Speaker 1: Maybe that's Lisa, and we're just two girls that want
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with you. Dear sixteen year old Andrea,
Speaker 1: Hey gorgeous, Dear younger Lauren. Each episode is stories from people.
Speaker 1: I would deprive myself by myself obsessively because I was
Speaker 1: eating healthy. I couldn't understand that I had a problem
Speaker 1: with food. Losing my period scared me the most. My
Speaker 1: story starts when I was around seven. That's when I
Speaker 1: started to hate my body. Body image is like our
Speaker 1: inner picture of our outer self. Healthy behaviors play a
Speaker 1: much bigger role at all health than the actual number
Speaker 1: on the scales. Internal dialogue could be so powerful and
Speaker 1: often it's super negative and critical in a way that
Speaker 1: we wouldn't talk to other people that we care about.
Speaker 1: When you start to share your story, that gives other
Speaker 1: people the courage to share theirs. I know you would
Speaker 1: be proud now of how far you have come in
Speaker 1: your relationship to food, exercise, and to yourself. I felt freedom,
Speaker 1: I've gained relationships. I've found my true sense of self worth.
Speaker 1: There's one thing I need you to take away. You're
Speaker 1: going to be okay, Hey outweigh fam amy here and
Speaker 1: I have Cat Defata next to me. She will be
Speaker 1: joining me for today's episode, which if you've ever tried
Speaker 1: a celebrity diet or heard celebrities talk about this or that,
Speaker 1: or shoot, you've even listened to my four Things podcasts
Speaker 1: from back in the day, or heard me on the
Speaker 1: Bobby Bone Show before talking about some crazy diet or
Speaker 1: plan that I was doing. Sometimes people in the public
Speaker 1: eye have no idea the harm that they're doing. If
Speaker 1: I don't consider myself to be a celebrity, especially to
Speaker 1: the caliber we're going to be discussing about today, like Beyonce, Reese, Witherspoon,
Speaker 1: Jane Fonda, and now I'm not calling out these people
Speaker 1: like they have endorsed something or they're doing something wrong.
Speaker 1: But I think diet culture, magazine culture, online click bait
Speaker 1: will be like, hey, guess what Beyonce's doing the Master Clans.
Speaker 1: Do we have any idea of he's really doing it?
Speaker 1: Unless she posts about on her Instagram, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's where the facts are. You can maybe
Speaker 1: see people doing stuff online, but magazines and articles or
Speaker 1: news they pick it all up wanting you to click
Speaker 1: on it and think, Okay, if I just drink lemonade,
Speaker 1: maple syrup, and cayenne pepper for fourteen days. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look like Beyonce. So Cat and I are going to
Speaker 1: break down some of what we have to deal with
Speaker 1: is everyday humans trucking along, like driving in our car,
Speaker 1: list in the Bobby Bones Show, and hearing some offbeat
Speaker 1: diet advice. Because I take full responsibility for being a
Speaker 1: catalyst for that. I was at one point in time.
Speaker 1: I mean, people would ride into my four Things podcast
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, love you so sorry, but
Speaker 1: I had to stop listening because I'm being triggered by
Speaker 1: certain things. I remember, Yes, I remember listening, and that
Speaker 1: there was always talk about, oh my gosh, I did this,
Speaker 1: and this is just coming back to me. There's always
Speaker 1: talk about some green juice, glowing green smoothie. Yes, I
Speaker 1: remember I made it. It was disgusting. I didn't know
Speaker 1: I I actually I did like it. I did not
Speaker 1: like the flavor of it. But I remember. I mean
Speaker 1: that probably was like four or five years ago. For
Speaker 1: oh for years, Yes, that was it had fallen. I
Speaker 1: started me. Yes, I influenced a lot of people, and
Speaker 1: I was very adamant that you had to have hot
Speaker 1: lemon water every morning, a green smoothie for breakfast, maybe
Speaker 1: even for lunch, and then vegetables and maybe some keen
Speaker 1: wa for dinner or something. I adopted that for myself
Speaker 1: when I was trying to get pregnant, and it was
Speaker 1: a plan I went on someone I had talked to,
Speaker 1: actually a girl I went to church with in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: She had trouble getting pregnant, so she was trying this
Speaker 1: meal plan. So I bought the book, did the thing.
Speaker 1: I got certain results, and then I it became an
Speaker 1: obsession to where I traveled with lemons everywhere. I went
Speaker 1: to Haiti, I went to other countries with lemons in
Speaker 1: my bag because I needed hot lemon water every day.
Speaker 1: Or I thought I'm failing at the plan. And I
Speaker 1: mean I would deviate here and there, but I would
Speaker 1: try to set my morning up just right, like as
Speaker 1: long as I did the hot limon water. I mean,
Speaker 1: I shipped green smoothies to Haiti in my I mean
Speaker 1: I brought it myself. I didn't ship it ahead of time,
Speaker 1: but I would freeze them, wrap them up real good,
Speaker 1: put them in my luggage that I would check and
Speaker 1: then just cross my fingers and hope that they didn't
Speaker 1: explode on the plane. And I would call that extreme behavior, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And I influenced friends that would be with me, my
Speaker 1: you know family. That was a thing that I definitely
Speaker 1: screamed from the rooftops. And I would like to just
Speaker 1: apologize because I think you have some kind of platform
Speaker 1: and you're trying something that you think is like the
Speaker 1: thing at the moment, and I would do all kinds
Speaker 1: of different things, but I actually thought in that time
Speaker 1: I was super healthy well. And the other thing is
Speaker 1: maybe regardless of all of you're disordered eating, maybe that
Speaker 1: worked for you, that doesn't mean it's going to work
Speaker 1: for everybody else. And I think that's the issue and
Speaker 1: some of what we're going to talk about today is like,
Speaker 1: maybe that plan was working for your friend, it doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean it's gonna work. Right. I never got pregnant,
Speaker 1: by the way, in case you're like, oh, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get pregnant, what is it? I want to try it.
Speaker 1: And I just have to be more aware and more
Speaker 1: conscious about how I speak. I'm still not perfect. Cat
Speaker 1: is an expert. Lisa my co host for Outweigh as
Speaker 1: a registered dietitian. She has made it her passion to
Speaker 1: redefine what it looks like to be in that space. Again,
Speaker 1: we talk about all the different people online. They're part
Speaker 1: of this movement, and once you are aware of it,
Speaker 1: you start to see it everywhere and it just makes
Speaker 1: you smile real big, like, oh, we're not alone. Bobby
Speaker 1: keeps telling me, I'm woke now, but us certain things
Speaker 1: on the Bobby Bone Show. So what I want to
Speaker 1: bring up now is absurd celebrity diets. And this is
Speaker 1: something that we mentioned and on the Bobby Bones Show,
Speaker 1: and I immediately pulled it and thought, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about this on Outweigh, not what they're doing and
Speaker 1: what the diets are, because again that's not what this
Speaker 1: podcast is for. We're not here to give you tips
Speaker 1: and tools for you to continue on with any sort
Speaker 1: of patterns. But I just feel like it's click bait
Speaker 1: to where sometimes even on the show, we know that's
Speaker 1: going to be what's interesting for people to hear in
Speaker 1: their cars that yeah, oh, Reese Witherspoon did a fourteen
Speaker 1: day baby food diet or something like that. Snooky had
Speaker 1: some cookie cookie diet. Taylor Swift was drinking like cheese,
Speaker 1: seeds soaked in water. Again not giving like all the
Speaker 1: full details, but like these little things that you see
Speaker 1: somebody else doing and you think that for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to latch onto something they have or
Speaker 1: a body part that you want, you think by doing
Speaker 1: this one thing, you're suddenly going to get it, which
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you. Even though I is doing the
Speaker 1: lemon and the smoothies and eating pretty light, I still
Speaker 1: had days where my body was starving so naturally I
Speaker 1: binged even before my eating disorder came back, like full
Speaker 1: blown purging behavior. That was only after the death of
Speaker 1: my mom in two thousand and fourteen. So I would
Speaker 1: say for four years from two thousand ten thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: I just had binges, but I didn't ever feel the
Speaker 1: need to get rid of anything. My body was so
Speaker 1: hungry and I'd be like, why can't I stop eating?
Speaker 1: And was smart, Yeah, that's why I wanted food. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that those though to speak on that is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that they're so use the word
Speaker 1: clickbait is because extreme behaviors and extreme results, that's what
Speaker 1: draws people to things that's like sexy, extreme anything that's
Speaker 1: what we want as a culture. I haven't heard about
Speaker 1: the baby food diet, but like, yeah, it's like, oh
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Let me see if I can look into that.
Speaker 1: What's that going to do for me? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: it's just the idea of blending everything up. Not that
Speaker 1: she was getting like Gerber Gerber baby food, but so
Speaker 1: you're getting everything. And actually the plan that I followed
Speaker 1: for a while, she would talk about just for simpler digestion,
Speaker 1: you blend everything, so it's just you're getting the nutrients,
Speaker 1: but it's already broken down for you and your body's
Speaker 1: having to not do a bunch of work, and it
Speaker 1: moves through the other thing I want to point out
Speaker 1: when it comes to celebrities, any kind of celebrity, is
Speaker 1: that that's their job, especially for athletes. People look at
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes and like what are what are
Speaker 1: they eating? What is I don't know, like sports people,
Speaker 1: but like the Peyton man who's married to Giselle tom Brady,
Speaker 1: tom Brady, Oh my gosh, no, no, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you're saying this. I before before, yes, before I was
Speaker 1: awakened for your woke because tom Brady was talking about
Speaker 1: how he didn't consume night shades because of inflammation, which
Speaker 1: what is night shades? People might not well, bell peppers, tomatoes, mushrooms.
Speaker 1: Because again, he is a per professional athlete and his
Speaker 1: job is to perform as one of the top quarterbacks
Speaker 1: of all time. So I'm sure, yes, for his job
Speaker 1: he tries out different things to keep inflammation down. But
Speaker 1: then I thought, well, if Tom Brady is doing it
Speaker 1: and don't need to ask me, I thought, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I need to to eliminate night shades, and I did
Speaker 1: for quite some time. And I like salsa. I love salsa,
Speaker 1: and I remember one time putting salsa on something and
Speaker 1: I thought Tom Brady would never do this. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know it's because I read an article that
Speaker 1: was my point when I was making because Kat and
Speaker 1: I did not discuss this beforehand where we were going
Speaker 1: to go. So that is hilarious, Yes, it is. That's
Speaker 1: his job is to be a professional athlete, and so
Speaker 1: the workouts he's doing and the foods he's eating, those
Speaker 1: are designed by people that he worked very closely with.
Speaker 1: Not to say it's good for him or bad for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that diet is long term or
Speaker 1: if he has his own stuff, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: At the point is we shouldn't be looking for people
Speaker 1: who are trying to change your body for a movie
Speaker 1: role or trying to get into the Olympics. We shouldn't
Speaker 1: be looking at don't even get me started on the
Speaker 1: movie role thing. Because speaking of the Bobby Bones show, Eddie,
Speaker 1: our video producer, he just read Matthew McConaughey's book green
Speaker 1: Light and read that it's okay, very good. I just
Speaker 1: started the audio version, Are your audio or Audio? Because
Speaker 1: his voice, he's really good at it. So the book
Speaker 1: I'm currently like reading with my eyeballs is maybe you
Speaker 1: should talk to someone, which makes me think of Cat
Speaker 1: because Cats a therapist, and that book is written by
Speaker 1: a therapist. So I will recommend that one here to y'all.
Speaker 1: It's so good. But I did just start the audio
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey book because Eddie read it and said it
Speaker 1: was so good. And then he in the book talked
Speaker 1: about the diet he went on for Dallas Buyers Club
Speaker 1: and he had to lose fifty pounds or something ridiculous
Speaker 1: how much. I'm not in that part yet, but Eddie
Speaker 1: said he had two egg whites for breakfast, five ounces
Speaker 1: of fish for lunch with some vegetables, and then five
Speaker 1: ounces of fish with some vegetables for dinner. And that's it.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Dallas Buyers Club, it's about a
Speaker 1: person who ended up with HIV and so Matthew McConaughey
Speaker 1: playing that character had to have his body get to
Speaker 1: that stage. And so now Eddie, because he's reading that
Speaker 1: and he wants to trim up in the new year,
Speaker 1: has been on what he's calling the Matthew McConaughey, which
Speaker 1: that wasn't Matthew's intent of putting it in his book,
Speaker 1: but again, that was for his job. He was doing
Speaker 1: it for a role. And I just roll my eyes
Speaker 1: at Eddie every morning and laugh because it's not going
Speaker 1: to be sustainable and his body needs carbs. And also
Speaker 1: he's not playing the role of a sick person on
Speaker 1: TV or a movie. Well, and that's not even to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing that for that role. And I even think
Speaker 1: that's sad that that's encouraged in some spaces, because there's
Speaker 1: plenty of stories that I've read about, whether they're athletes
Speaker 1: or actors that have had to been on certain diets
Speaker 1: and their bodies look certain ways for certain things, and
Speaker 1: then once they're not in that space anymore, they have
Speaker 1: a really hard time sitting and being with their body
Speaker 1: because it doesn't look that way anymore because they've developed
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of diets. They help us develop
Speaker 1: disordered eating, which turns into eating disorders. So even though
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey did that for a movie and that was
Speaker 1: his job, I don't, as a therapist works with this,
Speaker 1: don't want to be like that's okay that he did
Speaker 1: that for that reason, because that could have really hurt
Speaker 1: him as well. I'm not to that part of the
Speaker 1: book yet, so I don't know how it affected him.
Speaker 1: But there are plenty of people that has and there's
Speaker 1: plenty of like gymnasts and and ice skaters specifically, who
Speaker 1: had to look a certain way for their sport and
Speaker 1: how to do extreme behaviors for their sport. It might
Speaker 1: have even promoted them while they are doing them, and
Speaker 1: then now that they are in that space anymore, it's
Speaker 1: been really hard on them to sit in what is
Speaker 1: their actual normal set point for their body right, And
Speaker 1: then that trickles down to us us, because then we
Speaker 1: try the extreme thing they and we go back to
Speaker 1: whatever or our body shifts and whatever season of life,
Speaker 1: and then we have trouble sitting with ourselves and it's
Speaker 1: a domino effect. And I also another book, Speaking of
Speaker 1: books that celebrities have written, I ordered Jane Fonda's book,
Speaker 1: the one from a while ago, like two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: called My Life So Far, because I saw an article
Speaker 1: somewhere that she discussed openly her eating disorder, and I thought,
Speaker 1: how in the world did I not know that Jane
Speaker 1: Fonda had an eating disorder? And why it was interesting
Speaker 1: to me is because as a kid, I have vivid
Speaker 1: memories of my mom doing Jane Fonda workouts in our
Speaker 1: living room. We had forest screen carpet, four a screen wallpaper,
Speaker 1: and apparently in the eighties four screen countertops like four
Speaker 1: screen was really was in and my parents loved it.
Speaker 1: But that's my that's where my brain goes as my
Speaker 1: mom like on our four screen carpet in front of
Speaker 1: the TV doing and scissor to three and pool weeds too,
Speaker 1: three four, and Jane Fonda right there on the TV
Speaker 1: just looking so cute and her leotard and her leggings
Speaker 1: and her little what are those things called leg warmers?
Speaker 1: And I just thought she was the coolest. And so
Speaker 1: when I would join my mom, it was about a
Speaker 1: thirty minute work out and my sister and I that's
Speaker 1: a memory that we have. So that's probably why the
Speaker 1: Jane Fonda things stood out to me. But again, I
Speaker 1: just saw her as this when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: this beautiful actress with workout tapes and my mom doing
Speaker 1: them right. So I'm gonna share little just parts from
Speaker 1: the book that I think we'll give you a picture
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about without you having to like
Speaker 1: read this whole chapter. So she starts off by saying,
Speaker 1: my feelings of imperfection centered on my body. It became
Speaker 1: my personal armageddon. She had a cat, by the way,
Speaker 1: just update you. She lost her mom to suicide, and
Speaker 1: she had several step moms that had eating disorders and
Speaker 1: they were just in her life life. And her dad
Speaker 1: played a role too. So then she goes into that
Speaker 1: my father was implicated as well. Dad had an obsession
Speaker 1: with women being thin. The Fonda cousins have told me
Speaker 1: that this was true of all the men in the
Speaker 1: family going back generations. On his deathbed, Doe Fonda asked
Speaker 1: his daughter, Cindy, have you lost weight? Yet? She wasn't fat.
Speaker 1: In parentheses, she put eating disorders abound and fond of women,
Speaker 1: and at least two of Dad's five wives suffered from bulimia.
Speaker 1: Once I hit adolescence, the only time my father ever
Speaker 1: referred to how I looked was when he thought I
Speaker 1: was too fat. Then it was always his wife who
Speaker 1: would be sent to let me know he was displeased
Speaker 1: that he wanted me to wear a different, less revealing
Speaker 1: bathing suit, a looser belt, or a longer dress. The
Speaker 1: truth is I was never fat, but that wasn't what
Speaker 1: mattered for a girl trying to please others. What mattered
Speaker 1: was how I saw myself, how I'd learned to see
Speaker 1: myself through others judgmental, object defying eyes. And then there's
Speaker 1: an astis here at the bottom of the chapter where
Speaker 1: she said, I don't mean to suggest that all girls
Speaker 1: who strive for perfection and feel inadequate end up with
Speaker 1: an eating disorder, but too many do. Every decade, five
Speaker 1: point six percent of people. Again, these statistics are from
Speaker 1: several years ago, but she said every decade, five point
Speaker 1: six percent of people with anorexy and believe me, a die,
Speaker 1: which is about twelve times higher than the annual death
Speaker 1: rate due to all causes of death among females ages
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty four in the general population. So I
Speaker 1: have goose bumps even while I read it, because I
Speaker 1: thought Jane Fonda loved herself and she how could she not? Yes,
Speaker 1: there she is and as you read more again that's
Speaker 1: just parts from one page, but you see into her
Speaker 1: insecurities and how she didn't feel that way. And I mean,
Speaker 1: fortunately something in her father's family was pasted down to him,
Speaker 1: which was then passed down to her. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different factors that probably make us why we
Speaker 1: are the way we are about our insecurities or our bodies.
Speaker 1: But to have that right into your own home, and
Speaker 1: then you know, she went and projected it on to
Speaker 1: everybody else with her workout videos. And meanwhile she was miserable.
Speaker 1: That was a season in her life where she wasn't
Speaker 1: even in tune with what was going on. And now
Speaker 1: she calls herself where she is in life now her
Speaker 1: third act, and now she's learned to accept her body
Speaker 1: and where she is. So I just think our conversation is,
Speaker 1: why wait till your third act in life? I'm in
Speaker 1: the probably my second act right now. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good I think. I think the second act. I
Speaker 1: think I don't know how they define it, maybe fifty
Speaker 1: seventy or something. Well, I'm just making that up, but
Speaker 1: I just I like thinking of it in that way,
Speaker 1: and why put it off? And why do we? Why?
Speaker 1: Why do we? Why does it take us so long?
Speaker 1: Cat Like, what do you think take so long for
Speaker 1: its to seep in? Even we see celebrities, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: stop following the latest clickbait because eventually that celebrity is
Speaker 1: going to write a memoir about it in their third act,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, I can't believe I wasted
Speaker 1: so many years worried about being thin. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was, as you're reading that, I was thinking that
Speaker 1: with any of these diets, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: eloquent I'm gonna be able to say this, but with
Speaker 1: any of these diets and with her and her workout
Speaker 1: videos and all that stuff, we're sending out the message
Speaker 1: that if you look like this or you do this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you get this body and you do this extreme
Speaker 1: diet that you will be happy and you will love
Speaker 1: yourself more. And even for the people that are in
Speaker 1: the spotlight, the beyonces that all of those kind of
Speaker 1: people that like they are their bodies are part of
Speaker 1: their brand. They don't need to look like that. There's
Speaker 1: no reason that that should be the goal of your
Speaker 1: brand is going to be having this body that every idealizes.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the issues. Is nobody, nobody,
Speaker 1: no matter who you are, should have to do a
Speaker 1: workout that you don't like, or follow a meal plan
Speaker 1: that makes you have to shrink your life in general
Speaker 1: to look a certain way. But we send the message
Speaker 1: that our bodies and what they look like are more
Speaker 1: important than how we feel on the inside. And I
Speaker 1: think that's overarching. That's why it's so attractive, because those
Speaker 1: diets and those workouts point us to what the world
Speaker 1: says will give us happiness and freedom from our insecurities,
Speaker 1: when really they just make them deeper. But we have
Speaker 1: to first get rid of the message that having a
Speaker 1: certain body and looking a certain way is that important.
Speaker 1: That is everywhere in our culture. It's everywhere. It makes
Speaker 1: me think of I love that we're talking about celebrities books,
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpsons. Oh my gosh, did I tell you to
Speaker 1: read that one? No? I don't think so was obsessed.
Speaker 1: Did you know they're turning it into an Amazon show? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're turning Maybe you should talk to Somebody into
Speaker 1: a show too. I was thinking that it would be
Speaker 1: a great movie that they're going to do a show. Okay, awesome.
Speaker 1: So I listened to Jessica Simpson's book a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago when I was like redoing my house. It's
Speaker 1: what I would listen to. And I've had so many
Speaker 1: clients read it too, because I grew up with Jessica
Speaker 1: Simpson and I never imagined but I remember when she
Speaker 1: talked about that mom picture, the mom jeans. I remember
Speaker 1: when that happened. And I'm sure on the Bobby Bones
Speaker 1: Show I probably reported on it. Yes, I mean, why
Speaker 1: is it the fact that Jessica Simpson looks like she's
Speaker 1: gained weight a big deal? Also, she didn't gain weight
Speaker 1: like she just that was an angle of a picture.
Speaker 1: But why does it matter anyway? Like that? Like we
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to what we are allowing to
Speaker 1: fill up our brains because I don't care if Jessica
Speaker 1: Simpson gained fifteen pounds, but yet there is something when
Speaker 1: media and click bait does make it a thing, then
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's a gossip that gives something to
Speaker 1: talk about. If Jessica Simpson gaining ten pounds and I
Speaker 1: feel better about myself, oh a hundred percent. If I
Speaker 1: see that, okay, then I don't feel so bad looking
Speaker 1: the way I look. When like, that's just that's a
Speaker 1: humanity problem of why are we looking to put people
Speaker 1: down in certain ways so we can feel better. Why
Speaker 1: can't we just lift ourselves up and they can be
Speaker 1: a separate thing. And you know. Also mentioned in Jessica's
Speaker 1: book is the time that her record label told her
Speaker 1: when she signed and she was a teenager not I mean,
Speaker 1: who cares what her body looks like anyways, but there's
Speaker 1: no way she needed to lose fifteen pounds and they
Speaker 1: told her, Okay, yeah, beautiful voice, great face, lose fifteen
Speaker 1: pounds and you've got a deal or whatever kind I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but I mean to hear that and what
Speaker 1: she would have to do, because not all of our
Speaker 1: bodies are created. This is another very important point, but
Speaker 1: not all of our bodies are created to be at
Speaker 1: the size that they wanted her to be at. She
Speaker 1: had to literally develop an eating disorder to get to
Speaker 1: that point. And when it comes to all of these
Speaker 1: things that all of these people are promoting, I could
Speaker 1: do every thing that Jane Fonda did every workout. I
Speaker 1: would follow her meal plan exactly. And it does not
Speaker 1: mean that I would look the same way as her.
Speaker 1: I could follow whatever Beyonce does. I could say, oh
Speaker 1: I have I also on this absurd celebrity diets list,
Speaker 1: there's like what Miranda Kurd did, which is a Victoria's
Speaker 1: Secret model. And I think aren't models like more rare
Speaker 1: than pro athletes are, like the five Players or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess her bodies are programmed and wired differently.
Speaker 1: I totally this could be This also could not be true.
Speaker 1: This is just something that I read somewhere that Gigi
Speaker 1: Hadid has some kind of thing where she's not allowed,
Speaker 1: like her body will not gain weight. That's a thing
Speaker 1: where you can't put on weight. And so why are
Speaker 1: we why are we aiming to have the body of
Speaker 1: somebody who her body doesn't allow her to do that
Speaker 1: My body does. And so I think all of that
Speaker 1: to say I could do everything that Gigi Hadid does,
Speaker 1: could do everything that Giselle does, and it does not
Speaker 1: mean that my body would look like there's because my
Speaker 1: body is programmed differently, totally genetically. It's just different. And
Speaker 1: I even I work in the fitness industry in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and I could take just as many cycling classes as
Speaker 1: the instructor next to me and eat everything she does,
Speaker 1: and my body will never look like hers. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm out of shape. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I don't know what I'm doing. It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I'm anything less than her. It just means we
Speaker 1: have different bodies, right, And I gotta give Cat a
Speaker 1: shout out because she had tryouts last weekend. Is that
Speaker 1: what it's called. I don't know you will make auditions,
Speaker 1: but I think tryout brings me back to like high
Speaker 1: school soccer. So she had auditions to become a well
Speaker 1: for this a new spin cycle place here in Nashville.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to tell y'all where in a second
Speaker 1: because she posted a clip on Instagram of one of
Speaker 1: her old cycle classes of her on the bike motivating
Speaker 1: you through class, and it was so inspirational. I thought
Speaker 1: I was proud of you, like get it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I was. I was just sitting and come to
Speaker 1: watching it. I don't I'm not the biggest spin person,
Speaker 1: but I am going to go take your class to
Speaker 1: support you and feel motivated. I already told her that
Speaker 1: when she tells me to turn the knob up to heavy,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it. I mean, just so that the
Speaker 1: class things I'm doing, I'm gonna pretend to turn the
Speaker 1: knob and I'm just going to keep writing. But if
Speaker 1: people are in Nashville, where you're gonna So if you're
Speaker 1: in Nashville, there's a studio called Full Ride Cycling. It's
Speaker 1: in the twelfth South neighborhood. It's on tenth and it's amazing.
Speaker 1: The instructors are amazing. Then obviously that there's three new
Speaker 1: instructors and I think in the first week of February
Speaker 1: I'll start. But it is just a place where you
Speaker 1: can go and it doesn't matter what you look like.
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm glad you even said that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fake turn my knob because a cycling class is
Speaker 1: something that should be self driven, Like if you want
Speaker 1: to add resistance. You do it if you don't want
Speaker 1: to ignore what I'm saying. Ignore what I'm saying. Listen
Speaker 1: to your body. You know it better than me. But
Speaker 1: this play say is one of the places that has
Speaker 1: helped me survive the last year, just because of how
Speaker 1: loving they are and they want to know you and
Speaker 1: they want to know your story, and they like, no
Speaker 1: matter where you live, make sure you find a healthy place.
Speaker 1: There are places it's like a mind body spirit like
Speaker 1: mentally it's not going to mess with you. Yes, because
Speaker 1: I've definitely been at gym's where mentally it just through me.
Speaker 1: When I was twenty two twenty three, like right out
Speaker 1: of college, joined a gym in Austin, and I remember
Speaker 1: one of the trainers there. I went to this one
Speaker 1: meeting trying to learn more about nutrition. I didn't know
Speaker 1: much at all, and I said that I ate cereal
Speaker 1: for breakfast and she looked and said, you eat cereal
Speaker 1: like in period ever? I know, But then I eventually
Speaker 1: turned into that person. To thank goodness, now I'm back
Speaker 1: to where if I want to eat a bowl a
Speaker 1: cereal in the morning, I can. It impacted me for
Speaker 1: a long long time and I would be in spin
Speaker 1: class with like super competitive people, and I thought that's
Speaker 1: probably where I developed I dislike for spin because I
Speaker 1: think originally I didn't always dislike it as much. But
Speaker 1: so maybe I'll enjoy your class. But just keep that
Speaker 1: in mind. Like what Cat's saying is, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a place to work out, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of you may not be in Nashville, but don't go
Speaker 1: to someplace just because you just because they have on
Speaker 1: their media and their promotions bodies that you want to have.
Speaker 1: That's not what you should look like when you're going
Speaker 1: to find somewhere to move your body. It should be okay,
Speaker 1: where do I feel safe? Where do I feel supported?
Speaker 1: Where do I feel like I can show up? No
Speaker 1: matter if I'm having a good body image day or
Speaker 1: a bad body image day or a neutral body image day.
Speaker 1: I think that I mean I had to reform my
Speaker 1: whole view on movement through my recovery, and that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that I help a lot of my
Speaker 1: clients do because it's so intertwined. I was a huge runner.
Speaker 1: That was part of my eating disorder, so I had
Speaker 1: to take a break from running and then figure out
Speaker 1: how to love it again. In a different way. And
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that you said is
Speaker 1: the competitiveness. There's a lot of studios that's like this
Speaker 1: person and do this many pull ups, like you have
Speaker 1: to do this, like it's all competitions, or this person
Speaker 1: got this many points in this race or this person
Speaker 1: and it's like no, like you judge you based on you.
Speaker 1: How did you do? How do you feel? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you listen to yourself? Do you feel like
Speaker 1: you've got what you needed? Sometimes what I need is
Speaker 1: just to hear the instructors say kind things to me,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't have anything to do with burning calories,
Speaker 1: and then say the place one more time, full ride cycling,
Speaker 1: full ride cycling, Okay, just in case people want to
Speaker 1: try it out and they are in Nashville. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say some of the diets. I know
Speaker 1: we were talking about celebrity diets, but the celebrity workouts
Speaker 1: like who's whose trainer? I need to go do what
Speaker 1: ever they're doing. It's the same thing of like they
Speaker 1: might be doing this extreme training program because of what
Speaker 1: their brand is, or because of what they're working on professionally,
Speaker 1: or because their professional athletes. You do not need to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know sports, so I can't call out any professional.
Speaker 1: You don't need to do this person who's in the
Speaker 1: NBA's work out, Like, there's no need for that. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, just some the you don't need two days. No,
Speaker 1: there's no reason that you or I would need it
Speaker 1: to a day. We need like half of a day,
Speaker 1: like half of one work out at that gym, the
Speaker 1: same one where I was at three oh most people
Speaker 1: there were there morning and night and it was just
Speaker 1: part of the it was like a trathlon type gym,
Speaker 1: and it was the only way you could really get
Speaker 1: your training in honestly. So Okay, that's gonna put a
Speaker 1: wrap on this chat. But just know where to look
Speaker 1: when it comes to you. And and if you need
Speaker 1: to seek professional help, then maybe you do need to
Speaker 1: meet with a dietitian or someone that can help walk
Speaker 1: you through that, someone that specializes in disordered eating and
Speaker 1: eating disorders, because the last thing you want to do
Speaker 1: is find someone that doesn't and then it perpetuates the problem.
Speaker 1: I've learned that there's a big difference. There's like a
Speaker 1: line in the sand of like people that are that
Speaker 1: are woke and then and I can I add that, Like,
Speaker 1: even if you're somebody who's like, oh, this is hitting
Speaker 1: something and me, I need to go figure out what
Speaker 1: my stuff is and I want to talk to a professional.
Speaker 1: It is important to find somebody who specializes in eating
Speaker 1: disorders and disordered eating, whether it's a dietitian or a therapist,
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of in quote healthy behaviors
Speaker 1: that some people will promote as even a professional unknowingly
Speaker 1: not even trying to cause harm like you're saying, and
Speaker 1: like a lot of people would promote exercise as a
Speaker 1: form of like self care or taking care of your
Speaker 1: health in general. And if you don't know the back
Speaker 1: ends of disordered eating and how eating disorders work and
Speaker 1: how they're all interentwined, you can have somebody cheerly do
Speaker 1: on something that's not great, and then you can be
Speaker 1: what my therapist told me to and you use it
Speaker 1: as That's what I get worried about of. You know
Speaker 1: that when we share articles like this, just flippant lee
Speaker 1: on the show, and I know I need to relax
Speaker 1: because we are We're doing a show. Bobby's doing a show.
Speaker 1: He's not He's like, this isn't my thing I'm not
Speaker 1: on that way. Okay, them down, but I just know
Speaker 1: that it's my job to at least say real quick,
Speaker 1: like before he ends the segment. I just say that simply.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I did. I just I just
Speaker 1: want to make sure we don't trigger anybody. And then
Speaker 1: Bobby made a point of like, well, but there are
Speaker 1: healthy people that could handle whatever it is that he said.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was this article, might
Speaker 1: have been something else that I said that about. Actually
Speaker 1: it wasn't the celebrity one. Now I'm rambling, but you
Speaker 1: get My point is that like there's some people that
Speaker 1: whatever Bobby said, they literally might be able to handle
Speaker 1: it because they don't have disordered patterns, so that information
Speaker 1: they might receive like the whatever the logical things in
Speaker 1: it are. But someone that's unhealthy like me, if I
Speaker 1: was a listener, I would have used it as like,
Speaker 1: oh now I have a reason in an excuse to
Speaker 1: continue because the look at them. Yeah. Okay, So that
Speaker 1: is a wrap on today's episode. We hope you are
Speaker 1: having a great Saturday. Kat is the host of her
Speaker 1: very own podcast called You Need Therapy, which you should
Speaker 1: definitely check out, and we will be back next Saturday
Speaker 1: with another episode It'll be mean Lisa, and I think
Speaker 1: we have a guest named Gabby who's doing amazing things
Speaker 1: for people online to help heal their food and body
Speaker 1: issues and not pass it down to the next generation,
Speaker 1: which is I was trying on dresses with a friend
Speaker 1: the other day and she said, I don't like my
Speaker 1: arms in the stress. And then she stopped herself and
Speaker 1: she said, honestly, I don't even think there's anything wrong
Speaker 1: with my arms. I just grew up hearing my mom
Speaker 1: talk badly about her arms all the time that now
Speaker 1: I just obsess about my arms. But the same thing
Speaker 1: is with me, my grandma, my mom me. I even
Speaker 1: said something to Stashira, my daughter, who's thirteen, adopted genetically.
Speaker 1: She's Haitian, I am America, very different, and she's like,
Speaker 1: felt my arm or felt something, and she's she's a kid,
Speaker 1: and she's just like, oh, mom, soft or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I said, well, it's okay, you're you won't have this problem.
Speaker 1: And then I know we're like, I want to take
Speaker 1: this word right now, I know. And then I think
Speaker 1: my friend Mary was on FaceTime at the time, and
Speaker 1: she said, it's not a problem, and I thought, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so glad Mary said that right away
Speaker 1: because I was able to redirect and say, you're right,
Speaker 1: it's not a problem, but we do have different arms
Speaker 1: and but it's unlearning. And like I said, I'm here
Speaker 1: to admit my faults and that I'm on this journey too.
Speaker 1: I'm never preaching at you at all. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to make sure nobody feels alone in this crazy space.
Speaker 1: You feel lonely because not a lot of people are
Speaker 1: talking about how they feel really about their bodies and
Speaker 1: what they're thinking in private. And for me, the arm
Speaker 1: thing was that's something that was from the generation before us,
Speaker 1: and like we can change that. So anyway, all this
Speaker 1: to say, next Saturday will be a good chat about that.
Speaker 1: Thank you Cat for joining, and if you have anything
Speaker 1: you want to share with us, you can email us
Speaker 1: Hello oh at outwag dot com. MHM