
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: of the people that's already been in the office and

1296
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 4: about digging up Oh, we don't think about this.

1297
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: Think about how people oh Joe, I got a little podcast.

1298
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: Think about how people covered at me. Can you imagine

1299
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: about VP? President? How a House of Representative? But can

1300
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: you imagine?

1301
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 6: I got you?

1302
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 5: Though I'm the president, I guess I want no part

1303
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 5: of that.

1304
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: Bro, I got you. Hm.

1305
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 4: Can you add to me the state of the state

1306
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Speaker 4: of the address? Oh man, I'll be sure. State of Union, yeah, union, yeah,

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Speaker 4: boy boy.

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Speaker 2: You know I could talk.

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Speaker 4: I could talk now, depending on the environment I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I can switch up real quick, like I hit a

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Speaker 4: hit a switch.

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Speaker 2: I don't want no part of that, But you go out.

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Speaker 2: I wish you the best.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that.