Speaker 1: Of the law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 2: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 2: vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.
Speaker 3: These are our stories, done done.
Speaker 2: Helloooo, this is thats messed up. An SVU podcast.
Speaker 1: I am Lisa and I am Kara, and every week
Speaker 1: we pick an episode of SVU to dissect as well
Speaker 1: as the true crime it was based on, as well
Speaker 1: as talking to an actor from that episode. Today's no different.
Speaker 1: We got a hot one for you. But first we
Speaker 1: like to catch up.
Speaker 4: We like to chat. We like to talk about the world,
Speaker 4: our lives, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I mean, my life is very, very small, and if
Speaker 2: I go even one now we're not talking about vander Pomp,
Speaker 2: I feel like I deserve a gold medal. Like that's
Speaker 2: Unfortunately where I'm at is Bravo, Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo, Bob, Bravo, Bravo,
Speaker 2: fucking bravo.
Speaker 1: Lisa and I were in a are in a text
Speaker 1: chain with like four or five other friends that we
Speaker 1: started it just about scandaval and I was like, this
Speaker 1: will maybe like be every couple days or whatever. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's like every day we all have updates, everyone's putting
Speaker 1: in what they find on the internet.
Speaker 4: It is truly. I mean this. You guys know, we're
Speaker 4: always in the time machine.
Speaker 2: So by maybe by now, no, by now, we'll be
Speaker 2: in the throes of the reunion.
Speaker 4: We'll have even more to talk about.
Speaker 1: But I've never been more upset that my comedy show
Speaker 1: is on Wednesdays because now I can never fucking watch
Speaker 1: it live and I just have to avoid the Internet
Speaker 1: for a day.
Speaker 4: But we're do cocaine and watch it all night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, that's what that's my that's right in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: We would love to talk to you about the scandaval
Speaker 1: in person, So why don't you come and see us live.
Speaker 1: We are going out on the road in June, starting
Speaker 1: in two days this coming Thursday, June eighth. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be at Cobbs in San Francisco. That was one of
Speaker 1: our most fun shows last year. Please come back out,
Speaker 1: new episode, new games, new everything. So I mean, same us,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think that's what you like, So
Speaker 1: come out and see us. There's tickets available. All of
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Speaker 1: the following week we'll be in Tempe, Arizona at the
Speaker 1: Tempi Improv And at the end of the month, on
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth, we'll be in Denver at Comedy Works,
Speaker 1: another amazing club, and we will be at.
Speaker 2: The Bourbon Room in La on the twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: Guys, if you live in La, I know you guys
Speaker 1: are homebodies. I know that's kind of the vibe of
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Speaker 1: us at the Bourbon Room. We need you there. And
Speaker 1: that's that. That's messed uplive dot com.
Speaker 2: No right, yeah, and I'm on the road doing stand
Speaker 2: up if you care, I have a link tree.
Speaker 4: I guess websites are out. I don't know. Websites are out,
Speaker 4: business cards are out.
Speaker 1: Here's the here's the secret. I buy that's messed uplive
Speaker 1: dot com. I pay for it, but it goes to
Speaker 1: a link tree. So really it's not a website. I
Speaker 1: mean it is a website, but it takes you to
Speaker 1: a very convenient link tree that takes you to all
Speaker 1: of the different you know, ticketing things, takes you to
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Speaker 1: coming but I feel like we're not allowed to like
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Speaker 1: we have new shit coming in. And you can also
Speaker 1: check out Liza's website. Link is linked there, like there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of shit linked on our link tree, but
Speaker 1: it's that's messed up live dot com. I would also
Speaker 1: before we get into more catching up about our specific lives,
Speaker 1: I would like to just give a quick shout out
Speaker 1: to my cousin, My cousin Sebastian, who we call Bash
Speaker 1: and apparently he's going full Madonna and just going by
Speaker 1: Bash now. He has an amazing Instagram and website called
Speaker 1: Historical Homos, and it's all about history and like the
Speaker 1: role of the LGBTQ community throughout history and all these stories.
Speaker 1: It's like basically it says, welcome to the gayest stories
Speaker 1: Never told. And he is launching a podcast. It's starting
Speaker 1: up this week, I think June ninth, But you can
Speaker 1: go right now and subscribe to Historical Homos on Apple
Speaker 1: or wherever you get podcasts, and that way it'll just
Speaker 1: pop into your feet on the day that it comes out.
Speaker 1: But he's my little cousin.
Speaker 4: I love him. I have known him his entire life
Speaker 4: and I just want to support him. So if you're.
Speaker 1: Interested in history at all, or like two really funny
Speaker 1: guys telling you about like gay history, then this is
Speaker 1: the pod for you.
Speaker 4: And I'm not getting paid well.
Speaker 2: And speaking of websites, I just got on it great websites,
Speaker 2: so maybe websites are in. And on the cookie thing,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like yadeyada, we use cookies their little
Speaker 2: square instead of accept or deny says got it, shut up?
Speaker 1: That's cool. I can't believe they Yeah, we're able to
Speaker 1: figure that out. Bash is like my brother. He's so
Speaker 1: funny and I just want to give a little shout
Speaker 1: out to him. There's like, there's a book of historical
Speaker 1: homos that's like a beautiful coffee table book. But there's
Speaker 1: also this in that's very funny and educational and the
Speaker 1: podcast is going to be amazing, So go subscribe, Liza.
Speaker 1: What else is going on besides fucking vander Pump that
Speaker 1: feels like the majority?
Speaker 4: Oh, I would tell you.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I went to a performance that Rosie did for school.
Speaker 1: It was a musical performance and at the very beginning,
Speaker 1: she was killing it, Like the music teacher kept going
Speaker 1: what's this and Rosie would be.
Speaker 4: Like, it's a you guleley? How many strings?
Speaker 5: For?
Speaker 4: Like she knew everything.
Speaker 1: She was being so great, but then she really focused
Speaker 1: in on me, like she saw me because there was
Speaker 1: two rows of parents. It's not a big room, and
Speaker 1: she just started like hamming it up and going fucking nuts.
Speaker 4: It was crazy. I had to keep going calmed down, comped.
Speaker 4: I had to keep like.
Speaker 1: Making sign language and her to like calm her body.
Speaker 1: But she just went nuts. And everybody is like, what
Speaker 1: a natural performer, And I was like, this is not and.
Speaker 4: What does nuts entail?
Speaker 2: Funny faces, funny fasis spinning.
Speaker 1: Around periodic like yips and yelps and screams.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Just there was another kid there kind of hyping her up,
Speaker 1: and like once he got going, she was like, yes
Speaker 1: this week and do whatever we want, like and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just don't know what to do. I
Speaker 1: feel like she's gonna be a little performer. She's such
Speaker 1: a ham. She loves to get laughs from people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great news.
Speaker 2: I always like the videos online of like parents showing up.
Speaker 2: It matters and it's like a little boy looking for
Speaker 2: his parents and he's depressed and then he sees a
Speaker 2: parent and like truly shines.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember, like my mom worked a lot and she
Speaker 1: couldn't come to everything. But like I do remember, like
Speaker 1: my mom wore one of those big puffy coats with
Speaker 1: like a fur hood like and I remember seeing her
Speaker 1: little fur hood like bobbing through the audience and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: my mom came because like she could barely ever come
Speaker 1: to anything, and yeah, I want to go to her stuff.
Speaker 4: My husband couldn't go.
Speaker 1: Because you heard it here first, he finally got a vasectomy.
Speaker 4: We're done, everyone.
Speaker 1: The factory, the baby fact making factory is closed over
Speaker 1: at my house and I'm excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shut down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't go sit on a super tiny little
Speaker 1: kid chair and watch our daughter freak out.
Speaker 4: So I went alone.
Speaker 2: So was it a performance show or was it like
Speaker 2: name this instrument?
Speaker 4: And then they they.
Speaker 1: Did, they sang songs, they like they did all this
Speaker 1: stuff with their their teacher, but like their music teacher
Speaker 1: was leading it. So it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: call and response with their music teacher. But I could
Speaker 1: feel parents keep looking at me to be like, look
Speaker 1: at her.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean to.
Speaker 1: Like give me, and I think most of them know that,
Speaker 1: like I'm in the I'm in the arts, so I feel.
Speaker 4: Like they were all like look at this.
Speaker 2: But speaking of performances, Miley Cyrus did an interview with
Speaker 2: British Vogue beautiful photo shoot with Stephen Misel, but she
Speaker 2: said she doesn't want to tour and has no interest
Speaker 2: in touring. And I've been calling that for a while.
Speaker 2: I said she's not and she had to put out
Speaker 2: a statement like a like a notepad apology on her
Speaker 2: notes app on her Instagram because the fans went nuts.
Speaker 2: You know, the fans are like, you don't care about us,
Speaker 2: because you know you don't. You're not here for us,
Speaker 2: We support you. Why how dare you not connect with us?
Speaker 2: And She's just like I don't wanna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's also like you don't own these people,
Speaker 1: like you don't own your heroes.
Speaker 2: Oh no, if you want to have a good time
Speaker 2: and take a deep dive into mental illness, I would
Speaker 2: look into the comments of the notes app. It's just
Speaker 2: people truly like we'll forgive you this time, but I
Speaker 2: don't understand you're making excuses and we do this and
Speaker 2: no press nothing. You just dropped an album and that's that,
Speaker 2: And it's like, who are It's really confusing. She's She's
Speaker 2: just straight up like, I don't want to live on
Speaker 2: a bus. I don't want to travel NonStop, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to perform for huge crowds. That's not really
Speaker 2: my vibe at the moment. It can always change, but like,
Speaker 2: and the outfits I want to wear don't fold well,
Speaker 2: And well, why don't you do a residency?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you. Would she
Speaker 4: ever do a residency? I don't know. If I have,
Speaker 4: I'll you know.
Speaker 1: When you talk, because I feel like that would be
Speaker 1: really cool if she could pick like a super cool
Speaker 1: she could pick a super cool, like small venue, and
Speaker 1: it would just be like whoever gets tickets gets tickets,
Speaker 1: you know, like it doesn't have to be like a
Speaker 1: Vegas like Caesar's thing, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think people realize like she was
Speaker 2: selling out stadiums before she was sixteen, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she has been touring for a really long time.
Speaker 4: Her last sore was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: But they say that's where all the money is like,
Speaker 1: don't they say that's like really, where the artists make
Speaker 1: the money is like through the touring.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's why she's so cool.
Speaker 2: She doesn't need money and she's not she's not beholden
Speaker 2: to anyone. She truly is an artist and does whatever
Speaker 2: she wants whenever she wants. I mean, during her flaming lips,
Speaker 2: you know, happy hipp vibes she was, she released the free.
Speaker 4: Album on SoundCloud. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: She she does is She's not part of the machine.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have to be. She truly is guided by Dolly.
Speaker 2: But you're convincing me to follow her right now. I
Speaker 2: can't believe.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and she just did like Vogue like my
Speaker 2: life and looks, and she just loves fashion in her
Speaker 2: crew and she's making music and she doesn't have to
Speaker 2: do anything, and that's what's cool. And obviously I think
Speaker 2: everyone just compares everyone to Taylor Swift and like how
Speaker 2: much Taylor get three hour concerts for the fans and
Speaker 2: that's amazing. But everyone is different and it's cool that
Speaker 2: my hat. I'm mad, I'm upset. I want to see
Speaker 2: her live. I would love to.
Speaker 1: I think Taylor's doing it for money as well. And
Speaker 1: it's like, if it was about connecting with the fans,
Speaker 1: she would sell all the tickets for fifty dollars, Like
Speaker 1: they're one thousand dollars per fucking ticket.
Speaker 4: They're so hard to get, Like, I don't know, is.
Speaker 1: It really about just like connecting with the fans. It's
Speaker 1: a business.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Amy Schumer did an interview this past year before her
Speaker 2: tour and she said that she was going to make
Speaker 2: around ten million from her stand up tour, and the
Speaker 2: interviewer was like, wait, wait what or something, and she goes,
Speaker 2: did you think it was for the love of comedy?
Speaker 4: Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like Pearl Jam back in the nineties liked went to
Speaker 1: war with ticket Master because they were like, we want
Speaker 1: our tickets to be twenty dollars, because they were about
Speaker 1: in it for that, Like they were not in it
Speaker 1: for that reason, like the money, you know, No, the price. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not here to make fun of Taylor. Please
Speaker 1: nobody come for us about that. I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: is a business, Like I don't think that they're just
Speaker 1: purely out there to be like got to connect with
Speaker 1: the fans. Aren't she doing meet and greets like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much connection it is. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like most of you can only afford a ticket where
Speaker 1: she looks like a tiny ant you're watching it on
Speaker 1: a screen.
Speaker 2: Well, it's so much the parasocial thing of it all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we kind of invent what we want about the people.
Speaker 2: Like I guess I can think that Miley is doing
Speaker 2: things for me, but I think that's what's cool about
Speaker 2: her is it's.
Speaker 4: What she wants to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and touring is hard, and if you don't have
Speaker 2: to do something you don't want to do, I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. My favorite thing is but a
Speaker 4: full apology. Look how.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing is the outfits I want to wear
Speaker 1: don't fold. That's like so funny to me because like Miley,
Speaker 1: Cyrus makes enough money that, like her outfits could be
Speaker 1: on a rack, like in their own bus, like going
Speaker 1: across the country, you know what I mean, like in
Speaker 1: a truck, fully hanging, never folded.
Speaker 2: But that's a funny. Try working a nine to five
Speaker 2: like many of your fans do. They don't make millions
Speaker 2: like you, but we would still paid excessive amounts.
Speaker 4: Too bad.
Speaker 2: Your reason for touring is simply because you don't want
Speaker 2: to change in a locker and sleep on a tour bus.
Speaker 4: Poor you.
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, I don't know why you think
Speaker 2: she just the sacrifice.
Speaker 4: I I don't really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you come home and you go to
Speaker 1: bed in a bed, and you get your rest time
Speaker 1: and you get your free time. You don't get that
Speaker 1: when you're touring city to city and you're sleeping on
Speaker 1: a fucking moving bus.
Speaker 4: Like I don't know that. Like to me, this is apples.
Speaker 1: To Orange is talking about how your your job is
Speaker 1: just as hard as her job or whatever, like they're
Speaker 1: they're hard in different ways.
Speaker 2: I love you to pieces truly, but I'm very disappointed.
Speaker 2: Feels very privileged to just exit out. It's like she's
Speaker 2: she could come back, Like I don't know. But Kylie
Speaker 2: sonic Love wrote I love you, baby girl, which reminds me,
Speaker 2: and we can we'll start soon. But I watch the
Speaker 2: pit stop and Beyonca mentioned like a wild night in
Speaker 2: Palm Springs where so Kylie's Sonic Love, Bianca and Miley
Speaker 2: were hanging out at Bianca's house having a little tequila.
Speaker 4: Oh fun, and I knew they were friends and that
Speaker 4: she was such a big Drag Race fan.
Speaker 2: But I love that they're drinking tequila and palm springs together.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Miley, I think is one of the only celebrities I
Speaker 1: will say, who fucking like when she's like I love drag,
Speaker 1: she like means it, like she's not just like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun, like oh I love RuPaul and like we
Speaker 1: did a project together and whatever.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like Miley went on Rogan and.
Speaker 2: Like defended fucking drag and like she is about it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she loves it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the residency maybe I don't know. I guess
Speaker 2: she wants to do a residency. Do a residency. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's it's gonna be crazy to get it. I also
Speaker 2: understand like not feeling safe with like shootings and bombs
Speaker 2: going off at concerts like that happened at an Ariana
Speaker 2: Grande concert, Like I could, you know, I can understand
Speaker 2: just being like I don't really feel like taking this
Speaker 2: risk right now of like being up on a stage
Speaker 2: in front of in front of fans that would tear
Speaker 2: me apart for choosing my mental health over doing a tour. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think the interviewer told her like Olivia Newton
Speaker 2: John didn't tour for sixteen years, and then once she
Speaker 2: could do smaller venues, not at her peak, she did
Speaker 2: and she loved it, you know.
Speaker 4: I it's just.
Speaker 2: I love the concerts and small values, but I would
Speaker 2: love to see my ley. I'm with all these people,
Speaker 2: but I don't understand the ownership or the demand or
Speaker 2: like thinking you're entitled for her to do this. Of course,
Speaker 2: she's making so much lovely music for us, looking sexy
Speaker 2: as a fuck, Like what what.
Speaker 4: Do you guys want?
Speaker 2: But I watched her vogue My Life and looks three times.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's you know. I miss her too, got you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're giving her the clicks, you're giving her the love.
Speaker 1: Let's get started, because oh my god, this is a
Speaker 1: perfect segue talking about pop stars and fame into today's episode.
Speaker 1: We don't even mean to do this. Wow, this is wild. Guys,
Speaker 1: stay where you are, We're about to start.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are doing diss which is funny, but season
Speaker 2: twenty episodes too, so is this one.
Speaker 4: Our friend Warren Light was not working on the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was noticing that because they're all I think
Speaker 1: he comes back in twenty one because twenty one is
Speaker 1: where the names get big again.
Speaker 2: And you know, with the title diss it is unfortunate
Speaker 2: that Christopher Maloney isn't here to bring up his black scent,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I'm really sad we
Speaker 2: don't have Maloney saying this all thing. Yeah, she said
Speaker 2: your wang's no big thing, so that you know, we're
Speaker 2: starting on a sad note in terms of people speaking
Speaker 2: black when they're not.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's how you say it.
Speaker 2: But also air date May second, so that's my niece's
Speaker 2: birthday and Alex Crawley, my friend.
Speaker 4: So shout out.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Taurus queens. So we open this episode, no,
Speaker 2: we're noise of cop cars driving on an empty street
Speaker 2: under a bridge in the city, and we hear a
Speaker 2: damn it in a woman's voice put over her car
Speaker 2: and she gives herself a little pep talk. She's like, okay, girl,
Speaker 2: be cool, be cool. The cop approaches the car and
Speaker 2: she shouts, I know, officer, I forgot to signal, which
Speaker 2: my father, you never admit anything to the cops. This
Speaker 2: is that's a mistake. You don't give him any anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he asks have you been drinking. She answers no,
Speaker 2: but he still makes her get out of the car,
Speaker 2: and she's like seriously, and he demands she gets out
Speaker 2: while a flashlight glows in her face. She is black,
Speaker 2: so obviously this is intense. She's dressed in a green
Speaker 2: glitter short dress, long sleeves, low cut. Her lips have
Speaker 2: a bold color on them, so it looks like she
Speaker 2: had a fancy night, maybe participated in a ballroom dance competition.
Speaker 2: That's the vibe I get. It gets serious fast. They
Speaker 2: bend her over onto the car, slam her on the hood.
Speaker 2: She breathes heavily and then says, if you boys want
Speaker 2: to have some fun at least look, let me look
Speaker 2: at you.
Speaker 4: And so the cop is like, what did I tell you?
Speaker 2: And so then she turns around and she kneeds him
Speaker 2: in the dick, takes his gun, points it at the
Speaker 2: other like the other you know cop.
Speaker 4: There's two cops.
Speaker 2: Demands his gun, which he hands over, and she has
Speaker 2: both arms straight out with a gun in each hand.
Speaker 2: It's pretty hot but dangerous, and she's in her lime
Speaker 2: green glitter dress. She makes them get all the way
Speaker 2: down and lay down on the ground, and that's when
Speaker 2: we realize it's a music video.
Speaker 4: Lol.
Speaker 2: A perfect opening for an SVU though, because this is
Speaker 2: absolutely how an SVU could start. And then it's just
Speaker 2: like one hundred drop the beat. I was not expecting it.
Speaker 2: So there's sexy dancing explosions. It's a song. The song
Speaker 2: is called fire gyrating glitter boots. Close ups dance scenes.
Speaker 2: She's posing with the gun and we hear cut and
Speaker 2: both are and the director really happy with the shot.
Speaker 2: One and done, one take wonder and he's all about
Speaker 2: the sex appeal.
Speaker 4: He's like, this video's hot as fuck.
Speaker 2: And she's like and it's about BLM and me too,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't care. And then we meet
Speaker 2: a daughter and she's she's my kind of girl. Right away,
Speaker 2: she goes, can we go to Dave and Busters now?
Speaker 2: So I love her. The mom's like, we can't. You know,
Speaker 2: daddy has a concert tonight, and the girl's like, fuck that,
Speaker 2: I want to go to d and B. So a
Speaker 2: person I assume is on the payroll, a young man,
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, I'll stay with her, I'll take her,
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh thanks, Wallace. Then our main superstar
Speaker 2: sees that Venetia is performing on Snake's concert tonight. Not
Speaker 2: happy about it, so she asks Wallace, like, hey, can
Speaker 2: you drop me off at home first and then you
Speaker 2: guys can go to Dave and Busters.
Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, she can't go to Dave and Busters.
Speaker 4: She'll be mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, she thanks the cop actors. She
Speaker 2: is a professional, kind, benevolent, amazing superstar. We cut to
Speaker 2: Wallace and the girl coming home. No prizes, so I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck. But then she's saving up her tickets
Speaker 2: for a big ticket item. No, I see she's eating something.
Speaker 2: I think she got the candy prizes, so that's good.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure she's not even impressed with the toys.
Speaker 2: She's you know, she's a two Superstars kid. But Wallace
Speaker 2: right away sees something's up, like the door is open
Speaker 2: and he he's like, holds up, Lexis, something's up. But
Speaker 2: then he makes her enter first, like he follows the
Speaker 2: child into the dangerous situation, which was very funny to me.
Speaker 2: But then before he actually enters the apartment in the foyer,
Speaker 2: he leaves Lexi. He calls for Dallas, are you okay?
Speaker 2: And so our girl's name is Dallas, and he's creeping
Speaker 2: in the dark, Dallas, Dallas. The room is disheveled, he's
Speaker 2: getting nervous, and then we see she's splayed out on
Speaker 2: the ground out cold blood all around her head, staining
Speaker 2: the white carpet. Lil Lexi runs in and yells, mommy, mommy.
Speaker 4: Fuck. The media acts fast.
Speaker 2: Dozens of photographers are there, ready to snap shots as
Speaker 2: the paramedics take Dallas out in a stretcher with a
Speaker 2: full neck brace, and IT'SO and Benson and Rollins are
Speaker 2: on the scene.
Speaker 4: They're in shock. Benson's like, is that really her?
Speaker 2: She's starstruck, she can't believe it, and Rollins is like,
Speaker 2: she fought back, maybe she shouldn't have. And of course
Speaker 2: Rollins is blaming a woman always always, do you know
Speaker 2: what in terms of scanned of All, I bet she
Speaker 2: would say Arianna deserved it.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: Just before we came on to record.
Speaker 2: This, I was rewatching a favorite of yours, the video
Speaker 2: where Ariana's.
Speaker 4: Like, this is my birthday and my dad's.
Speaker 2: Dead, and sand of All is like, I get it,
Speaker 2: but we rented a bulldozer.
Speaker 4: Trucks, Babe, I got it.
Speaker 2: And so of course I read the comments, and I'm
Speaker 2: in the comments and there are people being like, she's
Speaker 2: always cross, she's manipulative, she should this that, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I wrote something on someone's I go, I hope one
Speaker 2: day you have someone that chooses your pain over a
Speaker 2: construction park. That's you could like, I want to know
Speaker 2: what the what's if they're just trolls or if these
Speaker 2: people's lives are that sad? Yeah, like that you think
Speaker 2: it's manipulative to ask for someone to support you as
Speaker 2: you're grieving on your birthday, Like I don't, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just crazy how many comments
Speaker 2: were like she's so annoying? Why is she always them sad?
Speaker 2: Your dad's been dead for years, get over it. The
Speaker 2: comments are always shocking. I'm always like, we're all together
Speaker 2: on this, right, No, we're not. None of us are
Speaker 2: together on anything. I just hope they're trolls. I just
Speaker 2: hope they're trolls. Or maybe we should be like Swarm
Speaker 2: the TV show and we can go I'll kill all
Speaker 2: these people with main comments about our riata. It's really good.
Speaker 2: I think you should watch it. I'm going to well
Speaker 2: with this writer strike. I'm gonna need to I'm gonna
Speaker 2: watch everything I've ever said I would watch for you.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Rollin's blaming the woman.
Speaker 2: I guess she should have sat and taken it, according
Speaker 2: to Rollins, and I bet she would have been like
Speaker 2: why didn't she fight back?
Speaker 4: It's like insane.
Speaker 2: We find out that she has bleeding behind her ears,
Speaker 2: possible skull fracture.
Speaker 4: She was hit multiple times in the head.
Speaker 2: Benson asked, if she was raped, we'll see rape, you know,
Speaker 2: we got to wait for the rape kit, but her
Speaker 2: robe was ripped open. And then now we have a
Speaker 2: delivery boy witness and he heard someone say it was
Speaker 2: snake in Dallas, so he hung around and Creasey's questioning him.
Speaker 2: It was dark out, and Creasey's like, whoa, I love
Speaker 2: that mongoose bike. I'm sure that's not going to come back,
Speaker 2: and sends the kid off, and Benson asked if he
Speaker 2: gave him anything on Creasy He's like, ah, no, just
Speaker 2: the lookie Lou And then they commiserate how much they
Speaker 2: hate celebrity cases. And so it's ten Grammy, he's twenty
Speaker 2: five nominations. The press is asking if it was snake,
Speaker 2: and the detectives enter the house. Everyone is out and
Speaker 2: about dusting, searching for evidence. They find a glock. It
Speaker 2: could have been the victims. There's no sign of force entry,
Speaker 2: I says as he walks in. And he also said
Speaker 2: that the security cameras were hacked last week and the
Speaker 2: security system was off, so strange for such rich icons,
Speaker 2: you know. Rollins rules in to inform the group. Another
Speaker 2: witness says they got into a big fight recently and
Speaker 2: Finn is like, no way he would do this, and
Speaker 2: Creasey informs him there were two domestic disputes at this
Speaker 2: address last month.
Speaker 4: But where is Snake now?
Speaker 2: He's doing a concert at the Apollo, which is not
Speaker 2: really a giant venue.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if you know where nobody. I wonder
Speaker 1: if to pop up. Yeah, I wonder if just doing
Speaker 1: it because it's iconic, like, I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: think he would have already done it, So that's what
Speaker 1: I mean. I wonder if it was just like a
Speaker 1: quick pop up show, yeah, or he's you know, at
Speaker 1: that level. I don't know, but it seemed like they
Speaker 1: were both kind of superstars. Yeah, the Apollo is cool,
Speaker 1: No knock onto the Apollo. Yes, it just gives clues
Speaker 1: as to what's going on. Actually, have you been in
Speaker 1: I've never been into it never. I don't know how
Speaker 1: big it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna guess three thousand. Let's see. I'm gonna yeah,
Speaker 4: certainly not MSG for sure, I do. I guess no.
Speaker 1: I would say I'll do prices right and say twyne
Speaker 1: and ninety nine.
Speaker 4: We're both over fifteen hundred. Wow, So yeaho it.
Speaker 2: I mean it's gorgeous, it's really pretty.
Speaker 4: It's really pretty. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool that they do.
Speaker 4: It's cool that they shoot there too.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So we're at the Apollo Sorry, but you know
Speaker 2: we we love Vedyas.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So a concert's happening and it's a Kanye vibe of song,
Speaker 2: I would say, And there she is Venetia singing her
Speaker 2: slut ass off and I love this song, like I'm
Speaker 2: really into this fake Kanye song. And Fake Kanye is
Speaker 2: played by Orlando Jones. And then from the corner we
Speaker 2: see Finn off stage side stage, and Orlando Jones knows him,
Speaker 2: so fake Kanye. Orlando's like Finn, oh my god. And
Speaker 2: then Finn gets a full shout out to all the audience.
Speaker 2: He's like Manhattan's own and Orlando Jones that end quote
Speaker 2: otafin tutuola baby Harlem's own and Cariese is confused, angealous,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't get what's happening, and he makes Finn
Speaker 2: come out, calls him family, and then Finn whispers into
Speaker 2: his ear and Orlando looks stunned. He says, shows over
Speaker 2: family emergency and walks off, and they run off and
Speaker 2: we head to the credits.
Speaker 4: Finally, Jesus, So when I wait?
Speaker 1: I just want to say, when I was like researching
Speaker 1: this episode for the crime part, I ended up on
Speaker 1: like a Reddit thread discussion of the episode, and like
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to know what the song was. Everyone was like,
Speaker 1: what's the song that he's singing with Venetia?
Speaker 4: Like everybody loves it.
Speaker 1: So SVU needs to like release some of this fake
Speaker 1: music that's on their show.
Speaker 2: But also put out a CD. Yeah, so I know
Speaker 2: Orlando Jones from Mad TV? Or is he anything else
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 4: Seven up?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Make seven up yours baby? Yes? I had the T.
Speaker 2: Shirt really, yes, somebody gave it to me like a
Speaker 2: bit T shirt in college and said make.
Speaker 4: Seven up yours.
Speaker 1: I thought those commercials were so funny for some reason.
Speaker 1: They really tickled me in the right time of my life.
Speaker 1: I guess when I was like nineteen and they came out,
Speaker 1: I thought they were so hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I did look and he was in
Speaker 2: office space. He sold the magazines to them. Oh, the
Speaker 2: magazine subscriptions. It really is one of the best movies.
Speaker 2: It's so good a hit.
Speaker 4: It's a hit baby, so okay, we're back.
Speaker 2: It's you know, so in the credits, though, I never
Speaker 2: really noticed Peter's photo and he's standing by like a
Speaker 2: train as a train, you know, flies forward, and I
Speaker 2: really like that. I think that would have been my
Speaker 2: choice for photo. Like do you ever think about like
Speaker 2: what your SNL photo would be.
Speaker 4: At the beginning? I've thought about it. I guess I've
Speaker 4: thought about it, but.
Speaker 2: I know this careesy choice or Scanavino, Like I wonder
Speaker 2: if they got to decide, Yeah, like I would probably
Speaker 2: just be like hailing a cab and being like, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: it's you hi, you know, like to the camera.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I gotta like look at the
Speaker 1: credits again. I feel like I didn't even notice this.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I mean. I never noticed it either,
Speaker 2: But I liked it. I like the way he looked,
Speaker 2: so yeah, we're back and we're just leaving the concert
Speaker 2: no time, no time lapses, and Cariese's walking asking, like
Speaker 2: Finn how they know each other, as mobs of cameras
Speaker 2: and people are trying to get a peek, and Finn
Speaker 2: explains that their moms were best friends, so they're childhood friends.
Speaker 2: Carisy has but her because he didn't get a.
Speaker 4: Heads up about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Orlando's in the limo and it's big as hell,
Speaker 2: and he thanks Finn for coming down personally, and Cariese's
Speaker 2: dumb ass is like, well, we have some questions for you,
Speaker 2: and Orlando's like, who the fuck is this and ignores
Speaker 2: Cariesy fully, and I'm on his side, like you can't
Speaker 2: you question a little bit later?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't like the attitude. And Finn just told you
Speaker 2: this is his childhood friend, so sit your asss down.
Speaker 2: Fucking Staten Island. So he blames Twitter and stalkers and
Speaker 2: he's like, there's so many fucking stalker's man, and Cresey's like, well,
Speaker 2: we heard from your neighbor that you fight a lot,
Speaker 2: and you just fought before you left, and He's like,
Speaker 2: I never laid hands on my wife, and Caresy pushes, then,
Speaker 2: why did the cops show up twice for domestic abuse
Speaker 2: at your house? And he turns it on Creesy and
Speaker 2: he goes, well, one day, when you get a woman,
Speaker 2: we'll see if you don't yell now and then and
Speaker 2: Finn pushes, so all you did was scream and Orlando's like, damn, Fin,
Speaker 2: you too, man, and Finn is like, dude, I just
Speaker 2: need to know what you guys are fighting about. And
Speaker 2: he says one word Venetia. So I love Venetia so much.
Speaker 2: He was on her last record and their reports that
Speaker 2: they were together, but it's false, and so they keep
Speaker 2: pushing him further, like how'd you get that bruise on
Speaker 2: your face? And Orlando says that he got into a
Speaker 2: fight with paparazzi people who got too close to his
Speaker 2: daughter Lexi, and then he calls Creesy wonderbread and I
Speaker 2: think he deserves it. Finn is like, okay, then why
Speaker 2: haven't we seen anything released about that? And he explains
Speaker 2: that his manager paid off the paparazzi. Dude, and the
Speaker 2: paparazzi's got name is a mere, and he goes, when
Speaker 2: I left Dallas, she was fine, and so they meet
Speaker 2: everyone in the hospital. Rollins fills Creasy in that she
Speaker 2: has significant brain swelling and they put her in a
Speaker 2: medically induced coma to release pressure. The rate kit was
Speaker 2: sent to the lab and Orlando makes a wild choice
Speaker 2: in front of the cops and says, whoever did this
Speaker 2: is going to die.
Speaker 4: Finn responds, come on.
Speaker 2: Cuz, and then somber music plays with the background of
Speaker 2: a heart monitor, so it's a really a collab the
Speaker 2: between the heart machine and some tunes, and so then
Speaker 2: Orlando is sad and walks over to his wife, but
Speaker 2: not before pushing Finn a little bit with his shoulder,
Speaker 2: and Creasy then decides to question Finn about their relationship
Speaker 2: and Rollins that little starfucker is just like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: you know, snake, and I just love how consistent she
Speaker 2: is throughout her tenure.
Speaker 4: Finn says they haven't seen each.
Speaker 2: Other since they were sixteen, but Cresy is still like, sure,
Speaker 2: but you don't think he did it. And they all
Speaker 2: decide like, let's just go talk to a mirror the paparazzi,
Speaker 2: So they leave Rollins at the hospital and they run
Speaker 2: to La Central Restaurant. So this guy is such a
Speaker 2: greasy little meatball and I love him, and he.
Speaker 4: Goes, ah, I was paid off. I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: And Finn's like, your face looks crazy, though, and he
Speaker 2: goes whatever, I don't care. I just hope Dallas is okay.
Speaker 2: Her face is prettier than mine. And then he digs
Speaker 2: you think Snake's the one who beat her up, and
Speaker 2: he's like, I wouldn't you know, wouldn't shock him? You
Speaker 2: never know how temper erupts. Finn is like he was
Speaker 2: on stage during the attack, and the paparazzi. Meatball goes sure,
Speaker 2: and OJ was in Chicago. Finn asks for proof from
Speaker 2: the paparazzi and the pap says he's a celeb. People
Speaker 2: cover for celebs, and then has a wild theory. He says,
Speaker 2: guys running for Saint don't spend a lot of time.
Speaker 2: And Infodo's playground what, It's a rage room.
Speaker 4: So then the.
Speaker 2: Paparazzi sees a celebrity and you know, little Meatball goes
Speaker 2: and runs, and so then the Sinfoto's playground is a
Speaker 2: place where you smash stuff, so it's like an escape room,
Speaker 2: but instead of escaping, you smash.
Speaker 4: I've only seen these on reality shows.
Speaker 1: I've never heard a person go to one or seen
Speaker 1: one in person. I've only seen them go on various
Speaker 1: casts like The Housewives, and I think the VPR people
Speaker 1: went to one, like I would do it.
Speaker 2: I would do it, Yeah, I definitely would. And I
Speaker 2: don't think this is wrong, like I if it keeps
Speaker 2: you in check, like I don't think this is a
Speaker 2: sign of criminality. So we hear Finn to an employee
Speaker 2: in the darkness behind that's smashing things and people really
Speaker 2: pay for this, and the workers like it's cheaper than
Speaker 2: a shrink. You smash and you scream and you know,
Speaker 2: and so they get more scoop.
Speaker 4: So there's deluxe rooms.
Speaker 2: You get a dummy, and you can get Donald or Hillary.
Speaker 4: She says, So this is very of the times.
Speaker 2: And of course they record everything and they want to
Speaker 2: see snake surveillance. And he's beating up a dummy and
Speaker 2: he's calling the dummy Dallas and screaming I'll kill you Dallas.
Speaker 4: So not that good.
Speaker 2: But Crasy's like, you still think he's innocent, And we
Speaker 2: cut to Orlando kissing her forehead As male detectives arrive,
Speaker 2: Orlando says, you find the fuckers that did this, and
Speaker 2: Ice is so cold and goes stand up as he
Speaker 2: Jingle's handcuffs.
Speaker 1: He stands out, I don't really understand how footage of
Speaker 1: him beating up a dummy gets you a warrant for this, right,
Speaker 1: it's like very SVU like jumping to whatever they want
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: It's it's not real because we've seen episodes where they
Speaker 2: have so much evidence and they can't do anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So someone at in a place where you're the whole
Speaker 2: point is to hit things, you're not doing anything outside
Speaker 2: of the norm of a legal establishment, right, and you're not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, foolish. This was foolish.
Speaker 2: So he stands up and says, uh, you talk to
Speaker 2: a mirror and Creasy goes yeah, and we talked to
Speaker 2: the smashroom place, and he goes, come on.
Speaker 4: So then he goes, it's mistake.
Speaker 2: It's not how it looks, and then he says dead ass,
Speaker 2: and I like that. So Finn cuffs him and they
Speaker 2: all take him in and the iPad is out and
Speaker 2: Finn's showing him the footage that they saw at the
Speaker 2: smash place and the lighting is gorgeous in this shot,
Speaker 2: and Orlando says it's a rage release and it's better
Speaker 2: than pills, but you wouldn't know what it's like to
Speaker 2: have my life, and Finn goes, oh, yeah, being rich
Speaker 2: must be rough, and he uses some tabloids and asks
Speaker 2: about marital problems and it's like Phil, Phil, Phil, Philly.
Speaker 2: You know tabloids are a lie.
Speaker 4: Come on.
Speaker 2: Orlando's like, yeah, and last week I died in a
Speaker 2: car accident and gets up and pushes his chair and screams,
Speaker 2: it's all lies. Finn is like, oh, you gotta hit
Speaker 2: me like you hit her, and he says, get up
Speaker 2: out of my face, and they start arguing. Stone and
Speaker 2: Benson are spying and they're like, maybe he's not the
Speaker 2: right guy for this job, but Finn is sickened by
Speaker 2: him and shows the crime scene photos and calls him
Speaker 2: a disgrace off of one footage like this is unlike Finn,
Speaker 2: this is just like elapse, elapse for me, and he
Speaker 2: says I'm a disgrace. You want to look in the
Speaker 2: mirror and shoves him, so Benson runs in, pulls him out.
Speaker 2: They make him take a break and he sighs and
Speaker 2: runs off. Orlando's mom is here, so then Finn goes, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you in.
Speaker 4: A long time.
Speaker 2: She slaps his ass hard. They go talk in private.
Speaker 2: She is fuming. She says, I took you in for
Speaker 2: six months when your mama died. Yeah, you definitely need
Speaker 2: to be off this case. Finn, I agree with everyone here.
Speaker 2: He says, I love you, and she still guilts him.
Speaker 4: How could you?
Speaker 2: How could you arrest my baby without as much of
Speaker 2: a phone call. He's family to you. Where is your loyalty?
Speaker 2: You really believe my child could do this. I'm his mama,
Speaker 2: and I gotta do something. Finn says, listen, if you
Speaker 2: want to do something, tell me what's going on with
Speaker 2: Justin and Dallas? Like she goes, they're married. Okay, So
Speaker 2: she sits down and then she explains, and Justin first
Speaker 2: made it the red fraft would never leave him alone,
Speaker 2: but Dallas changed all of it.
Speaker 4: She cleaned him up good.
Speaker 2: And Finn pushes and now and she's like, I don't
Speaker 2: get to see my baby as often as.
Speaker 4: I would like. You know, she's the superstar.
Speaker 2: So what she says goes, but he would never raise
Speaker 2: a hand to that girl, and she has perfect gray curls.
Speaker 4: Finn says it doesn't look good.
Speaker 2: For him right now, and she cries and pleads that
Speaker 2: he has to fix this. He owes them. She grabs
Speaker 2: his face and says, you owe me. He looks down
Speaker 2: and says, listen, go take care of Lexi and I'll
Speaker 2: call you. Stone and Benson are spying on that conversation too,
Speaker 2: and Stone definitely wants him off the case. Benson breathes deep,
Speaker 2: she'll take care of it. Finn walks out of the
Speaker 2: room and Benson's like, yeah, she called you family, and
Speaker 2: so then Finn explains, So, Finn's old man thought he
Speaker 2: could get off by ripping off the neighborhood drug dealers,
Speaker 2: and then the OG's figured it out and then shot
Speaker 2: at Finn and his parents at a local bodega as
Speaker 2: they were coming out, and Finn and his dad went untouched,
Speaker 2: but his mother died in the street.
Speaker 1: Have we ever heard that story before? Is this the
Speaker 1: first time we're hearing that in season twenty? I feel
Speaker 1: like I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: I didn't either.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what we learned during the ludicrous episodes.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that seemed like he was more about like
Speaker 2: him and his wife and like, oh, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and less about his parents, like so interesting. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: just was wondering if you had a memory, because I don't,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure someone will message and let me know.
Speaker 4: Benson says, I'm so sorry. And then so Joe took
Speaker 4: him in.
Speaker 2: So she took Finn in until his grandparents moved from
Speaker 2: Fayetteville to take care of him, which is really like
Speaker 2: cool for the grandparents because in most cases that you'd
Speaker 2: have to be a kid leaving and you'd go live
Speaker 2: with your grandparents. So it's cool that his grandparents came
Speaker 2: to keep his life consistent. But also, wasn't his dad
Speaker 2: still alive? Yes, we could stay with his dad probably too.
Speaker 2: They were just probably moving to help the dad. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't living with his dad. He was living
Speaker 2: with Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The dad's a drug dealer though, right.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's I don't know, was not an option,
Speaker 1: not a suitable home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Benson leans in. That doesn't mean you can cover
Speaker 2: for snake phone buzzes.
Speaker 4: Who is it? Benson answers, and it's Rollin.
Speaker 2: She's on her way to meet her because Dallas is
Speaker 2: awake and they're gonna keep Snake in the cage, so.
Speaker 4: They're at the hospital.
Speaker 2: Dallas says, he has never laid a hand on me,
Speaker 2: and she has an all around bandage on her head,
Speaker 2: so that's a really elite SVU club. Congrats, congrats baby,
Speaker 2: you make an around the head bandage look incredible, Sleigh,
Speaker 2: she says, yeah, me and Justin got into a fight
Speaker 2: before he left, but like, who fucking cares? She says,
Speaker 2: someone else did this to me and I could prove it.
Speaker 2: She explains that after Justin left, she was facetiming with
Speaker 2: her mom and Boca. She's in a nursing home and
Speaker 2: Justin was already at the Apollo and they're like, fine,
Speaker 2: so what do you remember?
Speaker 4: She breathes deep.
Speaker 2: She is beautiful and she just so what she remembers
Speaker 2: is she got off with the phone with her mom
Speaker 2: and went to bed, and then she heard something downstairs.
Speaker 2: She thought it was Lexian Wallace, so she went downstairs
Speaker 2: and next thing she knew, there was a man standing
Speaker 2: in her room.
Speaker 4: He was wearing a mask and gloves.
Speaker 2: She ran to get the gun from behind the bar,
Speaker 2: but he just hit her and hit her and hit her.
Speaker 2: She breaks down in tears, crying. Benson asks if she
Speaker 2: was rape. She cries harder and says, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I know we're famous, but we're just people. It's part
Speaker 2: of the deal we make with the world.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 2: Benson says, nobody deserves what happened to you. She says, well,
Speaker 2: there's a whole world on Twitter that disagrees with you.
Speaker 4: Rollin's asks what.
Speaker 2: She means, and she's basically explains that Snake and RB
Speaker 2: Banks are in a dis war, so they said dis
Speaker 2: if you'd like to take a drink, take a hit,
Speaker 2: eat a jellybean. This is her moment. So they bad
Speaker 2: mouth each other and they're wraps. It's good for pr
Speaker 2: and sales, she says. But we're all good, like we
Speaker 2: all are fine. But the fans take it too seriously.
Speaker 2: The nurse, an actual true advocate for the victims, goes,
Speaker 2: why don't we let her rest?
Speaker 4: I think her brain just came back to life. Chill up.
Speaker 2: So Benson runs to tel Finn about the Old Folks home,
Speaker 2: confirming the call with her mother. Great news, your friend
Speaker 2: is not a woman beater. Cut him loose, but the
Speaker 2: damage has been done. He gets released and Finn says, Snake,
Speaker 2: you didn't do it, and Orlando goes, yeah, I appreciate
Speaker 2: you again. Why would they arrest him a good friend
Speaker 2: from just a video like it from a smash place.
Speaker 2: I will never get over it. Finn is trying to
Speaker 2: be friendly now and offering a ride. Orlando was done.
Speaker 2: Fuck off, bro. Finn is like, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: press outside, and he goes safer than you.
Speaker 4: That hurts Finn.
Speaker 2: Benson is walking around when Rollins flags her down to
Speaker 2: share some Twitter scoop. Something was posted on her page
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. So it's a video of baby Lexie
Speaker 2: and she's dancing and you know, having a good time,
Speaker 2: spinning around, and in the background, Snake is fucking around
Speaker 2: with the security system and if you put it on
Speaker 2: slow motion you can see him pressing the code and
Speaker 2: like the buttons. So fuck You know, two hundred thousand
Speaker 2: plus people liked the video, so it could be one
Speaker 2: of them as a stalker, but you can't what. So
Speaker 2: her manager is getting a list together of anyone they've
Speaker 2: had trouble with in the past, and they start reading
Speaker 2: fucked up letters and messages out loud and Chrees reads
Speaker 2: one out loud teach that black tailor swift wife of
Speaker 2: yours a lesson.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's not chill so but it's rap lyrics.
Speaker 2: RB Banks dropped that last week and he liked the
Speaker 2: video of Lexi dancing. So we're gonna go meet up
Speaker 2: with RB Banks. Rapper diswar in the community, not really
Speaker 2: happy with Dallas And who is RB Banks?
Speaker 4: It's Snoop dogg Snoop.
Speaker 2: Dog, the hardest working man in the world, stoner hero.
Speaker 4: I would say Martha Stewart's best friend.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I haven't heard a bad thing about him, so,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess.
Speaker 4: I guess he was arrested for.
Speaker 2: Murder back in the nineties, but I don't think he
Speaker 2: was convicted, was.
Speaker 4: He I didn't know murder was the case that they
Speaker 4: gave him. That's what he says. What do you mean
Speaker 4: that's one.
Speaker 1: Of his lyrics. Murder is the case that they gave me.
Speaker 1: But like, I didn't I thought that was all just
Speaker 1: like posturing. I guess I don't know my Snoop history.
Speaker 2: No, like it is really cool. I mean, ice is
Speaker 2: in this category. Ice Cube is in this category Snoop
Speaker 2: like starting with gangster rap and ending up on like cookbooks,
Speaker 2: children's movies, the box. Yeah, yeah, it's really cool to
Speaker 2: see gangst has grown up.
Speaker 4: So I love that. Yeah, I think I have three
Speaker 4: lines going.
Speaker 2: I love him so much, truly, I love Snoop Like
Speaker 2: it's really fucked up. So he's in a recording studio
Speaker 2: and right away he tells Chrisy and Rollins that bitch
Speaker 2: got what she deserved. Not nice, and they're like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're cops, right, and he goes, I don't care.
Speaker 4: I didn't have done anything. Rollins says, well, what about
Speaker 4: the dis war.
Speaker 2: That's humiliating Rollins, I would have fought and been like,
Speaker 2: I can't say this line out loud.
Speaker 4: They bring up the.
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift thing and he justifies it, saying that Snake
Speaker 2: accused him of having a ghost writer, and Cariasey's like,
Speaker 2: where were you a babe, and he's like, I was
Speaker 2: home all night and the doorman can vouch for me,
Speaker 2: and that's that. And then he straight up says to
Speaker 2: them beat it. So we're at the precinct. Benson arrives
Speaker 2: with good news the rape kit came back negative. Finn says,
Speaker 2: thank god for the little things. Sone is the dumbest
Speaker 2: man alive, walks in with the paper and goes, why
Speaker 2: is our case on the front page? Are they not
Speaker 2: two famous successful artists? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Stone?
Speaker 1: There were paparazzi right outside the minute she was getting
Speaker 1: taken out in a stretcher.
Speaker 4: It's just like, he's so dumb. How are you alive?
Speaker 4: How are you a lawyer?
Speaker 2: They're both giantly famous, Like I can't even deal with it,
Speaker 2: like obviously in old episode's like Stranger where it's like
Speaker 2: a minor kidnapped six sex slave? Fuck, why is this
Speaker 2: on the papers? That makes sense? Why are the two
Speaker 2: biggest celebrities? I just hate him? I hate him. He's
Speaker 2: trying to point fingers at the squad, and they're like,
Speaker 2: what about the Grammys?
Speaker 4: Why don't you go point at them? Like shut up.
Speaker 2: Finn sees the paper and says, fuck, I hope Snake
Speaker 2: doesn't do anything stupid. So we get to Banks studio
Speaker 2: asap because they're scared, like there's gonna be the dis
Speaker 2: war is gonna be turned into a real physical war.
Speaker 2: And Benson and Finn are in a black car spying.
Speaker 2: Dallas is still in the hospital and Joe and Lexi
Speaker 2: are there with her. Snake saw the paper and took
Speaker 2: off is what we you know the scoop And it's like,
Speaker 2: isn't Snake the one who knows the tabloids are lies?
Speaker 2: But then Finn is like, no matter how much fame
Speaker 2: and Bentley's I guess it's hard to get over disrespect.
Speaker 2: Benson takes a moment, checks in with Finn, sees that
Speaker 2: he's doing and he's having a hard time being vulnerable,
Speaker 2: but he does pop off.
Speaker 4: He's pissed, he's embarrassed, a lot of things. So we're here.
Speaker 2: Banks walks out of a studio, eight people behind him.
Speaker 2: An escalade drives by and they all stopped. Tons of escalades,
Speaker 2: tons of men, guns are out. Snick comes out and
Speaker 2: asks Banks to trying to take me out, and then
Speaker 2: Banks is like, you fucking with me? I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're saying, but like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: here to take me out.
Speaker 4: So they both are trying to take each other out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you, and then snoop
Speaker 2: and admits to it and says that bitch got what
Speaker 2: she deserved and takes ownership of the crime. He escapes
Speaker 2: Rollin's grip runs at Snoop. A few people have to
Speaker 2: stop him. Benson is on Snoop trying to relax him.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering at the end of the workday, who smoked
Speaker 2: weed with Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 4: Or in the middle of the work day.
Speaker 2: I mean, I worked on something with Snoop Dogg where
Speaker 2: he was just smoking weed in the hallways.
Speaker 4: Like the whole time. I'm not talking about Snoop smoking weed.
Speaker 4: That is a given.
Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't think Benson would smoke during the workday.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, so what I wonder if she would
Speaker 2: smoke after? Well, that's what I'm asking. Who do you
Speaker 2: think smoked with Snoop at.
Speaker 1: The end of the day. I don't think it's Benson.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Rollin's.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe Corina, Yeah, maybe Scanavino. I feel like Finn I
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like Hargate would smoke weed with Snoop.
Speaker 4: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Well, if we meet, if we get to talk to
Speaker 2: Ice Tier or Marishka or Peter, we have to remember
Speaker 2: to ask this. We will ask Casey write a note
Speaker 2: we need if we get any of the leads, we
Speaker 2: need to know who smoked with Snoopy know, yeah, I kind.
Speaker 4: Of love it.
Speaker 2: You think, yeah, not even Warren Light But yeah, Warren
Speaker 2: wasn't around. I wonder who, Oh we should ask? Oh
Speaker 2: we should ask our friend that wrote on this season.
Speaker 2: Didn't he write on the season or DM him? DM him?
Speaker 2: Maybe by the entry bye when it airs, we'll get it.
Speaker 2: If you think have an idea, let us know. So
Speaker 2: the cuffs are on banks, Benson drags him off. Snake is,
Speaker 2: you know, staring into the distance. He's upset and we
Speaker 2: open an interrogation. Benson's like, so you're telling me not
Speaker 2: to believe my own ears, and he goes, what do
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 4: Maybe you need a Q tip. She's like, my ears
Speaker 4: are fine.
Speaker 2: And you confess to a crime and he corrects her, No,
Speaker 2: I confess to what I said.
Speaker 4: In my wraps.
Speaker 2: She does not like this. He says, no way I
Speaker 2: beat her. But his alibi does suck. The video from
Speaker 2: the building confirmed that you weren't home the night of
Speaker 2: the attack, and he really doesn't want to share his
Speaker 2: true alibi. Obviously he's cheating on his wife, so that's
Speaker 2: what's happening. He would rather admit to cheating than go
Speaker 2: to Rikers obviously, and then he goes, come on, you're
Speaker 2: trying to ruin my happy home. But he writes down
Speaker 2: the name of the bit he's cheating with. So Dallas
Speaker 2: is home. She's in a cute turban and she has
Speaker 2: like Ivy stands in her nice home and Orlando's with her.
Speaker 2: Finn's like, you think it's a good idea to bring
Speaker 2: her home, and it's like, babe, they're rich. They're so rich.
Speaker 2: They have doctor's uncle. It's probably safer here than in
Speaker 2: a hospital. And they want Finn to leave. They kind
Speaker 2: of hate him, and he just wanted to let them
Speaker 2: know that bank's alibi checked out.
Speaker 4: It's not him, and it's like, who the fuck did this?
Speaker 2: But Finn on the way out sees Lexi playing video
Speaker 2: games his passion. So that's really sweet, and they have
Speaker 2: like a little, a little moment, and she says that
Speaker 2: she plays with Grandma Joe a lot because daddy is
Speaker 2: not really here that often. Okay, she's spilling everything's fin
Speaker 2: and also the little girl Lexi says that mommy told
Speaker 2: him to kick his mom out. Interesting, So she's playing
Speaker 2: video games with grandma Joe until the dad kicked her out.
Speaker 2: So we head out to West one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: third Street and he's like, Joe, what's up. What's your
Speaker 2: relationship with Dallas? Tell me everything. She goes as cop
Speaker 2: or family. He goes family first, so she trusts him.
Speaker 2: I guess immediately for no reason, and well not no reason,
Speaker 2: but he did just fuck up huge Dallas and her
Speaker 2: used to be good.
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 2: Of course, money, She's scared that Justin's gonna piss it
Speaker 2: all away if she's not holding the string, so any like,
Speaker 2: she's in charge of everything, and he goes, well, didn't
Speaker 2: he buy you a place? She goes, I was ten
Speaker 2: years ago and needed fixing up, and so she usually
Speaker 2: she just writes to the business manager, who writes her
Speaker 2: a check.
Speaker 4: And she got a check for.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the fixing the
Speaker 2: updates some HGTV moments and she found and so Dallas
Speaker 2: found out and was mad and she and like the grandma,
Speaker 2: Joe wanted more money and Dallas refused, and she's like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck, that's my baby's money. But she didn't
Speaker 2: want to bring it up to Justin. And she didn't
Speaker 2: want to start any trouble and that's that. But this
Speaker 2: episode is silly. I don't know why she would spill
Speaker 2: all these beans. So Finn is depressed at his desk,
Speaker 2: he's pouting. Rollins comes in to say they looked at
Speaker 2: Joe's financials and she goes, damn, I hope my girls
Speaker 2: take care of me like this. So three months ago,
Speaker 2: Joe wrote a check for two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to a vic Lewis.
Speaker 4: Is that a contractor?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because there's no contractors under that name
Speaker 2: in the city. But they're gonna go to the vic
Speaker 2: Lewis that they found an address for. And Finn wants
Speaker 2: to go alone, but Rollins is coming. Whether he likes
Speaker 2: it or not. They have to fancy meeting you hair,
Speaker 2: so silly. One hundred and thirty sixth Street, April twenty fourth.
Speaker 2: Let's go wait, this is actually stretching a long time.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it just aired me a second. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is the longest case in history. Vicki denies knowing anything,
Speaker 2: and Rollins is like, oh, so you get tons of
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars checks so Finn describes
Speaker 2: her Joe Anderson nice black ladies, seventy eight years old
Speaker 2: and our girls in dark lipstick. Goes okay, so she
Speaker 2: was investing and he goes, mmmm, she has better taste
Speaker 2: than this. Dis Another diss, another dis. She scoffs, then
Speaker 2: starts walking and talking to the back of the salon
Speaker 2: and she's like, listen, I'm entitled to that money, especially
Speaker 2: with all this me too stuff lying around, And so
Speaker 2: we get the scoop and about a year ago, she
Speaker 2: was at his show at the Garden.
Speaker 4: She was backstage.
Speaker 2: The manager invited her to Snake's hotel room and she
Speaker 2: needed cash to start this place.
Speaker 4: So done and done.
Speaker 2: She got to Joe because she couldn't get close to Snake,
Speaker 2: and she offered a bunch of money to keep quiet.
Speaker 2: Finn and Rollins make eye contact, and now we're at
Speaker 2: a bowling party. He denies cheating to Finn and Joe
Speaker 2: is right behind him and they're like, so, why is
Speaker 2: your mom playing the paying this white woman a ton
Speaker 2: of money for nothing? Rollins says the photo of Vicky
Speaker 2: on her phone and flashes it, and he says it
Speaker 2: was one time that can't be right. Just one time
Speaker 2: with this woman, like what but he calls her thirsty
Speaker 2: and says she threw herself at him. Joe says, shut up,
Speaker 2: that was You reminded me of Kennedy Davenport always and forever.
Speaker 2: She came to me and I didn't want to see
Speaker 2: his face with hers on the cover of magazines. But like,
Speaker 2: how did she get that kind of money? And she
Speaker 2: goes to mister Maples. We've already discussed all this, Timmy
Speaker 2: YadA YadA. Oh no, she goes mister Maples, and then
Speaker 2: Finn goes, wait, what about Timmy, and Snake laughs and says, damn,
Speaker 2: you're old. Timmy died in six Rollins confirms the death
Speaker 2: of the precinct and Finn's like, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't really love the timeline. Something is miss here, and
Speaker 2: so he goes to get Okay. So as he's leaving,
Speaker 2: trying to contemplate, like what's missing. I'm gonna do detective work,
Speaker 2: someone comes and gives him ballistics report on the gun
Speaker 2: found under Dallas.
Speaker 4: The Prince were hers. It's her gun.
Speaker 2: But she got this gun illegally because ballistics popped off
Speaker 2: on an old crime. And the old crime is an
Speaker 2: unsolved murder of a gangsta named Malik Harper. Finn says
Speaker 2: thank you, but the music playing suggests there's more to
Speaker 2: this story.
Speaker 4: The captions say it's foreboding music.
Speaker 2: If that means anything to you, Finn looks suspicious and
Speaker 2: runs off. Finn is at an Irish wooden bar talking
Speaker 2: to a retired cop who doesn't remember anything or any
Speaker 2: particular corpse.
Speaker 4: Finn's trying to get info from him, like mor photos,
Speaker 4: this that.
Speaker 2: Any and the cop goes, you know people cops that
Speaker 2: are haunted by old, unresolved cases. Well I'm not one
Speaker 2: of them. So Finn is like, so you never gave
Speaker 2: a damn He goes, listen, I didn't have enough get
Speaker 2: damned to give. He's like, can you just please help me?
Speaker 2: Here's an address, like just think. He goes, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this address is right above eleanor his best ribs in
Speaker 2: the city. They tore it down about six years ago,
Speaker 2: so now he remembers the ribs.
Speaker 4: Were that good. He remembers the man being shot.
Speaker 2: So what he remembers is the girlfriend works the counter
Speaker 2: at the rib place, and when the news broke about Maleik,
Speaker 2: she threw ribs at him.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: So there's no name, but it was a crazy white
Speaker 2: chick and she was pregnant. And so I think we're
Speaker 2: starting to put some stuff together, hopefully, unless you're not,
Speaker 2: and I'll continue talking. Benson's trying to leave the office,
Speaker 2: but Rollin says something that can't wait. She says that
Speaker 2: she dove deeper into Dallas's socials check it out. So
Speaker 2: there's always a bike in the background of some photos,
Speaker 2: so not always just a few photos.
Speaker 4: And so it's a bike. It's the same bike.
Speaker 2: And then Careesy remembers the bike from the beginning of
Speaker 2: the episode, the mongoose that belonged to the Lookie Lou
Speaker 2: and so, okay, what's going on here? So the Lookie
Speaker 2: Lou is Andreas Harper. Hello, Malie Harper, there's a connection.
Speaker 2: Fit is upset and I'm super emo and walks around
Speaker 2: without sharing anything with the group. As Andreas is an
Speaker 2: interrogation and he maintains that he had a delivery down
Speaker 2: the block and once he saw the cops and you know,
Speaker 2: he heard it with Snake in Dallas, he needed to
Speaker 2: check it out. And Benson goes, no, man, we call
Speaker 2: delivery all the delivery, food services. None of them have
Speaker 2: a record of you. So then he breaks down. He goes, fine,
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan. I just thought if I hung
Speaker 2: around the apartment long enough, Snake would come talk to me,
Speaker 2: and Benson goes, yeah, talk to you about what?
Speaker 4: And so then Benson also is like.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're such a big fan, why were you
Speaker 2: at the apartment with his wife. If you were a
Speaker 2: real fan, you would have been at the concert. And
Speaker 2: he's looking mad at her and she's like, straight up,
Speaker 2: you were there for Dallas and he shouts back, I
Speaker 2: was there for Snake. Benson fights back, this isn't my
Speaker 2: first time with stalkers, Okay, I've seen them all, the
Speaker 2: sad guy, the psychopath. So which one are you? What happened?
Speaker 2: And he has tears in his eyes and goes, don't
Speaker 2: I get a lawyer or something, and she goes, yes,
Speaker 2: and don't forget to show them this bicycle lock, because
Speaker 2: we're gonna take it to the to the lab and
Speaker 2: if any of Dallas's DNA's on it, we don't actually
Speaker 2: have to talk to you at all. Finn is now
Speaker 2: talking to the crazy White Chick salon owner and it's
Speaker 2: a sunny day in New York and he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not on the case and she's like, okay, so why
Speaker 2: are you talking to me And he's like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: Andreas is at the station and he's about to be
Speaker 2: charged and that's your kid, and she goes, yeah, nobody
Speaker 2: said that wasn't my kid. But he has no reason
Speaker 2: to hurt Dallas and Finn is like, I have a
Speaker 2: long list, but let's start with revenge. And she's like,
Speaker 2: for what to get back at the man who killed
Speaker 2: his father, Malik Harper, And then they stop and they
Speaker 2: stare face to face and she says nobody knows who
Speaker 2: killed Malik, especially Andreas. She starts to walk off, and
Speaker 2: Finn is trying to push her on stuff and she's
Speaker 2: like what the fuck, like, I'm not gonna help you
Speaker 2: put my son in jail.
Speaker 4: Back off.
Speaker 2: The acrylic nails in the sky are wagging, and that
Speaker 2: is that's the.
Speaker 4: Scene and the scene.
Speaker 2: Finn looks confused, but it's like come on, dude, So
Speaker 2: like she's not gonna help put her child in jail.
Speaker 2: So now Finn is in jail to talk to Andreas,
Speaker 2: and he's like, the lawyer told me not to talk
Speaker 2: to any cops. And he also is an orange cool jacket, Like,
Speaker 2: I've never seen a prison jacket before, but it's like
Speaker 2: pretty nice cold day. I guess cold day in April. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just have never seen prison issued coats.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I guess orange is the new black.
Speaker 2: They had coats, yeah, so I just think pretty fashion
Speaker 2: forward for a prison. So he convinces Andreas to talk
Speaker 2: to him because he gets it because he saw his
Speaker 2: mom get shot in front of a bodega and the
Speaker 2: story connects with him. So Andrea swallows aggressively and is
Speaker 2: down to chat with him.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: He asks the Finn got revenge, and he's like, they
Speaker 2: killed my mom, the person I cared about most. I
Speaker 2: wanted him to feel the same pain as I did.
Speaker 2: Killing him wasn't enough, and Andreas cuts him off. He
Speaker 2: should have suffered, she she should have died, he yells,
Speaker 2: so Dallas, Dallas. Finn asks Andreas, answers he would have hurt.
Speaker 2: Then it wouldn't have been enough, but he would have hurt.
Speaker 2: Solemn music begins to play. Andreas walks back inside after
Speaker 2: his shouting performance, So he did do it? Finn stands
Speaker 2: longingly thinking, then he goes to see so hopefully everyone
Speaker 2: has put it together that snake with a gun ballistics.
Speaker 2: Snake killed Malie Harper, and Andreas is the son who
Speaker 2: wanted to make Snake suffer. So Finn goes to see
Speaker 2: Snake over the Intercolm and Snake's like, I got nothing
Speaker 2: to say to you, and Finn goes, great, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: talk and you could just listen, you dumb bitch. So
Speaker 2: he gets buzzed in and Snake has an attitude and
Speaker 2: they're like, boo, you whore, and Finn's like, I'm here
Speaker 2: to talk about your mother, and Snake says she's a
Speaker 2: good lady, then asks him a question. Do you think
Speaker 2: I should have turned Yusiffin after I saw him kill
Speaker 2: my mother? Snake chuckles, this is not funny, but he goes,
Speaker 2: that's not how it's done. If they thought you were
Speaker 2: a snitch, she would have been dead by dinner, and
Speaker 2: Snake says, also, the cops aren't about to change or like,
Speaker 2: the cops wouldn't have helped anyways, they're not good and
Speaker 2: well now Finn's a cop, but yeah, he said, the
Speaker 2: cops wouldn't have changed anything. Finn would have been dead,
Speaker 2: like no one cares, and Finn says, I didn't do
Speaker 2: anything for that kid that attack Dallas, but everything you
Speaker 2: do in your past will eventually come back on you.
Speaker 4: He says, he wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: So Finn brings up Malik Harper, and Snake says, damn,
Speaker 2: i'ven't heard that name.
Speaker 4: In a minute.
Speaker 2: Finn goes, well, yeah, he got shot dead about eighteen
Speaker 2: years ago. Tough break, Snake says, while drinking out of
Speaker 2: a matte black mug. Cool, Finn tells a story about
Speaker 2: Yusef So thirty years after he killed his mom, he
Speaker 2: got a call to one hundred and twenty seventh Street
Speaker 2: that there and there he was stretched out on the concrete,
Speaker 2: two in the back of the head. And so Finn
Speaker 2: didn't want to solve the crime because he was a
Speaker 2: piece of shit. And then just how Malik was a
Speaker 2: piece of shit, and Snake agrees, like, yeah, they're both
Speaker 2: bad dudes. And then Orlando is like, Snake, whatever is games,
Speaker 2: and it's like Finn is here because he knows something,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's not actually playing charades. He has
Speaker 2: the evidence. So then Snake asked Wolf, whoever killed him
Speaker 2: did it in self defense? Would that make a difference,
Speaker 2: and Finn gets real professional and says that if the
Speaker 2: shooter could prove it, he wouldn't be charged. Snake gets
Speaker 2: closer to Finn in a slow pace while saying nobody
Speaker 2: would ever believe him. You know what I mean, you
Speaker 2: know how it is, and then he scoffs. Finn says,
Speaker 2: you got to remember one thing. Everything you do in
Speaker 2: your past will eventually come back to bite you. Snake nods.
Speaker 2: Finn says, take care of those ladies upstairs. They stare
Speaker 2: at each other. Snake says, church they hug. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that that was a goodbye, but cool. Finn exits
Speaker 2: the luxury building when young boys on bikes are like,
Speaker 2: whoa you know? Does Snake live there? And Finn responds, no,
Speaker 2: he still lives uptown. Then he whispers himself and always will.
Speaker 2: And then he puts on his sunglasses and walks off
Speaker 2: into the New York distance.
Speaker 4: And that's dick wolf baby.
Speaker 1: I gotta say this episod so just has like a
Speaker 1: few weird holes for me, Like it's just a very
Speaker 1: confusing episode. It's hard to connect the dots, like, so
Speaker 1: Andrea's killed, Andrea's never met his father. I understand, like
Speaker 1: that's hard to grow up without a father, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you would feel the pain of
Speaker 1: missing someone that you've never met before enough to like
Speaker 1: risk your entire future to attack Beyonce.
Speaker 4: Basically, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Like it's not all coming together for me? And then
Speaker 1: when did Vic fuck Snake after she had Andreas and
Speaker 1: she just needed the money for the salon? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: must have been like deca a decade later, She's.
Speaker 4: Like, I'll just soot the guy that killed my baby
Speaker 4: daddy to get money for my salon.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's real. I don't think the fucking
Speaker 2: is real. I think she threatened Joe. I think she
Speaker 2: was like, give me money, killed my husband, got it?
Speaker 2: This is his baby, yeah, got it, even if it's
Speaker 2: not the death.
Speaker 4: But it's like, this is her baby.
Speaker 2: And I also wonder if Andreas wouldn't care as much
Speaker 2: who his dad was if it wasn't someone famed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I see you live in the life and
Speaker 1: you killed my dad and like left me without a dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the mom the crazy White Chicks seemed not involved,
Speaker 2: not visiting your son in prison, just out living her life.
Speaker 2: I also don't get how Finn put it together to
Speaker 2: even ask Joe the warrant with the smashroom.
Speaker 4: This episode is just disjointed but great.
Speaker 1: Also, like another cop brought Finn the ballistics report, like
Speaker 1: that gun popped on another murder and it was found
Speaker 1: in their house.
Speaker 2: Someone has to investigate that. That's not just gonna go
Speaker 2: away and.
Speaker 1: Like Finn walking away and letting his pal get away
Speaker 1: with something, because like that doesn't feel like Finn at all,
Speaker 1: not to mention, it's reminding me of this current season
Speaker 1: where Benson is like Velasco, go find your old buddy
Speaker 1: from Mexico and make him pay for his crimes.
Speaker 4: Like I just feel like all of them makes that justice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I'm gonna let Betty Buckley, you know,
Speaker 2: get away with yeah exact.
Speaker 1: I guess there might not have been proof on that one,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, the moral stances feel like they're wooh
Speaker 1: like really up and down.
Speaker 4: But yeah, A good.
Speaker 2: I also so, I mean Andreas committed the crime, but
Speaker 2: I don't want him to do that much time.
Speaker 4: I know he has to.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it would be attempted murder or assault
Speaker 1: and battery, like maybe you only get a few years
Speaker 1: for that. I don't know, no, because if he I
Speaker 1: mean a bike lock to the head and breaking even dead,
Speaker 1: like you do deserve to go to jail. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel bad for your circumstances, but I love I'm team Dallas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but also, why does like the woman have to I
Speaker 1: don't know, why does the woman have to suffer for
Speaker 1: something that her guy did, like get attack him, make
Speaker 1: him feel pain, like she didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: To your dad. Well, it's kind of like manipulated too.
Speaker 2: Where they're first seeing is like, oh, someone's trying to
Speaker 2: get to her by destroying her husband, you know, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: people are up too, not my hobby, not my hobby,
Speaker 2: fucking people's lives up through murder and revenge.
Speaker 1: Well, I have some interesting factoids coming up, so listen
Speaker 1: to these brief messages and we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: So obviously Dallas and Snake seemed to be roughly based
Speaker 1: off of Beyonce and jay Z. You could even make
Speaker 1: the argument that the Venetia thing is like the whole
Speaker 1: Rihanna rumor when he was working with Rihanna and everyone
Speaker 1: thought they were sleeping together, and that's allegedly what led
Speaker 1: to the whole Solange elevator thing, but Snake had.
Speaker 2: I thought the elevator thing was Becky with the good hair.
Speaker 2: Rachel Roy.
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was Rihanna. Maybe I'm wrong now
Speaker 4: it was Rachel Roy.
Speaker 2: But I actually have inside it was really going on
Speaker 2: from someone that works at deaf Gym that I know.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Well you can tell me later if you can.
Speaker 1: But the I thought it was because Rihanna was going
Speaker 1: to be at a party they were going to, and
Speaker 1: so Launch flipped out and was like, why would you
Speaker 1: have her here?
Speaker 4: Like Rachel Roy?
Speaker 2: Okay, because then everyone got Rachel Roy and Rachel Ray
Speaker 2: confused that beehives started attacking Rachel Ray on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't think that Rachel Roy shit came out
Speaker 1: until Lemonade with Becky with the good Hair. But obviously
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. But Snake also has
Speaker 1: Kanye shades of Kanye. As you said, the song sounded
Speaker 1: kind of Kanye and but with the number of Grammy
Speaker 1: nominations they're saying the woman has and how famous they
Speaker 1: are as like a couple in music, it's definitely Jay
Speaker 1: and Bae to me and jay Z has had a
Speaker 1: lot of rap beefs with people that they always seem
Speaker 1: kind of low key, just like rapping about each other
Speaker 1: in songs. There's no really violence or retaliation against family members.
Speaker 1: That's where it kind of differs in this Episodsode. But
Speaker 1: probably his most noted beef, which by the way, dis
Speaker 1: war you would just say beef is I think how
Speaker 1: they say it in the in hip hop. His most
Speaker 1: noted beef is with fellow New York City rapper Nas.
Speaker 1: They started fighting in the late nineties into the two thousands,
Speaker 1: and it actually started in ninety six when I guess
Speaker 1: nas No showed for a recording session for a track
Speaker 1: on jay Z's Reasonable Doubt album. Then they started taking
Speaker 1: shots at each other in songs and it got really
Speaker 1: heated in two thousand and one on jay Z's The Blueprint,
Speaker 1: in a song that Kanye produced called Takeover, where jay
Speaker 1: Z calls Nasa has been and says Nas has quote
Speaker 1: one hot album every ten year average, and he, like,
Speaker 1: you know, questions is street cred. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of disrespect, as they talk about in this episode. That
Speaker 1: same year, Nas claps back with this track called Ether,
Speaker 1: which is known now as like a historic dis track,
Speaker 1: and Remy Ma like released a distrack called Sheather that
Speaker 1: was aimed at Nicki Minaj. That's like a reference to that.
Speaker 1: So that's considered one of the biggest diss tracks of
Speaker 1: all time. And then jay Z released Super Ugly.
Speaker 4: Say about What did he say about jay Z in
Speaker 4: the dis track?
Speaker 1: I think just like he's tired, like lame, you know,
Speaker 1: like in early Beefs he makes fun of jay Z
Speaker 1: having a Lexus with TVs and he's like, that's the
Speaker 1: bare minimum that you should have, like you should like
Speaker 1: as soon as I heard jay Z rob about that,
Speaker 1: I got rid of my lexus, Like you need to
Speaker 1: have more than that. That's like bear or something like that.
Speaker 1: I was reading about. So I don't know the exact uh.
Speaker 1: I didn't write down the exact diss is from Ether.
Speaker 1: But then jay Z released Super Ugly, in which he
Speaker 1: brags about having a three year affair with NAS's girlfriend
Speaker 1: Carmen Bryan. So they're hitting below the belt and this
Speaker 1: one is so bad that jay Z's mom Gloria Carter,
Speaker 1: So I feel like this might be where they got
Speaker 1: the inspiration to like bring in the moms and everything
Speaker 1: Gloria Carter calls into Hot ninety seven and said that
Speaker 1: her son should apologize to NOAs and his family, which
Speaker 1: I kind of love.
Speaker 4: Wild.
Speaker 1: Jay Z did call in and apologize to his mother
Speaker 1: and any female listeners who we might have offended with
Speaker 1: the lyrics. So yeah, So then they call a ceasefire
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and then in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five they reconcile publicly in front of a sold
Speaker 1: out crowd in New Jersey for jay Z's I Declare
Speaker 1: War tour. They perform Dead Presidents and the world is yours,
Speaker 1: and jay Z said, all that beef shit has done.
Speaker 1: We had our fun. Let's get this money. So then
Speaker 1: a year later, Nas quit his record deal or left
Speaker 1: Columbia Records and signed with def Sham, which jay Z
Speaker 1: was heading up. So that's that, and I guess they're
Speaker 1: cool now. But I feel like that's a little bit
Speaker 1: the raft beef. But like it was never like showing
Speaker 1: up with guns and shooting at each other. I think
Speaker 1: it was, like like Dallas says in the episode, it
Speaker 1: was mostly about like publicity and it sells records to
Speaker 1: have like this kind of fighting going on.
Speaker 4: So another case.
Speaker 1: That I feel like this episode could be based on
Speaker 1: is Kim Kardashian's Paris robbery because in the episode, when
Speaker 1: Snake hears the news, he goes shows over family emergency.
Speaker 4: This is basically identical to what.
Speaker 1: Happened to Kanye when he found out that his then
Speaker 1: wife Kim Kardashian had been robbed in Paris. He was
Speaker 1: performing in New York City at the Meadows Music and
Speaker 1: Arts Festival and someone came up to him and told
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm sorry, there's a family emergency.
Speaker 4: I have to stop the show. So it's pretty much
Speaker 4: ripped right from that.
Speaker 1: And I feel like we all heard about this, but
Speaker 1: I'll just recap it because there was some facts I
Speaker 1: found out about this crime that I did not know about.
Speaker 1: In October of twenty sixteen, Kim Kardashian West at the time,
Speaker 1: was staying at an apartment inside a luxury private mansion
Speaker 1: called the Hotel de Portalis de Portal I think, where
Speaker 1: she was in Paris for fashion week, and a group
Speaker 1: of five men was wearing ski masks and police uniforms
Speaker 1: got into the mansion, threatened the concierge person with a weapon,
Speaker 1: handcuffed him, forced him upstairs to the private apartment that
Speaker 1: he had to open for them, and then two of
Speaker 1: the men went into Kim's room and put a gun
Speaker 1: to her head, and she talks about it later that
Speaker 1: she wasn't wearing anything underneath her robe and she is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the moment that I get sexually assaulted, Like
Speaker 1: I have to just like prepare myself.
Speaker 4: This is going to happen. And she pleaded for her life.
Speaker 1: She was pleading to the concierge because she didn't know,
Speaker 1: like she didn't speak French, and she was like, tell
Speaker 1: them I have a family, Tell them I have a husband, please,
Speaker 1: like pleading for her life with them. They threatened her
Speaker 1: with the gun, They tied her up, They forced her
Speaker 1: into a bathtub with tape over her mouth and then
Speaker 1: tape over her eyes. And the last thing she saw
Speaker 1: before they put tape over her eyes was them holding
Speaker 1: up her jewelry box. And at the time she did
Speaker 1: have two children, but they were in New York City
Speaker 1: at the time, so her sister, Courtney had been staying
Speaker 1: with her in the same suite but was out with friends.
Speaker 1: And Kim later was saying, I was so worried that
Speaker 1: Courtney was going to come in and find me dead
Speaker 1: and be traumatized for life. So like that's the stuff
Speaker 1: that was going through her mind when this was all happening.
Speaker 1: But the men did not sexually assault her or like
Speaker 1: kill her or you know, actually beat her up in
Speaker 1: any way really other than like forcibly tying her and
Speaker 1: putting her in the bathtub. They took two cell phones
Speaker 1: and ten million dollars worth of jewelry, including her four
Speaker 1: million dollar Lorraine Schwartz engagement ring. What I didn't find
Speaker 1: out until doing this research is that all the men
Speaker 1: who did this were in their sixties and seventies. They
Speaker 1: were called the Grandpa Gangsters by some of people on
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 4: So it kind of is in line with most robbery movies.
Speaker 4: It's always these old guys.
Speaker 2: They're getting out of jail and they want one last
Speaker 2: cash grab, Like every robbery movie, even the robbery SVU episodes.
Speaker 4: Are old men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Ocean's eleven, but like, yes they're older, Like.
Speaker 4: Robert DeNiro was in one of these.
Speaker 2: I think we're in like their grandpa gangsters are doing
Speaker 2: the bit because you need a lot of skills, yes,
Speaker 2: but you know, I am sure.
Speaker 4: You're going to talk about this.
Speaker 2: But so many people thought this was fake because it's
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian and their show. Everything's produced, And I know
Speaker 2: one of those suspicions was like where was her personal security? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that was like one thing where it's like,
Speaker 2: don't you have security with you? Where were they? But
Speaker 2: maybe they were out with Courtney, But I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly, none of that, none of that,
Speaker 2: none of the stuff I read, and I did read
Speaker 2: like eight articles about this that are all of my sources, Like,
Speaker 2: there's really nothing about her personal security.
Speaker 4: It seems an assistant was there. I'll get to that.
Speaker 1: But so basically, five years later, in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: twelve men were indicted and were to be tried for
Speaker 1: robbery with a weapon committed in an organized gang, kidnapping,
Speaker 1: enforceable confinement or criminal association. One of the guys, so,
Speaker 1: now one of the guys, this guy who's sixty seven
Speaker 1: years old, his name is Eunice A Boss, was one
Speaker 1: of the twelve men. He spent twenty two months in
Speaker 1: prison in France for this crime, and then he was
Speaker 1: given an early release and he gave a full interview
Speaker 1: to Vice News, which is on YouTube with a content
Speaker 1: warning by the way, and it's all about robbing influencers.
Speaker 1: This Vice piece and a boss said he'd seen Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian throw a diamond into her pool on her reality
Speaker 1: show and was like, Oh, this woman doesn't care about money,
Speaker 1: so like, we're just going to rob her. And when
Speaker 1: they asked him if he felt guilty about his crime,
Speaker 1: he goes, he said it in French, but this is
Speaker 1: the translation. Since she was throwing money away, I was
Speaker 1: there collect it, and that was that guilty. No, I
Speaker 1: don't care, And he said a bunch of times he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't care, like and he also told them, had
Speaker 1: you released.
Speaker 4: This person after twenty two months?
Speaker 1: I don't know, and because the reason they found him
Speaker 1: is because he left DNA at the scene when he
Speaker 1: subdued the concierge and he's a criminal in the system,
Speaker 1: so they found his ass quick as hell.
Speaker 2: And he even said that, he goes, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: left my DNA. They found me really quick because I'm
Speaker 2: a criminal. So they let him out after twenty two months.
Speaker 2: He's like, fully gonna do something like this again.
Speaker 4: He's not sorry.
Speaker 2: Why would you bet. You know, we just covered the
Speaker 2: fucking that monster. They might they have a more lenient
Speaker 2: system than.
Speaker 4: We do over here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They asked him like to like, don't you think she
Speaker 1: was traumatized? And he goes, oh, yeah, sure, of course,
Speaker 1: of course she'd be traumatized, of course, but he had
Speaker 1: no feeling about it, like, no guilt at.
Speaker 4: All, and please he's self aware. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, we also found out that Kim Kardashian, I'm a
Speaker 1: boss fan unice of boss for president Lisa love them.
Speaker 1: We also found out that Kim Kardashian's assistant made the
Speaker 1: mistake of calling nine to one one, which in France
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything that is not the emergency number in France,
Speaker 1: so French police weren't notified immediately, and that's left the
Speaker 1: gang more time to escape. So they did get away,
Speaker 1: but then of course they were all like, they were
Speaker 1: all tracked down. Another guy whose name was Almar Eit Kadash,
Speaker 1: a sixty year old veteran robber also implicated in the heist,
Speaker 1: said that they got most other information from social media,
Speaker 1: which is I think where the tie in of this
Speaker 1: episode where they're like, oh, Twitter, finding the code and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and he said, quote this is probably
Speaker 1: translated also quote it says the jewels were shown on
Speaker 1: the internet, and she said she didn't wear fakes the
Speaker 1: time she would arrive in France. You just had to
Speaker 1: look at the internet and you knew everything, absolutely everything.
Speaker 1: And that was in a police report obtained by Lamond,
Speaker 1: which is a French newspaper, so allegedly it was Kim.
Speaker 4: Snapchat is where they got all this information.
Speaker 1: And this vice reporter pointed out and goes, if a
Speaker 1: nearly seventy year old man can figure out how to
Speaker 1: target one of the world's most famous people using snapchat,
Speaker 1: she goes, I don't think any of us have any hope.
Speaker 4: So but they inspired criminals all over the world.
Speaker 1: This Kim Kardashian attack was kind of like one of
Speaker 1: the first major influencer robberies, and it inspired all these
Speaker 1: criminals all over the world to target wealthy influencers by
Speaker 1: using their social media to like gather clues.
Speaker 2: So, Kim Kardashian, I'm not giving it to these guys.
Speaker 2: This is the Bling ring. We learned this in the
Speaker 2: Bling Ring. Well, the blame ring is a little bit
Speaker 2: different because those people became friends with them, didn't They
Speaker 2: get like invited to their parties and shit, and that's
Speaker 2: when they would case the area.
Speaker 4: Nah, you got to watch the three part doc oh okay.
Speaker 1: I thought that they were like young kids that kind
Speaker 1: of would hang out at the parties and then steal
Speaker 1: shit or like then break into their houses when they
Speaker 1: knew they were on vacation.
Speaker 2: Now that's the thing. It was breaking in when the
Speaker 2: people were gone. But it is like using your social
Speaker 2: media to know your full schedules and know when to
Speaker 2: rob your ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so bling ring.
Speaker 1: But maybe these guys brought it more to the internation
Speaker 1: because Kim Kardashian was just wasn't so huge.
Speaker 2: This is just coming back to me when this case broke.
Speaker 2: I remember hanging out with someone that was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's so new money. Real rich people don't wear their
Speaker 2: real diamonds like I guess old money. They all have
Speaker 2: fakes that they wear. Well, Kim learned her lesson.
Speaker 1: Apparently after this happened, she went into hiding for three
Speaker 1: months and then re emerged and immediately went to Ellen
Speaker 1: as you do after a trauma, and she told the
Speaker 1: talk show.
Speaker 2: I did did Ellen play a little trick on her,
Speaker 2: make her think she's about to get kidnapped on the stage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like did she come out dancing to a Kanye song
Speaker 2: like hey babe, straddling her little coffee table.
Speaker 4: It is fucked. I am bad.
Speaker 2: I'm like one of the bad people in the episode
Speaker 2: diss where I'm like because of Kim's status, I'm like
Speaker 2: more detached from her or like where I'm like I
Speaker 2: have whatever, I'm tiama boss Like it is fucked.
Speaker 4: Like she is. Yeah, she is a person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, so she did go on David
Speaker 1: Letterman and have this like hard to heart with him
Speaker 1: where she is very upset, Like when people talk about
Speaker 1: this being staged again, it's like when people talk about
Speaker 1: the Scandal all stuff being staged. These people are not
Speaker 1: good enough actors. There is absolutely no way Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: is a good enough actor to cry the way she
Speaker 1: cries in these interviews talking about this experience.
Speaker 4: If it was fake, I'm sorry. I don't give that
Speaker 4: to her.
Speaker 1: She has one line in Paw Patrol movie and it's
Speaker 1: not good, So I can't imagine that she's good at this.
Speaker 1: So she said to Ellen quote, I know this sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but I know that was meant to happen to me.
Speaker 1: I am such a different person, she says. I just
Speaker 1: don't care about that stuff anymore. I don't care to
Speaker 1: show off the way that I used to.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 1: She was very obsessed, she said, with being in the mix,
Speaker 1: like showing everything she was doing, and now she's like
Speaker 1: during the Keeping Up with the Kardashians reunion in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, she said, quote, no expensive items ever come
Speaker 1: to my home. I have it all taken from security
Speaker 1: before I even enter my home. I can't sleep if
Speaker 1: I have jewelry in my safe or money or anything
Speaker 1: at my house. I just don't live my life like that,
Speaker 1: she says. And she says, as far as jewelry, if
Speaker 1: I'm wearing something, it's borrowed, it's fake.
Speaker 4: So this really changed.
Speaker 1: And apparently she doesn't post in real time anymore, like
Speaker 1: she'll save she'll take photos and then save them and
Speaker 1: post after she's left a location.
Speaker 4: She has really like.
Speaker 1: Some of the articles I was reading was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can notice after that she goes to the met
Speaker 1: ball in like a really scaled down dress, like the
Speaker 1: like the year or two after well before Marilyn like
Speaker 1: in the just the direct aftermath of this happening, Like
Speaker 1: they said, she went really like much more simple with
Speaker 1: her fashion and stuff, and I think was trying to
Speaker 1: like live more simplistically for a Kardashian or whatever.
Speaker 4: But that's that's the story on that.
Speaker 1: I just like, I think I knew most of that,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't know that it was like this
Speaker 1: gang of oldies, and I didn't know that most of
Speaker 1: them have like been tried and gone to jail and
Speaker 1: are out already.
Speaker 4: Like crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if the guys got out early because
Speaker 1: of COVID or something they got rid of like kind
Speaker 1: of more nonviolent crimes or something like that.
Speaker 2: People that were in jail to violent, right, but they didn't.
Speaker 2: It was emotionally violent for her for sure.
Speaker 4: So that's that on that.
Speaker 2: But no, you have it's kind of like the story
Speaker 2: we talked about with the engagement kidnapping, where it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I think he's tying someone up and holding them hostage.
Speaker 4: Is physical for sure, for.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yes, absolutely violent, But like I'm glad they didn't
Speaker 1: pistol whip her, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like they could have done a ton of damage
Speaker 1: to her.
Speaker 2: And like, now these are classic robbers. They're not interested
Speaker 2: in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're not taking the time to like, yeah, inflict.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked there's no movie made yet about it. But
Speaker 2: because I don't believe Dorie in her robbery, and Andy
Speaker 2: Cohen was like, Dorrit is not a good actress. Yeah
Speaker 2: this is this happened, and he's like appalled. People think
Speaker 2: it's fake. But I think Teddy's husband being in charge
Speaker 2: of their insurance security. Yeah, just there's like a lot
Speaker 2: of things that don't make it. And then this is
Speaker 2: a fucked up theory about Dori, but that her husband
Speaker 2: did it without telling her and he knew what was
Speaker 2: going to happen.
Speaker 4: That's beyond fucked up it is. But they're all scam artists.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, like what that's what's crazy, Like scandival
Speaker 2: is so shocking to us, and the lies and the
Speaker 2: deceit and all of that. But they're all fucking criminals
Speaker 2: from coast to coast of that of the housewives.
Speaker 1: They say criminals. It is the age of the scammer.
Speaker 1: It is the age of the of the criminal. Truly,
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't put it past them. I guess that's
Speaker 1: my point. I wouldn't put it past these people.
Speaker 2: I don't have any any tensions or any good thoughts
Speaker 2: on these people.
Speaker 1: I thought Duraid's thing was fake. I really did, because
Speaker 1: I was like, why'd they leave your cell phone? Like
Speaker 1: I don't really There was a few things where I
Speaker 1: was like, this doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4: But you know, I agree with Andy, she can't be
Speaker 4: that good.
Speaker 2: No, I'm wee being appalled by people who were not
Speaker 2: sympathetic to Kim at the time.
Speaker 4: I remember being like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: I like, could that's I mean, it's just like when
Speaker 1: someone reaches such a level of fame. I remember thinking like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like a movie. How is
Speaker 1: that possible? But you're right, like where was her personal security?
Speaker 1: It sounds like an assistant was nearby that called nine
Speaker 1: one one by accident and like there, but there wasn't
Speaker 1: like a guy right outside her room all night.
Speaker 4: Like I don't get that. So especially if like a
Speaker 4: concierge has a key.
Speaker 1: It's like, anyway, we do have a fantastic guest, so
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, okay, guys, our guest today is not
Speaker 1: only an actor but also a former Beverly Hills High
Speaker 1: School student body president. You'll know her from her work
Speaker 1: on past shows such as The Carmichael Show and Happy Together.
Speaker 1: You can also see her in The Amazing Spider Man
Speaker 1: and twenty two Jump Street. She's currently a lead in
Speaker 1: the stars comedy Run the World. But you know we're
Speaker 1: today as the glamorous pop star Dallas Monroe. Guys, enjoy
Speaker 1: our convo with the very talented Amber Stevens West. Good morning,
Speaker 1: Good morning, Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 4: This is amazing, Thank you for having me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I first, like I know your work from
Speaker 1: like Carmichael's Show, and like all these comedies that you've
Speaker 1: been in, Like we have a friend that wrote on
Speaker 1: the current show that you're on, so like we are fans,
Speaker 1: but this feels like such a different kind of thing
Speaker 1: for you from what I've seen you do. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've done drama or whatever, but this felt like a departure.
Speaker 1: So how did this come to you? They just like
Speaker 1: threw you an SVU or were you like to your agents?
Speaker 1: I'd love to be on an SVU? Like what how
Speaker 1: did I get it all go? I got lucky.
Speaker 6: I got a phone call and they said, hey, they've
Speaker 6: got this part and they thought of you for it.
Speaker 5: Are you interested? And I said, yeah, I mean it
Speaker 5: was very it was very cool.
Speaker 6: I read it obviously and like double checked that it
Speaker 6: was something that seemed fun for me. But basically the
Speaker 6: role was like you're a big pop star and then
Speaker 6: you're injured. So I was like, I'm done. That sounds cool.
Speaker 6: And then we like made a music video.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well wild SVU start if I've ever seen one,
Speaker 2: because it's scary, dramatic, very realistic. Oh no, what's going
Speaker 2: to happen? And then a real kooky turn for us.
Speaker 2: I've ever seen anything like it.
Speaker 4: How did you feel being so glamorous with the with
Speaker 4: the guns? I guess Oh.
Speaker 5: God, it was funny. It was funny to rehearse all
Speaker 5: of it. Was funny to dance on top of a
Speaker 5: car and those heels. Was funny to.
Speaker 6: Dance while holding guns and like make it look sexy
Speaker 6: with a wing that went down to my waist.
Speaker 5: It was fun. It was a good time. It was
Speaker 5: a I.
Speaker 6: Didn't realize, you know, I don't know what they're doing
Speaker 6: and they're behind the directors have in mind how they're
Speaker 6: going to shoot one into the other. But yeah, that
Speaker 6: false start is quite a surprise I think for the audience.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because I had the same feeling like I
Speaker 2: haven't with her, uh like with little relling get out
Speaker 2: where the you know, the cop shows up and right
Speaker 2: away like or the TSH, but the like pit in
Speaker 2: your stomach where you're like, oh no, what's about to happen?
Speaker 7: What horrible start of this SVU? And then glitter, Yes,
Speaker 7: like a very fun and then Beyonce. Yeah, was there
Speaker 7: a wind machine?
Speaker 6: No, there was no wind machine, but those were live
Speaker 6: actual like fire whatever you call those fire rotechs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pyrotechnics. That was real.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you have to learn choreo?
Speaker 5: I did. I had to learn choreo. They didn't show
Speaker 5: a lot of it. I'm not a great dancer. They
Speaker 5: didn't know that when they hired me. So it was
Speaker 5: more just a lot.
Speaker 6: Of like body rolling with guns, yeah, and rolling around
Speaker 6: on the hood of a car.
Speaker 5: But there was a choreographer. She was very cool and.
Speaker 6: I and you know, help me try to learn how
Speaker 6: to dance and heels on top of a slanted.
Speaker 1: Roof of a car like truly not I think what
Speaker 1: any actor thinks they're going to be doing when they
Speaker 1: agree to an SVU.
Speaker 2: Not at all, to be like in a sparkly mini dress,
Speaker 2: just getting down.
Speaker 4: Not at all.
Speaker 1: Were you channeling your inner Beyonce? I mean it feels
Speaker 1: very Beyonce.
Speaker 5: Obviously, of course I was, of course.
Speaker 4: But then quickly you're in a pool of blood, which is.
Speaker 6: Very you know, typical. Yeah, yeah, that's what that's what
Speaker 6: we come for. We don't come to the Beyonce dance,
Speaker 6: you know. It's a little fun thing to put in there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, outside of laying in the blood, you
Speaker 2: also joined a very select few esteemed actors of SVU
Speaker 2: where you had a full.
Speaker 4: Around the head bandage. Yes, I did cool.
Speaker 6: Thing too, Yes, close around the head bandage. That whole
Speaker 6: scene of me laying in a bed. They're like, you
Speaker 6: have a head injury, so you can't really like move
Speaker 6: your body, and so they shot it. I look freaking crazy,
Speaker 6: and that whole shot.
Speaker 5: It's just like a whole.
Speaker 6: Double chin shot really close to my head because I
Speaker 6: couldn't move my head. That was a that was a
Speaker 6: challenge actually, And then Marishka's just sitting at the foot
Speaker 6: of the bed and they're like and cry and I'm like,
Speaker 6: no pressure, don't move your body or do anything, and
Speaker 6: have like, you know, the leads of the show staring
Speaker 6: at you, waiting for you to kill it.
Speaker 1: You did kill it, though, I mean you had me
Speaker 1: feeling bad for the celebs that we harass all the time.
Speaker 4: Good good, I'm glad. I was like, they are just people.
Speaker 2: She's right, But we always we do like to ask
Speaker 2: how long were you in the blood?
Speaker 4: Was that a long laying in the blood scene?
Speaker 5: Or no? It was quick? Was it was quick? So this?
Speaker 5: When did we shoot this? Like four years ago? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Trying to remember there was four seasons ago, so that
Speaker 2: sense with COVID give or take, I think it was
Speaker 2: like twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: Probably sounds right because I had my boobs look especially
Speaker 6: lovely in that opening scene because I was still breastfeeding
Speaker 6: because I had a new baby at the.
Speaker 5: Time, and my mom came to New York with me
Speaker 5: with the babe.
Speaker 6: It was the first time we'd ever traveled with her,
Speaker 6: So that sounds about four years ago.
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to remember all this stuff.
Speaker 6: I'm saying all this to say that it's been a
Speaker 6: while since this experience, but from what I remember, I
Speaker 6: was not in the head bandage blood for very long.
Speaker 6: I didn't have to have that breathing machine thing in
Speaker 6: my mouth for a little while though in the background
Speaker 6: of the scene.
Speaker 4: Was that annoying hard?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it actually was kind of uncomfortable in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Wait, you mean when you're lying like face down with
Speaker 1: the head injury, they have you on like a breathing
Speaker 1: machine or wait, I.
Speaker 6: Don't know, no, no, in the hospital, in the oh yeah, yes,
Speaker 6: when I'm in the car, they have me with the
Speaker 6: machine on my face, laying there and inventing.
Speaker 1: A machine that you breathe into so that doesn't look
Speaker 1: like you're breathing.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, my back.
Speaker 5: That doesn't.
Speaker 2: Until I invent it.
Speaker 4: Shark tank. Did you and Snoop ever cross paths?
Speaker 5: We didn't.
Speaker 6: But my mom, who was in the dressing room the
Speaker 6: whole time, was right next to him in his dressing
Speaker 6: room the whole time, smelling all kinds of contact hie
Speaker 6: getting the contact high, enjoying, enjoying her afternoon.
Speaker 5: With the baby. But no, I never got to meet
Speaker 5: him because we never worked on this. Yeah, I gather anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, did you know that it was?
Speaker 2: I mean, it is kind of obvious but did you
Speaker 2: know it was based a little bit on the Kim
Speaker 2: Kardashian Kanye kind of.
Speaker 5: Begin wait what it is, Well, just.
Speaker 2: The whisper and Orlando like leaving his concert. It was
Speaker 2: like Kanye being like family, like leaving the show when
Speaker 2: she was in Paris.
Speaker 1: Yes, and like the concept of like the concept of
Speaker 1: like the of celebrities, like giving away too much information
Speaker 1: on social media and then getting like, you know, attacked
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's like the characters are clearly based on
Speaker 1: Jay Z and Beyonce as well, Like there's multiple multiple
Speaker 1: cases here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do remember being very impressed.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you watch the episode closely, when
Speaker 6: they go into our house. The set design, they had
Speaker 6: the art department make these eight foot tall portraits of
Speaker 6: Orlando and I that are so beautiful. So I would
Speaker 6: pause and watch the episode again and look in the background.
Speaker 6: They're like these old eighteen hundreds looking portraits of the
Speaker 6: two of us, and I just wish.
Speaker 5: I could have taken one home.
Speaker 6: I thought that was really cool that they spent the
Speaker 6: attention to detail in the set design of our house.
Speaker 4: They should have that you take one home.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And also we did a photo shoot so they
Speaker 6: can have pictures in the house of us. So there's
Speaker 6: a picture above our bed of him behind me holding
Speaker 6: our pregnant my pregnant belly.
Speaker 5: So we did a photo shoot where I put a
Speaker 5: belly on. Wow, we do.
Speaker 6: So there's like fun little things like that. If you
Speaker 6: just look around in the house.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it because that's definitely part of
Speaker 1: pop stardom.
Speaker 4: Is you got shrines to yourself all over the house.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yep, yep.
Speaker 5: They pay attention to every detail.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, with our little online research, you went to Beverly
Speaker 2: Hills High School?
Speaker 6: I did, Yes, I was the president student body president
Speaker 6: of Beverly Hills High School.
Speaker 4: Ex excuse me, political royalty.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, thank you for the acknowledgement.
Speaker 2: What was that like? Did you have outside lockers? Were
Speaker 2: your lockers outside like on TV?
Speaker 6: No, they were inside a lot of the campus. It
Speaker 6: gives you space to walk outside. So lunchtime, everyone sits
Speaker 6: out on this like a big grassy lawn, kind of
Speaker 6: like and clueless.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember them walking around outside.
Speaker 5: Our high school was kind of like that.
Speaker 6: Certainly, kids had a lot of fancy nice cars, you know,
Speaker 6: like for their sixteenth birthday they were getting BMW's.
Speaker 5: Did not have a car. My parents did not buy
Speaker 5: me a car, but that was happening.
Speaker 6: But it was a pretty multicultural school, and I really
Speaker 6: liked it because there was a public school, whereas you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of the really really rich kids and famous kids,
Speaker 6: they all their parents all put them in private schools.
Speaker 5: So I still had like a.
Speaker 6: It's still as a kind of I don't know, it's
Speaker 6: Kent's hard to say normal, but like as normal as
Speaker 6: you could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're like, are a lot of kids in the
Speaker 1: business like doing acting at the school, Like they let
Speaker 1: you out to go do No.
Speaker 5: Not a lot.
Speaker 6: No, it certainly is not uncommon. I mean that it happens.
Speaker 6: There was no you know, issues I was in when
Speaker 6: I was in high school. I was doing modeling and
Speaker 6: commercial acting just for fun on the side. And I
Speaker 6: didn't miss school very much for it because I could
Speaker 6: do auditions after school.
Speaker 5: But if I booked something, I'd miss a day or whatever.
Speaker 5: It was never an issue. And there were there were some.
Speaker 6: Other kids doing that, but not a lot, and certainly
Speaker 6: not a lot of kids with parents that were acting
Speaker 6: because again, those people put their kids in private school.
Speaker 6: But but a lot of people work in the industry.
Speaker 6: A lot of the parents work in the industry in
Speaker 6: other ways. I mean, that's what we do here in
Speaker 6: Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to You've mentioned your parents, And one of
Speaker 1: my favorite parts of this podcast is when I'm just
Speaker 1: researching people and I have this like, oh my god moment,
Speaker 1: I cannot believe your dad is Shadow Stevens. I like
Speaker 1: have been watching you on stuff forever and like never
Speaker 1: put it together. I mean, if people don't know, like
Speaker 1: legendary DJ, host of American Top forty, definitely listened to
Speaker 1: him when I was a kid, like he is to
Speaker 1: me when you're like thinking of a like a hey,
Speaker 1: this is the DJ guy, Like that's your dad, Like
Speaker 1: he's just like that's amazing, classic DJ, Like that's so nuts.
Speaker 1: Like and then your mom is a model. So it
Speaker 1: feels like you kind of were like a little bit
Speaker 1: biz adjacent. But it sounds like they kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to keep you not humble, but like they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep you normal.
Speaker 6: The public schools a great school. I mean we lived
Speaker 6: in Beverly Hills. It was not like, you know, we
Speaker 6: weren't slumming.
Speaker 5: It or anything.
Speaker 2: No, exactly, but you know you're not like going to
Speaker 2: you know, you're not going to private You're not getting
Speaker 2: a car.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I did private school through sixth grade and then my
Speaker 6: parents were like, you're going to public school. But uh
Speaker 6: yeah they were. They certainly were not handing me anything.
Speaker 6: There was no like nepotism, pulling of cards to get
Speaker 6: me anywhere in my career whatsoever. The very practical people were.
Speaker 6: You know, you know how the business works. You're on
Speaker 6: top one day and then you're waiting for someone to
Speaker 6: call you for two years. So my parents were like,
Speaker 6: if you want to do this, like save your money,
Speaker 6: and they would teach me like how to stay grounded
Speaker 6: in all of it because it's the very volatile industry.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, grounded is the word I was looking
Speaker 1: for before when I saw Humble.
Speaker 6: I mean ground yeah, yeah, a little grounded, yeah yeah
Speaker 6: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So you have done like when you look at your IMDb,
Speaker 1: it's like comedies all over the place, and then now
Speaker 1: you're on this show called Run the World on Stars
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. The Internet says season
Speaker 1: two is coming out May twenty six, so like very soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my son's birthday, by the way.
Speaker 1: Will wow, we'll be having to run the world themed
Speaker 1: two year old birthday party for a premiere.
Speaker 4: But do you shoot that in New York? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's the story with that? Is that comedy? Is that
Speaker 1: like more dramaedy? Like what's the.
Speaker 6: It's a half hour show, but I guess it could
Speaker 6: lean into dramaedy a little bit. It shoots in New York,
Speaker 6: it takes place in Harlem. The new season is kind
Speaker 6: of just picking up where we left off with the
Speaker 6: first season, where it's about about the friendship of these
Speaker 6: women and the support that they have for one another,
Speaker 6: and they have a healthy relationship with their black women
Speaker 6: who are thriving essentially and support being supportive, good girlfriends
Speaker 6: to each other, because we do need a little bit
Speaker 6: more of like watching black people being vulnerable and also
Speaker 6: killing it in their careers and in their relationships, just
Speaker 6: showing the other sides of being a black woman. So yeah,
Speaker 6: the new season's a lot of fun. I just watched
Speaker 6: the first two episodes last week and I'm really really
Speaker 6: excited for people to see it.
Speaker 4: Yes, amazing. Yeah, And I would love to talk.
Speaker 2: We always like to ask couples that are both actors.
Speaker 2: You and your husband do audition tapes together? Are you
Speaker 2: reading lines together? And are you fighting as you do it?
Speaker 5: That is a very good question.
Speaker 6: So yes, we do make self tapes together here in
Speaker 6: the room that I'm standing in. Actually this is our
Speaker 6: guest room, and we are really good partners with it.
Speaker 6: Actually we don't give each other too many notes. I
Speaker 6: think he knows better than to give me notes unless
Speaker 6: I ask, I give unsolicited notes.
Speaker 5: Probably. I try to preface it with would you like
Speaker 5: an idea I have?
Speaker 6: And he'll be like, yeah, sure, and then he'll probably
Speaker 6: argue with me why it's a stupid idea. But but
Speaker 6: we do do it together, and we've got a little
Speaker 6: system going, and it works well for us, thank god,
Speaker 6: because I don't know what we would do otherwise. Every
Speaker 6: once in a while he'll go to a service and
Speaker 6: have these guys help them do it if we just
Speaker 6: can't get the kids out of the house or whatever,
Speaker 6: or we can't schedule it otherwise.
Speaker 5: But we do a good job together.
Speaker 4: That's good to you. That's yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm over it, though, and I'd really like to just
Speaker 6: go back in rooms and audition in front of humans.
Speaker 4: That's what we keep hearing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I moved to I moved to
Speaker 2: La December twenty nineteen, and I want audition for.
Speaker 4: The people, meet the people, and then.
Speaker 5: The universe said no, no, no.
Speaker 4: But it happens.
Speaker 2: And then did you guys you met on set of
Speaker 2: Greek and then did you wait or was it like,
Speaker 2: did you keep it secret?
Speaker 4: Was it? Did everyone know?
Speaker 6: So the show was a little bit of life imitating
Speaker 6: art because our characters on the show were secretly seeing
Speaker 6: each other. So I the show for people who don't
Speaker 6: know what it is.
Speaker 5: We were.
Speaker 6: It was a sorority show, and I was I think
Speaker 6: the president of the sorority at the time in.
Speaker 5: The show, and we experience.
Speaker 6: I do have experience, so that you know, they obviously
Speaker 6: thought of me for this part. So we get a
Speaker 6: guy to help clean the house or something. He's like
Speaker 6: the I can't remember what there's a term for it.
Speaker 6: But he came in to work in the house and
Speaker 6: then he and I have a fling with each other,
Speaker 6: but it's secret because I'm like sleeping with the help.
Speaker 6: So utairs, Yeah, a little up to a little downtown abbey.
Speaker 6: So he uh and I were like secretly seeing each
Speaker 6: other in the show and literally at the same time,
Speaker 6: we're kind of starting to do that in real life.
Speaker 6: So we met on the show, and within two weeks
Speaker 6: we were seeing each other. I mean it was really quick.
Speaker 6: So we kind of kept it on the d L.
Speaker 6: Like we were all really close friends on that show
Speaker 6: because we were all in our early twenties and it
Speaker 6: was like the first big thing we've done together. So
Speaker 6: it was super close knit group of people, so it's
Speaker 6: hard to keep a secret. But we kind of didn't
Speaker 6: really talk about it because we didn't want anyone to
Speaker 6: be like, oh, it's a showmance and like blow it
Speaker 6: up into something that's gonna be ridiculous and everyone's talking
Speaker 6: about it, So we waited to make sure that we
Speaker 6: really were actually like seriously dating, which also took like
Speaker 6: two weeks. It was very quick, and we went to
Speaker 6: our makeup artists on the show's birthday party together and
Speaker 6: that's how we like, oh that was the show, kind
Speaker 6: of are coming out like, Okay, everyone that you probably
Speaker 6: already know, but like we're dating.
Speaker 1: Love it, yeah, and now you guys are basically Dallas
Speaker 1: and Snake right like in real life. That's very your
Speaker 1: very similar dynamic, very similar.
Speaker 5: You know, huge mega stars.
Speaker 6: No, it's nice to we're both in the business though,
Speaker 6: because we kind of understand what each other's jobs are
Speaker 6: and there's no like jealousy when someone's gone for a
Speaker 6: while or working with someone who's like super sexy or whatever.
Speaker 5: You know, we understand what it takes to do this.
Speaker 4: Gotcha, who's been the sexiest co star?
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question. Let me think about that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't work opposite him, but like Channing's
Speaker 6: pretty sexy that he was fun to work with.
Speaker 5: But you know that one we didn't like work together
Speaker 5: or anything like that.
Speaker 6: My husband did an independent movie once with this really
Speaker 6: beautiful actress and they had to have a sex scene.
Speaker 6: And I just chose to not think about it too.
Speaker 5: Much because I watch it and I don't think.
Speaker 6: I don't think I ever watched the movie. I'm not
Speaker 6: like too jealous, but like, I don't need to see that.
Speaker 6: I did make a huge mistake once I did. I
Speaker 6: did this little movie and I was working with.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, name just went out of my brain.
Speaker 5: Brian Greenberg.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, he's he's a crush of mine. He's in
Speaker 2: the movie Prime.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6: So he's very, very cute, and my character like hooks
Speaker 6: up with him. But I invited my husband to set
Speaker 6: one day and I was like, come and hang out
Speaker 6: because we were filming in Glendale, like down the street.
Speaker 6: And I get and he gets there finally during the
Speaker 6: day and we're about to start shooting the scene where
Speaker 6: I start to hook up with him, and he's got
Speaker 6: his hand on my pants and stuff. Andy's like, why
Speaker 6: did you invite me? Why why am I here right now?
Speaker 6: He's like, I am so sorry. I did not know
Speaker 6: we were about to shoot this when you got here.
Speaker 6: But my husband's not he's not like scared, he's not mad.
Speaker 6: But he made Brian so uncomfortable because Brian Bryan kept
Speaker 6: going up to my husband and be like, I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry, Like you know, this is like just
Speaker 6: part They're just this is in the script. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 6: And Andy's like, I'm not mad at you, you're doing
Speaker 6: your I'm gonna go. I'm gonna leave so that you
Speaker 6: don't feel weird and I don't need to watch this
Speaker 6: and this is weird for everybody.
Speaker 5: So he didn't stay around for long.
Speaker 1: There's an intimacy coordinator standing with a clipboard two feet away.
Speaker 4: How sexy? Can it? R? Right? I want to watch
Speaker 4: this now.
Speaker 6: Well, the movie is called The Kitchen. Okay, oh wait,
Speaker 6: you shall look it up. Okay, the Kitchen, the kitchen
Speaker 6: where the whole movie basically takes place in the kitchen
Speaker 6: at a party, at a house party.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's really a great idea.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So just following all the different people coming out in
Speaker 6: and out of the party and the relationships they have
Speaker 6: with each other, it's it's quite funny.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love that because that's where everyone
Speaker 4: hangs out at a party.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: I also really wanted to ask you what it was
Speaker 2: like to be an American girl doll.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that was so funny that they asked
Speaker 5: me to do that. I was like, hell, yeah, I
Speaker 5: have them. I gave them to my daughters. I still
Speaker 5: had them, and I had Addie, So to be Addie
Speaker 5: was epic. That was a really fun day. That was
Speaker 5: a really funny, funny sketch.
Speaker 2: I just went to the store for the first time
Speaker 2: with my friend's daughter.
Speaker 4: It's really cool in there.
Speaker 5: Wait where is it.
Speaker 4: It's in New York.
Speaker 2: I was just sitting New York bo there's like nineties
Speaker 2: dolls now, and so there's blow up furniture and pizza
Speaker 2: hut and like nineties stuff. So it's wow, yeah, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Like I saw that, I go, I thought they were colonial,
Speaker 1: and she's like, we're old.
Speaker 4: They're different now, they're different now. I know.
Speaker 6: The coolest one when we were kids was Molly. She
Speaker 6: was like the most current and she was still like
Speaker 6: nineteen fifties or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm glad you liked that. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to get in to Run in
Speaker 2: the World. I'm going to catch up before the second season.
Speaker 5: I have no fun.
Speaker 4: I don't know I want to. I'm going to catch
Speaker 4: up before the second season. I want to watch.
Speaker 5: Oh please, it's a good time. It's a good watch.
Speaker 4: I love friendship.
Speaker 5: It's all about friendship.
Speaker 4: Honest.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's like a Sex in the City,
Speaker 1: like like living single kind of like fun modern.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is, and is the is it
Speaker 4: fashion forward?
Speaker 5: Very very fair.
Speaker 6: It's the same costume designer as Sex in the City.
Speaker 5: Really fields, yeah, oh wow, oh my god. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: you come for the fashion too?
Speaker 4: Was a major city. Yeah, and so this is like, oh,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, then you need to watch this show is
Speaker 5: for you. It's amazing. She's incredible.
Speaker 6: She's eighty years old and has the stamina of someone
Speaker 6: who's in her thirties and has so much creativity still.
Speaker 6: And then Tracy Alcox was working with her, and he's
Speaker 6: also a brilliant Yeah, because brilliant taste and they're just
Speaker 6: so creative. There's always like too many accessories and then
Speaker 6: we have to pare it down because that was like
Speaker 6: a glove and a hat and.
Speaker 5: You know, of the moments.
Speaker 6: But she did a great job of really creating each character.
Speaker 6: Just like Sex and the City, you can identify almost
Speaker 6: by their clothes without looking at their heads, like you
Speaker 6: know who's wearing what, and that characters are.
Speaker 5: Like that too.
Speaker 6: We've got our own identities and you can really see
Speaker 6: that in our in our costumes.
Speaker 5: It's cool.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Amy.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad to talk to you guys. It was
Speaker 5: a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: What a little angel. She was so great.
Speaker 1: Her dad being Shadow Stevens is like so wild to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like she was downplaying it, but he was
Speaker 1: like a big deal. He was a Hollywood square.
Speaker 2: Listen, she's beautiful, she's talented, and she's kind and she.
Speaker 1: Was a great pick. She was a great pick for
Speaker 1: that role. I'm like, you know, like just the beautiful hair,
Speaker 1: the beautiful the beautiful.
Speaker 4: Face, the beauty well.
Speaker 2: And it's like the best start of an episode of
Speaker 2: all time. I would say, there's never been such a
Speaker 2: fake out with SVU as this. Yeah, and I really
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Yeah, the trickery of it all and the
Speaker 2: choreo and the like gun dances.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's snoop. I mean, overall, great episode.
Speaker 1: I was like when I was looking up some of
Speaker 1: the reddits about this episode trying to see what people
Speaker 1: were saying about it, because I was really trying to
Speaker 1: like dig deep into like what it was based on,
Speaker 1: like because some people were like, oh, it's just jay
Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce, and then some people brought up the
Speaker 1: Kardashian things. I was really trying to see if there
Speaker 1: was anything else, like if there had ever been maybe
Speaker 1: two rappers where one of them had attacked another one's
Speaker 1: girlfriend as a revenge thing. Like I was just looking
Speaker 1: into it, and people were pissed that Snoop didn't get
Speaker 1: enough screen time. They were like, this was billed as
Speaker 1: a Snoop Dog episode because they were obviously playing it
Speaker 1: up on the commercials in real time, and he was
Speaker 1: not an it for very long.
Speaker 4: But he did great.
Speaker 2: Wait, I just watched something funny with I mean, when
Speaker 2: is Snoop not creating funny things first to watch? But
Speaker 2: I swear I just watched something viral that was making
Speaker 2: me laugh. But is my memory that bad? What's happened
Speaker 2: to me?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe well, maybe it was just like
Speaker 1: an Instagram video that you that you popped on.
Speaker 4: It was I gotta get off the internet. I have
Speaker 4: to to get off the internet. I worked on a
Speaker 4: rain match for Snoop. I don't know if I've said
Speaker 4: this on the podcast, but I worked for when they
Speaker 4: did this. They did. Netflix has this thing called Laughing.
Speaker 1: It's like the like a anniversary of the laugh in
Speaker 1: the show that like made Goldie Hawn a success and stuff.
Speaker 4: It had Lisa and Walter.
Speaker 1: It had all these people in it, and I'm in
Speaker 1: it nine months pregnant with Rosie. But I also wrote
Speaker 1: on it for a day or two, and I got
Speaker 1: to write this sketch with Michael Rappaport and Snoop and it.
Speaker 4: Was like the High News.
Speaker 1: It was like them doing like a little weekend update basically,
Speaker 1: but like all about weed stuff and Snoop was smoking
Speaker 1: weed the whole time.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's an icon, he's an idol. I'm obsessed
Speaker 2: with him. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what else
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 4: Are you a rapaport guy? Are you a rap?
Speaker 1: Do you like him because he likes the Housewives? But
Speaker 1: sometimes I think he turns people off?
Speaker 4: He does. I I'm I'm into it.
Speaker 2: I worked on with him, I was on Lights Out
Speaker 2: with him, and my thing is I love everyone that
Speaker 2: loves the Housewives. I love how passionate he and his opinions.
Speaker 2: I just don't like when I think Jerry O'Connell does
Speaker 2: this more. I don't like when men feel like they're
Speaker 2: so special and cool because they like something that women like. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make you difference. It's like, yeah, you like
Speaker 2: a good thing, but it's this where men who love
Speaker 2: Bravo and you're not cooler. It's like, I don't know
Speaker 2: why you think you deserve a pat in the back
Speaker 2: because you like something that women like, and I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what he wants. I don't think. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think. But that's that's my own internal I.
Speaker 4: Know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like our beloved Christmas party friend
Speaker 1: Jerry O'Connell, I do think he does that a little
Speaker 1: bit more than than the other guy does. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: post mortem of this raps sport, like him and Sheena
Speaker 1: text and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes on, watch what happened? Like he is texting. He's
Speaker 2: in it also, you know, is it a chip on
Speaker 2: my shoulder? But like people who just do out of
Speaker 2: the blue are like.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's a little all right, but
Speaker 2: people love them whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, speaking of
Speaker 2: people who turned into stand up comedy. When I'm in
Speaker 2: Phoenix doing stand up this month, Anisha from Family Karma
Speaker 2: will be opening the shows.
Speaker 4: Amazing. I wish I hang with her.
Speaker 1: I wish I could come early and see and oh
Speaker 1: it's oh, you're staying, You're going after us? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't stay because I have these fucking kids I got
Speaker 1: to look after.
Speaker 2: I would love if you ditched your kids for for
Speaker 2: for me and Anesia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Let's see other weeks going. Maybe if I can change
Speaker 1: my flight, that would.
Speaker 4: Be fun to be in pool. Let's be in a pool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because my flight out of Tempe, you guys is
Speaker 1: at like five am.
Speaker 4: It's not good. What did I learn this episode? Post mortem?
Speaker 5: Baby?
Speaker 2: Celebrities are people too, Yes, Like obviously they have money
Speaker 2: and privilege and cool stuff. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, like we all know as humans, those things
Speaker 2: don't always equal happiness or like ease, or that things
Speaker 2: don't affect you, or because she's a millionaire being attacked
Speaker 2: at gunpoint, it doesn't affect.
Speaker 4: Her as much, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, Like I think that we're in this like age
Speaker 1: of social media and fame where people are just like
Speaker 1: they completely forget that these people are people like Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 1: Like some people say she's like responsible for the downfall
Speaker 1: of the culture. I mean, people dislike her for a
Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. She did flaun her wealth a
Speaker 1: lot at that time, Like she was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if she's the smartest person on the planet whatever.
Speaker 1: Nothing justifies her feeling like she was going to die
Speaker 1: and that she was never going to see her kids
Speaker 1: again and that she was her sister was going to
Speaker 1: find her dead body.
Speaker 4: I mean, like we shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone should ever be wishing trauma on
Speaker 1: people like this, and like we'll we'll link to it.
Speaker 4: But like the.
Speaker 1: Interview with the thief, he was just so heartless and
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm sure she's traumatized.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, probably definitely traumatized, Like he did not care
Speaker 1: at all, but probably I guess because he knew he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna physically hurt her. But but I also think
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm I'm glad that Kim Kardashian like saw
Speaker 1: had perspective on it and was like, I don't do
Speaker 1: x y Z anymore. I don't flawn, I don't keep
Speaker 1: real shit on me, I don't ever post in real time.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the fact that she's like this
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen to me, where she could have
Speaker 1: just like been on a full victim tour where she
Speaker 1: is a victim, absolutely, but she could have just milked
Speaker 1: it and been like feel bad for me everybody I'm
Speaker 1: a like, But instead she was like this changed my life,
Speaker 1: Like this changed how I behave, and like maybe that's
Speaker 1: for the better. I mean, not that it happened, but
Speaker 1: like that's something semi good came out of it. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to say it's good that it happened, of course,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's like a silver.
Speaker 2: Lineer, and multiple things can be true, Like they could
Speaker 2: be culture vultures and not pay them like they could
Speaker 2: be they can do bad things and be doing bad stuff.
Speaker 2: But I don't I have a theory that like with celebrities,
Speaker 2: they're obviously rich and powerful, they really aren't compared to
Speaker 2: the people that really run this country and these mega
Speaker 2: industries and these horrific like owners of companies. But the celebs,
Speaker 2: it's easy to go h the Hollywood elite, and they're
Speaker 2: kind of a shield for the true rich horror shows
Speaker 2: that exist.
Speaker 4: And I think it's like on purpose.
Speaker 2: I think Hollywood people are like martyrs and like used
Speaker 2: as scapegoats for the actual evil people.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, But you can see where a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You can see where Kim Kardashian is spending her money.
Speaker 1: You can see where like Beyonce is probably spending her
Speaker 1: money like she just actually bought I think one of
Speaker 1: the most expensive houses in California. But you can't see
Speaker 1: what the like, nobody's really paying attention to what like
Speaker 1: the Koch Brothers are spending their money on.
Speaker 4: And like they're more evil, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that is true, and it's like these people
Speaker 2: are creating entertainment, music, fashion, whatever. Who like maybe they're
Speaker 2: void of any good human qualities, but like they are
Speaker 2: creating something that is for enjoyment and the money and
Speaker 2: they're doing a job. And then yeah, you think about
Speaker 2: these people on Epstein's Island and yeah, he's got were.
Speaker 1: Like pharmaceutical the family that just was like living off
Speaker 1: of people's like addictions to opioids, you know.
Speaker 2: And they get know what, we never are like talking
Speaker 2: about the top five hundred wealthy business people and the
Speaker 2: people that are you know, moving their factories overseas and
Speaker 2: exploiting labor and maybe Kardashian businesses are doing that, like
Speaker 2: I don't know where good American jeans are being made.
Speaker 2: But it's like but it is like, you know, we
Speaker 2: as a culture like so mad at like what these
Speaker 2: rich actors. It's like they are pushed into the line
Speaker 2: with Yeah, the evils are hidden so that's yeah, my lits.
Speaker 1: I just believe that when people want to like talk,
Speaker 1: they're just the most front facing wealthy people. They're not
Speaker 1: the ones that are the worst, Like for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not lobbying for oil.
Speaker 2: I mean these CEOs making two hundred and fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars a year, Like, I hate them more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that guy's not posting where he is
Speaker 1: on Snapchat because I'm gonna find out.
Speaker 2: No, but I hate that Kim Kardashian fucked with Marilyn
Speaker 2: Monroe's dress, Like I might never get over that. I
Speaker 2: think that's ludicrous. It's like it's museum. What are we
Speaker 2: doing here?
Speaker 1: I can't believe it was allowed. I really can't believe
Speaker 1: it was allowed. Well, because Ripley's owned it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like the Smithsonian.
Speaker 2: It was like Ripley's making a buck, yes, or Planet Hollywood.
Speaker 4: It was like someone silly owned it. Well, I can't
Speaker 4: believe we just.
Speaker 2: Went on a whole thing about celebrities or people too.
Speaker 2: I'm really embarrassed.
Speaker 1: That's what we learned, Pleasa. That's one lesson we learned.
Speaker 1: Celebrities are people too. You can't put them to tour
Speaker 1: you can't rob them, and you can't.
Speaker 2: I hate myself. I really can't believe this just happened.
Speaker 2: On our podcast, we cover such horrific crimes. Well, this
Speaker 2: was a little bit of a more. This was a
Speaker 2: little bit of a lighter episode. I mean, it's about
Speaker 2: a rat beef. It's like, no one gets sexually assaulted. Like,
Speaker 2: it's very little. It was a little bit of a
Speaker 2: lighter episode.
Speaker 1: So I think we can take a minute and say
Speaker 1: celebrities are people too, if we want.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean we're not. We're not redoing it,
Speaker 2: We're not retaking it.
Speaker 4: This is waout hearing.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, guys. Sometimes it's like cut print, it's done.
Speaker 1: We can't do anything. But and listen, I do have
Speaker 1: a name drop. It would be wild if I didn't
Speaker 1: mention it right here.
Speaker 4: But I did not meet him. I did not see him.
Speaker 2: But I did hear that Kanye was at the Comedy
Speaker 2: Store and he was watching my set on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: So do without what you will.
Speaker 2: But maybe I did another plus for the Jewish community
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 1: Yes, break him down one Jew at a time. Yes,
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that was the funniest I'm sorry when I
Speaker 2: woke up and he was like, honestly, I don't hate
Speaker 2: Jews anymore because of Jonah Hill and twenty two Jump Street, Like, I.
Speaker 4: Wait that happened. Oh you didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh I can't believe you missed this. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: like laughing about it. So a few months ago, you know,
Speaker 2: Kanye obviously did bad things about Jews and like that
Speaker 2: Nazis are kind of chill, like give Nazis a chance.
Speaker 2: But then he made a giant post that he loved
Speaker 2: Jonah Hill so much in this.
Speaker 4: Movie that he takes it back. I take it all back.
Speaker 1: He's like, my bad ruined my I've lost millions and
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. I've opened season on the Jewish community
Speaker 1: basically for hate and shit on the internet. But you
Speaker 1: know what, Jonah's my guy.
Speaker 4: I take it back. Okay.
Speaker 2: So Kanye posted and then when this is from TMZ,
Speaker 2: So March twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, is when he
Speaker 2: posted about it.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure Jonah Hill was on Cloud nine.
Speaker 2: So Kanye wrote, watching Jonah Hill in twenty one Jump
Speaker 2: Street made me like Jewish people again, know what should
Speaker 2: take anger against one or two individuals and transform that
Speaker 2: into hatred towards millions of innocent people. No Christian can
Speaker 2: be labeled anti Sime. Knowing Jesus is Jewish is a Jew.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jonah Hill.
Speaker 4: I love you. I can't believe you didn't see this.
Speaker 4: I did not see this.
Speaker 1: I think by at this point I had like turned off,
Speaker 1: turned down the volume on, like the full Kanye. But
Speaker 1: this is like, this is basic reasoning that a ten
Speaker 1: year old would know, Like just because a person with
Speaker 1: brown hair was mean to you, you can't be mad
Speaker 1: at all people with brown hair, Like this is like
Speaker 1: a crazy like I don't know, I do. He has
Speaker 1: mental illness. So I'm not gonna elaborate on this, but
Speaker 1: but that was I'm glad this thing.
Speaker 4: I'm glad Lisa's on the list. It's Jonah Hill, Lisa
Speaker 4: trigger Well. We don't know a thing.
Speaker 2: The just my friends that were clear said that he
Speaker 2: seemed to enjoy it. But I don't know any more information.
Speaker 2: But listen, do do I It's no secret I love Hollywood.
Speaker 4: I love show business.
Speaker 2: I was raised on movies, TV and US Weekly and
Speaker 2: Entertainment Tonight, and I'm thrilled.
Speaker 4: I'm thrilled it's huge for you. I love it. I
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 1: I hope he calls you and asks you to collab
Speaker 1: on some weird project for him.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I would even say to him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to me him. But
Speaker 2: I just love when I can tell my parents about
Speaker 2: a celebrity that they would know.
Speaker 1: They know who Kanye is. My mom does not know
Speaker 1: who Kanye is. You're right, this is more for the
Speaker 1: niece and nephews. I gotta put it in the niece
Speaker 1: nephew group chat. I think, yeah, he's gonna win me
Speaker 1: some points. Yeah, my mom would be like, who is that?
Speaker 1: Like I think I've heard of it, Like she would
Speaker 1: not know who that is?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, but that's my mom is very I mean,
Speaker 1: she's shut off. I think from a lot of if
Speaker 1: it's not like a mystery series on Netflix or Master
Speaker 1: or Dairy Girls or Dairy Girls. She loves that shit.
Speaker 1: I love Jarry Girls. Oh my god, Oh I forgot
Speaker 1: I have like five more episodes that to watch. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to what would Sister Peg do. This is
Speaker 1: our weekly segment where we direct you guys towards an
Speaker 1: organization or a blog or a article or something to
Speaker 1: give you more information about what we covered in today's episode. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there's no like charities for feuding rappers or celebrities that
Speaker 1: get robbed. So I want to point you to a
Speaker 1: video that I referenced in my research that Ice made Ripvice.
Speaker 1: I think they've completely gone under, but they do amazing
Speaker 1: journalistic work and have for a long time, and they
Speaker 1: did this. It's like, it's like a twenty minute video
Speaker 1: called using Snapchat to rob Influencers and it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: In the video, Tiered Dondie highlights how criminals have sought
Speaker 1: out robbing influencers based on their social media activity. She
Speaker 1: interviews victims and the criminals themselves to highlight the motives
Speaker 1: behind the crimes.
Speaker 4: And it's just interesting.
Speaker 1: If you liked what we talked about today, so we
Speaker 1: will put the link in our show notes and it
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Speaker 1: it's also over advice if you just want to google it.
Speaker 4: But that's that. Thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2: While you were talking, was I texting in our scandaval group.
Speaker 4: Chat, I was I felt it well that lalla clip. Okay.
Speaker 2: Next week's episode we're going to be doing Alien no
Speaker 2: UFOs though, so you'll see what that means. Season seven,
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