1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: M m M. Welcome back to another edition in the 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hands and 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by the great Mark Sessler and 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: also the great Greg Rosenthal. What is happening boys fifty weekend? 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: For YouTube? I was mostly off, but Cessler on Saturday 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: posting all day post personal record there. Mark was very proud, Well, 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: it's you know it was. It was brisk, I'll I 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: will give you that um. And I wasn't expecting because 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the news that came in 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: was essentially unplanned. And it's like Dan was on Sunday 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: and I texted, I was like, I'm sure it's busy 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: for you. Correct, and it was for a stretch, But 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: it's like, I think what happened on Saturday was we 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: got hit with a string of injuries, and not just 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: low level ones but like big names. Yeah, I mean 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: you had Dennis Pitt out for the year, busted hip, 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin blew out his knee. That's amazing, your issue 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: for the Eagles, and we're gonna talk about both those things. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: Also coming up today, we have Rex ryan uh an 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: issue with the quarterback whether he has ultimate say, and 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: also the quarterback Battle for the Jets and some other 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: quarterback battles. UM, all up ahead and we have some 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: iTunes update possibly right now. Greg. We we hope to 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: be on iTunes, but this is kind of a recurring thing. 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: The producers promise us we're gonna be there. Right now. 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: We might just be podcasting, you know, into nowhere, but 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: hopefully later today everyone that is finding the podcast will 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: be able to subscribe and and if not, we'll just 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: look like it. Yeah, it's gone from on Twitter, getting 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: tweets like positive tweets say hey, guys haven't been able 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: to find the podcast? When is it gonna be on iTunes? 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: To somebody today tweeted to Mark and I I don't 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: believe you guys have a podcast, but it exists. It's 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: happening right now in real time, and hopefully by this 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: week it will be on iTunes, maybe even by Monday. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: But Rich Eyes and podcast. I just saw an email 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Land that he has now ten million downloads. We do 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: not have one yet, but I want to. I want 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: to throw it out there. When we do get on iTunes, 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: we will have a special reward for wherever is our 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: first downloader. UM, I'm thinking it's going to be currently 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: the two thousand seven uh Tennessee Titans media guide that's 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: being used to hold up my computer computer monitor. And 44 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: also there's a Houston Texans my lar balloon, non inflated 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: that has not been claimed in a giveaway in the newsroom. 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: I also mail that out. What do you guys think 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: about that? Well, you've just motivated our our base group 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: of listeners, no question. I mean, it doesn't sound like 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: that great of a prize, but people forget two thousand 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: seven big year in Tennessee. A lot going on there. 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Hainsworth and plus a mystery personality from NFL Network will 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: be signing this media guide. Correct. Yeah, I think we'll 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: all sign it. I think we'll all sign and then 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: maybe even like put a some type of inspirational message 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: and inside. It's really exciting. But we should we should 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: get going because black Tie behind the glass is used 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: to having to push forward with Damna check on the show. Uh, 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: he's having to do that with us now, So we 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: should get going into the actual content and let's start Greg, 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: why don't you get it started with the fallout of 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin suffering a torn a c l in Eagles 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: practice on Saturday. It's crazy, you know, we can go 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: weeks of the NFL season where there aren't big end 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: of season injuries that change playoff contenders. And and we 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: said it on Saturday, Mark two big time players for 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: potentially good teams are now out for the season. Macklin, 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: to me, is the lesser injury of the two compared 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: to Pitta, because I think they're so deep, not just 69 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: that wide receiver, but especially at tight end. At practice 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: on Monday we heard reports three tight ends on the 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: field at the same time, sellec the rookie arts, James Casey. 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: They're very deep at running back. Maclin is such a 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: big figure of that passing game, but it's a new 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: passing game, and I do think they can survive without him, 75 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: but you know, it's a big, big loss for him, 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: especially Hetty into a contract here. Yeah, And I mean 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: Greg wrote a nice piece Saturday night about this that 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: framed it that way. But also just that we don't 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: know what we're gonna get from Chip Kelly. And it's 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: certainly though, isn't a line up two wide receivers and 81 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: throw to them all day long kind of offense? He 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: I think from the start was Macklin play was going 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: to play a big role in this offense. But Casey 84 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: especially seems to be this X factor that may just 85 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: get more targets, more snaps at this point, more looks 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: than he would have. But also that running game is 87 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: going to use a combination that's a deep backfield. I 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: know Greg's a big fan of the Eagles backfield number one, 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: but it's like they're gonna get Kelly's gonna find a 90 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: way and he's enough time to get around this loss. Yeah, 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubting it's a big loss because 92 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: what Macklin brought to that team, his skill set was 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: perfect for what Kelly does. But the one thing you 94 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: also hear about Chip Kelly, and it's very interesting to 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: see how this all plays out at this level, but 96 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: he was known as a guy that could take recruits 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: that maybe weren't guys that were thought as big time 98 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: guys at Oregon and then Oregon and then turn them 99 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: into uh, productive players in his offense. So we'll see 100 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: if he can do that with some of these lesser guys. 101 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Do I think Riley Cooper has a yard season in him? 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, But now he's gonna have an opportunity 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: to step up. Cooper did start a few games I 104 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: think it was in two thousand eleven and started three games, 105 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: played very well in those games. He's pretty talented. Damaris Johnson, 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: I think is can be more than a return er. Uh. 107 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm just curious what de Sean Jackson does with this 108 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: opportunity because I looked at Macklin versus Jackson as Okay, 109 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: both of those guys are here this year, let's see 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: how they fit with Kelly. One of them is back 111 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: next year. Jackson salary goes way up. Macklin is a 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: free agent that they were probably fighting to maybe stay 113 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: because you can't pay that much money at wide receiver. 114 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: Now Jackson has a chance really to be that top 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: sort of guy. He hasn't shown that he can really 116 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: do that at the NFL level in terms of being 117 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: a dominant number one guy, and this is a good 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: chance to. Yeah, you'd have to say that Jackson was 119 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: potentially on the bubble to not make the roster a 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: year from now. But Macklin, the timing for him is 121 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: really rough. I think unless the Eagles say we still 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: feel like he was he's been so consistent in each 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: of his four seasons that they might have confidence that 124 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: if we keep him on, we're gonna get the same 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: thing when he comes back. But you know, he's in 126 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: a contract here, that's that's not a good time to 127 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: get injured the way the way he has. He's years old, though, 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: and he could sign a short term deal and then 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: be back out on the free agent market. He's pretty young, 130 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: I think would be fun. So while while we have 131 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: confidence that the Eagles will be able to get through this, 132 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: things are a little trickier for the Ravens with Dennis Pitta. Yeah, 133 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean you have you have a situation there where 134 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: a Kwon Balden they get rid of for salary cap reasons, 135 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and but they still had Pitt as a guy. Okay, 136 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: not only did this guy develop chemistry near the end 137 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: of last season or really all season. Uh, now we 138 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: see him making that type of leaf to becoming a 139 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: star tight end of this league. Now he's gone, who 140 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: knows how long he's gone. What are the Ravens do 141 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: top one player in the NFL crack the top one 142 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: that obnoxious terrell sugs sound bit that we had it 143 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: here or he's like the white receivers always there when 144 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: you need them. And I was like, what are you 145 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: even talking about. I'd like to say, r I p 146 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: to Dan's Terrell Suggs impressions that will never be on 147 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: the show ever ever again. Uh, look Chris Wesley and 148 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: our guy who were going to call up in a 149 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: little bit. He's downstairs right now, chain through his desk 150 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: feverishly writing post. He said all offseason he expects Pitta 151 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: to lead the team in targets, maybe lead the team 152 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: in receiving yards. And I think that was a pretty 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: strong prediction because you look at him and Tory Smith 154 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: as the two guys and it's a big, big drop 155 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: off after that at wide receiver or tight end. And 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: now now you're losing that guy and pit well, and 157 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: it's Tory Smith is not a guy you're gonna throw 158 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: the ball to play up to play. He's uh, he's 159 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna kill you deep. But you need a guy like 160 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Pitto to set that up. And he and Flacco obviously 161 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: e their best friends. I'm not sure what that means 162 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: on the field, except that what they have done on 163 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the field is probably show better chemistry than anyone else 164 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: with Flacco outside of an koon Bold in that postseason run. 165 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: They're fantastic, like the report also of that Joe Flacco 166 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: was walking around despondent at Ravens Camp like Charlie Brown 167 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: with that the piano music Disconsin. I mean, Flacco to 168 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: me might be the most interesting part of this whole 169 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: story because he's getting paid like a top five quarterback. 170 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: And you know, look Ron Jaworski, who knows a lot 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: more than us about quarterbacks, he put him in his 172 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: top five. It's the type of season that you expect 173 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: that of a top five quarterback to improve guys like 174 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Jacoby Jones and Deonte Thompson and Ed Dixon and lift 175 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: those guys up into being great players, and they haven't been. 176 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: And I don't think Flacco has ever done that. I 177 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: don't think Flacco has ever gone from Game one to 178 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Game sixteen and been that top tier type of receiver. 179 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: There's too many peaks and valleys that we see with him. 180 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: They made the playoffs last year, but you know they 181 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: easily could not have and then we would be having 182 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: a very different conversation. So I want to see a 183 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Flacco can be better this year than he was last 184 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: year when he wins a Super Bowl m v P. 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: And one thing you know in Ozzie new some set 186 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: over the weekend that I think it was the King. 187 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: We just don't know exactly what our offense is gonna 188 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: look like right now. I don't. I don't rule out 189 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: number one a trade for someone recognizable. But secondly, you 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: know that team only ran two tight ends set like 191 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the time. Last year they ran to 192 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: two running backs. Like, so it's like they're just but 193 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: what what what I liked about the Ravens last year 194 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: was they got into their that three wide receiver, more 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: aggressive passing game, and they're gonna have to tell us 196 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: revert back to that run, real, real run, heavy attack 197 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: that we saw when I don't think the Ravens were 198 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: quite as you know, as damaging on defense. And I 199 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: will just say, you know, for proper sourcing, because we 200 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: do that around here. You credited Peter King, but it 201 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: was actually SI dot Com is Don Banks who spoke 202 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: with Ozzy. And thank you for going to point out 203 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: that Mark's clearly been reading his football outsiders. Well, no, 204 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: and I and because I tweeted that today and it 205 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: is from football. But it's interesting why because everyone says, Oh, 206 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: they were just gonna they're crushed because they were gonna 207 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: run two tight ends the entire time. But he didn't 208 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: do that almost at all last year. No, they're crushed 209 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: because their second best receiver on the team right now 210 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: is Jacoby Jones. I mean that's not an NFL high 211 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: quality passing attack, and so I think it's gonna be 212 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: very difficult for them. They're gonna have to rely on 213 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Ray Rice and Bernard Pierce more than ever. You know, 214 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: those are two backs that you can rely does Brandon 215 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: Lloyd's phone finally ring? This would be the perfect spot 216 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: for it. I mean to me, they have a history 217 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: of bringing in veterans, sometimes guys that haven't been you know, 218 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: perfect soldiers elsewhere. Brian McKinney is a perfect example late 219 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: in the mix and adding them to a good team. 220 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: It just seems wide receivers have a shorter rope with 221 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff when the terms, when it comes 222 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: to reputation, I mean, this guy should have a job 223 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: right and lawder he could still play. I know he 224 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: has the still not sure what it means locker room uh, 225 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: locker room lawyer type reputation. I don't know what that means. 226 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Someone please tweet at us the best definition of what 227 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: locker room lawyer means, and you can have the two 228 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: thousand and ten Marvin Lewis Cincinnati Bengal. I know it's 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: not two three. Marvin Lewis weighs about fifty pounds less, 230 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: thirty five years old. The Cincinnati Ben don't make you 231 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: look a lot older, So please let us know. Um 232 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: elsewhere in the NFL, you know, Rex, Ryan John Zack 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: came during your shift from Hell Hell on Saturday Markets. 234 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: He stated, what what it? Well, it was. The reason 235 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: it was news is because you know, my Niche Meadow, 236 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: who's followed that team very closely, tweeted that. You know, 237 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Ryan has basically said definitively over and over, I will 238 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: have the final say on the quarterback situation, which isn't 239 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: that unusual in the NFL. Right in the pain in 240 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: the past he said that he's been he's gone on 241 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: the record, but when they had asked it, Zick, we'll 242 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: hold on. What's your role in this? And he basically said, 243 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a pretty big role in deciding who 244 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: plays Week one, how this whole thing shakes out, and 245 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, well, why don't you go to that? And 246 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: then of course Rex then is asked about that the 247 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: next day on Sunday, and Rex, the older Rex would 248 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: have been defiant and would have said, this is my team, 249 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: this is my choice. This Rex is the company man 250 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: that's fearing for his life and his job, well not 251 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: his life, we hope, not his life, but his job. 252 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: And he's saying, well, it's always been that way. And 253 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: even last year, for instance, when he benched Sanchez in 254 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: favor of McElroy, he said that, uh, that was really 255 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: a group decision. I said, it was my decision because 256 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: I didn't want, you know, anybody else need to be 257 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: asked about it. Just asked me and it all seemed 258 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: very it seemed very soft, and it's it's really the 259 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: new Rex Ryan, now where God is the bluster. Now 260 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: you have this almost like a limping dog that just 261 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: needs mercy at this point. It's it's kind of sad 262 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: to watch. Dan dan Is said about it. Did you 263 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: think this Mark do you think this storyline was was overplayed? Yeah? 264 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: I do, because well here's where I think it's different 265 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: with the Jets, because you take a guy like Ryan, 266 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: who I think had incredible power and he wasn't using 267 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Tannenbaum to make on field decisions and his power has 268 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: been reduced, and a lot of a of teams though 269 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: with lesser influential, less strong head coaches. I think a 270 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: committee approach with a strong GM might play. But yeah, 271 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: I think it's starting quarterback. No, I think that. I 272 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: think that in general, Like I said before the I mean, 273 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: you're a guy like Ryan did have that power and 274 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: it's been taken away from him. See. I don't think 275 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: this is a media story. And I know there's a 276 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: history between m niche and some of the New York 277 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: UH media along with Rex Ryan and that you know 278 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna play up every little angle. But he's the 279 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: head coach of the team. Who what else is he 280 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: doing if he's not deciding who this the starting quarterback is? 281 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: What is this? Is this money ball where the GM 282 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: and the front office has say, I mean, you really 283 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick or a number of had you think 284 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's gonna say that, Kevin Colver has a saying 285 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: who's the starting quarterback? No way when you when you 286 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: have a really strong head coach like Rex. That's why 287 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: I think it is a story. It wouldn't be like 288 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, for instance. As a Browns fan, I know 289 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: that Chud will not make that decision alone. But that's 290 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: because the first year head coach, and he's got a 291 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: lot of other powerful people in the room with Ryan. 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: It's an issue. And again this all goes back to 293 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: and Greg and I were speaking about it downstairs in 294 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: the newsroom this morning. The Jets not going all in 295 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: on this rebuild. It's kind of they went kind of 296 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: halfway on it. So you have situations like this where 297 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the new GM and the old coach are clashing on 298 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: some level, or there has to be this discussion about 299 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: who's really in charge. Whereas if it Zick had his 300 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: own guy in here that he trusted and believed in, 301 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: you would get You have an idea that it would 302 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: probably be the coach saying it's my call and then 303 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: it's backing him on that. But that's not how it 304 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: is with the Jets because they have this disjointed nature 305 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: up top. Of course, the Jets and Rex are discussing everything. 306 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what you do, but there shouldn't 307 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: be any confusion over whose decision it is. And I 308 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: do think that's significant and it does show a change, 309 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: uh in New York. Well, in fairness, it's not confusion though. 310 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean Rex is saying that it's always been this way, 311 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: but the question is is that really true? And you 312 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: get the feeling that this is a little bit Rex 313 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: rewriting history to try to save some face. Why is 314 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: Santonio Home still on this team? Why is Mark Sanchez 315 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: still on this team? Why do they sign Ryan still 316 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: the coach? This is all these guys feel like they're 317 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: left over from a rebuild that started, but it won't 318 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: finish until next year. And I want to know, and 319 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I who won the arm wrestling match to bring Brayl 320 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and Edwards in here? That does not seem like an 321 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Izick move to me. That we're definitely, in my opinion, 322 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: better options than Brayl and Edwards. But that's a Rex 323 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Ryan guy. So it's like there was some you know, 324 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: he gave Rex some sort of say there on some level, 325 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: you get the middling um over the hill wide receiver 326 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: and I'll choose the quarterback. Sounds like a nice deal. 327 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Is it the best thing for the Jets for one 328 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks to completely break away from the other 329 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. So this topic goes away where 330 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: it's very clear who the starter should be. Yeah, I 331 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: mean the whole question is you want to move on 332 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: with the next era, and that's Geno Smith. But you 333 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: also don't want to set him back by forcing him 334 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: into the lineup early. But you know it's there's no 335 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: weapons on this offense, so to me, it doesn't make 336 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: sense to force Geno in. But I you start, you're starting, 337 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: are ready to see some signs that both comments by 338 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: Rex and some some people in the locker room how 339 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: much they like Geno Smith. I got a feeling that 340 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Gino is going to be the quarterback Week one. You 341 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: do feel a change in the air even from about 342 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: four or five days of practices about Geno Smith. Uh, 343 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: the reporters, the coaches, the players all seem more positive. 344 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: He hasn't thrown an interception. It's too early to say anything, 345 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: but to me, Gino Smith was always going to be 346 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: the Week one starter as long as he's not incompetent 347 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: in the off season, and so if he can be 348 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: okay and it's close to a tie, I think they 349 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: go with Gino because I think with Sanchez and and 350 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: it's easy to go to town on Sanchez. But you're 351 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: not gonna suddenly see a quarterback that blossoms into a 352 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: top ten guy. He's gonna he is who he is 353 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: to some degree in the offense hasn't changed. He's in 354 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: a new offense if anything, so he's got to catch 355 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: up to that. To some degree, they know what they 356 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: have in Sanchez. They kind of what's what's the what's 357 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: the wrong in throwing Gino Smith out there and seeing 358 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: if this guy maybe has something special. This is a 359 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: team that the preseason I thinks matter a lot. That's 360 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: very good. We're getting some early good signs on Gino. 361 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: We've been talking quarterback battles on the site all day. 362 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: It's it's very early, but any impressions from there's really 363 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: about five teams out there, uh that are battling at 364 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: quarterback that the position is pretty open. Any early impressions 365 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: on the battle so far, well, I think you know. 366 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: I I covered over the weekend the Raiders situation, which 367 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: I think is probably maybe the least sexy of the group, 368 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: just because we have no hope for the Raiders to 369 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: make a difference in the an f C West. But 370 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: for me, that feels like that's Flynn's job, basically as 371 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: always to lose, and last year he went out and 372 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: he lost it. So if he can hold off Tyler Wilson, 373 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't see Terrell prior as a factor in that one. 374 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: Wilson had a lot of buzz through mini camp and 375 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: O T A s. But that seems to be coming 376 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: a little bit now. Remind us next year not to 377 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: do It's just so hard because we because we're writing 378 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: all day. But just man, mini camps and ots don't matter. 379 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: They really don't know. It doesn't It doesn't seem that. 380 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: Are you suggesting maybe we just take a couple of 381 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: months off in the middle of this flate spring that 382 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: maybe would That wouldn't be that bad. We could do that. 383 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest ideas of other quarterback when 384 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: we haven't learned a lot early. I think cobbon Vic 385 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: is still fifty fifty manual. You know the Bill started 386 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: their camp a little late. I think, um, sorry, not 387 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: cobbin Vic, I said Nick Foles and Vic in Philadelphia 388 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: looks even. I don't think there's anything to learn other 389 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: than in Jacksonville. It's really fifty fifty. They are giving 390 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: Chad Hanny a chance. Plain Gabbert has an ankle injury, 391 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: so that could give Hanny a better chance to win 392 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: the job quickly. All right, guys, so let's we got 393 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Chris Westling downstairs. He got back from vacation today. He's 394 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: probably in a rough spot mentally, but you know, we 395 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: should call down and check in with him and see 396 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: what he's working on right now. Chris, are you're there? 397 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I am Westling one floor down. What's going on? I 398 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: am reinvigorated after mine Caro wac es throughout the Midwest 399 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: in the South of the past two weeks, and not 400 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: too angry that you're downstairs right now. We're just goofing 401 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: off upstairs here. What are you working on right now? 402 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: I have the Arizona Cardinals h Carson Palmer running a 403 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: few option plays in practice and Patrick Peterson seeing times 404 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: seeing time on offense. What is this Carson Palmer situation? 405 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Is he actually running the three option? In arnest? No, 406 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: it sounds like they just want to get him out 407 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: there as a way to get the running backs the ball. 408 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: But he's never a threat to run. So is that 409 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: really an option? What's the option? I don't think there 410 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: is an option? How is the defender gonna have to 411 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: read this running ability? And what's up with Patrick Peterson? 412 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Where where are they using him? He's been at wide 413 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: receiver and running back. He had one deep route, uh 414 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: and then a few a pitch at running back. But 415 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that we'll see him getting the ball 416 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: once a game or anything like that. This might have 417 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: to become a regular segment. You know, what is West 418 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: or whoever is stuck downstairs doing? And West the upside 419 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: for you? You could just take the sound file, put 420 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: it right below the headline and move on to your 421 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: next piece. Sweet West. You're a huge Cincinnati Bengals fan, 422 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: so you've obviously watched Palmer a lot over the years. 423 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: What what what are your hopes for him down there? 424 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: I see him as possibly the least mobile quarterback in 425 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, So I would I would, just for amusement purposes, 426 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: I would love to see him running the option. Yeah, 427 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: it's one of those trends that's like every team now 428 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: is well not every team, but most teams are involving 429 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: some sort of option. It's like kind of like the 430 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: wildcat where there's just there were too many teams that 431 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: were just kind of half passing it and just throwing 432 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: a few plays out there each game just to do it. 433 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: And it's not going to really make sense unless you 434 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: commit to it. This seems like a turnover waiting to happen. West, 435 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: Where were you exactly one week ago? Today? I was. 436 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: I was in a title back creek off a Tybee 437 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: Island having just having a blast. Are you satisfied to 438 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: be back in Los Angeles? We were a little concerned 439 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: you may never return. I am satisfied that I am 440 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: still alive and kicking after last week. I looked I 441 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: looked up at one point this morning and you could 442 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: see Chris's mind just drifting away, and he was thinking 443 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: about that lagoon and sitting on the big tube with 444 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: the girl of his dreams floating down down the river. 445 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: And now you're here in his hand. Now you were 446 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: in traffic this morning to get to the NFL news room. West. 447 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for answering the phone, and we 448 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: will see you very soon for my pleasure. Guys. Okay, 449 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: So moving forward, I got I gotta ask you know, 450 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: we have maybe a new recurring segment here. The name 451 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: is a work in work in progress. I thought Cessler 452 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: had a pretty good name for it today, the Metrics 453 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: mind Bender, Metric's mind Bender Bender, which is still which 454 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: is basically every story as you might expect for the 455 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Mega corporation there. That's not that I guess I won't 456 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: just chime in with my own one next thing. No, 457 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: that's I like, that's the wilk Tie with the difference 458 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: in quality you see between wilk Tie and black tie. 459 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: So thank you very much, did um. Yeah, But basically 460 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: we track every story and how stories. Doing it determines 461 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: how things get played up on the site. And with 462 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: a t L we we come up with so much content. 463 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: But sometimes stories that you would never think would be 464 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: huge are huge. Greg, who has a massive monitor in 465 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: front of him every day, stares at it. For numbers, Greg, 466 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: what is the Metrics Mindbender for Monday? They would have 467 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: to be Terrell prior of the Raiders saying that he 468 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: never knew how to throw until this offseason until someone 469 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: you know on the new staff taught him how to throw. See, 470 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: I would argue, and we just just it's like it's 471 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that clip people are clicking into 472 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: that particular narrative. Why is that because of a pro 473 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: quarterback who's entering, you know, years into his career, not 474 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: that he's been used heavily, saying you know, listen, much 475 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: like the three of us, I don't really know how 476 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: to throw a football up until now. And I will 477 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: say this, this this smax to me of classic early 478 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: training camp. So when Terrelle Pryor has a pastor rating 479 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: of fourteen through the preseason, was like, oh, I thought 480 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: you knew how to throw. Now, well, it's kind of 481 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: like ignore, please excuse everything you've seen. I'm a I'm 482 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: a new guy, and I was always I'm competing, competing 483 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: for the number one spot, and now I can gun 484 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: this thing, right. I like the idea of if you 485 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: watch tape from prior and nobody ever noticed that maybe 486 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: like throws like a girl left handed or something like 487 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: how do we not even notice this? And now he 488 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: throws a rifle? Uh. Prior in general, people are just 489 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: interested in him, intriguing down Uh. And this is probably 490 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: his last. I don't know how many chances he's ever 491 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: going to get to start in the NFL, but this, 492 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: this is a decent one. I kind of get doubt 493 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: he'll ever get the chance, though, Well, um, that should 494 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: do it. For another episode of The Round League Debate Club, 495 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't I think let's uh, let's wrap it up. Yeah, 496 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: we and we'll let you know. We're gonna keep you informed. 497 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: On the iTunes front, Greg as our fearless leader. It's 498 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: really on him. So the pressure is on Greg to 499 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: reach out to the proper people. The back channels will tie. 500 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: It's up to him. M I A. But when we 501 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: get on there, you'll be the first to know. And 502 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: if you're the first subscriber, you're gonna have a lot 503 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: of you know, subpard gifts coming your way until Wednesday,