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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Kaddy Armstrong and.

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Speaker 2: Jackie and he.

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Speaker 3: Arm Drong live from the Factist.

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Speaker 2: Healthcake that is the post Trump factist presidency under a

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Speaker 2: theocraphy of oligart On a Tuesday, sure words, never spoken signor.

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Speaker 3: I was just watching MSNBC and they got me all

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Speaker 3: frightened about something. I don't even know what they're talking about. Today,

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Speaker 3: we're under the tutelage of our general.

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Speaker 2: Manager, Donald J. Trump, executive branch cracking the whipper in chief.

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Speaker 3: By god, Seriously, I was watching MSNBC and you it's

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Speaker 3: a combination of fascist dictatorship slash theocracy slash billionaire titan oligarchy,

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Speaker 3: hellscape of racism and greed is what we're living under.

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Speaker 3: Is that what they think their viewers want? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if it works for them. That's something though.

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Speaker 2: They're eleven viewers, I don't know. They ought to just

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Speaker 2: ask them one by one what they want.

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Speaker 3: That's an excellent point. They can call all their viewers

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Speaker 3: in the morning, say what would you like today? What

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Speaker 3: do you what are you in the mood for and

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Speaker 3: then just crack the shore on it.

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Speaker 2: To me, increasingly, the cable news especially, but even your

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Speaker 2: your network news is are merely objects of amusement there, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, the relics of days gone by. They're they're flailing,

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Speaker 2: They're full of crap, and I just I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't think they need to be paid much.

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Speaker 3: Heed, Honestly, I would agree with you. So what is it?

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Speaker 3: Just so? Is information just so dispersed now that there's

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Speaker 3: no go to what's the mainstream media talking about today?

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Speaker 3: Does that just not exist anymore?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're a handful, I think, and cable news is

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Speaker 2: still fun to to be rate and make fun of.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think your New York Times, your WA

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Speaker 2: Poe have a fair amount of poll and significance, but

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Speaker 2: the list is very short these days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree there's no need to comment on

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Speaker 3: things that are irrelevant. But what is relevant?

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Speaker 2: I mean? Actually, I was slipping channels last night and

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Speaker 2: it live. But she was just sitting there looking mildly

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Speaker 2: attentive while some guest of hers was ranting on about

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Speaker 2: roughly what you just said, and I thought, now, I'm

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Speaker 2: not here for that guy. I want to hear joy

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Speaker 2: read special brand of unhinged, you know, moronitudes, and I

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Speaker 2: wasn't getting it.

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Speaker 3: So I kept flipping right, and I realized, if you're

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Speaker 3: under forty five, probably you don't even know what these

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Speaker 3: channels are or who these people are. And good for you.

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Speaker 3: That's just the way things change. What was the general

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Speaker 3: manager again?

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Speaker 2: And why?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: It was a rambling description of Trump's a strong executive,

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Speaker 2: a seizing of executive power. All right, it's quite remarkable

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Speaker 2: and a lot of you folks, depending on how deeply

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Speaker 2: headline stuff, but I mean he is like completely restructured

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Speaker 2: changes in the way Black History Month is presented by

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Speaker 2: the government. He's making change, which is left right and center.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about that, for better or worse on

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Speaker 3: all these different categories. And lots of illegals rounded up yesterday,

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Speaker 3: into more. But that continues to be a hot story

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Speaker 3: and long overdue and much appreciated by most of America,

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Speaker 3: which again the mainstream media doesn't seem to grasp. My

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Speaker 3: favorite story going on is certainly this whole AI China thing.

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Speaker 3: Holy crap, Nvidia lost two thirds of a trillion dollars

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Speaker 3: of their stock price yesterday, which is really something. If

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Speaker 2: Chips, at least China did so. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how that's going well, jack I Joe Geddy

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Speaker 2: often referred to as the great Contrarian. At least I'd

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Speaker 3: Okay, and why do you think that.

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Speaker 2: I'm no drama? Remember no drama Obama. He was a

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Speaker 2: freaking Shakespeare festival next to me. Okay, I am no drama, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I will I will explain going forward. But the long

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Speaker 2: and short some of the claims are unproven. Also, it's

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Speaker 2: much easier to follow the leaders and say, hey, I've

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Speaker 2: almost caught up to you, and I spent less money.

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Speaker 2: But that's you know what not being a leader is.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope you're right. It'd be somewhat troubling if

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, China can come up with a better

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Speaker 2: The social media algorithm thing is indisputable. TikTok is an

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess that's why I think it's definitely possible

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Speaker 3: on the AI thing. I mean, we got a lot

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Speaker 3: why it wouldn't be true for you.

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Speaker 2: I also, but of course you're not the great contrarian?

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Speaker 2: Are you? The great go alonger? Guys?

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Speaker 3: They call it like everybody calls you. Let's start to

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Speaker 3: show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this.

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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, January twenty eighth, year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Where I'm strong in getting an approve of this program.

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Speaker 2: If GC is easier and quicker for you, you can

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Speaker 2: just go with that. It's less compersome. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: begin the show now officially according to FCC Rules of Regulations.

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Speaker 2: Here we go at Mark.

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Speaker 4: Blackgan, Indigenous people love color, Blackgan, Indigenous people love color.

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Speaker 5: LESTI in gay by tans gender.

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Speaker 4: Well the place sing sing along if you know the words?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that.

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Speaker 2: Is you know, Jack, I'm so sorry you're stuck in

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Speaker 2: tragic traffic because Katie's horror. She reeled from that, just

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Speaker 2: as if she a blow was struck. Well, because I

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Speaker 6: And instantly missed who I was before I saw it,

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Speaker 6: that f and psycho.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, everybody found down. Everybody keep going, well, okay, Jack,

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Speaker 2: So what was that? Oh?

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Speaker 6: So the worst person on the planet is here?

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Speaker 2: That was That's a singer by the name of Molly

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Speaker 2: Gawler who's released a new woke anthem Jack entitled bypok Okay.

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Speaker 2: Is this an actual, like known singer or is this

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Speaker 2: I mean, because everybody's a singer, Michael sings something right now,

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was so damn funny it is.

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Speaker 2: out who this babe is, oh great, I just don't

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Speaker 2: don't dos her and rule her life. She's an idiot.

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Speaker 2: An idiot is not a capital offense. Well, she's a cultist.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, being an idiot is not a capital offense.

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Speaker 2: Did you speak of bipop Did you see some of

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Speaker 2: that today. From a number of different parts of the

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Speaker 2: government now that they're rooting out the d DEI where

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Speaker 2: oh where they were emphasize that we need an BIPOC

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Speaker 2: Where the emphasis was on racial preferences. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 2: doing affirmative action, race based hiring, just completely. They believe

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Speaker 2: does something about it. Yeah, that's really interesting. As following

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Speaker 2: John Roberts now famously said, and it probably going to

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Speaker 2: racism is to end racism, right. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 2: your children today at school. Yeah, really interesting. So I'll

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Speaker 2: coming along? It's it's coming together, it's coming along, and

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Speaker 2: So that's not to be confused with the great What

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Speaker 2: tomorrow the long awaited RFK Junior hearing. The editorial board

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Speaker 2: you're not thinking about some of the issues that you

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Speaker 2: agree with wholeheartedly that he does not, and you just

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Speaker 2: haven't heard it yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, more on

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Speaker 2: that to come. Why don't we go ahead and get

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Speaker 2: into our freedom loving court of the day continued is

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Speaker 2: our series unchanged? George Bernard Shaw. Progress is impossible without change,

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Speaker 2: and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the flip of that is what you're always saying.

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Speaker 2: heard various lovely poet type people say change is what

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Speaker 2: life's perfectly fine, it's weird. I think about the rebellious

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Speaker 2: also perfectly fine. Speaking of things, that are fine for

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Speaker 2: AI crowd. Fascinating. Yeah, I wish I had any insight

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Speaker 2: whatsoever on the question. Well you don't, but neither do they.

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Speaker 2: Was They said, it takes a tremendous amount of time, energy,

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Speaker 2: it's much much easier to look what everybody, look at

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Speaker 2: I mean there could be There're no committees, there was nothing.

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Speaker 2: You drive in the left lane too slow, you wear

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Speaker 2: TikTok sort of videos, and it's getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that an hour two. In the pushback

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Speaker 2: specifically to Selena Gomez by the order Guy Homan actually

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Speaker 2: referring to her, So, oh my, didn't see that one

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Speaker 2: on one bout coming right, Selena go. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: Selena Gomez will get into something with Tom Holman. I

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Speaker 2: was saying last week, No, I wasn't all right so

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Speaker 2: much more on that in the psycho social behavior of

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Speaker 2: young women in politics these days. Interesting insights. Anyway, Let's

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Speaker 2: figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with

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Speaker 2: Katie Green. Katie starting with the NBC.

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Speaker 6: Public schools are trying to prodect undocumented students from Trump

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Speaker 6: immigration raids.

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Speaker 2: Right, nobody's grabbing students out of classrooms. Shut up. Did

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Speaker 2: you see the picture of the home depot somewhere floating

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Speaker 2: around yesterday? An empty home depot? About how none of

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Speaker 2: the employees showed up because they're worried about Trump's raids?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, you're either you're either a criminal who's

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Speaker 2: here illegally and you should be concerned, or you're not.

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Speaker 2: And if you are concerned, you need to read better

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Speaker 2: newspapers or something. I don't know what to say about

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Speaker 2: that New York Times.

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Speaker 6: White House orders, federal grants, pause as firings, reshape the

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, there are all sorts of different policy changes

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Speaker 2: going on in that world. We don't really have time

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Speaker 2: to discuss. But man, he is shaking it up.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of shaking it up, USA, today Trump order recognizes

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Speaker 2: Advocates call it cruel and lawless. Yeah, the State Department

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Speaker 2: under Rubio announced the other day passports no longer can

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Speaker 2: You gotta choose one. That's your only choice going forward

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Speaker 2: of what we were talking about yesterday, which is if

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Speaker 2: you create a mess and then yell and cry that

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Speaker 2: those of us cleaning the mess up have created a

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Speaker 2: little dust in the air. No, no, if those are

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Speaker 2: the eggs that must be cracked, he says, mixing the

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Speaker 2: metaphors to make the omelet of reforming immigration in this country,

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Speaker 2: then we're gonna crack them. You had your chance, you

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Speaker 2: screwed everything up. And also, if you don't like the

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Speaker 2: immigration law, then make it your goal to elect House

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Speaker 2: members and senators who will change immigration law. But otherwise

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Speaker 2: we should follow the current law. Yeah, this whole No,

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Speaker 2: we should ignore the current laws, and anybody who suggests

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Speaker 2: enforcing them as a meanie and not a Christian. According

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Speaker 2: Those are your choices virtue signaling Weenie's from.

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Speaker 6: ABC News Israel says eight of the thirty three hostages

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is an underreported story and super interesting. Those

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Speaker 2: Short doesn't get into a beef of Pete Hegzath next week,

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Speaker 2: but right now, it's Selena Gomez against uh, poor Tom

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